As someone living in Curacao, I never expected Asmongold to hear about it. The online casino’s are a HUGE issue here, but the last politician that wanted to stop it got assassinated. What’s even crazier is that my grandparents live 50 meters away from the supposed Stake office.
@@ghoulchan7525 lol, the thing is they're not even using the building. It's just some random building they/someone bought to register their company at.
The reason that two twenty year olds can run circles around the government is that the government is, at the highest levels, full of eighty year olds that can't figure out how to open a pdf. You can't expect them to understand anything about a crypto gambling scheme.
My dad was a huge gambling addict. Growing up in a household like this is extremely weird since you see a person you trust mindlessly throw away money and you can't really do anything to stop them since you get hit with the "I know what I am doing" or "This time I am going to win". Thankfully he has stopped gambling now. These gambling streamers piss me off since they are basically making a bank by farming their audience, twitch pisses me off for allowing on their platform and governments piss me off for allowing this shit to exist in the first place
Gambling addiction and it’s realness should be taught in schools the same way tobacco addiction is. That way when kids get old enough to gamble they know the risks and when to get help
A classic example of how the tech has out paced the law and theres a pretty good chance itll stay this way for decades. For every law or regulation put in place to stop one of these 30 more "surprise mechanics" arguments and examples will surface.
@@TheNullNumber Well true, but it used to be counterbalanced by the fact that law could only do so much about mob dragging you through the street and hanging you on a tree.
@@NonsensicalSpudz tbh it's always been the case that a section of society has both the capability and the willingness to subvert the law. the unfortunate fact is that there's no real way to seal all gaps in legal code, so it is by design always going to be far behind the capabilities of the general populace. the only way to truly reckon with this fact is enforcement of the spirit of the law rather than a strict focus on the letter, but there are very obvious reasons that we don't and probably CAN'T do that willy-nilly
Gambling is a brutal addiction. You MUST evaluate risk, and you MUST know when to stop. I've heard horror stories of how far it takes some people. It's scary
@@Robert_D_Mercer fr fr. About 3k kills in on zulrah in osrs for me to get the pet with no mutagens, and still some people who haven't gotten a single unique non tradeable in 10k kills. Then some get all uniques within 10 kills 😭
@@Robert_D_Mercer my ex roomate lost 8k in a single night gambling with virtual slot machines. He has been to therapy 3 times and is still addicted just as much.
if its an addiction, you might not even have a mental choice in doing it anymore. Tahts what an addiction is. It starts off as choice and becomes an addiction with no choice.
You guys are viewing this from the wrong perspective, Asmon don't have morals and it's obvious to all to see, the problem is that he in a lot of topics has good arguments that we can correlate to him, you guys are putting your expectations and morals at him, this just plain wrong, the guy is an asshole, he knows that and we know that, don't put you expectations at him, because you will just get hurt thinking that he broke your trust, when at the end of the day, you are the one that put your trust in an guy that always says how much of an asshole he is.
train loses 5 million a day, i cant believe there are still people who believe he is not playing with house money. Even real millionaires cant afford that
Like Asmon and been following him only recently, but man is it weird see him get twisted like that when it came to Train lmao. He usually has far better arguments, but I get it, he's a friend.
Right? Diablo immortal is terrible for preying on kids and must be stopped but when it's his friend it's just a stupid tax and the people dumb enough to fall for it probably deserve it.
You guys have to understand that, he always says he doesn't have any feelings for people that are scammed for this type of things, he always says that he used to scam people and thoughts of ways to scam people so he didn't need to work, Asmon is not a good person at his core and he admit to it, he has good arguments to certain topics and we can correlate to it, just don't apply your expectations and morals to him, because at the end of the day he is an asshole.
@@morroc6846 oh I know, and I won't dislike him for it, I'll probably do the same if it was a friend getting millions or me, but I think anyone can see the argument he was defending wasn't the best.
The Asmon persona has a dualistic nature. He has admitted he has no moral quarrels scamming people, but on the other hand, Asmon also has a highly moral side, that likely stems from Zack. You have to weed through the bullshit Asmon says, as he conveys them as objective truths as said through a perspective prism of reality.
RE: Market Share _ In my town a bus company was left to siblings. They split the company in a dispute and ran two competing companies on the same routes. The brother offered cheap prices so in retaliation, his sister put her buses on for FREE. She lost a lot of money in a year but her brother could not compete and closed his business. She took a loan, bought his buses and then, finally the only bus company in town, she put the prices up high and made a lot of money. She is still the only bus company in the town to this day.
I've been trying to quit gambling for so long, these streamers really piss me off, with their fake balances, showing kids the best moments but never the reality of gambling when you lose and can't afford payments, luckily I've got it undrer control but man it really boils my blood.
Stay strong man. Don't waste good character on a dream that isn't going to fulfill you. You only get one life to develop into your best self. Abundant wealth was never part of that equation
cuz they are multi millionaires lmfao, watch some worse streamers gamble then youll see exactly you you dont see on the bigger ones. if someone with 10mill goes to an irl casino and bets 10k on 1 roulette spin it doesnt effect them
"Hes making money so its fine" That blasts Blizzard for making games that are pay to win, to make money, which should be 100% fine. Hypocrite because his friend is part of the subject at hand.
I don't understand how Asmon defends people making money on Twitch off of gambling while simultaneously attacking companies who make money off predatory business practices. His base argument always boils down to 'He makes money off it, so if he is doing it, you can't blame him for doing it' That applies perfectly to game companies. This is such a bad take from Asmon and hes a huge hypocrite for defending gambling as a result.
Because his friends are doing it. With how much he knows and talks about manipulating/scamming people do you really think he wouldn't use those tactics on his audience? Sometimes things that don't make sense actually have a very simple reason.
Gambling doesn't need a defense. People choose to gamble and its nobody else's fault. You both have a terrible take. Its not the governments job to stop you from spending your money frivolously. It's a little thing called freedom.
@@bigfootisreal_ that's not illegal. It's illegal for a minor to participate. That's the law. What additional laws would you propose that don't exert control over individuals? I'm all ears. Otherwise, stfu and stop complaining.
184,000$ is nothing? really? I guess if you're gambling hundreds of thousands it's nothing but i general, 184,000$ is a fuck load of money to some people. I live on the poverty line and getting 184,000$ would massively change my and millions of other peoples lives.
He was joking about the fact that Train has won multi-million dollar jackpots since, therefore watching him celebrating the $184k win back in the day was nothing compared to the multi-millions wins nowadays.
Bro I’ve been following Philion since the beginning of his TH-cam career when he was a fitness Chanel. Glad to see a big Chanel like this is watching his content
As what trainwreck et al. are doing is legal, I should be able to snort lines on twitch and make a fool of myself while getting paid by the cartels handsomely. It's basically the same thing. I'll even add a disclaimer that it might be detrimental to your health, okay?
