Horgan, Williams & Kearney on Antoine Dupont
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- "𝐇𝐞 𝐢𝐬 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐫𝐞𝐚𝐭𝐞𝐬𝐭 𝐞𝐯𝐞𝐫 𝐭𝐨 𝐩𝐥𝐚𝐲 𝐭𝐡𝐞 𝐠𝐚𝐦𝐞."
Shane Horgan, Matt Williams & Rob Kearney on the phenomenal Antoine Dupont.
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I’ve been watching rugby a long time and I can comfortably say I’ve never ever seen a player like Antoine Dupont. I’m English I’ll add.
Then you haven't watched Fourie Dupreez.
@ I have and it’s Dupont. Besides Joost is S.A.’s best scrum half not Fourie. You South Africans are weird - why do you get butt hurt over praise of other players? Weird.
How old are you man? 21? 😂
@@adc5897 Let me guess, another South African?
G’day mate. No worries mate, it’s not your fault if you’re English 😂 From a French-Aussie
Whether he's the best or not, we don't care. History will tell. Now only the hypocrites and haters can't admit that they enjoy watching him play. Because his game is a treat for any fan of this sport
Beyond that, this guy is modest, simple and adorable in life.
"Whether he´s the best or not".
No !! He is the best. Period.
I beg to differ on the Messi comparison at the beggining: if Messi could defend he could claim to be the Dupont of football, not the other way around 😊
Nice one :) I agree and wish to add: let's in fact make rugby the new paradigm to refer to for once, not football!
It is our privilege to see a talent of this caliber play. Each generation in each sport has a few but, wow, this guy is special…
Ho wow ! Hearing those last few words from Rob Kearney about Dupont is incredible and means how much Dupont is respected even by the greatest !
Rob kearney you consider the greatest? hahahaha, the actual greatest would probably laugh at that comment too
He is the GREATEST!!!! From Ireland 🇮🇪
I don't even care about analysing if he is this or that. Just enjoy the present. He brings me so much joy even in losses. He just gives so much to the game. Audacity, commitment, creativity, supports the talents of others etc.
This. Let’s just enjoy him while he’s around. A special special player.
It's good to hear it from other people then french
Thank you
Actually there is no such debate in France. That's a topic about entirely discussed outside France. Moreover while they are obsessed with Dupont in France we make real deep analyses. At the last 6 N that's not only Dupont who was missing but at least 7 key players. The whole team was completely disorganised and couldn't play in sync. Of course Dupont is the masterpiece of the team but the team didn't perform well solely because he wasn't playing.
His influence on the game alone is enough to show he is the best!...Capetown
NIce to hear guys! Hope he will play forever and make us win the world cup! Greetings from France!!
100 % d'accord, il ne lui manque que la coupe du monde : la France est tellement en attente de cette victoire, s'il réussit ce challenge avec l''équipe, il sera définitivement une légende au delà du rugby en France
Je vois beaucoup de commentaires ou les gens compare Dupont a d'autres légendes, alors je ne sais pas s'il est le meilleur mais franchement il est incroyablement talentueux alors certains diront qu'il na pas gagner de coupe du monde mais il est champion olympique a 7 , les autres le sont ils, je ne crois pas et sa carrière n'est pas terminé,plus impressionnant encore c'est ça marge de progression, j'ai l'impression qu'il en a encore sous le talon, bref il n'est peux être pas le meilleur du monde et perso je m'en fous mais une chose est certaine il est chez nous a Toulouse et je peux vous dire qu'on en est ravi
Yes you are right, he makes his team mates play better, but also he makes his opponents play better too.
He is just brilliant to watch,
He is the best (from a Saffa)
hé hé, you're the lonely saffa who say that ... thanks mate
🤝 right now he is
I have seen better growing up in the SH
Definitely not the greatest ever. Ridiculous statement. He is not even the best French player ever.
@@nic0072why not and who is (was) Better?
Tout mon respect est mon affection pour ceux qui apprécie le talent immense et la force de la nature que représente Monsieur Antoine Dupont .
Well, the fact is: this guy is an octopus.
He can use both legs the same way since he is ambidextrous.
So I believe he has a very special brain with some interesting wiring inside which makes him very special.
Fun fact: His teammates call him "The Martian".
