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- The Dark Reality behind CSGO. (Illegal Gambling, lies and addiction) Part 1
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“You can only lose 100% of your money but you can gain more than 1000% of it” - average gambler
Lol
The reason for gamblers being depressed is realizing that they are not built different
Sliker: I can lose 100% of my friends’ and fans’ money.
*gets a steam card at age of 12 to replicate content creators, then when they have access to more money.. more*
Nailed it
It is concerning how they have geared gaming towards gambling addicts in such an underhanded way
True
Gotta take advantage of what you can. They are making the choice at the end of the day. No ones forcing them so not much you can do.
If you cant control your own money spending then you don’t deserve to have any money
@@GiRR007 This is wrong on so many levels. There are so many ways to trick and tweak people's mind to essentially prey on them - be it to make them addicts, whitewash atrocities and domestic issues, or to justify wars all around the world.
Just pairing one addiction to another I guess
CS:GO gambling had me twisted beyond belief. It took me way too long to realize I was addicted. I haven't even booted up the game in over 6 years just to avoid fueling the itch to crack a couple of cases again. It's weird describing it because the experience itself sounds pretty mundane, but it can be like touching a wire to your brain.
Edit: I totally agree with Asmon's rant at the beginning. I knew that gambling is a loser's game, and I still went in because I was an idiot, a Grade A, Free Range Moron.
Me too. I had seen one of these sites from an Anomaly video when I was 12 (around 2015). I was playing Roulette AT 12!!! Shit is terrible. I'm so lucky not to have been stuck with the addiction.
I'm so lucky to never have touched CSGO. I definitely make sure none of the people I know ever get into that horrible place ..
@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 csgo is perfectly fine, its a great game and i would say 99% of people who play csgo dont actually open cases
@@friendlyneighborhoodtotall1902 i mean gamble or not depend on you , back in the day im a trader dota2 and csgo them someday i go betting esport with csgo and dota2 items and not different from others im lose everthing i earn over trading then im stop gamble , im still play csgo and dota without gamble single cent
Do you agree with asmon when he says raid shadow legends or other games with lootboxes are completely different because you don't get dollars back?
I feel like someone showing a kid porn and a kid randomly finding porn are pretty different things - if only because the former makes me way more uncomfortable.
If someone makes a TH-cam video for kids and promotes it as a video for kids, lets say it looks and functions like a Bluey video, but all of a sudden the creator jumps out and flashes the camera. It SHOULD be seen just as bad.
As an addict in recovery. Thank you for bringing awareness to any form of addiction.
8 years here.
keep it up dude.
I lost half of my worth, luckily I woke up before I lost the rest.
@@pitbullterrier4277I lost it all but then a skin sight made a mistake and cashed me out in 4 pervious wins that they thought I had not received yet and I sold the skins for real money and came back a tad over even lol, got lucky as heck and learned my lesson. Haven’t gambled since and this was way back
Lost 30 k in a year of gambling and that was two years ago and i managed to earn back some of it from selling some skins that i won but iit didn't change anything and since then i'm never going to gamble anymore in my entire life hard to keep it though still getting urges and my mom was like that aswell so guess it runs in our dna kinda crazy :/
Im an addict. Not to gambling. But ive struggled with addiction for years. Ive been clean for about 10 years now, so im proud of that. But i just wanted to say, being an addict, I made the choice to start my addiction. I made the choice to continue. I made my own choices. Now, after i was in full blown, out of control addiction, it felt like i had less of a choice. But guess what? I wanted a family. So i made the CHOICE to get clean. I made the CHOICE to seek help. All addicts have a choice. Everyone has a choice.
The most disgusting part about this is that most people who get into cs gambling are underage - that's, at least in my eyes, the problem
people are going to hate me for saying it but there should be some sort of age verification for the internet somehow. It has to be the countries that do this because the sites themselves can't be trusted to do it as the p*rn industry has clearly shown.
True I got into csgo when I was 14 and I was very interested in gambling and trading because of all these sites. Good thing I was broke so I was not able to spend a lot and just did trading. But one of my friend dropped like 500 $ into csgo gambling with his dad's credit card. Truly disgusting shit.
Heading to the gym for a few days after the weekend p😊
@@p3rpNZ agreed, and since the parents are too stupid/lazy to do anything about it and has been since the birth of the internet, the state needs to jump in and fix the issue.
And the fix is to force these websites where you have to be an adult to use, to actually start age verifying people of face huge fines.
@@p3rpNZ No clue what your on about. Bad parenting? You gonna get them probed witha tracking device and take every bit of privacy from them? While theres quiet alot of stuff you can do to prevent your kids from doing stupid sht. As soon as they have internet access everything goes. You can control whats happening at home. What ya gonna do about the free wifi hotspots you have everywhere? What about them staying at a friends place? The problem lies with the people running the show, not the ones using it. You can teach your kids as much as you want. all it takes is that one friend to introduce them to something you deem bad.
Dude I am glad this whole genre of vice doesn't appeal to me, I hate gambling because I hate losing my money. Played some slots for my little brother's 21st birthday party at the casino, I felt so stupid just for losing the fifty bucks I set aside for the occasion.
Made me sick to my stomach.
I'm in the exact same position, went with friends and lost 50 bucks, I wanted to break everything and felt bad for 3 months, no joke. And no, 50 is not a lot of money to me.
Me too. I have my own vices and addictions that I struggle with but I'm actually relieved that it isn't gambling because you can lose so much fucking money with that. I think even if you earn 6 figures + the only thing changing is the amount of 0 you bet with to feel that rush.
