you should make a mussel loaded version of this, using brass tubing as a barrel then using a similar setup to shoot but use a nylon cap behind the dart so it wont explode, and use more flash cotton to give it more power, maybe even use a revolving capacsiter holder that not only holds multiple shots but also recharges them
I wonder if you could make a nerf revolver out of the capacitor darts. The hammer would strike the switch, fire the dart, and you'd get some fire out the end of the barrel from the flash cotton. I bet that would look really cool
You need to stuff a slightly slower burning charge into the nose. It will ignite after the nitrocellulose and act as base bleed or like a sustainer motor, and significantly increase the range. You could also fashion some sort of converging/diverging nozzle to tuck into the end to optimize specific impulse, that should increase the range too.
Add a "barrel" over the cap that is the full length of the interior of the dart. That should contain the gasses for longer and I imagine would shoot MUCH farther than the regular Nerf guns.
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Funnily enough it literally is, all modern smokeless powder (usually just referred to as gunpowder nowadays) is granulated nitrocellulose aka flashcotton coated in a thin layer of graphite powder. All the graphite does is prevent the granules from clumping and make it harder to ignite without an intentional ignition source. It literally Is the same thing. No wonder its effective lol.
this was my first thought as well. it would also have the added benefit of increased accuracy since the flash cotton would be mostly expended before the dart left the tube, so it would work less as a rocket with no fins and more as a launched projectile that uses the body of the dart for stability.
Idea for improvement: using a small metal tube that fits inside the dart and is sealed on the capacitor side. The expandig gases could then accelerate the dart over a much longer distance.
The problem you were having with the bulk of the combustible methods was a lack of oxidizer. "A syringe full of gasoline" isn't going to do a whole lot without being well mixed with air. A gas engine has to essentially mist gasoline into a volume of air, that is then compressed and ignited. The guncotton chemically "has it's own air" and doesn't require a whole lot else to go bang.
@@JoelCreates - Mhm. Mhm. I see. So, what you're saying is... if you build all the bad ideas there could possibly be, the only things remaining, by process of elimination, are the good ideas! ... I think this is what other makers think of you, but with only the bad ideas.
im not sure there would be space for it. im not an engineer, but on the outside is dangerous for whatever measures the speed, and the inside is where the spring and combustion is happening. unless you add a completely new area inside seperated from the combustion, which would be difficult for people at home still would be cool as hell
To make them go farther, I found weighing them at the tip slightly made a world of difference. This would require modding the bullet, but it works great
For distance, take a page out of Nerf modding from the 00s and make Stefans - 1/2" closed-cell foam backing rod, heat it up to make it straighten out, hot glue a BB to the front. Or you can cut down darts or even buy short darts off the shelf these days, they're the same weight but more aerodynamic because they've got less foam - though you're also cutting down on the size of propellant you can fit inside.
You could also do Neodymium - Iron - Bore permanent launcher and a coil in the nerf bullet. With that kind of capacitor in the launcher you can achieve very powerful shots without burning your nerf projectiles
On the one hand I'm the tiniest bit sad it's not an entirely self propelled nerf dart. On the other that is ridiculously cool how you managed to get everything to work so well at such a small scale.
Being a 20+ year old man-child, seeing this makes me wish I was 12 again, playing all-out-war against my friends in my living room. I mean on top of that, I used to modify my nerf darts too. Cutting them down and putting tacts in them so they'd stick to the walls(I can still remember my mum getting mad at me for that). But this is on a whole other level.
This actually has a pretty interesting practical use. With something like this you could design an airsoft gun with no charging mechanism. All airsoft guns need to pull a spring back, electronically spin a wheel launcher, or use some other manual mechanism because the darts aren't self propelling. With this you could make practical airsoft guns that have basically as many limits as a conventional one. We could finally see a true lever action airsoft, a break action airsoft, or a full auto without whirring noises. Has great commercial potential (as well as great video topic potential)
Quest aerospace makes miniature rocket motors exactly the size you'd need for this kind of project, and they can fling their little rockets a good 100' or so
That's such a cool idea and both of your prototypes are fantastic! The spring one is just close enough to a normal nerf gun that it's funny to see shoot and the capacitor one adds that extra bang! Nice!!
