@@jimbeam7111 true lol my Ram had a locking rear. I don't know who is taking their dually off road through conditions bad enough to get you stuck, but personally I find that scenario unrealistic. Especially with the added trailer weight above the dually axle.
Technically, yes it is 4wd. But speaking from someone who owns almost that same truck but 4x4 and diesel, I can regrettably tell you it doesn’t take much to get a 4x4 dually stuck
The V10s actually had more tow capacity than the Cummins, their fuel economy was their biggest weakness (duh). Now with diesel being more expensive, diesel engines being costly to maintain, the new diesel trucks getting worse mileage thanks to the new emissions regs since 2007, and new trucks in general being priced to the moon, the old V10 trucks suddenly look less daunting.
@@nathan1sixteen Given how many guys are still fighting over old Cummins trucks rather than going bankrupt over the new ones, I'm sure that 13000lb is plenty for them. Given how much the new diesel trucks cost out the gate, their more expensive & more consistent maintenance intervals, and their lower fuel economy, the older diesels at markup are still cheaper by comparison, and the V10 gassers even cheaper by comparison. This is one of those markets where sellers keep price gouging because people keep clamoring for the newest thing, and the only way to get prices to drop at this rate is for buyers to opt-out or opt for used trucks until the new market bottoms out.
@@knote4958 Well, to begin, the reason a lot of this started was due to the chip shortage where you couldn’t get a new truck because they didn’t have enough chips to make them. So, people were going out and buy older used trucks because that’s all that was available. You go back 3-4 years (well after all the emissions crap was required) and you could get a 12v Cummins or a 7.3 powerstroke with 150k miles for 5 grand. I know because I was looking at them, and if I wasn’t in college at the time, I would’ve bought one. Now, with that being said, 90% of truck owners don’t need a truck, let alone more than 13,000lb towing capacity. Studies and surveys consistently show that a vast majority of people who own trucks never do “truck stuff” with them, like using the bed or towing. But, that’s not what the wizard was arguing. He stated that “guys who are actually towing are buying the v10s because their more reliable”. No, guys who are actually aren’t buying 25-30 year old trucks, because there’s a lot more to a truck than the power train. Having comfortable seats and the other amenities that new truck offer helps make those long hauls a bit more comfortable. Not constantly pushing your trucks towing capacity is also nice. I mean, just because your trucks rated to tow 13k doesn’t mean you should be towing that every day. But, if you’re trucks rated for 30k, it will tow 13k all day every day no problem
Now im a die hard ford guy and I hate cummins, but the reason for that is because of the extra weight of the diesel engine itself, and dodge had to follow a gvwr, sure the v10 could tow more on paper with the numbers, but the cummins did it way better with ease im sure, the diesel probably weighted 900 pounds and the gas was probably 500 or so. that extra 400 lbs of capacity is taken away from the diesel, while the gas gained 400 lbs of capacity etc.
@@7.3powerstroke6 12 valve is 1100lbs, v10 is 830ish, not a huge difference, v10=300hp 12v180hp, v10 has 3 times the usable rpm band, v10 walks all over a STOCK cummins.
My Dad told me years ago, "You can buy a newer expensive car and get great gas mileage, or you can buy an old car for less and spend the money you save on fuel." In our state, a newer truck would also cost a lot more to register the license plates each year. Buying that beast was brilliant, and a perfect choice. Thanks for sharing!
Exactly. I have 2 cars, one is a brand new Hyundai I bought for my gf for good fuel mileage and safety, finance is 100 bucks a week... The other is my 1992 Merc W140 that absolutely chews fuel but I paid cash for it and it's absolutely beautiful. We drive around the same amount per week, which is a LOT, but factoring fuel in the Merc and payments + fuel for the Hyundai, the W140 is cheaper to run. Of course I could have bought an economical car for cash but that's not why we're on this channel!
I bought a '96 Ram 2500 4wd with the V10 back in 2008, which was the last time gas went nuts. Paid $2500 for it because NOBODY wanted it. Was a great truck!
Its unfortunate. Dodge with their V10, Ford with Their V10, and GM with their V8 were all very good motors. Maybe if they somehow made them more efficient. No one likes the numbers at the pump, even though they probably could buy years of gas instead of paying for a new, fuel efficient car's loan, all the while pay the hidden cost of depreciation
@@gunshipproduct2 I think its the transmissions of the time that really killed them more than anything. It was also tough because back then there wasn't much difference in gas and diesel at the pump, usually diesel was less and diesel maintenence wasn't that expensive back then either. Nowadays with better transmissions like the Ford 10 speed and the insane maintenance costs of new diesels I think gas engines are looking at a 3rd life in the HD truck world. That relatively short golden age of the light duty diesel in pickups is long gone, but man was it fun while it lasted!
I recently purchased a 1998 Ram 2500 V10 4x4 Quadcab with an 8ft bed. 118k miles and I love it (it's not my daily). I upgraded the steering box and added a steering stabilizer. Mint interior and no cracked dash (seem more common in the US than Canada). I paid $6500 CAD and I am 3rd owner. Minimal surface rust on the arches but cab corners all good.
the cracked dashes are definitely more common in the US. i have an online friend in canada that has a 96/97 1500 5.2 v8 thats twice totaled and the dash is perfect. he works in a junkyard and basically all the dashes he sees there are near perfect. My 01 1500 5.2 v8 has a cracked dash (but not destroyed) and my roommates 01 2500 5.9 v8 is missing multiple pieces of the dash. An old coworker of mine also had an 01 1500 5.9 v8 and its dash was in about the same shape as mine.
@@Bingo1Dog Yeah its weird, a local Diesel/truck shop said they rarely see the dash in pieces like you see in the US, like it is jaw dropping how bad they get.
It really shows that in the past 5-10 years fuel efficiency and emissions standards prompted manufacturers to get into a realm of way too much complexity to meet them. It's this awkward period where electric is just starting to be ready for prime time and gas is being pushed beyond reasonable efficiencies.
Electric prime time?? Dude get real, we *cannot* convert all current car/truck use to batteries, it's *not* technically nor practically possible to achieve the same use as we do now.
Making me feel good about my 1999.5 F250 SD 7.3 I bought at the bottom of the market in 2008/2009. It's been a great truck. Has 205k miles now. Paid $8150 for it which included $650 for a new matching color 8' take off bed. I plan on keeping it forever.
I am totally with you about this truck being a value. I recently bought a 115k mile 2003 Yukon XL for 8000 dollars, and the same argument can be made about it. The new models cost 70-80k or more, the engine has major longevity issues, and the difference in fuel economy is negligible. When the purchase price is 10% of what a new one costs, the difference in fuel mileage is moot.
If many know a mid 1990's ram 3500 dually with the V10 is a steal when if one has tips to wear clothing they don't mind getting dirty when looking at a mid Y2K GMC Yukon XL as seeing a for sale sign in the window has one look over the vehicle to know its worth the effort to call the owner for a test drive when potential buyers urge the seller to take the vehicle to a mechanic the buyer trusts for a pre-purchase inspection. Depending on trim level has many knowing new models can top $100,000 as with options as if many knowingly want the 6.2 as if they are driving the new SUV off a dealership lot for $120,000.
Completely agree, when you factor in the diesel is more than $1.00 gallon more expensive the slightly better fuel efficiency is no longer an factor. I prefer the 8.1 Vorteck big block but the Dodge V10 is also a solid choice.
longevity is also a factor vs the diesel and the diesel easily makes more power with upgrades while retaining or gaining fuel mileage also I can run my truck on oil if I had to
most diesels get twice the mpg compared to the 8.1 and the v10 empty, towing is still about 5mpg better with a diesel , therefore a $1 is worth paying for another 8-10 mpg. I have both the 8.1 and a duramax lb7, so i speak from experience
@@Tommy-bl2vm i can vouch for Diesels i got a 2005 F250 Harley Davidson edition with ALOT of aftermarket mods. 6.0L Powerstroke. gets about 29 mpg highway and 20 towing highway a 2022 bronco on a car trailer. and my 2019 F250 platinum all bone stock all the emissions crap on it still. which recently broke at 70k miles emissions crap not the motor. i am getting 13.7-15 MPG towing or not towing highway. pretty much identical no matter what im doing with it... i think im gonna delete it before warranty's even up just because i calculated it out with the 30k more miles i need to drive it with the minimum 5.5 dollars a gallon for diesel in my area i will be spending atleast $12039 in fuel. vs if i delete it now. $1034 on fuel for the same distance. this calculations for unloaded highway.... itll probably be a bit higher but 12k VS 1k in fuel costs. not to mention down time because emissions crap broke. or breaks
I have a 2002 7.3 crew cab long box 4x4 manual trans also. I'll never sell it. I think it's the best truck ever built by man. Put brakes on it at 103000 miles. Now has only 105000 miles.
My coworker has a 110k mile 7.3 4x4 no dually with absolutely zero blemishes. In michigan too where theres nothing but rust. He's been offered 50k for it and turned it down.
Car Wizard, you are one of the few mechanics out there that has experience with the aluminum block Viper V-10 and the iron block Ram V-10. I'd love to see a video where you compare and contrast these engines. I think that would be pretty interesting. There's a lot of misconceptions about them. For example, the Viper is often said to have a truck engine, even though its version went into production before the Ram's. The Viper V-10 is often called a Lamborghini engine, which way overstates their development work on some prototype V-10s they built for Chrysler. Next time you are working on a Viper, I would love to see it parked next to the Ram and hear your thoughts and opinions on these engines. I think that would make am interesting video. Cheers!
I love my 95 v10 !!! Costs me a fortune in gas but it’s incredibly reliable. Starts everyday, never let me stranded and I’ve towed hundreds if not thousands of pounds of weight at a single time and it doesn’t skip a beat .
Damn it dude quite throwing us under the bus it took years of us to keep people away from our V10's and kept it quiet now here you are running your mouth and letting the world know so thanks a lot!!!
Not sure Wizard will be the spark for that flame. People everywhere have been catching onto this, and not just with Rams. Used to not be able to get much out of a V10 F250, but now they are going up.
@@platinumuschannel the tiny Ford 6.7 v10 even fire made for more hp then torque. Dodge 8.0 v10 odd fire built for torque. It's basically 2 l5s put together.
It’s something about older trucks that are so simple but yet timeless. I use to do hotshot with a 2018 Ram 3500. I did like how well it towed and thankfully I never had emission system issues but I can definitely understand why some of the guys want to go to older diesels. Even in the big rig world some of the guys want pre 2000 engines.
At work we sold a F-450 with a 19’ bucket. The company was too cheap to overhaul the hydraulic system for the bucket, so every time we tried to use it, it started puking hydraulic fluid somewhere. We bought it new in 2001, it had a grand total of 14,000 miles on it. It sold for a whopping big price of…… $7200! Pull the lift and put a standard 8’ bed on it, and you would have virtually a 20 year old new truck!! It was an international diesel, manual shift 4wd. What a great work truck, for dirt cheap! Once we pretty much quit using it, all that happened with it was start it weekly and take a 20 mile ride monthly. The 4wd was useless, but it had a winch on front and rear, cold AC, 3kw inverter. A great work truck, 10 MPG anytime. There are good deals on the older diesel trucks, but you have to really search.
@@Zephyrmec Wouldn't it be cheaper to overhaul or replace the bucket lift than to buy a new truck with a new bucket lift? I have never overhauled a bucket lift but I can't imagine it being more costly than a new truck with a new lift on it. People used to ask why I had engines and transmissions rebuilt in my vehicles (when they only lasted 150K-200K miles before needing a rebuild) for $1500-$3000, I would then ask how much their new car cost them. They would answer (at the time) $20K-$30K. If I can get another five years out of a car or truck, it is worth the $3000. For the record my sister had her automatic transmission rebuilt in her mid 2000's Chevy Suburban, she removed and re-installed it herself (if you met her you would figure it out) but it cost her $500 plus the gas to get to the rebuilding guy (about 200 miles round trip -- we both live in a rural area), I priced a Jasper transmission for it and it was about $4000 plus they would only ship to a certified mechanic (yeah, I would probably have been stupid enough to write that check without much hesitation if it had been my truck since a new one would be about $60K, if I got two years out of it before everything else went to hell it would have been worth it to me and her mid 2000's Chevy 3/4 ton pickup has 350K miles on it and still runs fine whereas the Suburban only has about 250K on it). A year later her transmission seems to be fine and she tows a heavy trailer regularly.
If many known when Chrysler was still an independent automaker when after the restyling in 1994 has many knowing a magnum V10 was an option in 2500 and larger rams in relation to ford and its triton family of engines which included a triton V10. If those trying to sell a second and or third gen ram when if potential buyers question wanting the transition era of the Cummins as if they wanted the late 12 valve or the early 24 valve as if potential buyers are told the ram they are interested in buying has the LA series of engines including the V10 when if the seller hears a click then a dial tone as the potential buyer is after a Cummins.
David, I heard from someone who knew an engineer at Chrysler who told him about the transmissions in those years of trucks. He said the engineer told him at the time his boss didn't want to hear about certain plastic parts in those transmissions would fail. Using stronger parts would've been the better way to go. His boss didn't want to hear it as saving those costs with plastic parts were his ticket to a bonus and possible promotion. Eventually Chrysler had massive failures in those transmissions leading to recalls and rebuilds.
