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How does Katchan Armour defeat a T90. Did the T90 drive in to it really fast. Any case maybe India should spend money cleaning it streets instead of tanks. I know people that grew up in the worst slums in South Africa that where disgusted and appalled by India. So the fact you bragging about the size of the cock on your tank is pathetic. Now go back to work fixing people's windows.
@@shashankshekhar9819 What you're planning on having in the future is irrelevant. What matters is what you have today because if you were to go to war today then you would fighting with less than ideal equipment and the enemy isn't going to be terrible obliging to that fact. And don't boast that you could buy better equipment but haven't because then you're boasting that you haven't done the sensible thing. What a stupid retort.
Eh, just because it's not a top-of-the-line MBT, doesn't mean it's bad. Depending on the strategic situation a T-55 or Centurion can still be a decisive weapon, since any tank is leaps and bounds better than no tank. It's then up to the General staff to ensure that your tanks are in the right place at the right time.
@youcometome9 The IED's are pretty huge. Some a over a 100 kgs of Mortar rounds or high explosive. NATO has some of the best armoured tanks because of that. But I agree that they have not been hit by APFSDS projectiles since 3rd world nations don't have it.
@Dika Vinci That's true. However no one believes them until a miracle story of a M1 Abrams surviving a T14 Armata (still not in service) APFSDS projectile comes in a propaganda video. That is how the perception of a tank's ability plays out, the only tanks we trust are those battle tested ones. Forget the testing done on homeground against far more challenging conditions. It's more opinion than fact. Even you know that.
@@pranavvaishnave7648 *arjun fires with the round being a dud and not strong enough so its stuck between the wall* *the Pakistan tank fires going through the roof because the commander cant see the house good enough*
Theetla Madhu *Doesn't matter mate it's still a shitty tank , putting random armor on a tank that breaks down isn't gonna help lol* Build a new one , this time hopefully Indian leadership won't fall
@@Proger-sj8cj Well make some good changes. As an Indian, first cover that damn hole. Second use Smoothbore, third make blast shields for ammunination so it doesn't explode and 4th like russia cover the tank with reactive armor and you get a nice tank
@@creepydutchman fool first eatch the video... Also Red effect took links from Gaming sources could u even believe that. th-cam.com/video/iW9Ka3Y8qMk/w-d-xo.html Here's the video u decide.
@@studymotivationyts problem is here bengal itself was fighting against the pakistanis under the name mukti bahini india joined in later after a few airfields and things were bombed in the western bit of india
@Vladimir Putin not exactly my company, but a partner. If everything goes right then maybe with A9 or A10 version I could get a 130mm, but it is still the question if a 130mm or 140mm. If it becomes a 140mm then I can't take it.
@@TheTeKuZa??? :D ??? I think your are not up to date. I personally don't know what new caliber the USA want to develope, I didn't even knew that they want that because I also don't know if the M1 Abrams turret can take a bigger gun the 120mm But back to the topic. First of all not germany/France are developing a 130mm gun, Germany or to be more specific Rheinmetall defences is developing that thing on there own. I believe there are also no puplic information on what gun they will take in the end right now because France wants a 140mm gun. There was a attempt to use 140mm as an upgrade for the 120mm caliber lead by france/great Britain and Germany as a partner. The project in itself was never finished, Germany just used a longer gun barrel for the 120mm which made the 120mm as strong as they predicted the 140mm would be at the time. Also one problem would be that basically all leopards would have needed a new turret plus autoloader if the used one staged ammunition. The only tank that I know can take a 140mm is the south Korean K2 black Phanter which was developed at the time the 140mm caliber was a hot topic, but because Europe dropped it they also just took the L/55.
@Zayed Haroon the oplot meme strikes again. You know it will take a long time for them to deliver them. I mean a just one battalion worth would be great but Boi Ukraine is not what you call pumping them out.
Ukraine technology not existing all Soviet are Russian _ oplot are upgraded t80 tank _ morozov was Russian constructor Russia send him for making work place and industry upgrade in Ukraine _ Antonov to was Russian constructor _ tolmachov created an225 _ kraz was zil's prototype _ also Russia build in Soviet republics institutes scientists .
Ironic how this video actually manages to point out the plus points of the Arjun tank which all those biased Indian "analysts" never mention at all because of being busy with fallacy and misinformation to make the tank look better. Imagine if the Indians used the experience from the Arjun to make a newer, better tank that was designed specifically to meet the requirements of Indian armed forces from the start. They can take the good aspects of Arjun like the fire control system and battlefield management systems while improving stuff like adding a better smoothbore gun, higher mobility and reduced weight.
