After I created the video, we corrected the lock line logic. ONLY flight members should provide lock lines, not the player ownship. Also, to make more clear: RWS contacts are uncorrelated because they lack tracking precision, whereas TWS contacts are correlated because of much more precise tracking information. This also changed in the release version. Thanks
We have been having problems with Data link in f-16 Multiplayer. The data link works I can see friendly and then all of a sudden it all vanishes nothing touched yet it all goes away please tell me this is a bug?
Im doing the pre made missions for the viper and i flip all the right switches but my ai flight members, and actually no information other than what my radar sees comes up
I had also no idea what he meant with "must be french", but then I read the book "Viper Pilot: A Memoir Of Air Combat" written by former USAF Fighter Pilot Dan Hampton. I just think Cap also read this book before he made this "exceptionnel" tutorial... :) The quotes from the book: Page 54 in terms of Iraqi Air Defense: "One of the most dangerous systems was the ROLAND, which the French were good enough to sell to anybody with cash. The French have been lousy warriors since Napoleon died, but they did make good equipment." Page 137 im terms of Red Flag training @ Nellis: "All the NATO air forces attend if they can afford it, and occasionally you can see Israelis and some of the Arab nations, like Egypt or Morocco. Even the French show up occasionally, when they can find it." Page 145 in terms of an integrated Air Defense System called KARI: "There were several problems with this. KARI was designed by the French who, though first-class vintners, are usually hopeless as warriors. Ask the Germans or the Vietnamese or the Algerians." Page 182 in terms of the second Gulf war: "Chances are, when your nation is attacked, you'll forget about everything else but defending your country and your family. Unless, of course, you're French. Then you surrender and eat cheese. (Good cheese, I must say.)" Page 227 in terms of the Iraqi Republican Guards as Saddam's elite force: "They were an elite compared to the other Iraqis - or Iranians or the French - but certainly not to us."
which manual? I got the latest one available on the ED website but couldn't find the mentioned sections in it. I’m referring to the symbols shown on the hsd
@SaltinbanK Le Saltimbanque The point of the f-35 is that it won't ever get into a dogfight with a Rafale. The Rafale is dead before he even knew the F-35 was there ;)
we got the dotted lines to work by putting all the jets in the same flight.Enfield 1-1/1-2/1-3 etc.In mission editor we added f16 1 of 1 2 3 4 and it worked.
in tws, i have all 3 targets corrolated (red full triangle), but i cant press tws RIGHT to cycle through them, as a bugged target. what am i doing wrong?
Well the problem is, that with datalink on, i can no longer distinguish between track target and system target, so when i'm in TWS and i'm selecting important targets, i cannot see which is already selected and which not. Frustrating. I always turn the datalink off for a fight.
Trank you for this series. Probably the best out there. But I still have a problem with the data link. I can’t get any data picture on the HSD. I only see the waypoints and my radar range, that’s it. Even when I got a radar track it doesn’t appear on the HSD. I put on the switch on the right console and I thought that’s enough. Got any idea?
On the Hoggitworld page for the F-16 it says you can use the Communication Hat to transmit your current Air-to-Ground target over the datalink... has anyone been able to get this to work in the current build?
6:51 - HAHAHAHAHA ...OMG! I laugh so much, my coffee mug fell off my hand..... Didn't see that coming ... lolmao....two hours later still laughing hence my comment ....
New video idea: hey there! can you make a video about mid air refueling while flying upside-down (this may seem stupid IRL but in a simulator where it may have not been programmed properly the refueling boom may pass through the aircraft's fuselage and connect to the refueling door) Attempt #4 btw you're pumping out a lot of videos recently just sayin...
I still cant figure how to make it work! I do my start up like you, do the alignement, turn on the mids, setting the link 16 on my mfd and nothing... Iff work on my radar but I cant see anything on my hsd page but waypoint!
@@grimreapers yes! I think I will try on a reaper server. Maybe our server have something wrong, like our tanker unable to refuel the F 16 since last update...
@@northman77 if you did a cold start, your IFF system needs to be turned on. the panel is on the left side aft of the throttle. I would need to look for the exact panel but that is a start. the power knob should be turned to on or norm. I havent tested this but if it is off you might look like a hostile to others. they will do a 'mode 4' interrogate but your system is off and wouldnt respond.
@@dimitriskatsoulis4834 Depends on what the mission creator sets in the mission editor. There is an option "hide on MFD" for each unit. Once this is activated you wont see the specific unit on the HSD (or SA page in the Hornet). For air defense units, this means no threat ring will occur on your mfd.
