I don't think they are ashamed of who makes it. I think they have a OEM that may be small and they don't want other companies poaching their production capacity.
Thanks for this helpful review. I like the design of this knife, and its elegantly simple visual appeal. I also like the idea of Vanax being ultra corrosion resistant. It would be a bit hard though to accept having to deal with issues of a potentially burnt edge, lock rock (what’s up with the loose fitting stop pin?), and screws that may be prone to stripping on a $300 knife. You’ve done a great service as far as I am concerned.
Waypoint is my favorite knife,.i must say that first 😀. About that thay are done in cnc....well, all factory and mid tech knives are made by cnc, Hinderer, Chris reeve are way expensive than the waypoint and they definitely use cheaper steel than the vanax. Some titanium spydercos, and a lot Benchmades are close in price, but with cheaper materials. Trm are 100 less, but without titanium and vanax 🙂.
I middle finger flick mine 90% of the time, but I have to use the top of my finger nail and it rockets out. The Waypoint is definitely one of my favorite knives this year, but I agree that a full size would be awesome. Their actually made in Taiwan not China. “Great review I’m checking all my screws now lol”
@@NeevesKnives we all do lol, but google Torques Plus System screws and you can see that the start pattern is different they are more round at the points of the star and regular Torx are more like a star. I just ordered a set of the “Torx Plus Bits”.
Hey jerad between this or the tactile rockwall what is a better choice I'm leaning towards this but would like another opinion. Thanks for the review and hope to hear back from you
Jared, idk if it matters, some guy named nick shabas says quiet carry told him they are MFG in Taiwan. Heat treated in US. It’s interesting but at 3 bills..that’s a no for me dogg.
Yeah I've done a follow up video on this knife a long term update, which I'm alot happier about now and love the knife, it is expensive but considering what your getting I don't think it's out of line, almost no companies are using vanax because it's so expensive, and a knife that's completely corrosion proof is a great asset. But to each there own there's a lot of other great knives
I love mine. I got it on first production run. I didn't have a problem with the edge, rear screw or lock rock. I wonder if the lock rock is somehow related to that missing screw.
No the missing screw is just for the lanyard pin, but i to love the knife and if i cant deal with it myself im sure the company will deal with the issue
@@JohnC29 yes im sorry, i dont think thats why but its very possible i guess i can take one off the other knife as long as it fits and see if it helps thanks bud
@@NeevesKnives I have a first production run as well, had it now for approx 9 months. I freehand sharpen as well and because I'm OCD, within the first hour I'm putting my own edge on the knife, that's the joy in it for me. The small stop pin didn't give me any problems with play initially but, it did eventually show up. It's minimal but still frustrating. I will say that the corrosion resistance is legit, along with several other "rust proof" knives this one went on multiple offshore fishing trips that were as long as three days. I cut bait and line and rinsed in nothing but cobalt blue salt water. Not a spot of rust on the blade, the lc200n parts did show some rust coloring but easily wiped clean. I love this knife, absolutely one of my favorites, maybe I'll contact QC and try to get a replacement pin, just picked up the new drift , can't wait to see how it performs in comparison to its skinny sibling. Long comment,damn! Great review!
What impresses u more an expensive knife say 200 and up that it does what u paid 4 it 2 do looks awesome or a budget knife say $50 and under that performs just as well
Aw man thats tough, because a 200$ done right is going to have better materials, and a budget knife done right will have budget materials i would have to say the 200 knife but theres knives at 50$ that i would use over a knife that is 200
Excellent review, thank you! If you ever get ahold of a QC Drift, it would make for an interesting comparison. The new Drift has studs and is really flicky. Similar to the Waypoint but different ergos, frame lock, finger choil, and flat grind.
Another question, do you lubricate these knives? They have the bronze washers but they are not really load bearing. If they need to be lubricated then you may need to lubricate it again if you rinsed it after a marine environment. Personally I’d have a dedicated straight knife for the marine environment, ie a fishing knife.
I personally do, it's not going to require it as much as most for corrosion but is still good for keeping good smooth action, although washers can stay extremely smooth without adding anything all the time. The detent ball will want oil from time to time though
Hi Jerad, I want to buy this knife, seems like some QC issues esp at this price? Also I don't normally like satin blades....what blade looks better on this knife SW or Satin?