Yes. (Although technically no, because it breaks the tos you agree to, to stream it) however, as long as it is within terms, doesnt break any laws, you should be able to do whatever the f u want. No one is required to watch you, no one is obligated to follow your lead, and no one is required to pay you to do it either. All of these things are true, and you are also not required to be anyones moral compass, or their conscience, or their role model, by any stretch of anyones imagination, just because you pressed "start stream" on your PC.
@@mikonson4091 The point is the government is slow by the time they make 1 thing illegal. 20 new types of gambling are created which aren't quite illegal.
"It's worse to let bad things happen than to do bad things yourself whenever you have the power to stop them" Asmond with the Spider-Man lines as always LULE
39:56 i'm sorry asmond, but you are wrong here and have been bamboozled in your way of thinking. take your defence of "he just likes gambling, and gets paid to do it. end of argument" and apply it to diablo immoral. would you ever defend that? "he just likes running rifts and spending 500k to max out his character and gets paid to do it. end of argument" is that something you could ever say in the same tone you just said it for gambling? and don't give me any "but it's gambling, so you could make a return. in diablo you lose it all for worthless pixels" the video you're reacting to isn't about value but predatory practices. and these gambling practices are as bad as diablo immorals manipulations so he is absolutely right in calling out train as being part of the mechanism and using rethorical techniques to defend his "stance" on it. nothing stake casino or diablo immoral do to make their custimers spend is defendable. just because it's legal or "good business" doesn't make it good.
asmongold doesnt rlly care about individuals spending 100k on diablo immortal if they enjoy the game LOL, your arguement falls completely flat. asmon is against gambling and he is against lootboxes and pay to win, not really the individuals that do them.
In a world where stream sniping is rampant and it’s already plainly known that casino reps can real-time manipulate wallet-balances/outcomes; I really don’t know how actual addicts like Train can even believe that he’s truly gambling. It’d be difficult to accept that I’m not just moving through a curated experience carefully crafted to maximize emotional highs and lows to maintain interest and capitalize on viewer count peaks, hook commenting viewers that seem like potential whales, and aim for clips that can be used as plausible deniability for Stake’s increasing scrutiny.
To inform people, as a former technician, the return depends on what the state decides. In Arkansas the percentage is around 85-93% depending on the denomination.
It is like Coke or Pepsi being the exclusive providers of drinks in a specific restaurant. They wont make as much because of the deal they made with that chain to have exclusivity for the drink sales as they would if they sold it to them at the regular cost but it eliminates choice and competition.
How can you call yourself a human if you are willing to give crippling addictions to your fans in the exchange for money? People with gambling problems have a 15x higher chance of suicide. Someone like train who has a large audience has likely killed some of his fans through what he is doing which is pretty insane.
Most of us would push a button to kill a person across the world if we got a million dollars. Is train a asshole? Sure. Is twitch the main villan tho? Yes. Its a +13 site and casino shit should fucking get removed. Its sick that they havent
Did you just blame a streamer for somebody else's suicide due to gambling addiction? Jesus Christ you're reaching. It's always somebody else's fault, eh? Let me guess who you voted for....
@@dreddscott3873 i mean, giving someone a crippling affliction is sharing the blame for their deeds to come. I find odd that modern societies, in their blinded way of searching a specific culprit to each person's unfortune (be it themselves), are nonetheless avoiding to look at how modern addictions are rotting away people's mind which push them to all kind of degenerate lifestyle choices on their own. These people are to blame for breaking weak spirits, but then again so is a lot of mega-corp today that thrive on such despair.
22:29 My 4-year-old nephew keeps asking my aunt to buy him McDonald and she bought him just that. I asked her why she didn't buy a better more delicious chicken that is much cheaper and is from a local restaurant and she said she just bought him what he ask for but then I told her that he is barely four. The next time we meet she said she bought a chicken from a local restaurant and said that it was McDonald's and he didn't know any better and liked it more than stupid Mc chicken, as for the toy I just told her to buy a cheap toy from random toy store along the road Seriously those corporate bastards target the kid and the vulnerable cuz they know they could make so much more money than if they were to try and influence an adult that is in their right mind
Trainwreck is just a living advertisement for Stake. Asmon even reacted to a Josh strife hayes video talking solely about how streamers are the future of advertising...
The problem with Australia is our government is run by fossils, we literally had a prime minister who when being questioned on why our internet was worse than Kenya said our internet is fine because he can send and read emails...
29:00 that explanation was crap. If it's more damaging for Stake to let Train go somewhere else, then that means they're not losing money on him. Geico is the exact same thing. What you're saying is true, that they're spending a shitload on marketing to become synonymous with car insurance, but they do that because that means they get more customers and that means they make more money.... Which means... That they make their money back... I mean the whole core of the argument just fall apart if you thought one step further.
It really is inoculation theory lol, Asmon already wants to defend Train and he's giving him logical outs that don't need much thought to go along with so long as he doesn't think too hard. Not saying Train does that on purpose, but what works, works.
What say would the government have about a business I own based out of another country? None. Zero. Zip. I abide by the laws in the country in which my business is located.
You also have to put the winnings in relation to the stakes. 200, 300 or 500 dollars per round is already hefty. Addicts in the store next door play 2 to 5 dollars per round.
If you are truly 15 (or whatever age you really are) Do NOT believe you are above getting scammed. Skilled con artists, and thieves and scammers are capable of tricking even highly intelligent people. As the masses learn and grow smarter, so does the thieves. Always be weary and always be critically thinking. Never let yourself get over confident. Always research your product and never get your news from only one or two sources.
@@tnshg also never be too afraid to admit you got fooled. Thats the reason all these "smart" people continue letting themselves get scammed because their ego wont let them change their ways for the better.
Yep, I never could understand how people get addicted and let themselves get scammed like that. Then I recently realized that for the past few years all i've been doing is consuming content online while doing the minimum amount of work necessary to live tolerably. No growth, only content. This content addiction (which isn't even as addictive as things like gambling, drugs, etc) is just ripping my time away, i could be learning something, studying, helping my friends, my family. I realize that if i just continue consuming content I will stay reliant on shit jobs, won't be able to support my family, and many other problems. I understand this perfectly well. Now here comes the funny part - after i have said all of that, I am here still watching content and commenting. And I suppose you are here doing the same.
Lol Asmon’s tone changes when his friend comes on. And he is wrong on Stake suing someone. He clearly doesn’t know how libel/slander works. Stake doesn’t have to prove anything and the person saying Stake is rigged has to prove their claim.
The only casino games you have even the slightest positive odds in winning at are blackjack poker and a couple specific types of high stakes baccarat (if you really know what you're doing). Everything else is a losers game.
there will always be that 2% of people without morals that make 90% of the profits , and that just drives more immoral people into the business , and so it stagnates with them , and nobody but you will ever have your interests at heart , it might be a jaded view , but it's a pretty accurate one
Slots are like crane games. There are crane games tht the crane will be very loose until you get a certain amount of money on the machine, then you get your prize. Say, if the machine slot is set ar $2000, once it gets to that point, you will win a jackpot of $1800. Why do you think "lurkers" is a term for casino gamblers who roam the slots then once they see a machine played and never get jackpot, they start playing that?
