Yeah that's always what i've noticed as well. Unlike most HoN or LoL players I actually do play both. I play HoN way more but still I play both. And I have seen no HoN fans ripping on LoL vids at all. But they seem to be all over the place on every HoN vid out there.
@Sinari123 Again. The Drink is just a heal and buff to his attacks. He still uses mana, regens mana, and his skills cost mana. Drink is so you can focus on mana items and laning rather than constantly having to heal.
I love lol and hon at the same time and play both. Anyone jelly because i spend my time with actually playing these games not arguing about stupid things?
@Username636 Having read through the patch notes I don't think it'll be a problem. It'll just be impossible for new competitive players from dota to come to HoN seeing as they won't have access to every hero. The early hero access thing is bad but considering pro players don't try out new heroes for a while anyway I don't think having to wait a month to play with them will be a huge problem
@Wathisidonteven The two may both be mechs and have similar ults but they in no way play the same. Rumble is a close range caster/bruiser whose meant to get up close and in the enemies face. Youll get your face stomped if you try that with chipper.
@Balmung1991 Well Pudding (who is the voice in the video) does hero spotlights and will most likely be doing spotlights for LoL heroes now with Riot. Nome is a commetator/caster/community member that is now with Riot and LoL as well. Enjoy them, HoN misses them.
@GreatWolfGrimnar Actually its not the ulti. Every single spell is the same. The reason you'lç get face stomped with chipper is due to the differences from the games, not the hero himself. Hon is burstier and more based on position than lol.
@Wathisidonteven His harpoon is NOTHING like Chippers rockets, the barely do any damage, the slow is only good if you hit with both of them, and the range is a fraction of what chipper can shoot. His shield has a very short duration and is used more so for the movespeed component. The ultimates of both characters are the only gameplay similarities they have.
I love how the heroes coming out are now more able to combo their abilities than before. I love it when skills synergies for great combos. ps: this is going to be one tanky mofo...
@GreatWolfGrimnar Just re-checked , and its 3 out of 4. He Electro-Harpoon wich is similiar to rockets, Scrap Shield: wich is similar to magic buffer, and the ultimate is exactly the same, specially since its vector targetting aswell.
@Chaos1479 The Blacksmith Avatar is used to hide new heroes, look at all the older spotlights, you'll see it. So the hero in this video will probably be released in 2 weeks or a month. Notice the Aura around it, its not a hero we already have.
@Wathisidonteven You cannot be serious. Every single spell? Chipper has long range missiles, ranged auto attack, and his tar slow. Rumble has a close range flamethrower, a medium range single target slow, and an auto attack steroid as a passive coupled with a diff resource system. Where are you getting "Every single spell is the same"?
How are they not different, I mean his Q ability much resembles Gragas' ultimate, launching and potentially stunning targets. Stagger resembles body slam, a short-cooldown and decently low mana cost movement ability, only difference is that you can go through terrain with body slam, but hey, you have to change something. Drink is exactly the same as Gragas' W (the name escapes me). Gragas' ultimate and Drunken Master's ultimate resemble eachother, Gragas can push away his enemies for escape.
@Nondo played hon since the closed beta, but tried lol and found it more balanced and funny to be able to carry as most of the int heroes in endgame. But my point was, where do you think S2 got the idea from? You cant deny that they are very similar, both model (kinda) and the whole charge thing and passive ^^
@FanaticPhyso or wait a month for early access heroes to come out..30 bucks will get you access to every hero that's out and all the ones that will come out later + updates and all. not too bad a deal actually.
@MrSHURIKENCHO What the hell are you talking about :P? The only similarity is Gragas drinks beer and singed throws people behind them, and they are not the first heroes to use that.
actually, those exist on lol videos every once in a while. especially on champion spotlights. for example on wukongs spotlight, even though those are completely coencidental.
@Username636 I'd be disappointed if it would happen, but I don't think it'd affect me too greatly as I am not at that level in HoN. I'm just glad I have decent people to play with but for solo players it'll be hell. While I probably will be getting DotA 2, we'll have to see how good it is before we can really judge what's going to happen to HoN. I think HoN still has the competitive scene going for them, which far exceeds LoL's "competitive scene", if they even have one.
@Cranksson 1. try the tabulator or bind his pet with CTRL+(Number 1-9) 2. Hm ... disable "exclusive mode" in the graphic options. or ask the HoN forums 4 help ^^
1. How do i swap fast between Tremble and his pet? 2. i have my HoN at fullscreen when i minimize it i cant maximize it again, i must right click on it then and then turn it off and on again.. please help!