I’m super late to this party and to your question but I like the stonewashed blades on the Waypoint and Drift. Goes well with a stonewashed or knurled handle. Got satin on The Nine because that was available and while it is beautiful, the first scratch will hurt my soul
Thanks for the honest feedback. Too many reviews claim this knife as ‘perfect’. Clear it’s still a good knife, but also some points for improvement that you clearly point out.
Great review! I actually had a similar experience with the factory edge. After sharpening on my KME the edge retention seems much better. Curious, what angle and grit did you sharpen yours at? I know some steels perform better with finer grits, and others perform better with toothier grits. Or maybe you still need to play with Vanax some more to reach a solid conclusion on that...
I definitely need to keep playing around with the steel but this one was sharpened around 17 to 19° i freehand so im not a hundred percent but its around there
I love the look of this knife, I don’t know anything but is the corrosion resistance blade traded off against the hardness and the ability to retain an edge? I recently looked at a tungsten carbide blade with the red handle which doesn’t contain any iron at all.
It actually holds an edge very well, as good as m390 imo, usually toughness is a huge trade off with edge retention although we have some amazing steels, but getting all 3 is the hard part edge retention strength and corrosion resistance, while one goes up one goes down but again we have some incredible steels out there that do have a good ratio, and steels like vanax are insanely good, also magnacut is sweeping the community right now
One of the biggest things with me is ease of carry. I like narrow knives,, light for their size and good blade/handle ratio. That design is perfect for me but after hearing about the problems on two different knives, I’m no longer interested. Once every few months or before I carry a knife I always check the screws with just a torx head from my BM blue box. It’s a POS but good for checking screw tightness. If a knife gets used hard the more of a chance of a screw loosening. It’s always worth the 30 seconds to check.
Definitely always good to check your hardware, i check often these screws are very short since the knife is so thin, so it doesnt take much, i do love the knife, and im sure anything i cant deal with the company will
I’ll take a blade of great tool steel over great stainless any day. Performance, to me, is paramount and I’m not willing to sacrifice, hardness, edge retention, wear resistance, or toughness for corrosion resistance. I’ve not seen any stainless that can take the same degree of aggressive and persistent edge that a great tool steel can. The stainless steels that are hard enough to compete in edge retention are chippy and harder to sharpen/strop back to excellence, IME. If I’m spending premium dollars on a blade, I’m generally looking for K390, M4, CruWear, or Maxamet.
If the parts weren’t manufactured in China, then how much would it be? “Glass half empty, glass half full” From what I’ve read, blade it treated at Peter’s something and people say he’s good. And the knife is assembled in the US Might get the g10 version
Probably the same, i mean trm makes knives for 100 cheaper in the usa with similar tolerances, but idk im just speculating, they own thrre own machines and come in small batches though, and someone said its taiwan not china i guess
@@NeevesKnives I guess it’s cost of materials then. Titanium scales, LC200N liner lock, and zanax blade. Pls don’t get me wrong, I’m not here to argue any opinions, just thinking out loud and maybe sharing a thought or 2.
@@tariqkamil7853 no not at all and i agree for the most part, but to mu knowledge thats one reason they outsource is to bring the cost down, and i could be completely wrong, and it could be a few things that im not even considering, im kind of thinking out loud myself, and thats why when i said the price that i would think wasnt that much cheaper, and its just a thought, as i said ive handled plenty of knives that cost more for less
I have just checked the screws on my Waypoint and lo and behold - the pocket clip screws and pivot appear to be perfectly normal and well fitting T8, but the lanyard hole insert (which was loose!!) behaves like your pivot screw - T8 is way too loose, T9 does not fit. I am not sure what is going on here. I will need to check with a magnifier to make sure that the lanyard one is not simply damaged, but I will be contacting QC about this.
Good review. I think you could use a bit more of an organized format to the review, but I found a lot of good info. Nice job. If you care about criticism- I'd say lay out your review, make it tighter and shorter. Otherwise, ignore me. Either way- very good review!
Great review, thanks for honest feedback. This is the first review of the waypoint that I’ve heard that has any negative feedback. I have the black DLC version and have been happy with mine. I have in my pocket today as a secondary knife to an XM-24.