Phillion is doing similar things by using these types of creators to maintain his own platform. His whole content premise revolves around the pink elephant. Phillion could just as easily create content about small time creators and some great things the internet community does. It’s not as cost effective as a high-end drama alert.
No he's not...what he's done isn't unethical...it's not promoting addictive and harmful services to call out bozos Ofc he also calls out the biggest possible stories it's simple math
the train is making a sound argument around 31:40 is absolutely insane. he's literally saying they lose money on me because they pay me so my viewers don't see me gamble on other sites and go there instead of on our site. Wtf are you talking about this is a sound argument? literally saying that they pay him because of course his viewers go to stake because of him otherwise why would they pay him just to have him on their site. Otherwise good takes that one was just a little balls to the wall if you know what I'm saying
I'm not really a depressive person, however thinking about how in the UK generations moved away from gambling, no longer spending all day in a betting shop, wasting money on horses or football, and now? The kids find their own entertainment, I agree if you know the insidiousness of the internet you should MONITOR your child, however, when it get's everywhere, in all the cracks, it becomes a lot more obvious than the wall itself.
the only "gambling" I ever did where the winnings went up into thin air was when my mom was sick with cancer in the hospital. I didn't buy scratching tickets to win, I bought them for us all to scratch them and have a bit of fun while she was bed bound. So I used to get so and so many scratching tickets every day for mom and then of course her favorite drinks and snacks, and then we'd all gather around and scratch together. My dad actually won a big amount once, like 100 usd worth xD we threw a party for him. Other than when mom was stuck in the hospital that one month, I haven't spent money on gambling or scratching tickets ever. That's because I got more worth out of the tickets, with or without winning, when it was with mom before she passed. When my mom won little amounts she would tell me to get new scratching tickets for that money. So I did!
17:47 No joke, after a decade of expensive ass body washes and brand name skin care crap I just moved back to bottom shelf bar soap, generic brand Cetaphil and ye ole speed stick.
Gambling experts are people who know the house has up to a 35% advantage over betters and have strategies for games like blackjack (counting cards) and poker champions with poker strategies (like folding bad hands & betting big with strong hands; AA, AK, KK, etc...).
What does he mean by 96% rakeback? I only know rakeback from Poker, where "the house" keeps a certain percentage as rake, and there are promotions to get some amount (but never 96%) of that rake back.
On their site, most of the machines (slots and some of the other games) have a 94-96% RTP (return to player). So, in theoretical maths, for every $100 you spend you get $94 to $95 of that back. Sounds great right? While true, (technically speaking) not an accurate representation of actual results. Not only are they telling you right up front the house keeps 6% right off the top, guaranteed, but also negates the factor of time. How long it takes to hit that RTP. If you had enough money, and enough time, theoretically you would recoup almost 95% of all the bets you made, and thats a maximum, you already start out in the hole that guaranteed 6%
I’ve been gambling for almost 3 years and I haven’t lost $1 on my net total on 6 separate books. The key is to pick your spots and not parlay everything like they want you to. I know people that have lost almost everything though and I know that’s who they target.
Saying Train has a "sound argument" is technically correct IMO. I think people are caught up in assuming something that Train isn't arguing. Train is correct. His gamba sponsor is losing money because they pay him, but, after that, the argument is pretty easily picked apart. Train's wording is deliberate. It sounds like he wants people to think "oh, they are losing money on the sponsorship. So that must mean they aren't 'making' money on Train," which isn't necessarily true, and factoring in that companies are always looking out for their own financial assurance, it's safe to assume that his sponsorship is gaining some sort of revenue for the company. How much is being made is arguable. They could be losing dollar revenue because of the sponsorship, but there is a fiscal gain that is happening somewhere whether it is making actual dollar revenue or whether it's a break as a "business expense." The Train argument could also be said of really any sponsor. On paper, paying an influencer or content creator will show a "loss" in revenue as an expense. So they aren't "making money" per se, but they are "profiting" fiscally.
If they were losing money on him, they wouldn't pay him. Occupying the media sphere is profitable to them. Indirectly, yes, but still profitable. Train'd argument isnthat they dot profit "directly" from him, and if he's business savvy, it's disingenuous
@@diersteinjulien6773 that’s literally what I said.train didn’t say “they aren’t making money on me” he said “they are losing money on me” but when he argues that point, he’s trying to make it sound like the first statement is true as well. Which it isn’t.
@@Waffuruzu But they aren't losing money on him. He's providing publicity and visibility, which is very valuable, that's the whole point. Just because it's impossible to quantify precisely doesn't mean the money is lost. He's technicaly correct, I suppose, but not moraly
@@diersteinjulien6773 that’s not what I am saying. Train said, “if you look at it on paper, they are losing money on me” referring to being paid, but, like I said originally, “losing money” on someone IS NOT synonymous with “not making money” on someone. At the end of the fiscal year, his sponsor is profiting, and it could even be in a dollar value that is more than what was given to Train, but I said all of this originally. Hope that clarifies
they would not pay train to gamble exclusively on stake if they didnt think people who watch him wouldnt be influenced to gamble on their site. Saying that they pay him to not gamble on other sites would logically mean the company does not want his viewers to be influenced to gamble somewhere else. Trains argument makes no sense and its complete conjecture.
You know I like to call this the “hype-train effect.” It’s all about branding themselves, the company, as the best or better than their competitors. Celebrity endorsements are a mini hype-train. People follow the celebs and do what they do. It then goes from there by word of mouth. Basic marketing suggests if one likes some particular thing they are likely to tell 3-4 other individuals about it. However if they hate it, they are more likely to tell 10+ more individuals. Most marketing research shows bad news gets a rise out of people more so than good. If things are good no action to correct it is needed and vice-versa. Which is also why the news is, well the way it is. Just don’t “buy” into talk, follow the money. Who is getting paid by whom, when are they paid(timing matter), where do they fit in on the chain of operations. Lastly most high level executives play both sides, better to play both sides and put them against one another all the while robbing them blind. Classic bait and switch.
as someone who works in the gambling industry- 1. the game provider of Crazy Time is independent of the casino (Evolution) 2. he probably runs this on a test account not for real money so after a large enough sample of games he will score something crazy like 20X crazy time - it is possible 3. casinos don't have to cheat to make money all the games designed in a way to return for example 96 cent on a dollar bet on average so on average the casino wins (usually this is stated in the game info), that doesn't mean that casinos can't cheat but regulated casinos 99.99% of the time don't do that (the risk outweighs the reward) 4. casinos under real regulations don't advertise to minors and even view young adults as a risk audience bottom line - don't bet money you can't afford to lose, view this as an expanse like going to a movie and keep it affordable and remember that the house always wins (on average) and if you happen to win big - better cash out that money and don't try to make bigger bets to win more
Exactly, if you treat it as a entertainment expense its just something fun to do and if you win cool if you lose o well. When we go to Vegas we set aside an amount we are comfortable with losing at the Casinos. We stop when we have spent that amount total, any winnings go back into the bank account.
