LAPPED RUNNER REFUSES TO MOVE ASIDE! - Banned Running Technique!
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- 1992 Barcelona Olympics 10,000 m final. With just 1,200 m to go (3 laps left), two athletes, Kenya’s Richard Chelimo and Moroccan Khalid Skah were far clear of the field and battling for the gold medal.
Upon lapping another Moroccan athlete, Hammou Boutayeb. Instead of moving aside and letting them pass he continued to pace with the leaders and twice pass them. The crowd and the officials initially interpreted it as unsportsmanlike and one Swedish judge even attempted to block Boutayeb while he was still running.
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Here is the full video of the race - including the award ceremony. The Commentators have some interesting insight.
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To be lapped and have that much in the tank to stay with two runners running so fast they broke away from everyone else, I don’t buy there was not collusion. That looked totally planned
And this could not have any effect on the other runner.
Or at least somewhat planned.
@@JonO387Completely wrong
@@JonO387yes It could have. I am a runner. You don't know what you are saying
Yes looks like it was planned
I remember watching that live and it was clear that the Moroccans were working together to defeat the Kenyan, absolutely clear. Even the commentators were questioning it live on TV.
They're running, it's impossible to have any effect on anyone else without touching them.
@@JonO387if I'm infront of you and slower you have to either slow down or go around.
In a sport that's all about pacing and rhythm, interfering with that even a little can be race ending.
@@JonO387 If you d run you would know. This made a huge difference .
@@JonO387 Well that's not true.
@@JonO387🤡
You can tell from the comments exactly who has been a competitive runner and who hasn't! Those who have been in there know exactly how well the tactics of the Moroccan runners impacted the performance of the Kenyan.
Track me: Yeah. That was clearly interference. At the very least, it was demoralizing and made his opponent waste energy.
Real time strategy game me: Body blocking villagers with my scout is a legit strategy.
I have been a competitive runner. I dare you to tell me I haven't.
So by being a competitive runner you know for sure, that the Moroccan runners were in on it together and this was all a planned strategy?
@@Fandrir probably not sure but thinks it is the case. In any event of top level sports minor things matter a lot since there isn't much to improve
I don’t think there was collusion on the part of the moroccan who won, but the other runner DEFINITELY interfered with the Kenyan. Too much energy was burned up, and couldn’t focus on the race against the Moroccan who won.
It is pretty clear he was making sure the pace was slightly slowed to help his teammate stay tight as save energy. That being said it is kinda impressive he had enough in the take to re-pass them twice though.
He had a full lap (or close to it) of saved energy over both, I think that's enough for a couple spurts.
How is it pretty clear “to help his teammate”?
@@StefanVeenstra Stay clear of the leaders, is all you need to do. Period.
It definitely impacted the Kenyan because he cut him off twice and messed up his momentum. If you’ve never ran track before you absolutely would not understand. The moroccan gained an advantage by his teammate cutting the Kenyan off. That’s hard to recover from. It takes a lot out of you.
"If you’ve never ran track before you absolutely would not understand."
I guess you've never driven on a freeway. People understand being cutoff just fine w/o your grandstanding.
@@InsanitysApex there is a difference between an engine pulling you and you pulling your body literally on muscle protein that there is practically no fat and no stored energy remaining after 10 km.
@@ndahiya3730 Can your fats and proteins tell when your body is being cutoff in a race? You're reducing an argument of human psychology to absurd, molecular levels (that you can never be truly aware of) to fabricate a false win. A person being cutoff is justifiably infuriating no matter the context.
"He cut off my spice frigate in his tiefighter...... Yeah, but you wouldn't understand unless you've driven with your warp drive online...." It's nonsense posing as moral grandstanding, which is why I called it out the first time.
Absolutely correct. When leading, stability is key to maitain rithm and concentration. The fact that it was a lapped runner and not someone in the leading pack is what would have messed up Chelimo's focus, as he would have expected the lapped runner to fall behind. Seeing him at the front twice must have made him consider that he was being messed with.