I love the knife! Both knives and im hoping that they replace the pin and the rock goes away, theres so many knives that get so much wrong this one gets so much right but one has minor issues that will be dealt with so im ok with them but i still have to call it as i see or experience
I just won one of these tonight, & your review is so thorough & specific, I feel I've learned more about it from you then any other video, maybe even combined. Thanks for being so detailed in your descriptions! Subbed! 😃
Thank you i appreciate the comments and the sub, great knife im actually waiting now for the pin and screw to arrive, i think that will take the rock out so it will be back to solid, i also have a sharpening video on this knife if it helps at all linked in the description
Your description of the knife pretty much reflects my (limited) experience. The edge was indeed real bad out of the box (like 400 grit at most - I looked at it under 100x microscope - those mega scratches would scare small kids). It was basically roughly ground, but not sharpened. I took mine apart (out of curiosity) and while I did not adjust anything, the pivot keeps unscrewing withing few dozens flips, so some Loctite is a must. As someone that tends towards dry skin (especially in winter), I find the knife just a bit too slippery when closing/opening and that made me think of getting the G10 version and sell this one. Not sure. But I really, really like the blade and the whole design. What worries me is the level of support (like your lost pin) we can expect. When trying to communicate with QC the answers take quite a while and are cut short. Plus there is not other 'community' kind of support (like a company-run FB group - compare to e.g. TRM). Mine does not have any lock rock, the stop pin is as loose as yours. But the lock bar on mine seems to have a lot of tension, the knife gives more resistance as I would expect (and I played with the pivot screw quite a bit) BTW, to my knowledge these are outsourced to Taiwan. I saw that mentioned in one of the existing reviews (not really sure which one, I saw them all before I ordered the knife).
Yeah im hoping after i get a new screw and pin the rock will go away, im contacting them to replace it still no answer, and i love the knife but small improvements would be nice the screws are very shallow and have small threads, but either way i love the knife and happy to have it hopefully they replace the pin quickly
I had the exact same issue with the lanyard tube falling out. They sent me a replacement tube and two replacement screws. Both heads of the screw broke off when trying to put them in. I did not put any torque on them. Their tolerances are pretty poor.
@@NeevesKnives I decided to return the knife as I couldn't accept these flaws from a $300 knife. Yeah, they use an exotic super steel, and yeah, the liner lock is LC200N, and yeah, it's rust proof, but they can't get tolerances right for a lanyard holder and their screws are unreliable. You also mention how their pivot screw has poor tolerances. I think CedricAda also mentions how his screws show wear after just disassembling his knife. I would not trust using this knife in the water which I was intending to do. It cuts like a dream, sure but so can other knives without me worrying about if my knife is going to come apart. I'm kind of disappointed how so many reviewers had this knife at the top of their lists for knife of the year 2020. I'm glad you use your knives before putting out a review so that you can point out these flaws. You've gained a loyal subscriber.
@@Jim00000 thank you Jay! And i have felt the same way many times even getting the same exact knife that was passed and lost a lot of faith in certain reviewers opinions, im hoping that after using lock tight i dont have that issue or that it doesnt continue, thank you for commenting your experience, since i read every single comment I love hearing the communities opinion and or experience which also helps in reviews and the channel, thank you
Good job keeping it real. I think negative reviews are more important than positive. You can't improve if you think you''re always doing a great job. PS keep your wife's knife if you know what is good for you.
Imo the Waypoint is amazing in almost every way, but $300 is hard to swallow with them. I'm glad they started making G10 versions although not much cheaper.
i think these are made in taiwan actually which isnt the u.s and i would prefer to pay less then what they ask for these but still better than chinese manufacturing as i understand it
And yes! - the knife making companies really need to wake up and only put thick ground blades on knives where it makes sense. That can't be said often enough. Knives with thin edges are still an exception rather than rule. 10 years ago Spyderco brought the Gayle Bradley folder - a heavy user - that has edge as thick as the Waypoint. I have not heard of anyone snapping it in use. And that is why I got one off the bay (incoming in a few days, super excited). Or the Microtech LUDT. Super thin edge on a hard working knife too.