They tried to do it and made TankX. It didn't get selected by the Indian army for some reason, iirc it was because it exceeded the maximum weight requirement
@@historyandconspiracy6173 but it was on T72 chasis ...and due to funds it was stopped. And about new Arjun mk1A watch this the source of war. And seriously this guy is serious dude. th-cam.com/video/iW9Ka3Y8qMk/w-d-xo.html
Actually there is a program for Arjun Mk2(not to be confused with Arjun Mk1A or NGMBT) with significant weight reduction using HNS and aluminium wheels, a smoothbore gun, better crew protection. Probably also with a 3 man crew but its a toss up since Indian Mechanized forces are pretty disposed towards 4 man crew. A 1800hp engine is on work and will probably be online in 2 years. So the problem with mobility is solved.
Well India mainly uses Soviet built Upgraded models of T90 and T72s , Arjun was the first indegeniously made tank, hope they fix the issues in the next models
na dude, the deign flaws from the foundations meant that upgrading is pretty much not worthy as redesign the how thing yet considering the corruption and etc i doubt they can redesign and build a serviceable tank within 30 years
Wrong. India builds its own T-90 and they have a different armour than Russian or Soviet T-90s. Not saying that its superior to latest Russian T-90 models, but its superior to the earlier ones.
@@pajeet_slayer There's a difference between making a motorcycle engine and making a globally competitive motorcycle engine. Any country can make a motorcycle engine up to the standards of the 1980s, but only Japan and Germany can make a 2024 quality motorbike engine.
Being Indian I appreciate an unbiased review of both tanks and I think Red has it. Arjun is a maiden effort at indigenization and to proclaim it the better is stupid.. It has its share of shortfalls and needs to improve with successive iterations. As for Al Khalid, I did expect it to have certain things going it's way with Chinese assistance but ultimately cost factor will always play a role in determining its prowess.... Thanks Red. Others who call both tanks shitty need to remember that no country produced world class tanks in one go, especially given today's parameters. Secondly, it also depends on the crew on both sides. Indo Pak wars have had amazing tank battles, all thanks to the hardiest men manning them.
@@SA-dk5zx That is true. I expect Arjun to be similar in role to challenger as a defensive command control tank with t90 and t72 as general purpose tanks to augment and go to where heavy tanks can't go.
Good comment. See what my point is that India has the money all they have to do is do something to keep their educated people in their country and make them help their country. (Most of the graduated student leave India and go to west) India military has a pretty decent budget, in comparison, Pakistan gives a dime to their army(Yeah I called, the government of Pakistan needs to balance some stuff and the army needs to be given a much larger budget). So, both tanks did with what they had i.e. Al-Khalid excelled with the low budget while Arjun Excelled with many requirements by the military.
No hills obviously...just the himalayas. Jokes aside, we use the lighter T-90 Bhishmas for that, Arjuns have been put in the jaisalmer sector, a desert region where most of the tank battles between India and pak occur.
More like the doctrine. We Indians know Arjun is stupid. We use them to target soft armours, like trucks and APCs. For combating enemy armour, we mainly use the Jaguars loaded with CBU-105s, K9 Vajra TDs, mechanised infantry with ATGMs, and artillery. You don't use tanks to destroy tanks.
@Rana Ali Akhtar Alam Khan That doesn't say anything. That Arjun tank has laser warning system which means it can detect and diverse the rounds in other way. That's a big advantage. Old school peneration rounds work but I doubt that if you hit that sight
@Rana Ali Akhtar Alam Khan You're copying and pasting the same bullshit rhetoric on multiple threads regardless of context. I hope it makes you feel better. Enjoy the street shitting, you insecure zealot.
If they are evenly matched, then the real difference will not be on paper, but in the training, skills and tactics used. The best tanks, but with bad tactics and training can lead to a loss.
I mean, let's be honest, if you took a t90ms, an m1a2 Abrams, and a Leo 2a7v, these three tanks could probably work together to shred dozens of these half-assed tanks...
Arjun is Good for Desert Fighting condition. In a Trail done by Indian army Arjun Mk1 out performed Russian T-90 in many aspects.. Though Arjun have Higher weight due to its Heavy Armour, but Over all pressure distribution in soil is Kuch lesser compared to T-90. Don't forget Indian Army and Airforce always Favoured for Russian made Weapons.. If DRDO made 45 Tons Tank, they will say they need a Heavier tank with Better protection..
@@manassurya2019 bhai it literally just looks like a ripoff leopard 2a4. and the leopard 2a4 isn't very nice to look at in the first place lol. the a5 and a6 with the wedge armor look much better. and the al khalid looks like a cheap version of a ztz99.
@@aliarham6343 Tanks from 2nd World countries aren't exactly known for having the best armor. And RPG's can kill numerous targets dependent on the ammunition used.
