I like the blocky look. It looks like something Robocop or Judge Dredd would ride. I've seen complaints about the reliability but I think HD is going in the right direction with these news 975/1250 bikes
The quickshifter is garbage, the HD flash for it is dangerous and causes engine stalling during downshift, removed mine and soon I hope to remove the Pan America from my garbage permanently, such a pile of hot garbage.
I never thought in a million years that I would ever warm up to be a Harley fan, but I’m sold I think both the Pan Am & especially the Sportster S look amazing.
Don’t understand people who think this bike is ugly. So many other ADVs have a “beak” ( like the GS ) which is far, far uglier. None of them are beauties but this isn’t so bad - especially in black. I could own a black one. Looks good.
Yeah the Harley isn't ugly. It's an awesome looking bike. The English and other people across the pond don't seem to like the front end on the Pan America, but it's clearly just a weird unconscious disdain they have for American things. American people seem to universally like the Pan America. If it was an "Indian" motorcycle, I think everyone would love it, because Indian doesn't have the controversial reputation and stigma of Harley.
Best selling adventure bike in North America by quite a large margin. They completely sold out their 2021 production. Pretty hard to argue with that especially for a first effort in the market segment. I like the look. Only qualms are with reliability. I'm fairly certain that 2022 production will have improved things.
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy (which I am) if I’m buying a big adventure bike, which I might be, I’m getting the Pan America. It’s the only American ADV bike in existence, it’s got an unmistakable, undeniable, look all it’s own, and it’s a Harley Davidson. Come on.
Im stunned by this bike.. A Harley Davidson... REALLY? IT looks like a 13 year old went though an old JC Whitney catalog and bought every motorcycle part, regardless if it fit or not and put it all on this bike... Nothing matches... I can't believe this is a factory look...
The Panam look really grew on me. At first the stylized shark-nose was strange, but now I really like how it looks. I will buy a big ADV next year and HD is currently my top choice (I’m in Europe btw) while I still think about the Multristrada V4S. But HD definitely passed over the GS, that still may be THE best adv but honestly just having something different is attractive.
The looks have a Mad Max vibe for me , it's just the big headlight thats unique looking & it's a high tech light..form following function..there's no such thing as a perfect looking adventure bike
I have a 2022 special and absolutely love it. My BMW sits in the garage now. The Pan America is much more road friendly, much better feel in the corners and feels so much lighter. The only down fall I have with the Pan America is the lack of engagement with the starter on occasions. Great review on your part Thank you.
Would look better without the white front end of a bumper car on it or at least paint it the same colour as the tank, so it doesn't look like some cheap add on.
I enjoy the looks and had a chance to test drive one for two days on mountain roads. I had a blast and would definitely recommend it. My key takeaways are that the engine feels and sounds great, and the comfort is fantastic.
I love my Pam Am Special!!! ...one of the things I really love about the way it looks is that it does NOT have that useless "beak" on the front that several other ADV bikes have.
Good video. Personally I love the looks of the Pan Am. Mainly because I *HATE* the beak look that almost every other ADV bike has. In my book, the Dirt Glide is the best looking ADV on the market.
I for one really adore how the Pan America looks! I really don't like the beaky façade of other adventure motorcycles, but at the end of the day you like what you like, right?
Very fair review, I personally think this is the sexiest big ADV on the market (Desert X wins for midsize and Himalayan wins for small size, IMO). I really disagree with Harley omitting the orange/white/black color way, I really started to associate that color scheme with the model itself, similar to a Kawasaki being the green bike, Ducati being the red bike, etc. I think they should bring it back in 2023. Your thoughts on the new liquid cooled Sportster are a bit of a bummer, hopefully they get that addressed quickly. They’ll eventually release the Bronx (and perhaps a midsize adv…please) with that engine, so that’s gonna need to be a critical focus for the engineers considering how prominent that 900-1000cc class is for those respective size classes across the industry. Overall exciting stuff from the bar and shield, I’d love to have a bit more disposable income to have a PanAm to roadtrip North America on.
I took delivery of my 1250 Special this month and it's epic. I dislike the image and looks of the BMW GS and the Ducati is silly money. The HD is a great alternative and rides like a dream.
