What was Bran doing all that time?
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I think he wargued the ravens to avoid an awkward conversation with Theon.
LOL
im going now
love it 🤣🤣
It’s comments like this that are the reason for comments on TH-cam
Lol
After 15 minutes of inactivity, Bran switches to screensaver mode.
That's a hit meme right there
Just give the ozz man his due.
Hilarious!
@@zechrojas2202 indeed Copyright :) Ozzyman inspires a lot of comments around here
Good one 😂😂😂😂😂
He was shopping for wheelchair designs in the past.
Bran was watching game of thrones when it had good writing and plot.
Or just Avengers Endgame.
Its hard putting all the blame on the writers when they ran out of source material...GRRM should take some of the blame for not finishing the books...
and now the pressure to make sure the WOW is spectacular because of how popular the series is who knows if we ever will get the last 2 books...I'm hoping that its completely different than the series...
@@lpellett429 you know what.. you're right it is George r.rs fault. He should start helping the writers with the writing no better yet he should just take over the show and the books cause it's too hard to come up with something of your own in an epic universe which has already been developed. Yea screw George hes soooooo lazy I mean it's not like quality work takes time or anything.
Now I know books got a lot of exposure thanks to the show but don't forget without the books there wouldn't be Game of Thrones.
"Was something going on we didn't see onscreen?"
Yes, everything.
Wheezing 😂
Lol
That goes for the people fighting aswell 😂
Wow, the writers are so smart, everything made sense they just explained it off screen and you have to be a super smart person to figure it all out
It's very subtle, but not ununderstandable, so it's ok. But you're right on one point. That lacks of evidence to be the real scenario at 100% chance. For now I just hope it is.
If there’s no twist coming up in the next 3 episodes, Bran is literally the most useless character in history...
I'd give that "honor" to the white walkers. They just stood around doing nothing and didn't even watch out for enemies and just let their king get killed. Bran at least talked and looked creepy...
Tyrion has been involved with two important conversations that we have no knowledge of as yet: one with Cersie at King's Landing and the other most significantly with Bran....
Maybe George doesn’t want to give too much away on the characters? I mean, we’re still waiting on the next book, and there’s still so much character development going on. I’m sure he’d rather save the best for the books than giving all the twists and surprises away 🤔
@@saammmy7 pretty funny isn't it? The 2 "biggest" characters with so much build up ended up being the most useless ones.
GRRM has stated 100 times that the show ending and books will only differ in detail of side characters and the depth of all the information. The major plot points for the ending ARE THE SAME. He said this in 3 separate interviews. This was Episode 3. That is not the ending. The ending WAS NEVER the NK. The last book is called DREAM OF SPRING. Obviously taking place after The Great Other is defeated. Everyone is so quick to shit on it when in reality it brings in 18 million viewers an episode. The most successful show of all time. GRRMA decided he couldn't finish the books before the show so he left it in the hands of D&D and entrusted them with the main plot of the remaining story. This idea it's bad is hilarious. The books are books. He has 1000 pages to go into the most microscopic detail. This is a TV show. It obviously is the broad strokes version. I mean come on people. I garuntee that there is a twist to come. Theres 4 hours left. Use logic.
Arya: Bran, what were you doing?!
Bran: Gendry was gentle with you that night...
Lmfao oh dear god
Lmao laugh so hard!!!!
I love that we're still trying to use logic and reason to understand the lazy writing of the show.
This concludes it all. Cant beliece people still protect them...
@@killerluuk People don't want to admit they wasted time and energy on idiots. Just look at Trump supporters for another example. Lol
Occam s razor
This guy is a flacid turnip.
We are trying to cope. It's part of the morning process. I'm still on step one: disbelief.
Wish he had told them how to organize a proper army formation. 😂
Wish he told D&D about good writing and good lighting
It all was part of the plan. Create a war strategy so pathetic and useless that the night king drops his guard.
Tiago Costa to be fair the only way they got the fire going on the barricade was through magic. I feel like any fire that was already going before the blizzard came wouldve been put out.
I redirect to the Video of Shadiversity. He explains the whole battle in detail.
@@thereverseeffect7269 Put on some halogen spotlights in the right places so the consumers of Hollywood action flicks could see better?
I came, i saw, i died
Night King.
Fk my generals
-NK
Smirked in the face of dragon fire as well.
Night King Caligula. The Wights have rolled. Seriously, they are rolling over the Humans. Its like fcking World War Z 😂
xDDD
Veni, Vidi, Mori.
You should do audio books, you have a great tonality for it.
Yes
He has his Well Told Tale channel.
Bran went to see 14, 000, 605 possible futures for the ending of GOT.
Joni Emrone and the ending is still shit
Putting more thought into the show than the writers.
@@zombi3lif3 well, like white walkers aren't dead. They're living beings, so you don't seem to have a basic understanding of the show, and your opinion is supposed to matter? Some genius ideas... Just leave? That's sounds like good television. The children of the forest are gone. And the battle you suggest is just lame as shit
"Dragon fire will stop him?” -> “I don’t know, No one’s ever tried.” I don't think Bran can see into the future.
Perhaps giving a straight answer would have changed the outcome to one that did not result in the night king reaching the weirwood as he had to
to be fair no one wouldve ever tried, the whole point is he is keeping the past and future secret to himself, he’s the three eyed raven, a spectator, he is not really Bran Stark anymore
He can't
Bran could have been cautious or may have even known that giving them the information that dragon fire will not kill the Night King could potentially change their actions in battle and so alter the outcome or timing. Ultimately, acting upon the future or vision that he has foreseen (the Night King may not be defeated as a result). Bran's / the 3ER's role seems to not inform anyone of his visions or knowledge.
