Entire Chess World In Meltdown Over Bizarre New Opening
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 23 ก.ย. 2024
- Entire Chess World Freaking Over Bizarre New Opening - Magnus Carlsen takes up this bizzare chess opening Viih-Sou! Played By Brandon Jacobson against Daniel Naroditsky with success and now everyone taking up this crazy chess, including Magnus Carlsen in this early Titled Tuesday chess game on chess.com 7th May 2024 early tournament.
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“Mom and dad completely ashamed. Get back out there, you loser of a pony.”🤣 That was hilarious.
lolololololololol
That was amazing- actually laughed out loud
I actually laughed out loud at that comment.
I cringed.
@@RandomGuyOnTH-cam601 Wow! You must be so cool! The life of the party! Do you have a best friend already? Pick me!!
Magnus went 7 wins 3 draws with this opening for those interested lol.
Can't wait to see Gotham's video on this 😄
Magnus could have that same record if he playe 1. Nc3 ... 2. Nb1. lol
very conveniently ignored the 1 loss. 8.5 out of 11. The lost game against Paulius Pultine seems like the antidote to this opening. The bar just never picked up. It just went lower and lower right from the beginning till the end.
Where do you see it?
Considering how bad his positions were in all those games, that score is remarkable. He had atrocious positions every game. Completely losing. It's almost like he was trying to give his opponents extreme odds.
I think this is why Magnus is pushing for more Fischer/960/Freestyle chess. You have to think on your feet and there's no one better at that. He just starts with any old opening moves and if he digs himself into a hole, then the fun comes for him in figuring out how to get out of that hole.
Countless of players are better at that, Magnus is known for his great memorization of entire games, the chess/Magnus popularizing episode of 60 minutes claimed it was over 10,000 but it is much greater than that and it keeps on growing. Magnus is where he is at precisely because of that, if he were anywhere close to the best at thinking on his feet in chess he'd be 3000 OTB or at least 2900, because perfect chess memory plus perfect chess intelligence would make one virtually unbeatable.
@@AlwaysForgets but are they really so different? What does it mean to think on your feet? It means you mentally have to move pieces while retaining a perfect image of the board after each move. So that requires the use of memory anyway. This idea that memory is used ONLY to remember complex lines is silly, its used in both cases. And the better your memory is, the deeper you can "think on your feet" and analyze the strengths and weaknesses of various positions. I think he likes 960 because, often times you can get away with certain extremely well practiced lines, and be in such an advantage that you don't need to think on your own that much afterwards. And that's where chess is sort of being ruined. But its not a battle between memory and the ability to play spontaneously, unless you are in a bullet or rapid chess scenario, but it is honestly difficult to consider that real chess anyway.
Working memory and long-term memory are very different things. @@radscorpion8
So is better, as are others.
He's better at analyzing positions than anyone else. They need positions they've researched, so he doesn't let them have that.
Magnus was angry that someone else had tried a stupid line, he had to show who was boss. thanks James
Why the fuck would anyone get banned for any legal move?? So stupid.
@@zanetusken I don't get it either.
Snootiness?
13:01 "hang on, I just lost the game... What did I do?" Story of my life
Btw
The point is that Rf8 can be played in Kf5 line
Relatable
Magnus deliberately played this opening to exonerate Jacobsen. Nobody is banning Magnus for a4.
Was the guy really cancelled for playing a4? Did the woke mob infiltrate chess too?
@@RolandAdams-h4m wokism: famously, the belief that old traditions should be upheld at the cost of anyone who doesn't fit in.
@@kevinmathewson4272conventions, not traditions
@@kevinmathewson4272yawn
@@kevinmathewson4272 Not necessarily old, but _established_ traditions, yes.
Lol, excellent trolling by Magnus. If I didn't know better, I'd say playing this is a hint that he thinks that player was unfairly banned.
So he thinks Brandon really strong enough to rape naroditsky with this opening? it was not just sole lucky gam, Brandon shredded danya in big amount of games😂
Honestly there might be something to this theory
Exactly what I was thinking
Where else can you hear Charles Bronson dialogue from Telefon?
Brilliant job covering the latest controversy!
Can you explain why that's not a hint that he thinks that player was unfairly banned?
I don't think GM Jacobson cheated. I think he got very proficient with an unusual opening and its development and caught very strong GM's like Daniel by surprise.