Most English Premier League (EPL) clubs that run into relegation battles put Stake logo on their Shirt. These clubs mostly have financial or serious internal issues. Everytime fans see the Stake logo on their club's shirt, they know 90% chance that this club will be relegated in one or two seasons
I do security for a bingo Hall in Alabama and gambling is illegal here. They get away with it the same way, through a fake currency like crypto. The machines are rigged by a handheld computer that's like a big calculator. You just plug it into the motherboard, and boom you can rig it to whatever you want, payout included. I've seen a lot doing this kind of work. It's sad people like me don't get questioned when this stuff is a big issue
Train is scamming his viewers by the sole nature of his deal with stake. If they pay him an "x" amount of money per month, then they are probably earning 2x the money that they pay him, from his viewers wallets, because a deal has to be profitable for both parties.
train has shown how much his affiliate code gets used near the time of the h3h3 arguement, but yes they do make their money back. but they make it back from trains wallet lmao. Also asmons talk about market share in peoples minds is 100% right, companies spend millions and billions to control that
depending on the government facility or institution it normally makes sense for people working there to not be giving it their all or otherwise being lazy. they're often heavily overworked and underpaid, and any benefit you get from a government job is usually taken from you elsewhere. for instance if you're given dental or health insurance there's a good chance you're going to be paid minimum wage. ofc this isn't every job, but it is the case for a LOT of the jobs where we actually interact with the employees, and it's much worse if it's a job that deals with stuff like federal or state health insurance and food assistance, since so many people rely on these services and they're often criminally underfunded and the funds misapproriated with all this being said, i find it hard to empathize with those people on a personal level, since i have a strong work ethic and have a lot of internal motivation that basically forces me to work as hard as i can at any job i'm at - but i know for a fact that not everyone has that internal motivation (judging by coworkers behavior lol) and in those cases it only makes sense that they wouldn't give a shit about a job who doesn't give a shit about them
I can't count the number of times I watch my late mother go to 'the boat' to play penny slots, start with $100, be up to thousands at one point, and leave with $0. "But I had a good time". I guess that's all that matters, right? I go in to play poker with $20, leave with $200 and complain I didn't do better.
As someone living in Curacao, I never expected Asmongold to hear about it. The online casino’s are a HUGE issue here, but the last politician that wanted to stop it got assassinated. What’s even crazier is that my grandparents live 50 meters away from the supposed Stake office.
set it on fire
@@ghoulchan7525 set an ONLINE casino on fire? whats stopping them from getting a new shed lol
Hi i would love to hear some details of the assassination this sounds interesting and important.
@@ghoulchan7525 lol, the thing is they're not even using the building. It's just some random building they/someone bought to register their company at.
@@SuperKendoman See my other comment if you want more info, the case of Helmin Wiel's murder deserves a 2-hour long documentary on its own.
The reason that two twenty year olds can run circles around the government is that the government is, at the highest levels, full of eighty year olds that can't figure out how to open a pdf. You can't expect them to understand anything about a crypto gambling scheme.
80 year old more like boomers rule the world
They could just make Bitcoin illegal, and probably will
I mean, how many ignorance defence for their incompetency can you make until it turns malicious
True, the cutting edge Tech guys alway seems years ahead of the regulators.
@@TotalAlchemy zzxxzxz
My dad was a huge gambling addict. Growing up in a household like this is extremely weird since you see a person you trust mindlessly throw away money and you can't really do anything to stop them since you get hit with the "I know what I am doing" or "This time I am going to win". Thankfully he has stopped gambling now. These gambling streamers piss me off since they are basically making a bank by farming their audience, twitch pisses me off for allowing on their platform and governments piss me off for allowing this shit to exist in the first place
Gambling addiction and it’s realness should be taught in schools the same way tobacco addiction is. That way when kids get old enough to gamble they know the risks and when to get help
And then people saying "it's their choice" piss me off 🙄 (it's not necessarily technically wrong, but it's ignoring a lot of context and psychology)
Also I'm sorry to hear he struggled with that, and happy to hear he's grown with time 🙂
@@syl59281 It is. The same as it's people's choice to take drugs or kill themselves. Don't blame others for your own self-destruction.
man, that sounds like a hard time growing up, i wish you the best man, hope you are doing alright. stay strong bro.
A classic example of how the tech has out paced the law and theres a pretty good chance itll stay this way for decades.
For every law or regulation put in place to stop one of these 30 more "surprise mechanics" arguments and examples will surface.
Maybe on USA will be for decades, normal countries are already banning those shits, many actually.
It was already out paced by the time the internet became public lol
@@TheNullNumber Well true, but it used to be counterbalanced by the fact that law could only do so much about mob dragging you through the street and hanging you on a tree.
Honestly idgaf. Fck it dude, become first trillionaire from other ppl hard earned money cause it's their money. Their choice = Their future...
@@NonsensicalSpudz tbh it's always been the case that a section of society has both the capability and the willingness to subvert the law. the unfortunate fact is that there's no real way to seal all gaps in legal code, so it is by design always going to be far behind the capabilities of the general populace. the only way to truly reckon with this fact is enforcement of the spirit of the law rather than a strict focus on the letter, but there are very obvious reasons that we don't and probably CAN'T do that willy-nilly
How to tell if something is a scam:
1. Would Asmon run it?
It's a scam
I mean, Tbf he played Diablo Immortal yeah? I would consider that a scam. EZ. ;)
*Nervous laughter in OTK*
How to tell if something is a scam:
1. Is what's advertised too good to be true (likely to make _them_ a lot of money and not the -victim- customer)?
Starforge
what happened to the yes/no variable to that question?
Gambling is a brutal addiction. You MUST evaluate risk, and you MUST know when to stop. I've heard horror stories of how far it takes some people. It's scary
@@jebalitabb8228 gambling, in many cases, is a state monopoly so gambling is not their problem, it's their business
I have met many people that have been affected by gambling
@@Robert_D_Mercer fr fr. About 3k kills in on zulrah in osrs for me to get the pet with no mutagens, and still some people who haven't gotten a single unique non tradeable in 10k kills. Then some get all uniques within 10 kills 😭
@@Robert_D_Mercer my ex roomate lost 8k in a single night gambling with virtual slot machines. He has been to therapy 3 times and is still addicted just as much.
if its an addiction, you might not even have a mental choice in doing it anymore. Tahts what an addiction is. It starts off as choice and becomes an addiction with no choice.
Drake giving away money to gamblers is like a drug dealer giving free samples to users to get them hooked on to their “product.”
