Eran Zaidel - How Brain Scientists Think about Consciousness
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- Is consciousness a scientific problem to be solved? Or a philosophical problem that will remain a mystery? What do scientists who study the brain think? And why do they think the way they do? These leading brain scientists share their intimate ideas about how the brain generates consciousness.
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Eran Zaidel is Professor Emeritus of Behavioral Neuroscience and of Cognition in the Department of Psychology at UCLA, and a member of UCLA’s Brain Research Institute
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"trying to find consciousness in the brain is like trying to find music inside the radio console"..
i rest my case.
What case?
@@kelpkelp5252 A suit case maybe. Those things can get pretty heavy.
Or the TV program inside the physical structure of the TV
Well wouldn't be that hard to figure it out. Once you understand the radio is tuned to a frequency, you track the electromagnetic signal to the nearest antena. Then you investigate the antena and you figure out it's a repeater for another signal. You track down the signal to the source and you found the broadcast studio.
The radio analogy is bad though. With this analogy you are assuming the consciousness resides outside the brain. This hypothesis contradicts current evidence. There is no evidence consciousness is being mediated by some kind of field and recived by the brain. On the contrary we've found we can alter consciousness by physical intervention, electromagnetic fields and chemical substances. If you take drugs and loose the notion of self boundary, it's like the radio inflencing the broadcast studio.
If the radio can directly influence the broadcast studio, then maybe the broadcast studio is directly in the radio. And why separate such an object into radio and broadcast station in the first place? We can safely say everything is in the radio/music player/brain.
@@kokokokow1760 there is evidence of non local consciousness. plenty out there. start by reading dr pim van lommel consciousness beyond life.
good luck.
Absolutely brilliant series. The presenter is a total star - asks great questions, is genuinely interested, has good humour, and helps us all by restating, clarifying and simplifying. A great contribution to mankind I would say!
I agree! I've learned a lot from this show.
I second that!
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My left hemisphere is annoyed but my right hemisphere felt comforted that it was not alone.
But we need both .
Now,imagine we can develop a technology which can give signal to stop using left brain ... analytical work,but focus on emotion and feeling ,so it can stop or hack the system..let's say .
Will it have great impact ?
Yes left Brain is operating on Beta level ,but we need it may be not at beta level .
And just asking are we romanticising too much on Right brain not sure ?
Yes ,Right brain has special captibility of some special form of perception ... impossible for logical mind .
Again the big fight of consciousness will start in or outside brain ?
For unlike God who is the perfectly unified Three in One, we through sin develop inner conflict.
@@arzoo_singh Nope people can even live with half brain
I'm watching loads of these now because I'm soul searching. These are high quality and well presented. I follow you on twitter too.
good luck out there
Do some meditation too. If metaphysics were scientific..... It would simply be physics.
@@vrus91 that's reductionistic. The universe is probably beyond full understanding. Like a fractal, whatever they discover, there is always more.
This guy is awesome. I watch closer to truth, and a whole lot of PBS spacetime
@@vrus91 are you sure? Don't you think, that IS also human made stuff!!??
I am so excited that this is now on TH-cam. So much better than having to wait until X:XX pm on PBS to watch.....and now I get to watch again to make sure I understood what was being conveyed. I absolutely love it. Thank You!
One of the best, most intriguing videos yet.... Thank you!
I could listen to Eran Zaidel talk on this subject all day. The man has a way of communicating that's clear and down to earth.
@Jay His accent's German, not Israeli.
@jay Can you elaborate on what you mean by "jewish cadence"? But of course, Prof. Zaidel is repeating the comtemporary state of neuroscience and cognition (after all this is his area of expertise, beyond his education in Math and computer science). Modern neuroscience (like all hard sciences) is always a collaborative effort.
I listened very attentively to this discussion and at no point did I hear Prof. Zaidel attempting to take credit or to allude that he's taking credit for a discovery or a research that was conducted by somebody else. If you really listen to this discussion, Prof. Zaidel always sights authors of researches and findings, not discovered by him.
If you disagree, please point us to a particular place that makes you feel that he uses a "jewish cadence" (whatever that means).
Laziness (physical and intellectual) and lack of conscientiousness, combined with aspirations that can be ONLY achieved by many many years of focused hard work, leads to a poisonous combination of complex of inferiority, lack of ability to take personal responsibility for failure and, ultimately blaming own condition on "you know who" (dog whistle) that rule the world or have some kinda trick to hypnotize the poor bastards.
Go to school, try to learn something useful, boychik.
@@MichaelGaribaldi Actually, Prof. Eran Zaidel is an Israeli-born Prof. of Behavioral Neuroscience with UCLA.
He left Israel after the military service.
The accent, although not so pronounced, is clearly Israeli with not even a hint of German. Listen to his pronunciation of "R", "T", "D" and the vowels.
We only a dual processer. Come on
Synthetic
Wow, this was really a new view on "personality" via neuroscience!
I’m always happy to learn that Julian Jaynes will have to be reread sooner than later.
This is a great vid, it’s helping me understand my brain processing and it’s intuitive
This was one of the more interesting discussions. Thank you!
Exactly!
This video is so helpful while I'm studying the nervous system in biology. Thank you! Also, I'm saddened to see that Dr. Zaidel died in July 2021. I'm so grateful for his participation in this video and for his contributions to science.
He now knows the truth of consciousness as the only reality. No one dies, consciousness never ceases to be!
@@dare-er7sw you don't know that
Man oh man, what a jaw dropper. If what this guy is saying about the corpus callosum is true, this deserves a noble prize.