The looks have certainly grown on me, to the point where I quite like it now. Seems competitive in most respects and I will be having a closer look when I replace my 1250GS.
This machine looks amazing. I am glad HD did not follow the other manufactures in style, where the others such GS, KTM, AT looks very similar , basically copy each other styling. $20k for the bike like GS, KTM and AT, and these designers could not get creative with styling.
Last year with the Pan Am I thought "meh", but it's grown on me and just Love the looks, comfy reviews, and everything else about it ! KTM, have a tendency to spend a lot of time in the shop around here, if you can find one, same with Triumph, although I am a big Triumph fan !!! Although living in Pennsylvania, USA, I never have the need for a 1200 cc woods ADV.bike, if I did, the Harley would be in my shed !!!
When I walk away from a bike I want to turn round and like what I see, never done that with an adv bike. This will sell and will be a winner for HD 🤞. Love the look of my SportGlide.
No... No... No... If I can not able to repair my bike I will not buy one. I own a 93FXRS LowRider Convertable. STOCK. I can fix my Harley at home. I have very little problems with it VERY little and have done everything shown. It does look cool though and I'm okay with it being water cooled. BUT I KNOW HD BUSINESS MODEL AND NEWER BIKES WHEN THEY GO DOWN ITS EXPENSIVE REPAIRS BILLS BY A CERTIFED TECHNICTION THAT IS NOT A BIKE MECHANIC. Sounds like I might know a few things how the system works.
MCN said they dynoed a stock 2021 Pan America at 145 rear wheel horsepower. WOW! That's pretty close to a first generation Hayabusa. Usually you lose about 18 horsepower at the rear wheel on a chain bike, so the Pan America appears to be making more power than advertised. The crankshaft horsepower is somewhere north of 160 horsepower. Every Harley owner should experience the power of the Pan America.
I think HD did an admirable job putting their own spin on a big adventure. I do wish more manufacturers would do variable valve timing. It’s captured my attention. I currently own a Tiger 900. A middleweight adventure works well for me. But living here in the States. Something to be said about having a solid dealer network!
Honstley I think Harley should stick to what they're (cough* kinda) good at. Low tide touring bikes. They've stepped into the adventure bike space as Johnny come latelys with very little thought for what adventure riders want. It's not as all-round capable as the GS, it's not as rugged and off-road oriented as the KTM. It's a happy medium between the 2 and it's more expensive than both. Basically they've made a Harley Davidson with a higher seat height ground clearance. That's does not make it an adventure bike in my opinion. it's a touring bike for those who are a little taller than the average Harley rider.
if you look at the out the door price on the top model of PA and you look at other options at same level, IMO I would not buy an HD. Doesn't impress me at all. I have been on 2 wheels for 35 years, mope for me. Also, its ugly looking. Thank you for the review. Learned about the bike.
im by no means a harley fan boy. IMO this is the best looking Adventure bike. Im honda fan boy and no matter how much I try I cannot like the Africa Twin.
I really wish it wasn't chain drive... shaft drive is a must.. nobody wants to stop on the road to clean the chain all the time.. i love how it looks.. looks like some post apocalyptic mad max bike
Great review. My 2022 Black on black arrived yesterday. Having had BMW GSA, GS, K1200/1300S, K1600GT, K1600Bet al, the PA has peaked my interest in bikes again.
Well done review sir. . Funny how they only show that machine from the right side. Hear the word "decent" a lot. My advice for people is don't forget to look at it from the port side. If you buy one DO NOT RIDE A FRIENDS GS AFTER. 2 guys we ride with call them the "Almost" bike and regret the purchase and the resale isn't terribly good. I've ridden one and the word "decent" sums it up.
Interesting regarding fuel consumption. On my 21 Pan America, I get 260 miles to a tank touring, and 240 commuting. This is not me trying to be frugal.