Watching Asmongold getting all twisted up cause his friend is the one being dragged in front of the internet mob is amazing.
very true
I remember when he shitted on chocotaco and devolved into insults when the guy had a point
@@falaflani4831 Story behind this?
You guys are viewing this from the wrong perspective, Asmon don't have morals and it's obvious to all to see, the problem is that he in a lot of topics has good arguments that we can correlate to him, you guys are putting your expectations and morals at him, this just plain wrong, the guy is an asshole, he knows that and we know that, don't put you expectations at him, because you will just get hurt thinking that he broke your trust, when at the end of the day, you are the one that put your trust in an guy that always says how much of an asshole he is.
have you ever thought that may you and choco are just biased and are assuming peoples intentions with quite literally no evidence?
Damn, it's crazy to think a billion dollar enterprise began with two crypto bros exploiting a loophole in the Australian legal system.
It's not surprising when you know Australians. There's always someone willing to push the boundary
This doesn't surprise me at all. You see how crafty and sneaky billionaires are at shifting round their dirty money? lol
When you see the dude who got his house firebombed for trying to tackle shady Australian gambling it makes sense...
train loses 5 million a day, i cant believe there are still people who believe he is not playing with house money. Even real millionaires cant afford that
People are stupid...
It amazes me how many Trainwreck catch phrases "catch" on to the mainstream and lingo of twitch
thats what happens when youre in the top 5 of most watched twitch streamers in the world and all around Dub guy
@@aydenmartin5650 aint no way you call train a dub guy. Lmfao.
@@aydenmartin5650dub guy lmfao
Why would it shock anyone Drake'd work with these sort of people?
He's been doing this shit since he started being a big name.
It's because you wouldn't expect this from a lesbian.
@@apalsnerg lmao
Like Asmon and been following him only recently, but man is it weird see him get twisted like that when it came to Train lmao. He usually has far better arguments, but I get it, he's a friend.
Right? Diablo immortal is terrible for preying on kids and must be stopped but when it's his friend it's just a stupid tax and the people dumb enough to fall for it probably deserve it.
You guys have to understand that, he always says he doesn't have any feelings for people that are scammed for this type of things, he always says that he used to scam people and thoughts of ways to scam people so he didn't need to work, Asmon is not a good person at his core and he admit to it, he has good arguments to certain topics and we can correlate to it, just don't apply your expectations and morals to him, because at the end of the day he is an asshole.
@@morroc6846 oh I know, and I won't dislike him for it, I'll probably do the same if it was a friend getting millions or me, but I think anyone can see the argument he was defending wasn't the best.
yes its really anoying
The Asmon persona has a dualistic nature. He has admitted he has no moral quarrels scamming people, but on the other hand, Asmon also has a highly moral side, that likely stems from Zack. You have to weed through the bullshit Asmon says, as he conveys them as objective truths as said through a perspective prism of reality.
RE: Market Share _ In my town a bus company was left to siblings. They split the company in a dispute and ran two competing companies on the same routes. The brother offered cheap prices so in retaliation, his sister put her buses on for FREE. She lost a lot of money in a year but her brother could not compete and closed his business. She took a loan, bought his buses and then, finally the only bus company in town, she put the prices up high and made a lot of money. She is still the only bus company in the town to this day.
Basic family , all over the world...I know those stories , from Europe , from the Balkans the most , never forget this :D
I'm loving seeing Phillion all over the place. I found him years ago when he was still just talking about fake nattys 😂
the 3rd eye is everpresent and sees all!
dude ikr! This pivot in genre has been great for his content. Been watching him again now thanks to Asmon.
@@Sekkizan Xqc wasn't sponsored by Stake at the time that video was made which is probably why he didn't include him.
Same lol
train saying kids don't watch his stream is like saying everyone who clicks the 18+ Is 18 or over
I've been trying to quit gambling for so long, these streamers really piss me off, with their fake balances, showing kids the best moments but never the reality of gambling when you lose and can't afford payments, luckily I've got it undrer control but man it really boils my blood.
Stay strong man. Don't waste good character on a dream that isn't going to fulfill you. You only get one life to develop into your best self. Abundant wealth was never part of that equation
@@trev4mv614 preach
cuz they are multi millionaires lmfao, watch some worse streamers gamble then youll see exactly you you dont see on the bigger ones. if someone with 10mill goes to an irl casino and bets 10k on 1 roulette spin it doesnt effect them
"Hes making money so its fine" That blasts Blizzard for making games that are pay to win, to make money, which should be 100% fine. Hypocrite because his friend is part of the subject at hand.
I don't understand how Asmon defends people making money on Twitch off of gambling while simultaneously attacking companies who make money off predatory business practices.
His base argument always boils down to 'He makes money off it, so if he is doing it, you can't blame him for doing it' That applies perfectly to game companies. This is such a bad take from Asmon and hes a huge hypocrite for defending gambling as a result.
Because his friends are doing it.
With how much he knows and talks about manipulating/scamming people do you really think he wouldn't use those tactics on his audience?
Sometimes things that don't make sense actually have a very simple reason.
Gambling doesn't need a defense. People choose to gamble and its nobody else's fault.
You both have a terrible take.
Its not the governments job to stop you from spending your money frivolously. It's a little thing called freedom.
@@bigfootisreal_ there are already laws against children gambling.
Stop requesting larger government to run people's lives.
@@bigfootisreal_ that's not illegal. It's illegal for a minor to participate. That's the law. What additional laws would you propose that don't exert control over individuals? I'm all ears. Otherwise, stfu and stop complaining.
I heard him speak about it a few times. I don't believe he thinks it's a good thing thing.
184,000$ is nothing? really? I guess if you're gambling hundreds of thousands it's nothing but i general, 184,000$ is a fuck load of money to some people. I live on the poverty line and getting 184,000$ would massively change my and millions of other peoples lives.
He was joking about the fact that Train has won multi-million dollar jackpots since, therefore watching him celebrating the $184k win back in the day was nothing compared to the multi-millions wins nowadays.
Seems like Philion getting brutally roasted into leaving the fitness industry was the best thing to happen to his channel lmao.
Yeah the Noel Deyzel vid was bad 😅, but I love his new content
@@iamme1226 ... "jew" content?
First time I saw him was when he was doing that stuff and he seemed like a hater so I don’t get why people like him now.
@@bigjohnson3151 Never saw the old content so all I can say is that he’s spitting now
@@bigjohnson3151 why hold a grudge. he makes good content now. that's some childish shit, you don't know these people in any real capacity.
How bad was the sound on that dudes mic when he hit crazy time. Like he was streaming from a tin can
*I believe Asmon, he literally scammed his audience into consenting to letting him scam them, that's next level scamming.*
that's called what we call a cult.
Bro I’ve been following Philion since the beginning of his TH-cam career when he was a fitness Chanel. Glad to see a big Chanel like this is watching his content
20:29 i thought he was going somewhere way darker with the bridge thing.