Alternatively, Bran may genuinely not have seen the vision of Drogon's flame and the Night King and so he does not know if it will stop him eventhough he has most likely seen how the Night King will die. Interestingly, Bran declares that no one has ever tried, which seems very strange as you could argue that this means Bran has seen every single second of the Night King's life in visions for him to categorically state this. And there hasn't been enough time passed for Bran to have seen all of the Night King's life, or death if you will, unless visions don't use the same laws for time as the world he lives in. However, this line seems to buttress the idea that Bran has and is all of the previous Three Eyed Ravens' memories. Bran knows no one has ever attempted to burn the Night King with Dragonfire because all of the 3ERs' of the past have looked into the Night King's past.
Regarding Bran being able to see the future, in the show there is evidence that he can. The conversation with Jojen Reed declared that the 3ER can see things that haven't happened yet or the past or the present. Both Bran and Jojen say they have seen the 3ER and then that's when Bran asks Jojen can the 3ER see things that haven't happened yet? This seems the best evidence that Bran can now see visions of the future as we now know he is the 3ER.
Bran or the 3ER's vision of the destruction of the Great Cept of Baelor was the future, unless the series is not in chronological order because the Sept is destroyed in a later episode, after Bran saw the vision in a previous episode. It could technically be possible that in the timeline of the story the Sept was destroyed then Bran saw the vision meaning that episode 5 can technically occur the same time as episode 10. Though, I would say that this is unlikely as the majority of not the whole series appears to be told chronologically, as the viewer observes it. This most likely means the Sept/ wildfire vision is a vision of the future.
Furthermore, as stated in this video, the dragon flying over King's Landing has not yet occured. Although, I will accept that it is possible that this vision may not be of the future as we just haven't seen it yet in the show. It could potentially be of the past but it seems unlikely for a couple of reasons: King's Landing appeared largely the same indicating that it is not a vision of the distant past, this vision would be the only vision of the past that the viewers have not yet seen in the show meaning it is a statistical outlier and thus unlikely to be a vision of the past. This means it is most likely a vision of a potential future.
Goldflame33 but part of this theory was that the future was going to happen either way.
"You'll be waiting for him, and you'll be ready." Benjen Stark
Ready.... To die.
Bran worgd into George R R Martin to see if he had any ideas on how to save this train wreck
He found George thinking about a vacation in The Bahamas and gave up. He was hoping the Night King would kill him after that.
Bran knew how the TV series was going to end, so he worged into GRRM to make sure he's writing the final books to fit the TV series. The books were always going to end like the TV series, and now Bran has to make sure that happens.
this is genius :)
😂
Bran was watching Euron bork Cersei. Traumatized, he came back with the hopes of dying immediately but alas Arya foiled the Night King's efforts.
If he wasn't already traumatized by the shitty writing the finger in the bum has achieved it for sure ;)
"Cersi you looked so beautiful"
When Gendry talks to him, he says, "You loved my sister. You looked so beautiful that night."
He is one peeping tom for sure
😂😂😂😂😂
Bran warged into the ravens to pick up Arya, and fly her over the wights, before dropping her over the Night King.
yes I like this theory !!! thumbs up
Arya bomb
No. Arya is the 4th dragon. This is how she landed just behind the Night King
Except he wasn't warging at the moment.
God, I hope not. That would be awful!
I think Bran was using the ravens to call the Night King to him. The Night King knows Bran was in them. And he basically told him to “come and find me”.
hmm maybe
But wouldn't the NK say, hmmm, this could be a trick?
bran= 6 seasons finding the three eyed raven and training, having sick greenseer and warging powers.
> finding out the three eyed raven was only meant to be bait.
@PlayingToWinGaming
In the dark. Where no one can see, along with all the fighting.
@@jeckjeck3119 😂😂😂
Can't expect someone to be useful when he's always rolling his eyes.
But He can see the Future (Night King grabs his arm). HaHa! Thats why He told Theon _"I Need to be beneath the Weirwood."_ When Theon offered to be his honorary guard. *NOT!*
Because The Showrunners wern't smart enough to institute that Line. Similar to All this (Nonsense) -- _"He was created under A Weirwood, so He needs to die under A Weirwood."_ Which is 100% Happen stance! Cause Yet "apparently" its just the opposite to Kill or _"Uncreate."_ Who knew Dragon Glass is apparently the Opposite of Valyrian Steel (SMH).. Not regular Steel being polar of Valyrian... Nope! Nor Hydra Blood or even Mountain Rock being the opposite of Dragon Glass. *Of course Valyrian steel is the 180° polar opposite. LMAO!* Unsubbed..
yeah such attitude... like Stephanie Tanner always says... How rude!
teenagers smh
lol
😂
I think you’re giving the writers too much credit. I don’t think they give half of much thought to it as you do
it has to be done, show is pretty much retarded from now on
Yup and when Bran gives Arya that knife last season he clearly is surprised that she even came home and didn't go to kings landing as he thought she was. If he knew that she would be the one to kill the Night King in a few weeks, why did he expect her to be down at Kings Landing? The writers clearly are lazy and don't care about making sure the writing actually fits or makes sense, same as with changing the eye colors around after the fact to fit Melisandre's vision.
Yup.
Bluecrew27 exactly. When I heard the blue eyes thing in ep 3 I was like maaaaaan you think I’m retarded or something?
viejo I bet we see the last scene a new NK open its eyes an that piss me off so much. Because we know one faceless man can kill him.
thank you for an imaginative commentary that diverges from the easy plot hole nitpicking and insidious sarcasm that's going on all over the place
Something i realized is that Daenerys, Jorah and Arya came out of nowhere to save Jon, Daenerys and Bran, all major characters.