@@InsanitysApex It is not grandstanding. It is a correct statement, just as me not understanding the effect of a knockout in boxing.
I get it, but from the lapped person's perspective, the rule is kind of saying, 'once it gets to this point, you're not allowed to run faster' which feels very... strange... for a race.
Ya your kinda right! I guess the fact here is that he was speeding up and slowing down and made the move multiple times. But your right, the rules clearly favor the leaders
No he was cheating trying to distract or corrupt the sport. He know what he was doing
I was watching an indoor 5000m where a an athlete lapped another athlete but she managed to hold on for a few laps and ended up passing her and finishing 20 or so seconds behind her.
I don't agree, it just says you can't assist or impede. You can run faster, just do it in a way that doesn't mess with the people properly ahead of you.
Yea, it means you suck. Get out of the way and go try something else
I'm pretty sure all that jockeying by the lapped Moroccan did a lot to take Chelimo off his pace. And while Skah could be telling the truth about no collusion, he didn't seem to be doing anything to stop it. I say it was a bad call and the Moroccans should have gotten a DQ.
How was Shak was supposed to do anything about it other than do what he did which was prove he could outkick Chelimo.
He could have just taken one step to the right.
As a former distance runner this is very upsetting to get distracted as you know as a distance athlete you want to set yourself up for a steady pace and if anything is left in the tank you sprint the last lap.
Seems simple, if you've been lapped, don't get in the leaders' way. That avoids any appearance of foul play.
If the leader is so fast why doesn’t he just run away
@@iFkNxLegend The leader was already a lap ahead of the guy. In a top-level race you will never have someone twice as fast as the other. The slower people are weeded out in the lower levels.
@@iFkNxLegendbecause he’s already a whole lap ahead … how much faster you want him to go? Lol
The trouble is to prove collusion on the athlete that benefited from it.
@@iFkNxLegend
Did you think before posting that stupid ass reply?!
makes sense, you could never legally help out a teammate if you're lapped in a cycling race where tactics abound. Interesting history! Thx!
Yep good point! And sure thing! I’m making a whole series on banned techniques in track and field. I have a few videos out already and more to come!
In cycling time trials you can pass the cyclist ahead of you but must not keep pace with them. I don't see any problem with unlapping yourself in a race (athletics or cycling) as long as you don't keep pace with the person who has lapped you.
@@normanstevens4924 Exactly. No one blames anyone for trying to get back in the race, but if your intentions aren't that, screw off.
In cycling criterium races you must drop out if lapped by the peloton
@@MikeBarbarossa Well, makes sense as the track is short.
The first time I won a race, as I got to the line, someone sprinted past me and jumped in the air screaming “YES!”. I remember having the sickest feeling because I thought I was winning by a considerable distance. When he kept running, I was so happy. I didn’t realize I had almost lapped him twice
I was there at the race in 1992...That summer, I backpacked through Europe with a buddy of mine, and I detoured through Barcelona after we got in a fight and split up...I was right on the rail that night on the backstretch. I had wormed my way down...Security was lax and a lot of the crowd had already gone home...the rest moved up into the lower seats for a better view of the race...It was the last event of that evening's schedule...the race was riveting, though...Being so close on the rail, I could see the looks on every runner's face, every lap...And with each passing lap you could see the looks of desperation as runners were dropped from the lead pack...Finally, it was just Chelimo and Skah duking it out...The race was building to an incredible finish...And then Boutayeb happened...At first, I didn't understand what was happening...why the crowd was booing...but then I figured it out...and joined in...And at this point everyone was cheering for Chelimo...Disgusted by what seemed to be such a blatant attempt at what was - at the very least - dirty tactics...I boo'd along with everyone else at the final outcome...and I remember leaving the stadium that night so angry....I even fantasized that I had been so close to the action that I could have practically jumped onto the track and tackled Boutayeb myself...and maybe have been something of a hero...Looking back, though, I'm glad I didn't do anything crazy like that...I would have probably ended up in jail or accidentally interfered with the two lead runners...And having witnessed the whole race myself, I didn't think that Boutayeb had really done anything that really helped Skah at all...and Skah had brilliantly out sprinted Chelimo to the finish line...It was unfortunate Boutayeb's actions marred what had been a spectacular race...and I feel bad Skah was boo'd for something he may have had nothing do do with...Still...It was a truly memorable night.