It was probably a dumb decision of my parents to play slots with me as a child but I lost the 10 bucks they gave me and I learned that it's a waste of money and that it wasn't even fun... that probably had a positive effect on me.
Same
Lmao house always wins bro!
Lol my family are hugeee gamblers but inexplicably they just almost ALWAYS win and I still hate gambling.
We make trips to Nevada River for boating and they gamble all night every day. To the point they shove 100's of dollars at me just to get me to gamble cuz they know I Hate loosing ANY money for no reason.
They almost always leave vacation 1 or 2,000 dollars richer. My first time gambling I lost 50 bucks in 5 minutes on roulette on a cruise ship and almost sank the bitch.
My father had a serious gambling addiction, and lost about 3 million USD give or take(I'm Swedish so the conversion may be wrong), I went on a trip with him when he was a trucker and he deadass played the slots on a laptop while driving a multi ton truck on the highway. I'm honestly super thankful that gambling becomes more and more regulated tbh,
Det där låter som något taget rakt ur en sketch från Galenskaparna.
@@Slashgibber Var tvungen att kolla upp vad det var för något(Man kan inte veta allt förlåt) och haha ja kanske stämmer.
3 million???? Over How many years? unless you're rich af
@@siegebot82 Over a decade, not in a shorte while
As a active, wanting to quit smoker... I can 100% agree with what you said at 4 minute part of the video. You are right we lack control, self discipline and the will power to quit. And everything else is just a sad excuse and your lack of effort.
You can do it man. It's gonna be hard as hell but in the end you'll feel way better. The desire will fade and in the end you'll hate the smell. I promise. Good luck 👊🏻
Quitting smoking is HARD man. Don't blame yourself too much.
Someone once said to me that you're a smoker for life. i.e : people who never smoked don't understand what quitting actually means. They think it is reverting back their state (not feeling the need to smoke after a while), while in reality it means reaching a 3rd state where you still would like to smoke but learned how not to do it.
you should try going full cold turkey, worked for me. Tried to scale down the intake but kept relapsing. The only way to stop the addiction for me was cutting it off completely. Feels great to not have that urge every hour.
@@BreakingBad13people don’t understand mental addiction can last decades not to make anyone lose hope it’s true. I’ve been off so many drugs for years like basically 10 different ones and I feel great but always have the feeling of going back.
I can sugest you champix pills. Could not quit nd it helpet so much. Reserch it
I think one of the issues (that I personally for awhile fell victim too) is the notion that gambling in a video game isn't real gambling. When I was 10 years old and unboxxing crates in Team Fortress 2, it never crossed my mine that it was gambling, which is how they hook kids to fall into gambling addictions. I had horrible spending habits for years because of it, and used to deplete entire paychecks and college refunds on it due to obsession. Wasn't until I got a girlfriend (now wife) when I turned my shit around. It's little steps each day that they use to manipulate users into spending more.
Yes, exactly. It doesn't seem like gambling and that is how they pull kids and adults in. I'm glad you were able to turn things around, great job. So many people can't.
I don't get into any new lootbox/micro games anymore. And I can't say I ever had a gambling addiction per say but I was still really bad with money until a few years ago and I'm 34. We don't plan on letting my nephew play anything with lootboxes ever. We're concerned we'll hit a point where his friends might all play some mobile gacha game but we're prepared to take the heat and maybe even stop other parents from letting their kids throw money down the drain for vapid, brain-dead experiences.
this happened to me, i stopped gambling like 6+years ago but spending habits have been worse ever since.
Thank you asmon for staying on this subject and continuing to rant / pop off.
Asmons realization that the euro is stronger was priceless he's been hating on it this week😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
3:24
I think this is a crucial lesson that everyone should learn when growing up. I've been trying to ensure my children are aware too.
Your circumstances might not be your fault, but improving them is your responsibility.
You can get help, absolutely. We can try and create a world that improves those initial circumstances as much as possible.
But at the end of the day, the person has to make the choice to act on making their life better. If even only to reach out for help.
There is a point that making a choice is not possible anymore. They need help and it's society responsibility to help them
@@MaxPalaro As a former addict, I will say that having help from others isn't bad, it's great and very helpful. That being said, if I didn't do the work to stop myself then nothing would have changed no matter how many people held me down.
When someone says "it is your personal responsibility", that means that all external forces can be at play, but if you are to be a free person at all you will need to at least proactively accept the help given.
This is why saying it is "society's responsibility" doesn't entirely work.
Barring physically restraining someone and destroying all sense of personal liberties, you cannot assume responsibility for another person in this context.
Though, this is why children are not supposed to be responsible: it is on the parents to control this, physically if needed.
And parents may get together and produce a governing body to facilitate that (adults vote in government to create regulation that provides some form of protections against targeting minors).
I guess an adult can be diagnosed as "incapable of self sustainment", I have seen that before, though usually for those with mental disabilities.
A society can provide avenues to help, as a society may deem social programs that uplift standards of living has an overall better impact on the living conditions of everyone (less people that are poor, desperate and depressed can lower things like crime, etc).
However, unless we are willing to take a person's freedoms away entirely "for their benefit", basically making them a ward of the state or somesuch, we should be letting that "responsibility" to seek out or accept help for their problems on the individual.
And when the chips are down, and you strip everything else away, YOU are the only person fully invested in taking care of YOU. Waiting for someone else to solve it.. well, that might never come.
That's the reality, regardless of what "should" be.
Teaching people to take responsibility for their own lives is important, if not critical, even IF we try to make things better with societal programs.