My theory is that he wasnt just looking around in a raven. But he was influencing Daenerys, Jorah and Arya.
Daenerys seemed off after she landed after she saved Jon.
She was stalling, seemed confused about what was happening.
Jorah came out of nowhere to save her. I thought that was off, since wights were everywhere around her, falling from Drogon in the air.
Arya began running right after she talked to Melisandra, but i think that Bran helped her figure out what Melisandra ment by Blue Eyes.
We have seen Bran influence someone before. Hodor in the past.
Benjin also said that Bran would be ready when the Night King was there. Might reference that he has figured out his abilities.
Would make sense that Bran had a plan, and needed specific people to survive, sacrificing Jorah and Theon to give two chances to kill the night king. Jon and Arya.
I see him as Three Eyed Raven not Bran Stark as he said it himself....that in mind, he took the throne he once held...throne of Westeros....Three Eyed Raven and Children of the Forest created the first white walker as defence....they lied to Bran until there was no more Bran inside his body that they are on the same side....but Three Eyed Raven and Children of the Forest are using white walkers as their army to rule over men in Westeros....that is why Three Eyed Raven said to Jon Snow "Why do you think I came all this way?" when asked if he would take the throne...Three Eyed Raven and Children of the Forest were waiting for the right opportunity to strike....why else would they hide north of the wall....if white walkers were the common enemy 8000 years ago why would Three Eyed Raven, Children of the Forest and Giants hide north of the wall....only explanation is that man were the enemy and since wall is made of ice it was build by white walkers and their magic to protect the north from human expansion....
We all know what Bran was doing...He was watching Avengers Endgame.
Thats a new one...
#HouseStarkSolidarity
Imagine starting your week with e3 and ending it with endgame. Week of disappointment
@@cc0767 endgame a disappointment?
sure it wasn't perfect, but come on... it was great!
well Thanos came and erased half of the universe while the Night King came to kill Theon Greyjoy.
I swear we always give WAY too much credit to the writers of the latter seasons
I believe it's called "writing the script for them".
Exactly. I remember reading all the theories about wtf was going on during the Arya plot where she gets stabbed by the waif, and saw so many different fascinating possibilities...turns out it was none of them. I've just given up on the writing being any good at this point
@@RaidsEpicly the Waif stabbed Arya in her thick plot armor
@@RaidsEpicly ty
It's called overanalyzing, happens a lot in movies, sometimes its fair, but with those D&D, they for sure don't deserve these credits
I think he was warging into anyone who was messing with their tv settings
Excellent explanation, so many of Bran's actions make more sense when put in this context.
Maybe he was teaching Arya how to fly?
Tosh Omni: Congrats on that comment, very sharp!
Yes remember Bloodraven told him he would fly - turns out through Arya!
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Tosh Omni the crows picked her up and dropped her off at the NK
arya was trained by Syrio in book is much detailed , she becomes shadow when she sneak, she run faster she jump like a deer ..she silent as a cat , she is a silent assassin , she have developed her sense in dark , she walks under kings' landing in dark she run to catch cats and try find a way out , she was prepared now i understand why no one heard arya in library :) she becoming shadow no one see her
He warged into the rat in avengers.
Loop ?
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@@Rilex037 Thanos dies
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@@rivermistfae Well Strange did encounter alternate dimensions in his travels.
I think the future is not carved in stones. If it would be, Bran woundn't have to do anything. He's like Dr. Strange. He saw a lot of variation of the acts, and he found this one the best.
Arya didn't sink the dagger into the Night King's heart. The Valerian steel shattered the dragon glass shard in his chest.
mike cal, cool theory!
@@HopeUnquenchable Thanks. My other theory is that when the Others were first created they could go anywhere. When they got out of control the Children of the Forest could not kill the Others, but the Children could curse them. Cursing them so the Others could only survive in cold temperatures. That killed most of them except for a few that escaped to the far north.
Arya: Bran what were you doing during the battle
Bran: I was watch-
Syrio: WaTcHiNg Is NoT SeEiNg!
Am I right in thinking that his being paralyzed might be a genuine excuse for his not being an active fighter. As it was he set himself as a bait for the NK... if this doesn't show a degree of courage what does?
@@deenick8794 no, your thinking is wrong.
Bran was tripping balls on acid. He is going to rehab in episode 4.
He's hooked on jojen paste
😭😂😩😂😂
Castle Betty Ford?
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 mmmm jojen paste yumm
You don't go to rehad for acid. Its non addictive. Even if you try to get addicted, you can't. Because its such an intense and long trip and you build tolerance very quickly.
I believe you are spot on with this theory. I assumed Bran went into the Ravens because for all of his stoicism he didn't want to litterally witness everyone around him dying, but since he grew up with Theon ( and yes Theon did screw Bran over once before, he now knows WHY and has forgiven him. So he jumped back into his body in time to clear Theon's conscience before he died. Bran hopping back in to his body to thank Theon gave Theon the motivation to try to take out the Night King since; in his way, Theon IS Bran's big brother for all intents and purposes, and he cares about-- EVEN LOVES Bran. This is shown all the way back in season 1 when Bran was almost attacked by Wildings on his first horse ride since his accident.
Excellent video!
I agree, he knew what was to happen and was making sure it went down as he thought.
You guys are far too generous. The audience shouldn't have to use their imagination to come up with better foreshadowing and storylines than the terrible TV writers D&D. It wasn't that throughout these guys just threw it together in a time crunch.
It's like theology. Something doesn't make sense, so we concoct insanely illogical explanations to make sense out of the nonsensical.
