Best cheap brake I ever used is the aliexpress iiiPro iv4r. I swapped the pads with hope V4 full metallic pads and the brake is as awesome as my M8120 XT. Codes are also cheap now on ebay and been using that for years.
Very nice video man! Your last few videos are in another stratosphere in terms of quality and production! Keep it up I love the engineering background you bring 🔥
@ I know you don't want any $$ for this which is very noble and respectful I hear ya! But these reviews, with the quality you bring have to be time consuming. There is NO SHAME in being compensated for good work (such as this). I would gladly subscribe if you had a paid channel or a patreon or whatever (and I cannot be the only one). Please reconsider! Much ❤️ from Washington state!
I appreciate that! These videos do indeed take tens of hours to complete. There appears to be some level of interest for a Patreon style thing, so I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of perusing something like that soon. Until then, if you know of anybody who needs dog gear... 😁
136 pounds, had to check. And that is light. I thought I was like hovering in and below 160, which is about 72 kg. But on to the point, stellar review, and I know I will never own a pair of those. Unless maybe Eric loaned them to me as well I guess he’d have to give them to me. Thanks again for the awesome unbiased review and I can’t wait to see the next one
Love this series! Looking forward to getting that competition table filled out, it's a great resource for researching upgrades. Are you one day thinking of doing a similar type of thing with other components ine day?
@DaleStone 😂, don't push yourself to hard. I think we can all agree we'd rather keep the sparse high quality content than sacrificing the work you do for more content.
REALLY good video! I really appreciate a good component review. Some of the videos and reviews out there don't offer the comparisons that you made, which is very much appreciated since your latest videos have been reviewing the latest brakes out there. Thank you!
I like how a trademark of smart and efficient people is talking quite fast because you want to communicate as effectively as possible and to be honest talking is quite a burdain. It feels like your brain is always on the next thought and your mouth has a hard time keeping up if the output is to still be understandable haha. Great review, feels good to be from Europe for once!
cant say enough positive things about how you pace and produce your reviews. normally review videos do not keep the audience engaged what so ever but I can guarantee to sit through this with full attention. looking forwards to the new lewis brake review
"If I had a nickel for every time IMBY had blead a set of Maximas in the month prior to my testing, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice." -D. Stone
After having ridden both Maven and Maxima I would agree that Maxima may have more power but the Maven gives harder bite with 80% of the power. Along with being 1/4 the price I feel like nobody actually needs anymore power than Maven. But if I was looking for something very premium Maximas are at the top of my list.
I agree that the Mavens have a harder bite than the Maximas. On the showroom floor that may be a pro, but on the trails I believe that to be a con (due to reduced modulation, especially when combined with a potentially wandering bite point). It's like how mattress stores let you lie on the softest beds, when a firmer bed would actually suit your sleeping needs much better (in the form of support, analogous to modulation). Definitely agreed that nobody needs more power, which is why I focus on fatigue. 🙂
@@TheMTBRider96 it's so weight/skill/terrain dependent that I have a tough time recommending either option without knowing more. Next weekend's video will be an in depth comparison between the two options!
Also, regarding the hose diameter, Trickstuff Maxima are able to be fitted with the 5mm kevlar hose the Direttissima use, so they can clear all internally routed frames. The Maxima caliper loves oil volume, so there may be a very slight decrease in performance going from the 6mm hose to the 5mm hose. But, this is completely doable and you can order your Maxima that way.
A few online retailers list the Kevlar hose at 5.2mm, so although it is much better for internal routing, there would be no guarantee that it is compatible with all internally routed frames that are designed around 5.0mm. The bigger the gap as-designed, the more opportunities there are for rattling, so many are very very close! 🙂
Dear Dale. Your riding skills are as great but just as impressive is listening to your voice narrate component reviews. Sincerely, happy subscriber. PS Thanks for knowing your shit and your honest and unbiased feedback.
TRP Trails. You have to review them. I love them and honestly would be hard pressed to even want to try other brakes. Also, I think there is another plus for expensive brakes (assuming they have a history behind them): If you bought them as "forever" brakes, i.e. the last brakes you will every buy.
@@DaleStone They come with 3 different pads on each side in the package being their green race pads (pre-isntalled), a set of ebike pads (purple) and some standard pads (red). So essentially you have 4 sets of replacement pads to the preinstalled ones, if you purchase front and rear... like who wouldn't.. but still 🤣
Since you mentioned that you might prefer the Direttissima as it may have better low-end modulation - it doesn´t. I have the Maxima on my bike and the Direttissima on my wife's rig. The Direttissima is incredibly on/off for me with almost no dead stroke. I don't like it too much. But given we have the older C41 calipers, I hear that might have changed a bit with the newer C42. The Maxima with its comparably long stroke until full power I find very nice to modulate. That being sad, the dead stroke at times feels a bit too much. I will do a full bleed this winter and overfill a little to try and reduce that. Thanks for the review and spreading the word about these cool products!
Super interesting review as always! And its funny to see that the only "negatives" with the Maximas, is that the Intend brakes exist. These have been "THE" brake to get if you wanted the absolutely best brake, for a long time. But it seems like Intend really picked up the ball on the parts that are somewhat negative for the maximas (bleeding, lever feel) - But are maybe 10% ish less powerful? As an owner of intend brakes myself, I have always been curious if the grass is greener on the Trickstuff side - But it seems like its pretty on par! I could never wish for anything more powerful, and the lever feel/bleed process of the Intends far outweigh anything else that trickstuff offers as of now! For my XC bike on the other hand, I might want to get a set of Piccolas, or the new brakes Intend are teasing... PS - I love that your channel now has become the official unoficcial brake tester channel - Something that has really been lacking in the MTB space. I look forward to seeing you test more! (Even though i'll probably never get rid of my intends :D)
I hope to have a dedicated Trinity vs Maxima comparison video out next weekend. You definitely have the correct assumptions here, and I will also not be parting with mine any time soon! 🙂
Another great review and luckily for me I can't afford these so it makes the decision and the fact that I ride trails in Ontario that they wouldn't make sense for so much easier to not buy LOL. But I did enjoy the review a lot and the brake tests in general. Well done!
@@DaleStone LOL, I'm over-braked, my Optic came with MT420, metallic pads 203/180 and I switched the levers to the 6100 ones. I don't have stopping problems here 🤣
I got a pair of used hope t4 v4, and I believe they would be a fair comparison with the maxima, extremely powerful, very light lever feel, not difficult to have them dialled but maybe not as easy as the maxima, more adjustability, a lot cheaper. I changed from sram code r, couldn’t be happier.