The best Fuel to use for such a small thing is HHO, its already at the perfect stoichiometric air/fuel ratio and will ignite with a tiny static spark and it packs one helluva punch, oh and the best part is its free, doesn't cost a thing
This guy's the next William Osman. Not because his ideas are crazy. It's because he's playing with Gas and Fire in his house and we know how that's gonna end.
using needle felting you can pack substantially more flash cotton in a single dart, making it potentially go significantly further than a regular nerf gun.
I bet that the darts could also be used with most actual nerf guns! With the capacitor-based one, you could just put a bunch of cotton into all of your ammo. Then, you just use those darts as you would normally, but if need be, you load the capacitor into it.
"Most and Best hidden nerf guns engineering competition" and simply but you will run short obstacle course and stop in front of Judges who then say how many guns/pullets you have and your job is to get them say One and then pull 20 different gun totaling 300 shots 😏 the obstacle course is to make an example that you can still move with all that stuff and are not some T-Posing character.
My suggestion for the flash cotton nerf "gun" is to give it tubing so that all the combustion of the flash cotton will be directed forward to the rubber tip of the dart, so that the foam body of the dart doesn't have to experience excessive pressure.
for the flash powder ones: if you have a longer tube inside with slippery sides you'll get better energy transfer. could also reinforce the dart on the inside, that way 2 tight fitting tubes of controlled friction would probably help give you the longest shot.
I'm gonna need to see a Part 2 where you attempt some of the improvements suggested by your rocket scientist comment section. The interior charge tube and dual-stage/dual-density fuel in particular sound lit.
add some kind kind of mechanism that will hit the button when you pull the trigger on the gun so you don't need springs or electric motors to fire it. Find a way to make the blowback from the nerf bullet reset the trigger, consider a more explosive combustion material and maybe reinforce the bullet with metal instead of tape. This has potential to change the way we fight wars.
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Bro thank you so much! Ive been looking for this exact mechinisum forever!
but now I might be on the FBI watchlist :p
Fire a loaded dart wit a normal nerf gun and make it ignite in the air
Can you make a self launching grenade/firebomb?
you should make a mussel loaded version of this, using brass tubing as a barrel then using a similar setup to shoot but use a nylon cap behind the dart so it wont explode, and use more flash cotton to give it more power, maybe even use a revolving capacsiter holder that not only holds multiple shots but also recharges them
Now create a nerf dart that shoots a nerf gun
Genius
Amazing
@@RawApplzzzfr
That shoots a nerf gun
Here before 1k likes
" I'm a strong independent bullet, I don't need a gun to fire me!"
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Heh, bullets, am i right?
Bullets ☕ 🗿
*enter kevdog*
Took me reading this twice to understand it😂😂😂
50BMG round that fires itself next
Only in America, where bullets shoot themselves
Ok
@petersripol I did that!…kinda
GUNS DONT KILL PEOPLE! BULLETS FIRE THEMSELVES!
Remove both their hand, and yours!
6:30 This is because most volatile liquids such as gasoline, aren’t flammable themselves, rather it’s the vapors they let off that are flammable.
This feels just one step from making a dart blaster with self contained cartridges (and no in-built propulsion)
look up “leblasto Scully”
its already done, and very cool might i add, will add link later
@@NoobGaming-op3ob yooo i'm excited
@@britishrex5515 WE'RE excited*
@@NoobGaming-op3ob add it now
I wonder if you could make a nerf revolver out of the capacitor darts. The hammer would strike the switch, fire the dart, and you'd get some fire out the end of the barrel from the flash cotton. I bet that would look really cool
Joel being like Cave Johnson:
We fire the whole bullet. That's 65% more bullet per bullet!
Aperture science nerf turret when
@@DarkKryo thats actually a really goog idea
But i got another idea and that is a tf2 sentry with camera
Nerf guns already fire the whole bullet.
By putting the propellent inside the bullet Joel was the one firing 35% less bullet.
@@humanperson8418 the mechanism may weight more si maybe it's more bullet pero bullet
You need to stuff a slightly slower burning charge into the nose. It will ignite after the nitrocellulose and act as base bleed or like a sustainer motor, and significantly increase the range. You could also fashion some sort of converging/diverging nozzle to tuck into the end to optimize specific impulse, that should increase the range too.
I guess you’d know, as a Non-Euclidean Taco Cannon.
This project was a literal banger! Definitely gonna blow up.
You mean the Nerf dart
I agree 🗿
Bro- 💀
Pun intended
It did
The idea that you'd have to adjust for recoil while firing a dart from your fingertips is funny to me for some reason. Cool!