Very interesting conversation.
Absolutely brilliant.. I have never seen such discussion ..
This stuff is absolutely fascinating.
This was particularly interesting. I've not heard of Mr. Zaidel's dual consciousness theory before.
One of the best episodes 👍
The Master and his Emmisary is excellent on this
It does make sense. After all, don't we each contain a spectrum of personalities? Our moods and such. Don't you behave slightly differently every situation, contingent upon who you are with? Bringing out different aspects of oneself in reaction to the social environment we find ourselves in? So not only are we the product of the interactions between the two sides of the brain, but also with the circumstances we find ourselves embedded within.
"How Brain Scientists Think" : is a breath of fresh air.
Robert gets too bogged down with God and an Afterlife.
This series gets 10/10
But, in fact nonsense, although this may push people on to having some understanding. Or not.
Beautiful content
This is fascinating and perceptive, insightful
He starts the conversation with the words "brain structure is where we have to begin to understand consciousness". That is fine but it is limited. So limited that it sets 'boundaries" that can only generate limited solutions to the question of consciousness. Using Eran's example, we can say this kind of approach is like saying we have to begin with the trees to understand the forest. Lawrence's starting assumption necessarily limits the approach to a 'bottom up approach'. In this conversation it is said that even the physical structure of the brain suggest that both a bottom's up and top down approach is needed. This is subtle but the approach starts out saying 'brain structures' (our perception of brain structures) is the way to understand consciousness. This approach is saying that we can fully understand our perception (consciousness) by its perception of physical structures. This is a deeply embedded assumption that needs to be questioned and seen through. To be of greater validity our approach needs to be widened to include the question: Can consciousness (the whole of the forest and the trees) take itself as it own object of observation and study by way of contemplation and thereby somehow come to know itself. We can say this is a different way but also valid way of knowing. If we wish to be unbiased in our knowledge, we need to understand our assumptions that makes choices for us without our being aware of it. We are just a the starting point or edge of beginning to incorporate (embody as knowledge) this way of a more comprehensive way of knowing.
Consciousness is our primordial soul. First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
"That is fine but it is limited"
Why? Sometimes limits exist in nature. Recognising those isn't itself a sign of a "limited" mindset' It's just a realistic approach to answering a question.
@@timwatts9371 Limits exist everywhere but not concerning spiritual enlightenment.. Every person today that takes up any religion is showing exactly what their limit is. Falun Dafa is limitless.
"Half of my lab is left handed" Real smooth doc.
Kur e mendon, statistikisht eshte e pazakonte gjysma te jene mengjarash. So maybe he had a point xD
@@ArmirCeliku Veq 10% te njerzve jan dore majt. I kan kta do qesi hajgare palidhje. Dore majt kishe punetoret e mi ne laborator i bajn do sene mrapsht.
And even different representation at the same time in different parts of the mind. - Great talk, very interesting.
First of all the brain does not think, it is not your mind. It is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
Consciousness is where ever the focus of attention is at
Not really but ok
@@harshbing8123 OK What?
I really like that!
No, you can train your mind to focus and concentration on one or multiple things.
Consciousness is the basic reality of the the entire universe.
Indivisible.
Consciousness is more like the knower of objects in reality.
The brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
Maybe "counciousness" is simply that there is TWO consciousness's in each person, and one is able to look at the other and reflect on it, thus allowing us to be "aware" of ourselves, aka, each consciousness being aware of the other simultaneously. So you can be conscious (animals etc) but not aware of your own consciousness because animals only have one, not two, and able to look at the other. If that makes sense lol
What amazes me about consciousness researchers is that not even one of them seems to know that here is only one place where you can ever find It. They think they're studying consciousness, but actually they are only studying memory. Consciousness can only ever be found in present moment awareness. As soon as you define it's gone and becomes static memories.
True. They are missing consciousness i.e. presence, by analyzing and discussing about.
Mind is so much dependent or grounded in memories that it will keep us in memory cassette loop over and over and never set free to experience consciousness.
Problem is they trying to find consciousness in objective reality/ words/ mathematical modelling etc while its a subjective experience.
Its found in the thalamus and its mediated through serotonin. Too bad they didnt talk about it.
Why do you say Conciousness represent the present moment.
What if you are conscious of the past as presented by the memory loaded by cognition of the senses.
Like seeing a film already shot?
@@madhansundararajan5414 If you are "conscious of the past as presented by memory" than you are awareness--which only ever exists in the present--looking over memories, like watching a film of things that already happened. When you watch a film, is that film you?
If we drop the " you" in your argument and complete the circuit without it , we have a Conscious memory followed by action as the functional present. The problem lies in the idea of "I" that seems to suggest a concious present.
Self awareness is just a super imposed idea and born out of the memory.
Proof .. without memory either I or you don't exist.
I dont know why some people are like " just words no answer". Obviously we don't have answer and we are trying. If we already had it would have been in news and you wont find it first on
TH-cam. But here we can understand how close we have come. CLOSER TO TRUTH.
You are about to learn something on You Tube. First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
This just opened my eyes to something I have been "plagued" with, all my life: the ability to observe myself, and not be "involved". It's difficult to explain, but I can detach and seemingly watch as if in the third person. It scares me sometimes, but this new information helps. The problem is that my brain is inside my head, so why do I literally feel like I have left my body? There were two instances when this happened where I got "stuck" and didn't know if I would "go back". I know the mind is quite the maze, but what the hell in my brain does this?! I just want it to stop. 😓😔
Whenever you are stuck like that, chant Om..you will see that inspite of you feeling observing feom outside the body, it will centre you back...
