The one Advantage she has over Astarte in Farming, her NP Animation is the fastest of the Arts Looper so that would be a Time Saver. That Defense Down really should've been Pre Damage if they really want to lean on the Debuff DPS
You can substitute kscope with imaginary element for support Stheno since she has a 28% battery. That'll free up 3 whole cost points to the party setup.
Her regular attack animations are amazing, I'll definitely try to get myself a copy. I love Kama, but I really prefer her assassin version. I've been more than fine with my current loopers so there's no need to go for broke, thankfully. (un)Fun fact: getting a single copy of Kama in the first first Ooku event took 1700 of my patiently saved SQ, it's by far the most a servant ever took me to summon.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO In all seriousness great guide. To note: thanks to her high damage you can sometimes get away with not using her NP buff on W1/2 (less so the less NP copies you have). And yes to her nuking multiple bosses on the field - she shreds Teslafest. Looking forward to doing that myself.
5:39 I’m late to the convo but I would also like to add that you can run OG Kama and use her battery skill since it decreases enemy debuff resistance and you can use OG Kama and boost overcharge for summer Kama = more damage on charmed enemies
I've been using Summer Kama for a while and she surprises me every day. AoE Charm is really nice and her damage is very good. I'm a Sakura enthusiast so I got NP3, but my Space Ishtar is also NP3 so she'll get as much investment at some point because I love Rin
Speaking of Plug Suit charming servants... Surprised not to have Summer Medb mentioned. AOE Charm (although only 60%), it also gives 20% Arts Resist Down and +20% Attack.
I’ll put all my efforts on her banner when summer comes around but if I don’t get her it’s not a big miss since I can look forward to Summer Ibuki and proto Merlin as my main goals for 2024.
as somebody who actually has summer kama, you dont have to worry about not killing the first 2 waves when farming without the second kill, especially if your using double castoria.
All these criteria on if I should pull her or not, look if I get all the gold Servants from the from the banner before then I am getting Kama, I don't care if I already have Spishtar and Zerksashi and am going for Zerker Ibuki, I ain't about to pass up on getting Kama and her parrot into my Chaldea.
From where I stand: yes, because she's Kama, and Kama is Sakuraface, and one of the best at that. I like Rin just fine, but I only ever went after the one copy of Spishtar because I knew one day this day would come. I just didn't expect Fino to make a video about her this early!
I got np2 Musashi and Spishtar so I'm either gonna go for Melusine or just wait for Koyanskaya since she makes a huge chunk of my servants go from good to great
I have both Kama and Kiara Summer in JP, both NP1 MLB BG and the damage Wave 3 is pretty similar so much I will go for a NP2 Kama because I have NP2 Kiara in NA.
Got Spishtar to np2 so its hard to justify the investment where summer Ibuki comes the following year. We got Oberon, buster support fox and Jacques also coming this year so its a tough year for f2p who already have an aoe arts looper
At this point might as well NP3 Spishtar and forget about farming meta. As long as Spishtar does enough dmg, it doesn’t matter if other units are stronger
@@gaiusx287Explain to me how are you going to 3t with space ishtar if the 90++ nodes have 1 or 2 enemies waves? It doesn't matter if Space Ishtar have enough damage or not
@@Usagiiii12 well then, that's no longer a NP2-NP3 Space Ishtar vs Summer Ibuki question - if you wanna deal with with 1 enemy waves, invest in your Vlad lol.
@@Usagiiii12 In 90++ 1-1-1? I don't think NP1 Melusine is enough. Do you mean higher NP Level? At the same NP level, Vlad would do better in this scenario I believe, but it's crazy that that Melusine can compete while being AOE. Godjuna too
I was able to bond 10 Space Ishtar just recently, so I am considering on rolling for Summer Kama. She’s really tempting to roll for due to her beautiful design and arts loop, but there are so many good servants coming out this year.
funnily enough i have both smusashi and spishtar on np2 pretty much unintentionally. geting summer kama np2 would be hilarious but i probably will burn my all quartz on th morgan banner beforehand
I got np3 summer Kiara by dumb luck from the summer camp event and np1 space Ishtar from the rerun we recently just got so I solid if I can't summer Kama.
