Well captured footage. Funny, looks like class 68 and class 92 had a baby and this is the result. Like I feel when class 92 came out, it was an electric version of a class 60, saying that both were built by Brush.
@@KadinoTheDumplingPeople always reject modernity... And over time you will see people love those trains and then hating the next. It will always end the same.
Really glad to see the 93 starting to be put on the mainline. As much as I like the class 66 and as good and reliable as they are; there are numerous routes that class 66's and 37's do everyday 100% under over head lines. Can't wait to see more electrics on the network!
Still like to watch/hear the old Tractors growling around the network. The sound of that lazy EE power unit is so iconic. Much more evocative than screamy, modern 2-strokes. Will the acquisition of the 93s spell the end for ROG's 37??
For a dual mode that is impressive, though not sure how useful that small diesel+ battery is going to be for anything other than the loco moving itself around.
@mrvwbug4423 It is a 32 litre CAT V12 engine of 1,200hp, plus there's an additional 500hp available from the traction batteries. It should be more than enough for hauling a load off the juice to a depot or between electrified sections like between Crewe and Newcastle via Hexham.
It’ll be interesting to see how the 93s perform. Personally I look forward to seeing them around the network, even if it does mean the probable end of the ROG 37s.
Superb video ! Technical question....what focus settings are you using? Just bought a new camera (Sony RX10M4) and trying to get a handle on the best settings for moving trains...especially when they're moving away from you and go behind a signal post or OHL mast. Keep up the good work.
A few companies have looked at this kit at Worksop and so far most have not been impressed but the proving trials from crew may change this. Most say they will sit on the fence until the 99 arrives. We will see.
Horses for courses. The 99s are a 75mph 6 axle freight only loco, the 93s are a 110mph 4 axle loco for both passenger and freight. The dual mode on both is only really suitable for moving very light loads.
@@mrvwbug442399s, however, could be somewhat useful as (at-rail) they have 1600kW on diesel. For context, a 66 puts down 1850kW (and the 99 has the advantage of AC motors), so I reckon they wouldn't be too dire
Good stuff as usual. I'm Not sure about the 93..it looks fragile, unlike the 37 dragging it. That's me at 06:35 with the tan boots on platform 12!😁👍🏻👋 (@TLGvideos)
Simple answer: NO! There is just too much tech incorporated in to modern traction that becomes obsolete in a relatively short space of time. The Class 37 is just a no frills solid workhorse - reliable as hell even if it can be somewhat uncomfortable to work.
What is the reason for a carriage either side of the loco? - I’ve seen this on other delivery videos of sets such as the metro etc - obviously a reason for it - just don’t know why 😀
One of the oldest (and best?) Locos on the network hauling the newest locos on the network,interesting! But don't know why they couldn't keep 86,87,90,s going😢
What is the intent of this loco, as it seems there are many TOC's in the UK which seen to use mases of various built different loco's. There is plenty of other available traction which is under used than to buy, operate and maintain another version. It makes no sense these days in the UK why with all this private ROC's which we know doesn't work. We need to go back to when it was controlled by one body and a few type of locomotives to run what we need.
The freight TOCs actually work, particularly since they own their own equipment. A lot of locos are getting old and worn out, and need to be replaced, they may as well consolidate on fewer types of locomotives than they have now
hi great video, another loco designed by clowns, no opening window for the driver, why do we need the contraptions when there are 86s standing around ?
you a bit late for that all the FL 86s got exported last year and 86s aren't dual modes so you would still need to have diesel locos around for anything non electrified where as these can effectively do the job of both. also pretty sure the windows on the cab doors do open
I don't think that you will be the only one bud.... I saw it leaving Portbury docks a few months ago on the back of a low loader. I think it was on its way up to Leicester. And I don't think that it will last as long as the 37.
Lovely colour, certainly better than most of the liveries today. I don't want to go down the political rabbit hole here but the only thing I will say that it's sad that Britain who once was a great manufacturer nation now has to get things built overseas be it the EU or elsewhere.. No doubt some company accounts are pleased at how many cans of beans they saved.
Its a basic machine with no frills that bit is wearing or breaks you can see it fix it have it back in action its got very little built in obselecence like the Douglas C47 two radials go on for ever fly it acros the US on one engine .. the clas 37 and for that matter the 43-44's were reliable not pretty and no frills its all got far too electronic for its own good
@@andrewreynolds4949 is that relevant ? They are still flying them commercial Buffalo Airways up in the north of Canada because there is nothing else !! That does the duty bear in mind the first C 47 went into service 1936 20 + years before the Class 37 first came off the build line . Im just saying its basic like a morris 1000 thats why the operators are still hiring them
@@andyrichards2569 If someone is still using their Ford model T for daily use (and I have seen this) it doesn't mean it's a good car anymore. The same is true for trains, and for the C47. Yes there is an operator still using it, which I have heard of, but that's because of the very niche requirements they have: extremely simple and reliable, rather than efficient or capable, for use in the Canadian wilderness where fixing things is very difficult
enjoy to see them, they will be pulled out of service in 2 years, because they are crap.... low quality and unreliable... a normal thing in Tory England! wasting money is the best they can do!