No doubt I'd prefer these over Mavens but not at the current price difference. That being said my Mavens have been really great so far. The wandering bite point still exists but is greatly reduced after following proper bleeding instructions (shout out to Aaron Pelttari) and I haven't encountered any other commonly mentioned problems. The lever is indeed quite firm. Far from ideal but in reality it didn't bother me on the trail. Switching from Saints I have way less fatigue with them because they ramp up quicker. This difference may or may not be due to the fact that I'm closer to 100kg.
I've had the Trickstuff Maxima brakes before and you touched on all the things I remember. Very difficult to bleed with a weird operation of tilting up the lever, and a slippery lever blade. Now that I live in Bentonville, I can't imagine riding Trickstuff brakes when its wet or cold. I released a TRP DHR brake video today and my first impressions were very poor. Good feel, but down on power with the stock resin brake pads.
It is absurdly close. I had to actually find a different brake mount adapter for the fork too, since my Intend one was not compatible. Should have mentioned that in the video actually... 🙃
Really looking forward to the comparison with Lewis and Hope, and the eventual roast of the fastener choice on the Gustav Pro! I see you've pretty much standardised on SRAM HS2 rotors, I would also consider standardising the pad compound, perhaps Galfer or Kool-Stop?
It's very difficult to standardize pad compound since some brands have proprietary brake pad shapes, and I don't think that one aftermarket brand is able to cover all of them with a quality lineup. In general I try to stick with what was designed but sometimes my budget requires otherwise, haha.
Curios to see you review the formula cura 4 Just ordered a bike with a pair of formula cura 4 with rgtec lever upgrade, 220 rotors and galfer green pads; waiting for it to be delivered; thinking these are the only brakes (in this configuration) that come close to the trickstuff maxima and beat any other brake on the market. Can't wait to try them out
The lever slop in the cura lever is ridiculous...it uses a hard plastic bush so replace the levers with the rg levers which have bearings and zero play. The cura 4 phelonic pistons are also a pita so get yourself some cotton buds and clean around the seal area regularly
Regarding Price: Every Trickstuff ist the most expensive brake on the market except for Trickstuff. Piccola, Picolla HD, Direttissima go all for 1100€, the Maxima for 1300€. The Direttissima and Piccola HD (I own both) go with the 4 Piston SRAM standard, thats why I use them on my touring bikes. This way I can find replacements more easily. Last time I have been to the US I had trouble finding replacements for a Magura MT4. By a coincidence I just finished the mounting of a Direttissima 3 hours prior to your video. My old brake broke down and I had one scheduled to be mounted some time in the future.
@@DaleStone It sure is convenient. Also the other way around. I actually decided to buy Trickstuff brakes because I like their brake pads, not the performance version but the standard version. I went through too many brake pads before I switched. Now I live in a flat part of the country so it doesn't matter as much. Great review of the Maximas btw.
Really good video! I'm waiting for the Hope Tech 4 review. Currently running E4 brakes and I love the on-trail feel. I have had some misadventures however, including a warranty claim. One thing that really bothers me is the noise the stock pads make. I tried trickstuff power+ pads and it did get a lot better.
Love my Maxima over the Intend Trinity. As a previously SRAM user, I personally prefer the softer bite point feel of the Maxima. I think someone who prefers Shimano style solid bite point would love the Trinity instead. Martha Creek T to B is so much more enjoyable with the Maximas haha.
@@DaleStone Just like you mentioned in your video, these boutique brakes really hold their value. Used them for a season and sold for $100 CAD less. Pretty incredible depreciation regardless of the bike market state.
The Maxima have been my favorite brake to date. Next in line favorites are the Trickstuff Direttissima and then Hope T4 V4. I have Direttissima on a Sentinel and my Maxima on the Spire. I have a set of Radic Kaha i've yet to try, high expectations for those. You do in fact get what you pay for, especially in brakes. I do miss Sram's Bleeding Edge system, good thing Radic incorporated that in their caliper. But Trickstuff bleed very easy, a lot like Shimano. The Hope T4 V4 have immense power, but the free stroke and pad contact was a bit of let down. I had to re-center the pad contact quite a few times with the V4 caliper, it would influence the bite point at times.
Regarding hope, do you mean while the pads are wearing down? About free stroke and contact point what was a let down? Curious to know what you think about the Kahas once you try them
@@TheMTBRider96 From new. The Hope E4 and V4 pistons do not all stroke simultaneously, it's customary to require a flathead screwdriver, and with the pads installed and rotor in the channel, engage the brakes and pay attention to which bank of pistons contacts the rotor first. I've ran 4 sets of T4 V4 on 4 different bikes and had to do this process multiple times on each bike. With the edge of the screwdriver, and modulating the lever, you have to apply pressure to the pad backing plate and hold back the bank of pistons that is engaging further first, and slowly work the pads out until both left and right banks engage the rotor simultaneously. if you don't do this, you will have a "mushy" brake feel, as the rotor is being pushed to one side much further due to one bank of pistons engaging the rotor first. Once this is dialed in, they are fantastic brakes. But this is required after installing new pads and each bleed. I've never had to do this on any of my Trickstuff brakes (5 so far; 2 Maxima, 2 Direttissima and 1 Piccola). Trickstuff machines the oil galley's in a way that oil is distributed to each piston at the exact same volume every cycle so you get equal contact on both banks no matter what. Regarding the T4 V4 free stroke and bite point, you can dial in the bite point to help engage the rotor sooner and adjust the reach. But neither of those adjustments helped the V4 have more of a "modulated" feel. Once you engaged the rotor, there was not that much room to feather the brakes. They are immensely powerful, but there is just a zone where nothing happens and the lever was floppy and then BAM, you are really stopping. The V4 is not a great all-around brake, even at my 220 lb rider weight. I would suggest 98% of all riders go for the E4. The Maxima on the other hand feel's a lot like the Direttissima, retaining a fantastic lever feel and frankly no need for a bite point adjust. It really is that perfect of a brake. For me and my riding, 99.9% of the time the Direttissima is enough. I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I will say "gee I wish I had my Maxima's." For most riders, I agree with Dale, the Maxima is absolute overkill. But hey, they work fantastic on the single track too! And they look f'ing gorgeous. LOL
Haha I feel you with the 62kg weight, I've been 62-64kg for years now, and sticky forks are annoying. I like to have the most supple tyres I can find too.
Certainly not budget but would be interested in the feel differences in your perspective between Hope brakes with mineral oil vs DOT oil, see if perceived feel between SRAM and Shimano stuff is due to oil or actual mechanics of the brake design
i think the maxima is the product you get when just developing based on specs disregarding any manufacturing or market constraints. It was just developed to be the strongest brake and they succeeded. Obviously to the disadvantage of price and availability.