Remember, it’s faster to swap to your dart than to reload your Nerf Gun.
Just switch to your other weapon, it’s faster than reloading!
@@allentastic r/yourjokebutworse
Remember, throwing your sidearm at the enemy is faster than reloading.
Remember, kicking your enemy in the groin is faster than reloading.
Remember, throwing up your hands and surrendering is faster than reloading.
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“Oh yeah?”
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Add a "barrel" over the cap that is the full length of the interior of the dart. That should contain the gasses for longer and I imagine would shoot MUCH farther than the regular Nerf guns.
Almost like a gun! Wait a minute...
@@alexturnbackthearmy1907 Funnily enough it literally is, all modern smokeless powder (usually just referred to as gunpowder nowadays) is granulated nitrocellulose aka flashcotton coated in a thin layer of graphite powder. All the graphite does is prevent the granules from clumping and make it harder to ignite without an intentional ignition source. It literally Is the same thing. No wonder its effective lol.
this was my first thought as well. it would also have the added benefit of increased accuracy since the flash cotton would be mostly expended before the dart left the tube, so it would work less as a rocket with no fins and more as a launched projectile that uses the body of the dart for stability.
@@EmotionalSupportCube NERF GYROGET
@@Bakkerboy that would be quite something! although it would probably have to fit in one of their larger projectiles.
“Sometimes you just need a little less gun”
- Dell Conagher, The Engineer
I love that David has become a regular part of the channel. We can all live vicariously through his child-like excitement over your projects.
Idea for improvement: using a small metal tube that fits inside the dart and is sealed on the capacitor side. The expandig gases could then accelerate the dart over a much longer distance.
david saying"oooh that's nifty" made my whole week, rad dude.
David is nifty
The problem you were having with the bulk of the combustible methods was a lack of oxidizer. "A syringe full of gasoline" isn't going to do a whole lot without being well mixed with air. A gas engine has to essentially mist gasoline into a volume of air, that is then compressed and ignited.
The guncotton chemically "has it's own air" and doesn't require a whole lot else to go bang.
At this pace, in a few years we will get a self-jumping jump rope and a self-solving Rubik's cube
there are all ready self solving Rubik's cubes.
Link: th-cam.com/video/2PGjTt4xkWM/w-d-xo.html
There already is a self solving rubrics cube
@@insertusernamehere4549 they can also beat humans in most cases as well.
Well oh boy, do i have a product for you...
@@_aWiseManit’s perfect for you, perfect for your family, it’s perfect for your friends
Every time someone starts a sentence with "this" followed by a brief pause, Doug Demuro gets a tingle in his neck.
them flash cotton darts are getting really close to real cartridges lol
LOL thats what i was thinking
@@fruitygranulizer540 Lego gun with working firing pin and stuff these into a magazine or breach load for easiest
Like how volcanic pistol worked ?
@@arandomcomp2427 Nah, volcanic was caseless, this is still leaving something behind.
That last line was amazing.
"Thanks for watching ill see u next time" ?
“You know how you usually loose all the darts you lost all the gun”-Quincy, 2023
That was a hilarious line.
That was such a good Outro lol. Loved the video dude, Couldn’t stop watching. So cool!
How do you come up with such great ideas?! I never tought of this and yet I need it so much
Practice, oddly enough
@@JoelCreates - Mhm. Mhm. I see. So, what you're saying is... if you build all the bad ideas there could possibly be, the only things remaining, by process of elimination, are the good ideas! ... I think this is what other makers think of you, but with only the bad ideas.
@@JoelCreates wow I should get to practicing then:), thanks for the reply!
quantity creates quality
Old 007 movie
Idk the shop guys name, but I love him.
A real homie.
I wonder if a self contained system that activates when the dart is thrown could be viable.
Would be pretty sick!
im not sure there would be space for it. im not an engineer, but on the outside is dangerous for whatever measures the speed, and the inside is where the spring and combustion is happening. unless you add a completely new area inside seperated from the combustion, which would be difficult for people at home
still would be cool as hell
@@TuxedoDogss I'm envisioning some kind of momentum based catch like a bb that slides a little bit and triggers it.
@@TuxedoDogss what about just firing when the button's released instead of pressed
@@njdotson add a little delay to that and you're golden
I heard that if you press the button while holding it, it’ll make you fly
To make them go farther, I found weighing them at the tip slightly made a world of difference. This would require modding the bullet, but it works great
I don't think modding the bullet is a problem anymore...