Pas exactement, celà fait déjà plus de 10 ans qu'on l'appelle en équipe de France et à Toulouse le "ministre de l'intérieur" Celà dit son influence sur le jeu...
@JollyMixer-c2i Yup, this is the official one of course. But I just saw Penaud calling him the Martian in a recent video. That was funny.
I‘m a SAFFA and I think he’s the best ever. One also needs to consider rugby is different game to the days of Gerber, Edwards, etc. Hence, it’s not possible to make a totally direct comparison. However, I still think DuPont is the best. He appears almost autistically good at what he does.
France should be unstoppable this 6N - and I expect a GS.
Stating this you can't be saffa. Put down the mask !! 😀
You are definitely not a saffer or else you haven't watched many rugby games of either the Boks or the All Blacks over the years.
Quoiqu on se le raconte le Dupont en à rien à secouer de ce qui se raconte sur lui ....mais sur un terrain c est toujours lui qu' on regarde en se demandant quelqu il vas nous inventer encore......et si carter dit qu' il est incroyable....l Antoine...!,! C est qu' il doit être incroyable!!
Maintenant que les autres démontre le contraire......moi ça me fait marrer ces polémiques.....😂😊
He is the best right now. Not "ever" or "of all times". I am just glad I can see him playing. The GOAT thing is a journalistic bullsh...
He is not even the rugby player of the year...
@nic, and what? What he did at 7s is insane. It's a very demanding sport, always running, always sprinting. His adaptation was very remarkable. For me h is the man of the year.
@@nicolasmaligner8753 7's is nothing special, many test players before dupont played 7's (Kolbe also did). Imagine if you give players like Kolbe or Arendse a full season in 7's, they will run riot.
@@nic0072 typical South African getting butthurt at praise being levied at other players who aren’t from the SH.
@@NDRAAA20 Why, we are used to some of the greatest players in the world and have been for over a 100 years. We don't readily praise a very good player as "the best ever". The guy has not even competed in SA or NZ in tough series (actually I think he came up as a reserve when he started off his career in one test in SA). He needs to be a world beater in series against the Boks in SA and NZ in NZ to get the ultimate respect of saffers and nz'ers. This respect has to be earned against the toughest opposition in the world AWAY FROM FRANCE. In his last game against SA in France he faded badly when the going got tough and in his last test against NZ, the NZ rookie scrumhalf outplayed him.
I agree, the best world rugby player ever !
lol
He is a beast
I don t care about this nonsensical goat conversations, ludicrous for the game of rugby imo*.
But it s true that being scrum half and so good in the game of rugby … makes it really special to watch bc he has so much more ball in hand.
* for him and Romain, Carter will always be the best and the one they looked up to
For me he will inspire Rugby like Carter, O'Driscoll, Wilkinson, Nonu, Barret all those amazing players
When we talk about the greatest ever, Danie Gerber was individually the most complete rugby player in history. This is coming from a Kiwi.
Thank a lot , every generation have a pearl, we have one. The last one in England , Jonny Wilkinson. Wait and see , the career is not over. I hope that he bring to you pleasure in the field in the game.Greeting from France.
A certain Cam Roigard would dispute this.... he had the better of him when they played last test match, only when he was subbed did Du pont start to shine
The best compliments you can get are those from your opponents
Starting to think the same
The Maradona of rugby - Danie Gerber from Despatch.
GERBER who ?
I think he could improve by hiding a bit during some phases, saving some energy, playing more classically, letting the 10 take over, and choosing better his breaks, so the defense gets more stress.
Certainly the best player currently playing but greatest ever will be decided in a few more years I think. Pretty hard to go past DC's stats right now.
Other players are humans playing rugby.
Antoine Dupont is rugby's human.
No matter what many butthurt Saffas will say, he’s the goat
Look, I know we can be too much hey, but look at it from our perspective. We dominating everything, winning absolutely everything, beating everyone, then we must hear that DuPont is the GOAT, especially where he could have proved it against us, and didn’t???
@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 that is, of course
No. And I'm not a Saffa.
@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 No he didn't and so what ?
@@nkosinathimazibuko2561 you think you are dominating the world of rugby, really ? you are just arrogant !
Has he played in a World Cup semi-final? He is definitely one great players in this generation, a world cup would cement that.
This is fair. The mythical goat status is subjective, but add the accolades and it would all but cement his eminence.
