Someone else probably explained this already, but the primary difference maker between a polycule and a harem is basically direction. In a triangular situation, a harem is like a V; two points love the one point, and that one point may also love those two points, but those two individual points don't have a thing for each other. A polycule would be an actual triangle. Every point directly connects to every other point. Or, with four people. A harem is one dot in the middle with three dots around it, with connections to each of those dots, but they don't have connections to each other. A polycule, in that case, is a square with an X through it. Every person is connected to every other person.
The only requirement for a polycule is that tree or more people are in a romantic relationship. Polycule is still a polycule if relationships connect only through one person. So the difference between a polycule and a harem lies more in the approach rather than the structure. Polycule is nothing more than a relationship structure, while what is commonly referred to as "harem" is more of a male power fantasy of "all girls around me are into me and are okay with me dating all of them at the same time"
Yeah, this is what the format is for Jello's "Dogs in Love" and "Miles is on Fire/Miles is a Robot" series. I'm pretty sure Jello has gone on record saying that he only does these highlights for games that weren't very good because they ended up making way more improv jokes during those streams, but I think based on what he said at the end of this video that this series was a bit of an exception? There are a few other games they played that probably aren't going to get this highlight treatment because they were actually invested in the games, but the channel andYetNoBananas has made some animatics about some of the moments in those streams that don't have highlight videos. also, if you do do "Dogs in Love", you should definitely do his videos on Making a Sound Type and Ranking the Hottest Pokemon Characters, because those are like isolated highlights from those streams
One thing worth knowing is that most harems in media are not able to be called polycules, since none of the girls have any romantic feelings toward each other. Also, would love to see you watch either the Dogs in Love videos or Jello's Lemonade Review videos.
Yeah, Airier, I wouldn't compare harems to polycules. It's pretty insulting to actual poly individuals. With rare exceptions like this game, media typically does not do a good job portraying poly individuals or relationships.
Harems and polycules are not the same thing. Members of a harem all love one person, but not necessarily each other. In a polycule, all participants love each other equally.
"She's wearing clown shoes" They're not. She's got normal shoes that have metal talons attached to them. And no, a harem is not a polycule. A ploycule is an actual relationship developed between all participating parties. A harem is just a fantasy fulfillment that lacks actual development, where it's all focused around one person because it's mainly catered to single men. What they are asking for is actual effort made where you don't want anyone of the characters to be left out because the game makes you care for them and the relationship.
As someone who watched all of Jello’s playthrough/stream/abridges, yes you should definitely get around to watching Dogs in Love and Dogs in Love 2 because they’re extremely worth it, even if you don’t know much about Pokémon. And if you still want more after that, you should check out his videos for Ace Attorney Investigations and Investigations II called “Miles is on Fire” (First Investigation Game) and “Miles is a Robot” (Investigations II). They’re a little longer than Dogs in Love or Sky Pirate Girlfriends, but they’re separated into different parts by Jello himself, so it should be easier to watch in bursts.
the british cant impersonate texans. as someone who grew up in texas with a british neighbor i can tell you that what happens is the british accent overpowers the texas accent and assimilates it if you spend too much time with her
@@CaedmonOS unfortunately. i went to her house after school when my parents were busy working and for years afterword people would ask if i was british. took so long to escape it
Damn, this stuff is interesting. Ps. My favorite moment in the Live Dub series was the bit during Ixa’Taka Kingdom: “This music Fucks!” “Well it is the island of fertility after all”. Gotta love it.
Skies of Arcadia is still my favorite JRPG. Its the one that got me into steampunk and JRPGs in general. Id hope someday they remake it, but doubt it since its sega and the only thing they can make is Sonic
About all they've done with it is Vyse is in one of the Sonic & All-Star Racing games, and Vyse, Aika, and Fina make cameos as units in Valkyria Chronicles I think they appear in the Valkyria Chronicles anime too iirc
:) Thanks for this. Hoping the Pokémon ones will follow, though the 2nd is far more polished. The Colosseum games are weird enough to be rich pickings.