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
Maybe you suffer from some kind of depersonalization. Have you experienced trauma in your life? I would advice you to see a therapist about that.
Whitman, Thoreau, Sagan have commented on this phenomena of being "outside" of oneself. A blessed state that comes in flashes. I simply enjoy them when they come.
That's what's known by science as an out of body experience, known in spirituality as astral projection and in psychology as a type of dissociation which is a result of trauma. How you wish to view it is up to you but I recommend researching each of these explanations of what it is before coming to your own view of what it is.
That's one of the most interesting topics IMHO.
Dualism seems to be not only the foundation of old sciences like religion and philosophy, but also the guideline of everything that modern sciences reveal (particles and waves;matter and antimatter;positive and negative..).
Where old and new sciences match is that the whole thing is created by 2 contradicting parts (like yin and yang being only a perfect circle together).
We tend to search for the one unique explanation but probably never will get it without considering 2 attracting opposites. The key seems to be the balance of /harmony between 2 extremes, because energy can only be created by that.
To be fair, dualism traditionally is meant as Spirit/Body not Mind/Mind as he is discussing here. Don't confuse mysticism and religious superstitious beliefs with scientific knowledge.
Pure Love
Had a discussion with a coworker about this the other day. If everything else in the universe is understandable through physics and chemistry, I don’t understand how neuronal activity leading to consciousness, since we know the brain is where consciousness resides, can’t also be explained by mathematical principles. I think we will figure out how memories are formed and then design a supercomputer to link and predict how these memories and outside influences affect decisions and predict our actions.
Consciousness is eternal.
@@dare-er7sw can this be concluded from Near Death Experiences?
@@Stefan1971HH They are powerful subjective testimonies. Betty Eadie, Dannion Brinkley, Dr. Eben Alexander, Dr. George Ritchie who was looking for his body in the hospital ward when he collapsed from pneumonia, died, and was confused, and many other cases. It's not the domain of science. If consciousness is the primal reality so be it.
The brain IS NOT where consciousness lies. For years scientists believed that, however, we now know better.
@@dare-er7sw I don’t care about anecdotes, I care about the science.
One consciousness experiences various perspectives of reality
. First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
But if you reduce the consciousness to the different hemispheres, "two", why don't you just reduce the consciousness to different brain regions..language, mathematics, emotions, memories, desires, mental rotation, visual consciousness, auditory consciousness, smell, pressure, face recognition and so on..with each corresponding physical neural location..or even FURTHER to part's of them..say the consciousness of "s" in the word "say"..which certainly has a corresponding neutral physical location?
I mean.."how down can consciousness actually GO in order for it to be just on te edge of the consciousness and unconsciousness"..Is it ten axon firing or is it just a one molecule at the synapse cavity?
How about the central executive..namely working memory..FOCUS. If you damage THAT part it really doesn't matter what other parts are conscious about..YOU are not conscious about it.
There's one corresponding physical neural event for every mental event.
What a brilliant man ,
I've always found the the most brilliant mind can explain to the even less than average in way that even they can understand
I know this to be true cause even I understand what he's talking about.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514 many would disagree , why then does brain damage impair a person's abilities to function, why is there dementia.
@@bipedalbob If you were sitting in the driver's seat of a car and all the instruments and the steering wheel were damaged, you could not get the car to obey your commands and the same if the brain was damaged. But you, your soul would still be there.
If it's our soul that is our thoughts then why is there psycopaths and paedophiles.
"Creativity is the movement of a representation to another" Wow
I was pondering this whole thing and wondering have we studied what makes someone conscious vs unconscious when they are alive? Unconscious could be for many reasons, put under for surgery, bad end of a hay maker, sleeping - whatever. It seems like this is problematic in a lot of ways because all the features that creat consciousness are still present when unconscious - if they aren’t then which features change? Isn’t this key to consciousness?
That's what I'm talking about
You and me , Pinky hahaha
so consciousness is awareness.... being attentive.. The brain is a bunch of nerves, and nerves do 1 thing, they perceive.... The brain is a perception tool, and consciousness is simply you perceiving reality. Wasnt that complicated..m
@@mennehgambia1962 the brain is a filter that allows you to concentrate. Consciousness is who you we really are. We are not ours thoughts or the body.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
@@jdub2378 Yes. Advaita Vedanta
This program would have been better if it shows it with some visuals. I request Mr.Kuhn to make his program with depictions of what the speakers are talking about.
So you are given free quality content and you still demand more?
Mr. Kuhn,
wich principal you are following, to find these people, you're talking with???
How is time processed in the two hemispheres of brain, such as past and future?
The brain is very fascinating
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
I had same idea that one brain divide two for processing handling. !!
Is consciousness then the "conversation" and "comparison" between the two brain halves? Each one observing the other?
What is it meant by 'language"? words in the mind as we talk things over with ourselves without vocalising those words, or speech, the vocalised words?
Its a good question. Those 2 things you mention have one thing in common which comes to my mind: patterning,. Whether that be patterning of neural signals in the brain, or patterning of the air by our vocal chords or patterning symbols on paper if written. So that is definitely a major part of language, understanding pattern can help one understand what "language" is. This is part of the reason Information Theory is so powerful.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514 right however "soul" is a product of sublimated matter, a linguistic living organism - mainly the product of the whole nervous system.
From the sensorimotor pov the brain is almost perfectly symmetrical right down through the motor neurons and sensory neurons in the spinal cord that split right and left.