Yes in seven and he win it, also win the gold medal basically by himself , winning against a team who never lost in olympics 2 try , 1 decisive pass.
Was Messi good before he won the wc? Or did he need the wc to get recognition?
@@alba-k Pff it certainly helped the “goat” claim. As unfair as I think it is in team sports, being the best in your field in the eyes of the masses to some degree requires the trophies to match - as an example Michael Jordan would not be who he is without the 6 NBA rings, Tom Brady the 7 super bowls etc etc.
I think he is almost now up there with Gareth Edwards, once voted the best player of all time (he might still officially hold that accolade). For me, there are a couple of skills that Edwards regularly showed which I've not seen from Dupont, but maybe he does them and I have simply missed them. The first is the drop goal from a ruck/maul/scrum or on the run, and the second, possibly more difficult, is the reverse pass. I'm not talking about the one handed fling out of the back of the hand that the 2nd choice French scrum half did last year. I'm talking about a two handed pass back across your body when moving the other way. It is a rare and brilliant skill which draws gasps from the crowd.
Here we go again. The Saffers are flooding the comment section with their Danie Gerber nonsense.
That was a Kiwi, not a Saffer boet.
He's by far the best scrum-half in the world right now. As for best player, that's debatable. Half-backs have more of the ball, and tend to have good skills, but are they more important than tight-head props or blind-side flankers?
Greatest primadonna ever.
This discussion cannot be had until he’s won a RWC.
I'm from Argentina, and the Maradona of rugby was Danie Gerber. Simply untouchable.
Did he play against the great nation ? It played during apartheid ? I'm not sure
@ Played against all the "great" nations unfortunately not as many tests because of the sporting boycott. He played in that iconic tour of NZ in 1981 and also in SA's 1st game after the boycott against NZ when he promptly score d 2 tries. Best player I have seen on a rugby pitch and I'm 60 years old.
Gerber was the greatest centre I have seen in 70+ yrs, but he played in a different era when the laws were very different. DuPont is the greatest 9 I have seen, and that includes Vde W, as well as the otherwise incomparable Gareth Edwards.
@@johnelliott3510 Hasn't proved anything against SA yet. Would like to see him being special when touring SA (or in NZ for that matter). Only if he does something very special in the southern hemisphere, I will rate him as a great player. Until then, I've seen better...
@@nic0072did gerber proved anything against great rugby nations or won a world cup??
I don't think I've ever seen him in NZ, but the answer is, no he's not.
You can't can yourself the greatest of all time, if you haven't played the Springboks or the All Blacks in their own backyard. If you all claim this to be true, ask him to come and play the best, and don't be scared of losing. France only plays their best team in the Six Nations. Incoming tours to the Southern Hemisphere, beside Japan 😂, they will forget about bringing Dupont. These guys don't have a clue about what they talking about. I'm a proud Springbok supporter.
I backed last night get match of the match why result still not in his first half performance was world class
Best 9 ever for sure, but i wouldn't put his skillset above Dan Carter. Every time I've seen Dupont have an amazing game, it's always against weaker teams. If he wins a World Cup or at least shows up like he does against weaker nations when playing NZ and SA, who are better, defensive teams. Then he can be the goat
lol then you've not watched DuPont enough.
Just watch his game against NZ in 2017 playing for one of the worst French teams of the professional era, watch his greatness and learn
on prononce DU PON !! not DUPON...T. YOU FORGOT THE "T".
How does his stats look playing tests in the Southern Hemisphere? Or do you think a end of the year test in France is the same as playing at Ellis park...Loftus...Eden park??
Si l'on veut une comparaison honnête, il faut regarder aussi le nombre total de matches joués par un joueur en une saison. En France, le Top 14 c'est 26 matches + 2 ou 3 de phases finales. Il y a aussi les Coupes d'Europe avec a minima 4 matches + phases finales; et enfin les matches en Equipe Nationale (T6N, Autumn Series en Europe (5 et 3 matches) + Summer Series dans le Sud (3 matches)).
Les phases finales du Top 14 se jouent quasiment en même temps que la tournée d'été dans l'Hémisphère Sud et le Stade Toulousain y est très souvent présent.
I had the privilege to watch Danie Gerber play live and can confirm he was the greatest rugby player in history. Nobody comes near him.
Then maybe you should see Dupont play live too?