You didn't like their choices eh? :o)
GoT fans (and ASOIAF fans for that matter) have always used their imagination to fill in the blanks. Its nothing new
Yeah, it's just lazy writing, and he's trying to see a story line where there isn't one.
@@douglasquaid1711 Actually its a lot of people who are butt-hurt that their predictions were wrong, trying to pretend there is no story.
Yes, imagination. Something that all Hollywood writers are born without. All you need is rich parents with great show biz connections and Shazam, you’re a “screenwriter.”
HBO accidentally cut the power to bran when they turned off the lights
Bran is the most important character, everything happening is because of bran, since season 1. Bran is the first chapter George rr martin, says the idea of got started from Bran, so he just keep on wrote. It only makes sense for him to end up on the Iron Throne, Somebody who doesnt want it. Tho i really hoped that Bran is actually the night king going back in time atacking again weaken westeros and destroying everything. Or at least when they chose him for king and he sits on the iron throne his eyes turn blue and he raises all the dead in kings landing.
It was pretty clear dany would die, i am dissapointed that Jon stays alive tho, but bran Ending up on the throne i think its something that was writen in the first pages of got.
Thank you for your cool objective assessment of Bran's role and goings on. Good to hear your voice again.
Nothing. You are trying to find an explanation for poor writing.
@Alcathous, yours is the most intelligent comment here!I agree with you 100%. In Deep Geek is trying to sound all profound and poetic but the entire analysis makes absolutely no sense and is completely devoid of logic!!
did you actually watch the video? or are you just being one of those whiny little night king fanboys who won't stop crying about your hero dying and won't except any explanation for it?
Welcome to My Brain FINALLY someone is confronting these die hard NK fanatics.
Music & Whistle msk I'm a die hard ASOIAF fan and G R R Martin is one of my favourite authors, but discrediting a show based on their preconceived bias is just discrediting of the franchise as a whole
@Music & Whistle mskshut up you idiot I'm just a casual fan and agree the episode was poorly written. Die hard Fans like you who will blindly support the show no matter what, no point in arguing with. Almost scary.
Maybe the writers are not as clever as you might make them seem. Maybe he wasn't doing anything really.
HOW could they be not clever? 😱
General TV format is to drag out storylines that lead to....
nowhere.
That's where the evidence seems to point to.
Why would that be the case when Bran has always been doing things, which can't normally be seen by an outside observer?
And all the points he makes are pretty obvious, i.e. that Bran pondered the significance of the dagger when he got it, drew attention to Arya's decision to come home rather than going immediately to Kings Landing, gave the dagger to Arya in front of the Weirwood tree, and made sure he was in front of the Weirwood tree when the NK came. The defeat of the NK was mainly Bran's victory, in that he set it up, and his sister carried it out.
@@mikem9001 That is all conjecture.
An intelligent, calm and respectful analysis. Thank you InDeepGeek. 👍
With the way D & D have been writing these last 2 Seasons so far, there is no explanation to what Bran was doing.
He was basically not doing anything, he was just observing the battle lol.
I'm just not confident in D&D's abilities to pull any of this off. They clearly retconned the blue eyes prophecy and started foreshadowing her killing the NK in season 7 once they decided fan service > story telling
Read Vladimir fudik twitter and you'll feel more satisfied
@@melkor6339 that is not real. That's a fan account trolling us.
Zech Rojas ---really ? Damn....count me as fooled haha !
Prophecies.....are....difficult to read
Jon killing the Night King would have been fan service as well.
The last episode has shattered my imagination; he probably wasn't doing anything.
I think Bran was doing what I've been doing since episode 3: watching Arya stick it to the Night King in futuristic instant replays pausing only to catch the live version when it finally happened. No wonder he seems so calm throughout-he's already seen the spoiler!
“murder of crows” an “unkindness of ravens” geez these birds pissed off the wrong ornithologist
Marieda Parellio it’s actually a conspiracy or ravens
@@westcoastweird455 Even worse lol
I think he was the "camera", showing us what was happening around Winterfell. We see him warg into the ravens and then after the shot changes, and it carries on till the end where he awakens and faces the Night King.
Yeah, I think that is it. He is supposed to be the person who knows all history, so I think he was just 'recording' the battle from many different perspectives so future people know what happens(as well as the audience, hence the camera thing).
wow had to watch a 12 minute video and still did not get an actual answer outside of the obvious.... when i could have just read this comment.... fuck this channel lol.
Superb answer , that’s it , that’s exactly it 👍🏼
When so many thought Bran could be the NK he is actually Lakitu!!!
In Deep Geek: *a well thought out analysis of what Bran might've been doing....Dan and Dave: "It looked cool so we did it."
Isaac: "There's no directions or dialogue for my character in this script. What am I supposed to do?" Dan and Dave: "IDK man, just like stare at people like a creep or something??"
I heard all these different theories around Star wars, and look how that turned out?! Brans character will just fizzle out, with no real explanation for anything
I think he warged to the crows to get a better view of the battle because the cinematography sucked.
The cinematography was perfect. You clearly know nothing about film and direction.
@@lukewarmape603 dark, close up, shaky cam shots that last two seconds so you aren't really sure who's fighting and whatever else is exactly going on in the scene. Yeah, sounds genius. You're right!
Da219StarWarsGuy it was shot from the perspective of battle. You think suddenly fighting an army of the undead in pitch black is going to be slow, focused and fluid?
No.
You would be confused, scared, agitated and completely oblivious to pretty much everything that’s not directly infront of you. That’s exactly how you feel watching it. Brilliant direction and cinematography.
@@lukewarmape603 so you just admitted it was unfocused and too dark. Stop defending it as great cinematography already. You clearly know nothing of battles, strategy and framing shots correctly.