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I love hearing first-hand accounts, thanks for sharing! 👏😃
@@Rayer24 I feel like it's more conversational...Like the way one actually talks. I do it for more informal types of communication.
Even in the video you can clearly see how Chelimo has to slow down every time when Boutayeb set in front of him to not collide with the then again getting slower runner.
You can also see how Skah every time this happens get more and more hold on Chelimo and closes up.
Such behaviour isn't only anoying it brings the leading runner out of his own pace. This reoccuring changes in speed and rythm are debilitating.
@@spinnazz It's a great insight from a spectators point of view on that famous night. 1992 was a special year for me....Leeds United were the last champions of England!!!
That guy reminds me of a lot of drivers on the road. They want to drive slow but they don’t want anybody to pass them. So when you change lanes to pass they speed up. I never get that mindset. If someone was pressuring behind me I’d gladly move out of their way.
Or you arrive at an intersection, you have the right of way, but the car on the left still goes ahead so you have to break, then the car isn't speeding up and you wonder why couldn't you wait until I passed and then go?
I really hate these kind of drivers, it's like they can't made up their mind or something
Well they're on the same team so psychologically as the Kenyan runner it might mess with you throw your pace off or something if you think they're in on it together.
lmao u know that tactics are still used to this day? if that throws him off then he is too fragile to be there in the first place, these elite runners are trained to deal with these kind of situations
@Multech Pro Yeah you're right i've never seen an elite athlete crack under pressure.
@Duane Harper
You need to consider your use of the word “team”.
10,000m is not a team sport. It is an individual event.
If you are saying they are from the same contingent, then so are a shot-putter and a swimmer.
@Jeremy Ashford then why did the judges initially disqualify the winner. Same team
How's that the winner's fault? He's not responsible for his opponents' psyche.
That's what happen when you run in circles! To fix this problem the rule should be any "lapped runner" should be removed from the race immediately! 😎
They can come back in a 10k. They just have to step aside
This rule makes sense. Because the race is run in a loop and not a straight path, any runners who is at least 1 lap or loop behind may not run in front of the leader of the race, blocking the leader’s path. This lapped or losing runner must always stay behind the leader.
In the Tokyo 1964 Olympics ,In the final event 10,000 meters, The favorite Ron clark passed U.S.A Billy Mills but by pushing him aside without going around , Then Kavbundi tunisha also passed through without going around , So Billy Mills of U.S.A fell behind third but still 150 meters to finish line, Suddenly Billy Mills from way behind started speeding up like flying passing by the two leaders and gave a surprise to get first place to take the gold ,, Im still enjoying that moment in History .
He didn't push him
@@patricksevers8012 Yes he did, very clear in the video, I"ve seen so many marathons and many are disqualified for been unsportsmanlike, .
There is a big difference between leading runners battling it out and pushing around and a lapped runner stepping in to help a countryman. I got into shoving matches many times, and Steve Ovett and John Walker were famous for roughing up competitors, but it was always with those in the same lap and pack.
Yes, this here is more the type of win to be desired (that all games end cleanly):
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Incredible Moment As Underdog Billy Mills Wins 10,000m Gold - Tokyo 1964 Olympics
Olympics
Billy Mills did steroids.
It appeared he distracted the top 2 runners in favor of 2nd runner of same country
Dude he was cutting off Richard's momentum each time
So move. Easy.
What momentul ??? Ifnhe had momentum, he would have overtaken Boutayeb too.
Pfff so much BS. Skah was favourite by far, had the world's best final kick and won...pure and simple !
A race is a race. Everybody should be free to run as they wish.
The higher the level of competition, the more mental it becomes. At the elite levels, the mental game is tremendous, and I can see how this could turn in to psychological “combat”. This is a tough call for sure.