A few years ago, I worked in the parts department of a local Toyota/Lexus dealership. On my last day there (I had accepted a position at another place), one of the mechanics (who was hearing impaired) was raising a 3 month old Tacoma truck on one of the hydraulic lifts, and was looking at his cell phone while it was going up. He had placed one of the lift points incorrectly, and the truck fell off of the lift! Thankfully, no one was injured, but the customer wound up with a brand new truck, and the mechanic wound up looking for another job!
I remember walking into the Ford dealership I purchased a car from years ago for warranty work. I walk up to the Service Desk and noticed there was no one at the desk. I look out into the shop, and there was this BEAUTIFUL Saleen Mustang.... Laying on it's passenger side after it fell off the lift! I didn't ask what happened, but, I found another Ford dealer to have my warranty work done.
At least his disability didn't keep him from being fired. Believe it or not earlier this year at a dealership in Georgia where my brother-in-law works, an older valet with foot neuropathy slammed the gas pedal down on a car in the shop instead of the brake and pinned a service tech to his death against a wall. The valet still works there.
I just want to thank you for posting all these videos, my dad is a mechanic and he never wanted to show me and take the time to explain to me how to fix cars cause he would say it was a man's job even when I wanted to learn. dont ever stop posting please, youre changing my life lmao!!!!
I'm a mechanic, and I've never bought into that BS about it being a "man's job". I've worked with several women mechanics and they were just as good as any guy. Follow your dream! Ojalá tengas exito!
I have a soft spot for this truck. I’m 24 and learned to drive stick in. 99 3500 with the Cummins and a 6 speed transmission in the hay fields. It had to be the easiest way to learn just because it was damn near impossible to stall it.
See i think diesels are too easy for people to start out learning stick in since it's hard to stall them. Since they spoil you with their torque and it makes it a sudden shock when you get in a gas vehicle with a stick and find out very quickly what works in a diesel doesn't work in a gas. I learned to drive stick in a dodge neon dad had on the lot killed it many times but figured it out in a few mins ever sense if its got wheels i can drive it.
@@nou8257 yeah no, I agree. It’s definetly to easy haha and doesn’t translate well to a low torque vehicle. But luckily I had grasped the manual transmission thing from riding four wheelers and also the truck. So when I got in a car it was a smoother transition
I learned standard in a 1992 Ford festiva. Dad had brought me on the frozen Ottawa River in January...best way to learn lol, no head bopping and no stalling.
You tell it just like it is! One of the reasons I like your channel and will continue watching. Totally unbiased and 100% accurate! I think the V10 Ram was one of the most enjoyable trucks I owned, especially the 5 speed 2500, I wish I had kept it to be honest, I did replace it with a 3500 V10 fully loaded leather, woodgrain etc. It ended up being too much truck though, I don’t haul anything heavy and I just liked the acceleration of the V10, I ended up selling it for a Tundra as I needed a better ride with decent acceleration that was more self sufficient. V10’s are hard to sell, most people don’t realize they aren’t too far away in fuel economy from a 5.2 and 5.9 v8 and they accelerate 20x better, most people are looking for ways to get more power out of the 5.2 and 5.9 V8, the V10 would be a better solution. Young people see the Cummins as a race engine, then there’s people who are into industrial and agriculture that love it, those things coupled with new diesel emissions drive the prices insane. A lot of people today forgot back in the 90’s the V10 was top dog, drive a stock Cummins of the same vintage you’ll see they don’t move too swiftly but they pull anything at will, where as the V10 moved with ease and pulled the same. Of course with the aftermarket you can’t compare them the Cummins wins all day but I liked the V10 no hard starts in cold weather, nothing to modify or mess with, great as is turn key and go.
He did a nice cherry pick of those Trucks he compared the prices to at start. I find a lot of things The so called "Car Wizard" does is what He complains other shops or Mechanics do. For example when He Put a new cv boot on the front drive shaft on one of Tyler's Mercedes suv's. He charged him to remove the front cv shaft, then clean and regrease the joint and replace the rubber cv boot. after a very short time the joint failed. He then charged Tyler for a 2nd hand cv shaft and labour to fit it. If that would of been myself i would of thrown that bill back at Him. He told him that it was worn out and it needed to be replaced. Why didn't He tell him that when he had it apart to regrease it and replace the rubber cv boot. If it was that badly worn, He should of never regreased it and put a new boot on it in the first place. If one of my guys had done that, they would be looking for a new job. The so called "Car wizard" should have replaced that cv shaft for no cost. I know you can't really technically put a warranty on used parts, But He just had thing torn apart. so he would of seen it needed replacing. He is very good at calling a lot of other Mechanics out, but He does a lot of things that ar just as bad. I think he is forgetting a lot of things now He is a Big You tube star.
As long as your business doesn't rely in towing this is a great dependable truck. If your business core is towing related then you probably want something that is as cheap as possible to run, but in this case if you only plan to tow not so often and need something reliable you can bite the bullet with the gas mileage. And I completly agree with the other comments. 94-02 rams are the best looking trucks. Since I saw them in 94 for the first time I'm hoping to get one some day.
I went through the same math as the wizard in Jan/Feb before I bought a 1991 C3500 with a freshly (overbuilt) transmission behind a 454 with similar mileage as this V10 beast. Obviously it needed things here and there, but the guy who ordered it with LITERALLY every option available to him at the time of purchase took great care of it. I felt silly spending 5k on a truck that gets used sparingly throughout the year after gas prices went crazy but...it doesn't really matter when I need to haul big loads. Cause those loads need to go from there to here, and the minimal use I put it through means it will last forever. Also, I'm a sucker for bordello red mousefurr interior.
Old is gold. My work car is now 16 years old. It's not that I can't afford something newer, it's just that everyone I know with a new car keeps breaking down. Yeah, it's not perfect and things break, but when they do, I can normally fix them faster and cheaper myself than if I paid someone to do it.
I've had four of them v10s and never once had a complaint about them. I had one two wheel drive that got good mileage about 12 in town and somehow 17 on the freeway. But I didn't drive it hard and it was two wheel drive. Made one trip from boise to Gooding idaho, must've had a good tail wind but managed to only use 5 gallons of fuel going down for 112 miles pump to pump. I thought the gage was broken
My 08 ford diesel gets 18mpg pulling my bumper pull trailer with whatever you want behind it and 21mpg empty highway my 02 does 16 to 17mpg with its manual trans dads cummins gets 15 no matter what you do to it
@@rajanrairealty8979 my 02 doesnt have any emissions systems deleted because it never came with any but yeah the 08 had all the goverment bullshit gone when i got the truck
What’s with the transmission issues I see come up when researching this era Dodge? Have my eye on one but worried about weak transmission. Thanks in advance
I have a '00 F250 4x4 crew cab short bed with the 6.8l V10. 220K, runs fine, 8mpg towing, 10 in town. Paid 4000 for it with 151K 8 years ago. I wanted a cummins or a powerstroke but even 8 years ago prices were double or more for trucks with twice the miles.
The early 5.9 Cummings 6-12-6 mechanical fuel injected diesels are worth their weight. My brother has a pair from new 1992 Dodge Ram W250 that work their butts off. But you are correct, these early Iron block V10's were powerful and nearly indestructible. The underside looks great. Back when a Dodge was a Dodge. They were work trucks first and foremost as is evident by an all-Analog gage set, love that.
Car wizard i was able to buy a 1995, Ram 2500 4x4 with the manual transmission and the legendary 12 valve engine. The trucks brilliant blue metallic i was able to get it right before the pandemic with 45,800 original miles it currently has 47,013. I paid what i thought was a large amount of money for the pickup but with current prices of pre emission diesels it has doubled in value from what i paid for it.
@@jasonfarnsworth5880 please show me where you can find a rust free gardge kept manual 4x4 12 valve with low milage for 9k. I'll pay ya 5k finders fee for everyone you find. 🤣 🤣 I really don't think you have any idea what your talking about my friend.
This is the same philosophy I used when I bought my 2013 6.2 F250. Yeah it doesn't get the greatest gas mileage and a 7.3 will out tow it up a hill, but my gawd I couldn't justify spending $30k extra just for the pleasure of running a Diesel when I'm not towing 24/7, plus the 6.2 is a tank of an engine which is easy to maintain.
6.2L is a great engine. I just got an 11 F150 Platinum w/6.2. Runs like new. 186K. I got 18.5 mpg on a long highway trip. Nothing really to write home about but the engine is extremely reliable! I towed 8K lbs with it already. No problem.
I just can't give up diesel, the extra cost is something I am willing to put up with, love my 2011 6.7 powerstroke, tows my 16,000lb 5th wheel loaded up with side x side with ease. I still have my 2002 7.3 powerstroke as well. I removed all the emissions on my 2011 it's a very reliable truck.
Why not? Buy something like that today and you're spending at least $70,000 to $80,000. Drove one for years as a company truck and put on it 300,000 MI never broke down. (Except for the seats).
My wife and her father run a landscaping company, and one of the trucks they have is a 2019 Ford F350 4WD with a large dump-bed, a dually rear axle, and they tow a double-axle equipment trailer that's got to weigh 7,000+ pounds loaded, easily. It's got the 6.2L V8, and they're lucky to get 6 or 7 MPG when it's fully loaded. But man, it hauls all that stuff with zero issues. Sometimes you just *have* to go big or go home, when you need to get a heavy-duty job done. And modern Diesels suck so bad, as you mentioned. The extra money you pay for the lower MPG with gasoline is MORE than worth it when you factor in the extra cost of purchasing a Diesel truck and maintaining it.
So are Fords in the '99-'03 era at least for the autos. Dodge and Ford from that era are tied in that area for having weak autos, although from my understanding, the manuals during that era were solid for both. GM had the best auto gearbox of the three starting in '01 at least for diesels.
@@DFX4509B GM stuck the 4L80 behind most of the bigger gas engines on the 3/4 and 1T pickups. The Allison was leaps and bounds ahead of anything else being offered in ‘01, but the good old 4L80e (and the TH400 before it) was no slouch either.
Someone told me something prophetic one time: "If you find a 20 year old Dodge Ram with the Cummins engine for sale for $21,000, you are looking at a $20,000 engine bolted into a $1000 truck".
I'm lucky I bought a 12 valve engine for $1,500 last year out of a box truck. To swap into my Chevy. No way could I afford a dodge truck with a Cummins in it.
Did the same calculation a few years ago. My father had a 96 d3500 cummins standard cab with the trans out if it (4th time) when my truck got totaled out for me while it was parked. Originally was going to buy the old Dodge off of pops, but had gotten used to an extended cab truck. So I hunted for a good heavy truck like this one. Bought a really nice 01 x-cab Ford Super Duty v10 2wd with ~155k on it for $6500. We going to put the 12v in the Ford, but then diesel went through the roof - Obama administration timeframe. If drive the truck around a bit and really liked how it towed and etc, was getting 13-15mpg, 19v heavy loaded. Did the math, couldn't make Finnair sense out of it. My nephew bought the 96 and fixed it back up, I'm still driving the old has hog. Fuel pump, some brakes, set of coils and plugs at 215k, and many, many heavy trailer loads later- still my favorite and still going strong. Love the old gas hogs, and good luck with the old work truck!
Love the 94-02 rams. Best looking truck made in my opinion. My dad had a 98 diesel 4x4 like this. The v10 is underrated, very powerful and reliable. I’m kinda looking around for a 2500 4x4 like this. Maybe just a v8 but I’ll take a v10 if it comes along.
Just picked up a 2001 Dodge 1500, 4x4 ,5.9, extra cab, 165k miles, it was headed for donation but I intercepted... trans & rear axle rebuilt already. only needs suspension & steering and seat bottom. a few little things like battery, cracked lights. Planning to use for lighter load towing - will add a cooler. The motor purrs. Hope a few thou invested will make for durable and lasting extra vehicle.
I love reading threads on the Dodge forum about how to bypass bad emissions components. “Stick a screw in that hose, it’s robbing your horsepower” “Take that air pump out, it’s just extra weight” “Cut that belt, ya don’t need it” and now people paying for a brand new one are being stopped when a sensor goes out. That’s ridiculous.
I totally agree about the newer diesels. We had a 2017 F250 with a 6.7L diesel in it. I loved the power that it put out but I couldn't afford to keep it on the road. The (all) emissions-related repairs killed us. We bought the truck to pull a 25' travel trailer across the country and back and kept it for only a short while after returning. 'Exhaust filter plugged' and finally a pair of O2 sensors a week apart cost us $2,000.00. Ford's answer was that I didn't drive it hard enough - "Drive it like you stole it!!" - they told me. And the problem isn't really 'manufacturer' based - it's the damned government calling for impossible to meet emission standards for a problem that, by-in-large, no longer even exists with newer Diesel engines. ("I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you". No, you're not. Go away!)
I got an emergency tow once, when the tow truck arrived it idled up and self cleaned the exhaust. Truck driver didn’t know how to overrride/ override was only for dire situations. So we waited. And waited. Then loaded up
David Freiburger approves of this message. Seriously though, I needed to get a second car to ferry my son around in. It made more sense to buy a Falcon (of Australia), a car with a 4.0L inline 6 than to buy Corolla of similar condition for twice as much. For a car that was going to sit on the street most of the time, the fuel economy argument didn't matter. I did find that the Falcon used about the same or less fuel than my EJ25 powered Liberty (Legacy) wagon. Around 10L/100km which is 23.5 miles per US gallon.
Those Ford Falcons look really sweet with that inline 6. I really hope Ford gives us something cool with this engine in the next few years when they start getting rid of most of their V8s. I can see them putting a big twin turbo kit on this engine and putting it in the next GT mustang.