I’m of two minds about this conversation.
complexity within simplicity
Based on this interview, a thought comes to my mind. Relative to 'two minds in "one", connected by a corpus callosum '. Can 'single things' fundamentally be made of 'dualities'? Isn't "all physicality" based upon the principle of an imbalance between the duality of matter and anti-matter that still exists?
I don't think that consciousness can be 'solved' like a mathematical equation, however consciousness is functionally energy related, so there will be a structural and functional relationship for consciousness, relative to the 'minds eye', that can be sensed and developed by the mind.
The corpus christies passed that line on to you , welcome to the bottoms up club , its more fun & had-able
Exactly. Imbalance is the Key to create a balanced entity (being stable but also ambivalent 😊)
I think the 2 minds hes referring to is schizophrenia
Consciousness is one's soul. First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
I think I'd like an ice cream. No I don't! Yes I do! Shut up!!
Julian Jaynes Bicameral Mind is something to look into. It's all about two minds, one body, and the origins of consciousness and the concept of the self. I really love the theory, but no one seems to know about it. My favorite part about it is that it doesn't shy away from the fact that humans apparently gained something through evolution that allowed culture and civilization in the blink of an eye, at least in evolutionary time.
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bicameralism_(psychology)
I know it from Westworld series 👍
What happens to energy of neurons in language area on left side of brain?
I wonder what this says in regards to inner monologue. Often times it feels like you are having a conversation with yourself, but could it actually be the two sides in conversation?
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
very good----it does not explain consciousness other than indirectly, tho.
So many more people can come out
My consciousness is one part of an extreme existential development that I can only resent. Could be that if it had been moderate rather than extreme I would have felt grateful for it. I'll never know.
Your soul is your consciousness, the brain does not think, it just takes orders from one's soul................falun dafa
Your consciousness is you, your primordial soul, the part of you that is reading this comment right now. ............................falun dafa
Consciousnesses is not material, it is spiritual. It is a matter of soul even more spirit. Without the scientific paradigm shift there will be only a limited progress in understanding it.
“I learned to recognise the thorough and primitive duality of man; I saw that, of the two natures that contended in the field of my consciousness, even if I could rightly be said to be either, it was only because I was radically both.”
― Robert Louis Stevenson, Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde
Conscience is soo simple..its to be aware the stages of conscience how much you are aware...
Are you aware that perception is based on conscience..we are only ignorantly aware of our conscience through the need to have an answer. To question ..if not able to understand we need to have an answer in order to feel understanding..
There possibilité there is no answer
I see and feel that's a very good possibility....and making it fpr myself..my personable perception that simple...god in my eyes and heart isn't to be the question..conscience isnt to be questioned...w= question everything as if we are meant to do soo .true knowledge is proved to be had by experience..expetience life..living ...questioning only what you choose to experience
Simple is sweet
So the right brain vs left brain distinction is analogous to Kahnemann's System 1 and 2 ? Is it really that simple?
4:20 what he said is partially correct but far more complicated than that
Awareness is known by awareness alone.
Why do I seem to be a specific, individualized consciousness associated with a specific body while you seem to be a different specific, individualized consciousness associated with another body? Why am I, I and you, you? There were billions of bodies around before this one showed up so what changed that I should find myself to be looking out of the eyeballs of this particular body and no other? When it comes to understanding consciousness this is the most important question that must be asked and answered but it is rarely even acknowledged. When the ontologies purporting to explain consciousness are examined critically it becomes obvious that all materialist/reductionist strategies fail completely in attempting to address this question.
What is the principled explanation for why:
A brain over here would generate my specific consciousness and a brain over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Integrated information over here would generate my specific consciousness and integrated information over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Global workspace over here would generate my specific consciousness and global workspace there would generate your specific consciousness?
Orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over here would generate my specific consciousness and orchestrated quantum collapse in microtubules over there would generate your specific consciousness?
A clump of conscious atoms over here (panpsychicism) would generate my specific consciousness and a clump of conscious over there would generate your specific consciousness?
Materialism already fails since it cannot find a transfer function between microvolt level sparks in the brain and any experience or qualia. In addition it’s not possible for materialistic ontologies to address this question of individuality since no measurement can be made that could verify my consciousness vs your consciousness and therefore no materialist ontology could even make any coherent statements about the subject.
When you listen to brain scientists, and are thinking: OK, I knew that... and that.... and that.... etc..
and you realize that you missed your calling. It just seems like common knowledge to me.
No your on The Same Level.
Dimension.Your Proof,we are
Evolving again. Go ahead Up Grade?
@@heaven4247 I have been on that level since I met Carl Sagan. He opened my eyes. Now i can see everything.
@@timhallas4275
A lot of people who are too lazy or not intelligent enough to actually study and become qualified in the sciences like to imagine that they understand it as well as those who did. It's an example of the Dunning Kruger Effect.
@@timwatts9371 That's true. I have met many of them, but some people are actually just intelligent, and DO understand a lot of science without a lot of formal education. You may well be one of them.
How is mathematics done in each hemisphere of brain?
Just wondering. Why must it be a dual nature? for example, is it possible to have two larger systems however within the cut right and left side as you were talking about in the video that they could be an accumulation of subsystems? And rather the brain somehow when connected integrates this information into a coherent frame.
. First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment..
Wow! This is absolutely crazy. I never knew I had two 'I's within me. The unitary movement I feel about myself must be an illusion.
kumar, don't take it too far. They were talking about people who had surgery to split their brain in two at the corpus callosum. The hemispheres are still connected at the brain stem, and in other ways, but most people apparently have severe deficits after this radical procedure. Only a certain percentage are able to continue a reasonable level of functioning and appear to display two separate "I's" in limited terms. No one will ever split the hindbrain and forebrain to make two people since the brain doesn't work that way. There is only one "I" and just because brain damaged people display strange affectations does not change that.