@@MaxPalaro I agree. It's like telling a person "just stop smoking" or a fat person "just stop eating". There is an aspect of personal responsibility, absolutely, but as a society, I would hope we would try and improve so that less people fall into that hole to begin with. That's why there are anti-smoking initiatives. That's why there is more education on healthy food habits. And like with gambling, yes, you have to be responsible for yourself to know not to gamble, but I don't think it's a bad thing for society, businesses, influencers, etc. to at least discourage it.
It's not one or the other, it's both. We should learn to take responsibility for our own lifes, AND do our best in discouraging it. And it's especially scary when these gambling sites tow the line of appealing to kids who are more susceptible.
@@MaxPalaro it might be, but that's only in an ideal world. no one's gonna help you in reality. if you don't help yourself no one will, complaining that no one is reaching out is a waste of time and solves nothing. they themselves need to take action
The start of the video, people defending people from their own actions. No wonder the world is where it’s at, just crazy
Everyone has vices that they ultimately have to tackle themselves. It would certainly be better if there were better systems in place to keep people on the right track, and we should work to improve those systems, but there is a level of personal responsibility. From multiple psychologists I know, cognitive conduction therapy is hugely helpful.
I was addicted to mobile gacha games for about 2 years, spent around $2500 in that time. It's an insidiuous thing, because you're not wholly aware of just how much you've spent, as all the bad rolls get all mashed together in the haze of F.O.M.O and quick dopamine rushes.
Eventually, you have to remove yourself from an environment where you make bad decisions, even if that means having a trusted 2nd party handle your purchases for a while. Anything to beat your demons.
trust me 2500 isnt that bad, i personally think gacha isnt that much of a gamble to me cuz i know im paying to win regardless
At least i get why people spend money on gacha game; it helps the player make the game easier or whatever. And im not saying its better.
But i still just dont get the damn idea of like "gambling" csgo skins, its fucking skins, it doesnt help you to suddenly become top1 in the world.
@@LankyAssMofka lololl my man
I mean you can make money gambling, but you will probably lose. With a gotcha game you can't make money and you will definitely lose money. I personally hate both, but feel like wasting money gambling should at least come with the potential to make money.
@FJL36 it's cuz they can sell them for money. The skins aren't the point, they are like chips.
If you think you're starting to develop a gambling problem with CS or any other online game, or other forms of gambling. DO NOT BE EMBARRESSED. You probably think it's a stupid way to lose so much money and everyone else will too. And that's because it is. Go get help. Tell the people you love how much you fucked up, and that you're trying to get better and you need their help. Because you absolutely will need a support system and need therapy if you develop a gambling addiction. But ignoring it or thinking you can fix it on your own is only going to maker it worse.
gambiling hurts alot of people. i think the more chances you have to gamble then the more chance you will start in the first place but if the rules were a bit stricter then they may not star in the first place but everyone has to be accountable for their own actions. so yea i totally agree with you man. i cant really see a way to change this but it still sucks
@tapp.on.my-pic78 Stop scamming people and promoting sexual content. Its terrible and disgusting.
Stupidity hurts more people, no one fighting about being smarter.....tf
It makes zero sense how you have to be 18-21 in most jurisdictions to walk into a casino, but an 8 year old can spend 100s of dollars opening FIFA packs or CSGO cases. US or EU need to ban loot box systems from products marketed and sold as video games which will force all developers to remove it from their game or else they won’t be able to sell to a large demographic making them earn less money keeping the lootboxes and selling it to countries that allow it. It’s a legal loophole and it’s disgusting how it hasn’t been fixed yet.
@@quicktymes7278 It makes all the sense, parents regulate the spending of their child, and once they become an adult they become responsible for their actions. Just be smarter, you and a lot of other people hide behind another human to tell you no then you saying no yourself. it's fugging nuts.
@@brandynderrick8571 stop saying this shitty take, children are not responsible for their actions and this video clearly explained how easy it is for a kid to hide it from their parents
I was addicted to amphetamine in my 20's and in my 30's I drank 10 pints of beer a night for 10 years straight, I know addiction, I struggled to pull myself out of it. And now that i'm no longer addicted to anything I guard myself against my addictive tendencies getting help as needed. When I was 17 a doctor prescribed me ritalin and when I took it I felt happy very happy and I was happy for hours, that escalated to amphetamine and I got addicted. But Asmongold is right my addiction was my fault maybe I was a little addicted by the normal dose of the doctors prescription but I knew when I decided to start taking extra pillls back then that it was wrong I may have been 17 but I wasn't stupid. A lot of people would look at my case and blame the doctor, but like I said Asmon is right one day knowing it was bad maybe not realizing how bad but knowing it was bad I chose to take that extra pill. And once your addicted, it's not your fault that it's very very hard to get out of it. But it is a fact people can beat addiction and while it's very hard, it can be done and if you don't do it your responsible for the actions you take that harm those around you. I can honestly say alcohol was harder to get under control than amphetamine, but I beat both. There are things in an addcits brain changes they can't control but that leaves every addict with exactly two choices they can say it's not my fault and just give up on life and keep using drugs, or they can say I screwed up got myself into a very bad situation that I need help to get out of but I've heard of it being done and I'm going to keep trying things until I can stop doing whatever drug I was doing at the time. If you believe it's not your fault you give up control and lose hope of getting better. If you say I got myself into one hell of a mess but nobody will get me out of it, if you realize nobody can do it for you and you have to take responsibility and do what it takes to get better well that's when you recover. I'm sure I'll get a bunch of hate doxed and whatever but for anyone out there who is addicted and reading this you can choose to take action to get help and do what you need to do to get better. Nobody else can resist a craving for you.