Diesel fuel is the most expensive...so with a good gas powered engine I really think you made a very good and well thought out decision going with this V10 and NOT a diesel. Besides, like you said the price difference being in the 10s of thousands of dollars..."That's a lot of gasoline".
I had a '94 2500 2wd and loved it. If I remember right it was 300 hp which was good for back then. I believe I heard the motor was a modular design meaning it could have been built with up to 12 cylinders. I think the bore and stroke was the same as the v6. I was getting 15 mpg on the highway and that is about the same as a 360 was getting. But that was a while ago so I may be mis-rembering a little. 🙂
I would assume the guy being confused about 4x4 adding hauling capacity was going under the pre-assumption of farmwork or logging etc where in most places you NEED the 4x4 to get there and back, if its gonna be an on road truck 2by is definitely the better option
@@juliogonzo2718 true but thats the thing, theres always circumstantial moments where one will beat the other in terms of performance, so it all really depends on what the driver is doing with it
@@jimbusmaximus4624 Under a lot of circumstances sure, but there are still those moments when if you dont have 4x4 you aint moving, learned that lesson long ago lol
I had to laugh so hard. It probably doesn't happen to very many others, but the first commercial around the 4 minute mark for me was for new 1 ton Chevy trucks. They must have a search out for other manufacturer names in titles to get their truck to show in those videos.
I max pulled a trailer (~5,000lbs) across 3 states and back with my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 inline 6 and managed to get 15mpg through Michigan and Ohio but once I got to Pennsylvania, my modified 5 speed automatic transmission never got out of 4th gear thanks to the hills, but it pulled great. These 2000s vehicles are reliable for critical towing without all that emissions crap that can go wrong or holding you back. Oh and I paid $600 for that Jeep and put in at most $1,000. Mostly sensors, tires and brakes. 250k miles.
That's an updated version of the old AMC inline-6. An extremely robust and reliable unit Chrysler has never been able to replicate. In fact, the only weak point on 90s Cherokees is the garbage Chrysler automatic transmissions. With the 5-speed manual, they were truly bulletproof vehicles. That's good to hear you got a modified transmission, though. I really hope it gives you many years of service. Swapping them out sucks.
@@ironpanther2420 Yeah one day I was having issues with it not going into overdrive because of a TPS issue. And I was counting gears after I fixed it and I'm like "1... 2... 3... 4... 5...? Nah that ain't right." And I kept counting and yeah my gearbox was a 5 speed. When I bought it I had to change the upstream O² sensor and it was jammed into the transmission housing so after figuring that out, I have to have a non-stock transmission. And it's geared low. My dad has a 1997 Grand Cherokee and his has the stock 4 speed and I'm in 3rd by the time he gets into 2nd. But his RPMs are lower on the highway. But after towing, mine stays in that 3,000RPM sweet zone way more often so it feels like it's built to pull.
@@ironpanther2420 I have the original trans on my 2000 3/4 ton. When the second owner bought it it had ~120k on it. He built the trans so it had longer gears. 18 years later it has 346k and no problems. So yeah if the trans is rebuilt right they'll last
I love my 2001 Ram2500 V10 Quad Cab Sport 4x4. I've owned 2 Rams. The first one being a 1998 Ram1500 5.9 Laramie SLT Longbed. There's no comparison on why you should get the 8.0l V10. In the 2 years I've owned mine, I've put 30,000mi on it. Very little upkeep needed. It was a bonus to not only being the second owner of my Ram LA488, but also getting the original window sticker!
Totally agree with what you did here, Wizard. Plenty of haters and a lot of the pre-emissions diesel guys have their superiority complex (not everyone can have or needs a diesel truck, point-blank-period). The V10 Magnum was reliable, powerful, and not bad to work on... and it still has less spark plugs than the 5.7L V8 Hemi and all 3rd gens! Lol.
A friend of mine in outback Western Australia had one of these, but the SRT Viper model and it couldn't quite make it between the towns and the drilling camps he'd often travel to... It needed a couple full Jerry cans in the tray at all times, just to be sure. It was cools as hell, but totally impractical and needless to say didn't last long as a daily.
My uncle had the exact same one as the Wizard, dually and all; but emerald green and with the Cummins. The reason why people pay and cling so much to those Diesels is they use just 10l per 100km [around 25mpg]. The V10 makes sense for just towing tractors around on your land, but most people with those massive trucks need to travel like road trains.
@@anasevi9456 Yeah they're awesome in the correct application... As my quarry manager taught me as an apprentice, to be useful a machine needs to be: "in the correct location, the correct configuration and the correct application." A petrol V10 pickup truck is badass, but overkill for ferrying the boss around sites and towing toys on the weekends. It wasn't even as comfortable as my 70 Series GXL LandCruiser and that was an uncomfortable ute at the best of times. The Cruiser wasn't actually that much more economical to be honest, but it worked properly off road and was a much better commercial vehicle. Especially out there.
9mpg is going to be generous. I do agree with you, though, I rather have a gasser than a diesel, maintenance on the diesel is too expensive and with the fuel prices the way they are it really is a wash on fuel cost. I'm towing with a 8.1L/Allison combo chevy and love it.
but my 98 ram with a Cummins gets 21mpg so that a pretty big difference I feel like that makes up for the difference plus the fact the a diesel will last longer.
@@1g_dsm_life154 I'm putting less than 5000 miles a year on it. If I were on the hwy every day, I may consider a diesel, but I go to auctions once a week and haul junk home. I like the fact I don't have to worry about an injection pump or expensive injectors or the dowl pin of death or the insane purchase price that old cummins seem to command. It still takes a lot of miles to make up the difference.
I got my 98 2500 2wd long bed 24v for $3500 about 3 years ago, at the time everyone thought I was stupid because all they could see was a old truck with rusted fenders, rockers, and various other dents and etc from use (it was a work truck, and was used to haul a 5th wheel camper from up north down here to FL every year, hence the body rust), but the frame, engine, trans, and interior are all well solid. Even after having to replace a vp44 injection pump for like 1300$, I still feel like it was a great deal for the capabilities of the vehicle, and I daily drive it on top of all of that, 40k miles added since purchase along with many longevity and power adding modifications such as Fass 150 lift pump, tuner, bigger injectors and turbo, etc etc etc
I got a 1995 dodge ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.9 magnum and 82k original miles on it for 1650 bucks six years ago, guess what I drive it weekly usually to the fishing ponds and to haul trailers here and there. My old Dodge truck is awesome I've saved neighbors a few years ago because I was the only person who could get out after 31" of snow. I just moved into a new home and used it to pull a 12' foot trailer. I get crap because it's got horribly faded paint, but hey I paid cash for it six years ago and it still runs like a champ. I honestly think I'll keep it forever I absolutely love that old truck it's extremely reliable and the best part is that it's paid for
Interesting video Car Wizard! The Dodge V-10 is 488 cubic inches, 300hp, and around 450lb/ft of torque. I think in later years of the production the V-10 was bumped up to ~310hp. Seems like you did pretty good for what you are going to use it for.
@ Brandon Wright. How many throttle bodies and turbos you would go through in 20 years with the EcoBoost (if it lasts that long).. I don’t think I would ever buy a EcoBoost. Too many horror stories of them shutting down on people for bad throttle bodies or the turbos blowing up.
@@pi1797 I think I would rather have a V8 or a diesel as well. I haven't owned one but pumping that much power out of a puny V6 with ridiculously powerful turbochargers has to put a LOT of stress on the engine. I haven't heard of too many people having good luck with a I4 or small V6 turbocharged engine, I know I wouldn't want to tow heavy loads with a 3.5 V6! The 5.9 Cummins is reported to be a decent engine even with the turbocharger, however, as are most of Ford's V8 diesels.
Having towed with both a Ram v10 and a Cummins of that year l will take the diesel every time. However from an occasional driving towing standpoint, Big V8s make sense and the 8.0 V10 is a decent alternative
I own and daily drive an 04 Silverado with the 8.1L/Alison combo. Terrible gas mileage but will pull a house down the road! I LOVE the ride and she looks nice.
My 2022 f250 with the 6.2 gasser gets 10.5mpg lol. You did good. All the construction crews get the cheapest gas trucks for a reason. Mine has the tool boxes, shovels, chains, 100gal diesel tank, gas cans, plate tamper, generator, etc. It's routinely overloaded, and yes its slow, but im paid by the hour and ill sit in that ice cold AC as long as possible. I used to have a 91 E350 gasser van. 8mpg empty, but it only cost $1000 and it made me a ton of money. And with well over 300k miles, it never let me down once. And that 5.8 351 Windsor didn't lack for power. I'm a firm believer that the best truck is the paid off one if youre a business person. It's best to have an old truck reserved for truck things, and a cheap, efficient, reliable car for daily use. And maybe a third for fun if you so desire.
The Car Wizard used to have a green, 1998 Dodge Ram Regular Cab with the 5.2 L V8 engine a couple years ago. Now, he has another one, but it is the 1996 model with the 8 L V10 engine. Anyway, we still need to do a buy this, not that video for Mitsubishi Motors. Thanks.
I remember driving a big diesel truck for the first time, my 22' Penske International.. got about 7mpg when I know the v10 gas model at uhaul gets like 3mpg. But holy crap was the diesel slow!! I had it pegged and down a gear every hill and still lost momentum. I feel like the gas would have been more enjoyable to drive across the country.. albeit $1,000 more for fuel.. yikes
I just painted my 1995 v10 3500 with black raptor paint, I’d totally recommend this Mr Wizard, you could do a great video too. I love how I can scrap and bump my truck now and things just bounce off. Best truck I’ve ever had and I love her more than my AMG GT 😊
I just painted mine with the raptor paint too, also upgraded the front and tail lights to LED for under $200!!! Made a huge improvement to the overall look of the truck, really looks quite clean now.
@@Shannon.Harmon10 Right! The LED upgrades are so affordable and create much better visibility on the road, best money I’ve spent in a long time too! I’m looking at the SRT style front bumper for mine now too.
Gas pig! I have one of those, but mines a 5.9 Cummins and I get 20mpg instead plus all the torques 👍 Incredible money making machines, no def crap, rock solid, better mpg than the new ones. I keep mine stock cus as soon as you start upping the power on any old diesel to keep up with the new ones you get leaks. I’ve had 0 leaks on mine the past year I owned it. Cold AC everything works
I have pretty much that same truck, but in a different color. My dad bought it used in the fall of 97 to pull his RV and I bought it from him in 05 and I use it to pull my RV. It is not my daily driver and that's another fine reason to have the V10 instead of the diesel. As far as I know, it's more likely a diesel will suffer from sitting for long stretches than a gas engine will. So far, after sitting way more than driving, my V10 has given me zero problems.
@@01Bouwhuis it's still the same in the US, but the emissions equipment on the larger engines has really dropped fuel efficiency... It's getting to the point where burning more gas is cheaper. And if you have emissions system problems you hit the unlucky lottery and need to dump thousands.
They are simple to repair. They are almost identical to the 727. Very easy to repair. Change the cheap bands with HD kevlar bands and a shift and your good to go. Also a nice cooler will go along ways. I had a a 1500 with the 46re with 470k on it with the original trans that's was never removed and it still going to this day 6 years later and still never been out.
I'm not sure if this beats my 8-14 mpg I get in my Srt10 Ram but I know my 99 Dakota Rt 5.9 had a steady 6-10 mpg. You got the twister chaser though which is cool enough for me!
I'm up in Canada and run a 1999 Ram 2500 V10 2wd and love it. Same as you it's not a everyday driver but it pulls like a freight train and it's been great. it has 160,000km (100,000 miles) and i have no plans of replacing it,. I paid $4000.00 for it 6 years ago.
Mr. Wizard, if I wouldn't be a Christrian, I would covet your purchase of the V10 1 Ton. But I admire you too much, and you are so darn smart, I just ask God to bless you. I've been looking High and Low for a Truck just like that here in the Arctic of Alberta Canada. They didn't make many (for Canada anyway) and Back in '97 , a 1Ton Dually "HERE" 2 whell Drive is absolutly useless and actually Scary to drive. The high floatation of the dual wheels only needs a little moisture on the road and it goes nowhere. So we only buy 4x4s,or quit driving/hauling for the winter. Another great deal for the Wizard.
My cousin has an 01 Ram 2500 8 Liter 5 speed 4x4 affectately known as the Beast. Yeah it sucks for mpg, but it pulls "anything" he needs it to, even a 40 ft 5th wheel trailer.
How much did it really cost you after replacing the tires, power steering box, AC compressor and front shocks, plus the rest of what needed to be done? Not that this makes up the difference if you bought a diesel, but it would be more accurate getting this truck to the point of being reliable.
I've benn driving Volvo tractors (D13 engines) with the particle trap/def systems for about five years now and getting a "filter full", "regen required" and "derate in x number of miles" warnings were too common. It was always a sensor. Always. Fortunatly I got a brand new VNR tractor last year and haven't had any problems like that with it. Yet.
I go through a similar story when people ask me "why did you buy a GMC 2500HD with the 8.1L gas motor?". They're simple to maintain, reliable, less expensive to acquire compared to a diesel. I chose to pay for the inefficiency of the gas motor over time. I have no regrets.