@@TrainSimEnjoyer are they made in the UK, so its crap nobody else will buy, but the Brits.... no wonder they have no money for HS2, they got bribed so hard to get this junk!
Nice to see 37 still working main line like the old days great stuff mate
Well captured footage. Funny, looks like class 68 and class 92 had a baby and this is the result. Like I feel when class 92 came out, it was an electric version of a class 60, saying that both were built by Brush.
I was trying to think what it reminded me of definitely class 60 vibe in there then again 68 and 92 looking at it again
Maybe because the 93 originates from the 88 which is similar to the 68
Fantastic capture there!! God I love the sound of the 37 roar 🤤
But this one hasn't got the usual EE power unit I believe??
It’s got a class 60 engine in it.
In this vid - 425 has an EE engine.. 901 a Mirrlees 👍
The 37 steals the show ? Love that livery.
As ever they are awsome
Superb, I can't wait to see it actually in traffic. Great catch going viral by the look of things. Cheers.
Hopefully the testing progresses quickly.. There are plenty more of these produced and waiting to be shipped to the UK 👍
That's something pretty special to see.thankyou for posting 😊
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
I love the Class 37 footage. Maybe the 93's will grow on me in the future. Great video and thanks for sharing!
Will it last as long as the superior piece of kit that’s pulling it around? Or will it end up being sold abroad in the next decade?
gone within 20 years lol
Why so negative?
@@KadinoTheDumplingPeople always reject modernity... And over time you will see people love those trains and then hating the next. It will always end the same.
I used to drive class 37’s and they are very far from being a ‘superior piece of kit’ 😂😂😂😂😂
@@22pcirish why?
Great stalking - and great footage! Was watching on Railcam but missed the arrival. Lovely looking beast that!
That's a very Smart Loco 93001 also 37425 giving it some Through Stafford great video
0:44 Amazing two tone
Lovely shots of the 37s. Nice video!
The RR livery on a 37 is always nice to see.
Lovely to see Concrete Bob still hard at work and looking and sounding splendid.
Giving it some on the way out of the station 👍👍
Nice start to the week that was 👌👍
Really glad to see the 93 starting to be put on the mainline. As much as I like the class 66 and as good and reliable as they are; there are numerous routes that class 66's and 37's do everyday 100% under over head lines. Can't wait to see more electrics on the network!
The 93s are for ROG, its the class 99s that'll be on freight under GBRf iirc
37s dont do much nowadays. all they really do is deparmental stuff like test trains
Nice catch
Good catch
This is very well put together and brilliant footage, thanks for sharing and I've subscribed to for more 😊
Thanks very much 🙏👍
i already like it. Hoping to see more footage soon!
Mainline tests should start in Feb so shouldn’t be too much longer to wait 👍
1:24 that 37 seems in an excitable mood given the tones it gave do love a good 37 tho nowt like a 37s rumbly growling racket
I actually see 37425 going over the viaduct at Cogload Junction whilst working 6C28 Exeter Riverside to Whatley with 59104.
Well caught
God, slug one sounds so good passing Stafford!
Fantastic footage well done keep it up bye for now Philip
awesome thx for the post have a great day 😊😊👍👍.
Thanks - Have a good day also 👍
Still like to watch/hear the old Tractors growling around the network. The sound of that lazy EE power unit is so iconic. Much more evocative than screamy, modern 2-strokes.
Will the acquisition of the 93s spell the end for ROG's 37??
No. Two are likely to work with ROG alongside the 37s, the rest are intended to go out on hire to other operators.
37901 has a mirlees engine, just saying. .....
Saw this Monday morning at Sheffield 👀
Something nice to sit in sidings for Years, once the class 60s have gone.
6200HP on AC, impressive.
For a dual mode that is impressive, though not sure how useful that small diesel+ battery is going to be for anything other than the loco moving itself around.
@mrvwbug4423
It is a 32 litre CAT V12 engine of 1,200hp, plus there's an additional 500hp available from the traction batteries. It should be more than enough for hauling a load off the juice to a depot or between electrified sections like between Crewe and Newcastle via Hexham.