Yeah makes sense. Also the tilt of losing to such a disgusting opening is a factor to consider.
He’s written an essay on Reddit saying this!
Also playing with 3 min on clock makes it work like a charm
Yeah and when we know we are winning specially like this then we feel that nerves or we get scared thinking he is a cheater or something
@@paulsontag9233He’s a redditor? Gross
The amount of disrespect shown here by giving all his opponents the exchange, he's on a different level to all
His score given the massive advantage all his opponents had is pretty amazing.
"mom & dad absolutely ashamed" 😭😂😂
Classy protesting by Magnus here.
Spot on my friend.
It is not a new opening. It is a way of Magnus giving an opponent a head start to make the game more interesting.
Anyone else would have gotten crushed.
If anyone else did it, Carlsson would cry cheating.
This isn't a new opening. Literally every beginner I've ever played has tried that same thing
Lmao I used to play it too when I started out xd
The difference is every beginner that played it lost to someone slightly more experienced.
@@RobertJWaid any opening will lose to someone better
@Dc-kk9bd too funny 😄
I used to play this opening before I learned the names of any openings
Spotting grandmasters the exchange in the first few moves of the game with ZERO compensation and then going on to win is a remarkable achievement.
Reminds me of the bongcloud incident. Hikaru played the bongcloud in a serious tournament and everybody was going to get bonkers how disrespectful that is. But Magnus happened to be a co-commentator and he played along, coughing up explanations why this is playable and so on. I mean, it's Magnus Carlson, if he says so nobody can prove him wrong. The confused faces of the other commentators was gold.
I want a link to that!
@@patrickmuller7334 th-cam.com/video/qATl41Ofjuo/w-d-xo.html
@@patrickmuller7334 Link:
watch?v=qATl41Ofjuo
The commentary part with Carlson begins at 16:50 minutes but maybe watch the entire thingy
Imagine being #1 but now all you can do is troll people because you're bored. Excellent
I have an idea for a chess tournament. Have 10 chess games prearranged, played 10 moves in. Each player, without seeing the game in advance, picks up from there. For the first game, each player has a 50-50 chance of inheriting black or white. Each time a player loses, they get THEIR CHOICE of black or white position for the next game. If they win, THEIR OPPONENT gets to choose which side they inherit for the next game. But after 3 losses, you get eliminated. Does that sound interesting? Maybe? I call it the "Totally F-ed Up Cup". It will be awesome!
I think that Jacobson should be exonerated
I think that was Magnus' point.
I think we begin to need TWO eval bars.
One for: If the best moves WOULD be played.
The other considering the propability to find them, in the availble time given.
Correcting for elo on the second bar might be good too.
If the best moves *were to be* played.
FTFY. You can't use "if" and "would" in the same clause, unless it's something like "if you would like some coffee".
@@apokalypthoapokalypsys9573 OH! I beg a pardon, connected with a big thank you! ..were to be played sounds so much better.
Now I'm curious: "WHEN the best moves would be played.'" - would THAT be correct English?
@@armynyus9123 no; I believe "if" would be correct, because "when" implies an inevitable certainty, while "if" leaves the possibility for it not to occur.
@@CGoody564 got it, ty!
Was like a football commentator, very entertaining.
Of course magnus is playing this 😂
This is not new. I'm old enough to remember when GM Duncan Suttles was clobbering Canadian masters with this opening in speed chess. It was the mid-1970s.
Oh cool fair enough haha
New imba opening "queen's rook gambit accepted"
If you think about it. Materially white is down 2 pawns (rook for a bishop). But, what is white gaining in return? White gets blacks best bishop, a tempo, free development of the knight on b1, and white sheds the queenside rook that normally goes undeveloped for at least 10-15 moves. It strangely makes sense.
White doesnt gain a tempo here though. Its still just one piece development ahead. And also, putting the knight on the edge is hardly advantage
Magnus excels at pulling people out of familiar waters and drowning them.
Wow ask jeeves! That's an old school reference lol
haha
Never playing chess, still getting this recommended. Something big must be going on.
"swashbuckling" lmao most British thing I've heard today.
"It's absolute garbage but so fun to watch" There you go people find happiness in the small things in life
Can we now admit how much of modern chess is simply memorization and understand how chess players of today aren't necessarily better than players from the past?