The V10's weak spots are crank sensor (good luck finding one) , the roller lifter rollers start galling but are easily fixed using 3.8L Gm lifter rollers and if its sludged up you'll need to replace the Rocker arms and the fulcrums. You can buy rockers but not the fulcrums and no, the rockers and parts from the 360/318 are not the same. I drive one everyday. The timing chain is a little noisy but never have had an issue. The WEAKEST PART OF ALL.....TORQUEFLIGHT POWER WEDGE WILL FALL OUT. Tighten the trans band before this happens, its the bolt on the side of the trans case. Check to see if the torque converter is blueing on the flexplate side. Overdrive is failing if so. Torqueflight trans are outdated trash.
7K is WAY too high for a 2nd gen v10 with closer to 200K miles. ESPECIALLY a 2wd in that condition cosmetically. I've heard Bring a Trailer is being run and prices driven up by shady people.
Got a 2500 4x4 one of these back a few years ago for just over $2k. By far the best truck I have ever owned. Even with a loaded 24' equipment trailer It does not care, just a mountain of torque. Started looking for one after seeing Winston over on Worthlesswhips manage to get a hi mileage one of these past CA emissions and then drive it cross country when they moved to the east coast. The block is basically an LA 360 with 2 extra cylinders and the A618 47RH behind is a descendant of the A727 that dates back to the early 60's out to an NP241 and 4:10 DANA 70 rear with an LSD and a DANA 60 on the front. Considering the prehistoric drivetrain its surprising it even pulls the mileage it does. What really makes this engine is the update to Distributor less ignition and direct port fuel injection paired with the mammoth intake runners. Unloaded I really have to watch my speed as I have found myself doing 75mph + with the tack only around 1700 RPM. Worst thing I can say about these aside from the 15mpg unloaded / 12-8 loaded is the dashes are made of the most awful brittle plastic ever (my dash cluster currently has a nice 6" skylight), and the Chrysler ("factory" dealer installed) alarm systems are laughably bad. I assumed the one in mine was some aftermarket toy from the AutoZone accessories isle due to the abundance of poorly placed zip ties and spice connectors until I found the part number on the main module cross referenced to the Factory Chrysler alarm system. Overall considering that the manual explicit says to only run 87 and the currently $2/gal price premium on diesel where I live its ends up about 4% less expensive over a couple hundred mile trip to run the same distance with this as a similar 5.9 would run, however every 5.9 I could find at the time was someone asking $10-20k for a truck with frame rot or some other catastrophic issue.
I absolutely agree. Plus i would add that if we look at the reliability nothing can beat an old petrol powered car/truck. Old diesels have a problem with age and high mileage, and are more complex then a simple petrol engine, so on a petrol the repairs will not only will be a lot simpler, but also cheaper. Also, since gas prices change so absurdly and artificially it makes no sense anymore to count on savings due to fuel type and consumption. The robustness of the tech, reliability, and buying price is everything, all the other things cant really make a positive difference. The 90s is the best time period from where to buy a vehicle. Most of them are relatively modern, but still simple enough for cheap maintenance
@@schooltechnology 94-97 cup holders were pretty much useless. The idea was great. Place the cup holders at eye level to keep from taking your eyes off the road. It practice though, any bump or turn usually resulted in a spilled drink. The 98-01 design was an improvement, but overtime the plastic hinges don't hold up well. As with most things, trial & error. Dodge should've integrated the cup holders with the center console, like the newer trucks.
@@AngryCatMan1982 Believe me, I KNOW. I owned a 94 1500. I got used to making turns with my left hand only. The other was stabilizing my drink. Things got better when the bottom flap broke out of the driver's side cupholder. Smaller cups would fall through but some of the larger cups with small bottoms sat low enough that after a few sips normal turns wouldn't overturn them.
@@schooltechnology Yep! I've had a few tipped drinks as well. About 10 years ago I bought cup holders that attach to the center console. The dash cup holders have been decorative ever since.
Awesome video and advice. Well bought! Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge. It's videos like yours that help people make rational decisions. Last but not least, that is a beautiful truck.
I bought a '99 2500 V10 with only 110k miles and loaded to the gills (new AT tires/winch/cattle guards/5th wheel) for only $6000 because it had an "engine noise". The engine noise was just an old belt 🤣. Outside of a tune up, new water pump and a crankshaft position sensor, this truck has worked perfectly! It's used for the deer lease (light off-roading/the occasional hauling) and it suits my needs perfectly!
I own 2. F350 7.3 diesels. Both 2002 one is a dually xtra cab. The other is crew cab and I have owned it since new. It has original drivetrain and has run good both my kids drove it I towed a 5th wheel & boat . Live in north east so replacement body panels have been done. Other is a plow truck for now till I get body work done and brakes done. They run and with a small chip you wake up the power .. I’ll keep them they are reliable 👍
My mind still thinks that's too expensive. To my mind that truck with that mileage and condition ought to be closer to $3,500 but the truck market has been off its rocker for a couple decades now. If you ever want to fix that dash though LMC makes nice replacements. I did my 2003 Ram 1500 for under $500 shipped to my door.
As long as it runs and doesn't have a major failure 7k ok. If your just going to haul on your lot heavy loads that's not a problem. I see with what you mean by 3500 for minor issues like paint dash . But the main power train is really what matters
@@southfloridaoffroadrecover7251 The thing they are saying is cars don't have real market value , it's worth what you will pay for it. It's not like a house we're it has a market value. I'm not sure how they calculate car value what formula are they using to say this car is priced at 4k used
@@Ka_Gg here in Alabama any truck is overpriced 99% of the time. People ask $6k for 5.3 half ton Chevrolets with over a quarter million miles. Add about 20% if it's 4x4.
Looks great for a 1997 dually. If you got it in Kansas the underbody looks really great. If your not going to have it professionally painted then I would buy some rattle cans and protect the metal.
I have a 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 5 speed 4x4, it had 24,000 miles on it when I got it at the end of September 2003 . It now has 180,000 miles. Replaced radiator, radio, front right axle shaft right front axle seal,bed due to rust ,rear bumper and the battery every 7 years, and the front drag link.
Those air conditioners are top notch. Had mine nearly 30 years since new. AC still ice cold never touched it. Your exterior is a bit nicer than mine but my interior is in nearly perfect condition. I've got the 2500 5 speed 4x4. Thanks for the video
I have you beat Wizard! A 1985 Chevrolet 3500 4WD crewcab dually with the 454 and Automatic transmission. Loaded, Unloaded, Uphill, Downhill, 6-7 MPG. My dad bought it new, I owned it since. It's great for the occasional need, just don't use it as a commuter LOL.
With the cost of propane right now I wonder how that would work on the v10. My late grandfathers 68 ford pickup has a propane powered hopped up 428fe was going to go back to gas and sell but might leave the propane in light of prices
If you can fill up a propane pickup locally that isn't a big deal. However, in many places you can't just do that (fortunately my area has two gas stations with a propane pump). Just be damn careful out on the two tracks -- if you rupture a propane line on a hump you will be in for a REALLY bad day -- as in your truck will probably explode, especially if someone in the cab has a cigarette fired up at the time! I have never owned a propane power truck, my nephew had a 1990's Chevy that had been converted to run on either propane or gas but he never put propane in it to even see if that feature worked (it was something he bought for $500 or so to get to and from work). The truck drove fine on gas and he drove it for several years until someone rear ended him at 60m/h and totaled it out (we couldn't even get it on my sister's car hauling trailer to get it to her house to store it until the insurance BS was finished -- he needed it kept for examination because of an injury sustained in the crash).
Consider most diesels don't do much more than 13 mpg towing...also diesel around here costs $1.50 more a gallon so your fuel cost is about equal. With NO smog equipment headaches!! Great buy, wizard!!!
What do you think the V10 is gonna do? That’s 10 mpg empty. You put 8K lbs behind it and it’s gonna get about 3 mpg and no that’s not an exaggeration. The fuel cost is nowhere near equal. My deleted ‘12 gets 21 mpg empty and with 15K lbs gets probably about 9.5. My truck literally gets the same mileage with 15K lbs added to it over an empty V10 truck. That’s nowhere near equal. Plus if you’re using a V10 to haul heavy like you can a Cummins you’re lucky if you make it to 150K miles. How many 1000 mile round trips pulling 5K - 10K lbs is a V10 gonna last through?
Technically, you do have a 4 wheel drive...they are just all on one axle :)
4x6 🤣 makes sense
For highway towing, you don't want 4x4. Extra weight and road noise
If its open differential it's two wheel drive on one side of the axle
@@jimbeam7111 true lol my Ram had a locking rear. I don't know who is taking their dually off road through conditions bad enough to get you stuck, but personally I find that scenario unrealistic. Especially with the added trailer weight above the dually axle.
Technically, yes it is 4wd. But speaking from someone who owns almost that same truck but 4x4 and diesel, I can regrettably tell you it doesn’t take much to get a 4x4 dually stuck
The Dodge truck V-10 was a very solid performer. Yes it’s mileage sucked, but it made up for it with great reliability!
Get the Cummins if you want fuel economy as well!
citibank saying 65 dollar oil.. i know this isn't the channel for this, however short oil with "sco" stock etf or "drip" etf stock be well
No it did not! It was a pig!
@EB Indy inefficient in terms of fuel economy but good in every other way. Reliable, strong and way cheaper than a diesel.
Yes, but not the Dodge red paint from 1985-2002. Always fading so badly and clear coat peeling.
The V10s actually had more tow capacity than the Cummins, their fuel economy was their biggest weakness (duh). Now with diesel being more expensive, diesel engines being costly to maintain, the new diesel trucks getting worse mileage thanks to the new emissions regs since 2007, and new trucks in general being priced to the moon, the old V10 trucks suddenly look less daunting.
Except for the weak 13,000lb towing capacity compared to a modern Cummins with 35,000lb towing capacity…
@@nathan1sixteen Given how many guys are still fighting over old Cummins trucks rather than going bankrupt over the new ones, I'm sure that 13000lb is plenty for them. Given how much the new diesel trucks cost out the gate, their more expensive & more consistent maintenance intervals, and their lower fuel economy, the older diesels at markup are still cheaper by comparison, and the V10 gassers even cheaper by comparison. This is one of those markets where sellers keep price gouging because people keep clamoring for the newest thing, and the only way to get prices to drop at this rate is for buyers to opt-out or opt for used trucks until the new market bottoms out.
@@knote4958 Well, to begin, the reason a lot of this started was due to the chip shortage where you couldn’t get a new truck because they didn’t have enough chips to make them. So, people were going out and buy older used trucks because that’s all that was available. You go back 3-4 years (well after all the emissions crap was required) and you could get a 12v Cummins or a 7.3 powerstroke with 150k miles for 5 grand. I know because I was looking at them, and if I wasn’t in college at the time, I would’ve bought one.
Now, with that being said, 90% of truck owners don’t need a truck, let alone more than 13,000lb towing capacity. Studies and surveys consistently show that a vast majority of people who own trucks never do “truck stuff” with them, like using the bed or towing. But, that’s not what the wizard was arguing. He stated that “guys who are actually towing are buying the v10s because their more reliable”. No, guys who are actually aren’t buying 25-30 year old trucks, because there’s a lot more to a truck than the power train. Having comfortable seats and the other amenities that new truck offer helps make those long hauls a bit more comfortable. Not constantly pushing your trucks towing capacity is also nice. I mean, just because your trucks rated to tow 13k doesn’t mean you should be towing that every day. But, if you’re trucks rated for 30k, it will tow 13k all day every day no problem
Now im a die hard ford guy and I hate cummins, but the reason for that is because of the extra weight of the diesel engine itself, and dodge had to follow a gvwr, sure the v10 could tow more on paper with the numbers, but the cummins did it way better with ease im sure, the diesel probably weighted 900 pounds and the gas was probably 500 or so. that extra 400 lbs of capacity is taken away from the diesel, while the gas gained 400 lbs of capacity etc.
@@7.3powerstroke6 12 valve is 1100lbs, v10 is 830ish, not a huge difference, v10=300hp 12v180hp, v10 has 3 times the usable rpm band, v10 walks all over a STOCK cummins.
My Dad told me years ago, "You can buy a newer expensive car and get great gas mileage, or you can buy an old car for less and spend the money you save on fuel." In our state, a newer truck would also cost a lot more to register the license plates each year. Buying that beast was brilliant, and a perfect choice. Thanks for sharing!
Newer doesnt mean better fuel mileage to me it just means more crap to break
@@nou8257 All those amenities and efficiency come at a cost.
Exactly. I have 2 cars, one is a brand new Hyundai I bought for my gf for good fuel mileage and safety, finance is 100 bucks a week... The other is my 1992 Merc W140 that absolutely chews fuel but I paid cash for it and it's absolutely beautiful.
We drive around the same amount per week, which is a LOT, but factoring fuel in the Merc and payments + fuel for the Hyundai, the W140 is cheaper to run. Of course I could have bought an economical car for cash but that's not why we're on this channel!
You could also get an older fuel-efficient car.
@@theundergroundlairofthesqu9261 honda, toyota, had great cars, an old escort pony could get up to 40 mpg highway, mid 30s city
I bought a '96 Ram 2500 4wd with the V10 back in 2008, which was the last time gas went nuts. Paid $2500 for it because NOBODY wanted it. Was a great truck!
“Was a great truck”
What happened to it?
Magnum v10 is one of the best, most reliable, and torquey gas engines for towing of all time. They run forever.
Just follow the manual and it'll be fine for years. Skimp on maintenance and label for recycling.
Hell the Ford V10 was incredibly reliable also. I see them with 300k all the time where i live.