So true! There's a ton of hard use knives at 10 to 15 thou bte that ive never seen broken, and theres ways to keep spine strength while keeping the life of a knife with great geometry and thinness bte the GB is a fantastic user one of the best
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I don't think they are ashamed of who makes it. I think they have a OEM that may be small and they don't want other companies poaching their production capacity.
Possibly
That is my understanding as well.
A grail knife of mine. Along with the WE Synergy 2 tanto and the A.Purvis Xerx. My holy trinity of knives atm. Honorable mention to the PM 2 tanto.
What do you like better drift way Point or Rockwall thumbstud trying to decide on one
Thanks for this helpful review. I like the design of this knife, and its elegantly simple visual appeal. I also like the idea of Vanax being ultra corrosion resistant. It would be a bit hard though to accept having to deal with issues of a potentially burnt edge, lock rock (what’s up with the loose fitting stop pin?), and screws that may be prone to stripping on a $300 knife. You’ve done a great service as far as I am concerned.
Thank you
Waypoint is my favorite knife,.i must say that first 😀.
About that thay are done in cnc....well, all factory and mid tech knives are made by cnc, Hinderer, Chris reeve are way expensive than the waypoint and they definitely use cheaper steel than the vanax. Some titanium spydercos, and a lot Benchmades are close in price, but with cheaper materials.
Trm are 100 less, but without titanium and vanax 🙂.
The pivot looks like a torx + as opposed to a standard torx. Which would account for the loose fit.
@ Jack Nemo your right I just looked at mine and they are definitely Torx Plus Drive screws. “Good eyes” to catch that on screen. 👍🏼
The other one fit perfectly, but it seems like the torque i have just a little slop it worked fine just a little sloppy but you might be right idk
I middle finger flick mine 90% of the time, but I have to use the top of my finger nail and it rockets out. The Waypoint is definitely one of my favorite knives this year, but I agree that a full size would be awesome. Their actually made in Taiwan not China.
“Great review I’m checking all my screws now lol”
Really! Man well guess i messed that up 😆 , someone else just said the same tthing happened with there screws and the replacement borokee
@@NeevesKnives we all do lol, but google Torques Plus System screws and you can see that the start pattern is different they are more round at the points of the star and regular Torx are more like a star. I just ordered a set of the “Torx Plus Bits”.
@@JJ-lu6mg ok ok thanks bud
Hey jerad between this or the tactile rockwall what is a better choice I'm leaning towards this but would like another opinion. Thanks for the review and hope to hear back from you
That's tough, as a tool this one, the action is better on the Tactile though, way better
This or the Drift? 3.31" vs 2.98" blade. Will be my 1 and done knife for everything.
Neither the Quiet CARRY Large, or the new drift with the studs
Jared, idk if it matters, some guy named nick shabas says quiet carry told him they are MFG in Taiwan. Heat treated in US. It’s interesting but at 3 bills..that’s a no for me dogg.
Yeah I've done a follow up video on this knife a long term update, which I'm alot happier about now and love the knife, it is expensive but considering what your getting I don't think it's out of line, almost no companies are using vanax because it's so expensive, and a knife that's completely corrosion proof is a great asset. But to each there own there's a lot of other great knives
If I’m not mistaken these are around $300 and this is what you are getting? I say, nice working with you dr Jones
Looks like a great knife. Compact but not too small. Simple but elegant. Love the wire clip.
I love mine. I got it on first production run. I didn't have a problem with the edge, rear screw or lock rock. I wonder if the lock rock is somehow related to that missing screw.
No the missing screw is just for the lanyard pin, but i to love the knife and if i cant deal with it myself im sure the company will deal with the issue
@@NeevesKnives There isn't another screw on that end holding the scales to the back spacer.
@@JohnC29 yes im sorry, i dont think thats why but its very possible i guess i can take one off the other knife as long as it fits and see if it helps thanks bud
@@NeevesKnives I have a first production run as well, had it now for approx 9 months. I freehand sharpen as well and because I'm OCD, within the first hour I'm putting my own edge on the knife, that's the joy in it for me. The small stop pin didn't give me any problems with play initially but, it did eventually show up. It's minimal but still frustrating. I will say that the corrosion resistance is legit, along with several other "rust proof" knives this one went on multiple offshore fishing trips that were as long as three days. I cut bait and line and rinsed in nothing but cobalt blue salt water. Not a spot of rust on the blade, the lc200n parts did show some rust coloring but easily wiped clean. I love this knife, absolutely one of my favorites, maybe I'll contact QC and try to get a replacement pin, just picked up the new drift , can't wait to see how it performs in comparison to its skinny sibling. Long comment,damn! Great review!