It’s not memorization of lines, but familiarity with structures that makes the opening so important. Knowing the themes and strategic angles of a position makes a GM able to get into and play the position more naturally and easily, without using time.
@@zaksmith1035 But it looks like many are spectacularily (for their level) bad in endgames
Comparing blitz games today with inevitable blunders with classical games played in the past is incredibly stupid.
Magnus obviously loves positions that challenge him, rather than rote memorization, or this game wouldn't happen. It was also a blitz game and somewhat of an exhibition by him. Classical vs classical, Magnus stacks up in beauty of positional chess with the best in history.
It's memorization, pattern recognition, some creativity and playing with the opponent's mind. A lot of people like to discount chess as "memorization", but thatn is just the groundwork the game is based on. At some point you have to choose to make weird moves to throw the game into unfamiliar territory for your opponent, like we see in this video.
Magnus Carlson does this on a regular basis, he plays meme openers against other GMs and still wins. That's why he's Magnus Carlson and the rest of us are mere mortals.
Magnus playing this exonerates Jacobson.
That made the Bongcloud look like a theoretical breakthrough.
I know this reference.
LOL " mom and dad absolutely ashamed". Brilliant commentary. Kudos
The biship fiancheetos, the cheese that goes crunch.
Really cool to see Magnus use this. I've played around with this opening before in the past when playing against max level CPU opponents. I've not won yet, but I get close sometimes. I know it's not a great opening, but that's not why I use it. I use it to try to deke the computer into a certain play style by using it as a facade. The main point of it, as I use it at least, is to take the enemies bishop away as fast as possible, ideally using the pawn to take it after sacrificing the rook. Rooks are great and all, but somewhat limited in their ability to do anything til later game. So I figure if I am likely to lose the rooks anyways, I might as well take out some bishops with them somehow.
The knight is used instead for harrying the enemy line, also a throw away, just for later. The main thing here is to open up the queen for attack position against the other queen, or the king. Ideally putting the king into check prior to a castle manoeuvre. Barring that, using both to start a defence against any attack vectors the enemy has building up.
The one thing I should point out though, is that I will sometimes flip sides for this opening, depending on whether I want to castle on the king side, or queen side. Or, I might fake it by moving the pawn opposite side first. Which is technically a different opening all together, but again, it's all about getting rid of those bishops if possible and opening up the queen and king.
Against high level players, I don't expect this to work out well, since people aren't always as absolute in their methods like a computer will be. But against a computer, I figure I can get a win out of it, provided I don't make my usual 2-3 or more 'other' mistakes according to the engine, as this opening is considered a mistake out of the box.
Anyways. That's enough out of me, some chess scrub.
I hate echoing jokes if they're not mine, but fiancheato is good :). I might echo it further at the club. Ask Jeeves, too, thanks, I'll be using that as my own, so you know.
The Magnus effect working like a charm again, where opponents are both stirred and shaken and simply can't sit in the accelerator as long as the former World Champion.
Haha yeah but I also stole that , that one from hikaru (fiancheeto) lol. I mean I borrow lots of phrases from all over 😁 and yeah agreed!
0:57 "horrendous placement [of the knight]" - I think that is where the problem in thinking may be found, because it is way too early for this sort of qualitative judgement of placement, which depends on ones intent, the placement of enemy pieces and esp. the king. And also, the knight is rather fast for it to relocate wherever one wishes it to be on the board. Briefly: this estimation is early and rooted more in traditional thinking, rather than in reason.
No, you were upset about how the "horrendous placement of the knight"-comment broke the narrative. The setup was "In the start Magnus plays bad moves but then he tries to win". On move 3 he takes the bishop and does so trying to win but the narrator's focus on "how horrible the placement of the knight was" made it sound like Magnus was still making bad moves. "qualitative judgement of placement" is just your own brain bullshitting itself when it failed to come up with a reasonable explanation for why you felt unsettled.
Then Robert Frost reference. Cool video
yeah one of my favourite poems that
If "garbage play" wins. Was it ever really garbage to begin with?
Saw the thumbnail and was surprised to see Bam margera was into chess
The absolute endgame nightmare. Only player with great endgame can afford this opening throw.
babe wake up, the funny english chessman posted another magnus video
😆
as someone who knows absolutely nothing about chess, this was very confusing and you seemed very confident about saying letters and numbers
this was like the most confusing sports announcer ever
IKR. But I did guess correctly the move that black was going to make in that pivotal moment even though I knew white was going to win (thanks to the video title). I completely forgot about that white pawn which did take that rook, and obviously so did he.
absolutely love your commentary! laughed several times, keep it up
Glad you enjoyed!