Put hot glue into the hole in the tip.
or just buy different darts
another option is cutting the dart in half
For distance, take a page out of Nerf modding from the 00s and make Stefans - 1/2" closed-cell foam backing rod, heat it up to make it straighten out, hot glue a BB to the front. Or you can cut down darts or even buy short darts off the shelf these days, they're the same weight but more aerodynamic because they've got less foam - though you're also cutting down on the size of propellant you can fit inside.
A 1/4" slingshot steel ball slides right in up to the tip.
*_This is an example of technology going compact: something that is mentioned frequently in the S.T.E.M fields._*
"We fire the whole dart. That's 65% more dart per dart." - Cave Joelson
You could also do Neodymium - Iron - Bore permanent launcher and a coil in the nerf bullet. With that kind of capacitor in the launcher you can achieve very powerful shots without burning your nerf projectiles
On the one hand I'm the tiniest bit sad it's not an entirely self propelled nerf dart.
On the other that is ridiculously cool how you managed to get everything to work so well at such a small scale.
It is self propelled technically, as the cotton is contained in the nerf dart and the capacitor does not provide propulsion.
entirely self propelled is impossible from third law
@@person1082 I think you might want to brush up on Newtonian physics
@@person1082 You could describe rockets as self-propelled.
@@theneonbop those excrete matter to move but the point of them is to not need to
"that was very threatening, i like that alot"
OMG DUDE!!!!
"In the realm of Nerf or nothin', it turns out that nothin', is really somethin'." - I want this on my tombstone lmao
"In the realm of Nerf or Nothin', it turns out that sometimes nothin' is really something" - Amazing!
Only Joel could come up with this, love your channel
Thanks Dragon
“Hey, wanna play with nerf darts?”
“You mean nerf guns?”
*Did I stutter?*
Challenge accepted! Great teamwork... great results! Brilliant production!
I've watched many people try and fail to fire a bullet without a gun, it feels liberating to see that someone finally succeeded
Being a 20+ year old man-child, seeing this makes me wish I was 12 again, playing all-out-war against my friends in my living room. I mean on top of that, I used to modify my nerf darts too. Cutting them down and putting tacts in them so they'd stick to the walls(I can still remember my mum getting mad at me for that). But this is on a whole other level.
Airsoft is the adult version of that
Man remember the old pen gun/rubber band gun/modified cap gun video tutorials? Those were the days.
I felt 12 when the capacitor blaster first worked
Were gonna need these weapons for security reasons
This actually has a pretty interesting practical use. With something like this you could design an airsoft gun with no charging mechanism. All airsoft guns need to pull a spring back, electronically spin a wheel launcher, or use some other manual mechanism because the darts aren't self propelling. With this you could make practical airsoft guns that have basically as many limits as a conventional one. We could finally see a true lever action airsoft, a break action airsoft, or a full auto without whirring noises. Has great commercial potential (as well as great video topic potential)
Dave deserves an oscar for his preformance
Quest aerospace makes miniature rocket motors exactly the size you'd need for this kind of project, and they can fling their little rockets a good 100' or so
Aw man I know I was shooting it but the ending had me cracking up.
This was amazingly fun and lifted my spirits! Love it!
That's such a cool idea and both of your prototypes are fantastic! The spring one is just close enough to a normal nerf gun that it's funny to see shoot and the capacitor one adds that extra bang! Nice!!
you should do this with mega or mega xl darts and see how far you can make them go
Joel creates... happiness in my brain. Thanks buddy.
No, thank you Pepe Silvia
Even if it is a slight under preformer, it is more than a worthy weapon to absolutely style on people in cqc, this is phenomenal
Nice builds. Now I imagine a whole bandolier or two of them :P
Also, maybe you could rig a bunch together for a shotgun blast equivalent.
This is the kinda stuff you become a nerf super spy with, disguising it as a pen or something
Also, could rig these like claymores, mines, trip traps, or frag grenades too.
@@dbio305 there are already spy pen guns
Well of course it fires almost as far as a regular nerf gun. That’s closer to an actual gun than nerf.
The supercapacitor/flash cotton combo was a really fantastic idea! A surprisingly optimal solution to the problem.
Actually sounds like a cool way to make traditionally ammo-like nerf darts. You have the casing instead of a stored elastic force
KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK!!! ❤❤❤❤
@Don't Read My Profile Photo ok
I also have a self firing dart the way it shoots is by me useing my hand to throw it
Only 4 Views in 43 Seconds, clearly this video deserves more attention.