As what trainwreck et al. are doing is legal, I should be able to snort lines on twitch and make a fool of myself while getting paid by the cartels handsomely. It's basically the same thing. I'll even add a disclaimer that it might be detrimental to your health, okay?
Yes. (Although technically no, because it breaks the tos you agree to, to stream it) however, as long as it is within terms, doesnt break any laws, you should be able to do whatever the f u want. No one is required to watch you, no one is obligated to follow your lead, and no one is required to pay you to do it either. All of these things are true, and you are also not required to be anyones moral compass, or their conscience, or their role model, by any stretch of anyones imagination, just because you pressed "start stream" on your PC.
@@JustAPriapism Even tho lots and lots of children watch these streams.
At least the gaming would be good.
Just ran across this channel, this guy is hilarious! Love the reactions!
The US Govt did crack down on the online gambling space. Remember the old UFC Betting sites that were popular in 2009?
@@mikonson4091 The point is the government is slow by the time they make 1 thing illegal. 20 new types of gambling are created which aren't quite illegal.
"It's worse to let bad things happen than to do bad things yourself whenever you have the power to stop them"
Asmond with the Spider-Man lines as always LULE
39:56 i'm sorry asmond, but you are wrong here and have been bamboozled in your way of thinking.
take your defence of "he just likes gambling, and gets paid to do it. end of argument" and apply it to diablo immoral.
would you ever defend that? "he just likes running rifts and spending 500k to max out his character and gets paid to do it. end of argument" is that something you could ever say in the same tone you just said it for gambling?
and don't give me any "but it's gambling, so you could make a return. in diablo you lose it all for worthless pixels"
the video you're reacting to isn't about value but predatory practices. and these gambling practices are as bad as diablo immorals manipulations so he is absolutely right in calling out train as being part of the mechanism and using rethorical techniques to defend his "stance" on it.
nothing stake casino or diablo immoral do to make their custimers spend is defendable. just because it's legal or "good business" doesn't make it good.
asmongold doesnt rlly care about individuals spending 100k on diablo immortal if they enjoy the game LOL, your arguement falls completely flat. asmon is against gambling and he is against lootboxes and pay to win, not really the individuals that do them.
The only winners in gambling is the owners of the casino and the sponsored gamblers like Drake, Roshtein and Train.
In a world where stream sniping is rampant and it’s already plainly known that casino reps can real-time manipulate wallet-balances/outcomes; I really don’t know how actual addicts like Train can even believe that he’s truly gambling. It’d be difficult to accept that I’m not just moving through a curated experience carefully crafted to maximize emotional highs and lows to maintain interest and capitalize on viewer count peaks, hook commenting viewers that seem like potential whales, and aim for clips that can be used as plausible deniability for Stake’s increasing scrutiny.
To inform people, as a former technician, the return depends on what the state decides. In Arkansas the percentage is around 85-93% depending on the denomination.
It is like Coke or Pepsi being the exclusive providers of drinks in a specific restaurant. They wont make as much because of the deal they made with that chain to have exclusivity for the drink sales as they would if they sold it to them at the regular cost but it eliminates choice and competition.
How can you call yourself a human if you are willing to give crippling addictions to your fans in the exchange for money?
People with gambling problems have a 15x higher chance of suicide. Someone like train who has a large audience has likely killed some of his fans through what he is doing which is pretty insane.
Most of us would push a button to kill a person across the world if we got a million dollars. Is train a asshole? Sure. Is twitch the main villan tho? Yes. Its a +13 site and casino shit should fucking get removed. Its sick that they havent
Did you just blame a streamer for somebody else's suicide due to gambling addiction?
Jesus Christ you're reaching. It's always somebody else's fault, eh?
Let me guess who you voted for....
@@dreddscott3873 i mean, giving someone a crippling affliction is sharing the blame for their deeds to come.
I find odd that modern societies, in their blinded way of searching a specific culprit to each person's unfortune (be it themselves), are nonetheless avoiding to look at how modern addictions are rotting away people's mind which push them to all kind of degenerate lifestyle choices on their own. These people are to blame for breaking weak spirits, but then again so is a lot of mega-corp today that thrive on such despair.
@@dreddscott3873 stop sucking off massive corporations and the puppets they pay to advertise
@@dreddscott3873 I am not American and I would vote libertarian if I was.
22:29 My 4-year-old nephew keeps asking my aunt to buy him McDonald and she bought him just that. I asked her why she didn't buy a better more delicious chicken that is much cheaper and is from a local restaurant and she said she just bought him what he ask for but then I told her that he is barely four.
The next time we meet she said she bought a chicken from a local restaurant and said that it was McDonald's and he didn't know any better and liked it more than stupid Mc chicken, as for the toy I just told her to buy a cheap toy from random toy store along the road
Seriously those corporate bastards target the kid and the vulnerable cuz they know they could make so much more money than if they were to try and influence an adult that is in their right mind
Trainwreck is just a living advertisement for Stake. Asmon even reacted to a Josh strife hayes video talking solely about how streamers are the future of advertising...
The problem with Australia is our government is run by fossils, we literally had a prime minister who when being questioned on why our internet was worse than Kenya said our internet is fine because he can send and read emails...
There are pro gamblers - they play poker. The difference with poker is that you have more control than any other form of gambling.
29:00 that explanation was crap. If it's more damaging for Stake to let Train go somewhere else, then that means they're not losing money on him. Geico is the exact same thing. What you're saying is true, that they're spending a shitload on marketing to become synonymous with car insurance, but they do that because that means they get more customers and that means they make more money.... Which means... That they make their money back... I mean the whole core of the argument just fall apart if you thought one step further.
It really is inoculation theory lol, Asmon already wants to defend Train and he's giving him logical outs that don't need much thought to go along with so long as he doesn't think too hard.
Not saying Train does that on purpose, but what works, works.
@@TheSweetSpirit Yea, Asmon can be a bit stubborn at times :)
To answer asmongolds question: An expert in gambling is the guy who realizes it isn't worth it and stops
What say would the government have about a business I own based out of another country? None. Zero. Zip. I abide by the laws in the country in which my business is located.
I like that subtle "Lost Ark" tag under the video
Cat Danny is a genius
I’m waiting for a streamer to get money from stake and go “here’s how you make money gambling” and just withdraw it all
him thinking that if you gamble on a slot machine 24/7 that you will eventually recoup your losses is fucking stupid.
> asmon reacting to gambling related stuff
TH-cam: "this man is playing Lost Ark 100%."
You also have to put the winnings in relation to the stakes. 200, 300 or 500 dollars per round is already hefty. Addicts in the store next door play 2 to 5 dollars per round.
The fact that I am 15 and started watching his videos when I was 13. Makes me aware of Internet scams :)
If you are truly 15 (or whatever age you really are) Do NOT believe you are above getting scammed. Skilled con artists, and thieves and scammers are capable of tricking even highly intelligent people. As the masses learn and grow smarter, so does the thieves.