@ Perhaps a short review video before they release the new version? To see how they stack up to the rest, especially since TRP is rated quite highly by many. I myself ditched them though as my short fingerlings didn't work with the long lever throw. Looking forward to the new brakes however - have you seen the photos?
The time investment for any amount of content is pretty high (buying, installing, setting up, bedding in, etc), so it would be an all or nothing kind of thing. Maybe somebody has a set locally installed and I could just borrow their bike... Dave... 👀
@@DaleStone Dale, you should invite your large friend vancan to help you get some input on the fatigue / power / weight thing, if that's logistically possible for you. Many of us watching these reviews are probably larger people who are finding current brakes too weak.
I always try to get the input of heavier riders whenever possible, even when it's only anecdotal evidence online. You should convince him to do brake reviews at the same time as me! 😉
I don’t think it was a question that they’re not great value, most super high end things aren’t. But for ambitios people with the cash to back it up it makes perfect sense IMO.
My problem is heat build up.im a heavy guy on a heavy ebike.just put on 220mm vented hope discs front and back.and use a very expensive brake fluid to get a claimed extra 20c.a diet would help tbh !
Hey from germany. Love your videos. Currently running the Maximas on my orbea rallon. I am quite heavy and love them. Which cable clamps do you use here? looks like they are a srew in option. Do you have a name or link ? big thanks and keep up the good work 💪🏽
Hey bud! Awsome review! Love it! I do have a question, but about wheels/spokes! I know you’ve made a review some time ago about bird spokes! Are you still running those spokes? How have they held up to all the riding u have been doing on them. Much service required? Are they up for hard impacts days on end or are they more ment for xc/trail riding more then enduro/downhill? Thanks in advance and keep it up bud!
tbh I think adjustability appart from lever reach is completly unnecessary on a well designed Brake. If one designes a Brake with good leverage ratio and bitepoint like Intend has done it with the Trinity for example, A adjustment for these could make it worse. therefore I think the adjustability rating is questionable I would replace it with a rating that describes if a user can find the perfect setup/adjustment and how easy/hard it is to find the perfect setup. Anyway, Great review, your brake reviews are a becoming one of the best sources for information on MTB brakes.
It's a good point for sure and although I agree to an extent here, you might be surprised at the extreme range of setups that people prefer to run around here. The range is so wide that built in adjustments are almost required in order to cover the majority of rider's needs. Adjustability also covers things like leverage ratio adjustments, shifter compatibility, bar clamp design, brake pad standard compatibility (and aftermarket brand availability). ...I think I need to make a video that explains this scale in more detail perhaps, haha. 🙂
I got hope 4 with vented 220 front and back.found a race fluid to get an extra 20’c .im 100kg also on a heavy ebike i keep cooking them especially on hot days .im yet to really test the new rotors fully.i think a lot of hope owners aren’t getting 100pc from them because off bleeding is a @@@@@@.
I run the V4s with the TRP rotors. Best brakes I’ve ever used by far!! I’m thinking of getting the vented rotors but I’m not sure they’re necessary the brakes are already so good!!!
You list states the Hope Tech 4 V4's are $930 for a set? Even if that's Canadian $ that's a pretty massive markup. I can buy and have bought a set of those for something like $620 Canadian from Germany and that's pretty much the price most German online shops sell them for that I've seen. Is that the actual price of hopes in Canada? Edit: Really looking forward to your test of the Hope's!:)
That is indeed the official listed Canadian retail price for a set of NON-braided V4s. I agree that they can probably be found cheaper online at that price though, haha
@ sorry mate no! 😃But if I could maybe inherit some of your MTB skills then that would be a massive help …. then who knows.🤷🏼. I’m your 100 kg guy and bought my first set off kickstarter. Once you have been Maximad you don’t want anything else. Although to be fair the Hope V4 on my e-bike are also superb. Greeting to you from a wet and miserable Uk. Keep up the good work.👊
@@DaleStoneUnderstandable. After riding Maximas for 3 years I ordered a set of Kahas. They’re yet to arrive but would seem to fix all the gripes I had with the Trickstuffs which was mostly the lack bite point adjustment. I even went and installed the bite point adjuster from lewis brakes but that still didn’t do it for me.
Was waiting for this review - great work, thank you! I own a pair of Maximas and they are definitely the best brakes I ever had in my fingers. As for the very high price: you can think of it like very expensive watch - it will live longer than any other brake, and you will probably mount them on your next bike and then the next as well. 1300€ divided by 3 makes about 430€, then you are at the same point as if you would buy any other high quality brake on the market, three times (for three bikes). And you still have the best brake. So that's a big win for me 🙂
Can we expect some other reviews (eg Shimano XT/slx, Magura)? Any chance trp brakes get thrown into the mix? (There's so many glowing anecdotal reports of them, but I've yet to see a detailed, systematic breakdown of them like yours)
Beauty and true cost value is always in the performance . Would you pick a Dumvee over a Unimog ? This engineer says go with proven reliable service friendly performance .
I'm not sure I follow. Product performance is scored independent of aesthetics as it can be measured with a blindfold, or in a black box. We share similar criteria otherwise.
Thank you for your nicce comparrison videos. Are you planing on doing the TRP DH brakes after the Hope and the Lewis ? I think they would fit in your List..
Oh, im Not that far yet😂. I am Running them and Need to say, that the Choice of Rotors hast a huge impact on Braking power, in the beginning i ran SRAM hs2‘s and thought, They where weak but after Switching to Galfer Wave discs the power almost doubled
Yeah rotors definitely make an impact. There is something to be said about standardizing rotors between tests though, especially since I don't get paid to make these reviews. 😆
I'm not a huge fan of the current TRPs, so unless there's a convenient opportunity I'll probably wait for their next gen brakes. Cascade is higher on my list but I'd like to get through the stock options first!
Hey Dale, i noticed you put a magura score in the dale scale, did i miss this review or is it not out yet? I'm a magura user and i'm curious to see what you think about them lol
@@DaleStone hahah, makes sense i guess. I have a set of MT5 HC's and absolutely love them, watching all these reviews about brakes that i can only dream to have them up for sale here in Brazil makes me wonder how good a brake set can actually get
Hi and thank you for sharing your impressions. Where did you get the front adapter bracket? Or was it custom made? What’s the size of the rotor 203mm? Thank you.
Forget to ask this every time (lol). I notice you never wear knee pads, are they uncomfortable, just not a fan or you just dont need them. Those brakes are just to expensive. Its awesome the chanel is working out for you.