@@mrvwbug4423 Combined with the battery, it's about the same power as a 37 / type 3.
For freight rail, 1200 hp really isn’t much
Excellent video 👍
Well done video and catch
Very nice.
Great to see it
Finally a new train since 2019
Stadler makes the best stuff
Let's hope it last more that a decade it looks great like the old electric locos of 60 70
It’ll be interesting to see how the 93s perform. Personally I look forward to seeing them around the network, even if it does mean the probable end of the ROG 37s.
That 37 was a way sharpish by it's self
Excellent video! Class 93s look great! 👍
Why is a DRS 37 in Regional Railways livery?
Superb video ! Technical question....what focus settings are you using? Just bought a new camera (Sony RX10M4) and trying to get a handle on the best settings for moving trains...especially when they're moving away from you and go behind a signal post or OHL mast. Keep up the good work.
I only use the stock settings on my camera to be honest.. It’s a HC-VXF1. 👍
What is the delivery route for these. Do they come by sea to the UK.
A few companies have looked at this kit at Worksop and so far most have not been impressed but the proving trials from crew may change this. Most say they will sit on the fence until the 99 arrives. We will see.
Horses for courses. The 99s are a 75mph 6 axle freight only loco, the 93s are a 110mph 4 axle loco for both passenger and freight. The dual mode on both is only really suitable for moving very light loads.
@@mrvwbug4423 110 mph loco hauled trains are few these days.
@@mrvwbug442399s, however, could be somewhat useful as (at-rail) they have 1600kW on diesel. For context, a 66 puts down 1850kW (and the 99 has the advantage of AC motors), so I reckon they wouldn't be too dire
When it left Worksop this morning which way did it go through Mansfield
Via Sheffield and Derby
0:53 driver understood the assignment
Absolutely 👌😜
Good stuff as usual.
I'm Not sure about the 93..it looks fragile, unlike the 37 dragging it.
That's me at 06:35 with the tan boots on platform 12!😁👍🏻👋 (@TLGvideos)
Looks better than the 37
Hopefully they both have a part to play side by side in the ROG fleet for a good while yet 👍
If the Class 68s are any indication, they'll do fine. Stadler makes very good locomotives.
Yeah. "Fragile" is not a word I'd use to describe a Tractor either....!
@@TrainSimEnjoyer Nothing looks - or sounds - better than a 37!
Is it going to be another 87101 an experiment that didnt live up to expectations
Will any of those new locos have the long term cost benefit of those 37s?
Simple answer: NO! There is just too much tech incorporated in to modern traction that becomes obsolete in a relatively short space of time. The Class 37 is just a no frills solid workhorse - reliable as hell even if it can be somewhat uncomfortable to work.
I bet it doesn’t last long in service as the great sound of the 37 👍👍😬😬
@@jerry3685237 will definitely be gone in the 93s lifetime
Excellent camera work, especially through all the ironwork early on. What camera are you using?
Thanks very much. I use a Panasonic HC-VXF1 👍
FINALLY! Can't wait to see this in service with Grand Union in a few years time!
Crewe looks like its got some 1960s locos
Great video, how ironic that the latest, cleanest locos still need to be assisted at birth by their 65 year old grandmothers!!
What is the reason for a carriage either side of the loco? - I’ve seen this on other delivery videos of sets such as the metro etc - obviously a reason for it - just don’t know why 😀
@luelou8464 Not coupling adapters as the 93 is coupled on screw link - you can see it in the video.
Brake force I believe
I love the RR Cl37
I like that it has yellow ends - I know strictly speaking it's not required anymore, but locos just don't look right without it!
Me too and on a bright sunny day the yellow still stands out better than a light in the distance does, much better warning for track workers.
Does the 37901 still have it's Mirrlees powerplant ?
Yes she does and sounding great
I absolutely agree! @@andrewtodd3119
Wow that styling is so strange like an East German modern bus
The hell are you on about? Looks extremely similar to your average European Stadler product, just slightly smaller
What is it for freight? Where was it made.
Hi Paul, these are made by Stadler in Valencia, Spain.
Where are the 93’s built?
Valencia Spain
What's this thing going to be used for?
ROG dont have any freight franchises, do they ?
It’s the long term replacement for the class 37’s 🤯🤯🤯
@@trainsplanes No its not - ROG say it will not replace the 37 fleet, according to interviews in the railway press.
There’s quite a few people wondering what exactly it’s meant for, not exactly sure the fast freight market niche is really there for it
One of the oldest (and best?) Locos on the network hauling the newest locos on the network,interesting!
But don't know why they couldn't keep 86,87,90,s going😢
Is it in service?