@@trentsapp731 thats awesome!! Yeah definitely get ahold of them im sure they will fix it up and take care of it, which do you like more drift or wp
They’re made in Taiwan. Info directly from owner.
Edit...Oops. I see others chimed in already sorry for being redundant
No prob, they sent me a new pin for it and the rock is still present so im going to send it to them to fix just a headsup on what happened after
Will you review the Waypoint LC?
What impresses u more an expensive knife say 200 and up that it does what u paid 4 it 2 do looks awesome or a budget knife say $50 and under that performs just as well
Aw man thats tough, because a 200$ done right is going to have better materials, and a budget knife done right will have budget materials i would have to say the 200 knife but theres knives at 50$ that i would use over a knife that is 200
Excellent review, thank you! If you ever get ahold of a QC Drift, it would make for an interesting comparison. The new Drift has studs and is really flicky. Similar to the Waypoint but different ergos, frame lock, finger choil, and flat grind.
Another question, do you lubricate these knives? They have the bronze washers but they are not really load bearing. If they need to be lubricated then you may need to lubricate it again if you rinsed it after a marine environment.
Personally I’d have a dedicated straight knife for the marine environment, ie a fishing knife.
I personally do, it's not going to require it as much as most for corrosion but is still good for keeping good smooth action, although washers can stay extremely smooth without adding anything all the time. The detent ball will want oil from time to time though
Hi Jerad, I want to buy this knife, seems like some QC issues esp at this price? Also I don't normally like satin blades....what blade looks better on this knife SW or Satin?
I’m super late to this party and to your question but I like the stonewashed blades on the Waypoint and Drift. Goes well with a stonewashed or knurled handle. Got satin on The Nine because that was available and while it is beautiful, the first scratch will hurt my soul
Great review Jerad. My favorite knife channel by far! Keep up the hard grind. 🤟
Thanks bud
Thanks for the honest feedback. Too many reviews claim this knife as ‘perfect’. Clear it’s still a good knife, but also some points for improvement that you clearly point out.
Definitely needs some improvements but its still a great knife
Great review! I actually had a similar experience with the factory edge. After sharpening on my KME the edge retention seems much better. Curious, what angle and grit did you sharpen yours at? I know some steels perform better with finer grits, and others perform better with toothier grits. Or maybe you still need to play with Vanax some more to reach a solid conclusion on that...
I definitely need to keep playing around with the steel but this one was sharpened around 17 to 19° i freehand so im not a hundred percent but its around there
Love my waypoint its the optimal secondary to my shf or my zt0640 or my xm 18 harpoon spanto....
Fantastic secondary
I love the look of this knife, I don’t know anything but is the corrosion resistance blade traded off against the hardness and the ability to retain an edge?
I recently looked at a tungsten carbide blade with the red handle which doesn’t contain any iron at all.
It actually holds an edge very well, as good as m390 imo, usually toughness is a huge trade off with edge retention although we have some amazing steels, but getting all 3 is the hard part edge retention strength and corrosion resistance, while one goes up one goes down but again we have some incredible steels out there that do have a good ratio, and steels like vanax are insanely good, also magnacut is sweeping the community right now
One of the biggest things with me is ease of carry. I like narrow knives,, light for their size and good blade/handle ratio. That design is perfect for me but after hearing about the problems on two different knives, I’m no longer interested. Once every few months or before I carry a knife I always check the screws with just a torx head from my BM blue box. It’s a POS but good for checking screw tightness. If a knife gets used hard the more of a chance of a screw loosening. It’s always worth the 30 seconds to check.
Definitely always good to check your hardware, i check often these screws are very short since the knife is so thin, so it doesnt take much, i do love the knife, and im sure anything i cant deal with the company will
My Waypoint has "lock rock" and seems to be getting worse as time goes on. Did they fix your waypoint when you sent it back to them?