I purchased a 2021 model mainly because I got a great trade-in price on my H-D Ultra Limited. I’d love a big Ducati Multistrada, but honestly, I probably couldn’t afford an oil change let alone a full service, coming very close would be a KTM 1290 Super Adventure, probably on the same par as the Ducati but I couldn’t get a good trade-in. Despite being a Brit and my wife riding a Triumph Street Triple, I probably wouldn’t have entertained a big Tiger and even though getting a HOG puts me into a ‘questionable grouping’, there’s no way I could go with a dad BMW GS even though they do set a standard for big Adv bikes. I’m very happy with the Pan America Sport and think H-D has done an amazing job for a 100% brand spanking new model release. There’s really nothing that bothers me about the bike except the way H-D clearly cheaped out on the infotainment system. Why couldn’t they have adopted Android Auto or Apple CarPlay rather than waste money on the half-ass integration using the phone and apps. Strangely I found the H-D Ride Planner worked fine on my Ultra. Finally the looks, I was amused by the Jeep on two wheels comment, yes the Pan Am looks quite industrial and at the end of the day aesthetics are a personal ‘thang’, I think it looks cool and did follow the normal mix of Transformers and Insect front ends that pretty much all other plays choose from. Last two words - ‘Dealership network’; clearly H-D are at an advantage in the US with dealerships on every corner, ok every major city and even some that aren’t major towns, this is a big seller and will certainly help H-D keep a foot holding in the Adv market while they continue to develop more models based on the Revolution Max.
Harley Davidson XR750 Classic & Pan America New Modern, It is real classic for BSA Cafe Racer. Iconic Classic Motorcycle All The Time 1. Harley-Davidson XR-750 2. 1971-1982 YAMAHA DT250 3. Honda Hawk GT 4. SUZUKI PE 400 5. KAWASAKI 250 A1SS
On March 23rd I bought this exact same bike in the US ….long story short…I had use of the bike for 244 miles and it has been in HD Service since April 13 with no fix in sight. Immediately after riding out of the showroom the large TFT display cut off then rebooted, repeatedly and intermittently. After 7 hours trying to find the cause of the display problem…the dealer said they could not find the fault and must call in an expert from HD corporate. That was 10 days ago and no fix in sight. This is my first Harley and likely now it looks like my last Harley….unless the bike is fixed soon it will be Lemon Law time to demand a full refund. Massive Disappointment. Never had an issue like this with my Triumph Tiger 900.
It’s a horrible looking lump..I’ve tried honestly ..also it doesn’t look that premium quality wise either !! looks like poorly matched aftermarket bits bin parts have been thrown at it . I’ve not seen one in the flesh thank the lord and long may it continue ..I honestly don’t get it tho ? I’ll reluctantly concede the side on view for the engine looks quite good ..so how can they ruin it so much ..perhaps designed with a crayon instead of sharp pencils ??
Hopefully they develop a 700-900cc version that weighs under 460lbs or maybe less if possible. These big honkin bikes are not the direction I think the market is asking for. I could be completely wrong of course
I love the PA. On the fence on one. Personally I own a few MCs including 2 HDs and a Super Tenere. Seems alot of folks are love or hate with issues. I like the hydraulic lifters & no valve adjustments, but don't like the chain drive. I don't like being stuck with dealing with HD moco bs and its dealers for parts. Also HD techs are the folks that are not the ones you want looking at the bike when warranty issues arise with these relatively high tech bikes.
when i first started riding, no way would i be interested in a HD. as I get older, i am very interested in getting a HD cruiser. Though I do like the new HDs like this Pan Am, I would still prefer a Euro Adventure bike like the Super Adventure, 1250 GS, etc... On the flip side, I like the BMW R18 but would pick a HD or Indian if I were to go for a cruiser.
Technically, I applaud HD for going there and doing a pretty damned good job of a first attempt at an ADV bike. Stylistically,....erm...let's just say I am not a fan of it. Each to their own and all that, some folks like it. It's not a bike I would ever buy (if I were in the market for a 1200cc ish ADV bike) but there are several great points on this bike. The no-service interval valve clearances, electronic adjustable suspension, TFT dash, engine power and fuel range, etc All really good! Let down by some strange choices like the position of the voltage regulator right behind the front wheel low down so it WILL catch everything thrown up (mud, dirt) chain final drive, but the real killer is how it looks.
Been looking at the options for an ADV bike and had it narrowed to a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer or V4 Rally. Now I'm looking again at HD as the adaptive ride height means my wife will also be able to flat foot it and therefore feel comfortable riding it.