The transmission is not the best
Its unfortunate. Dodge with their V10, Ford with Their V10, and GM with their V8 were all very good motors. Maybe if they somehow made them more efficient. No one likes the numbers at the pump, even though they probably could buy years of gas instead of paying for a new, fuel efficient car's loan, all the while pay the hidden cost of depreciation
@@gunshipproduct2 I think its the transmissions of the time that really killed them more than anything. It was also tough because back then there wasn't much difference in gas and diesel at the pump, usually diesel was less and diesel maintenence wasn't that expensive back then either. Nowadays with better transmissions like the Ford 10 speed and the insane maintenance costs of new diesels I think gas engines are looking at a 3rd life in the HD truck world. That relatively short golden age of the light duty diesel in pickups is long gone, but man was it fun while it lasted!
I recently purchased a 1998 Ram 2500 V10 4x4 Quadcab with an 8ft bed. 118k miles and I love it (it's not my daily). I upgraded the steering box and added a steering stabilizer. Mint interior and no cracked dash (seem more common in the US than Canada). I paid $6500 CAD and I am 3rd owner. Minimal surface rust on the arches but cab corners all good.
Sounds like a good deal ! Good luck hope it continues to serve you well
The sun on the south is just murder on plastics. But, sometimes so is cold if you whack it.
@@risingstar1309 Thank you sir. I am hoping so too.
the cracked dashes are definitely more common in the US. i have an online friend in canada that has a 96/97 1500 5.2 v8 thats twice totaled and the dash is perfect. he works in a junkyard and basically all the dashes he sees there are near perfect. My 01 1500 5.2 v8 has a cracked dash (but not destroyed) and my roommates 01 2500 5.9 v8 is missing multiple pieces of the dash. An old coworker of mine also had an 01 1500 5.9 v8 and its dash was in about the same shape as mine.
@@Bingo1Dog Yeah its weird, a local Diesel/truck shop said they rarely see the dash in pieces like you see in the US, like it is jaw dropping how bad they get.
It really shows that in the past 5-10 years fuel efficiency and emissions standards prompted manufacturers to get into a realm of way too much complexity to meet them. It's this awkward period where electric is just starting to be ready for prime time and gas is being pushed beyond reasonable efficiencies.
Thanks to the Green warriors...those same warriors that fly private jets..all hypocrites
@@EarthSouthside the whole carbon footprint idea is a scam anyways.
I planted 25 seeds of grass in my yard to offset my farts
@@EarthSouthside yeah a lot of American cars that gets exported to Europe gets mostly converted to run on CNG much cheaper than petrol .
@@EarthSouthside Burning methane produces significantly less carbon emissions than petroleum.
Electric prime time?? Dude get real, we *cannot* convert all current car/truck use to batteries, it's *not* technically nor practically possible to achieve the same use as we do now.
Making me feel good about my 1999.5 F250 SD 7.3 I bought at the bottom of the market in 2008/2009. It's been a great truck. Has 205k miles now. Paid $8150 for it which included $650 for a new matching color 8' take off bed. I plan on keeping it forever.
Keep it forever if you can! They are so, SO much better than the modern ones with so much "amenities" and emissions bull-hockey.
buy ekrric f25⁰
I am totally with you about this truck being a value. I recently bought a 115k mile 2003 Yukon XL for 8000 dollars, and the same argument can be made about it. The new models cost 70-80k or more, the engine has major longevity issues, and the difference in fuel economy is negligible. When the purchase price is 10% of what a new one costs, the difference in fuel mileage is moot.
If many know a mid 1990's ram 3500 dually with the V10 is a steal when if one has tips to wear clothing they don't mind getting dirty when looking at a mid Y2K GMC Yukon XL as seeing a for sale sign in the window has one look over the vehicle to know its worth the effort to call the owner for a test drive when potential buyers urge the seller to take the vehicle to a mechanic the buyer trusts for a pre-purchase inspection. Depending on trim level has many knowing new models can top $100,000 as with options as if many knowingly want the 6.2 as if they are driving the new SUV off a dealership lot for $120,000.
Those v10 gassers will come up in value soon enough. Maintenance alone is much less expensive on a gasser as well. Parts are much more affordable.
Completely agree, when you factor in the diesel is more than $1.00 gallon more expensive the slightly better fuel efficiency is no longer an factor. I prefer the 8.1 Vorteck big block but the Dodge V10 is also a solid choice.
longevity is also a factor vs the diesel and the diesel easily makes more power with upgrades while retaining or gaining fuel mileage also I can run my truck on oil if I had to
Slightly better mpg? A 12 valve easily gets double the mileage and with some running twice the power and still twice the mpg.
most diesels get twice the mpg compared to the 8.1 and the v10 empty, towing is still about 5mpg better with a diesel , therefore a $1 is worth paying for another 8-10 mpg. I have both the 8.1 and a duramax lb7, so i speak from experience
@@Tommy-bl2vm You also pull up the hill doing far less rpm with the diesel.
@@Tommy-bl2vm i can vouch for Diesels i got a 2005 F250 Harley Davidson edition with ALOT of aftermarket mods. 6.0L Powerstroke. gets about 29 mpg highway and 20 towing highway a 2022 bronco on a car trailer. and my 2019 F250 platinum all bone stock all the emissions crap on it still. which recently broke at 70k miles emissions crap not the motor. i am getting 13.7-15 MPG towing or not towing highway. pretty much identical no matter what im doing with it... i think im gonna delete it before warranty's even up just because i calculated it out with the 30k more miles i need to drive it with the minimum 5.5 dollars a gallon for diesel in my area i will be spending atleast $12039 in fuel. vs if i delete it now. $1034 on fuel for the same distance. this calculations for unloaded highway.... itll probably be a bit higher but 12k VS 1k in fuel costs. not to mention down time because emissions crap broke. or breaks
Earlier this year I sold my ‘02 F350 7.3 Dually with 86k miles for $39,000. It was probably one of the nicest 7.3 Powerstrokes left in the country.
"7.3 powerstroke" sounds naughty
@@joecool9739 it is
@@joecool9739 🤨 📸
I have a 2002 7.3 crew cab long box 4x4 manual trans also. I'll never sell it. I think it's the best truck ever built by man. Put brakes on it at 103000 miles. Now has only 105000 miles.
My coworker has a 110k mile 7.3 4x4 no dually with absolutely zero blemishes. In michigan too where theres nothing but rust. He's been offered 50k for it and turned it down.
Car Wizard, you are one of the few mechanics out there that has experience with the aluminum block Viper V-10 and the iron block Ram V-10. I'd love to see a video where you compare and contrast these engines. I think that would be pretty interesting. There's a lot of misconceptions about them. For example, the Viper is often said to have a truck engine, even though its version went into production before the Ram's. The Viper V-10 is often called a Lamborghini engine, which way overstates their development work on some prototype V-10s they built for Chrysler. Next time you are working on a Viper, I would love to see it parked next to the Ram and hear your thoughts and opinions on these engines. I think that would make am interesting video. Cheers!
Good point. They certainly shared some parts but having a different block says a lot.
Also some comparisons about using cast iron vs Aluminum heads.
We bought one for the same reasons to haul our car trailer. 4wd single rear wheels though. Would have loved to found a manual dually! Great video Wiz!
I love my 95 v10 !!! Costs me a fortune in gas but it’s incredibly reliable. Starts everyday, never let me stranded and I’ve towed hundreds if not thousands of pounds of weight at a single time and it doesn’t skip a beat .
If it still has the plastic thermostat housing replace it with an aluminum one. It's definitely a good truck for the money.
Damn it dude quite throwing us under the bus it took years of us to keep people away from our V10's and kept it quiet now here you are running your mouth and letting the world know so thanks a lot!!!
He gone make the value go up 😂🤣
@@ElgrandeChungiguey thats what i don't want i want to be able to pick them up running and driving for $1500 lol
Lol your not lying cause here the prices of trucks in general are going up and one of these a easy 10k in the shittiest of conditions
Not sure Wizard will be the spark for that flame. People everywhere have been catching onto this, and not just with Rams. Used to not be able to get much out of a V10 F250, but now they are going up.
@@platinumuschannel the tiny Ford 6.7 v10 even fire made for more hp then torque. Dodge 8.0 v10 odd fire built for torque. It's basically 2 l5s put together.
It’s something about older trucks that are so simple but yet timeless. I use to do hotshot with a 2018 Ram 3500. I did like how well it towed and thankfully I never had emission system issues but I can definitely understand why some of the guys want to go to older diesels. Even in the big rig world some of the guys want pre 2000 engines.
I’ve been a car/truck enthusiast for YEARS and I never knew a v10 was an option in this generation of dodge. Who knew!
At work we sold a F-450 with a 19’ bucket. The company was too cheap to overhaul the hydraulic system for the bucket, so every time we tried to use it, it started puking hydraulic fluid somewhere. We bought it new in 2001, it had a grand total of 14,000 miles on it. It sold for a whopping big price of…… $7200! Pull the lift and put a standard 8’ bed on it, and you would have virtually a 20 year old new truck!! It was an international diesel, manual shift 4wd. What a great work truck, for dirt cheap! Once we pretty much quit using it, all that happened with it was start it weekly and take a 20 mile ride monthly. The 4wd was useless, but it had a winch on front and rear, cold AC, 3kw inverter. A great work truck, 10 MPG anytime. There are good deals on the older diesel trucks, but you have to really search.
That’s a lie
@@Zephyrmec Wouldn't it be cheaper to overhaul or replace the bucket lift than to buy a new truck with a new bucket lift? I have never overhauled a bucket lift but I can't imagine it being more costly than a new truck with a new lift on it. People used to ask why I had engines and transmissions rebuilt in my vehicles (when they only lasted 150K-200K miles before needing a rebuild) for $1500-$3000, I would then ask how much their new car cost them. They would answer (at the time) $20K-$30K. If I can get another five years out of a car or truck, it is worth the $3000. For the record my sister had her automatic transmission rebuilt in her mid 2000's Chevy Suburban, she removed and re-installed it herself (if you met her you would figure it out) but it cost her $500 plus the gas to get to the rebuilding guy (about 200 miles round trip -- we both live in a rural area), I priced a Jasper transmission for it and it was about $4000 plus they would only ship to a certified mechanic (yeah, I would probably have been stupid enough to write that check without much hesitation if it had been my truck since a new one would be about $60K, if I got two years out of it before everything else went to hell it would have been worth it to me and her mid 2000's Chevy 3/4 ton pickup has 350K miles on it and still runs fine whereas the Suburban only has about 250K on it). A year later her transmission seems to be fine and she tows a heavy trailer regularly.
If many known when Chrysler was still an independent automaker when after the restyling in 1994 has many knowing a magnum V10 was an option in 2500 and larger rams in relation to ford and its triton family of engines which included a triton V10. If those trying to sell a second and or third gen ram when if potential buyers question wanting the transition era of the Cummins as if they wanted the late 12 valve or the early 24 valve as if potential buyers are told the ram they are interested in buying has the LA series of engines including the V10 when if the seller hears a click then a dial tone as the potential buyer is after a Cummins.
David, I heard from someone who knew an engineer at Chrysler who told him about the transmissions in those years of trucks. He said the engineer told him at the time his boss didn't want to hear about certain plastic parts in those transmissions would fail. Using stronger parts would've been the better way to go. His boss didn't want to hear it as saving those costs with plastic parts were his ticket to a bonus and possible promotion. Eventually Chrysler had massive failures in those transmissions leading to recalls and rebuilds.
And that boss still got his bonus.
A few years ago, I worked in the parts department of a local Toyota/Lexus dealership. On my last day there (I had accepted a position at another place), one of the mechanics (who was hearing impaired) was raising a 3 month old Tacoma truck on one of the hydraulic lifts, and was looking at his cell phone while it was going up. He had placed one of the lift points incorrectly, and the truck fell off of the lift! Thankfully, no one was injured, but the customer wound up with a brand new truck, and the mechanic wound up looking for another job!
I remember walking into the Ford dealership I purchased a car from years ago for warranty work. I walk up to the Service Desk and noticed there was no one at the desk. I look out into the shop, and there was this BEAUTIFUL Saleen Mustang.... Laying on it's passenger side after it fell off the lift! I didn't ask what happened, but, I found another Ford dealer to have my warranty work done.
At least his disability didn't keep him from being fired. Believe it or not earlier this year at a dealership in Georgia where my brother-in-law works, an older valet with foot neuropathy slammed the gas pedal down on a car in the shop instead of the brake and pinned a service tech to his death against a wall. The valet still works there.
@@seeburg10 insanity
What does his hearing impairment have anything to do with what happened on the lift? It happens to hearing mechanics too. Jeez!
"What"?
I just want to thank you for posting all these videos, my dad is a mechanic and he never wanted to show me and take the time to explain to me how to fix cars cause he would say it was a man's job even when I wanted to learn. dont ever stop posting please, youre changing my life lmao!!!!
your dad is a idiot gender shouldnt matter even if you didnt make a career out of it just knowing things about your car saves you money
I'm a mechanic, and I've never bought into that BS about it being a "man's job". I've worked with several women mechanics and they were just as good as any guy. Follow your dream! Ojalá tengas exito!
I have a soft spot for this truck. I’m 24 and learned to drive stick in. 99 3500 with the Cummins and a 6 speed transmission in the hay fields. It had to be the easiest way to learn just because it was damn near impossible to stall it.
See i think diesels are too easy for people to start out learning stick in since it's hard to stall them. Since they spoil you with their torque and it makes it a sudden shock when you get in a gas vehicle with a stick and find out very quickly what works in a diesel doesn't work in a gas.