I'll try to get a copy for the pokedex, but as someone that doesn't have unlimited money to throw at it (just more than I should) the flexibility of Spishtar (and the fact I already have her at NP4) wins out easily. But thank you for the guide!~
I personally don't care how she sizes up to spishtar, who i've gotten to bond 11 (only np1 tho), the moment summer kama releases, I'm going the whole 9 yards for np6/7, for all appends level 120. Maybe not all at once, but it's certainly my end goal with her. I have chosen whom to simp for and I will not stop even if I go broke.
I dunno. Feels like to much work to make her loop compare to more universal solution like Summer Musashi who has better and much usefull skill kit overall.
If sq is not a problem I'd get her atleast np2 But yeah I manage to np3 spishtar from the 6th anniversary luckysummon. And somehow I also got Morgan NP5 fairly easily with Np2 koyan and np1 oberon Not to mention np2 muramasa, np1 zerk sashi who van also farm 😅 Anything at this point os just rolling for waifu. But id like np2 for sure.
I do believe this is wrong, on the np damage calculator from Google I plugged in a level 90 Np 2 Spishtar with the following buffs from Castoria, Spishtar, and Oberon + BG. 120 Arts buff, 70 attack buff, and 320 Np buff and the average damage is 300,730. While I plugged in S.Kama with the following buffs from Castoria and Oberon at level 90 Np 2. 130 arts buff, 40 attack, 220 Np buff, and 50 np extra damage and got a average damage of 310,006. Which is 9,276 more damage than Spishtar. So unless I/the calculator did the calculations wrong S.Kama with Castoria and Oberon beats damage from Spishtar with Castoria and Oberon.
But what if, now hear me out, even though I have NP2 Space Ishtar, I roll for NP2 Summer Kama because she's hot? Huh? Huh?~ Not too bad of an idea, right?!
i have an np2 spishtar and a np3 summer musashi but i love kama with a passion so i’m gonna try to get np2 when she releases bht i don’t know if the gacha gods will be kind
The strongest Arts looper is the one you have at a higher NP level
My NP5 Spishtar agrees.
My NP5 lvl120 2k/2k max append Space Ishtar also agrees.
My NP5 Jason disagrees, but he is 1*.
My Np1 Muramasa begs to differ. Is much stronger than Np5 Sieg
Np5 Spishtar and the grailed Gong
Both get plenty of use from me
"It boosts your damage by a kama-cal amount"
"They need a kama-cally overpowered CE"
I will not unhear this.
Her 3rd form and final ascension are the main reason I'm probably going to try rolling for a single copy of her
Her first ascension is mine ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
when her banner will come up?
@@EotC.Friday After anniversary i think
@@tcazcunny time
If trading was a thing I'd give away my kama for a caenis
The one Advantage she has over Astarte in Farming, her NP Animation is the fastest of the Arts Looper so that would be a Time Saver. That Defense Down really should've been Pre Damage if they really want to lean on the Debuff DPS
You can substitute kscope with imaginary element for support Stheno since she has a 28% battery. That'll free up 3 whole cost points to the party setup.
Let's be real now, who even levels that skill
4:40 Woo he said the thing.
Her regular attack animations are amazing, I'll definitely try to get myself a copy. I love Kama, but I really prefer her assassin version. I've been more than fine with my current loopers so there's no need to go for broke, thankfully.
(un)Fun fact: getting a single copy of Kama in the first first Ooku event took 1700 of my patiently saved SQ, it's by far the most a servant ever took me to summon.
WOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
In all seriousness great guide.
To note: thanks to her high damage you can sometimes get away with not using her NP buff on W1/2 (less so the less NP copies you have).