@Username636 A bigger player base does not mean a bigger competitive scene. LoL only really has 1 or 2 teams that compete well enough in their competitive scene where as there are many professional teams in HoN, and tournaments are held far more frequently. LoL gets more funds since they are a bigger company and have more players which is why people want to sponsor them as it is a big game. However, HoN's competitive scene > LoL's
@TheLivirus The Blacksmith's random number generation ult is sometimes seen as total bullshit (and it kinda is, yeah) - sometimes you get multiple 4x nukes in a single fight and win it almost single handedly, etc... "Too bad! It's me, Blacksmith!" became a bit of a meme, I think it's a shirt you can buy, even. And yeah, so that's the joke. You can't see the new hero... too bad, it's me.
@magyarock1 well if thats your argument, brand is also stolen from plague rider, jarvan is stolen from gladiator, garen is stolen from swiftblade and legionnaire etc, hon had all those champs before so try to think before arguing kthxbye
@isjet actually he is really weak at early - mid game and only gets strong after getting low armor items or damage items and gets pounded for his low mana
Hehe, there is quite a bit of auto attacking. But it's about getting within punching range that's tricky. And most characters have fun moves that help with that. And contrary to popular belief, BKB doesn't last forever.
@SmallvilleRufus u relize gragus is a mage and saying these to are alike even tho these 2 have no similar spells is like saying everyone in the world who drinks is the same. yes i just went literal
@TheLivirus I think it is something about "Too bad! It's me blacksmith" and then you show the icon then you lol then you drink beer then your happy and have kids.
I'm not at all complaining about FTP. I've been playing HoN since the Beta started. Just because it's FTP doesn't mean that us veterans have to play with all the noobs that are joining the game for the first time or that are switching from LoL if any. We can choose to play normally like we have or join the lower ranks and play with them. I say the more people the more competition=more fun.
Rewatching this in 2019 for nostalgic purpose :p
Bruh I miss this game so fucking much. I miss playing PM, Fayde, Shadow Blade Chronos and scout 🥺🥺🥺🥺
2020 anyone. I miss this game too.
Same...
@@mikoangelo5957 2021 still playing :D
2024 man
Its funny how Drunkin Master looks so much Bigger than Gauntlets
I remember this Hero was broken AF , SB lvl 3 + bulwark at 15min . And you 1 shot every Hero.
Yeah that's always what i've noticed as well. Unlike most HoN or LoL players I actually do play both. I play HoN way more but still I play both. And I have seen no HoN fans ripping on LoL vids at all. But they seem to be all over the place on every HoN vid out there.
its always the scout who gets experimented on in these video :
Lunge skill is awesome, specifically the ability to launch enemy in any direction
@Sinari123 Again. The Drink is just a heal and buff to his attacks. He still uses mana, regens mana, and his skills cost mana. Drink is so you can focus on mana items and laning rather than constantly having to heal.
ahhhh the good ol days with good spotlights and double new heroes each time they release one.
How come Scout is the target in every video? Poor Scout :(
@TheLivirus no, its a new hero that they will show so they don't want you to know what that hero is before hero spotlight
I love lol and hon at the same time and play both. Anyone jelly because i spend my time with actually playing these games not arguing about stupid things?
@Username636 Having read through the patch notes I don't think it'll be a problem. It'll just be impossible for new competitive players from dota to come to HoN seeing as they won't have access to every hero. The early hero access thing is bad but considering pro players don't try out new heroes for a while anyway I don't think having to wait a month to play with them will be a huge problem
Being drunk and playing this hero- mind blown.
the giggle at 5:12 when he pours his shit on the dude. epic
2 new heroes...
2 new skins...
a new anouncer...
men... this will be an EPIC friday!!!
@Wathisidonteven The two may both be mechs and have similar ults but they in no way play the same. Rumble is a close range caster/bruiser whose meant to get up close and in the enemies face. Youll get your face stomped if you try that with chipper.
@Balmung1991 Well Pudding (who is the voice in the video) does hero spotlights and will most likely be doing spotlights for LoL heroes now with Riot. Nome is a commetator/caster/community member that is now with Riot and LoL as well. Enjoy them, HoN misses them.
@GreatWolfGrimnar Actually its not the ulti. Every single spell is the same. The reason you'lç get face stomped with chipper is due to the differences from the games, not the hero himself. Hon is burstier and more based on position than lol.
@Wathisidonteven His harpoon is NOTHING like Chippers rockets, the barely do any damage, the slow is only good if you hit with both of them, and the range is a fraction of what chipper can shoot. His shield has a very short duration and is used more so for the movespeed component. The ultimates of both characters are the only gameplay similarities they have.