Fellow recovered addict here. Yep, spot on. Everyone screeching that he's diminishing the plight of the addicts has never been an addict that had to seek help and yanked themselves out of that pit of helplessness and despair. The first thing any addiction specialist will tell you is to take accountability and decide to get better, because until you do that, you're going to continue the pattern of behavior. Classic armchair netizen take that has no clue what they're talking about and thinks they know what's best for everyone.
Some people are more susceptible to addiction, people with ADD for example
@@Dearth_Vader That's true, that's why I was given ritalin in the first place, I've read research that if you start it as a child and keep taking throughout growing up it actually lowers your risk of drug use and addiction. My problem was it caused me to go into a depression as a child and when i went back on at 17 it had a totally different effect on me. As a child I never felt any type of high even though I was taking a higher dose back then. ADD also leaves you at higher risk for depression on it's own. I'm studying psychology in college not because I want to make a career out of it but just because all of these things are fascinating. Though I can't pretend to understand a lot of it
@@meowmixzz thanks for the reply I'm glad i'm not the only one who feels that way. My comment probably was a little harsh I was a bit annoyed when I wrote it. It's all a very nuanced thing and sure there are things about the situation the addict can't control and I wasn't trying to minimize anyone's plight god knows I know how hard it is and I've known people who had way stronger addictions than mine and I still can't fathom how they stopped. I mean to stop something like heroin that takes an unbelievable amount of willpower. I do wish I had put some of the things I said more kindly or gave more nuance to it but it's so hard to have a nuanced conversation on the internet which leaves it open for everyone to misunderstand and disagree. My main point is no matter how you feel about the rest of what asmon said about addiction he was definitely right about the fact that if you don't take initiative to either get help or change nobody will make you do it.
@@drakzonbm 100% homie, I don’t disagree with anything you’ve said
Twitch isn’t going to let anyone gamble on their site unless they get their cut.
Let’s combat gambling by educating people on rng and how it works.
People know it’s just they can’t get over the feeling
Twitch banns gambling but allows 99% naked girls in pools i don't get it
All you have to do is turn on your computer and press some buttons. You don't even have to go to the casino. Even worse you may just log into to play some games and the gambling stuff is shoved in your face. It's too easy. Getting drugs is harder even.
Yeah I was so addicted after I graduated high-school in 2015. First few years of college I threw it all into csgo gambling and it left with me with a decent amount of debt. Thank God I'm out of that hole now. I don't even gamble now when I go to Vegas with my family lol.
You took out loans to gamble in csgo?
problem is no accountability its everyone else's fault
Thank you! I’ve been an opiate/heroin addict for 15 years, which started with a doctor prescribing me Norcos. Dr. plus prescription must mean it’s OK right? I chose to ignore what I knew could potentially turn in to a nightmare!Even though I’ve been clean from substances, for six years, I am still addicted! That will never go away! At some point in my life, I chose to do something and didn’t know what the consequences would be 20 years down the road! I knew what it was and I knew right from wrong and I know that I put myself in that situation! Realizing that it is a disease doesn’t take away from the fact that I basically did it to myself and now I have to hold myself accountable and dig MY way out just like I dug MY way in! All these tool bags with their non-educated comments need to keep their cock holster’s shut especially when never having been in any situation of the like😢 good day❤
Im glad that you manage to overcome your addiction or keep it suppressed.
I wonder, ppl saying that human body replace cells every 7 years. I wonder, if addiction act in a way that your body need certain substances to "work better", 7 yrs sober should cure it cuz there'll be no cell in your body that remember substance that you're addicted to...... IDK, just my thoughts
@@lukas1392 Urban myth. Many types get renewed very fast, but a bunch of crucial types have to basically last you a lifetime. Many of those in the cerebral cortex fall into the latter category.
@@lukas1392 I know in my case, I put my body through pretty massive and intense withdrawals to the point where permanent damage was done to my lymphatic system and sweat glands. Any time that I sweat whether it be from physical exertion or just being hot it brings back some of the feelings of withdrawal. It’s been almost 7 years and the lack of normal energy and the amount of fatigue that I have has never gone back to normal…. Yet, I was masking any pain that I should have normally felt with opiates for so many years that I don’t know if I could tell you what it feels like to be normal… as symptoms of withdrawal still creep from time to time. It’s pretty frustrating after all this time and your body still doesn’t feel right, whatever that may be
@@lukas1392 There is something mental addiction, man. Just lack of physical one just does not erase every fuckup that it did to your brain, self-esteem and every mental system in works.
It's the doctors fault you used your meds wrong. Be you chick.
Addiction requires compassion but that doesnt excuse addict for their responsibilities. In fact taking responsability is a step to recover from addiction.
If something can be exploited, it will be exploited. And you can't put the blame all on the people that try to prevent them, "victims" are always partly to blame since they were the ones who fell for it in the first place in any aspect, gambling or otherwise.
I've never thrown money into a poker machine, slot machine, races, lotto etc. My father was a catastrophic gambler, seeing first hand what that had done to our family, that was really all the motivation I needed to simply stay away from it for my entire life. I doubt people are unable to do the same as I have done. While I understand how it *can* happen, I can't really have sympathy for it.
I’d imagine most people who get into gambling either have family that have a “manageable” addiction or are simply looking for a coping mechanism. I’m the same way as you but with tobacco products. Seen my dad deal with it my entire life and made a decision very early on that I wouldn’t try it. That being said, if he viewed it more positively, or if I grew up in a culture that wasn’t so explicitly against it, I could very well see myself doing it. Life experience is also only part of it. Not everyone gets addicted to gambling, it’s a certain mindset that does so, and they are chemically addicted to the feeling of risk, not the feeling of winning. Therefore they will gamble no matter how much they lose.