Gerber :? 19 tries in international tests. Sella : 30 , so stop talking about your local heroes from SA.
⏩⏩⏩Are we talking about football or rugby ? Because, sometimes (and sometimes only) in football, yeah, one player can make the whole difference, finding solutions, inspiring others... But, I'm no expert, it seems to me rugby's mecanics rely more on the collective (and whatever people say, it goes mainly the same way for football). And as exceptional as Dupont is, it seems very reductive to resume French teams to Dupont alone whether playing sevens or union. The more accurate explanation to me is that both French teams are excellent at the moment due to a deep program in French rugby these past years and on top of that, you have Dupont. I know people love providential men, it gives easy and simplistic explanations or solutions for everything. But the real world is just a bit more complex and subtle.
Future IRB hall of famer...
Has Dupont won a 15s international in the Southern hemisphere yet?
Wonder if you'd consider McCaw the goat if he never won an international in the north.
Ahahah l'ami. Je suis français mais faire une espèce de comparaison hors de propos sur McCaw pour Dupont fallait le faire. On ne compare pas les gens, les joueurs, français ou anglo-saxon, tout le monde sait reconnaître un extraterrestre est il s'appelle Dupont : 50-22 distribués à la louche, passes justes, perforation quasi systématique et gain de terrain constant, défense-plaquages de haut niveau, c'est un petit gabarit mais hyper tonique, le mec stoppe le 6 nations pour les jeux qu'il gagne, quand il n'est pas là ce n'est plus la même équipe, avec Toulouse il marche sur les équipes anglaises notamment, le mec est adorable, très respectueux, calme, hyper bien élevé par ses parents, il a même parlé des gays (qu'il défend) dans le rugby et vous me comparez çà à McCaw pour le rugby (malgré tout son talent passé, avez-vous déjà vu des rucks propres avec ce gars ?)...it's a joke 🤣
Yes. With his club against the Sharks.
mc Caw has never been considered as the goat outside nz. Dan Carter or Lomu probably yes. But Dupont is something else. I amwatching rugby for 60 years now....never saw somebody like him
@@jeanhauter7812 Facts
Haha Kearney is definitely jealous of the ABs. I was at the same academy as DuPont in Auch Gers and I would say he’s the greatest back of all time but you can compare him to forwards.
Really ? Weird you write DuPont like Saffas do and not Dupont 😂
Not sure he is the best ever, but probably the best French ever, yes, without a doubt… he is top 10 best ever with Carter, Wilkinson, McCaw, Campese, Ferrell, Sexton, Lynagh, Pienaar
That's really lazy reasoning. At the last 6 N that's not only Dupont who was missing but at least 7 key players. The whole team was completely disorganised and couldn't play in sync.
Oh and south africa
Carter, McCaw…from 🇿🇦
@@Santiago007-l5o achievements = Mccaw. Pure ability + influence on a team = DuPont.
@@peterhunter6040 McCaw’s ability on the breakdown and all round game was superb. You must not have watched what he did for the Crusaders also.
Influence on a team is not even close, Won over 100 tests as a captain and first to captain a team to back-to-back RWCs 🤷🏾♂️
@@Santiago007-l5o breakdown and tackling yes, although was a pretty average ball carrier. I agree, influence is not even close. All blacks would’ve won back to back world cups with or without Mccaw…. While France are an absolutely dog 💩 team barely capable of beating Italy without DuPont.
@@peterhunter6040you’ve literally just showed everyone that you have absolutely zero ball knowledge! Just because you don’t understand mccaws leadership or how he lead the team to back to back world cups then you aren’t even worth the breath! The recency bias is real these days! With out McCaw there NZ wouldn’t do it! Remember he one over a hundred games as captain!
@@kurupt7154 oh yeah, you were on the pitch with him were you? You were in the locker room and team huddles were you? Without Mccaw… literally nothing would change. The all blacks from 2011-2017 was the greatest team ever bar none, and not because of a single player.
Can only be the greatest ever if he goes on and win a series in new zealand
Or a world cup
@@zulfikalawie4479 that’s an interesting criteria. I would have thought a World Cup would be more meaningful. Based on Pure ability and influence on a team DuPont is the greatest ever, based on pure achievements Mccaw is the greatest ever.