@@caricue thank you. I was confused about their weird claims. Now, can appreciate it better.
@@caricue can you help me pls this giving me anxiety
Dual Consciousness...very interesting.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
Is there a difference in energy between two sides of brain?
Sensory inputs and memories cause neurons to fire. Chemoelectric signals are generated in the synapses.
It seems to me that consciousness manifests when a critical mass of neurons are generating their chemoelectrical signals. As these electrical signals travel on the axons, electromagnetic waves are produced that radiate short distances. When multiple neurons fire simultaneously, a complex field is created by these intersecting EM waves.
Feed back loops emerge and become regulated by an emergent brain property, consciousness. Consciousness is the ability to focus and regulate these feed back loops.
Learned something new: current hypothesis that the left hemisphere is bottom-up thinking, such as seeing the trees and then extrapolating idea of a forest; the right hemisphere is top-down thinking, such as first conceptualuzing the forest and then inferring that it must be made of trees. Full consciousness is first running the program of one brain hemisphere, and then running the program of the other hemisphere to clean up errors in perception and cognition.
you just said a bunch of nothing. good job, yt philosopher
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
All I wanna do is understand outside and I’ve looked everywhere in the house and I can’t find it, but I’m just gonna keep looking inside the house eventually I’ll have to find it right?
How do you "talk to" the two hemispheres, to find out if they are the same or different?
my immediate thought
From a psychodynamic viewpoint, this is a type of 'Parts Therapy' or Internal Family Systems...”A piece of me wants x, a piece of me wants y”.
As a hypnotist usually what I’m doing is asking the person's left brain to relax and let go of control for a bit and let the right brain come forward. There’s a line of thinking that describes this as the mechanism for entering the sleep state (and the dream state), via slowing down brain waves, slowing down breath, eliciting the parasympathetic, etc.
you show them the question, left eye : right brain , right eye left brain, right brain will write using left hand while the left brain will talk
Look into vision processign, reading requires LEFT & RIGHT processing.
14:00 they do not differentiate between self-concept and generated personal identity or personality, they give many name, sometime for the same thing and sometimes they invent unnecessary terms, because of the misunderstanding.
This explains Almond Joy candy bar. Sometimes you feel like a nut, sometimes you don't
Sometimes you Can't Hahaha
Some times.
A piece from a new book titled: Saved by the Light of the Buddha Within
Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what some scientists are now referring to as the unified field of consciousnesses. In other words, it’s the essence of all existence and non-existence - the ultimate creative force behind planets, stars, nebulae, people, animals, trees, fish, birds, and all phenomena, manifest or latent. All matter and intelligence are simply waves or ripples manifesting to and from this core source. Consciousness (enlightenment) is itself the actual creator of everything that exists now, ever existed in the past, or will exist in the future - right down to the minutest particles of dust - each being an individual ripple or wave. The big difference between chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo and most other conventional prayers is that instead of depending on a ‘middleman’ to connect us to our state of inner enlightenment, we’re able to do it ourselves. That’s because chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo allows us to tap directly into our enlightened state by way of this self-produced sound vibration.
‘Who or What Is God?’ If we compare the concept of God being a separate entity that is forever watching down on us, to the teachings of Nichiren, it makes more sense to me that the true omnipotence, omniscience and omnipresence of what most people perceive to be God, is the fantastic state of enlightenment that exists within each of us. Some say that God is an entity that’s beyond physical matter - I think that the vast amount of information continuously being conveyed via electromagnetic waves in today’s world gives us proof of how an invisible state of God could indeed exist. For example, it’s now widely known that specific data relayed by way of electromagnetic waves has the potential to help bring about extraordinary and powerful effects - including an instant global awareness of something or a mass emotional reaction. It’s also common knowledge that these invisible waves can easily be used to detonate a bomb or to enable NASA to control the movements of a robot as far away as the Moon or Mars - none of which is possible without a receiver to decode the information that’s being transmitted. Without the receiver, the data would remain impotent. In a very similar way, we need to have our own ‘receiver’ switched on so that we can activate a clear and precise understanding of our own life, all other life and what everything else in existence is. Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day helps us to achieve this because it allows us to reach into the core of our enlightenment and keep it switched on. That’s because Myoho-Renge-Kyo represents the identity of what scientists now refer to as the unified field of consciousnesses.
To break it down - Myoho represents the Law of manifestation and latency (Nature) and consists of two alternating states. For example, the state of Myo is where everything in life that’s not obvious to us exists - including our stored memories when we’re not thinking about them - our hidden potential and inner emotions whenever they’re dormant - our desires, our fears, our wisdom, happiness, karma - and more importantly, our enlightenment. The other state, ho, is where everything in Life exists whenever it becomes evident to us, such as when a thought pops up from within our memory - whenever we experience or express our emotions - or whenever a good or bad cause manifests as an effect from our karma. When anything becomes apparent, it merely means that it’s come out of the state of Myo (dormancy/latency) and into a state of ho (manifestation). It’s the difference between consciousness and unconsciousness, being awake or asleep, or knowing and not knowing.
The second law - Renge - Ren meaning cause and ge meaning effect, governs and controls the functions of Myoho - these two laws of Myoho and Renge, not only function together simultaneously but also underlie all spiritual and physical existence.