I love how the heroes coming out are now more able to combo their abilities than before. I love it when skills synergies for great combos. ps: this is going to be one tanky mofo...
@GreatWolfGrimnar Just re-checked , and its 3 out of 4. He Electro-Harpoon wich is similiar to rockets, Scrap Shield: wich is similar to magic buffer, and the ultimate is exactly the same, specially since its vector targetting aswell.
Looks like a fun hero to make a high level gameplay of :)
@Mineeero Don't think that's an alt avatar, it's a custom skin made by a community member. Could be wrong though.
Does anyone else notice whenever blacksmith is in the video it never shows him, it just shows an icon of him on the screen?
@Chaos1479 The Blacksmith Avatar is used to hide new heroes, look at all the older spotlights, you'll see it. So the hero in this video will probably be released in 2 weeks or a month. Notice the Aura around it, its not a hero we already have.
@Wathisidonteven You cannot be serious. Every single spell? Chipper has long range missiles, ranged auto attack, and his tar slow. Rumble has a close range flamethrower, a medium range single target slow, and an auto attack steroid as a passive coupled with a diff resource system. Where are you getting "Every single spell is the same"?
hero spotlight made best titles
Drunken Master... Big keg of alcohol...
Engineer just got a new best friend!
@Chaos1479 Wrong. They use the blacksmith icon to cover up unreleased heroes or alternative avatars.
@eliteslayerpjf That's just part of the skill. It also improves his other abilities and that's the highlight of the skill.
@NufSC OP would be immune to ALL magic dmg, luckily it's only immune against single-target spells so it isn't quite "op" as you described.
How are they not different, I mean his Q ability much resembles Gragas' ultimate, launching and potentially stunning targets. Stagger resembles body slam, a short-cooldown and decently low mana cost movement ability, only difference is that you can go through terrain with body slam, but hey, you have to change something.
Drink is exactly the same as Gragas' W (the name escapes me). Gragas' ultimate and Drunken Master's ultimate resemble eachother, Gragas can push away his enemies for escape.
Goodbye, DM.
4:05 that is the cutest pronunciation of any word i have ever heard!
WoW...those spotlights are so awesome! I play LoL but HoN's spotlights are just epic!
love how they always show new heroes on scout :)
@Nondo played hon since the closed beta, but tried lol and found it more balanced and funny to be able to carry as most of the int heroes in endgame. But my point was, where do you think S2 got the idea from? You cant deny that they are very similar, both model (kinda) and the whole charge thing and passive ^^
Guess they were drunk when they made this. Fitting.
He's got the moves like Stagger
@FanaticPhyso or wait a month for early access heroes to come out..30 bucks will get you access to every hero that's out and all the ones that will come out later + updates and all. not too bad a deal actually.
hey hon have you ever heard of brewmaster? he is in a game called dota that came out a long time ago
@Animayshun The first video was taken down. So many have already seen it.
Its a shame how well constructed this spotlight is to the newer ones. Hon wasn't dead at F2P, it is dead now. Farewell my beloved
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Both of the models look awesome. Good job
@TheLivirus Yes but he's also used to cover up new heroes that have not been released yet.
@MrSHURIKENCHO What the hell are you talking about :P? The only similarity is Gragas drinks beer and singed throws people behind them, and they are not the first heroes to use that.
actually, those exist on lol videos every once in a while. especially on champion spotlights. for example on wukongs spotlight, even though those are completely coencidental.
You can go look at 'Moonmeander pro drunken', I think that's the name. Look at his build and play style.
at about 2:00 is that the corpse of a new alt avatar in the bottom left corner?
@ffarkasm Was the talking Panda not crossing the line for you?
@cannonbolt3 Whos sona and gragas? Please tell me, and give me the exact reason why they're EXACTLY the same?
When I saw this In the sub box I couldn't believe it
Alt polly still looks more drunk when he walks.
@Rogno666 The new item that lowers or raises armor by 5 to enemies/allies, necessary for the daemonic now.
What's up with that enormous Blacksmith icon kind of thingy? Internal joke?
Does anybody play this game anymore? I like dota 2 but I wanted to try this out as well.
Yeah still lots of people on this game ;p
Try it its fun :D
@Username636 I'd be disappointed if it would happen, but I don't think it'd affect me too greatly as I am not at that level in HoN. I'm just glad I have decent people to play with but for solo players it'll be hell. While I probably will be getting DotA 2, we'll have to see how good it is before we can really judge what's going to happen to HoN. I think HoN still has the competitive scene going for them, which far exceeds LoL's "competitive scene", if they even have one.