While people ultimately make their own decisions, I do think that regulations that bar minors from gambling should be the absolute bare minimum, regardless of platform and method. It ruins people’s lives, and people literally die every day because of gambling. It’s not something that kids should have access to, arguably adults to a capacity as well.
God damn you are so awesome. I wish I was like you. I just feel like, now that I know you have no sympathy for my crippling gambling addiction(which turnt me out to the streets to feed my habit, but you dont care so it doesnt matter.) , I will never recover and live an awesome life like yours.
@@rickp46 =)
"Here is my very specific personal experience of why I'd never consider gambling, I don't get why other people don't feel the same as me"
@@kitsunami7251 Exactly
when you have a friend who have his life taken away due to gambling addiction, leading to heavily in debt and suicide leaving a child and wife you know gambling addiction is not a joke.
3:45 : that take was trash… first 3 steps of recovery from addiction is admit you have a problem-> become willing to make a change-> realize you yourself cannot guide yourself out of addiction, you need some “higher power” to hold yourself accountable, and help you make better choices.
@@magicmanbran54Look it up? It’s literally like the most common knowledge recovery steps from addiction lmao
Anything that is an addiction is still a choice.
This is as prevalent in sports as well. Remove gambling and a lot of the funding and interest would evaporate. They need the addiction part to survive.
i must be addicted to baldie because no shot i would watch an hour and 40 minute long react video about a game I don't even play with any other "creator"
$120k per month for a gambling sponsorship while the average person in this country doesn’t even make half that in a year. Crazy
I suddenly feel my first loot box was pokemon cards 😂 also as I knew Charizard sold for a lot of money 🤑
They have been dropping gambling vending machines on the street you can just walk up and loose everything, its crazy
“This is a problem for millions of people and is targeted at children”
Asmon:”well don’t do that thing duh”
Why didn’t we think of that?
I grew up with an alcoholic father and idolized him. After I got older I realized being a drunk wasn’t for me and I stopped drinking. I did the same after I got hooked on Fentanyl after a serious auto accident. The only way to get help and get out of bad habits is to actually want to do it yourself. No one can tell you, court can’t mandate you, only you can come to the conclusion to stop and seek help. Excuses are just that, a bs reason why someone won’t put in the work and blame someone else for their problems.
I love your content so I’ll have to start tuning in to your streams because I’ve had 10 advertisements during this video already and I have another 17 minutes left lol
Remember when TH-cam only had ads at the beginning or end of a video? Lol
Companies are hiring scientists to literally build addiction into their games.
as said in the video, it's the parents fault. For people saying they can't keep an eye on their kids 24/7, you're missing a crucial part. We're in an era where parents should be able to google "how to block a website". Parents now grew up with internet, they know what's going on, and they ignore it on purpose.
Yea, my mom neglected me, it led to me finding porn on my 2ds and ps vita. I wasnt even in 4th grade😑
When i was 12, I made my own decisions, just because you're a kid doesn't mean you don't know how to make decisions for yourself.
I stayed away from gambling, you know why? I seen how lose of money affected a person, through my own family.
Where my cousin, who was 21, doing drugs, working the street and making a choice to live her life that way and still end up with nothing,
I said "f this, I don't want that to happen to me." And I stayed away from it. No one talked to me, no one taught me a thing, I just decided "Do I want money or not?"
I think the word you're looking for is responsibility. That's why this marketing works so well; especially for this generation
And i thought genshin was bad oh wait i mean cod moble oh wait i mean diablo immortal oh wait i mean 80% of FiFA and sports games.
It is a sickness and I know it's their fault in the begining, but someone needs to save them, because they are sick now. I know they choose, but now they cannot choose any longer
I would partially agree with you, it is a disease and your ability to choose is greatly diminished and people offering help is awesome, the problem is you can't force an addict to take the help. sure you can lock them up for 90 days but once they get out and are alone it's all up to them. I think that is what Asmon meant about personal responsibility that even if it's a dissease and horribly deep hole to get out of until an addict can realize it's a problem in their own mind and take the responsibility to either accept the help that's offered or ask it no amount of treatment or offering help will work. This will be my last comment on the thread I don't want to start drama. But I think you and a lot of the others that think like you do have half the story and the people who think like I do are telling half the story but you don't get the truth unless you put both halves together
You can always choose. I know people who are addicted to hard drugs, but have been clear for several years. The addiction never goes away, but they choose, every day, to stay away from the drugs. Telling people they acannot choose offers them no way out of the addiction.
Gamblers that have profited keep going because they think they'll get more.
Gamblers that have lost money keep going because they think they're close to a win.
There's no mental illness, they just have no understanding of statistics.
the lost are lost. it is only about shielding children till they are old enough to have no excuse for their decisions. any more is unreasonable
…yeah, they can, it’s not involuntary
Smarmy Asmon is worst Asmon. Between him and Charlie (Cr1TiKaL) I seriously don't know who loves to be right and to say "I told you so" more. It's a tight ass race, I'll tell you that much.
Addiction starts with a series of bad decisions. Asmon wasn't wrong on his take. I would explain to my patients that they ended up in their predicament by way of poor decision making. The best way to recovery is through re learning coping mechanisms and retraining the reward center of your brain. Learning to take accountability for your decisions / actions is paramount. Gambling addiction is in many ways the exact same as drug addiction and alcoholism.