I can't sat I love the looks but I can live with it, seeing as it really is a lovely bike to ride. Also the sound of it is... It just doesn't get me excited. Quite the contrary, it irritates me. What I cannot forgive, and is a dealbreaker for me, is: 1. Battery and rectifier location 2. Kickstand bolted directly to engine.
Really like the luggage.Have they gotten all the bugs out of it at this point?Given all of its technological wizardry, I’d opt for the longest, most comprehensive extended warranty they offer.
I like this, it looks a bit like a Transformer. But for me although they’re a class below the Desert X and Norden look fantastic, are cheaper to buy and run and easier to ride and would get my money.
Mate... as if BMW GS with its stupid beak is a beauty? All adv bikes are ugly, but they are purpose built and functional. No one buys them for their looks.
Ive riddent this and the entire line up of 21 adventure bikes except the MV agusta and KTM. I did not like this bike. The brakes were wooden and you needed to STOMP on it. It was powerful but damn those brakes! The back grab handle is flimsy plastic so if you go to use it to pick the bike up you just broke it. Add to that it feels like dollar store plastic. Lastly for me the screen needs to be adjusted graphically. It was hard to make out information while riding. And I have good young eyes.
It’s awesome👏Although not much of HD fan since they got rid of Buell, the V-rod/w it’s engine and teasing us with the hot looking Bronx. Wish they’d make more cool i.c.e. bikes before the E-⚡️wave kills petrol.
I like the blocky look. It looks like something Robocop or Judge Dredd would ride. I've seen complaints about the reliability but I think HD is going in the right direction with these news 975/1250 bikes
Well said, @LGL! 😀
I love the blocky shape, makes it look rugged like a Jeep or a hummer.
Reliability is the worst with Harley and is why I’m selling my fully custom street bob and buying a tenere 700
@@jonesygirl79 I kinda think so too, about the Jeep type look. My other vehicle is a Jeep TJ.
@@therealcountrybumpkin Get the Honda Transalp 750, it's a much better street bike.
Best looking ADV bike out there. Glad there's a quickshifter now ✌️
The quickshifter is garbage, the HD flash for it is dangerous and causes engine stalling during downshift, removed mine and soon I hope to remove the Pan America from my garbage permanently, such a pile of hot garbage.
I never thought in a million years that I would ever warm up to be a Harley fan, but I’m sold I think both the Pan Am & especially the Sportster S look amazing.
sure shirley surely
Don’t understand people who think this bike is ugly. So many other ADVs have a “beak” ( like the GS ) which is far, far uglier. None of them are beauties but this isn’t so bad - especially in black. I could own a black one. Looks good.
Yeah i like it because it still says harley davidson to me kind of like how porsches and BMWs have their own root ancestral looks
Yeah the Harley isn't ugly. It's an awesome looking bike. The English and other people across the pond don't seem to like the front end on the Pan America, but it's clearly just a weird unconscious disdain they have for American things. American people seem to universally like the Pan America. If it was an "Indian" motorcycle, I think everyone would love it, because Indian doesn't have the controversial reputation and stigma of Harley.
I'm one of those people who absolutely hated this bike when it first came out. Now...I'm wanting to trade in my RG Special and get one!
The quick shifter should be standard equipment on a $20,000 plus motorcycle.
Agreed, but KTM and BMW don't.
Best selling adventure bike in North America by quite a large margin. They completely sold out their 2021 production.
Pretty hard to argue with that especially for a first effort in the market segment.
I like the look. Only qualms are with reliability. I'm fairly certain that 2022 production will have improved things.
At the risk of sounding like a fanboy (which I am) if I’m buying a big adventure bike, which I might be, I’m getting the Pan America. It’s the only American ADV bike in existence, it’s got an unmistakable, undeniable, look all it’s own, and it’s a Harley Davidson. Come on.
Im stunned by this bike.. A Harley Davidson... REALLY? IT looks like a 13 year old went though an old JC Whitney catalog and bought every motorcycle part, regardless if it fit or not and put it all on this bike... Nothing matches... I can't believe this is a factory look...
The Panam look really grew on me. At first the stylized shark-nose was strange, but now I really like how it looks.
I will buy a big ADV next year and HD is currently my top choice (I’m in Europe btw) while I still think about the Multristrada V4S.