Always be weary and always be critically thinking. Never let yourself get over confident. Always research your product and never get your news from only one or two sources.
@@wildefice1 thanks
@@tnshg also never be too afraid to admit you got fooled. Thats the reason all these "smart" people continue letting themselves get scammed because their ego wont let them change their ways for the better.
Yep, I never could understand how people get addicted and let themselves get scammed like that.
Then I recently realized that for the past few years all i've been doing is consuming content online while doing the minimum amount of work necessary to live tolerably. No growth, only content.
This content addiction (which isn't even as addictive as things like gambling, drugs, etc) is just ripping my time away, i could be learning something, studying, helping my friends, my family. I realize that if i just continue consuming content I will stay reliant on shit jobs, won't be able to support my family, and many other problems. I understand this perfectly well.
Now here comes the funny part - after i have said all of that, I am here still watching content and commenting. And I suppose you are here doing the same.
@@СергейБазанов-ь8ц Hey, the fact you recognize it is a huge step. Keep pushin.
Casinos are evil, online casinos are hell.
Ayeeee I just finished the Dan Schneider video and came here for the stake video lmao perfect timing
Fun fact: Stake is banned in Belgium. Our great firewall blocked it with the traditional police page when trying to connect ^^
welp it's not banned in the netherlands.
Lol Asmon’s tone changes when his friend comes on. And he is wrong on Stake suing someone. He clearly doesn’t know how libel/slander works. Stake doesn’t have to prove anything and the person saying Stake is rigged has to prove their claim.
wouldnt stake have to then disclose how they set up their site? or am i thinking of something else
i love how on my browser shokugeki no soma started playing on the background with the foodmoans on the right moment
An expert in gambling is typically someone keeping track of the averages for live sports betting, odds tend to be lower on likely outcomes though.
The only casino games you have even the slightest positive odds in winning at are blackjack poker and a couple specific types of high stakes baccarat (if you really know what you're doing).
Everything else is a losers game.
"If I get dirt on my face. I just leave it there.... "
" And things just have a way of working themselves out.."
Hahahahahahahahahah🤣ahah
there will always be that 2% of people without morals that make 90% of the profits , and that just drives more immoral people into the business , and so it stagnates with them , and nobody but you will ever have your interests at heart , it might be a jaded view , but it's a pretty accurate one
So all it takes to become a billionaire is BE EVIL
Of course!
Dude has a 4k 60fps camera but holds his mic like a battle rapper.
"taking an L is sometimes a W.." -Asmongold
his excuse for this video
Slots are like crane games. There are crane games tht the crane will be very loose until you get a certain amount of money on the machine, then you get your prize.
Say, if the machine slot is set ar $2000, once it gets to that point, you will win a jackpot of $1800. Why do you think "lurkers" is a term for casino gamblers who roam the slots then once they see a machine played and never get jackpot, they start playing that?
I am glad that Phillion is starting to get more recognition
Phillion is doing similar things by using these types of creators to maintain his own platform. His whole content premise revolves around the pink elephant.
Phillion could just as easily create content about small time creators and some great things the internet community does. It’s not as cost effective as a high-end drama alert.
No he's not...what he's done isn't unethical...it's not promoting addictive and harmful services to call out bozos
Ofc he also calls out the biggest possible stories it's simple math
I'm loading the dishwasher and I hear "where's the ball oil?"
Then realized I've been staring at the wall for 10mins?? before I posted this......
The fact that ads for cigarettes are banned, but gambling isn't is pretty wild
U.S laws writing your morality
A good cigarette with a big pint in front of a pachinko machine, your ultimate armageddon
The argument he is making is called "loss leader". It's a real business strategy.
That's not even one whole Diablo Immortal character.
the train is making a sound argument around 31:40 is absolutely insane. he's literally saying they lose money on me because they pay me so my viewers don't see me gamble on other sites and go there instead of on our site. Wtf are you talking about this is a sound argument? literally saying that they pay him because of course his viewers go to stake because of him otherwise why would they pay him just to have him on their site. Otherwise good takes that one was just a little balls to the wall if you know what I'm saying
Who here remembers Sodapoppin's Blackjack phase where he lost tens of thousands?
As someone who used to work a county job, the most factual thing in this entire video are the words Asmongold said at 8:10.
probably one of the only factual things asmon said throughout the video, this was an L video from him tbh.
You know what’s worse than gambling, tho? Gambling on fucking virtual goods via lootboxes/gacha/card packs.
I'm not really a depressive person, however thinking about how in the UK generations moved away from gambling, no longer spending all day in a betting shop, wasting money on horses or football, and now? The kids find their own entertainment, I agree if you know the insidiousness of the internet you should MONITOR your child, however, when it get's everywhere, in all the cracks, it becomes a lot more obvious than the wall itself.
the only "gambling" I ever did where the winnings went up into thin air was when my mom was sick with cancer in the hospital. I didn't buy scratching tickets to win, I bought them for us all to scratch them and have a bit of fun while she was bed bound.
So I used to get so and so many scratching tickets every day for mom and then of course her favorite drinks and snacks, and then we'd all gather around and scratch together. My dad actually won a big amount once, like 100 usd worth xD we threw a party for him.
Other than when mom was stuck in the hospital that one month, I haven't spent money on gambling or scratching tickets ever. That's because I got more worth out of the tickets, with or without winning, when it was with mom before she passed.
When my mom won little amounts she would tell me to get new scratching tickets for that money. So I did!
"It's never a good idea in my mind to defend something that is bad". Wow
17:47 No joke, after a decade of expensive ass body washes and brand name skin care crap I just moved back to bottom shelf bar soap, generic brand Cetaphil and ye ole speed stick.
Gambling experts are people who know the house has up to a 35% advantage over betters and have strategies for games like blackjack (counting cards) and poker champions with poker strategies (like folding bad hands & betting big with strong hands; AA, AK, KK, etc...).
If you can’t control yourself don’t gamble don’t ruin the fun for the rest of us because of your lack of self control
What does he mean by 96% rakeback? I only know rakeback from Poker, where "the house" keeps a certain percentage as rake, and there are promotions to get some amount (but never 96%) of that rake back.
On their site, most of the machines (slots and some of the other games) have a 94-96% RTP (return to player). So, in theoretical maths, for every $100 you spend you get $94 to $95 of that back. Sounds great right? While true, (technically speaking) not an accurate representation of actual results. Not only are they telling you right up front the house keeps 6% right off the top, guaranteed, but also negates the factor of time. How long it takes to hit that RTP. If you had enough money, and enough time, theoretically you would recoup almost 95% of all the bets you made, and thats a maximum, you already start out in the hole that guaranteed 6%
Where’s the give up on life video
I’ve been gambling for almost 3 years and I haven’t lost $1 on my net total on 6 separate books. The key is to pick your spots and not parlay everything like they want you to. I know people that have lost almost everything though and I know that’s who they target.