The only step I'm missing is, how to get it running in the first place on manual starting the F-16. In AutoStart Mode, it works all well when aligned about 62. Manual I even let it go down to 10 until RDY is flashing in the DED. I tried with DL and MIDS on before and after alignment, with no luck so far. Up in the air its only showing me my radar contacts. I think I miss an important switch or some order of operations wich is twisted. I don't know. :/
Hey, i ahve problems setting up the DL on Servers when cold start. I just see my Waypoints but that was it, no hostile/friendly contacts, AWACS or SAMs... does anyone have an idea?
You have to align your aircraft completely before you turn on mids. Once you turn on nav to norm, then turn on mids.. then on the right panel turn on xemit to L16 (link16) th-cam.com/video/ynVslvvehB8/w-d-xo.html this video should help with the alignment
Hmm. I´m playing F-16 "The balkans campaing". There I have put on "unrestrictred satnav". The datalink "sync" is "fine". But those time settings are all on off, and not any time shown in there. Still it seems to be working. What does this mean. And what happens if I put i them on? (dont see any change, but I´m really a noob with what comes to f-16 itself so...) What does this mean? Is it just correlated to mission itself? (does btw that satnav include also datalink stuff?)
Must. Be French... LOL I wonder is it sometimes typical for a fighter flight to have no awacs or ground radar support? Like a leading edge flight? That then have to make they’re own way through the muck
Every time I start that mission, my aircraft gets blown off it's wheels by the wake turbulence from the F15's taking off...which is not overly convenient.
@@Pricklyhedgehog72 yeah that mission pissed me off. I kept setting my ins to align and waiting for it and hitting the time accelerate keys a couple times and went up to get a beer and I heard my f16 blow up before I got back.
@@grimreapers Im asking because I dont know if F16 ever could do that. I know JA37 Viggen could do it with its fighter to fighter data link so I figured by now the F16 should be able to do it also. Would be fancy though…
Using the word "angels" to describe altitude as often as you did here is pedantic. Using that word to describe the altitude of hostile aircraft is just plain wrong. 'Angels' is the brevity used to describe friendly aircraft.
Update HSD video with new features: th-cam.com/video/jh7-oM-SsYA/w-d-xo.html
After I created the video, we corrected the lock line logic. ONLY flight members should provide lock lines, not the player ownship. Also, to make more clear: RWS contacts are uncorrelated because they lack tracking precision, whereas TWS contacts are correlated because of much more precise tracking information. This also changed in the release version. Thanks
thx
Also, there is a HOTAS command to allow the pilot to filter DL data on the FCR. We plan to include this. Thanks
We have been having problems with Data link in f-16 Multiplayer. The data link works I can see friendly and then all of a sudden it all vanishes nothing touched yet it all goes away please tell me this is a bug?
We have AWAC all around the server full coverage but the data link just vanishes and I haven't even bothered using it
Im doing the pre made missions for the viper and i flip all the right switches but my ai flight members, and actually no information other than what my radar sees comes up
"that guy is on the run I don't know why, he must be French" XD merci!
LOL I JUST LAUGHED SO HARD WHEN HE SAID THAT :)
ROFL
I laughed soo hard at that!! 😆😆😆
Ce n'est qu'un au revoir 😁
That’s a pain in the ass for ze french community xD (rip nous)
„F15 on the run must be french.“…my german smile is there😆😁
I had also no idea what he meant with "must be french", but then I read the book "Viper Pilot: A Memoir Of Air Combat" written by former USAF Fighter Pilot Dan Hampton.
I just think Cap also read this book before he made this "exceptionnel" tutorial... :)
The quotes from the book:
Page 54 in terms of Iraqi Air Defense: "One of the most dangerous systems was the ROLAND, which the French were good enough to sell to anybody with cash. The French have been lousy warriors since Napoleon died, but they did make good equipment."
Page 137 im terms of Red Flag training @ Nellis: "All the NATO air forces attend if they can afford it, and occasionally you can see Israelis and some of the Arab nations, like Egypt or Morocco. Even the French show up occasionally, when they can find it."
Page 145 in terms of an integrated Air Defense System called KARI: "There were several problems with this. KARI was designed by the French who, though first-class vintners, are usually hopeless as warriors. Ask the Germans or the Vietnamese or the Algerians."
Page 182 in terms of the second Gulf war: "Chances are, when your nation is attacked, you'll forget about everything else but defending your country and your family. Unless, of course, you're French. Then you surrender and eat cheese. (Good cheese, I must say.)"