I would absolutely love to try a set of those, but they're a bit too pricey for my current income. 🫠 Maybe they'll send a set over for testing if enough people reach out!
Very surprised with your scale regarding Shimano, to see a better performance from SLX and MT520 over XT and XTR, I'm very surprised, I have the MT520, good brakes for my XC bike or small ride. Now on my Enduro and E-bikes, I use the Shimano Saints and they are much more powerful than my MT520 especially for bike parks or extended steep riding
I have had a minimum of 3-4 sets of each tier, and I found that SLX didn't have the same wandering bite point issues that XT and XTR did. Small sample size, but still more than 10 so I'm sticking with it.
@@DaleStoneI have xt 4 pistons. Never had the wandering bite point. I love them. Great modulation and power. Have to remind myself to squeeze a little harder when I ride my other non xt bikes.
@@exoghost3596 it's priority number 2 in the new year, so I hope to have it done by the end of January or start of February. If you're willing to potentially deal with warrantying a leaky set, I'd say go for it now! Performance is 👌
I love me some bike jewelry, but I love a good deal even more. What are the best cheap brakes that you've ever used? 👇
Dale you should review the trp dhr evo
@@logank1647 if you're buying, I'm in! 😆
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Best cheap brake I ever used is the aliexpress iiiPro iv4r. I swapped the pads with hope V4 full metallic pads and the brake is as awesome as my M8120 XT. Codes are also cheap now on ebay and been using that for years.
@@DaleStone lol I just bought some to put on my yeti
As much as I love the regular trail riding videos, these brake reviews have to be my favorite
haha thanks, me too at the moment!
Waiting for the the Tech 4 V4s!
Best brake ever
Please review them
I do not care about out my budget bike components, but rather admire your dedication and professionalism in this type of “documentaries”.
Man, simply the best MTB component reviews. So well done!
Thank you!
Agree. Pretty sure I won't have any further questios after your brake series.
Very nice video man! Your last few videos are in another stratosphere in terms of quality and production! Keep it up I love the engineering background you bring 🔥
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@ I know you don't want any $$ for this which is very noble and respectful I hear ya! But these reviews, with the quality you bring have to be time consuming. There is NO SHAME in being compensated for good work (such as this). I would gladly subscribe if you had a paid channel or a patreon or whatever (and I cannot be the only one). Please reconsider!
Much ❤️ from Washington state!
I appreciate that! These videos do indeed take tens of hours to complete. There appears to be some level of interest for a Patreon style thing, so I'll have to weigh the pros and cons of perusing something like that soon. Until then, if you know of anybody who needs dog gear... 😁
136 pounds, had to check. And that is light. I thought I was like hovering in and below 160, which is about 72 kg. But on to the point, stellar review, and I know I will never own a pair of those. Unless maybe Eric loaned them to me as well I guess he’d have to give them to me. Thanks again for the awesome unbiased review and I can’t wait to see the next one
aspirational brakes are two words i never imagined being adjacent to one another...good work!
Love this series! Looking forward to getting that competition table filled out, it's a great resource for researching upgrades.
Are you one day thinking of doing a similar type of thing with other components ine day?
If they increase the number of hours per day in a future update, then absolutely. 🙂
@DaleStone 😂, don't push yourself to hard. I think we can all agree we'd rather keep the sparse high quality content than sacrificing the work you do for more content.
REALLY good video! I really appreciate a good component review. Some of the videos and reviews out there don't offer the comparisons that you made, which is very much appreciated since your latest videos have been reviewing the latest brakes out there. Thank you!
I like how a trademark of smart and efficient people is talking quite fast because you want to communicate as effectively as possible and to be honest talking is quite a burdain. It feels like your brain is always on the next thought and your mouth has a hard time keeping up if the output is to still be understandable haha. Great review, feels good to be from Europe for once!
It's also a symptom of social media shortening people's attention spans unfortunately, haha. But thanks! 🫡
cant say enough positive things about how you pace and produce your reviews. normally review videos do not keep the audience engaged what so ever but I can guarantee to sit through this with full attention. looking forwards to the new lewis brake review
The key is eating a lot of sugar before I narrate. 🫡
This is fast becoming the goto channel for gear reviews and this brake series is the best, we just need to see the Lewis LHT review
I love your detailed review videos! How about a review on DHR EVOs? Thank you for all of the work that went into this.
I'm not a fan of how linear they are, so I might just wait until their replacements come out next year!
@@DaleStone they are coming out with new ones? thats exciting to hear
I mean, one can only assume with the rumours going around haha. Nothing concrete. 🙂
"If I had a nickel for every time IMBY had blead a set of Maximas in the month prior to my testing, I'd have two nickels. Which isn't a lot, but it's weird that it happened twice." -D. Stone
Only 39998 nickels to go!
I’m buzzing for you to try hopes, I genuinely think they’re the best performing brake for the money (in the U.K. at least).
The more I read about them, the more excited I get. 🙂
After having ridden both Maven and Maxima I would agree that Maxima may have more power but the Maven gives harder bite with 80% of the power. Along with being 1/4 the price I feel like nobody actually needs anymore power than Maven. But if I was looking for something very premium Maximas are at the top of my list.
I agree that the Mavens have a harder bite than the Maximas. On the showroom floor that may be a pro, but on the trails I believe that to be a con (due to reduced modulation, especially when combined with a potentially wandering bite point). It's like how mattress stores let you lie on the softest beds, when a firmer bed would actually suit your sleeping needs much better (in the form of support, analogous to modulation). Definitely agreed that nobody needs more power, which is why I focus on fatigue. 🙂
Not only your riding is spectacular, your reviews are equally outstanding! All the best from Germany!
Danke! 🍻
@@DaleStoneBitte :)! By the way: I use the Trickstuff pads on my Code (with Hope rotors), highly recommended. Poor man‘s Maxima so to say.
Top notch review, Dale! Very educational & entertaining!
Thanks Steve!
I'm over 300lbs and my Intend Trinity brakes still have massive power, didn't think i would beat Hope V4's till i got the intends haha
That's a great data point haha, thanks!
Top quality review as per usual!
The brakes are cool and all, but the real champ of this video is the inclusion of proper jank trails Bookwus, Grannies and Crippler. Hell yeah!
In the wet too. 😱
I came initially for the riding but keep coming back for brake reviews 😅👌
these videos are just so good and interesting that they can never come out soon enough!
I really wish they could! 😆
@@DaleStonedo you think the comment on weight is a thing for someone around 82/84kg riding weight? You’re so light 😅
@@TheMTBRider96 in terms of what aspect?