Arjun is more like a cardboard shield. Way too many exposed areas. Al Khalid would probably die to any other major MBT but it could definitely hold up to Arjun since 200mm penetration is super under powered.
One big advantage for Team-AK is numbers, we have hundreds of these things ready for war. The Arjun tank is just another case of perpetual developmental hell.
India has T90s, thousands of them. India definitely has more tanks and better ones. But terrain and logistics are not on their side. Neither are other factors like their internal position right now with millions of protests and hundreds of separatist movements, plus China. Besides, AKs aren’t Pakistan’s best tanks, those would be T80UDs and the T84s they’re being upgraded to.
@Zayed Haroon India seems to have over 250 of Arjun MBT (two variants), over 1600 of T-90 variants with an additional order that would put them over 2000 of T-90 variants, and 2000+ T-72 variants. Pakistan seems to have 350 of Al-Khalid MBT, 320 T-80 variants, 500 Al-Zarrar, and under 1000 older variants of Chinese origin. Even with Pakistan adding 600 T-90s, I do not understand how the MBTs comparison comes close. That's the same across the board it appears. IFV, APC, artillery, etc.
@Zayed Haroon do you think Russia will risk their relationship with India for a very politically unstable country I don't think so .also that deal.was cancelled and Pakistan is currently looking at Chinese tanks
I saw it in the news that Arjun tank is still a prototype and the army doesn't want it on the field because of it's overweight and it is unreliable on mountain warfare.
@@theindo-germanguy8817 News across the world is propaganda these days. Want the truth? Use the internet and official websites. News says "Arjun is still a prototype"? Then google whether its in Indian Army's ORBAT. When you do, you'll find that:- 43rd Armoured Regiment and 75 Armoured Regiment in 140 Armoured Brigade, 12th Infantry Division, XII Pivot Corps, Southern Command, Indian Army are both units of 62 Arjun Mk1 each. Next you'll find Official Government of India press release (at PIB) stating the placement of order of a further 118 Arjun Mk1A tanks. In total, that is 242 Arjun tanks that have been ordered by Indian Army. That is more than the number of Challenger 2 tanks in British Army service. Hence proved, Arjun is not "just a prototype".
*Battle of Asal Uttar* Pakistan: Backed by USA had the world's best tank (of the time) The Patton tank. India: Had WW2 Sherman tanks and Challenger tanks brought from USA and UK at scrap value. Guess who won? *INDIA* (India killed so many Patton tanks that the place even today is known as Patton Nagar.) It's pointless even if you give Pakistanis Abrams tank. They are just not trained enough due to lack of funds.
I just dont see how a 300mm penetration shell can kill the Al-Khalid from the front, and with that much weight its very difficult to flank and attack it from the sides.
@@1KosovoJeSrbija1 Its possible to fire APFSDS from a rifled gun. It fires a DRDO CLGM a.k.a. SAMHO The 530mm penetration is LOS thickness, not thickness of plate.
I visited India recently for their defence expo in Gajarat. The spokesperson at the arjun exhibit pretty much explained that while they now have the option to do so, there's no point in installing a smoothbore gun on it as only a few hundred units of the tank exist and their military is planning to use HESH rounds + barrel launched ATGMs(Israeli LAHAT or an Indian one which was just tested) till a new tank is developed.
Technically, there is a point to it. Not only would it save up on cash by using already existing weapons/ammunition, but a single-piece 125mm ammunition being developed would greatly aid in any future modernizations/upgrades to it's T-72 and T-90 tanks. Quite honestly, I am shocked no country that operates the 125mm smoothbore has done this.
Love that you made the video, but there’s a little thing I’d like to correct (I’m not one of the salty ones, just want to share the little knowledge I have too. I enjoy the content). I have driven the AK and have been around it during Pakistani military exercises. The thing about AKs armor needs some explanation; The Pakistanis have a few hundred AKs that have either Full ERA or Varta+Hull ERA which belong to the “ready” regiments. (Strike regiments as the Pakistanis call them). So they wouldn’t necessarily have to start installing ERA on hundreds of tanks when a war starts, they would have a few ready while they put it on the others, the reason for this is probably costs and availability. So in a fight it would have that ERA. (I have pictures if you want to see them.) All AKs and even the Al-zarrars Pakistan has do have laser warning receivers. LTS786P made by GIDS. (You can find a link to that on their website). Newer AKs (the one in the video when you were talking about it’s mobility) have third generation thermals for the gunner from SAGEM. Pakistan also has the Chinese 125-3 projectiles. Not sure about availability.