To be honest, i have a gambling addiction, im to blame for being weak mentally, but i really hate it when people say that quitting is easy,
i love watching people stream gambling because it makes me not want to actually do it. i f2p on enough gacha games to get my fix but watching people lose money also helps ngl.
So basically, you open an online casino, people with accounts you give a certain tiny amount of money every amount of time or activities like those 'watch ads to make money', and now you're NOT a casino? Omfg what am I doing with my life!? 😂
Hell yeah brother, you know I'm rolling for those knives. Daddy needs to make back the life savings before mommy notices it's all gone.
Asmon completely ignoring the manipulative tactics to bag on doofuses with 0 self control is the prototypical method of diluting the actual point.
Telling people to be more responsible when companies spend billions to literally trick people into doing the opposite is such a lazy and evil answer.
The scales aren't even in this fight, so when you blame the people that are already being victimized you also are evil.
True. At the same time, I remember a bad time in my life and how the moment I 'took responsibility' and started thinking of myself as a free-willed individual I changed behavior. It's both true.
Over the few years of listening to Asmongold do these discussions on many subjects. I've come to a conclusion very shortly of watching. That Asmongold is very articulate and smart as hell. No smoke up his arse or what the kids say being a simp. It's just fact.
yeah...though he often talks with authority on subjects he's clueless about
like 90% of people on the internet, been on Reddit? Perfect example.@@happzy
I go to the casino entirely too much and I agree with Asmongold 100 fucking percent. I made the choice to go and I still make the choice to go. Addiction is real but we have to take in the fact that in the beginning, it was our decision to try it. I can't sit and point the finger at anyone except to myself. Gambling will be around til the end of time and at some point you have to take accountability that it's still a choice you're continually making. It does however feel that addiction is the master puppeteer, and we are the puppets that perform. It's meant to make you feel that way, It makes you feel that it isn't you that is making horrible decisions, but in reality, we ARE the puppet and the puppeteer. Addiction isn't fair and it never will be. Temptation will always be there for any type of addiction. You can't hide from it. It's a rush, it's a feeling of escape and excitement and we chase that feeling until it's further and further from our reach, it requires more and more and more and all logic goes out the window. It's really fucking terrible. It's like you take a potion that says, 1-hour of enjoyment and excitement, but it comes with a 23 hour vulnerability and self-loathing debuff. I know this is slightly different than the topic at hand. But gambling is gambling and it sucks ass all the same.
Jeff and Asmon. The react content that I never knew I needed.
Played CS back in 1999 and forward a bit. Never spent a dime on it.
3:13 is so true and real. I grew up with a father who abused drugs throughout my entire childhood. At one point I was even kidnapped by men to whom my dad owed money. I'm 26, married and get to spend all my money doing things I love. I knew my entire childhood that I would pull myself up and out of the situation I was in and that I'd NEVER touch drugs of any kind.
Damn, i watched my mom be a psycho attacking my dad constantly, she even fired a shotgun off in the house once. They divorced early on but my mom kidnapped me when i was 8. Now at 36 ive never had a girlfriend because i grew up thinking id never make the same mistake my dad did and always avoided women.
I hate when people say addictions are diseases. No a disease is something you get without any control, you chose that addiction. It also takes the blame off the user who is the only one with the power to stop.
I was a drug addict, I chose it. Of course I didn’t choose the hell that followed, everyone is naive to that until they encounter it themselves.
God that drives me crazy, like they just think they get to redefine words - it gets on my nerves when people call obesity a disease too lol
nobody has any self-control anymore, nobody wants to accept responsibility, it's always someone else's fault.
Merica baby
yeah 12 years old with fathers credit cards have no control :D you are funny :D
@@tomino5201What?
I lost a parent to gambling debt leading to un-aliving. This is a very close topic to me. Dont gamble people. Your debts often are left to your family in death in the US as well.
As someone who has gambled before on csgo empire.. Thank you for covering this topic Asmon. Its bad how easy it is to do
there are alot of easy things to do , but you decided to gamble. and i guess its some one else fault ?
@@highsty9898 When did I say it was someone else's fault that I gambled? And how would that even physically be possible? lmfao
You know, there's an old saying that goes like : 'There's no law forbidding youself from shooting your own foot !'
Outstanding video Asmon. Sad people these days need to be taught to held Accountable for their actions. love how you put the guy in the comments in his place.
It's unfortunate that so many people think enabling self-destructive behavior by absolving others of personal responsibility is a compassionate act.
I have no idea why gambling slaps so hard, but it super does have a strong pull. Not to start pulling the lever (metaphorically), but to continue once you start. Theres always the idea of "I could make it all back if I pull out another $X." Also, gambling is a huge part of the culture in some areas of the US too. I don't feel it as much in the touristy gambling areas, but places like Elko NV have slots in even the gas stations and stuff.
because it's the chance of winning more money than you put in for no effort.
They have gambling machines in almost every store in Las Vegas. I manage a grocery store and see people gambling with their carts full of food next to them.
The pull of potentially earning lifetimes of money for zero effort is a hard pull, especially if you are down bad in your life.
I recommend checking out the psychology experiment of skinner boxes.
To oversimplify it, if one knows what the reward is they go for it only when they want said reward. If they don't know the reward for certain then they keep rolling in the hopes to build as much of it as possible, and when they get the reward it's a much bigger dopamine rush.
I seriously recommend checking it out.
The irony of youtube giving me an ad right at the moment of silence part I about lost it.