I learned to drive stick in a dodge neon dad had on the lot killed it many times but figured it out in a few mins ever sense if its got wheels i can drive it.
@@nou8257 yeah no, I agree. It’s definetly to easy haha and doesn’t translate well to a low torque vehicle. But luckily I had grasped the manual transmission thing from riding four wheelers and also the truck. So when I got in a car it was a smoother transition
I learned standard in a 1992 Ford festiva. Dad had brought me on the frozen Ottawa River in January...best way to learn lol, no head bopping and no stalling.
@@ericbrule4465 haha that is gnarly and frightening
@@worldrage619 made it easier on the clutch and the neck lol
You tell it just like it is! One of the reasons I like your channel and will continue watching.
Totally unbiased and 100% accurate!
I think the V10 Ram was one of the most enjoyable trucks I owned, especially the 5 speed 2500, I wish I had kept it to be honest, I did replace it with a 3500 V10 fully loaded leather, woodgrain etc.
It ended up being too much truck though, I don’t haul anything heavy and I just liked the acceleration of the V10, I ended up selling it for a Tundra as I needed a better ride with decent acceleration that was more self sufficient.
V10’s are hard to sell, most people don’t realize they aren’t too far away in fuel economy from a 5.2 and 5.9 v8 and they accelerate 20x better, most people are looking for ways to get more power out of the 5.2 and 5.9 V8, the V10 would be a better solution.
Young people see the Cummins as a race engine, then there’s people who are into industrial and agriculture that love it, those things coupled with new diesel emissions drive the prices insane.
A lot of people today forgot back in the 90’s the V10 was top dog, drive a stock Cummins of the same vintage you’ll see they don’t move too swiftly but they pull anything at will, where as the V10 moved with ease and pulled the same.
Of course with the aftermarket you can’t compare them the Cummins wins all day but I liked the V10 no hard starts in cold weather, nothing to modify or mess with, great as is turn key and go.
He did a nice cherry pick of those Trucks he compared the prices to at start. I find a lot of things The so called "Car Wizard" does is what He complains other shops or Mechanics do. For example when He Put a new cv boot on the front drive shaft on one of Tyler's Mercedes suv's. He charged him to remove the front cv shaft, then clean and regrease the joint and replace the rubber cv boot. after a very short time the joint failed.
He then charged Tyler for a 2nd hand cv shaft and labour to fit it. If that would of been myself i would of thrown that bill back at Him. He told him that it was worn out and it needed to be replaced. Why didn't He tell him that when he had it apart to regrease it and replace the rubber cv boot. If it was that badly worn, He should of never regreased it and put a new boot on it in the first place. If one of my guys had done that, they would be looking for a new job. The so called "Car wizard" should have replaced that cv shaft for no cost. I know you can't really technically put a warranty on used parts, But He just had thing torn apart. so he would of seen it needed replacing. He is very good at calling a lot of other Mechanics out, but He does a lot of things that ar just as bad. I think he is forgetting a lot of things now He is a Big You tube star.
As long as your business doesn't rely in towing this is a great dependable truck. If your business core is towing related then you probably want something that is as cheap as possible to run, but in this case if you only plan to tow not so often and need something reliable you can bite the bullet with the gas mileage. And I completly agree with the other comments. 94-02 rams are the best looking trucks. Since I saw them in 94 for the first time I'm hoping to get one some day.
I went through the same math as the wizard in Jan/Feb before I bought a 1991 C3500 with a freshly (overbuilt) transmission behind a 454 with similar mileage as this V10 beast. Obviously it needed things here and there, but the guy who ordered it with LITERALLY every option available to him at the time of purchase took great care of it. I felt silly spending 5k on a truck that gets used sparingly throughout the year after gas prices went crazy but...it doesn't really matter when I need to haul big loads. Cause those loads need to go from there to here, and the minimal use I put it through means it will last forever. Also, I'm a sucker for bordello red mousefurr interior.
Had the 1996 2500 V10 back when they were new as a company vehicle. Absolute beast. 10 MPG is generous. Maybe going downhill on the highway!!!
With a tail wind! Uncle had a 1996 2500 V8 and it struggled to hit 10 MPG. One hell of a work truck though.
Funny dad had 2 85 dodges with 318 v8, got the same exact fuel mileage as this here v10.
Yall were hauling that many abducted children around in the 90s Epstein
@@cleonituk my 318 got 11mpgs. Best motor I ever owned though.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 100 percent.
The Vortec 8100 is a good option too. I got my GMC 2500 at a good price and intend on keeping it.
Yours truly,!!!
There's a legend of a 8100 powered GMT800 called Stanley that is a scrap yard truck, look it up and check it out
While not the same, I just got a 02 suburban 2500. 8.1. Was debating Silverado dually. But realistically, that exceeds my use.
Old is gold. My work car is now 16 years old. It's not that I can't afford something newer, it's just that everyone I know with a new car keeps breaking down. Yeah, it's not perfect and things break, but when they do, I can normally fix them faster and cheaper myself than if I paid someone to do it.
Wizard: "This car is just for heavy loads..."
Beavis: "Hehe, Wizard said LOADS".
I've had four of them v10s and never once had a complaint about them. I had one two wheel drive that got good mileage about 12 in town and somehow 17 on the freeway. But I didn't drive it hard and it was two wheel drive. Made one trip from boise to Gooding idaho, must've had a good tail wind but managed to only use 5 gallons of fuel going down for 112 miles pump to pump. I thought the gage was broken
My 08 ford diesel gets 18mpg pulling my bumper pull trailer with whatever you want behind it and 21mpg empty highway my 02 does 16 to 17mpg with its manual trans dads cummins gets 15 no matter what you do to it
@@nou8257 a gas. Only deleted diesel
@@rajanrairealty8979 my 02 doesnt have any emissions systems deleted because it never came with any but yeah the 08 had all the goverment bullshit gone when i got the truck
I got 04 n 2011. Both fine
What’s with the transmission issues I see come up when researching this era Dodge? Have my eye on one but worried about weak transmission. Thanks in advance
I have a '00 F250 4x4 crew cab short bed with the 6.8l V10. 220K, runs fine, 8mpg towing, 10 in town. Paid 4000 for it with 151K 8 years ago. I wanted a cummins or a powerstroke but even 8 years ago prices were double or more for trucks with twice the miles.
Ive operated e450, f550, and 350 trucks/ buses with engine. Theybare amazingly reliable and can handle 10000lb loads on a daily basis.
The early 5.9 Cummings 6-12-6 mechanical fuel injected diesels are worth their weight. My brother has a pair from new 1992 Dodge Ram W250 that work their butts off.
But you are correct, these early Iron block V10's were powerful and nearly indestructible. The underside looks great. Back when a Dodge was a Dodge. They were work trucks first and foremost as is evident by an all-Analog gage set, love that.
Back when trucks weren't luxury items and were made to last forever.
@@myk1_sp true, so true. I blame Lincoln and the Navigator for starting the "Massive blinged out SUV/Truck trend that has led to what we have today.
@@ditzydoo4378 I would've thought it's the Escalade EXT or the Lincoln Blackwood.
From what I have seen of your work the truck is in good hands,and a machine returns well when kept properly.respect to you sir.
Car wizard i was able to buy a 1995, Ram 2500 4x4 with the manual transmission and the legendary 12 valve engine. The trucks brilliant blue metallic i was able to get it right before the pandemic with 45,800 original miles it currently has 47,013. I paid what i thought was a large amount of money for the pickup but with current prices of pre emission diesels it has doubled in value from what i paid for it.
So come on....how much did you pay?
@@Blue-moon12 I would rather not disclose and exact amount, but I will say I paid pretty what the truck sold for brand new in 1995.
So you paid 25,000+ you can buy the same truck out here for nine grand in California Oregon Washington
@@jasonfarnsworth5880 please show me where you can find a rust free gardge kept manual 4x4 12 valve with low milage for 9k. I'll pay ya 5k finders fee for everyone you find. 🤣 🤣 I really don't think you have any idea what your talking about my friend.
@@morganmiskell1803 I just bought one
This is the same philosophy I used when I bought my 2013 6.2 F250. Yeah it doesn't get the greatest gas mileage and a 7.3 will out tow it up a hill, but my gawd I couldn't justify spending $30k extra just for the pleasure of running a Diesel when I'm not towing 24/7, plus the 6.2 is a tank of an engine which is easy to maintain.
Yeah, but you’re missing out on all the cool turbo diesel noises
6.2L is a great engine. I just got an 11 F150 Platinum w/6.2. Runs like new. 186K. I got 18.5 mpg on a long highway trip. Nothing really to write home about but the engine is extremely reliable! I towed 8K lbs with it already. No problem.
I just can't give up diesel, the extra cost is something I am willing to put up with, love my 2011 6.7 powerstroke, tows my 16,000lb 5th wheel loaded up with side x side with ease. I still have my 2002 7.3 powerstroke as well. I removed all the emissions on my 2011 it's a very reliable truck.
Why not? Buy something like that today and you're spending at least $70,000 to $80,000. Drove one for years as a company truck and put on it 300,000 MI never broke down. (Except for the seats).
And, as a bonus, it'll cruise down the highway at 85 like it's at idle!
Right. If you using it towing stuff. It's equipped it's v10 still can do the job. Your paying for the v10 and features , not the age of vehicle
Yeah, but for that extra $63-73k you get Apple CarPlay
@@trefontaine Nice 😅
@@trefontaine Incredibly easy to install aftermarket radio with carplay...
My wife and her father run a landscaping company, and one of the trucks they have is a 2019 Ford F350 4WD with a large dump-bed, a dually rear axle, and they tow a double-axle equipment trailer that's got to weigh 7,000+ pounds loaded, easily. It's got the 6.2L V8, and they're lucky to get 6 or 7 MPG when it's fully loaded. But man, it hauls all that stuff with zero issues. Sometimes you just *have* to go big or go home, when you need to get a heavy-duty job done. And modern Diesels suck so bad, as you mentioned. The extra money you pay for the lower MPG with gasoline is MORE than worth it when you factor in the extra cost of purchasing a Diesel truck and maintaining it.
Wizard: "You can't use a Chevy with the 5.3 or you'll burn up the transmission."
Also Wizard: Buys Dodge truck
Right lol dodges are known for their bad transmissions 😂
So are Fords in the '99-'03 era at least for the autos. Dodge and Ford from that era are tied in that area for having weak autos, although from my understanding, the manuals during that era were solid for both. GM had the best auto gearbox of the three starting in '01 at least for diesels.
@@DFX4509B GM stuck the 4L80 behind most of the bigger gas engines on the 3/4 and 1T pickups. The Allison was leaps and bounds ahead of anything else being offered in ‘01, but the good old 4L80e (and the TH400 before it) was no slouch either.
@@DFX4509B You are correct about both of your statements!
Shows what he actually knows! Hahajaha!!
Someone told me something prophetic one time:
"If you find a 20 year old Dodge Ram with the Cummins engine for sale for $21,000, you are looking at a $20,000 engine bolted into a $1000 truck".
The truck is the shipping crate for the engine
@@volvo09 Hahah! Perfect-
I'm lucky I bought a 12 valve engine for $1,500 last year out of a box truck. To swap into my Chevy. No way could I afford a dodge truck with a Cummins in it.
What good is the engine if the truck sucks?...
@@the8419 You sure don't see me driving one man!
Did the same calculation a few years ago. My father had a 96 d3500 cummins standard cab with the trans out if it (4th time) when my truck got totaled out for me while it was parked. Originally was going to buy the old Dodge off of pops, but had gotten used to an extended cab truck. So I hunted for a good heavy truck like this one. Bought a really nice 01 x-cab Ford Super Duty v10 2wd with ~155k on it for $6500. We going to put the 12v in the Ford, but then diesel went through the roof - Obama administration timeframe. If drive the truck around a bit and really liked how it towed and etc, was getting 13-15mpg, 19v heavy loaded. Did the math, couldn't make Finnair sense out of it. My nephew bought the 96 and fixed it back up, I'm still driving the old has hog. Fuel pump, some brakes, set of coils and plugs at 215k, and many, many heavy trailer loads later- still my favorite and still going strong. Love the old gas hogs, and good luck with the old work truck!
Love the 94-02 rams. Best looking truck made in my opinion. My dad had a 98 diesel 4x4 like this. The v10 is underrated, very powerful and reliable. I’m kinda looking around for a 2500 4x4 like this. Maybe just a v8 but I’ll take a v10 if it comes along.
I got one in missouri has 39k miles on motor
@@Hadsallhouf nice. You looking to sell ? It’s probably outta my range with that low mileage.
Yea body has 190k on it but have paper work for the motor and work done on it. I'd sell it for 9k has new mickey Thompsons mtzs on it to
I had a 98 with the 318 "Magnum" engine in it and it had over 400,000 miles on it when I sold it. Still ran good!
I have 96 with 128000 on it. It's in good shape
Just picked up a 2001 Dodge 1500, 4x4 ,5.9, extra cab, 165k miles, it was headed for donation but I intercepted... trans & rear axle rebuilt already. only needs suspension & steering and seat bottom. a few little things like battery, cracked lights. Planning to use for lighter load towing - will add a cooler. The motor purrs. Hope a few thou invested will make for durable and lasting extra vehicle.
I love reading threads on the Dodge forum about how to bypass bad emissions components. “Stick a screw in that hose, it’s robbing your horsepower” “Take that air pump out, it’s just extra weight” “Cut that belt, ya don’t need it” and now people paying for a brand new one are being stopped when a sensor goes out. That’s ridiculous.