@ in the Trinity vs maxima consideration where you say that if you’re heavy maxima can indeed be better
@@TheMTBRider96 it's so weight/skill/terrain dependent that I have a tough time recommending either option without knowing more. Next weekend's video will be an in depth comparison between the two options!
Also, regarding the hose diameter, Trickstuff Maxima are able to be fitted with the 5mm kevlar hose the Direttissima use, so they can clear all internally routed frames. The Maxima caliper loves oil volume, so there may be a very slight decrease in performance going from the 6mm hose to the 5mm hose. But, this is completely doable and you can order your Maxima that way.
A few online retailers list the Kevlar hose at 5.2mm, so although it is much better for internal routing, there would be no guarantee that it is compatible with all internally routed frames that are designed around 5.0mm. The bigger the gap as-designed, the more opportunities there are for rattling, so many are very very close! 🙂
I am using kevlar hoses and compared to my friend with steel braided hoses there is no difference in performance.
Dear Dale. Your riding skills are as great but just as impressive is listening to your voice narrate component reviews. Sincerely, happy subscriber.
PS Thanks for knowing your shit and your honest and unbiased feedback.
Haha, thanks!
Great reviews 👌 😊😊
TRP Trails. You have to review them. I love them and honestly would be hard pressed to even want to try other brakes.
Also, I think there is another plus for expensive brakes (assuming they have a history behind them): If you bought them as "forever" brakes, i.e. the last brakes you will every buy.
Loved this review. Thanks Dale! TRP review next? 😜
No! 😜
@ since I use them on two bikes, and if they get a good review, I’ll surely ride better 🥲It’s okay I’ll tune in to any and all reviews 😁
👏 Exceptional as always.
Nice review man! Really looking forward to your take on the hope tech4 v4s! Especially their green race pad hardly need any breakin at all.
If that's the pad they come with, that's the pad I'll be testing! 🙂
@@DaleStone They come with 3 different pads on each side in the package being their green race pads (pre-isntalled), a set of ebike pads (purple) and some standard pads (red). So essentially you have 4 sets of replacement pads to the preinstalled ones, if you purchase front and rear... like who wouldn't.. but still 🤣
Since you mentioned that you might prefer the Direttissima as it may have better low-end modulation - it doesn´t. I have the Maxima on my bike and the Direttissima on my wife's rig. The Direttissima is incredibly on/off for me with almost no dead stroke. I don't like it too much. But given we have the older C41 calipers, I hear that might have changed a bit with the newer C42.
The Maxima with its comparably long stroke until full power I find very nice to modulate. That being sad, the dead stroke at times feels a bit too much. I will do a full bleed this winter and overfill a little to try and reduce that. Thanks for the review and spreading the word about these cool products!
Interesting, that is a bit surprising to hear. Thanks for sharing your experience!
Super interesting review as always! And its funny to see that the only "negatives" with the Maximas, is that the Intend brakes exist. These have been "THE" brake to get if you wanted the absolutely best brake, for a long time. But it seems like Intend really picked up the ball on the parts that are somewhat negative for the maximas (bleeding, lever feel) - But are maybe 10% ish less powerful?
As an owner of intend brakes myself, I have always been curious if the grass is greener on the Trickstuff side - But it seems like its pretty on par! I could never wish for anything more powerful, and the lever feel/bleed process of the Intends far outweigh anything else that trickstuff offers as of now! For my XC bike on the other hand, I might want to get a set of Piccolas, or the new brakes Intend are teasing...
PS - I love that your channel now has become the official unoficcial brake tester channel - Something that has really been lacking in the MTB space. I look forward to seeing you test more! (Even though i'll probably never get rid of my intends :D)
I hope to have a dedicated Trinity vs Maxima comparison video out next weekend. You definitely have the correct assumptions here, and I will also not be parting with mine any time soon! 🙂
Really love that doug demuro review style
I'm shocked it hasn't been adapted more to other industries.
Another great review and luckily for me I can't afford these so it makes the decision and the fact that I ride trails in Ontario that they wouldn't make sense for so much easier to not buy LOL. But I did enjoy the review a lot and the brake tests in general. Well done!
Thanks for watching despite these having 2 more pistons than you need! 😂
@@DaleStone LOL, I'm over-braked, my Optic came with MT420, metallic pads 203/180 and I switched the levers to the 6100 ones. I don't have stopping problems here 🤣
I got a pair of used hope t4 v4, and I believe they would be a fair comparison with the maxima, extremely powerful, very light lever feel, not difficult to have them dialled but maybe not as easy as the maxima, more adjustability, a lot cheaper. I changed from sram code r, couldn’t be happier.
No doubt I'd prefer these over Mavens but not at the current price difference. That being said my Mavens have been really great so far. The wandering bite point still exists but is greatly reduced after following proper bleeding instructions (shout out to Aaron Pelttari) and I haven't encountered any other commonly mentioned problems. The lever is indeed quite firm. Far from ideal but in reality it didn't bother me on the trail. Switching from Saints I have way less fatigue with them because they ramp up quicker. This difference may or may not be due to the fact that I'm closer to 100kg.
I've had the Trickstuff Maxima brakes before and you touched on all the things I remember. Very difficult to bleed with a weird operation of tilting up the lever, and a slippery lever blade. Now that I live in Bentonville, I can't imagine riding Trickstuff brakes when its wet or cold. I released a TRP DHR brake video today and my first impressions were very poor. Good feel, but down on power with the stock resin brake pads.
The rear caliper bring so close to the frame is slightly concerning but i guess clearance is clearance
It is absurdly close. I had to actually find a different brake mount adapter for the fork too, since my Intend one was not compatible. Should have mentioned that in the video actually... 🙃
Dale -I feel bad about your 62 kg weight. If you need a mentor on how to increase that - I am here for you....
Oh trust me I'm trying. 😆 Could probably get to 64 with some effort!
He just needs an extra grandma.
The secret is: Beer. Lots and lots of cans 😂
Thank god you didnt hear about my 45 kg
I just ate 3000-4000 calories of Reese and potato chips in one sitting…..gonna be a long off season
Really looking forward to the comparison with Lewis and Hope, and the eventual roast of the fastener choice on the Gustav Pro! I see you've pretty much standardised on SRAM HS2 rotors, I would also consider standardising the pad compound, perhaps Galfer or Kool-Stop?
It's very difficult to standardize pad compound since some brands have proprietary brake pad shapes, and I don't think that one aftermarket brand is able to cover all of them with a quality lineup. In general I try to stick with what was designed but sometimes my budget requires otherwise, haha.