But HD definitely passed over the GS, that still may be THE best adv but honestly just having something different is attractive.
eye doctor, immediatelly. 😉
@@szeriman13 Got Lasik 5 years ago am good thanks 😎
@@thierryfaquet7405 then everything is ok.
The looks have a Mad Max vibe for me , it's just the big headlight thats unique looking & it's a high tech light..form following function..there's no such thing as a perfect looking adventure bike
I like that Harley did their own thing with the looks. Looks good in my opinion.
I have a 2022 special and absolutely love it. My BMW sits in the garage now. The Pan America is much more road friendly, much better feel in the corners and feels so much lighter. The only down fall I have with the Pan America is the lack of engagement with the starter on occasions. Great review on your part Thank you.
Would look better without the white front end of a bumper car on it or at least paint it the same colour as the tank, so it doesn't look like some cheap add on.
I enjoy the looks and had a chance to test drive one for two days on mountain roads. I had a blast and would definitely recommend it.
My key takeaways are that the engine feels and sounds great, and the comfort is fantastic.
I love my Pam Am Special!!! ...one of the things I really love about the way it looks is that it does NOT have that useless "beak" on the front that several other ADV bikes have.
nah... when every adventure bike wanted to be a GS, i'm glad hd did this. its so ugly it looks good.
Good video. Personally I love the looks of the Pan Am. Mainly because I *HATE* the beak look that almost every other ADV bike has. In my book, the Dirt Glide is the best looking ADV on the market.
Another 12-minute video of a Harley Davidson WITHOUT any engine sounds. The main feature as you said is the ENGINE let us hear it.
I for one really adore how the Pan America looks! I really don't like the beaky façade of other adventure motorcycles, but at the end of the day you like what you like, right?
Engine external design is an art actually... ❤️
Very fair review, I personally think this is the sexiest big ADV on the market (Desert X wins for midsize and Himalayan wins for small size, IMO).
I really disagree with Harley omitting the orange/white/black color way, I really started to associate that color scheme with the model itself, similar to a Kawasaki being the green bike, Ducati being the red bike, etc. I think they should bring it back in 2023.
Your thoughts on the new liquid cooled Sportster are a bit of a bummer, hopefully they get that addressed quickly. They’ll eventually release the Bronx (and perhaps a midsize adv…please) with that engine, so that’s gonna need to be a critical focus for the engineers considering how prominent that 900-1000cc class is for those respective size classes across the industry.
Overall exciting stuff from the bar and shield, I’d love to have a bit more disposable income to have a PanAm to roadtrip North America on.
I took delivery of my 1250 Special this month and it's epic. I dislike the image and looks of the BMW GS and the Ducati is silly money. The HD is a great alternative and rides like a dream.
I just traded my 2019 road glide for a new 1250s and I love it. A lot lighter and for me a lot of fun to ride.
The looks have certainly grown on me, to the point where I quite like it now. Seems competitive in most respects and I will be having a closer look when I replace my 1250GS.
Nice one Bob !
Not for me I'm afraid. It looks like it was designed by 10 teams of engineers that never spoke to each other. 😒
Harley, see the brakes on the front of this bike? Pop these on the new Sportster. Go 'head, just do it. Would it hurt sales?
I thought this was really ugly when it first launched…my thoughts haven’t changed!🤮
My thoughts exactly...about your BMW R-18. 🤮🤮
This machine looks amazing. I am glad HD did not follow the other manufactures in style, where the others such GS, KTM, AT looks very similar , basically copy each other styling. $20k for the bike like GS, KTM and AT, and these designers could not get creative with styling.
This may end up being my first HD.
The technical cause you ask... The Variable Valve Timing adjusting. You don't remember when Honda's V-Tec came out? Same thing.
Last year with the Pan Am I thought "meh", but it's grown on me and just Love the looks, comfy reviews, and everything else about it ! KTM, have a tendency to spend a lot of time in the shop around here, if you can find one, same with Triumph, although I am a big Triumph fan !!!
Although living in Pennsylvania, USA, I never have the need for a 1200 cc woods ADV.bike, if I did, the Harley would be in my shed !!!
Saw a couple of them in the flesh and I must say....not bad at all!
Thank you mr Bob!
The front looks like a hoover . But I strangly like it !
Greatings from Belgium . Ride safe Bob . Good review sir!