@@Da219StarWarsGuy I did admit it yes, but I didnt say it wasnt used well. You can use these things to your advantage, which Sapochnik clearly uses brilliantly. He is hands down the best Game of Thrones director, no competition.
Explain why I know nothing and I might listen to your "argument", which has been pathetic so far btw.
My problem with Brann’s actions, and this seems to be a theme in this episode, is that those details were incredibly vague. Let’s assume you’re 100% right. There still should have been a payoff. Brann was built up to be so important, and were left actually having to assume his intentions and connecting the dots after the Night King is gone. This episode was a leaky balloon of storytelling
you want to get everything spelled out for you?
@@Johnnythefirst it's called having a character arc paid off after 7 seasons. All of that amounted to him warging into ravens like he's been doing throughout the past 3 seasons.
@@wheretheweirwoodgrows4746 wait until the series is finished before you do this ;-)
@@Johnnythefirst the thing is his whole arc was centered for the walkers. Not the war of men. If NK coming back is the 3rd twist then I'll take everything back.
@@wheretheweirwoodgrows4746 or the one who kills him becoming the new one...
Thanks for the theory, it was really frustrating to not know what Bran was up to that whole time, since it seemed his time to shine.
Bran checkmated the NK by just sitting there. He did not look the least bit worried even at the end. Even the NK gave him a look of bewilderment because Bran felt no fear.
nothing special is happening this season we should stop making good theories because it looks like a shity writing season
I agree, all these theories are just defending abysmal writing
Yep... Benioff and Weismann built the 8th season up and are too rich too care. They have run out of ideas and even up until now they were copying Lord of the Rings. They want to wrap it up and move on as Got has run its course.
Episode V - we are now being told that the 5th episode is more dramatic than the Battle for Winterfell.
Yes, the Game of Thrones is cyclical. No doubt there will be something happening I the Land of Always Winter.
I agree, we should definitely stop making theories
That's why the are so many mistakes, everybody's like, "feck it - the audience's gonna watch it all anyway"
I can't accept that they placed all these hints about time travel for the last 10 years, just to ruin it in the final season with bad plot writing.
I want to believe that there is a TOP SECRET 7th episode, and they gonna blow our minds!
I want to believe!
The truth is G.R.M. hasn’t finished the last 2 books and probably never will so D. & D had to come up with an ending and this is what we got. The knight king isn’t even in the books he was created for the show.
To be fair there will probably be a centralized leader in the books for the White Walkers unless Azor Ahai is meant to kill all white walkers.
@@Alan-wj5zc He might be. Rather than Azor Ahai personally killing the white walker leaders, it could be he is the one that unites everyone together to fight off the white walker.
In the show they killed one white walker and the entire undead army fell. Though honestly, I think it would of made far more sense if each white walker was their own person, and each controlled a section of the undead army. In that way you don't have to literally kill all the undead, if you slay most of the white walker generals, it will greatly reduce their strength. Which seems to be implied in the book. In the book the undead army was defeated a long time ago, which makes no sense if they killed the Night King, and they wouldn't have won if the Night King was still alive.
Rather I would suggest the people in the past killed most of the white walkers and the remaining fled.
Mini dragon glass spears ... strapped to ravens ... bird bomb Night King ... mini poison spears .. bird bomb Cersei ... game over.
He can also warg into people. Cerseis Hand of the queen comes out to negotiate, walks back to...
With that logic, how are you not sitting on the Iron Throne ? Sounds way more plausible than what Dumb & Dumber came up with.
This theory of bran setting up scenarios (yet letting history play out) and the moment him and the night king share right before arya's attack (an interesting look they give eachother). I have a theory that bran and the night king have been playing a game (a game of thrones) and this is only one iteration of that game. That is why bran mostly lives in the past and why he has said things like - "no one has ever (tried) dragon fire before". Just a theory though 😁
I'm going to miss your Game of Thrones theories and overviews once the show is finally over. I'm hoping you'll continue to discuss the books at least, I really enjoy your channel. Congrats on 100k, by the way. Couldn't have happened to a better channel/guy!
Prequel to game of thrones is supposed to come out new show called “the long night” more than likely hell be covering it
@@rockywoo96 Oh yeah, forgot about that!
@@rockywoo96 So glad the prequel isn't Robert's rebellion, that would have been so boring to watch.
Id have been so disappointed in the show 🤦🏻♂️
Pretty sure Bran said that he can see all events present and past. I don’t think he can see into the future
Maybe people are just thinking too deep into. Maybe hes just warged so he can observe the actual battle going on. Not like he has other useful things to do. He tell people info and they use it, thats what ge does. What to people expect him to do? Fight? Tell theon the magical secret to beat the NK? Hes exhausted his role. He dispensed information to people and now it was thier turn to do what they do
Yeah, it seemed like more of a one time thing (if the dragon over kings landing even was the future)
In Jojen's greendreams he foresaw his own death, and he only had a fraction of Bran's power. Past, present, and future, these all the same to a weirwood.
@@michaelstalkfleet6989 that leads me to another question. Where is house Reed. Ned starks best friend and his house are pretty not even in the show other than the 2 kids.
@@anthonyarena487 Howland knows too much, so he can't show up until the final act or he would reveal too much. And there aren't that many Reeds to begin with. And they are a stand-in for the CoTF: we only see a couple of them on screen (but that doesn't mean they are all gone), and they have to remain secretive, they live in secret towns, they remember ancient lore, they have greensight and other magical abilities, and have a defense pact with the Starks, and there is something deeper going on with them.
Thank you at last someone who explained what was really going on.
Well... I thought that was an excellent discussion; and your ideas are very well thought out and supported. Please keep it up... I very much enjoy your conversations. Don't listen to the haters.