Im sending it in they sent me the pin and said to send it in if it doesnt go away so im going to
I’ll take a blade of great tool steel over great stainless any day. Performance, to me, is paramount and I’m not willing to sacrifice, hardness, edge retention, wear resistance, or toughness for corrosion resistance. I’ve not seen any stainless that can take the same degree of aggressive and persistent edge that a great tool steel can. The stainless steels that are hard enough to compete in edge retention are chippy and harder to sharpen/strop back to excellence, IME. If I’m spending premium dollars on a blade, I’m generally looking for K390, M4, CruWear, or Maxamet.
If the parts weren’t manufactured in China, then how much would it be? “Glass half empty, glass half full”
From what I’ve read, blade it treated at Peter’s something and people say he’s good. And the knife is assembled in the US
Might get the g10 version
Probably the same, i mean trm makes knives for 100 cheaper in the usa with similar tolerances, but idk im just speculating, they own thrre own machines and come in small batches though, and someone said its taiwan not china i guess
@@NeevesKnives I guess it’s cost of materials then. Titanium scales, LC200N liner lock, and zanax blade. Pls don’t get me wrong, I’m not here to argue any opinions, just thinking out loud and maybe sharing a thought or 2.
@@tariqkamil7853 no not at all and i agree for the most part, but to mu knowledge thats one reason they outsource is to bring the cost down, and i could be completely wrong, and it could be a few things that im not even considering, im kind of thinking out loud myself, and thats why when i said the price that i would think wasnt that much cheaper, and its just a thought, as i said ive handled plenty of knives that cost more for less
I have just checked the screws on my Waypoint and lo and behold - the pocket clip screws and pivot appear to be perfectly normal and well fitting T8, but the lanyard hole insert (which was loose!!) behaves like your pivot screw - T8 is way too loose, T9 does not fit. I am not sure what is going on here. I will need to check with a magnifier to make sure that the lanyard one is not simply damaged, but I will be contacting QC about this.
I went on their site and it says t8, they ard sending me a new screw and pin which i think will fix my issue
@@NeevesKnives awesome, please let us know once it arrives 👍
Good review. I think you could use a bit more of an organized format to the review, but I found a lot of good info. Nice job. If you care about criticism- I'd say lay out your review, make it tighter and shorter. Otherwise, ignore me. Either way- very good review!
I always appreciate constructive criticism so thank you 🙏 my more recent reviews are different then they used to be, way better imo than in the past 👊
Great review, thanks for honest feedback. This is the first review of the waypoint that I’ve heard that has any negative feedback. I have the black DLC version and have been happy with mine. I have in my pocket today as a secondary knife to an XM-24.
I love the knife! Both knives and im hoping that they replace the pin and the rock goes away, theres so many knives that get so much wrong this one gets so much right but one has minor issues that will be dealt with so im ok with them but i still have to call it as i see or experience
@@NeevesKnives That’s why your channel is one of my favorite knife channel’s. Keep up the awesome reviews.
@@jeremydutton1827 thank you Jeremy
I just won one of these tonight, & your review is so thorough & specific, I feel I've learned more about it from you then any other video, maybe even combined. Thanks for being so detailed in your descriptions! Subbed! 😃
Thank you i appreciate the comments and the sub, great knife im actually waiting now for the pin and screw to arrive, i think that will take the rock out so it will be back to solid, i also have a sharpening video on this knife if it helps at all linked in the description
You give the best and honest reviews.
Your description of the knife pretty much reflects my (limited) experience. The edge was indeed real bad out of the box (like 400 grit at most - I looked at it under 100x microscope - those mega scratches would scare small kids). It was basically roughly ground, but not sharpened. I took mine apart (out of curiosity) and while I did not adjust anything, the pivot keeps unscrewing withing few dozens flips, so some Loctite is a must.
As someone that tends towards dry skin (especially in winter), I find the knife just a bit too slippery when closing/opening and that made me think of getting the G10 version and sell this one. Not sure. But I really, really like the blade and the whole design.
What worries me is the level of support (like your lost pin) we can expect. When trying to communicate with QC the answers take quite a while and are cut short. Plus there is not other 'community' kind of support (like a company-run FB group - compare to e.g. TRM).