I wanna turn this into a sport tourer, 17’s front and rear, lower tighter bars, sticky rubber
When I walk away from a bike I want to turn round and like what I see, never done that with an adv bike. This will sell and will be a winner for HD 🤞. Love the look of my SportGlide.
No... No... No... If I can not able to repair my bike I will not buy one. I own a 93FXRS LowRider Convertable. STOCK. I can fix my Harley at home. I have very little problems with it VERY little and have done everything shown. It does look cool though and I'm okay with it being water cooled. BUT I KNOW HD BUSINESS MODEL AND NEWER BIKES WHEN THEY GO DOWN ITS EXPENSIVE REPAIRS BILLS BY A CERTIFED TECHNICTION THAT IS NOT A BIKE MECHANIC.
Sounds like I might know a few things how the system works.
One giant leap for HD,. Great vidi Bob[✓]
MCN said they dynoed a stock 2021 Pan America at 145 rear wheel horsepower. WOW! That's pretty close to a first generation Hayabusa. Usually you lose about 18 horsepower at the rear wheel on a chain bike, so the Pan America appears to be making more power than advertised. The crankshaft horsepower is somewhere north of 160 horsepower. Every Harley owner should experience the power of the Pan America.
It has a great silhouette IMO. Probably the best of the lot. I really like it in black with the spoked wheels!
I think HD did an admirable job putting their own spin on a big adventure. I do wish more manufacturers would do variable valve timing. It’s captured my attention. I currently own a Tiger 900. A middleweight adventure works well for me. But living here in the States. Something to be said about having a solid dealer network!
Honstley I think Harley should stick to what they're (cough* kinda) good at. Low tide touring bikes. They've stepped into the adventure bike space as Johnny come latelys with very little thought for what adventure riders want.
It's not as all-round capable as the GS, it's not as rugged and off-road oriented as the KTM.
It's a happy medium between the 2 and it's more expensive than both.
Basically they've made a Harley Davidson with a higher seat height ground clearance. That's does not make it an adventure bike in my opinion. it's a touring bike for those who are a little taller than the average Harley rider.
if you look at the out the door price on the top model of PA and you look at other options at same level, IMO I would not buy an HD. Doesn't impress me at all. I have been on 2 wheels for 35 years, mope for me. Also, its ugly looking. Thank you for the review. Learned about the bike.
It's a bit too Judge Dredd! Harley Davidson could easily go more towards the Af Twin or Rally Pro without compromising their schtick
Awful looking bike...not to sure about its quality too. Typical US vehicle big and ugly.
Wow, makes a reveiw of a motorcycle but never starts it.
im by no means a harley fan boy. IMO this is the best looking Adventure bike. Im honda fan boy and no matter how much I try I cannot like the Africa Twin.
I rode one off-road at the ABR festival and loved it. My concern is reliability as the reports so far haven’t been good.
I really wish it wasn't chain drive... shaft drive is a must.. nobody wants to stop on the road to clean the chain all the time.. i love how it looks.. looks like some post apocalyptic mad max bike
Sorry Bob it's a No from me. Lego bike. A GS BMW is ugly but that is just rood.
I can't help but think the revolution max engine looks fake. Like, from the side it looks like a molded plastic cover made to look like an engine
all these channels say nothing but praise for the products they review..who do they cater to? Us or industry?
Great review. My 2022 Black on black arrived yesterday. Having had BMW GSA, GS, K1200/1300S, K1600GT, K1600Bet al, the PA has peaked my interest in bikes again.
What can you tell us 1 year later ??
It’s a great looking bike , I’m still waiting for mine to arrive. Trading my low rider s for the special. Hopefully will get it soon.
I'm thinking of trading my street Bob for it
I originally hated the look of this bike. Looks a bit like a vacuum cleaner from the 80’s but it’s definitely grown on me and I want one now.
It's a good entry - but no GS..will push everyone in the Adventure category...and BMW will need to up their game next year...but still no GS
Looks more like something from the USSR than the USA
Well done review sir. . Funny how they only show that machine from the right side. Hear the word "decent" a lot. My advice for people is don't forget to look at it from the port side. If you buy one DO NOT RIDE A FRIENDS GS AFTER. 2 guys we ride with call them the "Almost" bike and regret the purchase and the resale isn't terribly good. I've ridden one and the word "decent" sums it up.