I totally agree about the newer diesels. We had a 2017 F250 with a 6.7L diesel in it. I loved the power that it put out but I couldn't afford to keep it on the road. The (all) emissions-related repairs killed us. We bought the truck to pull a 25' travel trailer across the country and back and kept it for only a short while after returning. 'Exhaust filter plugged' and finally a pair of O2 sensors a week apart cost us $2,000.00. Ford's answer was that I didn't drive it hard enough - "Drive it like you stole it!!" - they told me. And the problem isn't really 'manufacturer' based - it's the damned government calling for impossible to meet emission standards for a problem that, by-in-large, no longer even exists with newer Diesel engines. ("I'm here from the government and I'm here to help you". No, you're not. Go away!)
I got an emergency tow once, when the tow truck arrived it idled up and self cleaned the exhaust. Truck driver didn’t know how to overrride/ override was only for dire situations. So we waited. And waited. Then loaded up
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Seriously though, I needed to get a second car to ferry my son around in. It made more sense to buy a Falcon (of Australia), a car with a 4.0L inline 6 than to buy Corolla of similar condition for twice as much. For a car that was going to sit on the street most of the time, the fuel economy argument didn't matter.
I did find that the Falcon used about the same or less fuel than my EJ25 powered Liberty (Legacy) wagon. Around 10L/100km which is 23.5 miles per US gallon.
Those Ford Falcons look really sweet with that inline 6. I really hope Ford gives us something cool with this engine in the next few years when they start getting rid of most of their V8s. I can see them putting a big twin turbo kit on this engine and putting it in the next GT mustang.
Diesel fuel is the most expensive...so with a good gas powered engine I really think you made a very good and well thought out decision going with this V10 and NOT a diesel. Besides, like you said the price difference being in the 10s of thousands of dollars..."That's a lot of gasoline".
I had a '94 2500 2wd and loved it. If I remember right it was 300 hp which was good for back then. I believe I heard the motor was a modular design meaning it could have been built with up to 12 cylinders. I think the bore and stroke was the same as the v6. I was getting 15 mpg on the highway and that is about the same as a 360 was getting. But that was a while ago so I may be mis-rembering a little. 🙂
I would assume the guy being confused about 4x4 adding hauling capacity was going under the pre-assumption of farmwork or logging etc where in most places you NEED the 4x4 to get there and back, if its gonna be an on road truck 2by is definitely the better option
4x4 would put more weight on the steers which would be better if towing a ball dragger that pulls the front end up
@@juliogonzo2718 true but thats the thing, theres always circumstantial moments where one will beat the other in terms of performance, so it all really depends on what the driver is doing with it
Realistically, with duallys and a rear locker in it you won't ever need 4X4.
@@jimbusmaximus4624 Under a lot of circumstances sure, but there are still those moments when if you dont have 4x4 you aint moving, learned that lesson long ago lol
I had to laugh so hard. It probably doesn't happen to very many others, but the first commercial around the 4 minute mark for me was for new 1 ton Chevy trucks. They must have a search out for other manufacturer names in titles to get their truck to show in those videos.
I was reading your comment when I got it! 😂
You don't have Adblock? Fuck advertisements, I thought this was America.
I max pulled a trailer (~5,000lbs) across 3 states and back with my 2000 Jeep Grand Cherokee 4.0 inline 6 and managed to get 15mpg through Michigan and Ohio but once I got to Pennsylvania, my modified 5 speed automatic transmission never got out of 4th gear thanks to the hills, but it pulled great. These 2000s vehicles are reliable for critical towing without all that emissions crap that can go wrong or holding you back.
Oh and I paid $600 for that Jeep and put in at most $1,000. Mostly sensors, tires and brakes. 250k miles.
That's an updated version of the old AMC inline-6. An extremely robust and reliable unit Chrysler has never been able to replicate. In fact, the only weak point on 90s Cherokees is the garbage Chrysler automatic transmissions. With the 5-speed manual, they were truly bulletproof vehicles. That's good to hear you got a modified transmission, though. I really hope it gives you many years of service. Swapping them out sucks.
My grandpa would tow a giant party barge boat with his ~2000 jeep 4.0L the boat was twice the size as the jeep.
@@ironpanther2420 Yeah one day I was having issues with it not going into overdrive because of a TPS issue. And I was counting gears after I fixed it and I'm like "1... 2... 3... 4... 5...? Nah that ain't right." And I kept counting and yeah my gearbox was a 5 speed. When I bought it I had to change the upstream O² sensor and it was jammed into the transmission housing so after figuring that out, I have to have a non-stock transmission.
And it's geared low. My dad has a 1997 Grand Cherokee and his has the stock 4 speed and I'm in 3rd by the time he gets into 2nd. But his RPMs are lower on the highway. But after towing, mine stays in that 3,000RPM sweet zone way more often so it feels like it's built to pull.
@@ironpanther2420 I have the original trans on my 2000 3/4 ton. When the second owner bought it it had ~120k on it. He built the trans so it had longer gears. 18 years later it has 346k and no problems. So yeah if the trans is rebuilt right they'll last
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I love my 2001 Ram2500 V10 Quad Cab Sport 4x4. I've owned 2 Rams. The first one being a 1998 Ram1500 5.9 Laramie SLT Longbed. There's no comparison on why you should get the 8.0l V10. In the 2 years I've owned mine, I've put 30,000mi on it. Very little upkeep needed. It was a bonus to not only being the second owner of my Ram LA488, but also getting the original window sticker!
Totally agree with what you did here, Wizard. Plenty of haters and a lot of the pre-emissions diesel guys have their superiority complex (not everyone can have or needs a diesel truck, point-blank-period). The V10 Magnum was reliable, powerful, and not bad to work on... and it still has less spark plugs than the 5.7L V8 Hemi and all 3rd gens! Lol.
A friend of mine in outback Western Australia had one of these, but the SRT Viper model and it couldn't quite make it between the towns and the drilling camps he'd often travel to... It needed a couple full Jerry cans in the tray at all times, just to be sure.
It was cools as hell, but totally impractical and needless to say didn't last long as a daily.
My uncle had the exact same one as the Wizard, dually and all; but emerald green and with the Cummins. The reason why people pay and cling so much to those Diesels is they use just 10l per 100km [around 25mpg]. The V10 makes sense for just towing tractors around on your land, but most people with those massive trucks need to travel like road trains.
@@anasevi9456 Yeah they're awesome in the correct application... As my quarry manager taught me as an apprentice, to be useful a machine needs to be: "in the correct location, the correct configuration and the correct application."
A petrol V10 pickup truck is badass, but overkill for ferrying the boss around sites and towing toys on the weekends. It wasn't even as comfortable as my 70 Series GXL LandCruiser and that was an uncomfortable ute at the best of times. The Cruiser wasn't actually that much more economical to be honest, but it worked properly off road and was a much better commercial vehicle. Especially out there.
Thanks for sharing. I sometimes fantasy about building a rig and driving thru /around Australia. But I’d need more range than this hahaha
Tbh if I was him I'd have added a couple oil drums as extra gas tanks mad max style.
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Borrowed a 2500 in 2000 it cost over $60 to fill it up. You borrow somebody vehicle you fill it up before you return it. That's how I was raised.
Always.
9mpg is going to be generous. I do agree with you, though, I rather have a gasser than a diesel, maintenance on the diesel is too expensive and with the fuel prices the way they are it really is a wash on fuel cost. I'm towing with a 8.1L/Allison combo chevy and love it.
Especially with talks of diesel fuel, diesel oil and def shortages. It's nice to have similar towing capacity from an alternative fuel source.
but my 98 ram with a Cummins gets 21mpg so that a pretty big difference I feel like that makes up for the difference plus the fact the a diesel will last longer.
@@1g_dsm_life154 I'm putting less than 5000 miles a year on it. If I were on the hwy every day, I may consider a diesel, but I go to auctions once a week and haul junk home. I like the fact I don't have to worry about an injection pump or expensive injectors or the dowl pin of death or the insane purchase price that old cummins seem to command. It still takes a lot of miles to make up the difference.
I got my 98 2500 2wd long bed 24v for $3500 about 3 years ago, at the time everyone thought I was stupid because all they could see was a old truck with rusted fenders, rockers, and various other dents and etc from use (it was a work truck, and was used to haul a 5th wheel camper from up north down here to FL every year, hence the body rust), but the frame, engine, trans, and interior are all well solid. Even after having to replace a vp44 injection pump for like 1300$, I still feel like it was a great deal for the capabilities of the vehicle, and I daily drive it on top of all of that, 40k miles added since purchase along with many longevity and power adding modifications such as Fass 150 lift pump, tuner, bigger injectors and turbo, etc etc etc
I got a 1995 dodge ram 1500 4x4 with a 5.9 magnum and 82k original miles on it for 1650 bucks six years ago, guess what I drive it weekly usually to the fishing ponds and to haul trailers here and there. My old Dodge truck is awesome I've saved neighbors a few years ago because I was the only person who could get out after 31" of snow. I just moved into a new home and used it to pull a 12' foot trailer. I get crap because it's got horribly faded paint, but hey I paid cash for it six years ago and it still runs like a champ. I honestly think I'll keep it forever I absolutely love that old truck it's extremely reliable and the best part is that it's paid for
Interesting video Car Wizard! The Dodge V-10 is 488 cubic inches, 300hp, and around 450lb/ft of torque. I think in later years of the production the V-10 was bumped up to ~310hp. Seems like you did pretty good for what you are going to use it for.
And the ford 3.5 Ecoboost does 400HP and 500lbft! Insane.
@@austinformedude 😅 That's not the same.
@@austinformedude yes over 20 years later and twin turbo 🤣🤣
@ Brandon Wright. How many throttle bodies and turbos you would go through in 20 years with the EcoBoost (if it lasts that long).. I don’t think I would ever buy a EcoBoost. Too many horror stories of them shutting down on people for bad throttle bodies or the turbos blowing up.
@@pi1797 I think I would rather have a V8 or a diesel as well. I haven't owned one but pumping that much power out of a puny V6 with ridiculously powerful turbochargers has to put a LOT of stress on the engine. I haven't heard of too many people having good luck with a I4 or small V6 turbocharged engine, I know I wouldn't want to tow heavy loads with a 3.5 V6! The 5.9 Cummins is reported to be a decent engine even with the turbocharger, however, as are most of Ford's V8 diesels.
I had a 96 2500 V10 with a 5 speed. Such a fun truck, wish I never sold it!
Having towed with both a Ram v10 and a Cummins of that year l will take the diesel every time. However from an occasional driving towing standpoint, Big V8s make sense and the 8.0 V10 is a decent alternative
@Charlie B you said it bro screw gas!
Its the price difference that makes it a viable option for "part time" use.
I own and daily drive an 04 Silverado with the 8.1L/Alison combo. Terrible gas mileage but will pull a house down the road! I LOVE the ride and she looks nice.
My 2022 f250 with the 6.2 gasser gets 10.5mpg lol. You did good. All the construction crews get the cheapest gas trucks for a reason. Mine has the tool boxes, shovels, chains, 100gal diesel tank, gas cans, plate tamper, generator, etc. It's routinely overloaded, and yes its slow, but im paid by the hour and ill sit in that ice cold AC as long as possible. I used to have a 91 E350 gasser van. 8mpg empty, but it only cost $1000 and it made me a ton of money. And with well over 300k miles, it never let me down once. And that 5.8 351 Windsor didn't lack for power. I'm a firm believer that the best truck is the paid off one if youre a business person. It's best to have an old truck reserved for truck things, and a cheap, efficient, reliable car for daily use. And maybe a third for fun if you so desire.
The Car Wizard used to have a green, 1998 Dodge Ram Regular Cab with the 5.2 L V8 engine a couple years ago. Now, he has another one, but it is the 1996 model with the 8 L V10 engine. Anyway, we still need to do a buy this, not that video for Mitsubishi Motors. Thanks.
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I remember driving a big diesel truck for the first time, my 22' Penske International.. got about 7mpg when I know the v10 gas model at uhaul gets like 3mpg. But holy crap was the diesel slow!! I had it pegged and down a gear every hill and still lost momentum. I feel like the gas would have been more enjoyable to drive across the country.. albeit $1,000 more for fuel.. yikes
I used to drive those diesel box trucks for a living lol
I just painted my 1995 v10 3500 with black raptor paint, I’d totally recommend this Mr Wizard, you could do a great video too. I love how I can scrap and bump my truck now and things just bounce off. Best truck I’ve ever had and I love her more than my AMG GT 😊
I just painted mine with the raptor paint too, also upgraded the front and tail lights to LED for under $200!!! Made a huge improvement to the overall look of the truck, really looks quite clean now.
@@Shannon.Harmon10 Right! The LED upgrades are so affordable and create much better visibility on the road, best money I’ve spent in a long time too! I’m looking at the SRT style front bumper for mine now too.
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Gas pig! I have one of those, but mines a 5.9 Cummins and I get 20mpg instead plus all the torques 👍 Incredible money making machines, no def crap, rock solid, better mpg than the new ones. I keep mine stock cus as soon as you start upping the power on any old diesel to keep up with the new ones you get leaks. I’ve had 0 leaks on mine the past year I owned it. Cold AC everything works
I have pretty much that same truck, but in a different color. My dad bought it used in the fall of 97 to pull his RV and I bought it from him in 05 and I use it to pull my RV. It is not my daily driver and that's another fine reason to have the V10 instead of the diesel. As far as I know, it's more likely a diesel will suffer from sitting for long stretches than a gas engine will. So far, after sitting way more than driving, my V10 has given me zero problems.