LOL!
The best Fuel to use for such a small thing is HHO, its already at the perfect stoichiometric air/fuel ratio and will ignite with a tiny static spark and it packs one helluva punch, oh and the best part is its free, doesn't cost a thing
Can't believe it took the two of you so long to realize a spring loaded self firing dart.
What a James Bond move to just pull out in the middle of a nerf showdown. Amazing!
you always have such great ideas
Thanks Björn
@Austin
@Austin
This guy's the next William Osman. Not because his ideas are crazy. It's because he's playing with Gas and Fire in his house and we know how that's gonna end.
*Nerf Cyanide*
Yes
AWWWWWHH THATS NIFTYYYY
10:48 only response necessary for this video.
Bro just got hacked
Wdym
nerf battles just got way more exciting
Bro you have been hacked
bro made a nerf reverse flintknock
Oh damn. That scorpion nerf gun at 3:58 unlocked a core memory. I had one of those as a kid.
this is the nerf version of the James Bond cigarette rocket
9:10 its like reloading a flintlock lol
That was a SMOOTH ass outro line. Kudos.
Thanks
What a great video! Loved it thoroughly!!!
You could use the capacitors themselves as a propellant. Just apply a voltage higher than the limit and they pop. ElectroBoom already taught us
You could probably 3D print some sorta inner housing with tubing that could divert the gasses in a more optimized way to increase thrust 🤔
9:50 this could lead to the design of a real flying fireball
using needle felting you can pack substantially more flash cotton in a single dart, making it potentially go significantly further than a regular nerf gun.
This is like throwing your gun at the enemy when you’re out of ammo.
that ending. Those words picked were so good
"A hot, flammable, ergonomic failure, yes."
I feel this in my soul
This man has just proved the impossible: That you can really work with just nothin'.
Now with this, you can make pretty much a nerf gun that doesn’t even use a plunger, rather a hammer and firing pin
I bet that the darts could also be used with most actual nerf guns! With the capacitor-based one, you could just put a bunch of cotton into all of your ammo. Then, you just use those darts as you would normally, but if need be, you load the capacitor into it.
I like it how he says it's huge when it's literally small.
This could legit become an engineering competition
"Most and Best hidden nerf guns engineering competition"
and simply but you will run short obstacle course and stop in front of Judges who then say how many guns/pullets you have and your job is to get them say One and then pull 20 different gun totaling 300 shots 😏 the obstacle course is to make an example that you can still move with all that stuff and are not some T-Posing character.
i like how he just put a tactile switch into a dart for the thumbnail and called it a day
My suggestion for the flash cotton nerf "gun" is to give it tubing so that all the combustion of the flash cotton will be directed forward to the rubber tip of the dart, so that the foam body of the dart doesn't have to experience excessive pressure.
I tried this, but pressure still builds inside the body as it begins moving down the tube and can burst
for the flash powder ones: if you have a longer tube inside with slippery sides you'll get better energy transfer. could also reinforce the dart on the inside, that way 2 tight fitting tubes of controlled friction would probably help give you the longest shot.
new idea: invent a way to fire it with a delay, and then launch it out of an electric blaster, so that you get a mid air range boost.
Imagine shooting one and it just falls onto the ground.
- Haha! You missed!
- I didn't.
- What?
And then bullet launches itself to the enemy.
I'm gonna need to see a Part 2 where you attempt some of the improvements suggested by your rocket scientist comment section.
The interior charge tube and dual-stage/dual-density fuel in particular sound lit.
Now create a nerf dart that shoots a nerf gun that shoots a nerf dart that shoots a nerf gun that shoot an actual bullet:)
I like how in every video, he always where a ushanka. I love it so much
add some kind kind of mechanism that will hit the button when you pull the trigger on the gun so you don't need springs or electric motors to fire it. Find a way to make the blowback from the nerf bullet reset the trigger, consider a more explosive combustion material and maybe reinforce the bullet with metal instead of tape. This has potential to change the way we fight wars.
8:10 'hard to press' 😂😂 I've played around with those a few times n it is so painful🤣
incredible. Thank you so much for including your failed designs
i think spearing the nerf dart is more efficient than spending 10 days just to make a pressurized tube that took 54 tries to make successfully
I bet you can make a perpetual motion machine with this