Page 227 in terms of the Iraqi Republican Guards as Saddam's elite force: "They were an elite compared to the other Iraqis - or Iranians or the French - but certainly not to us."
Thanks Gel!
Showing the section of the manual is a good idea.
which manual? I got the latest one available on the ED website but couldn't find the mentioned sections in it. I’m referring to the symbols shown on the hsd
6:47 "The F-15 is on the run for some reason...don't know why...must be French" lmao never change Cap
I find it weird that people mock the french considering they have been the country with most wars won
😂 Hahaha
because in World wars u guys were always retreating
the fuck did I start?
@SaltinbanK Le Saltimbanque The point of the f-35 is that it won't ever get into a dogfight with a Rafale. The Rafale is dead before he even knew the F-35 was there ;)
The french F-15 had me laughing hard, thanks for the explanation :D
we got the dotted lines to work by putting all the jets in the same flight.Enfield 1-1/1-2/1-3 etc.In mission editor we added f16 1 of 1 2 3 4 and it worked.
thx
Thanks CAP. Great explanation as usual.
thanks Cap, your tutorials are awesome and easy to understand
“Must be French.” - lol
in tws, i have all 3 targets corrolated (red full triangle), but i cant press tws RIGHT to cycle through them, as a bugged target. what am i doing wrong?
Well the problem is, that with datalink on, i can no longer distinguish between track target and system target, so when i'm in TWS and i'm selecting important targets, i cannot see which is already selected and which not. Frustrating. I always turn the datalink off for a fight.
merci Grim
de nous traiter de débiles ? ^^
bonne journée
Trank you for this series. Probably the best out there.
But I still have a problem with the data link. I can’t get any data picture on the HSD. I only see the waypoints and my radar range, that’s it. Even when I got a radar track it doesn’t appear on the HSD.
I put on the switch on the right console and I thought that’s enough. Got any idea?
On the Hoggitworld page for the F-16 it says you can use the Communication Hat to transmit your current Air-to-Ground target over the datalink... has anyone been able to get this to work in the current build?
I have no wingman data link in create fast missions or mission editor missions.
6:51 - HAHAHAHAHA ...OMG! I laugh so much, my coffee mug fell off my hand..... Didn't see that coming ... lolmao....two hours later still laughing hence my comment ....
New video idea:
hey there! can you make a video about mid air refueling while flying upside-down (this may seem stupid IRL but in a simulator where it may have not been programmed properly the refueling boom may pass through the aircraft's fuselage and connect to the refueling door)
Attempt #4
btw you're pumping out a lot of videos recently just sayin...
I still cant figure how to make it work! I do my start up like you, do the alignement, turn on the mids, setting the link 16 on my mfd and nothing... Iff work on my radar but I cant see anything on my hsd page but waypoint!
U have a working AWACS in mission yes?
@@grimreapers yes! I think I will try on a reaper server. Maybe our server have something wrong, like our tanker unable to refuel the F 16 since last update...
@@northman77 if you did a cold start, your IFF system needs to be turned on. the panel is on the left side aft of the throttle. I would need to look for the exact panel but that is a start. the power knob should be turned to on or norm. I havent tested this but if it is off you might look like a hostile to others. they will do a 'mode 4' interrogate but your system is off and wouldnt respond.
Can you upload the symbol files or the full course for the Link -16 system for A/C F-16?
Those looking for the manual will find it here, seemed to be a lot of requests: srv0files.eagle.ru/dcs/manuals/DCS-F-16C_Early_Access_Guide_EN.pdf
thx
It seems that manual is outdated, you can see the latest from your installed game directory here "..\Eagle Dynamics\DCS World\Mods\aircraft\F-16C\Doc"
👋 So the Datalink is only useful in combat? Does it have to be pre-loaded before take-off?
No, just turn it on.
@@grimreapers ok, maybe AWACS will take care of it 😅
Very nice video! One question: how can you enable the Lethal Weapon Range circles on the HSD? Thank you!
Should be automatic.
@@grimreapers To be honest it never shows on my HSD and I am curious to know why... Any help will be greatly appreciated!
@@dimitriskatsoulis4834 Depends on what the mission creator sets in the mission editor. There is an option "hide on MFD" for each unit. Once this is activated you wont see the specific unit on the HSD (or SA page in the Hornet). For air defense units, this means no threat ring will occur on your mfd.