I love the way it looks. Beefy and no front feather looking fender
Interesting regarding fuel consumption.
On my 21 Pan America, I get 260 miles to a tank touring, and 240 commuting.
This is not me trying to be frugal.
I purchased a 2021 model mainly because I got a great trade-in price on my H-D Ultra Limited. I’d love a big Ducati Multistrada, but honestly, I probably couldn’t afford an oil change let alone a full service, coming very close would be a KTM 1290 Super Adventure, probably on the same par as the Ducati but I couldn’t get a good trade-in. Despite being a Brit and my wife riding a Triumph Street Triple, I probably wouldn’t have entertained a big Tiger and even though getting a HOG puts me into a ‘questionable grouping’, there’s no way I could go with a dad BMW GS even though they do set a standard for big Adv bikes.
I’m very happy with the Pan America Sport and think H-D has done an amazing job for a 100% brand spanking new model release. There’s really nothing that bothers me about the bike except the way H-D clearly cheaped out on the infotainment system. Why couldn’t they have adopted Android Auto or Apple CarPlay rather than waste money on the half-ass integration using the phone and apps. Strangely I found the H-D Ride Planner worked fine on my Ultra. Finally the looks, I was amused by the Jeep on two wheels comment, yes the Pan Am looks quite industrial and at the end of the day aesthetics are a personal ‘thang’, I think it looks cool and did follow the normal mix of Transformers and Insect front ends that pretty much all other plays choose from.
Last two words - ‘Dealership network’; clearly H-D are at an advantage in the US with dealerships on every corner, ok every major city and even some that aren’t major towns, this is a big seller and will certainly help H-D keep a foot holding in the Adv market while they continue to develop more models based on the Revolution Max.
Seriously - that bike is ugly AF!
For the price it should have an electric screen.
Harley Davidson XR750 Classic & Pan America New Modern, It is real classic for BSA Cafe Racer.
Iconic Classic Motorcycle All The Time
1. Harley-Davidson XR-750
2. 1971-1982 YAMAHA DT250
3. Honda Hawk GT
4. SUZUKI PE 400
5. KAWASAKI 250 A1SS
On March 23rd I bought this exact same bike in the US ….long story short…I had use of the bike for 244 miles and it has been in HD Service since April 13 with no fix in sight. Immediately after riding out of the showroom the large TFT display cut off then rebooted, repeatedly and intermittently. After 7 hours trying to find the cause of the display problem…the dealer said they could not find the fault and must call in an expert from HD corporate. That was 10 days ago and no fix in sight. This is my first Harley and likely now it looks like my last Harley….unless the bike is fixed soon it will be Lemon Law time to demand a full refund. Massive Disappointment. Never had an issue like this with my Triumph Tiger 900.
I think it's going to do most all anyone needs, that isn't a big off road rider used to a 700-900 built for 50/50 type riding. 👍
It’s a horrible looking lump..I’ve tried honestly ..also it doesn’t look that premium quality wise either !! looks like poorly matched aftermarket bits bin parts have been thrown at it . I’ve not seen one in the flesh thank the lord and long may it continue ..I honestly don’t get it tho ? I’ll reluctantly concede the side on view for the engine looks quite good ..so how can they ruin it so much ..perhaps designed with a crayon instead of sharp pencils ??
Harley should put the front fender on like the R1200GS, the styling is not optimal right know.
Hopefully they develop a 700-900cc version that weighs under 460lbs or maybe less if possible. These big honkin bikes are not the direction I think the market is asking for. I could be completely wrong of course
I love the PA. On the fence on one. Personally I own a few MCs including 2 HDs and a Super Tenere. Seems alot of folks are love or hate with issues. I like the hydraulic lifters & no valve adjustments, but don't like the chain drive. I don't like being stuck with dealing with HD moco bs and its dealers for parts. Also HD techs are the folks that are not the ones you want looking at the bike when warranty issues arise with these relatively high tech bikes.
Does Harley Davidson allow you to photograph the left side of the bike and engine EVER? Odd!
I'm not a harley fan or a adventure bike fan but there's something about this bike that floats my boat.