No one's gonna talk about how Arjun can't actually penetrate the front of Al Khalid while Al Khalid has a pretty good chance of penetrating Arjun. Also i'm Vietnamese and T-90s reign supreme hahahahahah
Yeah but as Red Effect has pointed out, you don't need to fully penetrate a tank to take it out of action. It's a situational advantage in general and the crew of the Al-Khalid would have to carefully make use of it.
@@TheNicestPig Arjun has tested DRDO FSPADS Mk2 which can pen bit more than 530mm (actual range classified), enough to pen frontal of an Al Khalid from 2 km away. Plus, Al Khalid's 600mm round can only go through the hole in Arjun's armour, which is the gun sight. Other areas are as well protected as a T-90 (meaning a 600mm pen isn't enough). Not to mention the fact that Arjun can launch an 8 km ATGM from its main cannon. TBH I wished they hadn't mucked up Arjun's development as much as they did, but against Al Khalid its sufficient.
@@death_parade keyword being "tested", the round isn't in service. The gun sight, AND the gun shield, which together makes up a significant portion of the turret profile. That's a pretty big problem.
@@TheNicestPig The round is entering in service for T-90 and T-72 already. Orders have been placed to a private Indian company. It won't take long before it enters production for Arjun as well. It will take longer for Pakistan to get out of the current economic, social and political strife its in right now. Meaning that by the time Pakistan is ready for war next, India will have that round in service across its tank fleet. Agree about the gun sight and mantlet problem. Its a big weak spot. A weak spot that is as weak as Al Khalid's entire frontal armour (forget 30 degrees sidecheeks or the hull front). So for Arjun, its a weak spot on an otherwise strong armour while for Al Khalid its no weak spots because the entire frontal armour is weak.
Someone said it was back up but got taken down again. I have not seen it back up yet so either it's still being reviewed or the said poster was mistaken.
I think Al-Khalid is better. The infrastructures of both countries are not really good, and IMO is far important to have tanks able to be transported than having a better FCS which wouldn't be usable if the tank cannot be transported to the combat zone. We also have to put them in the infantry support role, where I would really prefer the Al-Khalid tank for its variety of HE projectiles and ATGMs. No, I'm not pakistani, I'm a spaniard trying to give my unbiased opinion about these tanks (just in case)
6:08 this biggest disappointment is that Arjun is equipped with 120mm Rifle gun where most modern MBTs r equipped with Smoothbore guns expect UK Challengers2 which is another crap itself. The biggest postive is that we at least made it by our self....not like doing paint job which most of there equipment r done
Wait the thing you missed was pmc Those can penetrate around 510to 520 mm We all know that arjun is heavier and under powered but those issues are being solved
Going forward the advantage goes to the Al-Khalid by a large margin as the upgrade for it already exists in the form of the Chinese VT-4 with superior firepower, fire control, protection, and mobility. Existing production line can just switch over to the VT-4. Upgrading the Arjun to match it would be no simple matter. That 120mm rifled gun is unique to India being a one piece ammo design. It therefore cannot take advantage of advances in 120mm smoothbore or British rifled ammo. Plus being too heavy for Indian rail and bridges means there's no way to improve protection without upgrading infrastructure itself.
m1A1abrahm tank is of 68 ton category and was able to move better in iraqi desert than t72 also riffled guns provide a revolving effect to projectile also arjun weight is due to kanchan armour and era panels which could defeat even israeli armour piercing fin stabilized anti tank round also arjun featured plane type telescopic suspension allowing it to uniformly distribute its weight to match speed arjun pitted against t90 tank was able to withstand five rounds directly fired at it with point blank range also the youtuber is unaware that arjun could fire heat hesh israeli lahat missile plus indian developed tandem charged depleted uranium round
@@amit_achrekar411 ok so what is all of that Israeli? Israel don't have the best things on the world, usa got better Also modern HE is enough no need hesh
@@kast7n336 comparing without proper knowledge the youtuber did not what arjun could fire as far you asked regarding heat round which is just high explosive antitank round could be defeated by modern composite armour as kachan armour can provide up to 1800mm or much higher as kanchan upgraded mark2 armour provides more superior then mark1 as far israeli systems are concerned they are world class as seen from spice250 smart jdam used in balakot😀😀😀😀😀
@@mrnobody4033 stop lying pakistan has a better airforce, it shot down one of your planes and your economy is based on industrial complex that is dying out soon.. both of u 3rd world shithole needs to focus on new stuff
@@darthimperius8057 US department of defence checked on the F-16 claim and it was false, their fleet wasn't harmed not a single missing, you fell for Indian propaganda
Al-Khalid is in mass production. Pakistan has 600 Al-Khalids on order. Arjun on the other hand has never entered full scale production. That said, Al-Khalid is Pakistan's 1st experiment with Tank production. The next iteration of Al-Khalid block-2 will feature 1500hp engine, redesigned turret system, upgraded FCS, datalink and software.