Would love to see a review of the Formula Cura 4. They seem to hit all the marks at a pretty reasonable price.
They're pretty rare around here, which reflects on them being lower on my priority list, but I am also keen to try them eventually!
Curios to see you review the formula cura 4
Just ordered a bike with a pair of formula cura 4 with rgtec lever upgrade, 220 rotors and galfer green pads; waiting for it to be delivered; thinking these are the only brakes (in this configuration) that come close to the trickstuff maxima and beat any other brake on the market.
Can't wait to try them out
They're not very common around here so they're lower on the priority list, but I'd also like to check them out eventually!
The lever slop in the cura lever is ridiculous...it uses a hard plastic bush so replace the levers with the rg levers which have bearings and zero play. The cura 4 phelonic pistons are also a pita so get yourself some cotton buds and clean around the seal area regularly
Regarding Price: Every Trickstuff ist the most expensive brake on the market except for Trickstuff. Piccola, Picolla HD, Direttissima go all for 1100€, the Maxima for 1300€.
The Direttissima and Piccola HD (I own both) go with the 4 Piston SRAM standard, thats why I use them on my touring bikes. This way I can find replacements more easily. Last time I have been to the US I had trouble finding replacements for a Magura MT4.
By a coincidence I just finished the mounting of a Direttissima 3 hours prior to your video. My old brake broke down and I had one scheduled to be mounted some time in the future.
I am glad that Trickstuff decided to go with the code standard for their C42 caliper revision. Definitely a nice quality of life improvement!
@@DaleStone It sure is convenient. Also the other way around. I actually decided to buy Trickstuff brakes because I like their brake pads, not the performance version but the standard version. I went through too many brake pads before I switched. Now I live in a flat part of the country so it doesn't matter as much.
Great review of the Maximas btw.
Shimano saint levers, Xt calipers, front galfer green pad, rear Shimano metal, rear rotor hs2 sram, front rotor galfer sharkbite. Putoline oil (for the light lever)
You sound like the VitalMTB forums. 😆
@ yes. It has come to that. But it works. And has tonnes of power. For a lot less money too.
Really good video! I'm waiting for the Hope Tech 4 review. Currently running E4 brakes and I love the on-trail feel. I have had some misadventures however, including a warranty claim. One thing that really bothers me is the noise the stock pads make. I tried trickstuff power+ pads and it did get a lot better.
Hopefully my set won't rattle then... haha
Love my Maxima over the Intend Trinity. As a previously SRAM user, I personally prefer the softer bite point feel of the Maxima. I think someone who prefers Shimano style solid bite point would love the Trinity instead.
Martha Creek T to B is so much more enjoyable with the Maximas haha.
Agree that both are heads and shoulders above the rest haha, hope you sold your Trinties easily! 🫡
@@DaleStone Just like you mentioned in your video, these boutique brakes really hold their value. Used them for a season and sold for $100 CAD less. Pretty incredible depreciation regardless of the bike market state.
The Maxima have been my favorite brake to date. Next in line favorites are the Trickstuff Direttissima and then Hope T4 V4. I have Direttissima on a Sentinel and my Maxima on the Spire. I have a set of Radic Kaha i've yet to try, high expectations for those. You do in fact get what you pay for, especially in brakes. I do miss Sram's Bleeding Edge system, good thing Radic incorporated that in their caliper. But Trickstuff bleed very easy, a lot like Shimano. The Hope T4 V4 have immense power, but the free stroke and pad contact was a bit of let down. I had to re-center the pad contact quite a few times with the V4 caliper, it would influence the bite point at times.
Regarding hope, do you mean while the pads are wearing down?
About free stroke and contact point what was a let down?
Curious to know what you think about the Kahas once you try them
You do seem to get what your pay for as a general trend, but diminishing returns are a very real phenomenon too!
@@TheMTBRider96 From new. The Hope E4 and V4 pistons do not all stroke simultaneously, it's customary to require a flathead screwdriver, and with the pads installed and rotor in the channel, engage the brakes and pay attention to which bank of pistons contacts the rotor first. I've ran 4 sets of T4 V4 on 4 different bikes and had to do this process multiple times on each bike. With the edge of the screwdriver, and modulating the lever, you have to apply pressure to the pad backing plate and hold back the bank of pistons that is engaging further first, and slowly work the pads out until both left and right banks engage the rotor simultaneously. if you don't do this, you will have a "mushy" brake feel, as the rotor is being pushed to one side much further due to one bank of pistons engaging the rotor first. Once this is dialed in, they are fantastic brakes. But this is required after installing new pads and each bleed. I've never had to do this on any of my Trickstuff brakes (5 so far; 2 Maxima, 2 Direttissima and 1 Piccola). Trickstuff machines the oil galley's in a way that oil is distributed to each piston at the exact same volume every cycle so you get equal contact on both banks no matter what.
Regarding the T4 V4 free stroke and bite point, you can dial in the bite point to help engage the rotor sooner and adjust the reach. But neither of those adjustments helped the V4 have more of a "modulated" feel. Once you engaged the rotor, there was not that much room to feather the brakes. They are immensely powerful, but there is just a zone where nothing happens and the lever was floppy and then BAM, you are really stopping. The V4 is not a great all-around brake, even at my 220 lb rider weight. I would suggest 98% of all riders go for the E4. The Maxima on the other hand feel's a lot like the Direttissima, retaining a fantastic lever feel and frankly no need for a bite point adjust. It really is that perfect of a brake. For me and my riding, 99.9% of the time the Direttissima is enough. I don't think I will ever be in a situation where I will say "gee I wish I had my Maxima's." For most riders, I agree with Dale, the Maxima is absolute overkill. But hey, they work fantastic on the single track too! And they look f'ing gorgeous. LOL
Haha I feel you with the 62kg weight, I've been 62-64kg for years now, and sticky forks are annoying. I like to have the most supple tyres I can find too.
Remember when we had to saddle bounce droppers to go down? Those were the days.
@DaleStone 😂😂 honestly I'm almost ashamed to admit I still haven't gotten around to getting a dropper..
Certainly not budget but would be interested in the feel differences in your perspective between Hope brakes with mineral oil vs DOT oil, see if perceived feel between SRAM and Shimano stuff is due to oil or actual mechanics of the brake design
The Radic Kahas would actually allow for this test... 👀
i think the maxima is the product you get when just developing based on specs disregarding any manufacturing or market constraints. It was just developed to be the strongest brake and they succeeded. Obviously to the disadvantage of price and availability.