It is not mental at all, it is a physical strain. Disrupting the pace ,by physically blocking, tiers the runner out for the last sprint.
LOVED IT! cant wait to see a 50 min video about this or about Skah. thank you brother :D
Think this also shows that they need better infrastructure in place (which I don’t think exists even today) to be able to pull a runner mid race that doesn’t involve an official almost taking them out
like snipers
Like a flipper as in Wipeout?
What kind of infrastructure? A trap door?
if they ban collusion between runners lapped or not then every race that had a pacemaker runner should be null and void. any suspicious behaviour during a race should lead to DQ though like intentionally being lapped and then interfering with the race leaders, but the runner getting unintentional assistance should never be penalized. You should have to be able to prove collusion beyond any doubt to penalize a leading runner. Boutayeb shouldve been removed from the race immediately after staying with the leading pack. Its like a Formula one car being lapped and then trying to overtake the leader while getting a tow down the straight, its very unsportsmanlike
He was touched and warned by an Official.
Good comparison to formula 1! That’s a good analogue.
Trying to keep up with the leaders,the last surge was then he wasn't going to keep up.
just make a 10,000 m track, problem solved :D
@smith😂😂😂smart
Can someone please explain what a lap is? I don't understand what happened.
We only see bits and pieces caught on video, but the whole crowd boo-ing says enough for me. They cant all be wrong.
Slowed down his pace. Making the other guy rest. There are two types of runners. Ones with sprint at the end and the other who goes fast throughout the race with no kick at the end. They screwed him over nasty.
If you have been lapped,it means you're no longer side by side if you put it in a perspective of a stright running track.
The fact that Ska did not tell Butayeb to FO and die is, to me, an indicator that he welcomed his presence. That is enough to cast doubt in his integrity. And interestingly enough, Ska did not do much after this, losing to Gebreselasse and Jesu regulalry. I guess he did not have "a little help from his friends"...
you got that right!
If you were an endurance athlete or at least did endurance sports you'd know that at that level of exercion these runners are not capable of conversation or much of anything other than running
@@kalinmir
your morocan aren't you? lmao
@@EstradaDuran-sg6co my morocan? I don't own any
I actually dont care whether Ska did or did not react to his teammate. When your teammate commits a serious foul, you should be penalized, whether you praise of condemn the foul. The only reason Ska kept his medal was because the penalty was never made clear in advance. Now hopefully the penalty is clear and teams will instruct their members to not interfere when lapped, that is to only follow and not re-pass runners who lap them and when in doubt stay out of the way.
Bad sportsmanship. If its not your day then don't spoil it for others. Would have made me angry and possibly push to be rid of the guy ruining my kick. Crowd shouldn't have booed the other runner, though.
The Kenyans used to do this all the time in the past. They used to have multiple athletes in races boxing in their rivals.
Colluded 💯
The Kenyans for years used team tactics against opponents. Hard to say where gamesmanship ends and cheating begins. The lapped runner could be disqualified the moment he’s passed.
2:47 you are right even in this race the odd hand pulling is there.
You know you are lying.
We know you are lying,
you typed a lie.
Kenyan use team tactics like using a pacer or running in a pack but so does everyone even triathletes and cyclists. You are just hating
What i don't get, they are all competing for the number 1 spot. If they overtake him, he is not allowed to fight to overtake them for number 1 again? Then how is that fair tho? If i am running against someone and they overtake me, if i still have it in me after all that running, i will give it my best to overtake him and go for gold no? Doesn't that make sense ?
To be fair. Most runners disagree. If you cannot get around someone then you did not lap them. I would never be so arrogant as to say I lapped someone while not being able to pass them.
Wait until you see what happens in a high school race.
This was 100% deliberate.
I would have yelled at that fool blocking and messing up the lead runners. That was just awful!
I was running a senior games and the meet director made the women run with the men in the 5000 meters. I was by far the fastest woman and had lapped every woman by lap 15 and was starting to lap men. a man in his 70s didn't want to let me lap him and purposefully kept moving in front of me into the 2nd lane to stop me. At first it was funny, then it was just dangerous. The officials laughed, I mean a man didn't want to be lapped by a girl, but he should have been stopped after doing this more than once. Yeah I lapped him pissed me off.