1:30 Mum and Dad absolutely ashamed... LOL Love the commentary
He had a mate in one against naka but decided to grind out the endgame instead.
thats a different level of simping. He obviously missed the easiest mate in 1 with more than 1:30 left on the clock.
Before I learned to play, this was my opening - I always ran up my rook pawns and ran the rooks across the front. I litterally played like it was space invaders and used them as my mutually supporting guns backing my knights. I just didn't have the skills to capitalize on it. Glad someone has figured it out.
Sacking the rook for a minor piece early was popularized by chess engines. They just keep the board locked down and make the rooks unusable until they have to trade back when they dont have an advantage anymore.
Saw this same strategy in a game 40 years ago.... I totally ignored what was happening on the side and pushed forward down the middle.... he lost......
Its just a fact. Magnus is just on a different level. Sometimes it seems he intentionally screws around in the opening and mid game. Just to see how many moves it will take him to win in the end game
Magnus is King from One Punch Man. He wins by having opponents blunder, overestimating his powers
I've used this opening for almost three decades. Didn't know it was special
It should be noted, I usually pay Shogi
After trolling hardcore in the early event he decided to win the late one with 9.5/11
At 14:06 you missed the fact that it's still a draw. Your move White King G6 to F7 allows Black King E5 Takes white pawn on F5.
Ah good spot thanks very much!
For those of who you dont know Magnus deep enough: His skill is not in opening , but in playing a solid mid game and a ruthless end game, squeezes in every single piece and claims victory from unimaginable positions in the end game! Thats just a mix of Anatoly Karpov and Kasparov combined ! Rare to find indeed !
If a beginner played like this, he'd have his hand slapped by his instructor.
Magnus: My opponent plays so badly that I can play like a beginner and still win.
This is the opening I always tried against my uncle and I never got it to work. But this is how you play for fun. Playing it like an actual game rather than a sport.
(3:27)-wht/Magnus:Q/F4
-black, RK/E7 (error):
[black, BP/C2, King can cover the pawn cauz no threat from wht/Queen]
-wht, defense move, likely RK/C2
-blk, QN/C2
-wht, defensive move (doesn't matter)
-blk, great position for a "trident" strike (wait to move 1 of the 3 pawns in front of king until threatened...
-wht, in real danger...
All these GMs fall for the same trick, over and over again. Carlsen plays crazy openings for lure them forward, while in the back, their pawns stay cemented, pieces undeveloped. A big, big mistake. At that same time, Carlsen manoeuvres to structure his ranks for some sort of fortress or deadly attack.
he got destroyed by one of the players in early titled tuesday when he played this opening. Like literally the bar just kept going down and down since the beginning
That is certainly not what happened in this game
If Magnus gives you a piece think twice taking it. He is not makeing a blunder, he is taking you out of theory.
i think the move for black draw @12:23 is RH7
this splits White BF7 to need to choose between take on h7 to advance pawn e6 to e7
or protect RE6
this also skips the threat of PG5
so end game would look like
RH7
BH7
KE6
KE3
RF6
BF5
KE5
KF3
RF5
KG3
RG5
PH6
KF6
PH7 - (Black RG5 cant move to p[pin the PG4)
KF6 - (Black king chasing pawn)
KH4 - (threat RG5)
KG6
PH7
KH7 (now there is only Black King on H7 and White King on G5 and White pawn on G4) - Black to move
KG7
KF5 - (make way for pawn)
KH6
PG5
KH7
PG6
KG7 - Draw
White king can not advance and pawn is blocked by king also repels king
my best guess as a casual chess player
lol the actual move is so much better lol
feel like my non existent rank just got worse TT_TT
Thanks for all that effort haha 😁❤️
Basically the chess expression of not living up to expectations, throwing any counters into disarray.
Too many comments in here talking about Magnus memory. Memory helps in the first 20-30 moves of any game where you've studied all the lines/best moves. Giving every single person in TT a 2.5 head start with an open board is something entirely different. Its total disrespect of the elite chess world! Morphy levels...