And yes to her nuking multiple bosses on the field - she shreds Teslafest. Looking forward to doing that myself.
Kama Gang!
@@0killerx Coomer gang
5:39 I’m late to the convo but I would also like to add that you can run OG Kama and use her battery skill since it decreases enemy debuff resistance and you can use OG Kama and boost overcharge for summer Kama = more damage on charmed enemies
I've been using Summer Kama for a while and she surprises me every day. AoE Charm is really nice and her damage is very good. I'm a Sakura enthusiast so I got NP3, but my Space Ishtar is also NP3 so she'll get as much investment at some point because I love Rin
Always love you mentioned good ol' reliable golden sumo. Always reminds me if "everytime fino mentions golden sumo" video.
Speaking of Plug Suit charming servants... Surprised not to have Summer Medb mentioned. AOE Charm (although only 60%), it also gives 20% Arts Resist Down and +20% Attack.
NP2 gold fou'd space ishtar user here.
Rolling for Summer Kama, i am a fool but she's my favorite servant, duty calls.
I have similar/same Space Ishtar and will be doing some rolls for Kama as well.
Now we have Crazy redhead blacksmith, Tsundere gem space goddess, and Kouhai CHILD goddess all as Art loopers.
4:22 "it boosts your damage by a KAMAcal margin."
Rin is cool and all (cause twin tails tropes & all that) but, I’m a certified Sakura S I M P .
You know what, screw the Fae Knights and Morgan.
SUMMER KAMA IS NOW MY NEW PRIORITY.
I’ll put all my efforts on her banner when summer comes around but if I don’t get her it’s not a big miss since I can look forward to Summer Ibuki and proto Merlin as my main goals for 2024.
as somebody who actually has summer kama, you dont have to worry about not killing the first 2 waves when farming without the second kill, especially if your using double castoria.
I have no choice but to get her, I have every other sakura face in the game. I need to complete it
7:08 But the WINK is the reason I summon for her!!
You make a solid argument, but when I got NP5 Spishtar in under 700 SQ, I knew she was my destiny.
All these criteria on if I should pull her or not, look if I get all the gold Servants from the from the banner before then I am getting Kama, I don't care if I already have Spishtar and Zerksashi and am going for Zerker Ibuki, I ain't about to pass up on getting Kama and her parrot into my Chaldea.
Here after getting her for gssr. It was either her or Kiara i wanted since i don't even have their normal brains. I'm not disappointed
*chemist screaming to 120 in the distance*
I always appreciate the points about NP speed animations.
From where I stand: yes, because she's Kama, and Kama is Sakuraface, and one of the best at that. I like Rin just fine, but I only ever went after the one copy of Spishtar because I knew one day this day would come. I just didn't expect Fino to make a video about her this early!
S.Kama has something that SpIshtar doesn't: cultured art 🍷🗿
I got np2 Musashi and Spishtar so I'm either gonna go for Melusine or just wait for Koyanskaya since she makes a huge chunk of my servants go from good to great
I might have tried rolling for summer Kama but then Nito Alter came out, and I plan on going in hard with her.
Lucked out of NP2 Spishtar and I will be utterly BROKE during summer banners. But will still throw some SQ at her just to get NP1.
I have both Kama and Kiara Summer in JP, both NP1 MLB BG and the damage Wave 3 is pretty similar so much I will go for a NP2 Kama because I have NP2 Kiara in NA.
jokes on you i love the 1st ascension
Got Spishtar to np2 so its hard to justify the investment where summer Ibuki comes the following year.
We got Oberon, buster support fox and Jacques also coming this year so its a tough year for f2p who already have an aoe arts looper
At this point might as well NP3 Spishtar and forget about farming meta. As long as Spishtar does enough dmg, it doesn’t matter if other units are stronger
@@gaiusx287Explain to me how are you going to 3t with space ishtar if the 90++ nodes have 1 or 2 enemies waves?