Disgusting tactics and not only from this footage but if you look at all the coverage it is VERY clear that this affected the race.
its pretty obvious that the teammate saw what was happening and decided to do what he can to disrupt the pace of the Kenyan Racer.
It might not have been collaboration, but assistance was provided and he took it.
The speeding up to lap the racer disrupted the pace, his teammate could have won on his own, but we will never know
As a distance runner, I know the exact number of M&Ms in a king size bag and you don't
If it would have been a photo finish I could see the charge. But he beat him by quite a lot.
wow, that's horrible. unless Boutayeb was a first time runner he knew what he was doing and definitely impacted the race. surprised the committee over turned such decision, this usually only happens when athletes are from powerful countries only.
dude outpaced him at the end... sure they were teammates but it wasn't like he was REALLY STALLING HIM! he just didn't want to be lapped
the link to that video you mention with the uncut footage of the race is no longer a valid link
I think if you get lapped you should proceed to an outside lane or exit.
This was not just against the rules, but against the rules of humanity and respect of others, shame on them for shaming their country's flag...
The thing with something like this is that it is incredibly difficult to prove that Skah was in on any planning. If he was, the man should be in Hollywood, because he was telling the lapped runner to get out of the way and actually got into a fight with him afterwards.
Because this was the Olympics (A worldwide Brand) and what was happening was damaging that Brand, it wouldn't have been unreasonable for the Track Official to gently pull Hammou Boutayeb out of the race.
I can't say for sure that Khalid was in on it, but it clearly disadvantaged Richard immensely
Even if he was not "in on it", good sportmanship and self respect would have triggered him to tell Butayev to piss off, but he did not.
@@franciscotoro9454 don't think that was on his mind or that is a reasonable thing to ask from a runner in that position on such a race. Don't know if they where banding together. My first thought is no he looked to be to confused by it all. But that is filling in the blanks. Anyways we can agree that Boutayeb was in the wrong.
I'm fine with the one guy not wanting to be lapped.
If he's in your way, pass him. If you can't pass a slower runner, then you deserve to lose.
Boutayeb was clearly impeding Chelimo by cutting in front so quickly.
Ummm, they're running, no need to move out of their way, you can just go around them... "About to be lapped" how is that a thing? What if the "about to be lapped" person starts running faster and they never catch up? All of this is so dumb.
The rule should be that if you were lapped at any point in a long distance race that you are only allowed to be in lane 2 if you are within 50 meters from those runners. Only if you are completely clear in front and behind are you allowed back into lane 1. Understandable how you can be lapped in such a long race but being in the vicintiy of the other runners is obstructing their running.
the proper rule should be for lapped runners to just go through the middle of the field and see if they can still make it, if they can then they will be allowed to go home quickly instead of wasting everyone else's time.
The rule you provided at 4:40 only seems to disqualify for assistance in pacing. This still requires a determination of assistance. How do you prove assistance? I think a runner once lapped should be banned from passing the lapping runner back, and teammates of a lapped runner who violates this rule should be relegated behind that runner who the lapped runner passed. All runners should learn the rule and be informed by their team to obey it, and yes, if your teammate breaks the rule, you deserve to be penalized and lose your victory, If you score touchdown while your teammate is committing a foul, you lose your touchdown even if the foul did not assist you to score.
Anybody who thinks this was somehow an “accident” is oh so wrong.
These aren’t kindergarteners on the playground, these are athletes at the highest tier in their sport, at the most important event of their lifetime. They absolutely knew what they were doing. It was collusion and unsportsmanlike.
These things happen in Race cars too. Boxing and similar events have some sort of ghost losers just to add advantage to the main player from their country.
That is why everyone must run separately from each other and compare the time after. But no - Olympic is a show, which must bring money - it is not about fair records. It does not even allow anyone to participate. Also, you can run faster than anyone on the planet but it does not mean you may be allowed to take part in the competition if you want to.