The only step I'm missing is, how to get it running in the first place on manual starting the F-16. In AutoStart Mode, it works all well when aligned about 62. Manual I even let it go down to 10 until RDY is flashing in the DED. I tried with DL and MIDS on before and after alignment, with no luck so far. Up in the air its only showing me my radar contacts. I think I miss an important switch or some order of operations wich is twisted. I don't know. :/
Should work fine, I know if any other probs: th-cam.com/video/ywU8HmJT1vw/w-d-xo.html
Finally straight to the point. S!
Hey, i ahve problems setting up the DL on Servers when cold start. I just see my Waypoints but that was it, no hostile/friendly contacts, AWACS or SAMs... does anyone have an idea?
How do you set up datalink with AWACS?
upvoted this since information available is so scarce it's actually frustrating
You have to align your aircraft completely before you turn on mids. Once you turn on nav to norm, then turn on mids.. then on the right panel turn on xemit to L16 (link16) th-cam.com/video/ynVslvvehB8/w-d-xo.html this video should help with the alignment
Yourè unable to recieve and transmit bugged target information becouse oure in XMT OFF mode. you have to turn on your Link 16 functionality. (L16)
Hmm. I´m playing F-16 "The balkans campaing". There I have put on "unrestrictred satnav". The datalink "sync" is "fine". But those time settings are all on off, and not any time shown in there. Still it seems to be working. What does this mean. And what happens if I put i them on? (dont see any change, but I´m really a noob with what comes to f-16 itself so...) What does this mean? Is it just correlated to mission itself? (does btw that satnav include also datalink stuff?)
OH, and BTW just for notice ALSO the Time reference (NTR) is "off". The plane itself stats hot on ramp (in these missions I used as an example..)
hey cap nice video as always, where i can find the manual that you r using for this video? saludos desde Uruguay
In your f16c folder there is a Doc folder and its in there
search "grim reapers where manual"
I just bought the F16 from the website and installed in module... I seem to not have this functionality... do i need to update?
Strange. Are you using stable or Open Beta version?
@@grimreapers i use open beta i think...
Must. Be French... LOL
I wonder is it sometimes typical for a fighter flight to have no awacs or ground radar support? Like a leading edge flight? That then have to make they’re own way through the muck
Are these features also available in multiplayer?
Flanker should have been able to do this, any word on that?
ya we tried this all in MP
Is it possible to setup a flight in DL with a viper and hornet?
Not in a flight neg. Not in game anyway.
@@grimreapers appreciate it. Nuts!
06:47 Realy? Right in front of my baguette?!
Does the linked mission file still work with 2.5.6?
Should do.
Go to missions --->F16--->Mission 6 night--->and tell me why the datalink is drunk in this mission lol
Every time I start that mission, my aircraft gets blown off it's wheels by the wake turbulence from the F15's taking off...which is not overly convenient.
@@Pricklyhedgehog72 if you slow down when you taxi the other f16 will crash on you from behind like the grim reapers in the videos lol
@@Pricklyhedgehog72 yeah that mission pissed me off. I kept setting my ins to align and waiting for it and hitting the time accelerate keys a couple times and went up to get a beer and I heard my f16 blow up before I got back.
@@arguywindham1101 yeah it's clearly a bug...
Daabaaa
Bro talks about France but never heard of Operation Dynamo
LMFAO!!!!! He must be French. Love the English. So Posh
So is it finally possible to fire Amraams with your own radar turned off?
neg
don't think so anyway...?
@@grimreapers Im asking because I dont know if F16 ever could do that. I know JA37 Viggen could do it with its fighter to fighter data link so I figured by now the F16 should be able to do it also. Would be fancy though…
How can I found the f16 manual?
search "grim reapers where manual"
are you sure this "FR" stands for "Friendlies" and not for "French"? :D
lol
I cant make it work :(
please share the notes pdf as well
Lol! I thought only the Americans made fun of the French military acumen. Do the brits do this too? Lol!
Jerry LaGrou the Americans learnt it from us brits. 😂😂 we’ve been doing it for hundreds of years 🤣🤣
[GR] Obi You’re right. When a joke works, don’t brexit.. oh, sorry...🤣🤣🤣
andromedius 🤣🤣🤣🤣👍
[GR] Obi Thanks for your sense of humor! You’re awesome!👍
Hello!
Using the word "angels" to describe altitude as often as you did here is pedantic. Using that word to describe the altitude of hostile aircraft is just plain wrong. 'Angels' is the brevity used to describe friendly aircraft.