Play Skies of Arcadia. Doesn't matter if it's privately on your own time or doing it for your audience, just play Skies of Arcadia. Don't just put it in your backlog, put it at the top of your backlog. The game is full of sincere charm and an unbridled sense of adventure. The characters are incredibly expressive and lovable (or hateable in the case of those meant to be detestable), oozing personality. It's like reading that one book that you love even when you're not a big reader otherwise. It possesses the whimsy and freedom of a child's drawing but as if it were painted by a master traditional artist in their prime. And not in the sense of a modern artist putting more effort into being subversive than into making good art, but the kind of artist that makes works that can speak to any type of person, unifying vast expanses instead of burning bridges. It's a truly special game that has aged wonderfully while still being criminally left behind by the gaming market. Talk to whatever friends or acquaintances you can about finding a way you're comfortable with getting to play the game. Play Skies of Arcadia. But, yeah, I'm not joking, it's a fun and neat game.
Hmm, I was sure there was a steam or GoG version, but looks like that was just for Tales. I'll only make the statement that, as I own the GC remaster disk, I could legally play it on Dolphin with no issues. It'll be more fun the less you look up, but the Captain rank is linked to making proper noble pirate decisions and there are some super rare drops.
Skies of Arcadia was originally released on the Dreamcast. The version that Jello and friends played is Skies of Arcadia: Legends, an upgraded Gamecube port. Beyond that I don't know of any other releases. If you've got a Wii laying around you could play Legends that way.
I'm sure you got the idea from all the other comments, but I'm amused by the description that came to mind for me, so I'm gonna say it anyway. 😆 Harem is competitive multiplayer, polycule is cooperative multiplayer.
Yeah, Dogs in Love is this but done for Pokemon Colosseum, and the follow-up video covers the first half of its sequel, Pokemon XD: Gales of Darkness. Sadly they never did a video for the second half, though I'm pretty sure they did play through the game on their streams. They said it'd be coming, but then released this vid instead, so who knows.
The second XD video will arrive eventually probably but Jello usually is working on so many projects at once (these vids, One piece book club on patreon though that's just finished streams, epithet erased content and a bunch more) that it takes a long time for them to be finished. The long waits are frustrating but do allow Jello to put out the high quality vids we see at least
As far as I know, the difference between a harem and a polycule is that a harem is one guy with a bunch of girls who love him but don't also love each other. And a polycule is just three or more people who all mutually love each other, or love different people in different combinations but its not like only one person is the one being loved. Also harems tend to be often treated as only ever a dude with a lot of wives, with it being called a reverse harem if its a girl with many husbands. And there's a bunch of difference between the actual historical concept of harems in other cultures, and the fandom concept started by anime, aaaand the western idea of arabic harems as misinterpreted in a lot of racist fetishizey romance novels of the 1900s. Polycule is just a universal term that can be used for any gender or any amount of people, and has no negative stereotypes or fandom baggage. And throuple is just a funny way to say it, so some people prefer it, but cos its only for groups of three thats why we also have the word polycule, haha
So the relationship in the game is definitely a polycule not a harem and that's why people are so pleasantly surprised about it. It's not uncommon to find a game that has all the female party members love the protag, but it's refreshing to have them also in love with each other and everyone is just fine with being together instead of a cliche cat fight love triangle sorta thing.
I can't hear the guy with the deep voice speak without thinking back to "Ike gets trolled" and "Ike trolls back", which are two animatics of his fire emblem streams you should DEFINITELY watch. Also dogs in love 1&2. Whichever order ya want, there's no rush.
Maga sphere, MAGA is shorthand for Make America Great Again, they had already given this group Deep Southern Accents, so having them reference Donald Trump’s campaign slogan fits in perfectly.
Someone else probably explained this already, but the primary difference maker between a polycule and a harem is basically direction.