1st experiment model 🤣🤣it just a pakistani version of chinese type 96IIM (MBT 2000) its export to other foreign countries by the name of VT 1A , pakistani has only developed its 125 mm barrel and its sabot round in this tank after few years, this tank is no longer in production since ukraine is not manufacturing the engine anymore
Basically the main motive of the production of Arjun tank was to counter abrams or to just hold in the front of abrams as in 1973 war it was it was a report that as Pakistan have got a f- 16 they can also get abrams from USA
@RedEffect 2nd gen thermal gunner sight are being replaced by Segem 3rd Gen .. which is a great leap in capability I agree that deficiencies in armour are there
In 1965 Indo Pak war , outdated British Centurion tanks defeated American Paton tanks in the battle of Asal Uttar , in 1973 Yom Kippur war Israel defeated Soviet made Egyptian tanks , there is something called MAN BEHIND THE MACHINE .
Thats only of the difference in technology & skill is minimum. U cant expect a lewis hamilton to win using a maruti 800 against a normal driver in f1 car.
well, those Cents had 12 degress of gun depression while the Soviet made tanks only had like 5 degress of elevation. the Israeli TC known that their tanks had no chance agaist the Tank fleet heading towards them so they decided to use the terrain at their adventage, but know, things have changed. You have infantry with anti-Tank weapons, drones, planes, ETC. while during the 70's the only problem was another tank becouse anti-tank guns were pretty bad agaist MBTs
@@dranzergigs8333 bad example. driving a F! is absolutely nothing like driving a normal car, Unless the driver had prior training, it;s unlikely would even be able to drive it at all.
Interesting points but few observations. 1. Arjun's new ammunition has addressed the low penetration issue (since 2016) 2. Arjun's ground pressure is 0.84 kg /sq m compared to 0.9 kg/sq m of al khalid despite being heavier. 3. Arjun power to weight ratio is 24hp/ton compared to 26 hp / ton for Al khalid in real world not that big a difference. 4. Both have max speed of ~70km/hr 5. Arjun has got hydro-pneumatic suspension compared to torsion bar in Al khalid In terms of mobility both are near matched but, for first hit probability and accuracy on the move arjun is way superior.
@@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 t80 is crap , t90 is over rated though lepord2 is in another league. BTW 'Krauss Maffei' provided design assistance in Arjun project so one can see Leopard 2 inspiration in it. Any one claming it best is as dishonest as some one calling it shit. It's a decent enough modern tank, issue with indian forces is old and huge russian hardware like t72 which is difficult to replace at once and of course the Soviet doctrine using Soviet machines. With modernization both needs to be ditched. (And that will always include logistic changes for any new machine, equally true if india imports Abraham's or leopard 2 itself)BTW Arjun has better creature comfort and safety than a t90. It performed equal or better than t90 on most count even when t90S was tested with relaxed params and arjun with harsh params, that itself speaks volumes of it. BTW T90 is a decent machine but not something as good as it's modern western counterparts.
I think in areas like the north, the Al Khalid would have an advantage, since it'd be able to move about in the harsh terrain easier, also crossing the hundreds of bridges in those regions, however the Arjun could possibly perform better at night or during dust storms, thanks to its in built Thermal Vision
140 Armoured Brigade, 12th Infantry Division, XII Pivot Corps has two Arjun tank regiments will lead India's IBGs in the Thar Desert. Contrary to popular beliefs, Arjun has a lower ground pressure than T-90.
Al-Khalid I - Upgraded variant with Ammunition capacity increased to 49 125 mm rounds, 1,500 12.7 mm rounds and 7,100 7.62 mm rounds.[3][6] Incorporates modifications made to the fire-control system, sensors, IBMS, side-skirts, track pads, auto-loader (rate of fire increased to 9 rounds per minute), Ukrainian Varta electro-optical jammer (disrupts laser rangefinders, laser designators and anti-tank guided missile tracking systems), Sagem third-generation thermal imagers and improved air conditioning system first batch already inducted
As a Pakistani my advice to you is not to do any review on any Pak-Indo stuff cuz both countries get salty really quick and it has a history behind it to get salty. on the lighter note (people who play tank games will know what i am saying): Russian tanks are OP, they need a nerf xD Anyway I love your review cuz I love tanks and lastly, i apologize on behalf of all Pakistani who may write a bad comment.
Señor RedEffect, I've an idea for your next video! I once saw a Chinese Type 59 in Tanzanian service, and it appears to be somewhat modernized. It would be cool to make a video about it and to see if it would fare well in modern combat (I doubt they could take on a modern MBT tho... Or could they?)
