STOP BAD Decisions from COSTING YOU SHOTS Around the GREEN
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ก.พ. 2025
- It may sound so SIMPLE but this MISTAKE Costs Golfers every time. Biting off more than they can chew or making poor decisions about what club to use wastes so many shots. Everyone wants to BOMB their Driver 300 Yards but when it comes to this simple thing, it will save you more than that impressive Driving.
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Very good advice, and very nicely illustrated! 😎
I keep this saying with me to remind me:
"Putt if you can, chip if you can't putt, only pitch if you have to" - essentially keep the ball rolling on the ground as much as possible.
That casual reaction to the chip-in 🤛
Generally not one to over react to things. I remember a hole in one celebration being a nonchalant walk back to the bag with a single finger raised about chest height (not the middle one 😂) 👍
@@AskGolfNut Nice example of the short format video. Bite sized and educational.
Very good advice … I just discovered recently and I took 5 strokes from my game !!! Unlikely only few coach tell you this
I have always tried to get across to all my clients in the past, KISS method! Keep It Simple Stupid.
Play the percentages, the easiest shot to give you the best percentage outcome. Don't worry about the good shots, they are always good! Concentrate on getting the bad shots better.... That's the way to reduce the handicap 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
It's even easier to see Phil now.. It's free on youtube, unlike most PGA events..
A great course management video. Judging from the oohs and aaahs from the people I usually play with, I seem to be the undisputed king of flop shots among 18 handicappers. The basic technique seems to come easy to me, because I am a flipper, who barley delofts his irons on normal shots. However, I only use the shot when I absolutely have to, like today, when I was short-sided twice and had to go over a bunker to a short pin. One worked well, the other not so much. I prefer chips, which are on the ground as much as possible. And I prefer the putter to those. So even if I can play the shot, everytime I have to, it scares the living bejesus out of me, until I have repeated 20 times: "You can do it".
Wonderful comment, well explained 👍🏻
I do most of my chip and run with a pitching wedge and gap wedge and will occasionally pull out the 9 iron for a longer one. I find that with the 8 and 7 iron I just don't have the distance control that is needed. I do chip and runs with the toe down with the face slightly closed for a bit of draw spin which seems to get the ball rolling better, so they are a bit de-lofted from the closed face.
From the 9 and lower use the rule of 12 to figure your distance. Once you dial this in it's pretty accurate, unless you have really new clubs whereby you'll have to adjust 1 club for the change in lofts.
I'd go wedge, I find the 7i comes off a bit hot !
Watch Paul Runyan Rule of 12. Saved my golfing life.
I swear I watched that once..... I still think I'm trying to carry the 1 🤔🤔🤔😊👍🏻
I thought Phil mostly used the same wedge to chip around the green (and there seems to be a lot of amateur Phil disciples that also advocate using a single wedge, claiming that it's easier to master one club rather than multiple clubs.
However, I'm with you and choose the club based on carry and roll.
Agree! I prefer to see average golfers use clubs that limit the chunk and top shots. In golf it's not about the good shots, they are always good. It's about making the bad shots better and removing the big numbers 👍🏻
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
My 52 is most chips for me. My 58 gets me height but less loft gets me a better strike therefore spin and predictability
Absolutely bang on with that assessment 👍🏻👍🏻
I understand that in theory, hitting a 7i or 8i on to the front of the green and having it roll out -- say 1/3 or 1/4 carry and then the rest roll-out is supposed to be easier and less risky. The swing is shorter and the target is closer to YOU. However, in actual practice, there are absolutely trade-offs, and you need to practice to see what you are best at. If I pull my GW and go for the 50/50 shot, and I miss a yard long or short, I am a yard from the pin (1:1 ratio). However, if I pick a spot on the green and try to land an 8i that is 1/4 carry and 3/4 roll, my misses are more magnified because of the loft. The 8i rolls 3 feet for every 1 foot of carry. So If I miss my target by that same yard (3ft) short or long -- I am 3x as far from the pin (3 yards long if I am a yard long on my chip). Some players are more adept at hitting a target in the, say, 10 - 20 yards away range with just one club. And if you can consistently land your 50/50 club close to your intended landing point (and you have judged the break correctly), you are always going to be close to the pin. You chip your 7 iron just a few feet long (or short) of your target and you have a 8 or 10 footer left. I think it comes down to how much you can practice and how well you visualize and can execute chipping to different targets with different lofts. You may be better off just using one club and flying it half way no matter if that means you chip it 10 yards or 20 or 30 on the fly. The GW (for example) will launch in the same window consistently (subject to strike) and will fly proportionally to the swing length making it easier to predict distance and execute. I am not contradicting our host (who is a Pro, obviously). But I can struggle hitting a less lofted club onto a small target areas (even closer to ME), and often will fare better with a more lofted club that flew half way or 1/3 of the way to the pin, because my technique and practice makes it more dependable and repeatable for me -- and the errors are less magnified.