Saying Train has a "sound argument" is technically correct IMO. I think people are caught up in assuming something that Train isn't arguing. Train is correct. His gamba sponsor is losing money because they pay him, but, after that, the argument is pretty easily picked apart. Train's wording is deliberate. It sounds like he wants people to think "oh, they are losing money on the sponsorship. So that must mean they aren't 'making' money on Train," which isn't necessarily true, and factoring in that companies are always looking out for their own financial assurance, it's safe to assume that his sponsorship is gaining some sort of revenue for the company. How much is being made is arguable. They could be losing dollar revenue because of the sponsorship, but there is a fiscal gain that is happening somewhere whether it is making actual dollar revenue or whether it's a break as a "business expense." The Train argument could also be said of really any sponsor. On paper, paying an influencer or content creator will show a "loss" in revenue as an expense. So they aren't "making money" per se, but they are "profiting" fiscally.
If they were losing money on him, they wouldn't pay him.
Occupying the media sphere is profitable to them. Indirectly, yes, but still profitable.
Train'd argument isnthat they dot profit "directly" from him, and if he's business savvy, it's disingenuous
@@diersteinjulien6773 that’s literally what I said.train didn’t say “they aren’t making money on me” he said “they are losing money on me” but when he argues that point, he’s trying to make it sound like the first statement is true as well. Which it isn’t.
@@Waffuruzu But they aren't losing money on him. He's providing publicity and visibility, which is very valuable, that's the whole point. Just because it's impossible to quantify precisely doesn't mean the money is lost.
He's technicaly correct, I suppose, but not moraly
@@diersteinjulien6773 that’s not what I am saying. Train said, “if you look at it on paper, they are losing money on me” referring to being paid, but, like I said originally, “losing money” on someone IS NOT synonymous with “not making money” on someone. At the end of the fiscal year, his sponsor is profiting, and it could even be in a dollar value that is more than what was given to Train, but I said all of this originally. Hope that clarifies
they would not pay train to gamble exclusively on stake if they didnt think people who watch him wouldnt be influenced to gamble on their site. Saying that they pay him to not gamble on other sites would logically mean the company does not want his viewers to be influenced to gamble somewhere else. Trains argument makes no sense and its complete conjecture.
damn that's a crazy exposé on a thing everybody already knew.
You know I like to call this the “hype-train effect.” It’s all about branding themselves, the company, as the best or better than their competitors. Celebrity endorsements are a mini hype-train. People follow the celebs and do what they do. It then goes from there by word of mouth. Basic marketing suggests if one likes some particular thing they are likely to tell 3-4 other individuals about it. However if they hate it, they are more likely to tell 10+ more individuals. Most marketing research shows bad news gets a rise out of people more so than good. If things are good no action to correct it is needed and vice-versa. Which is also why the news is, well the way it is. Just don’t “buy” into talk, follow the money. Who is getting paid by whom, when are they paid(timing matter), where do they fit in on the chain of operations. Lastly most high level executives play both sides, better to play both sides and put them against one another all the while robbing them blind. Classic bait and switch.
as someone who works in the gambling industry-
1. the game provider of Crazy Time is independent of the casino (Evolution)
2. he probably runs this on a test account not for real money so after a large enough sample of games he will score something crazy like 20X crazy time - it is possible
3. casinos don't have to cheat to make money all the games designed in a way to return for example 96 cent on a dollar bet on average so on average the casino wins (usually this is stated in the game info), that doesn't mean that casinos can't cheat but regulated casinos 99.99% of the time don't do that (the risk outweighs the reward)
4. casinos under real regulations don't advertise to minors and even view young adults as a risk audience
bottom line - don't bet money you can't afford to lose, view this as an expanse like going to a movie and keep it affordable and remember that the house always wins (on average)
and if you happen to win big - better cash out that money and don't try to make bigger bets to win more
Exactly, if you treat it as a entertainment expense its just something fun to do and if you win cool if you lose o well. When we go to Vegas we set aside an amount we are comfortable with losing at the Casinos. We stop when we have spent that amount total, any winnings go back into the bank account.
I'm adding beyond the groin to my arsenal.
Most English Premier League (EPL) clubs that run into relegation battles put Stake logo on their Shirt. These clubs mostly have financial or serious internal issues. Everytime fans see the Stake logo on their club's shirt, they know 90% chance that this club will be relegated in one or two seasons
36:23 ummm..what? What is this 50 min video about!?!
I tell you what I don’t need - the face of the documentarian on the screen for any amount of time
I work online for a Curacao crypto casino, and can confirm it's entirely as sketchy as it seems.
i like the work ethic in Curaçao. they litterly don't do a thing
I do security for a bingo Hall in Alabama and gambling is illegal here. They get away with it the same way, through a fake currency like crypto. The machines are rigged by a handheld computer that's like a big calculator. You just plug it into the motherboard, and boom you can rig it to whatever you want, payout included. I've seen a lot doing this kind of work. It's sad people like me don't get questioned when this stuff is a big issue
Damn 20x Crazy Time sounds Insaneo Style!
Train is scamming his viewers by the sole nature of his deal with stake. If they pay him an "x" amount of money per month, then they are probably earning 2x the money that they pay him, from his viewers wallets, because a deal has to be profitable for both parties.
train has shown how much his affiliate code gets used near the time of the h3h3 arguement, but yes they do make their money back. but they make it back from trains wallet lmao.
Also asmons talk about market share in peoples minds is 100% right, companies spend millions and billions to control that
I think Munecat covered this topic extensively quite a long time ago. You should go watch her take on it.
depending on the government facility or institution it normally makes sense for people working there to not be giving it their all or otherwise being lazy. they're often heavily overworked and underpaid, and any benefit you get from a government job is usually taken from you elsewhere. for instance if you're given dental or health insurance there's a good chance you're going to be paid minimum wage. ofc this isn't every job, but it is the case for a LOT of the jobs where we actually interact with the employees, and it's much worse if it's a job that deals with stuff like federal or state health insurance and food assistance, since so many people rely on these services and they're often criminally underfunded and the funds misapproriated
with all this being said, i find it hard to empathize with those people on a personal level, since i have a strong work ethic and have a lot of internal motivation that basically forces me to work as hard as i can at any job i'm at - but i know for a fact that not everyone has that internal motivation (judging by coworkers behavior lol) and in those cases it only makes sense that they wouldn't give a shit about a job who doesn't give a shit about them
The scam is him telling us he's gonna scam us
I can't count the number of times I watch my late mother go to 'the boat' to play penny slots, start with $100, be up to thousands at one point, and leave with $0. "But I had a good time". I guess that's all that matters, right? I go in to play poker with $20, leave with $200 and complain I didn't do better.
The commentary made me giggle 🤭😅😅
I’m pretty sure drake is like partner or owns a percentage of the company something like that
Experts on gambling are not under the bridge. They are expeled from tons of casinos for counting cards.
I've said for a long time now that I don't gamble against machines, only people.