@N.A.R Channel Not haters, but people who lazily say "bran really wasn't doing anything" when it is clear that he was
@@mikem9001 it's pretty clear he truly wasn't doing anything.
@@Pwn3dbyth3n00b Really - based on what? The fact that you don't want him to? The fact he didn't stand up and swing a sword? And after all, we know that Bran has no powers that can be exercised whilst sitting in a chair - right? lol
@@mikem9001 what if... i know this might be crazy but hear me out but, what if... bad writing *BOOM* MIND BLOWN.
@@rrbt95 what if... i know this might be crazy but hear me out but, what if... good writing and incredibly incompetent critique BOOM MIND BLOWN
Any time someone mentions Bran and Hodor, I can't help but think, "I no longer feel so bad about Hodor accidentally banging Bran's head against the tops of door frames when in a hurry." Poor Hodor...
Anyway, awesome breakdown. I stayed away from GoT channels for years to avoid spoilers, but as it's last season I wanted to see other people's thoughts. Your channel has become a fast favorite. Thanks for the content!
Ma'am, the writers will actually do the opposite to things are mentioned in the theories, no prince promised, Bran is still siting in a wheel chair watching the End game.
He had his ravens carry aryia 60 feet to drop her on the NK
Arya ran by the white walkers on the ground
Wrong! Arya is the 4th Dragon. That's how she landed just behind the Night King
jebes909090 nah she bran warged for her. An at the end of the show it will show the ravens tie roap around bran wheel chair. An fly him north so he can fly like he was promised an he will become next NK. Aryia will be dead by time he comes south again.
Two ravens could carry her between them on a line. African ravens could do it, but they're non-migratory.
Totally agreed. I think we miss out on a lot with it being tv instead of a book and we can't get Bran's inner thoughts as in the books
I don't give any credit to D&D, this is just incredible lazy writing...hope i'm wrong but i probably won't be.
This proves that you don’t need brains to get rich, just Connections.
Bran to the Night King: 'Yoo-hoo! I'm over in the Godswood.'
"Just sitting in a chair over here unable to move. Protected by people the God of plot deems to die......."
If that’s true then Bran is a jerk. So Bran outsmarted a 8,000 year old greenseer with similar power. The NK mastered those powers. Bran didn’t and now Bran can beat the NK? Sure.
The three eyed raven is Bryden Rivers. Look that up. He is NOT more powerful than the white walkers!
The night king would’ve guarded that cave with more than 5 skeletons! So the night king was just a second rate, cartoon villain! Nice to know.
Bran got outsmarted by the night king twice and had a few weeks to plan this out. The night king only had 8,000 years to plan his war out and he gets defeated in his first battle over the wall.
They killed the entire story! Arya is dues ex machina and the fake out deaths were silly! That’s NOT ASOIAF/GOT! That’s cliche garbage fantasy.
They Snoked the Night King. Stop making up excuses for bad writing! Arya just learned about the wight walkers one episode ago.
Melisandre’s prophecy was talking about HUMAN eyes! Not night king eyes. You’re saying Melisandre knew Arya would end the long night in season 2? Lol.
So Mel just lies to Stannis, had people burned alive for fun, including Shireen.
Then she brings Jon back to do nothing and tells him he will end the long night and kill the night king. D&D-Dumb and Dumber pulled that out of their rear! Now Bran has a GPS on the NK? Foh.
This episode was stupid. The NK could’ve flew by and burned Bran & then fought Jon and Davy’s dragon. Why didn’t he raise the dead? Why didn’t the NK just have the wights swarm and capture Bran? This is garbage. Bran was doing nothing and Arya is a invincible god now. Sure. :/
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Actually yeah she (Melissa sea) did know or had a hint at the time, she obviously knew come the long night. The writers even said they’ve been setting it up since almost the begging and knew all this time it’d be her too kill him
Best explanation I've heard. "Waiting for an old friend."
Also, "seeing" into future could mean ... no one has ever tried to burn the NK with dragon fire... thus Bran wouldn't know if he could be. He isn't "All Seeing".
Perfectly said Robert, that was my train of thought. Like you say, not exciting but it I think that’s what was going on👍🏻
I think raven simulator 2000
Joao Lobo hahaha yes !
He was looking up x rated stuff on the internet. He is staring at people weird because he has seen them all naked. He smiled at Danny..think about it...
Pretty sure that he warged into Drogon the episode before to watch Jon boning Dani.
@Sky Dome I'm sold on that 😁
You need to stop watching Talking Thrones! 😂
ShanghaiRooster I don’t watch Talking Thrones
Dude your voice is crazy relaxing! I’d listen to it to help go to sleep or calm down and stuff it’s awesome
Amazing story telling Robert. Excellent work!
"What was bran doing?"
I can tell u exactly what he was doing.......
Nothing,........next.
he was doing his best.
Mystic Legion right like wtf😂😂😂
@@hinglemcgringleberry Was he?
It would literally be as easy as:
"Dont run your infantry men into darkness because only stupid commandedrs would do that"
I can do what he did with a tab of acid and an ancient oak in Wistman's wood.
Yes, let's just pretend there were no issues with the last episode and let's just keep creating more theories. You are a true fan, Deep Geek!
I just love pretending that it was brilliant strategy to put the catapults in the front line. Oh and I just imagine that they put the army behind the defensive spikes and not in front of it! Everything is better when I just ignore the flaws and pretend they are not there!
The best analysis of Bran!
Thank you for the video, i have a wild / outlandish thought in that it goes a bit beyond Bran worging into the ravens, but into the Night King himself, to make sure he makes it to the Godtree.
Even more left field, is that somehow their is a slim chance that Bran becomes the next Night King in the frozen north. - wild speculation, but lets hope Ep4 tells us something interesting!