The final and third part of the tri-combination - Kyo, is the Law which allows Myoho to integrate with Renge - or vice verse. It’s the great, invisible thread of energy that fuses and connects all Life and matter - as well as the past, present and future. It’s also sometimes termed the Universal Law of Communication - perhaps it could even be compared with the string theory that many scientists now suspect exists.
Just as the cells in our body, our thoughts, feelings and everything else is continually fluctuating within us - all that exists in the world around us and beyond is also in a constant state of flux - constantly controlled by these three fundamental laws. In fact, more things are going back and forth between the two states of Myo and ho in a single moment of time than it would ever be possible to calculate or describe. And it doesn’t matter how big or small, famous or trivial anything or anyone may appear to be, everything that’s ever existed in the past, exists now or will exist in the future, exists only because of the workings of the Laws ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ - the basis of the four fundamental forces, and if they didn’t function, neither we nor anything else could go on existing. That’s because all forms of existence, including the seasons, day, night, birth, death and so on, are moving forward in an ongoing flow of continuation - rhythmically reverting back and forth between the two fundamental states of Myo and ho in absolute accordance with Renge - and by way of Kyo. Even stars are dying and being reborn under the workings of what the combination ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’ represents.
Nam, or Namu - which mean the same thing, are vibrational passwords or keys that allow us to reach deep into our life and fuse with or become one with ‘Myoho-Renge-Kyo’. On a more personal level, nothing ever happens by chance or coincidence, it’s the causes that we’ve made in our past, or are presently making, that determine how these laws function uniquely in each of our lives - as well as the environment from moment to moment. By facing east, in harmony with the direction that the Earth is spinning, and chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo for a minimum of, let’s say, ten minutes daily to start with, any of us can experience actual proof of its positive effects in our lives - even if it only makes us feel good on the inside, there will be a definite positive effect. That’s because we’re able to pierce through the thickest layers of our karma and activate our inherent Buddha Nature (our enlightened state). By so doing, we’re then able to bring forth the wisdom and good fortune that we need to challenge, overcome and change our adverse circumstances - turn them into positive ones - or manifest and gain even greater fulfilment in our daily lives from our accumulated good karma. This also allows us to bring forth the wisdom that can free us from the ignorance and stupidity that’s preventing us from accepting and being proud of the person that we indeed are - regardless of our race, colour, gender or sexuality. We’re also able to see and understand our circumstances and the environment far more clearly, as well as attract and connect with any needed external beneficial forces and situations. As I’ve already mentioned, everything is subject to the law of Cause and Effect - the ‘actual-proof-strength’ resulting from chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo always depends on our determination, sincerity and dedication. For example, the levels of difference could be compared to between making a sound on a piano, creating a melody, or producing a great song, and so on. Something else that’s very important to always to respect and acknowledge is that the Law (or if you prefer God) is in everyone and everything.
NB: There are frightening and disturbing sounds, and there are tranquil and relaxing sounds. It’s the emotional result from any noise or sound that can trigger off a mood or even instantly change one. When chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo each day, we are producing a sound vibration that’s the password to our true inner-self - this soon becomes apparent when you start reassessing your views on various things - such as your fears and desires etc. The best way to get the desired result when chanting is not to view things in a conventional way - rather than reaching out to an external source, we need to reach into our own lives and bring our needs and desires to fruition from within - including the good fortune and strength to achieve any help that we may need.
Chanting Nam-Myoho-Renge-Kyo also reaches out externally and draws us towards, or draws towards us, what we need to make us happy from our environment. For example, it helps us to be in the right place at the right time - to make better choices and decisions and so forth. We need to think of it as a seed within us that we’re watering and bringing sunshine to for it to grow, blossom and bring forth fruit or flowers. It’s also important to understand that everything we need in life - including the answer to every question and the potential to achieve every dream - already exists within us. th-cam.com/video/NR5DdqjMxgA/w-d-xo.html
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
Let go, and let God - Olivia Newton-John Nam Myoho Renge Kyo
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I'm fascinated with the subject of right handed and left handed...
I'm left handed (more or less)... i also had a little bit of dyslexia when i was a kid...
I say more or less because some activities are specifically located with my left hand (writing, drawing, basically anything asking fine motor skills) some activities are located with my right hand only (playing tennis... throwing a base ball, using tools etc) and some activities are purely ambidextrous (i shave my face with my both hands without even paying attention) ... when i use the computer of my left hand friend it takes me a while to realize that the mouse is on thr left side)
My leading eye is the left one : i shoot with a rifle onn the left side ...
Go figure this mess 😊
Nobody is able to explain why lefty are more or less 10% of the human population... and why it's always been the case since the beginning of times... this proportion appears to be constant no matter how much it was repressed by religions or other superstitious beliefs...
Left handers also resist the theory of evolution... if it had been a disadvantage in human history (need of specialised tools etc) it would have disappeared to the profit of right handers vast majority... if an advantage it would have got bigger in proportion during time... but nope... 10% of the population no matter what part of the world...
More work for the brain scientists in the future i guess
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
I think consciousness is a relationship between to minds 🤔
The whole human body is just an antenna that sends reports to/receives commands from somewhere. Brain is the central communication devices and also the command handler.
Youre just displacing the problem by saying consciousness is happening elsewhere because we can't make sense of the brain as it is. You might as well say "because god", and if the human race had stuck with that we wouldnt have made anything at all.
@@mattblack6736 I don't know much about god. My background culture simply don't take god seriously. But being sentient is definitely very godly phenomenon. And pure knowing definitely has absolute property.
Wow
RIP sir.
Is thermometer and temperature same..is barometer and altitude same..how can brain and consiciouaness same..you can not a brain and consciousness as same..