What's to debate...it was clear that there was (scripted or unscripted)a desire and in fact an act to assist. Ray Charles could see that.
It is strange to expect a lapped runner to not run their race in a way that would be legitimate for an unlapped runner.
Running in a circle isn’t part of the definition of a race. The reason it is commonly done is simply for convenience, so the track is easier to regulate and the race is easier to watch. However, this has the unfortunate side effect where you can block runners, not only by running faster than them to get in front, but also just by running slower than them, when in an ideal point to point race, that is physically impossible. Not only should running slower to block someone not be possible, it doesn’t really require skill, nor does it gain the runner an advantage, as a lapped runner can’t win by running the same speed as the first place runner. So all it’s doing is screwing the faster runner. I think it makes sense to ban it.
It's an interesting point 🤔 but I think we CAN expect sportsmanship at this elite level, to step out of the way when you know you have been beaten. As he said, it was an unwritten, unspoken rule in races to not block someone who lapped you.
And look at the trouble he got his fellow Moroccan teammate in?
He should have had the grace and humility to bow out and let the winners run their best time I think.
If you are slow enough to get lapped how are you going to suddenly get fast enough to run a full lap AND a half to catch back up to the other runners?
Smart winning
So in other words once you are lapped just start walking because you can’t pass the people in front of you. I’m surprised that the long distance runners don’t sprint at the beginning to lap as many people as possible as they can never pass you.
He didn't have the context of 'replay.' He figured he crossed the line first, so what does anything else matter? Being booed when you are at the pinnacle of success in your profession is going to hurt, the further removed, ya are, from the high of a win in the Olympics. Kenyans did something sneaky, too. 5k. You start wondering about these dudes.
I just do not see how the Moroccan who won and the runner directly in front of him was impacted differently?
i also have not seen any wrongdoing, the dude was not a pacemaker and his decision to keep running with them, for whatever reason, impacted both behind him, in my opinion, he actually even helped the kenyan with his slipstream.!
The lapped Runner did indeed try to keep up from being lapped but it didn't impede the finishing order when indeed a warning by an official.They both still had over more than a lap left.The Kenyans do that in cross country but it's not allowed on the track.
Considering what an astonishingly huge piece of shit Khalid Skah is, I'm 99% sure this was done on purpose to try and help Skah.
He interrupted the stride of the Kenyan, wasted his energy, and frustrated him, which could have easily cost him the race.
@@brettf2 The kenyan didnt do anything different from all the other laps,the kenyan had plenty of time to "Kick" it in and had more than a lap to do it,since he is not known to be an excellent kicker the other guy won.
@@brettf2 not really... He never impeded or made the Kenyan runner slow down.. If anything the lapped runner was pretty much pacing them. If he got frustrated, thats on him.. After official came in, he had he had another 500m to win the race when the lapped runner fell back and off to the side.. You should watch the entire race. You can see the pacing was never impeded at all. This is more of an argument about a lapped runner staying with the leaders and trying to re-overtake them, but I think the whole thing is a bit ridiculous. As long as the runner does not impede the pace of the front runners, there should be no issue. Running around someone is something you do all race anyway. Its just part of the race. You noticed, when the Kenyan runner wanted to increase the pace, he was easily able to pass the Moroccan runner without incident or being blocked. When the Moroccan runner wanted to pass, he did so easily as well. You never see either of them trying to "block", intentionally slow down, or impede any pass. They were running freely at their own pace the whole time.
@@brettf2 or tripped him up
It doesn't matter what happened here. It's about the difficulty of writing rules.
I'm not a sports person at all but these videos popped up recently and the rule aspect is what's made me watch several. It's an interesting subject.
It's more about the difficulty of UNwriten rule such as letting the way open if you are getting lapped
@@fabienherry6690 Looks , IMHO, like we are on the same page.
@@fabienherry6690 he did not open the way for both behind him, so why blame the winning guy only?
I hope the race official was punished for physically touching a runner while the race was happening.