@@peterhunter6040 Well, apparently, for some people, winning 2 out of 3 matchs in NZ is a bigger achievement than winning a world cup...
@@jadenphilander8799 rugby board will NEVER let the french win a world cup. Very good referees to do the dirty job.
Easy one... As you know it will never happen due to French Rugby org ...
What about Paul ‘The Judge’ Rendall?
He is the best. Gregan/Joost equal 2nd. Smith/Pichot 3rd.
Gregan, Boost were better than Du Pont.
ça énerve les sudaff...😅
ils sont tellement rageux à chaque fois que quelqu'un complimente Dupont lmao
We shall see at the next world cup if he still is the best player in the world 😂😂😂😂
I mâke à Dream' , I want à french président like dupont
Always move me to hear about Lomu, great player. Hope he is with all his friends and adversaries talking rugby
Hier on a vu cela contre les Anglais.Avec Wilkinson c'était autre chose.
Why are we having this stupid convo all over again when he's barely two seconds into his career. Also, you can't compare a good player from this era to the best player from 20 years ago or 20 years before that. This is lame.
8 year of professional rugby = 2 seconds into his career? 🤔
Most complete player ever was Gerber.
I think you guys are smoking something really strong
Silly comment. Let's wait until he finishes his career.
Danie Gerber was miles better from a Kiwi.
I’d take Dan Carter over him all day long
I'm from NZ and I would definitely not.
Matey ya dreaming he’s a baby still growing lets see how he grows in 4-5 yrs bit early days to give him the “GOAT” Richie McCaw n Dan Carter come to mind even Aron Smith some Welsh French South African lads all put in a lot of miles of Consistently great games before getting that tag - they are still yet to tour New Zealand and Australia and WIN a RWC before even getting that close to being a GOAT
Je n'ai pas tout compris ( sorry Im french) mais je vois que le rugby de 2023-25 n'a plus rien à voir avec le rugby d'hier et avec l'évolution et la rapidité de maintenant on a un Antoine Dupont ...et bienvenue à de nouveaux prodiges demain
Gerber the GOAT. End of debate.
Gareth EDWARDS, Antoine DUPONT, Johnny WILKINSON, Brian O,'DRISCOLL, Dan CARTER.
No SOUTH AFRICAN.
End of debate.
@@BreezymymanBreezymyman Are you a member of his family ?
@@thierrythomas6814Another Springboks hater, you are all jealous of the Boks.
The greatest of all time is DANIE GERBER.
How?
Who ?
Gareth Edwards is the greatest. Full stop.
The greatest ever 😂 the guy has won the 6 nations once ? And the RWC zero times. How insulting to players like McCaw and Carter
Exactly, coming from a Springboks supporter. There are only 2 rugby nations. South Africa and New Zealand.
Where has this Gerber nonsense come from? He was never in the debate... until some coordinated internet campaign from Sth Africa started ca 2023. Why is he not renowned internationally? Why would that be? Hmmmmm.
@@thatdudepierce5387 Maybe you just lived under a rock. Ask any kiwi legend from the 80s and 90s who the greatest center of all time is. Most will say Gerber.
You are probably living on the Du Pont Island. You are ignorant and probably hate everything that is South African, more specifically, an Afrikaner😂
"coordinated internet campaign from Sth Africa" 🧐 🤷♂
... i mean ... 🤔 🙂🤫🤭😀😄😆😂🤣
@@hugomarx1324 played 24 tests for SA are you kidding?
Ha ha, to all those Springbok haters, we're still the best, 4 world cups, All Blacks 3, Australia 2, England 1, France 0, Argentina 0, Italy 0, Wales 0, Ireland 0, Scotland 0 and so the list goes on and on, 000000000.
Dupont is magnificent, yet you cannot be the greatest and not win a world Cup.
He has won very little, maybe if he had driven France to win a world cup, without it ‘NO’, right now he is an underachiver
Won very little??? 4 Top 14 title, 2 champion cup, gold medal on the Olympic and world champion U20. So basically the only title he is missing is the world cup and he is only 27...
@@PierreLeger1I will add : World player of the year in both 15 and 7's codes... I am pretty sure (I am in fact) it never happened before
Like Gerber you mean ? Or Lomu ? 🤣
Plus a six nations grand slam in 2022. But you are right, his crown would be better installed with a world cup title.