When you're the best in the world you can do funky stuff and still eek out a win
It'll be hard to outdo the bizarreness of this opening.
So all it really boiled down to is arguably the best player ever spotting his strong opponent 2 pawns !
Just here to say that the entire chess world did, in fact, not melt down.
Been watching titled Tuesday for years and Magnus basically *always* wins every time. Says a lot about how bored he is and how non-competitive he finds the other players.
New opening? New to whom? You? I play that for 40 yrs now. Have ye been living under a rock?
TOYTLE CHEWSDAY.
Chess was great as a kid. As I get older I can't help but appreciate games that involve reaction time, timing, telegraphing and many other elements to stay sharp. Strategy alone is not enough for the mind AND body.
You ever think he's just bored, and wants to play with a severely loosing position
That is some of the wildest most awesomely entertaining chess commentary I have heard in my life. Excellent, You should be sponsored and well remunerated, thank you!
Haha thanks a lot much appreciated
Tight game a lot of GMs like these Blitz style games Hikaru Magnus they play so many of them talented players playing with confidence they expect to win being they are the better players the only games I play are Daily games sometimes they’ll turn into a kind of Blitz game depending on how quickly players make moves have to admire the pros thanks for the game James
I used that opening every time 10 years ago to beat the Microsoft chess computer on the highest level. Just aggressively exchange away until there is only a few pieces left and then bore the computer to death!
Cover the Magnus-Hikaru game in Late Titled Tuesday. There is a very very easy missed Mate in 1 by Magnus (with 1:32 remaining on the clock)
Will do thank you
@@epicchess2021 thanks man. You are really funny. Keep doing the good work!
Not sure why an unorthodox opening which I played many times as a clueless kid is so controversial. I also don't understand how Jacobson was "cheating". This opening puts you seemingly in a hole, which you then have to play your way out of, and that's where the magic happens, as Magnus showed. As Miles Davis said, "The first note isn't wrong. It's what you do with the next note that makes the first note right or wrong." This chess opening is like that. It's not the "wrong" opening that matters, but the game that follows it.
i did this move as a kid, its not new but the extraction was efficient. The main strength is to piss of your opponent by if you seek to just murder holing anything of value and force a slow game/just removing pieces.Also a good setup to quickly exhchange queens
Played against Norwegian opponents in 2004 that only opened this way. I've called it the Norwegian opening since.
I've been using this opening for over twenty years with great success.
Is "The entire chess world in a calm state after this opening" clickbaity?
Using "prophylactic" to describe a chess move was pretty original though
not sure how new this is, I've seen it being played by strong players for its troll factor for many years online, I think it takes advantage of the fact that minor pieces are stronger early on, so it takes a lot of time for opponent to start enjoying any benefit from being exchange up, and meanwhile he could be already lost strategically or otherways
This goes to show you that the same openings aren't just the go to openings to be competitive
I've been doing Wares Opening for many years. It always wrecks the cocky ones.
when i was a kid this is the opener I would always start with playing against my dad
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Oh awesome thanks a lot appreciate the feedback!
That looks like a form of Hypermodernism.
I won a lot of my attempts in Bullet, online. It was a part of my openings for quite long any way. A passive rook doesn't do anything for a long time. Missing that bishop is worse.
Here was I thinking I pressed clickbait again. Just to watch an ever so slightly off book opening. Boy... was I wrong
Oh thanks lol
Crazy opening and yet he pulls it off. Quite an instructive endgame and even a reference to Robert Frost. Impressive!
Yeah haha
Dude: *moves pawn*
Chess world: *loses their sh*t*
Gawd bless you folks, but you might need to get out more 😅
Tried this opening a couple months ago against my jujitsu coach. He mopped the floor with me.
babe wake up the new opening just dropped
Chess is basically people knowing what move to do when another move is done. There is no real time analyzing, unless you're Magnus.
Geeze man I hope Magnus doesn't get banned as well
whats so bizarre? I open like that every time I play against a computer
I was playing this opening before it became famous, just for fun in casual games. It's surprisingly good in a short time format :))
My mind is just filled with Jack Nicholson in the thumbnail.
True I see that haha
If a player wants to sacrifice a rook for a bishop on the second move that's up to them and the opponent doesn't have to take it if they don't want to, no rules of chess are broken, it's most certainly NOT cheating and you could do it a million times if your opponent lets you get away with it.