The worst was the track official trying to pullout the runner. That's plain stupid, you can't touch a runner during the race.
There was assistance whether or not there was collusion. And the idea that the rule didn't apply because it didn't specify the penalty is ludicrous. The crowd was right: this was a disqualification.
That guy clearly had a bruised ego and didn't help either runner and messed them both up.
In many cultures in the world they live by a statement if you can cheat then cheat. Uganda did it against the USA in FIFA 2012. Morocco did it to Kenya in 1992.
Cool story. Ida kicked that judges ass for interference with a runner in a competition.
It says a lot about people too, when you see them behave like this. Not only did they intentionally try to get the head runner out of it’s rythm. If you would have good sportmanship the trainers and everyone around thoose two would have ingrained in them this is bad behavior. Rotten apples don’t suddenly appear. They are made by a culture of unsportsmanlike behavior around them. You see this over and over again in sports were winning and narcissism gets the overhand. Skating, cycling, football you name it. Theese man have to be so “proud“ to be forever known for this behavior.
You just disqualify the runner who was lapped. The lead Moroccan runner still earned the gold, as the Kenyan couldn't keep up with him on the final dash to the finish line.
good videos
Thanks! I appreciate that! Giving me the motivation to keep at it!
People telling the lapped runner to run faster. He did run faster that is why he was sble to pass them both twice
it is a matter of Pride. being lapped hurts.
I think he was trying to be a good teammate and trying to help him despite knowing it is wrong
I completely understand a desire not to finish the race lapped. It's a thing in motor racing that a lapped car who has the pace tounlap itself may do so and I feel for an athlete who is not allowed the dignity of pushing that last bit harder to keep fro being down a whole lap in the biggest events of their life. It's happened controversially in racing even where the team doing the unlapping has nothing to gain by doing so other than running their own race against other lapped cars.
nonsense, being lapped in a 10 000 meter race is not uncommon
its true, sometimes the ego of someone take the lead. especially when you are at the pinnacle of your career
I would agree with you, if he hadn't sped up moved in front of the runner then slowed down slowing the other runner giving his team mate the advantage of staying close or passing the other runner. not to mention breaking the other runners' stride and concentration, again giving his team mate the advantage. He didn't do this to his teammate, just to the opposing runner.
@@williambingham3408 I was also going to take the defense of the kenyan runner, but what he did at 2:47 is unjustifiable, Unlike what happened with Boutayeb What Chelimo Did is specifically written in the rules. You can just grab onto another runner...
@@abricots5588 I understand what you are saying, all I am saying is there is more to running than just physical, there is strategy, planning, pacing and phycological, if the Kenyan runner knew the Moroccan runner had a stronger kick at the end and needed to increase his lead going into the stretch, he was prevented from doing so if that was his plan. contact happens all the time in close qtr's, I didn't see anything at 2:47 other than maybe incidental contact that didn't impact either runner.
Dude just proved unwritten rules can and will be broken
Stupid rules should be broken. Just go around the guy.
wasnt he actually helping the kenyan with his slipstream? ,-)
I remember watching this LIVD on tv. Still boils my Kenyan blood.
I t is obvious that the Moroccan won as he easily outkicked the other runner despite being interfered with as much if not more by the lapped runner.
I don't know anything about athletics, but why is it an advantage that the passed runner kept running with the lead runners? The advantage it gives one runner, it also gives to the other one, right?
Interesting story, i like your videos !! big love from Morocco
Thank you so much! 😀
I don't know much about long distance running, but why don't they make each person stay in one lane? (and obviously people in the outer tracks would start in front of others so they all run 10,000 meters)
Weird that the spectators booed in the same way as the race finished and also during the medal ceremony.
Spaniards don't like Moroccans.
There's currently a conspiracy theory going around in Spain that Moroccans are stealing rain clouds from them, and it's not exactly a fringe theory.
Hate results in irrational behaviour. Spaniards are still very much buthhurt about Moorish Spain.
I think there was advantage and disadvantage, but not so much that it would had altered the results.