That is one fugly bike.
when i first started riding, no way would i be interested in a HD. as I get older, i am very interested in getting a HD cruiser. Though I do like the new HDs like this Pan Am, I would still prefer a Euro Adventure bike like the Super Adventure, 1250 GS, etc... On the flip side, I like the BMW R18 but would pick a HD or Indian if I were to go for a cruiser.
Technically, I applaud HD for going there and doing a pretty damned good job of a first attempt at an ADV bike. Stylistically,....erm...let's just say I am not a fan of it. Each to their own and all that, some folks like it. It's not a bike I would ever buy (if I were in the market for a 1200cc ish ADV bike) but there are several great points on this bike. The no-service interval valve clearances, electronic adjustable suspension, TFT dash, engine power and fuel range, etc All really good! Let down by some strange choices like the position of the voltage regulator right behind the front wheel low down so it WILL catch everything thrown up (mud, dirt) chain final drive, but the real killer is how it looks.
I like it and if I had the money I'd get one
Been looking at the options for an ADV bike and had it narrowed to a Tiger 1200 Rally Explorer or V4 Rally. Now I'm looking again at HD as the adaptive ride height means my wife will also be able to flat foot it and therefore feel comfortable riding it.
I can't sat I love the looks but I can live with it, seeing as it really is a lovely bike to ride.
Also the sound of it is... It just doesn't get me excited.
Quite the contrary, it irritates me.
What I cannot forgive, and is a dealbreaker for me, is:
1. Battery and rectifier location
2. Kickstand bolted directly to engine.
Really like the luggage.Have they gotten all the bugs out of it at this point?Given all of its technological wizardry, I’d opt for the longest, most comprehensive extended warranty they offer.
I hate Harleys I’m a Triumph guy but Harley did pretty damn good with this bike. First good bike they built
Have heard the review from MCN . They use the bike for 6 month and thought this is one of the most unreliable motorcycles of all times.
I like slim adventure bikes. Really looking forward to the desert x and 660 tuareg! These 1200 bikes are just way too big.
Harley just can't let that "fatty" body style go. The brand suffers as a result.
Suffers? The Pan Am is the best selling ADV in the US
Laced wheels or not and why?
I like this, it looks a bit like a Transformer. But for me although they’re a class below the Desert X and Norden look fantastic, are cheaper to buy and run and easier to ride and would get my money.
Another nice video, Motobob! Can you also share the link to the intro music 🎵 pls
That seat hight trick opens up the big adventure bike market to so many, wouldn't be amazed if we don't see that idea copied by others
Simply horrific
Wow not a thing wrong with this bike going to run out and get one based on your review……. No
I like it! I love that it has a front ferring that resembles a Road Glide.
Beautiful bike! But long term test showed to be very unreliable
Nope. I haven’t yet come around to the looks yet. It has the looks that only a mother could love and presumably, the designers
I love it 😎
I actually really like it
This bike looks SO MUCH BETTER in person
it's the same one jason momoa rides in fast x and that thing was 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥 🔥
Mate... as if BMW GS with its stupid beak is a beauty? All adv bikes are ugly, but they are purpose built and functional. No one buys them for their looks.
Orange was the best...
Is the paint coming off on the right hand mirror bracket?
Ive riddent this and the entire line up of 21 adventure bikes except the MV agusta and KTM. I did not like this bike. The brakes were wooden and you needed to STOMP on it. It was powerful but damn those brakes! The back grab handle is flimsy plastic so if you go to use it to pick the bike up you just broke it. Add to that it feels like dollar store plastic. Lastly for me the screen needs to be adjusted graphically. It was hard to make out information while riding. And I have good young eyes.
OMG and the front wind screen was criminal in its action. BAH!
demo? lol 😂😂😂😂 good one
I always liked the look. Looks agressive and unique to the others in this category of bikes. :)
Looked a nice bike until I saw the front view.
Hope fully next edition of it have a 30 litre tank
It’s awesome👏Although not much of HD fan since they got rid of Buell, the V-rod/w it’s engine and teasing us with the hot looking Bronx. Wish they’d make more cool i.c.e. bikes before the E-⚡️wave kills petrol.
With a shortage of Lithium for Batteries I'll be dead before that happens,and I think that Bronx bike might be coming.