It's wondering how consciousness beings we live correlatedly perceiveing in unconscious materlistic an non physical world in consciousness but impossible to know unconscious materlistic world with out consciousness an not even full consciousness of conscious and unconscious materlistic an non physical life
We have consciousness because we have perception of time. If we didnt have perception of time we will have only senses. Until 3-4 years old we just have senses after that period we can form memory and have perception of time in order to have what we called DEVELOPED CONSCIOUSNESS
Devendraekhande I am with you bro ! The arrow of time is simply how our conscious experiences the universe . Our understanding of time is severely lacking !
Even with the ability to perceive time in addition to sensual capabilities I’m not sure that’s enough to equate to consciousness. If you developed some software, include a program to measure time accurately, include hardware to detect pressure, temperature etc etc as our senses, I don’t think you could argue that it has consciousness.
@@Zen_Power Everything is a result of very minor quantum fluctuation. Even if we take 0 (consider it as nothing), there are positives on one side and negatives on antagonistic side. So basically even in nothing (which can be perceived only at speed of light), there are positives and negatives ( u may consider up- down, clockwise-anticlockwise), so these equally antagonistic things are perceivable below speed of light. Even though these are completely opposite there happens veryyyy minor fluctuation in their otherwise perfect antagonistic positions resulting in big bang. This bing bang resulted in assymetric distribution of these positives and negatives. This distribution wl become symmetric once this fluctuation ends ( it cant be observed at edge of univesrse or at speed of light but in relative speed we experience it as billions of years). NOW coming to humans, this assymetric distribution resulted in formation of atoms (in atoms also intrinsic tendency to balancing + and - is maintained). This balancing coupled with infinite time ( its infinite for us as we are inside quantum fluctuation which has innate tendency to operate at speed of light) can certainly create infinite probabilities. These random probabilities gave rise to creation of such arrangement of atoms which created basic structure which demanded for energy and increase in size. THIS IS POINT WHERE IT GETS TRICKY to explain development of SENSE (BIGGER QUESTION). It can be result of infinite probabilities but humans have nature to look for answer, so as of now we can't measure these probabilities so we give it a name of EMERGENCE. If we could find out how senses emerged, then it is rather easy to explain consciousness. All living organisms have senses. In the process of evolution humans developed property of strong memory as it is necessary for survival. We have strong memory so strong awareness of time which helps in more options in decision making which we call it as FREE WILL or DEVELOPED CONSCIOUSNESS. This network is weak as we go to other animals, hence their CONSCIOUSNESS is weak. ( Just try as hard as you want, you won't be able to recall when you were younger than 3-4 years, YOU CANT ). So newborn is just animal with senses.
So, as this fluctuation will end when perfect antagonism of these + and - will be attained creating BLACK HOLE. Next big bang wl happen during next fluctuation and it wl go on and on.
SO EVERYTHING IS RESULT OF WAVE FUNCTION WITH INTRINSIC PROPERTY OF A MINOR FLUCTUATION.
Do read whenever you get time.
@@Zen_Power Only if we could create identical senses in machines then there consciousness will be similar to us humans. Because humans consciousness act as a result of feedback output to input generated via theses senses. Fulfillment of theses senses is intrinsic property of living things. ( If individual isnt getting enough positive feedback for example from touch * like sex *, one of the sense then organism tries to look for more positive feedback from any other sense - just a stupid example) But yes we operate on feedback mechanism.
It's just due to enormous probabilities and our limited brain, we get overwhelmed. Yes but we are getting CLOSER TO TRUTH.
Interresting theory, that the Hemispheres are for differently Thninking-Modes.
But there´s some all-embracing conception, that right-hemisphere are more man-like, and left-hemisphere are more woman-like - for the humanoids.
Dolphin and Birds use this Hemispheeres for sleep at flight or swim. One hemisphere is sleeping, the other works for motoric functions and controlling environment - interchangeably according to prevailing need. That there are special functions in each hemisphere, is thereby less probable. Only special life-styles that conditioning Brain, can form hyper-specialised brainregions between left and right hemispghere.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
@@jeffforsythe9514 MAybe. Bit without the Brain nothing can think anything on higher cognition..
@@cgfreeandeasy The soul is immortal while the brain is over fifty percent fat. When the brain along with the rest of the body is decomposing, the soul has moved on.
@@jeffforsythe9514 Maybe yes, but without a brain this soul cannot reincarnate. If on earth one Species exstinct, and no other comparable species can take their soul, then there would this soul no more resurrect. Maybe this soul splitts of in much particles, that drift in many species "down" in compatible Soul-particles and live on in new souls.
But without brains, there are no appearance of Soul in the universe. That did not mean, that souls come out of braines and only brains are required to generate "Soul", but it means, that without brain no appearance and existance of it is possible. You need brains to sustain/ uphold such "souls".
@@jeffforsythe9514 But when this "soul" can independently from brains exist, then it must be a more greater Being exist out of our perception ability. For us Humans/earth-species means this, that we are only then capable to participate in soul, when we have a brain with sufficient function and complexity. And it still means, that a brain even for this big(ger) entity is necessary to generate or bring out, or just as we do, participate in it.
The corpus colosum sounds like it is an organic integrated circuit
Consciousnesses is unified one side intends and one side thinks. Intention is the whole while the thoughts are the parts of the whole. Love is reality and wisdom is its manifestation. One can't be without the other. It is exactly like heat and the light that the heat gives of. They are unified.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
we can never understand consciousness we are the product of it
Corpus callosum, by looking to the brain anatomy they miss an essential part.