It is funny watching Asmon laugh about gambling being a waste of money but also dropping racks and racks on gacha games. 😂
Lil different though. You can find a lot of vids about TH-camrs writing off what they spend on games, come tax season, because it's pretty much a "requirement for their business". Also they legit get money sent to them by viewers to spend on games. Alot different from a 9-5er dropping their wages on a game for self entertainment.
he’s also more than comfortable when it comes to wealth, so if he wishes to spend dumb money on games to enhance his experience or stream, it won’t risk him missing a loan payment😆 He’s living in the tier where he got «fuck you money» to do whatever he pleases, and thats the dream for most people ideally
Would you rather gamble for fake knives or fake wahmen?
wait im honestly baffled that asmon didnt know the dollar is worth less than a euro.
i hav ebeen traveling to the united states for over a decade to buy most off my electronics there since its just cheaper.
This is nothing like historical examples of gambling...
This is the first time you can lose everything gambling on a game that CANNOT give you real money if you win.
You pay real money for fake prizes which don't physically exist...so you lose TWICE.
4:05
A person smoking cigarettes on a low income is spending a high portion of thei income on cigarettes AND is damaging their health, likely resulting in the need to pay medical expenses too...
But smokers don't go and spend ALL their monthly income on cigarettes and use them up in a day.
Stop being so deliberately intellectually dishonest.
It's more like giving people unrestricted access to a drug as addictive as heroin but without the lethality... And charging an unregulated price for it.
“It’s complicated” because they’re stuck in the EA lane of excuses for themselves. They openly admit to running away from the regulations and how they put a new label on what they’re doing. The support teams are just given a script, and were probably told that acting on a user’s name would only open them up to more questioning. And the “free handouts” doesn’t exactly help the case in the face of experts in the field testifying for more regulations.
Love your brutal truth in your rant ❤
The thing is that these case spinning sites also make it that its always "near miss". Like, next time it´s yours buddy, you almost had it, the chance is bigger than you think, you have to open one more crate. Ten crates later people realize they are loosers :D
If you gamble your last money and nobody gives you food or money to buy it, you will soon realize that food and water are the biggest addiction.
asmongold will always be a lightning rod for content creation
countries need gambling laws : here in Quebec (canada) it is illegal to bet money on gambling NOT regulated by the governmental company (Loto Quebec) = NO online gambling possible legally. ALL coujntries should implement those and ban all other gamblings not managed by the country itself. PROBLEM SOLVED! Then the gov't must do public service announcement against teh dangers of gambling
love his sarcasm when zack mentioned "he should have spent it instead in alcohol" - love it!
For about 12 years now, every paycheck each month I've bought a single lottery ticket like a little 'cheer-me-up'-ceremony.
Each ticket cost $5, once a month it translates to $720 in deficit waste paper over the years.
My winnings? I won $50 once and felt happy that gas that week got cheap - and I did feel the pull to just cash in another 10 tickets, which I didn't.
The suction of gambling and the extravagant hope like a dream to leave the rat-race behind just from scratching a ticket is hard to ignore.
I've long noticed I'd get addicted instantly if I ever went to a casino site or went gambling for real, I've basically self hypnotized myself to stay away from that shit as far as possible.
Helps that the homeless on my street are accounted for by about half just from gambling - those poor sods remind me about what would most likely happen should I give myself an excuse.
I used to play a lot of CS:GO back in the day and I did gamble my inventory and lost everything (less than like 10$ of skins)
I probably spent more than 100$ in keys, and I felt so stupid I completely stopped.
Eventually stopped playing altogether after reaching Global Elite where you could just not tell a player was skilled or cheating.
Yeah I quit because of hackers too. Valve needs to step up their anti-cheat, then I will return
Go play faceit
When people say that e.g. government should regulate things or things shouldn't be legal I often hear people say "don't blame others" "take responsibility for your actions" etc. etc.
As if the key reason for arguing for regulation is to blame others for ones own actions.
It's not.
*NOONE is actually using the blame on the government, corporations etc., to avoid responsibility*
This is just a strawman.
It's that we can BOTH do what we can about taking responsibility AND blame those who are rightfully to be blamed so their activities can be regulated or banned.
Both help the problem.
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So that there aren't *unnaturally* many opportunities to push and prod people into bad life choices.
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Thank you for not being light on addicts. It is a disease but you cant baby them, they need to hear the harsh truth.
Yes, sadly the best way to help addicts especially drug addicts is to not help them at all. It's the harsh truth. Usually when addicts recover it's because they had the realization that what they are doing is absolutely destroying their life. They need to realize themselves the damage they've done to their life and everyone around them
Yep, got out of addiction only alone, words from family and friends didn't change a thing, it had to come from me
Actually flawed thinking. Sad face. Recovery comes from help and compassion. This Harsh reality bullshit stems from resentment as if addicts get a free pass. Trust me when I say they don’t. Not in the end.
Bro you're 100% the guy to just tell a fat person that they are disgusting and should lose some weight, afterwards thinking you helped that person. That's not going to help anyone. Same thing here, instead of actually helping them you would rather shun them and think you did something. Telling someone they are in a bad place is not going to suddenly make them realize "oh hey, you're right. I've never noticed it myself, thanks for the advice!". Like what are they supposed to do with your "advice"?
Actually sad how quick you take the opposite path to helping these individuals.
@@NimRyo I am a recovering addict myself and know PLENTY of addicts. Half if not more of my friends are dead from drugs. I know 2 people other than myself who used hard drugs and stopped. Both stopped because they went to prison for 5+ years for the crimes they were committing to get drugs. 1. 90% of drug addicts won't stop using drugs, they will die high. 2. Most addicts I know grew up in single parent homes, poor uneducated environments 3.With the lack of community and sense of connection to those around you in our society; breeds self indulgence which is a big cause to addiction today 4. If someone is to get off drugs the only way is for them to want to get off drugs and have almost no other option to get off them, ie prison, court ordered rehab and gain a positive community around them that doesn't use.