Poor sportsmanship! No matter what his intentions were, it’s a violation of the rules. Rules aren’t subjective. They’re there to guide the race . Once you go against that, you should be disqualified. They should have drove up on with cart like, “What are doing? C’mon…get your ass off of the track!” 🤷🏾♂️
Do you have coverage of the fight?! 😅
I don't study sport racing and the possible manipulative techniques used to gain advantage in any detail, but it may well be that the lapped contestant was present there not because of any detriment (say fatigue, strain or injury) but rather by being slow the leaders would necessarily lap him and having been slow he had also been able to husband his energy to allow him to then deliberately hinder the expected (barring any misfortune) winner - sadly he met with that particular pre calculated misfortune in the body of that lapped and recurring obstacle and his chance to win passed. Poor sporting as the audience seemed to agree - another case where you know it when you see it.
Well that's not really fair, they should get to fight to stay on the lead lap. What if a caution comes out and bunches the field back up? Force him to restart a lap down
That is a bunch of crap since they cannot prove he got assistance. I think he rightly won and they should have been sued. There is not one bit of visible assistance.
Let us not forget the political tension between Morocco and spain, in 1992 The Green March was still fresh in people’s mind, I am sure it played a role in the reaction of the public. Like it or not but politic plays a large role in international sport just look at state-organized doping scandals.
One way to reduce the incidence of this, would be to 'split' the track in to two halves... From the start until the first time past the finish line the entire track is open, after this as the runners enter the front straight they either transition from the inside of the track to the outer half, or they transition from the outside to the inner half. If you are approaching the transition area and are NOT in the leading group, you must ensure that you do NOT block or interfere with someone who is, instant DQ, you are flagged off, and if you keep running, banned for the next 5 years.
A runner that is about to be lapped on the same portion of the track (about 800m behind the leaders, so not going to happen often) is required to run 2 lanes out while lapping runners are within 10 metres.
Yeah I feel the track can force unwanted contact and all the rules make it feel less like a competition agains others and a competition against yourself. I know basketball does not have the same rules. Get stuffed tossed at you from cheerleaders. 😂 interference happens. But good athletes like the guy who lapped these jokers can roll with the punches. Make running interesting. The drama.
Personally I think they should have outlawed pacemakers entirely, because they distort the performance of the chasers to the detriment of athletes that performed without them. How can you say that the chasers aren't getting assistance? It can certainly have a huge impact on times. OTOH, if you're in a race you should be allowed to unlap yourself as long as you are running purely for yourself. In this case though it seems clear that it was tactical.
Definitely unsportsmanlike but who wants being lapped on their resume and he owes no loyalty to runners from other countries. I personally would have never done it but tactics like this has always been around, where non contenders affect the favorites in attempts to take them out of their rhythm and comfort zone. Unfortunate to say the least and although it wasn’t good at least he got the opportunity to get a medal at the Olympics.
Okay. That new rule isn't really a rule. It states "pacing in races". What is the definition of pacing versus overtaking any runner or in particular a runner about to be lapped. How is the distinction made between pacing and racing. Except for a dedicated "pacer" whose role I disagree with every other runner on the track is there to race. If you are about to overtake a lapped runner then very loosely by the very loose description in the rules you are receiving assistance by a pacer and you will be and should be penalised according to the rules.
The judge who attempted to remove the lapped runner from the track was exceeding any power that he had. The runner was not breaking any rules nor was there any penalty that said that he could be removed from the race.
Lapped runners making way for lead runners can only be an etiquette as there is no good way to write it into a rule as a lapped runner could well be competing for a personal, national, or area PB and they should be able to do so.
Actually it is extremely simple. If you are about to be lapped you must move 2 lanes over as to not interfere. If the lapping approach you within 5 meters and you have not moved over 2 lanes, you are disqualified. The leading runners take precedence, even more so at an event like the Olympics. If you are getting lapped any kind of record is moot.
In this case, the lapped runner, was a former champion (personal PB?), was at least the second Morrocan (national PB?), and I'm not sure what you mean by area PB... So the first two exceptions you put forward obviously don't apply.