Congratulations on 100k!
The Night King doesn't get stabbed in the same spot tho? The stab is nowhere near his heart.
It’s In the heart
That's the only issue I take with this video. Obviously it didn't have to go in at exactly the same place as the dragonglass shard did, to be effective, but I agree with all of the other elements stated as necessary for the NK's undoing.
This was best theory I've heard on any got topic
I agree with you. Bran has learned how to tap into other people’s conscience without warging into their bodies; because of what he did to Hodor. Bran/3ER sent for Uncle Benjen to save him and Merea. Also he sent Uncle Benjen to save Jon Snow when he went to get the wight. Bran sent the dragon and/or Dany to save Jon during the battle of Winterfell. Jon’s has not completed his purpose.
Bran doesn’t know how to change the future yet, he still learning. The old vision of King Landing been destroyed by the dragons didn’t take place because Jaimie killed the Mad King. If you look, you will see that Cersei have changed that throne room. Bran is studying the past.
S8 E1 Bran/3ER was using crows to spy on Sansa when she was talking to Tyrion and Lord Royce.
This is genius.. using Bran to explain every bullshit-plot-convenience-bad-snippet of awful writing there is in these episodes.
Thank you Robert, I love how in depth your videos are, and have been waiting for someone to talk about this. Did anyone also notice the long look Tyrion and Bran shared at the start of the episode? Or the very long look between Bran and the Night King? I felt as though there was something there... some uncertainity about something between them in that moment?
Robert is off in this one (rare I know). A closed time loop means Bran is not manipulating or pushing events to happen a certain way. He is just doing what he was always going to do and they were always going to happen that way. There is no other option. Hence closed time loop. The future is as fixed as the past. He always saw the future. He always handed her the knife. He was always aware he knew the future and his part in it. However is there literately no choice in a system like this. Closed time loop means no other possible outcomes.
You can't change the past, just create it. He created Hodor, up til that point Hodor would have been a normal kid, and only because of time travel we have Hodor.
Bran can't see the future as was indicated by his statement he didn't know if dragonfire could kill the Night King. I can't think of any situation that proved he can (we only have theories that he can, but they can be explained by his knowledge of what has happened, not what will).
Giving the blade to Arya was because he knew she was a trained killer, nothing more. You even prove it with your point that he was surprised she came home (last he knew, she was at the crossroads - an event from the past - he didn't know she changed her mind because he doesn't know the future and he has to "see" the past to know it, he's not all knowing).
If hodor had been a normal kid up until that point, Hodor would never have been in close contact with bran in the first place, so the future in which bran time travels back into hodor would never happen. So either the future is set and bran was meant to travel back in time to ''create'' hodor, or the situation would never have happened. So no, you can't ''create'' the past, nor can you change it. It was already meant to happen from the beginning.
Bran might have also been happily surprised to see Arya appear because it meant that the future he had been working towards (by manipulating key players over the years) will come to be.
@@plop833 I can accept your last sentence with one caveat - Who is manipulating who - If it was already meant to happen - is Bran being manipulated by a greater power?
I agree Gary. If as Robert claims, this is a closed time loop. Than Bran is not doing anything to affect the outcome, it was always going to happen that way. And that would include whether he sees what's going to happen or not.
If we want to make a claim about Bran affecting the course of events. Then it's better to describe what he sees as a kind of "possible future" rather than one that will happen for certain. So it's potentially a vision of one of many futures. Like seeing ahead in a chess game of what certain combinations of moves could result in.
But this can't be the actual future. Just an imagined one. If it's the actual future and a closed time loop, then nothing anyone chooses to do is contextually correct. There are no choice. It's all pre determined. It's fixed. No variables.
@@caryg9821 The hodor event was meant to happen because bran was still learning how to do his craft. He wasn't in control yet. As such it's a closed time loop. Later in the show, he seems to have changed, and be in possession of enough knowledge to make potential predictions of what the future might hold. However this is based on the assumption that either people don't have free will or people simply don't have enough impact to change the future with their choices.
So the only point of interest is, does Bran have a free will? If not, no one is manipulating anyone when looking at it from the largest scale. Everyone is simply doing what they were meant to be doing given the initial set of events. Every ''choice'' is just an illusion resulting from a lack of knowledge of what's already pre determined to happen.
But what if Bran does have a free will. What if everyone has free will only we lack the knowledge to have a big enough impact to change the future by ourselves? Like, knowing a glass will break if you let it fall to the floor might prevent you from deciding to drop it in the first place. However if you don't have the knowledge, you never have a reason to doubt your initial decision to drop the glass. So given a certain amount of knowledge, potential choices arise. Bran certainly has enough knowledge to actually have an impact to change the future. He knows what will happen if certain events do not happen. So from this point on, his choices actually have an impact on the future and would imply that Bran is actively manipulating people around him, such that the future that he wants to happen, happens.
It's about as irrelevant for Arya to know whether bran is doing all of these things (because bran will manipulate her regardless), as it is for us to know whether bran is being manipulated by a greater power (because that greater power will manipulate bran/us regardless). So I don't really see the reason in asking that question. It might give us more insight as to whether bran has a free will or not, but it won't change anything about what's about to happen. It's irrelevant.
So yeah, I hope that answers your question.
Brilliant!
"I wonder if the writers knew that Bran was manipulating them as well?"
His slight hesitation in letting go of the dagger was telling in hindsight
He still had slight doubt and his brotherly feelings were still there
How can both parts of your theory be true - that the future is always fixed and that Bran was influencing actions to ensure this outcome. If the first is true, then there could never be any other outcome than Arya killing the NK. Bran didn’t need to do anything or wait anywhere. What am I missing?