It has a new turret that features the gun and tech of Type96 tank. It also got some new composite and reactive armor. So in terms of firepower it can definitely take on even the toughest opponent since the 125mm is one of the most powerful guns, but overall it is probably not that effective. Its ergonomics is probably also quite poor since they upguned the tank so much.
@@TheDude50447 "No way of damaging the opponent". These comments from misinformed individuals that watch a poorly researched video (albeit made by a guy who does know tanks) about a tank that can one shot a Pakistani tank from 8 km away using a cannon launched ATGM.
There is a new 1500 HP diesel powered engine planned for Arjun which is being integrated. It would be great if you could assess the performance improvement with that CVDRE engine .
So, there is one point we need to consider: both tanks have flaws in their construction. Al-Khalid was made for 80's or 90's wars scenarios, when even the M1 Abrams or the Leopard 2 have no good fire control systems compared to today's. Arjun have serious flaws, like the side of the gunner periscope have almost no armour protection or the ammunition loaded on the rear side of the turret have none protection against ammunition wreck, if the enemy hit this spot, the entire crew will die due ammunition explosion. Personally, I do prefer Arjun, even I don't like it. The capability of commander's periscope turn 360 degrees can track multiple targets. The gunner can concentrate his attention to the main target and the commander can turn his independent periscope, searching for the next enemy. It's increased area of protection by ERA and it's modern composite armour can protect the crew from frontal hits better than Al-Khalid's. But, in terms of fire power, Al-Khalid is far away, having a better penetration of its APFSDS and more reliable ATGM, the Ukrainian Kombat, with its incredible 950mm of penetration.
It's basically superior firepower and mobilityvs Superior protection and detection system. This is basically a loop of debate. Arjun has gone for protection and advanced system to protect from tank rounds and AGTM at the cost of mobility and firepower which is opposite of how Pakistan gone for their tank.
In defense of the Arjun, the LAHAT missiles its gun can fire are actually pretty good and are more accurate than the Ukrainian Kombat missiles used on the Al-Khalid.
"reliable tank sources"? Maybe. But he does get a lot of stuff about Arjun wrong. For example: missing the fact that it has a cannon launched ATGM that gives it a massive advantage in firepower as it outranges Al Khalid by more than 4X. And then he makes the erroneous statement about how Arjun has difficulty going over soft ground when reality is that Arjun has lower ground pressure than a T-90.
Both tanks are simply make over of existing tanks, it is like saying Leo 2 is fairly new. No, they are heavily UPGRADED and those upgrades are new, granted, but they are reaching the peak of their development
@@armicv691 How are they reaching the peak of their development? Both tanks have upgraded variants in the pipeline. Also, just because something looks like something else, doesn't mean it is it.
@@abramar123 Al-Khalid and Arjun are built from the ground up, yes, but they are built using technologies from aging designs. Their performance right now is equivalent to a tank that was developed before them (T-72B-ish) and borderline obsolete when their first upgrades were introduced. Also T-72Bs are currently used by a lot of third world nations. The chassis are already overweight and difficult to upgrade without major financial means, of which neither Pakistan nor India can afford; and without affecting performance severely, to have NERA armor matching current more advanced tanks so their armour can take more than one hit.
@@armicv691 I will admit that neither the Al-Khalid or Arjun are remarkable tanks, but you are delusional, if you think tanks with modern FCS, Battle management systems, modern composites, modern ERA and modern engines are comparable to performance to a tank from 1985, that had shit gunner optics, no CITV, legacy composite armor and ERA, slower autoloader, less durable gun, and the crew ergonomics of a hamster ball.
which is why we went with T-90s but i'll have to say it's a good tank given it was our first try, hopefully we can improve on the tanks, besides we have around 158 Arjun 1A tanks around a 100 Arjun 2 tanks and is said to replace the much older T-72 by 2035, the latter is much better than the former and is on par with upgraded T-72. But half of our tank fleet is T-90 Bhishma which is quite adequate . It would be interesting to see how we move forward with our tanks.
@Yunus Mohammad well atleast you admit that this is a "great invention" , 😂😂 Not like al khaleed which is just a begged Chinese failed project 😂😂, just like jf 17 blunder 🤣🤣
I think the India tank is better if you consider the terrain it would be used in which is largely Arid Rajasthan, which I remember from 1971 War (just) an Indian General saying it was good tank country. i.e it can cope with heavy armour as there are few rivers to cross or soft ground. I assume Red Effect is Russian and therefore swamps and rivers are a major concern, which explains why Russian tanks are lighter than British Tanks which have mainly seen combat in Arid terrain since 1945, actually since 1941, in Europe they mainly use Shermans in 44/45. So 68 tons is not that big a concern for India whereas poor protection of the Al-Khalid is for Pakistan. From a Russia perspective the Challenger Megatron is a unthreatening tank, even though in defence it would probably win against even the T14 Armata, it would be too heavy in Russia with all its swamps and rivers to cross.