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You got a great deal. Diesel trucks are now too expensive to own.
Funny...in europe we use dieselengines for hauling stuff.
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@@01Bouwhuis it's still the same in the US, but the emissions equipment on the larger engines has really dropped fuel efficiency... It's getting to the point where burning more gas is cheaper. And if you have emissions system problems you hit the unlucky lottery and need to dump thousands.
@@volvo09 i get that point, as we use vans and light trucks for hauling stuff in stead of pick up trucks.
These V-10 engines were very reliable and cheap to fix only Dodge transmissions are not known for reliability
That's why you find one with the manual. Way more reliable.
They are simple to repair. They are almost identical to the 727. Very easy to repair. Change the cheap bands with HD kevlar bands and a shift and your good to go. Also a nice cooler will go along ways. I had a a 1500 with the 46re with 470k on it with the original trans that's was never removed and it still going to this day 6 years later and still never been out.
I'm not sure if this beats my 8-14 mpg I get in my Srt10 Ram but I know my 99 Dakota Rt 5.9 had a steady 6-10 mpg. You got the twister chaser though which is cool enough for me!
This truck probably gets 8 mpg just cruising
I'm up in Canada and run a 1999 Ram 2500 V10 2wd and love it. Same as you it's not a everyday driver but it pulls like a freight train and it's been great. it has 160,000km (100,000 miles) and i have no plans of replacing it,. I paid $4000.00 for it 6 years ago.
Mr. Wizard, if I wouldn't be a Christrian, I would covet your purchase of the V10 1 Ton. But I admire you too much, and you are so darn smart, I just ask God to bless you. I've been looking High and Low for a Truck just like that here in the Arctic of Alberta Canada. They didn't make many
(for Canada anyway) and Back in '97 , a 1Ton Dually "HERE" 2 whell Drive is absolutly useless and actually Scary to drive. The high floatation of the dual wheels only needs a little moisture on the road and it goes nowhere. So we only buy 4x4s,or quit driving/hauling for the winter. Another great deal for the Wizard.
My cousin has an 01 Ram 2500 8 Liter 5 speed 4x4 affectately known as the Beast. Yeah it sucks for mpg, but it pulls "anything" he needs it to, even a 40 ft 5th wheel trailer.
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How much did it really cost you after replacing the tires, power steering box, AC compressor and front shocks, plus the rest of what needed to be done? Not that this makes up the difference if you bought a diesel, but it would be more accurate getting this truck to the point of being reliable.
Maybe take another look at those rear leafs, too. Or is it “leaves”?
Car Wizard's labor is free if he's working on his own truck and he gets all his parts at trade rates so I'm sure it didn't cost him a bundle.
i'd wager 1k+ not including his labor
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@@LN997-i8x that may be the case but the time he spent was his and any costs assumed in this project will pay for itself in the long run.
I've benn driving Volvo tractors (D13 engines) with the particle trap/def systems for about five years now and getting a "filter full", "regen required" and "derate in x number of miles" warnings were too common. It was always a sensor. Always. Fortunatly I got a brand new VNR tractor last year and haven't had any problems like that with it. Yet.
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I go through a similar story when people ask me "why did you buy a GMC 2500HD with the 8.1L gas motor?". They're simple to maintain, reliable, less expensive to acquire compared to a diesel. I chose to pay for the inefficiency of the gas motor over time. I have no regrets.
The V10's weak spots are crank sensor (good luck finding one) , the roller lifter rollers start galling but are easily fixed using 3.8L Gm lifter rollers and if its sludged up you'll need to replace the Rocker arms and the fulcrums. You can buy rockers but not the fulcrums and no, the rockers and parts from the 360/318 are not the same. I drive one everyday. The timing chain is a little noisy but never have had an issue. The WEAKEST PART OF ALL.....TORQUEFLIGHT POWER WEDGE WILL FALL OUT. Tighten the trans band before this happens, its the bolt on the side of the trans case. Check to see if the torque converter is blueing on the flexplate side. Overdrive is failing if so. Torqueflight trans are outdated trash.
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Not a bad deal. With the price of diesel fuel ten MPG isn't that bad on a gas powered truck.
Damn 7k for a v10 2wd? Makes me feel better about spending a ton of money restoring my 97 3500 4x4 diesel lol.
How much did you spend to restore it
I thought 7k was a little high. I bought a 2005 gmc 2500hd 4x4 with a diesel for $5800 less than a year ago. Also, I average 17 mpg….
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@@carlsegerstrom3989 yours is the lly? It cracks me up how much cheaper the lb7 and lly are than the rest.
7K is WAY too high for a 2nd gen v10 with closer to 200K miles. ESPECIALLY a 2wd in that condition cosmetically. I've heard Bring a Trailer is being run and prices driven up by shady people.
Got a 2500 4x4 one of these back a few years ago for just over $2k. By far the best truck I have ever owned. Even with a loaded 24' equipment trailer It does not care, just a mountain of torque. Started looking for one after seeing Winston over on Worthlesswhips manage to get a hi mileage one of these past CA emissions and then drive it cross country when they moved to the east coast.
The block is basically an LA 360 with 2 extra cylinders and the A618 47RH behind is a descendant of the A727 that dates back to the early 60's out to an NP241 and 4:10 DANA 70 rear with an LSD and a DANA 60 on the front. Considering the prehistoric drivetrain its surprising it even pulls the mileage it does. What really makes this engine is the update to Distributor less ignition and direct port fuel injection paired with the mammoth intake runners. Unloaded I really have to watch my speed as I have found myself doing 75mph + with the tack only around 1700 RPM.
Worst thing I can say about these aside from the 15mpg unloaded / 12-8 loaded is the dashes are made of the most awful brittle plastic ever (my dash cluster currently has a nice 6" skylight), and the Chrysler ("factory" dealer installed) alarm systems are laughably bad. I assumed the one in mine was some aftermarket toy from the AutoZone accessories isle due to the abundance of poorly placed zip ties and spice connectors until I found the part number on the main module cross referenced to the Factory Chrysler alarm system.
Overall considering that the manual explicit says to only run 87 and the currently $2/gal price premium on diesel where I live its ends up about 4% less expensive over a couple hundred mile trip to run the same distance with this as a similar 5.9 would run, however every 5.9 I could find at the time was someone asking $10-20k for a truck with frame rot or some other catastrophic issue.
I absolutely agree. Plus i would add that if we look at the reliability nothing can beat an old petrol powered car/truck. Old diesels have a problem with age and high mileage, and are more complex then a simple petrol engine, so on a petrol the repairs will not only will be a lot simpler, but also cheaper. Also, since gas prices change so absurdly and artificially it makes no sense anymore to count on savings due to fuel type and consumption. The robustness of the tech, reliability, and buying price is everything, all the other things cant really make a positive difference. The 90s is the best time period from where to buy a vehicle. Most of them are relatively modern, but still simple enough for cheap maintenance
Points to GIANT HOLE IN DASH "there's a very open area for air to come out" - best used car saleswoman right there
Even though that's where the factory cup holders once were.
Initially designed to hold 7/11 big gulps. Later models moved the cup holder tray out of the direct sun from the windshield.
@@schooltechnology 94-97 cup holders were pretty much useless. The idea was great. Place the cup holders at eye level to keep from taking your eyes off the road. It practice though, any bump or turn usually resulted in a spilled drink. The 98-01 design was an improvement, but overtime the plastic hinges don't hold up well.
As with most things, trial & error.
Dodge should've integrated the cup holders with the center console, like the newer trucks.
@@AngryCatMan1982 Believe me, I KNOW. I owned a 94 1500. I got used to making turns with my left hand only.
The other was stabilizing my drink.
Things got better when the bottom flap broke out of the driver's side cupholder. Smaller cups would fall through but some of the larger cups with small bottoms sat low enough that after a few sips normal turns wouldn't overturn them.
@@schooltechnology Yep! I've had a few tipped drinks as well. About 10 years ago I bought cup holders that attach to the center console. The dash cup holders have been decorative ever since.
Awesome video and advice. Well bought! Thank you for sharing your time and knowledge. It's videos like yours that help people make rational decisions. Last but not least, that is a beautiful truck.
Very solid truck, but I’d guess that 9 mpg loaded is ambitious 🤣
My 01 3500 v10 dually 4wd gets 10mpg loaded or not.
I bought a '99 2500 V10 with only 110k miles and loaded to the gills (new AT tires/winch/cattle guards/5th wheel) for only $6000 because it had an "engine noise". The engine noise was just an old belt 🤣. Outside of a tune up, new water pump and a crankshaft position sensor, this truck has worked perfectly! It's used for the deer lease (light off-roading/the occasional hauling) and it suits my needs perfectly!
I own 2. F350 7.3 diesels. Both 2002 one is a dually xtra cab. The other is crew cab and I have owned it since new. It has original drivetrain and has run good both my kids drove it I towed a 5th wheel & boat . Live in north east so replacement body panels have been done. Other is a plow truck for now till I get body work done and brakes done. They run and with a small chip you wake up the power .. I’ll keep them they are reliable 👍
My mind still thinks that's too expensive. To my mind that truck with that mileage and condition ought to be closer to $3,500 but the truck market has been off its rocker for a couple decades now. If you ever want to fix that dash though LMC makes nice replacements. I did my 2003 Ram 1500 for under $500 shipped to my door.
As long as it runs and doesn't have a major failure 7k ok. If your just going to haul on your lot heavy loads that's not a problem. I see with what you mean by 3500 for minor issues like paint dash . But the main power train is really what matters
That's normal world price.
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The thing they are saying is cars don't have real market value , it's worth what you will pay for it. It's not like a house we're it has a market value. I'm not sure how they calculate car value what formula are they using to say this car is priced at 4k used
I have the same opinion. In my area you can get these big ol gas hogs for cheap.
@@Ka_Gg here in Alabama any truck is overpriced 99% of the time. People ask $6k for 5.3 half ton Chevrolets with over a quarter million miles. Add about 20% if it's 4x4.
Looks great for a 1997 dually. If you got it in Kansas the underbody looks really great. If your not going to have it professionally painted then I would buy some rattle cans and protect the metal.
Id cammo the truck with a. Combo red white blue yellpw white colors just to be different
or roll it with truck paint 2k..looks smooth
I'd say matte red to make it look good all over and still have a rugged truck look. It might even be worth it to replace the dash.
My 1971 Dodge D100 is dang near analog perfect. $600 truck. I've had it 25 years.
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I have a 1994 Dodge Ram 2500 V10 5 speed 4x4, it had 24,000 miles on it when I got it at the end of September 2003 . It now has 180,000 miles. Replaced radiator, radio, front right axle shaft right front axle seal,bed due to rust ,rear bumper and the battery every 7 years, and the front drag link.
Those air conditioners are top notch. Had mine nearly 30 years since new. AC still ice cold never touched it. Your exterior is a bit nicer than mine but my interior is in nearly perfect condition. I've got the 2500 5 speed 4x4. Thanks for the video
I have you beat Wizard! A 1985 Chevrolet 3500 4WD crewcab dually with the 454 and Automatic transmission. Loaded, Unloaded, Uphill, Downhill, 6-7 MPG. My dad bought it new, I owned it since. It's great for the occasional need, just don't use it as a commuter LOL.
Makes me feel better about spending $1800 on my 1st gen gas dodge w150 with the 360 that needed a ton of work
At this point just buying a rolling shell of a old truck and fully rebuilding it is cheaper than the total ownership cost of a brand new diesel truck.
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With the cost of propane right now I wonder how that would work on the v10. My late grandfathers 68 ford pickup has a propane powered hopped up 428fe was going to go back to gas and sell but might leave the propane in light of prices
If you can fill up a propane pickup locally that isn't a big deal. However, in many places you can't just do that (fortunately my area has two gas stations with a propane pump). Just be damn careful out on the two tracks -- if you rupture a propane line on a hump you will be in for a REALLY bad day -- as in your truck will probably explode, especially if someone in the cab has a cigarette fired up at the time! I have never owned a propane power truck, my nephew had a 1990's Chevy that had been converted to run on either propane or gas but he never put propane in it to even see if that feature worked (it was something he bought for $500 or so to get to and from work). The truck drove fine on gas and he drove it for several years until someone rear ended him at 60m/h and totaled it out (we couldn't even get it on my sister's car hauling trailer to get it to her house to store it until the insurance BS was finished -- he needed it kept for examination because of an injury sustained in the crash).
Love the v10s man. They're beasts. The underdog of the heavy truck world
Consider most diesels don't do much more than 13 mpg towing...also diesel around here costs $1.50 more a gallon so your fuel cost is about equal. With NO smog equipment headaches!! Great buy, wizard!!!
What do you think the V10 is gonna do? That’s 10 mpg empty. You put 8K lbs behind it and it’s gonna get about 3 mpg and no that’s not an exaggeration. The fuel cost is nowhere near equal. My deleted ‘12 gets 21 mpg empty and with 15K lbs gets probably about 9.5. My truck literally gets the same mileage with 15K lbs added to it over an empty V10 truck. That’s nowhere near equal. Plus if you’re using a V10 to haul heavy like you can a Cummins you’re lucky if you make it to 150K miles. How many 1000 mile round trips pulling 5K - 10K lbs is a V10 gonna last through?