Not yet
That class 93 would nearly get me to like electric and diesel engines
tri mode 93 evolution of the class 88 eh STADLER built looks amazing £4 million each wow
Looks good but seems to take an ice age to get anything passed to run in this country
What is the intent of this loco, as it seems there are many TOC's in the UK which seen to use mases of various built different loco's. There is plenty of other available traction which is under used than to buy, operate and maintain another version. It makes no sense these days in the UK why with all this private ROC's which we know doesn't work. We need to go back to when it was controlled by one body and a few type of locomotives to run what we need.
I think for passenger services with grand union and 100 mph freight operations with specialised wagons
They’ll be replacing the ROG class 37’s..
The freight TOCs actually work, particularly since they own their own equipment. A lot of locos are getting old and worn out, and need to be replaced, they may as well consolidate on fewer types of locomotives than they have now
I remember when locos did not have yellow ends back in the day😊
Me too, and headcodes
Isn't that a Vectron ❓️
It’s a Stadler EuroDual, in some ways an evolution of the class 88. The Vectron is a Siemens product
Nope, Stadler EuroDual 4MW version except trimode.
Great capture shame they ruined 901 by adding the rail operations assets vinyl onto it.
Those vinyls are messy - I’m not a fan either 🤯
Just a electric version of the 68
👍
Looks awesome, they’ve ruined 37901 by slapping that awful white sticker on the sides though
hi great video, another loco designed by clowns, no opening window for the driver, why do we need the contraptions when there are 86s standing around ?
you a bit late for that all the FL 86s got exported last year and 86s aren't dual modes so you would still need to have diesel locos around for anything non electrified where as these can effectively do the job of both. also pretty sure the windows on the cab doors do open
86s are WAY past they're due date if u think they are fit for regular mainline service then your deluded its as simple as that..
86s are WAY past they're due date if u think they are fit for regular mainline service then your deluded its as simple as that..
Not impressed by 93001 ....class 37 now they always give me goose bumps
I don't think that you will be the only one bud.... I saw it leaving Portbury docks a few months ago on the back of a low loader. I think it was on its way up to Leicester. And I don't think that it will last as long as the 37.
Lovely colour, certainly better than most of the liveries today.
I don't want to go down the political rabbit hole here but the only thing I will say that it's sad that Britain who once was a great manufacturer nation now has to get things built overseas be it the EU or elsewhere..
No doubt some company accounts are pleased at how many cans of beans they saved.
Look at the deplorable state aof the tracks at 3:30.....
I'm not a fan of an exposed pantograph/exhaust system. A surround could have made it look more streamlined..
Less to take off when they break down?😂 And rescued by a 37 no doubt
Its a basic machine with no frills that bit is wearing or breaks you can see it fix it have it back in action its got very little built in obselecence like the Douglas C47 two radials go on for ever fly it acros the US on one engine .. the clas 37 and for that matter the 43-44's were reliable not pretty and no frills its all got far too electronic for its own good
How long has it been since the C47 saw any military service??
@@andrewreynolds4949 is that relevant ? They are still flying them commercial Buffalo Airways up in the north of Canada because there is nothing else !! That does the duty bear in mind the first C 47 went into service 1936 20 + years before the Class 37 first came off the build line .
Im just saying its basic like a morris 1000 thats why the operators are still hiring them
@@andyrichards2569 If someone is still using their Ford model T for daily use (and I have seen this) it doesn't mean it's a good car anymore. The same is true for trains, and for the C47. Yes there is an operator still using it, which I have heard of, but that's because of the very niche requirements they have: extremely simple and reliable, rather than efficient or capable, for use in the Canadian wilderness where fixing things is very difficult
43s and "not pretty" in the same sentence? Impossible, and i doubt you're on about the Warships
Great video mate, but I have to admit it looks horrible. But we cant build our own loco's now, so I clue we will have to rely on European stock.
Class 93 looks to be one of the ugliest locomotives I've ever seen.
How? Looks perfectly decent to me
@@Danse_Macabre_125 are you delusional? It's very ugly and when you consider what it's replacing, I wouldn't call it perfectly decent
enjoy to see them, they will be pulled out of service in 2 years, because they are crap....
low quality and unreliable...
a normal thing in Tory England!
wasting money is the best they can do!
Oh grow up,I bet they will outlive the 37s,stadler make good stuff this isn't any 80x nonsense or mk5s,blinded by nostalgia you lot
@@TrainSimEnjoyer are they made in the UK, so its crap nobody else will buy, but the Brits....
no wonder they have no money for HS2, they got bribed so hard to get this junk!
All be drawn by horse and cart when labour get in an the place becomes totally 3rd world so be careful what you wish for