It seems to me that the easiest thing to upgrade would be the ammunition, so there's an easier upgrade path for the Arjun II. I'm sure Israel could help them create a better AFPDS round
Arjun has a sight in the front of the turret. Creating a weak point where you want the most armor protection. Front tutret is most easily hit in tank duel. Why not mount the sight on top of the turret where it does not create a weak point. It can turn and look over obstacles. That is 3 advantages you miss out on because of what I consider a design flaw.
Redesigning the sight on the (former) Leopard 2A4 on which the tank is based off on was actually quite the technological endeavor, not as easy as as it looks by any means. Thus it's only natural that India didn't go with it, they would be better of getting another tank since they would've had to replace all of those turrets.
Fair Assessment. Indian here. Both tanks are just about OK & Average and work in progress for India & Pakistan. We have a long way to go to reach Leopard 2A7, T14 Armata, m1a2 sep v4 standards. For Arjun, why we are using a 120mm rifled barrel gun ? And 300mm AFPSDS is not even Cold War quality ! For Al-Khalid, its effectively a Pakistani copy of a Chinese Copy of a Soviet design tank.
Biggest disadvantage of Arjun tank is overweight and low speed which makes it harder to fight against Chinese tanks in higher platform, now i see why india making new zorawar light tank. Arjun tank is like a fused version of Russian and German tank
Alkhalid is at best a T72++ and Arjun MK1 might be an early generation Leopard. The main strength will be the electronics sight and range finders mounted on them. India have western, israeli and indigenous systems while Pakistan can have only Chinese and indigenous ones. P.S : Bith of them doesn't have any active protection due to costs.
I'll definitely prefer Arjun...coz I knw wht it can do....to t-90's. Only problem with Arjun have is supply of spares...which can be solved if ordered in no's
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Make pt 91 twardy
Great video by the way
@@shashankshekhar9819 point number 1, 2, & 3, the point stands, "not in service yet"
How does Katchan Armour defeat a T90. Did the T90 drive in to it really fast. Any case maybe India should spend money cleaning it streets instead of tanks. I know people that grew up in the worst slums in South Africa that where disgusted and appalled by India. So the fact you bragging about the size of the cock on your tank is pathetic. Now go back to work fixing people's windows.
@@shashankshekhar9819 What you're planning on having in the future is irrelevant. What matters is what you have today because if you were to go to war today then you would fighting with less than ideal equipment and the enemy isn't going to be terrible obliging to that fact.
And don't boast that you could buy better equipment but haven't because then you're boasting that you haven't done the sensible thing. What a stupid retort.
This comment section is going to be a blast
yes
Ikr
Indeed
@Terminator well u just started the war
Terminator at least having no english comments is better than pajeets asking for bobs and vagana lol
India: Arjun the best !
Pak: Al khalid the best !
Wadiya: Aladeen MBT is the Aladeeenn of all tanks !
you have corona aladeen
Do you mean ADMIRAL GENERAL ALADEEN
Most Aladeen comment I've seen here
Aladeen madafaka!!!!!
Let me aladeen this
So in the end both tanks are equally bad
that's my take away.
Eh, just because it's not a top-of-the-line MBT, doesn't mean it's bad. Depending on the strategic situation a T-55 or Centurion can still be a decisive weapon, since any tank is leaps and bounds better than no tank. It's then up to the General staff to ensure that your tanks are in the right place at the right time.
@youcometome9 The IED's are pretty huge. Some a over a 100 kgs of Mortar rounds or high explosive. NATO has some of the best armoured tanks because of that. But I agree that they have not been hit by APFSDS projectiles since 3rd world nations don't have it.
@Dika Vinci That's true. However no one believes them until a miracle story of a M1 Abrams surviving a T14 Armata (still not in service) APFSDS projectile comes in a propaganda video. That is how the perception of a tank's ability plays out, the only tanks we trust are those battle tested ones. Forget the testing done on homeground against far more challenging conditions. It's more opinion than fact. Even you know that.
Probably better than the Abrams! Lmao
Al-Khalid: "I'm better than you!"
Arjun: "I'm better than you!"
Red: *"You're equally worthless"*
*Tank Gods : Who Tf created this abomination ?*
@@pranavvaishnave7648 *arjun fires with the round being a dud and not strong enough so its stuck between the wall*
*the Pakistan tank fires going through the roof because the commander cant see the house good enough*
@@medina5129 Arjun,s round won,t able to broke red,s house because of very weak penetration
PFP SAUCE.......RIGHT NOW!