The problem is France have never won any RWC be it with or without DuPont whereas both SA and NZ have won RWCs with different generations of players.
So that should more tell you that winning a RWC with France is WAY harder than winning one with SA or NZ and that it has nothing to do with DuPont not being good enough for it.
The best ever, that's a stretch he is very good, but he is not the best ever.
GERBER GOAT End of debate
No one knows him in the north.
Gerber ? Gregan ? Lomu ? Carter ?
no. no. no. Debatable.
@@vincentl8057 number 3 is debatable too. For my money, Christian Cullen has to be in that discussion too. He gave the same 'straight out of an unbalanced video game' visual impression
Jonah Lomu and Danie Gerber would make dupont look like a joke.
That comment is a joke
Daft to compare wingers / centres with inherently more space and time, from a time when professionalism was brand new, to a modern day fulcrum player like a 9 or 10. He has way, way more to think about and do. I’m still convinced Dupont sees Matrix numbers when he’s playing.
Duhan Van Der Merwe is the closest I can think to Lomu these days and he has massive weaknesses, aside from when he’s got a flat track and some scattered English to run at.
Dupont has to general the game - French teams are run more from 9 than 10, contrary to most other nations.
He has no real weakness I can pinpoint - he can do the flashy eye catching stuff which is what we think of when we think Lomu et al, he marshals his team utterly and 100%, his decision making is often perfect, his defence is outstanding, he sits down forwards when he carries, his kicking is masterful and off both feet.. Carter was great, the GOAT for me. But take him out of the side and they’d still win, they won a WC without him as they had a exemplary team.. McCaw, Reid, Kaino, Nonu .. DuPont had so much more of an impact on the team as he is head and shoulders above all the rest. And the French side has some world class in it.
Plonk Dupont into the 90s when Gerber was playing and Lomu was starting out and he’d play like an alien being - the speed and power combo, the kicking, tactical nous, defensive awareness.. he’d be running rings around everyone - he does that NOW in 2025, where after 35 years of professionalism each individual on that field is fitter, more powerful, fast twitch and defensively set strategically than ever. He’d look almost comical in a 90s team.
You mean the Lomu I know ? The one with this amazing passing skills and real kicking talent ? 🤣
Gerber was great all round player, Lomu for all his pace and Strengh wasn't a good defender. None of them were as a complete player as Dupont is.
He's brilliant,but he's got to win France a world cup to be considered" the goat" in my opinion ...
Fourie du Preez was better
Agreed! His performance throughout the 2007 World Cup is untouchable in my opinion.
wouldnt it just be the funniest thing ever, if duponts form takes a massive dip and for the rest of his career hes a "meh" player at best ... and then the internet (which *never* forgets) is filled with all these clips of these "pundits" creaming their pants about (what turned out to be a "meh" player in the end) how great this guy is ... and then everyone points and laughs at their stupidity? 🤣
(which is maybe why most rational people wait until a players career is over before they start throwing "the goat" around.)
...anyway....
I think were talking some premium bollox here, Dupont is no faf de klerk, how many world cups has he won single handedly for France? ooh quarter final was his best effort. everytime i watch pundits, every player they mention seems to be the best in the world, he hasn`t been playing tier 1 long enough, he may be the GOAT by the end of his career but not right now. He is a child in rugby career terms. let`s wait 10 years and stop blowing smoke up his arse because when a new kid comes round in a year or 2 you`ll just say the same thing and on and on. Your belittling the greats who spent whole careers playing and winning everything, this bozo took a year out to play 7`s, shows how actually commited he is to his national game. Zammit is another, and Wales needed him badly. he`ll get screwed @ American but he`ll come back and the pundits will roll out the red carpet for him. i`d personally tell them both to f**K off.
Big respect from France man, I think Dupont is the best player right now (biggest impact on the pitch), even if South Africa are the best team worldwide there is no comparison. I hope France manages to upset South Africa at some point this would be an honor!
Cheers from Toulouse
2:48 Bro is either tweaking or straight-up delusional, trying to say Dupont is better than Carter or McCaw. That’s wild. Luckily, it’s just his clueless opinion, because the record speaks for itself-Carter and McCaw won back-to-back World Cups, while Dupont couldn’t even get it done in the last one. Dude is great, no doubt, but greatest of all time? Not even close. People need to stop with this Dupont hype. Comparing him to legends like Carter and McCaw is straight-up insanity-not to mention Jonah Lomu.