I only got off of them because I was tired of being homeless, tired of blaming everyone around me for all the things wrong in my life when it was all my own fault. No one would help me because I would take advantage of their help and be high all the time. A person like that deserves no help. So yes I stand by what I say Addicts deserve to hear the harsh truth. They are responsible for their own actions, They are responsible for them being on drugs. They are the ones responsible to get clean. There's plenty of resources out there now to help addicts so if one wants to get clean they can. There's education about the wiring of an addicts brain and how years of drug abuse has caused a neurotic 'tic' in their brain where they need a fix. But there's enough studies as well that show with enough time it subsides and can be rewired.
Amen!. This man speaks truth. Hes 100% right. I was an addict. I along with everyone else are 100% responsible for our own actions. That doesnt change the fact that people targeting people in this way are scummy and evil. Both can be true at the same time.
The true gigachad admits they have a problem and finds help with their gambling problem instead of hiding it from their support system due to shame.
You can't help someone who doesn't want to be helped.
It’s crazy how much people discount the initial action that starts an addiction. It’s crappy but at the end of day, you put yourself in whatever situations you find yourself in.
This is especially true with conversations I've personally had about hard drug addiction. People act like they were tied up and forced to shoot up. They make their own self loathing everyone else's problem.
a lot of these addicts start as clueless kids often by watching content creators.
Just want to point out that the youre minimizing the impulsivity and psychological affects of addiction. It is VERY difficult to comprehend what dopamine withdrawal feels like when you've produced it a certain way your whole life, and it can be unique to the person, its not a matter of change, its a matter of envirnment, it can affect the way your brain works the rest of your life if you can't catch it quick enough. The best way to explain it, is its like eating. You eat and you eat, and suddenly you're too obese to change, but in this case its your mind. It's a horrible reality for a child to be subjected to.
Never really gambled but I did recently. After gambling so much that I literally gambled my paycheck on dumb CS:GO shit it really hit me. If I was a little younger than I am now I could literally see myself being addicted to it and not be able step away when I did.
Sorry I don't mind people speaking their mind but these things are made to trigger addicted people. I have seen these get togethers with these deplorabele developers. They don't care about any form of ethics as long as they get payed.
These things should be regelated if it's sold to minors gambling should be flat out illegal.
You know there will always be some people that is the worst excuse their is. With this idea of thinking you can make murder legal, drunk driving don't worry about it, smok drink at any go for it.
In the end the government should protect it citizens against big corp.
You can experience a lot of trauma and stress but in the end you control your hands.
Asmon had some real bad takes at the beginning of this video.
He makes the argument that people chose to start smoking or gambling and so we shouldn’t treat them like children who can’t help themselves.
However, that is completely ignoring the fact that people start smoking/gambling while they are still literally children. You can’t just blame children for not being mature enough to make rational choices. Ridiculous.
I'm so glad Everquest 2 taught me how stupid gambling was at age 12/13. I've learned almost every life lesson from MMORPGs.
Actually, the real fault is the people supporting gambling that is making the environment of people who are trying to recover from addiction are the ones responsible for this outcome. You can't say that's not true because it is. So unless these people stop supporting gambling and shut them down then they the ones who fail to support the people who can't handle their addiction...funny...how you say it's their own fault for not stopping their addiction...but ch of bullshit dude!!! No offonse
funny how ironically Asmon defended the entire concept of Gacha games being not a gambling at around 1:06:00.
To a small degree you are lessening the effect. That's because you got to get id'd for cigarettes but gambling pops up in your bedroom at 3 a.m. unexpectedly when you're 11.
This is coming from a parent that had to cancel a credit card I didn't even know they had and I'm pretty tec savvy going all the way to banning certain IP addresses on the router.
If you're a parent and your kid plays video games all day,you failed miserably.
4:20 i think the point here is that people got addicted while still being considered a kid so they ca t make the grown up decision properly
I know this is crazy but for underage kids, what the hell are their parents doing? No way an under 15 year old got that kind of money, it has to be their parents money. Like what do the do? Take a look at a $300 bank statement to a csgo gambling site and just say "oh well that's our billy for ya".
As somebody who was stabbed, killed, revived, raped, and manipulated as a kid, you can 100% learn to overcome shitty circumstances no matter how dire. I think a big part of what held me back for a long time was that yeah, people just automatically count you out as a victim and treat you like one so you stay one
Agreeing with asmon at 3:24 lol
Thank you Pyro the Alpha, very cool!
@@DoomGuy148. lmao I made the name when I was 12 and it stuck please don’t judge 😂 that was before any of the death or shit
@@Madly_Zen whoah wtf happened
@@boad8270 was involved in a car wreck my first day of 8th grade, killed my dad and everyone in the other car, also killed me but they brought me back. After that the stabbing let’s just say somebody close to me couldn’t handle my dads death and threatened to kill themselves if I ever left, then got really drunk and on meds the doctor shouldn’t have given them, then they had a mental snap and stabbed me. As for the other stuff I’d prefer to keep that much private because the rest is my story, that last one is ONLY my story yknow?
4:05
A person smoking cigarettes on a low income is spending a high portion of thei income on cigarettes AND is damaging their health, likely resulting in the need to pay medical expenses too...
But smokers don't go and spend ALL their monthly income on cigarettes and use them up in a day.
Stop being so deliberately intellectually dishonest.
It's more like giving people unrestricted access to a drug as addictive as heroin but without the lethality... And charging an unregulated price for it.