Indeed, the totally predestined closed loop doesn't work like that. Bran didn't need to do a single thing in that case. Arya would have always chosen to go home, and end up killing the NK.
If it's a probability space, that's a different matter. In that case, Arya at the crossroads was probably the most pivotal moment in the series. She actually had a choice and it could have gone either way. Since she chose to go home, that opened the space to her killing the Night King, provided a few other subtle things also fell into place. Chiefly Bran giving her the dagger, but also people like the Hound not totally effin' everything up.
I also like everyone's theory that Bran could not tell Dany dragonfire would be ineffective - because then she wouldn't have tried. Only by not telling her did he open the possibility that she would try. So there's a beautifully warped logic puzzle in there. Bran can know but not tell, because telling would lead to him not knowing, and then he wouldn't know and couldn't tell. (I have to lie down now.)
I don't think Hodor was always going to " hold the door".. He was a normal boy and bran meddled in his memory and he heard Meera screaming it and has a seizure. I took that as Bran changing the course of history
Frank Latorre he wasn’t CHANGING the course of History. He was making sure whatever was written remained written. The ink is already dry. He cannot change what is done.
Frank Latorre The past is already written. The ink is dry. Bran always had warged in to Hodor at that moment hence the close loop. This was supposed to happen.
@@lucxsramxs I don't understand how this works when Bran was born after Hodor?
This video gave me a different perspective of s8e3, I feel better now, thanks!
Reminds me of a song that has nonsensical lyrics but everyone has a theory involving some deep profound meaning ,when the real answer is the songwriter was just piss drunk and thought it sounded cool .
TheDaro7 you talking about Pearl Jam Yellow Ledbetter
Goo Goo G'joob
The real shame is D&D having to finish the series without GRR wonderful words. You can tell the early eps the dialogue was so amazing and now they have to swing it. I am not saying that the show is not amazing but I wish they could have waited until the books were completed. Either way, best show EVER!
*20 years later* Get ready for Game of Thrones season 6 guys! The book is finally out! Now only 2 years to film it and air it xD Oh wait all the actors are too old for the parts now... um... recast and redo the whole show guys! And then wait fifteen years for the next book and do it all again!
xD For real though. There was no way they could wait and still be a tv show. They had to keep going. And if you look at it from a show-only viewpoint it's fine. It's when you try comparing it to the books that it falls short and will ALWAYS fall short because no matter what the books are always going to be better than the show/movie. Always.
Nothing the showrunners couldnt think of anything for him to do after leaving the cave
Bran could have stabbed the Night King in the back with Dark Sister, while Arya distracted him. But NO, GoT couldn't think of this.
@@rexracer3221 or night king could have had some sort of fight with someone.... Like he is this crazy powerful figure it would've made sense if he put up a but of a fight
It would have made more sense for Bran to have a hidden dagger then stab the NK with it than have Arya sneak past 500 wights and half a dozen Walkers then seemingly jump out of nowhere to stab the NK
And we get a lot of people saying that Arya deserved to do it as she trained as an assassin. But what assassin have you ever heard of that screams a battle cry before killing someone?
Bran warged into George R.R. Martin to see if he could save the ending of Game of Thrones. He found George planning his next vacation to The Bahamas. “Night King, kill me! Arya, forget about the Night King, stab those two screenwriters! Hurry!”
Remember, early on the Hound taught Arya where the heart is, and told her that's where she should strike.
And Bran did fly. He warged into one of Dany's dragons, and had that dragon carry Arya so she could jump the Night King and "unmake" him. (A dragon would not have otherwise carried Arya because she is not a Targaryen.)
Sorry but this is all grasping at straws when it comes to the tv show, everyone just hoping there is some explanation for what is just lazy writing.
Yeah, I think that's the ultimate truth here. We all imagine scenarios far smarter and better executed than the people making the actual show are planning.
He warged into a raven to drop Arya at the perfect spot at the perfect time.
Doesnt even matter how high up she was because NK would just catch her.
Yeah, this keeps happening. Like a couple seasons back when Arya was just walking around openly in Braavos and let herself get stabbed by the Waif. People were theorizing all kinds of twists to make sense of that, because there was no way the writers had made Arya so stupid and careless. They just had to have some clever trick up their sleeves waiting to be revealed. But nope... Exactly as straightforward as it initially looked.
I don't agree. Not everyone has the same perception. Sorry, but if someone else sees within deeper levels ans it's not me it's fine personnally. It's there to see, intended or not.
have you read ideasoficeandfire? He does some good GoT rant videos:)
I honestly believe that during “The Long Night” prequel series we will see Bran.
AmargaVida that would blow my mind because that’s what I imagined reading the books, that Bran went all the way back to prevent the NK from being created and thus actually creating him. But I don’t think they show will have that. It’s too awesome.
I gave all my Game of Thrones books to the Library yesterday. It felt great!
54markl But yet you are on here 🤔
But Arya dropped the knife caught it with her right hand and plunge it into the Night King stomach not his heart.
My thoughts exactly...unless the Night King's heart sank when he realized Arya's hand caught the blade. Lol.
Rocky Mountain Ras, good one 😄
Isn’t the handle of the dagger made of dragon bone, not dragon glass?
Music & Whistle msk ...it’s both.
Yeah they said it was decorated in dragon glass. Not that the handle was a solid piece of it
He said "dragon glass decorated", not "made of"
Lady Smokesalot, to be fair, he doesn't say that the hilt is *made* of dragonglass. @5:15 "Littlefinger shows the Valyrian steel blade AND the dragonglass-decorated hilt..." so, it can still be made of dragon bone, even though it's decorated or overlaid with dragonglass.