I have yet to see any pro use a 7 iron on the 11th hole at Augusta 30 yards out. 🤷♂️….i think it works in the UK but in the states we have a more aerial game. You see it with the pros when you watch tournaments, they’re always using wedges.
The pros on the PGA Tour and alike are the best players, in the world devoting countless hours, everyday to their own performance.
The video is much more centred around everyday handicap golfers that can't practice with their wedges to be as good at low point control and strike like the pros.... All pros will say when asked about this for everyday golfers.... Use as least loft as possible... I have heard it a hundred times but golfers seem to always want you use their LW. Absolutely sure for a very small minority of golfers this may well statistically be their best option, but for the Average Golfer, using less loft and reading things as a put would be much better for their proximity and reduced wasted duff and thin shots etc 👍🏻
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👍🏻
So ....in round numbers, with all due considerations and excuses....
36 degrees = 1/3 flight & 2/3 roll
48 degrees = 1/2 flight 1/2 roll
Is that basically the rule of thumb subject to everything potentially going wrong?
Thanks 👍
Subject to your individual deloft which will be unique to your own delivery.
The moral of this story is find out with your own equipment what gives you those types of flights and then work on them practising landing point as your marker. Once you start getting ok at hitting your landing point, subject to being uphill or downhill, the ball will always do what you expect it to.
Too much loft and the increase in spin can cause uncontrolled checking and poor distance control and also encourages more varied strike 👍🏻
On the 7 iron and PW shots, do you consciously minimize wrist cock. Seems like it. For us duffers, one of the most frustrating errors is that while one’s practice swing seems to be good, when it comes to the actual swing the right or trail wrist takes over and flicks, causing a thin or skulled contact that sends the ball low and rolling over the green. How to restrain the right wrist, order it to hold back, is a struggle. Like we should give it a shot of Botox or wear a rigid cast type glove that prevents the trail wrist from moving!
🤣🤣 Botox the wrist before hand 🤣🤣 not sure about the next tee shot but it would work great for the chip 😊
Yes you are right, it's much more of a putting action rather than full wrist cock flurry flop shot style.
We are looking to control face angle and loft so the easiest way is to get a touch closer to it and then run it more of a putting action 👍🏻
@@AskGolfNut forgot to mention the other evil 👿 produced by the right wrist taking over and flicking at the ball, the dreaded chunk, the fat hit where the ball just moves a few feet and may not even reach the green. Grrrrrr. Yet I made three nice practice passes where the right wrist was cocked and stayed calmly back in extension like wiping a table, and clearly the club face would hit ball first. So what evil gremlin took over on the actual chip or pitch and made the right wrist slap at the ball and dig into the grass behind it?? I specifically didn’t want to do that, told my right wrist to stay back. Perhaps I let my right shoulder drop, or did not have 70-80% of my weight on my left leg. So incredibly frustrating because that spastic little spasm just added another stroke to my score. I can execute a 20 yard lob wedge over a bunker onto the green way more reliably than that much simpler pitch or chip I just chunked with a gap or pitching wedge. It’s a puzzlement. So I am now working on no wrist cock on those shots. Any suggestions you may have for poor souls like me and other viewers about the stroke rather than the club choice would be most welcome. Thanks as always.