I think their price is tied more to their demand, rather than their manufacturing cost. Capitalism at its finest!
Would live to see what you think of the Formula Cura 4 brakes. Any chance you will do a review on Formula brakes?
Eventually I'd love to!
Dale, when is the TRP DHR Evo review coming? Their new updated version will drop around April next year, so you'd better be quick! Haha
They might beat me to it then, haha. The current ones are far too linear for my liking and steeper than average trails.
@ Perhaps a short review video before they release the new version? To see how they stack up to the rest, especially since TRP is rated quite highly by many.
I myself ditched them though as my short fingerlings didn't work with the long lever throw. Looking forward to the new brakes however - have you seen the photos?
The time investment for any amount of content is pretty high (buying, installing, setting up, bedding in, etc), so it would be an all or nothing kind of thing. Maybe somebody has a set locally installed and I could just borrow their bike... Dave... 👀
@@DaleStone Dale, you should invite your large friend vancan to help you get some input on the fatigue / power / weight thing, if that's logistically possible for you. Many of us watching these reviews are probably larger people who are finding current brakes too weak.
I always try to get the input of heavier riders whenever possible, even when it's only anecdotal evidence online. You should convince him to do brake reviews at the same time as me! 😉
I don’t think it was a question that they’re not great value, most super high end things aren’t. But for ambitios people with the cash to back it up it makes perfect sense IMO.
Vote with your money as I always say. 🙂
You should test the Clarks C4 brakes, they look amazing, and are remarkably(almost worryingly) affordable !!
Would be fun to test a set of those eventually, though they don't really exist in the wild around these parts haha.
My problem is heat build up.im a heavy guy on a heavy ebike.just put on 220mm vented hope discs front and back.and use a very expensive brake fluid to get a claimed extra 20c.a diet would help tbh !
I'd be impressed if these brakes had trouble stopping you, but you never know haha.
Hey from germany. Love your videos. Currently running the Maximas on my orbea rallon. I am quite heavy and love them. Which cable clamps do you use here? looks like they are a srew in option. Do you have a name or link ? big thanks and keep up the good work 💪🏽
I may have borrowed them from Eric's bike to help quiet down these Goodridge hoses, so I'm not actually sure! 😁
How did you find such a difference between the XT, SLX, and XTR brakes and will you be publishing reviews for all of those. Thanks, I love the videos
The key differences are reliability, wandering bite point frequency and durability. We will see if I get around to making dedicated videos! 🙂
Hey bud!
Awsome review! Love it!
I do have a question, but about wheels/spokes!
I know you’ve made a review some time ago about bird spokes!
Are you still running those spokes? How have they held up to all the riding u have been doing on them.
Much service required?
Are they up for hard impacts days on end or are they more ment for xc/trail riding more then enduro/downhill?
Thanks in advance and keep it up bud!
tbh I think adjustability appart from lever reach is completly unnecessary on a well designed Brake.
If one designes a Brake with good leverage ratio and bitepoint like Intend has done it with the Trinity for example, A adjustment for these could make it worse.
therefore I think the adjustability rating is questionable I would replace it with a rating that describes if a user can find the perfect setup/adjustment and how easy/hard it is to find the perfect setup.
Anyway, Great review, your brake reviews are a becoming one of the best sources for information on MTB brakes.
It's a good point for sure and although I agree to an extent here, you might be surprised at the extreme range of setups that people prefer to run around here. The range is so wide that built in adjustments are almost required in order to cover the majority of rider's needs. Adjustability also covers things like leverage ratio adjustments, shifter compatibility, bar clamp design, brake pad standard compatibility (and aftermarket brand availability).
...I think I need to make a video that explains this scale in more detail perhaps, haha. 🙂
I would love to see you test Hope Tech 4 V4 with the vented rotors.
Those rotors are rad, but I don't think my weight warrants their use and my wallet certainly agrees, haha.
I have these brakes with vented rotors. I'm 100kg and they are definitely the best brakes I've ever used, by far!!
I got hope 4 with vented 220 front and back.found a race fluid to get an extra 20’c .im 100kg also on a heavy ebike i keep cooking them especially on hot days .im yet to really test the new rotors fully.i think a lot of hope owners aren’t getting 100pc from them because off bleeding is a @@@@@@.
I run the V4s with the TRP rotors. Best brakes I’ve ever used by far!! I’m thinking of getting the vented rotors but I’m not sure they’re necessary the brakes are already so good!!!
You list states the Hope Tech 4 V4's are $930 for a set? Even if that's Canadian $ that's a pretty massive markup. I can buy and have bought a set of those for something like $620 Canadian from Germany and that's pretty much the price most German online shops sell them for that I've seen.
Is that the actual price of hopes in Canada?
Edit: Really looking forward to your test of the Hope's!:)
That is indeed the official listed Canadian retail price for a set of NON-braided V4s. I agree that they can probably be found cheaper online at that price though, haha
I have four bikes. Three with Maximas and one with Hope V4s. Enough said.!😃
Are you looking to adopt a 29 year old?
@ sorry mate no! 😃But if I could maybe inherit some of your MTB skills then that would be a massive help …. then who knows.🤷🏼.
I’m your 100 kg guy and bought my first set off kickstarter.
Once you have been Maximad you don’t want anything else. Although to be fair the Hope V4 on my e-bike are also superb.
Greeting to you from a wet and miserable Uk.
Keep up the good work.👊
@@DaleStone hey
You should review the Radic Kahas
I would love to, but they are unfortunately too expensive for my budget these days. Maybe they'll send a set over if enough people ask them! 🙂
Please do a review on some Radic Kahas!
I'd love to, but they're slightly out of my Canadian budget, but if enough people reach out and ask them directly... 😁
@@DaleStoneUnderstandable.
After riding Maximas for 3 years I ordered a set of Kahas. They’re yet to arrive but would seem to fix all the gripes I had with the Trickstuffs which was mostly the lack bite point adjustment.
I even went and installed the bite point adjuster from lewis brakes but that still didn’t do it for me.
Was waiting for this review - great work, thank you! I own a pair of Maximas and they are definitely the best brakes I ever had in my fingers. As for the very high price: you can think of it like very expensive watch - it will live longer than any other brake, and you will probably mount them on your next bike and then the next as well. 1300€ divided by 3 makes about 430€, then you are at the same point as if you would buy any other high quality brake on the market, three times (for three bikes). And you still have the best brake. So that's a big win for me 🙂
I agree that brakes like these are almost buy it for life!