It doesn't matter if Space Ishtar have enough damage or not
@@Usagiiii12 well then, that's no longer a NP2-NP3 Space Ishtar vs Summer Ibuki question - if you wanna deal with with 1 enemy waves, invest in your Vlad lol.
@@gaiusx287 Nah, Melisine with Koyan and Oberon does the job
@@Usagiiii12 In 90++ 1-1-1? I don't think NP1 Melusine is enough. Do you mean higher NP Level? At the same NP level, Vlad would do better in this scenario I believe, but it's crazy that that Melusine can compete while being AOE. Godjuna too
I have failed to get spishtar twice so kama it is for me. At least I have my summer musashi
Joke's on you Fino, I was using Kscope Stheno for years now, as a great support for Ridertoki in raids.
the only person who can compete in "NP2 and lvl100 speedrun" other than her would be og kama and kukulkan
I was able to bond 10 Space Ishtar just recently, so I am considering on rolling for Summer Kama. She’s really tempting to roll for due to her beautiful design and arts loop, but there are so many good servants coming out this year.
Summer Kama is better because she is a child.😭😭😭
Damn, bratty TH-camr. Comment Correction is needed.
@@Finotaisen i get that reference 😭
Damn Arts looper! How dare you tease your master! 😭💢💢💢
This comment right here officer
This is a certified cunny moment
I think I’ll wait for Summer Ibuki next year instead
Memeing with Stheno? Finally, a use other than rare prisms
I missed the last Spishtar banner. Might have to jump in to try for her. But I really want Summer BB more.....for reasons.😅
funnily enough i have both smusashi and spishtar on np2 pretty much unintentionally. geting summer kama np2 would be hilarious but i probably will burn my all quartz on th morgan banner beforehand
But is she better than Chad Gong?
Didn't think so
I'm waiting on Summer Ibuki when it comes to arts servants in the farming meta. Rn, I need my fairies and bunny.
Np2 Baby
I got np3 summer Kiara by dumb luck from the summer camp event and np1 space Ishtar from the rerun we recently just got so I solid if I can't summer Kama.
Suprised you didn't make mention shuten aoe charm, since it's Tammy charm, but arguably better
She gonna be goofy when we get a command code that applies charm
I have np2 musashi but I need kama for waifu reasons, a sacrifice must be made but it's fine
I might not have enough to roll for her after LB6 banners.
Or go hard for both cuz you love both just like me. :)
don't know don't care, rolling so I can have both
Got her in 6 Multis and 2 singles, and I got her on the last ROLL lol was about to give up ngl
Golden Sumo 2023
I'll try to get a copy for the pokedex, but as someone that doesn't have unlimited money to throw at it (just more than I should) the flexibility of Spishtar (and the fact I already have her at NP4) wins out easily. But thank you for the guide!~
well made and resumed video , it doesnt matter , go for who you between the 5 universal monster farmer (spishtar , kama , nitocris , ibuki , musashi)
How's summer kama in JP nowadays?
Do i rlly need another looper if i have koyonskaya, oberon and melusine? Have i unlocked easy mode and now i can pull for waifus only?
Melusine likes copies but kinda yeah(you should get castoria next may though)
@@muratticugaratti1571 niceee, yeah I wanted castoria aswell but wasn't lucky with her last banner, I'll save come sq for her
I have an NP5 Spishtar.
Automatically, Kama loses because I have to start at NP0 and LB6 is gonna be a massive pain in the ass to roll for.
kinda weird to think that pixel art thumbnails are gonna be a thing in the future
Based
I just run a np3 sumer kiria.. for reasons.
I'm only pulling okitan summer who needs another arts looper lul
i already have np2 spishtar 2 2k fous but i still want to get np2 summer kama too hahah
As much as I want summer Kama all my sq is going towards Charlotte
I personally don't care how she sizes up to spishtar, who i've gotten to bond 11 (only np1 tho), the moment summer kama releases, I'm going the whole 9 yards for np6/7, for all appends level 120. Maybe not all at once, but it's certainly my end goal with her.