In a triangular situation, a harem is like a V; two points love the one point, and that one point may also love those two points, but those two individual points don't have a thing for each other.
A polycule would be an actual triangle. Every point directly connects to every other point.
Or, with four people. A harem is one dot in the middle with three dots around it, with connections to each of those dots, but they don't have connections to each other.
A polycule, in that case, is a square with an X through it. Every person is connected to every other person.
The only requirement for a polycule is that tree or more people are in a romantic relationship. Polycule is still a polycule if relationships connect only through one person. So the difference between a polycule and a harem lies more in the approach rather than the structure. Polycule is nothing more than a relationship structure, while what is commonly referred to as "harem" is more of a male power fantasy of "all girls around me are into me and are okay with me dating all of them at the same time"
So if you wanna understand how polycules are graphed look at your miitopia friendship graph
yes watch dogs in love its great
Both dogs in love.
Part 3 hasn't released yet.
This!
@@peacemaker63604Now it has
Yeah, this is what the format is for Jello's "Dogs in Love" and "Miles is on Fire/Miles is a Robot" series. I'm pretty sure Jello has gone on record saying that he only does these highlights for games that weren't very good because they ended up making way more improv jokes during those streams, but I think based on what he said at the end of this video that this series was a bit of an exception? There are a few other games they played that probably aren't going to get this highlight treatment because they were actually invested in the games, but the channel andYetNoBananas has made some animatics about some of the moments in those streams that don't have highlight videos.
also, if you do do "Dogs in Love", you should definitely do his videos on Making a Sound Type and Ranking the Hottest Pokemon Characters, because those are like isolated highlights from those streams
Dogs in love is great
Hottest characters was part of the Colosseum streams, but I thought Sound Type was it's own stream?
If i remember correctly, one of the criteria for is he makes it into a video is if their commentary add a substantial amount to the game.
Oh shoot, epic me reference!
One thing worth knowing is that most harems in media are not able to be called polycules, since none of the girls have any romantic feelings toward each other.
Also, would love to see you watch either the Dogs in Love videos or Jello's Lemonade Review videos.
Harams also tend to be less about having a well developed romantic story between multiple people and more giving a MC a bunch of trophies to flant.
Yeah, Airier, I wouldn't compare harems to polycules. It's pretty insulting to actual poly individuals. With rare exceptions like this game, media typically does not do a good job portraying poly individuals or relationships.
@@willw6504 and to be honest i think this game did it by accident
Harems and polycules are not the same thing. Members of a harem all love one person, but not necessarily each other. In a polycule, all participants love each other equally.
"She's wearing clown shoes" They're not. She's got normal shoes that have metal talons attached to them.
And no, a harem is not a polycule. A ploycule is an actual relationship developed between all participating parties. A harem is just a fantasy fulfillment that lacks actual development, where it's all focused around one person because it's mainly catered to single men. What they are asking for is actual effort made where you don't want anyone of the characters to be left out because the game makes you care for them and the relationship.
As someone who watched all of Jello’s playthrough/stream/abridges, yes you should definitely get around to watching Dogs in Love and Dogs in Love 2 because they’re extremely worth it, even if you don’t know much about Pokémon.
And if you still want more after that, you should check out his videos for Ace Attorney Investigations and Investigations II called “Miles is on Fire” (First Investigation Game) and “Miles is a Robot” (Investigations II). They’re a little longer than Dogs in Love or Sky Pirate Girlfriends, but they’re separated into different parts by Jello himself, so it should be easier to watch in bursts.
"Dogs in love" and the "Miles is a robot" series are great.
the british cant impersonate texans. as someone who grew up in texas with a british neighbor i can tell you that what happens is the british accent overpowers the texas accent and assimilates it if you spend too much time with her
So what you're saying is British accents are all consuming.
@@CaedmonOS unfortunately. i went to her house after school when my parents were busy working and for years afterword people would ask if i was british. took so long to escape it
Which though, there's like 40 main British accents and a lot of very local variations.