Thx, I didn't knew rugby was an individual sport.
I naively believed it s a team that win a world cup.
Every day is a good day for learning!
@@cmoi613 Exactly! Rugby is a team sport-that’s why Dupont isn’t even in the same stratosphere as Carter, McCaw, or Lomu. Those guys didn’t just play in great teams; they were the reason their teams were great. Meanwhile, Dupont had a stacked French squad and still couldn’t get it done. But yeah, keep the hype train rolling. Every day is a good day for learning! 😉
Watching this game for a 2nd time. Question, what am I watching, France playing Whales or Springboks playing Whales?
Put the question differently, what happened to French flair? We understand Ireland has Irish skills and smarts, NZ has power & speed and RSA has great ball carrying ability and smash. But France always had French flair. Seems to me France adopted a new brand of rugby Springbok style. Looks good but can it win a world cup for France? Yes, it can.
PS - its not a thing of beauty (except if its your team performing the plays) but it can win WC`s. A team going about business and just doing their job. Then everybody in the squad becomes a special player. Wow.
PS - what’s better than having the best player in the world in your team? Answer - Having the best team in the world.
Crap Gareth Edwards was better and by a bit of a distance..
Sorry mate but there was a center in the 80s called Danie Gerber. Far greater than Dupont in every aspect. Faster, stronger, better kick, better step, better finisher and a better team player all around.
lol, some saffas are incredible.
Gerber never won anything on the international stage, he was just a local hero who played 24 tests for SA.....a good SA player from the Apartheid period!
Gerber was on the wrong side of history but during the irb centenary games he destroyed the northern teams
Gerber was on the wrong side of history but during the irb centenary games he destroyed the northern teams
Before anyone brings up world cups… Jonah never won a World Cup either.. and all the insecure saffas once again in the comments
I am here, i guess, according to your flawed logic. I am an insecure South African 😅😅😅
@ well then my logic isn’t flawed… it’s completely correct.
Danie Gerber, the greatest
What did he win, seriously?
Ehhhhh, have you forgot about Lomau?
He's class, no doubt. No 1 in the world right now, but best ever? Cumon, have a think
Sorry, reacting to the headline, Thanks Rob for clarifying
@@ciaranscullion1050 Lomu played in an era where people were often part time rugby players and couldn’t tackle a wet paper bag. Duponts dominance and influence on his team/winning is infinitely more impressive in the current day and age.
It’s the position they play
Number 9 scrum half has most influence . Literally quarterback
Lomu had physical attributes that made him special, more than his skill. I would say that Kolbe is a better, more rounded player.
Ya gotta lift Bill to be up on the "greatest" table
Weird take in a team sport...
The best ever is either Lomu or Gerber. Stop this dupont nonsense.
Lomu better than Dupont, how? Details please
Lomu 😂
Dupont is nowhere near players like Carter, Lomu or Gerber.
Gerber and lomu never won a world cup, just like Dupont that caould not be the GOAT for this reason according to many haters, so...
Yes he is a lot better.😂😂😂😂😂😂
absolute mickey mouse cast on this
DuPont has been outplayed in a lot of games playing his actual position! But the North cover it up by talking about how “well rounded” he is! Doesn’t matter how well rounded you are if you get outplayed doing your main job! DuPont gets all the praise because France historically shit the bed! He is no doubt an amazing player but best ever? No! Best currently? Depends on the day! So far he hasn’t even ventured out of his hemisphere! Saffas and kiwis get held to much higher standards and even then people don’t want to give them praise! The north have a good player and it’s all that gets talked about!
outplayed in a "lot" of games ? What is your TV brand ?
He has never really been outplayed that much. He's been hypertargeted so he used it to draw defenders to him and make others shine with the space created...😊
So if his the greatest why couldn't he mastermind a bok downfall in the world cup quarterfinals
What ? Cos ref
"dupont is the greatest ever"
*fact check: false*
Wat weet die 3
Danie Gerber was die beste ooit
Fun fact for those who may not know : Gerber's son is playing in PRO D2 in France and Gerber's nephew used to play for TOP14 team Bayonne. A family who obviously loved FRench rugby :-)
Until he Plays international rugby in the Southern Hemisphere then he’s not in the best ever conversation