Oh god that alt avatar was amazing.
notice how in every hero spotlight scout dies
MsPudding left S2 and come work for LoL, who would narrate the hero spotlight video in the future?!!!
@ThePraetorFenix are you kidding? that's gauntlet....
@Cranksson
1. try the tabulator or bind his pet with CTRL+(Number 1-9)
2. Hm ... disable "exclusive mode" in the graphic options.
or ask the HoN forums 4 help ^^
@WoWfosho22 gragas isnt a mage, hes a drunken barrel throwing tank
1. How do i swap fast between Tremble and his pet?
2. i have my HoN at fullscreen when i minimize it i cant maximize it again, i must right click on it then and then turn it off and on again.. please help!
the keg on his back ExPLODES XD
I think the hero is awesome, the play style looks very unique but I don't know how well his mana regen is going to effect his early game.
@Username636 A bigger player base does not mean a bigger competitive scene. LoL only really has 1 or 2 teams that compete well enough in their competitive scene where as there are many professional teams in HoN, and tournaments are held far more frequently. LoL gets more funds since they are a bigger company and have more players which is why people want to sponsor them as it is a big game. However, HoN's competitive scene > LoL's
Not sure who came out first, but him and Gragas are really similar.
Man, S2 are so much better at spotlight videos than Riot games.
@TheLivirus The Blacksmith's random number generation ult is sometimes seen as total bullshit (and it kinda is, yeah) - sometimes you get multiple 4x nukes in a single fight and win it almost single handedly, etc... "Too bad! It's me, Blacksmith!" became a bit of a meme, I think it's a shirt you can buy, even.
And yeah, so that's the joke. You can't see the new hero... too bad, it's me.
I know they're nothing alike, but I like Gragas more. Gragas just holds a special place in my heart, even if he does kinda suck.
@magyarock1 well if thats your argument, brand is also stolen from plague rider, jarvan is stolen from gladiator, garen is stolen from swiftblade and legionnaire etc, hon had all those champs before so try to think before arguing kthxbye
@isjet actually he is really weak at early - mid game and only gets strong after getting low armor items or damage items and gets pounded for his low mana
The other new hero that is coming soon has a really big aura
New hero with freakish red aura.
@sheepkilier the common factor is that they both drink, nothing more
Oh hey, wasn't this hero on DREAM? Or was it on the forums?
Either way, nice to see community suggested heroes being made!
Hehe, there is quite a bit of auto attacking. But it's about getting within punching range that's tricky. And most characters have fun moves that help with that. And contrary to popular belief, BKB doesn't last forever.
@SmallvilleRufus u relize gragus is a mage and saying these to are alike even tho these 2 have no similar spells is like saying everyone in the world who drinks is the same. yes i just went literal
Oh Gragas, what they have done to you?
@PuppiloveBunni don't know where you get all this, my point is HoN is not before LoL.
I wish Stagger had more quake animation like a wave or somethin.
hands down s2games make the best hero spotlights
@makondoo This hero was inspired from the movie of Jackie Chan, and every skill of this hero is original. No skill copied from dota.
@SardonicFox1994 wrong, MK has been in design way longer before wukong =)
@demislasher A nullstone type effect would not block autoattacks.
4:32 wonder who that hero is... probably still a work in progress
@Munje777 what are u talking about? could u also tell us WHY?
Loving the Chinese themed heroes.
Q:what's the difference between a drunken master and a blind monk?
A:ones played more.
I'm here to kick butt! And drink Graggy...looks like I'm all out of Graggy.
@Moonflush There must be a forum thread about it.
@TheLivirus I think it is something about "Too bad! It's me blacksmith" and then you show the icon then you lol then you drink beer then your happy and have kids.
I'm not at all complaining about FTP. I've been playing HoN since the Beta started. Just because it's FTP doesn't mean that us veterans have to play with all the noobs that are joining the game for the first time or that are switching from LoL if any. We can choose to play normally like we have or join the lower ranks and play with them. I say the more people the more competition=more fun.
What a great video... almost.. untachable...
Seems like they want to focus the meta game more on melee heroes/carries with agile skills
Snuggle sound like a really cool move. Would be better than Urgot's Ult in LoL, but funny. Sounds like a much better tank than Gragas.
4:36
Pre-rework rhapsody or an entirely new hero?
@FULLFLAVORRRR Are they Commentators? don't know them to be honest (Since I play LoL)