@@TheArcSet shut up
@@CaedmonOS It'll start out ironic, but once you start it's really hard to stop :)
TBF, polycules tend to be more open communication and everyone being with everyone rather than just all being for one
bUT W hO ArE THe mEn FrOM tHE EaST?!?!?
*yes* , this is exactly what dogs in love is like
Always remember
We are thousands of feet in the air
Damn, this stuff is interesting.
Ps. My favorite moment in the Live Dub series was the bit during Ixa’Taka Kingdom:
“This music Fucks!”
“Well it is the island of fertility after all”.
Gotta love it.
I just realised this game is over 20 years old. I feel really old now!
Skies of Arcadia is still my favorite JRPG. Its the one that got me into steampunk and JRPGs in general. Id hope someday they remake it, but doubt it since its sega and the only thing they can make is Sonic
About all they've done with it is Vyse is in one of the Sonic & All-Star Racing games, and Vyse, Aika, and Fina make cameos as units in Valkyria Chronicles
I think they appear in the Valkyria Chronicles anime too iirc
ah yes Enriques awakening two, electric boogaloo
A Harem isn't a polycule.
Polycule is everyone dating each other.
A harem is polyamourous, and is just one person dating a bunch of people.
A harem is like the opposite of a polycule, in most cases.
I think?
It would be an improvement for most.
Play this game now! A thousand times, yes! And remember... we are THOUSANDS of feet in the air!
:) Thanks for this.
Hoping the Pokémon ones will follow, though the 2nd is far more polished.
The Colosseum games are weird enough to be rich pickings.
dont forget miles is one fire/miles is a robot
Play Skies of Arcadia. Doesn't matter if it's privately on your own time or doing it for your audience, just play Skies of Arcadia. Don't just put it in your backlog, put it at the top of your backlog. The game is full of sincere charm and an unbridled sense of adventure. The characters are incredibly expressive and lovable (or hateable in the case of those meant to be detestable), oozing personality. It's like reading that one book that you love even when you're not a big reader otherwise. It possesses the whimsy and freedom of a child's drawing but as if it were painted by a master traditional artist in their prime. And not in the sense of a modern artist putting more effort into being subversive than into making good art, but the kind of artist that makes works that can speak to any type of person, unifying vast expanses instead of burning bridges. It's a truly special game that has aged wonderfully while still being criminally left behind by the gaming market. Talk to whatever friends or acquaintances you can about finding a way you're comfortable with getting to play the game. Play Skies of Arcadia.
But, yeah, I'm not joking, it's a fun and neat game.
baby cishet boy learns what a polycule is 😭
Hmm, I was sure there was a steam or GoG version, but looks like that was just for Tales.
I'll only make the statement that, as I own the GC remaster disk, I could legally play it on Dolphin with no issues.
It'll be more fun the less you look up, but the Captain rank is linked to making proper noble pirate decisions and there are some super rare drops.
Skies of Arcadia was originally released on the Dreamcast. The version that Jello and friends played is Skies of Arcadia: Legends, an upgraded Gamecube port. Beyond that I don't know of any other releases. If you've got a Wii laying around you could play Legends that way.
While his abridged version of their playthrough Is absolutely hilarious...you're missing a lot of the jokes unless you watched the whole VOD.
I recommend the dogs in love series as well.
Also Internet Historian like the Cost of Concordia.
Dogs in love is fantastic and you should definitely check it out
I'm sure you got the idea from all the other comments, but I'm amused by the description that came to mind for me, so I'm gonna say it anyway. 😆
Harem is competitive multiplayer, polycule is cooperative multiplayer.
Yeah, Dogs in Love is this but done for Pokemon Colosseum, and the follow-up video covers the first half of its sequel, Pokemon XD: Gales of Darkness. Sadly they never did a video for the second half, though I'm pretty sure they did play through the game on their streams. They said it'd be coming, but then released this vid instead, so who knows.