I have chosen whom to simp for and I will not stop even if I go broke.
i got with NP2.... total 17+ SQ like that... i never wish to get her cuz my target is Caenis rider and Sei Berzerker... and then she pop out....
yes
I like space kama but she's not gonna replace my np3 Spishtar cause the I need to save money for koyanskaya(light) and my wife Morgan😢
Bruh you can’t be saying this when I just got NP2 Ishtar 😤
What is that moon icon on B B? I'm quite curious
I dunno. Feels like to much work to make her loop compare to more universal solution like Summer Musashi who has better and much usefull skill kit overall.
That's a weird way to spell summer Ibuki
GAMINGGG
can I loop with her with just tamamo + davinci ruler + friend castoria?
If I have np2 spishtar and np3 summer kama, which is better
Hola señor, necesitas más píxeles?
So one copy is not good enough even with grails and Oberon?
If sq is not a problem I'd get her atleast np2
But yeah I manage to np3 spishtar from the 6th anniversary luckysummon.
And somehow I also got Morgan NP5 fairly easily with Np2 koyan and np1 oberon
Not to mention np2 muramasa, np1 zerk sashi who van also farm 😅
Anything at this point os just rolling for waifu.
But id like np2 for sure.
Space Ishtar still better overall. Also destroys Kama when used with BG + Oberon plugsuit.
I do believe this is wrong, on the np damage calculator from Google I plugged in a level 90 Np 2 Spishtar with the following buffs from Castoria, Spishtar, and Oberon + BG. 120 Arts buff, 70 attack buff, and 320 Np buff and the average damage is 300,730. While I plugged in S.Kama with the following buffs from Castoria and Oberon at level 90 Np 2. 130 arts buff, 40 attack, 220 Np buff, and 50 np extra damage and got a average damage of 310,006. Which is 9,276 more damage than Spishtar. So unless I/the calculator did the calculations wrong S.Kama with Castoria and Oberon beats damage from Spishtar with Castoria and Oberon.
Oh cool
**Proceeds to still brute force nodes with my np5 120 muramasa**
Will she return after her banner this summer?
Meh my si can buster loop 😂😂😂
I am f2p in NA and just wanted assassin Kama... I didnt get her in any of her banners. Is summer Kama the only Kama i can get now?
I think assassin Kama gets another banner next year
Is np2 enough though?
Spishtar: "Hey Kama...how's that Arts looping for those 90++ nodes working out for ya? If only there was an Avenger who could switch their NP type..."
morgan says hi from first place.
But what if, now hear me out, even though I have NP2 Space Ishtar, I roll for NP2 Summer Kama because she's hot?
Huh? Huh?~ Not too bad of an idea, right?!
Kama is hotter than Rin so obviously Kama is better.
gonna skip her coz already have np 3 spisthar
I was rolling for caenis and got her on my first summon
She's not what i'm looking for so the archives will be a good home for her after this event
I can safely skip Summer Kama for one single reason you mentioned at the end. I already own NP2 Spish.
She sounds awesome. Shame that I finally have my NP5 Spishtar.
i have an np2 spishtar and a np3 summer musashi but i love kama with a passion so i’m gonna try to get np2 when she releases bht i don’t know if the gacha gods will be kind
Not interested. I've got a bunch of art looping servants 😊
I'm only waiting for Oberon and koyan
Kamas Animation is very very similar to a lot of servants already. For example Clytie. She’s not worth summoning
That’s because there’s only so many things a human shaped thing can do
Every character with tentacles will have their attacks look the same
NP2???!!!! Bruhhhh
No... because there's no way I'll roll more Kamas than I have Spishtars
She cute tho
> Far more important debilitating effect
> Being Dead
🤣
Complaining about long np animations or putting them as "good points" is the equivalent of first world problems on fgo
I don't understand... Why do Fino and ZTL sound so similar... It's as if they're twins or something aha... Wait.. They ain't twins are they?!