Mine does not have any lock rock, the stop pin is as loose as yours. But the lock bar on mine seems to have a lot of tension, the knife gives more resistance as I would expect (and I played with the pivot screw quite a bit)
BTW, to my knowledge these are outsourced to Taiwan. I saw that mentioned in one of the existing reviews (not really sure which one, I saw them all before I ordered the knife).
Yeah im hoping after i get a new screw and pin the rock will go away, im contacting them to replace it still no answer, and i love the knife but small improvements would be nice the screws are very shallow and have small threads, but either way i love the knife and happy to have it hopefully they replace the pin quickly
I'm considering one. Gotta do a little saving. Good review sir!
I thought they were made by the same factory in Taiwan that makes the Drop Quiet Carry IQ and CRKT Ruger LCK.
Someone said they were made in Taiwan, but im not sure about the others or who the factory is
They’re made in Taiwan and USA. It’s on their website.
Yup, wasn't sure when I made this video and I don't think the info was as available. But I honestly can't remember
I had the exact same issue with the lanyard tube falling out. They sent me a replacement tube and two replacement screws. Both heads of the screw broke off when trying to put them in. I did not put any torque on them. Their tolerances are pretty poor.
Wow! I might contact them for another tube hopefully all is good
@@NeevesKnives I decided to return the knife as I couldn't accept these flaws from a $300 knife. Yeah, they use an exotic super steel, and yeah, the liner lock is LC200N, and yeah, it's rust proof, but they can't get tolerances right for a lanyard holder and their screws are unreliable. You also mention how their pivot screw has poor tolerances. I think CedricAda also mentions how his screws show wear after just disassembling his knife. I would not trust using this knife in the water which I was intending to do. It cuts like a dream, sure but so can other knives without me worrying about if my knife is going to come apart. I'm kind of disappointed how so many reviewers had this knife at the top of their lists for knife of the year 2020. I'm glad you use your knives before putting out a review so that you can point out these flaws. You've gained a loyal subscriber.
@@Jim00000 thank you Jay! And i have felt the same way many times even getting the same exact knife that was passed and lost a lot of faith in certain reviewers opinions, im hoping that after using lock tight i dont have that issue or that it doesnt continue, thank you for commenting your experience, since i read every single comment I love hearing the communities opinion and or experience which also helps in reviews and the channel, thank you
Good job keeping it real. I think negative reviews are more important than positive. You can't improve if you think you''re always doing a great job. PS keep your wife's knife if you know what is good for you.
Always wanted one of those. Shame to hear about the edge retention. They are good looking edc knives. Thanks for sharing them.
After sharpening the retention is far better which happens to many production knives
Seems like a good design just maybe a little better qc especially for the price. Great review 👍
I talked to them and they are sending me the pin which i think will fix the issue
Imo the Waypoint is amazing in almost every way, but $300 is hard to swallow with them. I'm glad they started making G10 versions although not much cheaper.
Yeah theres some improvements id like to see even though i love it so much im contacting them to help with some of my issues
i think these are made in taiwan actually which isnt the u.s and i would prefer to pay less then what they ask for these but still better than chinese manufacturing as i understand it
Thanks for the honest review 👍 👍👏
The quality is just not top tier. What attracts me is the steel used in this knife nothing else.
Love my waypoint.. great review
And yes! - the knife making companies really need to wake up and only put thick ground blades on knives where it makes sense. That can't be said often enough. Knives with thin edges are still an exception rather than rule. 10 years ago Spyderco brought the Gayle Bradley folder - a heavy user - that has edge as thick as the Waypoint. I have not heard of anyone snapping it in use. And that is why I got one off the bay (incoming in a few days, super excited). Or the Microtech LUDT. Super thin edge on a hard working knife too.
So true! There's a ton of hard use knives at 10 to 15 thou bte that ive never seen broken, and theres ways to keep spine strength while keeping the life of a knife with great geometry and thinness bte the GB is a fantastic user one of the best
This Knife is sick
After a couple of weeks of flicking this knife open, I now close it and run my fingers over the perfectly flat and smooth titanium handle.
I've definitely tuned mine better than it once was I'm very happy with mine now
Their knives are outsourced to Taiwan, not China.
Yeah i messed up thank you though i appreciate you taking the time to comment and help inform me, i dont always get everything right
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Good. I wait for love from you 💝💖