The second XD video will arrive eventually probably but Jello usually is working on so many projects at once (these vids, One piece book club on patreon though that's just finished streams, epithet erased content and a bunch more) that it takes a long time for them to be finished. The long waits are frustrating but do allow Jello to put out the high quality vids we see at least
As far as I know, the difference between a harem and a polycule is that a harem is one guy with a bunch of girls who love him but don't also love each other. And a polycule is just three or more people who all mutually love each other, or love different people in different combinations but its not like only one person is the one being loved.
Also harems tend to be often treated as only ever a dude with a lot of wives, with it being called a reverse harem if its a girl with many husbands. And there's a bunch of difference between the actual historical concept of harems in other cultures, and the fandom concept started by anime, aaaand the western idea of arabic harems as misinterpreted in a lot of racist fetishizey romance novels of the 1900s.
Polycule is just a universal term that can be used for any gender or any amount of people, and has no negative stereotypes or fandom baggage.
And throuple is just a funny way to say it, so some people prefer it, but cos its only for groups of three thats why we also have the word polycule, haha
So the relationship in the game is definitely a polycule not a harem and that's why people are so pleasantly surprised about it. It's not uncommon to find a game that has all the female party members love the protag, but it's refreshing to have them also in love with each other and everyone is just fine with being together instead of a cliche cat fight love triangle sorta thing.
I can't hear the guy with the deep voice speak without thinking back to "Ike gets trolled" and "Ike trolls back", which are two animatics of his fire emblem streams you should DEFINITELY watch.
Also dogs in love 1&2.
Whichever order ya want, there's no rush.
It was first on the Sega Dreamcast then ported to GameCube with the director's cut, but maybe it's on Steam but probably on emulator.
its one gamecube and dreamcast, and its uber expensive
Yep. Both versions run for a fair bit. Unfortunately the game didn't sell too well so it's a fairly rare game.
Emulator is also an option if you don't want to shell out $100+ for a used copy
@@RaLiChuRemembering when the Game shops were full of 3.00 GC boxes, so many duplicates too.
World is mine is a vocaloid/hatsune miku song
Do dogs in love it really good
Harem =/= Polycule, in any definition.
i disagree harems are not polycules cause the members fight over one character.
polycules have the characters love the other members of the polycules.
27:40 worked for one piece for how many episodes. so why not for this game too^^
mfg
Olli
I will also say watch Dogs in love
Please do dogs in love 1 and 2
8:28 giga was in first part ,cheek out snap cube they dub video game cutscenes without seeing them first the sonic lot very funny
Oh, that sounds fun.
I know Dawn used to do that in his let's plays, so as to not spoil them for blind views, those were a lot of fun.
Ight chief
Underverse next
I don't understand the maga sphere joke. Can someone explain it?
Maga sphere, MAGA is shorthand for Make America Great Again, they had already given this group Deep Southern Accents, so having them reference Donald Trump’s campaign slogan fits in perfectly.
@@jamesfirecat6652 OOOOOHHHHHH! That makes so much sense. Thank you.
Go watch Dogs In Love!
Please watch dogs in love, PLEASE!
Emulators exist
The game is skies of arcadiq right?
Wasnt it a dreamcast game?
mfg
Olli
seeing this makes me for some reason play grandia2 again such q good old game...
mfg
Olli
I never beat that game. I had the old PS1 copy, and it's still in my room, but my system wasn't backwards compatible after the PS2 broke. 😅
@Airier whoops thought you meant skies but for Grandia 2 it's a good game you should finish it, sorry lol
Yep, but I think this was the expanded GC remastered version.
I'm not sure if the Moonfish were in the original.
@@TheArcSet they were the only change was the assassin bounty hunter girl and her story. I don't think there was anything else added sadly.
Please react to their pokemon and ace attorney gameplay series
Watch underverse
In this game, the Gigas are ancient kaiju superweapons that survived a lost progenitor civilization.
Always remember
We are thousands of feet in the air