Can we expect some other reviews (eg Shimano XT/slx, Magura)? Any chance trp brakes get thrown into the mix? (There's so many glowing anecdotal reports of them, but I've yet to see a detailed, systematic breakdown of them like yours)
I would like to cover everything eventually! But unfortunately time is limited, so I must also prioritize what I and my audience are interested in. 🫠
Beauty and true cost value is always in the performance . Would you pick a Dumvee over a Unimog ? This engineer says go with proven reliable service friendly performance .
I'm not sure I follow. Product performance is scored independent of aesthetics as it can be measured with a blindfold, or in a black box. We share similar criteria otherwise.
as a trickstuff maxima owner coming from shimano xtr I have to critisize the messy bleeding process.
Thank you for your nicce comparrison videos. Are you planing on doing the TRP DH brakes after the Hope and the Lewis ? I think they would fit in your List..
Would be nice to fill out the list yeah!
It's more expensive than my whole bike :D
Loved my Maximas until I got the Trinitys. :D
You know what's up!
I agree, had trickstuff on my bike until I got a set of intends.
I would love, to See you test the Hope Tech4 v4‘s
I mention my plan to do so in this video! 😉
Oh, im Not that far yet😂.
I am Running them and Need to say, that the Choice of Rotors hast a huge impact on Braking power, in the beginning i ran SRAM hs2‘s and thought, They where weak but after Switching to Galfer Wave discs the power almost doubled
Yeah rotors definitely make an impact. There is something to be said about standardizing rotors between tests though, especially since I don't get paid to make these reviews. 😆
@@DaleStone yeah, i get that
If there happens to be way too much demand for these brakes I've got a set for sale in the lower mainland too ;)
The answer to your question is no. The juice isn’t worth the 2k squeeze, but I’m looking forward to your analysis.
You never know! 😉
Any plans for TRP review soon? How about a comparison with and without the cascade adjuster (on the TRPs or other brakes)?
I'm not a huge fan of the current TRPs, so unless there's a convenient opportunity I'll probably wait for their next gen brakes. Cascade is higher on my list but I'd like to get through the stock options first!
I have a feeling you would like Formula Cura 4's :)
Hey Dale, i noticed you put a magura score in the dale scale, did i miss this review or is it not out yet? I'm a magura user and i'm curious to see what you think about them lol
I wrote the script close to 6 months ago, but just haven't found the time or motivation to actually film it haha. Maybe one day... 🙂
@@DaleStone hahah, makes sense i guess. I have a set of MT5 HC's and absolutely love them, watching all these reviews about brakes that i can only dream to have them up for sale here in Brazil makes me wonder how good a brake set can actually get
You’re the same weight as my dog, and unsurprisingly you’re probably faster on the trails. 😂
19.06 hope thats not a crack on the deviate under the brake mount @Dalestone
That would be the ride wrap. but I appreciate the heads up. 🙂
Hi and thank you for sharing your impressions. Where did you get the front adapter bracket? Or was it custom made? What’s the size of the rotor 203mm? Thank you.
I believe it is an NSB adapter and a 200mm front HS2 rotor.
@@DaleStone thank you very much I hope I can find the one for 203 mm. But Hank you for answer, and thank you for your honest review too.
Forget to ask this every time (lol). I notice you never wear knee pads, are they uncomfortable, just not a fan or you just dont need them. Those brakes are just to expensive. Its awesome the chanel is working out for you.
Gotta free the knees. 🌬️🦵🦵
Please compare the Magura Gustav Pro to the Magura MT7 when making the video
Eventually!
Will you ever test Hope brakes?
I address this in the video
Im waiting for Hayes and Hope
Hope techs please !!!!!!!
Try the hope tech v4!!!
I mentioned my plan for those in this video! 😉
Have you see the Radic Kaha brakes out of NZ?
I would love to test them out, but they are out of my budget. Maybe if enough people reach out to them directly! 🙂
If you want to borrow a set of V4s in Squamish let me know.
Wow, thanks! If I hadn't just put in my order I may have taken you up on that, haha. 🤘
@@DaleStonewell they’re not doing anything until the summer so if you change your mind let me know.
Cancel your order and take them up on it @@DaleStoneand put the money to something else....
Vegetable oil has been used a fuel and engine oil. Well now it's used in MTB brakes...
Shimano Saint calipers with XTR levers, 1/4 of the price and good enough.
Though I don't disagree, XTR is a weird choice for a value comparison haha. Especially given the long term durability nightmares associated.
How about Die Bremse by 612 Parts review?
I would absolutely love to try a set of those, but they're a bit too pricey for my current income. 🫠 Maybe they'll send a set over for testing if enough people reach out!
Very surprised with your scale regarding Shimano, to see a better performance from SLX and MT520 over XT and XTR, I'm very surprised, I have the MT520, good brakes for my XC bike or small ride. Now on my Enduro and E-bikes, I use the Shimano Saints and they are much more powerful than my MT520 especially for bike parks or extended steep riding
I have had a minimum of 3-4 sets of each tier, and I found that SLX didn't have the same wandering bite point issues that XT and XTR did. Small sample size, but still more than 10 so I'm sticking with it.
@@DaleStone I am ~200lbs too maybe that's why
@@DaleStoneI have xt 4 pistons. Never had the wandering bite point. I love them. Great modulation and power. Have to remind myself to squeeze a little harder when I ride my other non xt bikes.
Glad your set seems reliable. When they work they're fantastic!
do you plan on reviewing the trp dhr evo brakes at any time
You'll find that answer in a few other replies, haha. Maybe!
@ guess i didn’t read enough comments then.
Excellent review and articulation. Love the 2 lines - life changing price and pitting capitalism vs communism. Lol
I can't resist a good zinger.
Why did BCPOV not want them anymore?
Great question, which I believe he'll answer this week. 👀
Would you recommend the intend over the mavins? #orbea wild 220lbs
If you're serious, yes. Easy answer. 🫡
Is Saint review coming any time soon?
You'll have to jog my memory here, haha. I suspect Shimano will beat me to this with their next generation brakes.
You ever try shimano saints
Not enough to have a presentable opinion, but Shimano claims they have the same power as their main lineup, which I have extensive experience with.
Could i know your fork setup as I’m 60 kg as well and I’m having problems finding the perfect setup
If I remembered, I'd tell ya. Recommended pressure and wide open, probably.
@ on the compression and rebound?
Wide open everything, probably.
@@DaleStone I was also tinking of buying a new set of Hayes but I’m waiting for your final review when is it going to be?
@@exoghost3596 it's priority number 2 in the new year, so I hope to have it done by the end of January or start of February. If you're willing to potentially deal with warrantying a leaky set, I'd say go for it now! Performance is 👌