12:00 that is solid proof that everything I have said before is 100% correct, it is self-concept what generate both so-called personal identity and consciousness type one, they have misinterpretations
I’m so fascinated, captivated (maybe even at times intoxicated) by the organ that we call the brain.
And it is unparalleled, at least as far as we can tell, as thee only matter (or non matter) that can study itself. You can only use the brain to study the brain, what other being can you say that about ?
Time
To different time frames...............light takes time
Arrows of time........lleft to right
Instead of saying the left side is for language, instead say it is for social interaction. The left side is our more public hemisphere vs the right side is more private and our creative inner world which we mediate to share via public language, rules, standards...
I feel like the left/right brain view of consciousness is a bit dated. How will we ever find out what consciousness really is if we are just figuring out what the left and right side does? We need to find the first principals fist, and figure out how consciousness arises from those, not from the top down.
First of all the brain does not think, it is our primordial souls that think. Right now it is your soul that is reading this comment.......................falun dafa
If man want to make devices as can do mental functions, man must copy the way the Eternal Life does.
So the device must have power, 'Gravity', it must work 'automatic', Instinct', there must be order, Logic, System, 'Intelligence', and 'Memory', sensors can be added, 'Feeling'.
Intuition, is not at all understoud, and it will be to extensive to go in further details with, but the 'Idea, and Satisfaction', is keywords, even it is far more dynamic.
The rainbow mirror the structure of our eternal consciousness, we might say that purple present the Over-consciousness, which actually is color-less, it contains six eternal ablility-kernels, Instinct, red- Gravity, orange- Feeling, Yellow - Intelligence, green - Intuition, violet/blue - and Memory, - indigo - the basic abilities present the Under-consciousness, which consist of the Day-consciousness, and the Night-consciousness.
These abilities is mirrored in our physical body-structure, as organ-areas, as well in our consciousness.
the structure, and it's order present a developing-circuit, which all ways begin (from) and end with Memory.
This is the naked nature of the consciousness, and if we imagine that one of the eternal abilities could be taken away, the consciousness would not work, - try it, if you can.
Well, the consciousness is Not in the brain, but works through the brain, like the programs is not in the radio, but works through the radio, but the brain are of organic nature, and if a hare realize a new smell, then it create an synaps, so it can be recognized next time.
The two part of the brain present the Feminin pole/principle, and the Masculine pole/principle, which is the most basic in the organ-structure of the Living Beings. The brain is a highly developed being, it have it's own consciousness, and live in it's own heaven, in a lower developing-circuit, our physical body
In this perspective, the brain-scientists is Not yet born, They are just researchers, neuro-researchers.
So, We, and our consciousness, have all ways been, 'Here and Now', and the Eternal Here and Now is the Only real 'steady point', behind the Motion-Ocean.
What about people that write with their feet? 👀
Is the brain clever enough to understand itself? The ultimate question.
Who is the brain?
this is for future generations only, as mentioned before it is not for their ancestors "the apes", I know that the apes' little irrational minds are good only at thievery and polluting human thoughts like any other apes.
What generates consciousness type one is self-concept itself. Consciousness type two is just a small part of self-concept, even though it plays a main role in the background such as using cerebellum to make a very sophisticated mathematical operations, for high accuracy tasks such as in shooting, driving, .... etc. Involuntary nervous system, immune system, ..... Self-concept uses consciousness type one to recognize the inner and outer world but there is better definition,
Self-concept is one of the most advanced coding systems in existence itself, it works deeper than genes, and deeper than so-called quantum physics. It's governed by science and only science but very sophisticated.
future rational intelligent Human entities have to focus on consciousness type one that's more than enough to master science. the current mathematics, physics, ... are incomplete and include many mistakes too, it will take time to revise and improve science, that time humans can think seriously to understand consciousness type one. In consciousness type one self-concept uses right side of the brain to resemble itself and the left side for logical judgment, control, but actually who is in more control is the right side, there is a strong interactions between who uses both is the same one, that is the secret of that dialog in the Ape's brain, it's more complicated than that of course but it is just to concise. there was more details about space-time, Gravity, entanglement, superposition, consciousness, awareness, concept of infinity, numbers,...... He wrote them on one of the TH-cam channels, they are hidden or deleted purposely, but he has sent them per email before, and...... there was only one condition from the beginning: steal but do not pollute, I knew all this from the beginning, I have told them this is not for you it is for future generations, they could not digest that, human logic and ..... logic are completely different, the only thing they can do is polluting human logic, I am not interested in the world of .... because it is not my world. all I care about is that the message reaches future generation clean and not polluted with the apes low logic. it is nor COVID-19 effect neither revelation from the sky "the gods of the apes", it is a thievery using patching techniques through thievery. many apes lately want to imitate a specific model "self-concept" using patching techniques of thievery.
by the way, the location of self-concept is the brain-stem and the surrounding area but reaches the the vital organs during awake, it generates so-called personal identity too, which continue throughout the person's life, ..... all this hid or deleted purposely, probably it is a thievery.
in some cases such as severe psychological trauma self-concept disconnects the left side of the brain "it does work but partially works and in chaos" they are committing a real crimes against future generations by stealing or using patching techniques of thievery,
they can steal "the whole package" but do not pollute because human logic and the apes logic are completely different (will never work together), but they did not respect the deal, they want both: stealing and polluting! that is too much for the apes!.
I know that the only thing the apes are good at is thievery and polluting human thoughts like any other ape. steal but do not pollute for the sake of future generations, even though I know very well how much the sick irrational apes are greedy, thieves, .....