@@aliarham6343 It seems their tanks aren't the only ones that suffer from very weak penetration.
So the advantages are:
Al-Khalid: Firepower and mobility.
Arjun: Fire control system and protection.
Dont they just counter each other?
Turks will fix fire controle systems for the Pak tank fleet soon
Yeah but its far ahead in firepower and mobility whereas Arjun only has slight edge in FCS and protection.
@@hadeedmalik719 for now , not for long as i just said , turkish "Volcan" FCS will be integrated soon in pak MBTs
Arjun don't even have the battle management system
Usually fire control system and protection are more important
Dude, you started a Subcontinent war,hahahaha! They are really passionate about their tanks!🥊
* *bold indian accent* "no matter what you say, ArJuN iS tHe WoRlD's BeSt TaNk AvAiLaBlE iN tHe MaRkEt"
Zayed Haroon better than begger Pakistan😂😂😂😂 not going to be selfdependent till 2050😂😂😂
@@paraginsomanic1178 poo in the loo pajeet!
Both tanks are shit
@Zayed Haroon no man I am a human!
Imagine that the Arjun's penetration was so bad that the Pakistanis decided to compensate for it by weakening armour.
Fair play and all, of course.
@@shiinaai2978 thank the British
Theetla Madhu
*Doesn't matter mate it's still a shitty tank , putting random armor on a tank that breaks down isn't gonna help lol*
Build a new one , this time hopefully Indian leadership won't fall
@@Proger-sj8cj Well make some good changes. As an Indian, first cover that damn hole. Second use Smoothbore, third make blast shields for ammunination so it doesn't explode and 4th like russia cover the tank with reactive armor and you get a nice tank
Well that shit tank survived a point blank shot from a t90 ya dumbfuck
Group 1: “Abrams!”
Group 2: “Leopard!”
Group 3: (insert any Soviet tank after T-62)
Kool Kids Klub: *Uruguayan M3 Stuarts*
Me, an intellectual: Bob semple
Depressed me: Leichter Ladungsträger Goliath
Barnacle head : arjun is the best supah powa 2020
@@josukehigashikata8690 I wanted to say that o well atleast i see some man of culture here
Group 4 : "Bob Semple Tank!"
Let's just hope he doesn't strike this one too...
that crybaby alphadefense must be irritated real bad. Hopefully he ain't gonna report your comment too lmao
*Curry Accent "I WiLL RePoRt ThiS bEcAuSe He ReViEwEd OuR sAcReD tAnK wItHoUt PeRmIsSiOn"
Bet he cant handle the criticism anymore, hahaha
@@creepydutchman fool first eatch the video... Also Red effect took links from Gaming sources could u even believe that.
th-cam.com/video/iW9Ka3Y8qMk/w-d-xo.html
Here's the video u decide.
@@rajatdani619 learn to type first. Ooooh wait, you're indian....
Everyone's commenting about how the comment section will turn into an Indo-pak war, but no Indians and Pakistanis are fighting in the comment section.
The indo pak war of 1971 was more of a bengali war. Try battle of chawinda
@@bobsempletank4322 i hope you learn some shit bengal was part o pakistan dumbass it was callled east pakistan before they got freedom after war
@@studymotivationyts problem is here bengal itself was fighting against the pakistanis under the name mukti bahini india joined in later after a few airfields and things were bombed in the western bit of india
@@bobsempletank4322 i doubt bangaldesh could have gained independence without help of india
@@JT-zl8yp ok ukrainian jew
India: Arjun is the best!
Pakistan: Al Khalid is the best!!!
Dj Khaled: We the best music! DJ Khaled!
You smart you very smart i appreciate dat!
Lol
But Tea Was Fantastic 👌
🤣🤣🤣
M AzLaan Abbas ask your country to bring people back from China. To make tea . We need more Servants like you
I am Indian. It is really difficult to find unbiased and good comparison of Indian tanks with others.
@Vladimir Putin I believe that modern tanks are way superior the WW2 ones, even if they are driven by idiots.
@Vladimir Putin not exactly my company, but a partner. If everything goes right then maybe with A9 or A10 version I could get a 130mm, but it is still the question if a 130mm or 140mm. If it becomes a 140mm then I can't take it.
@@Tankliker American is developing 140 mm. France and germany is developing 130 mm. See, there is a schism there
@@TheTeKuZa??? :D ???
I think your are not up to date. I personally don't know what new caliber the USA want to develope, I didn't even knew that they want that because I also don't know if the M1 Abrams turret can take a bigger gun the 120mm
But back to the topic. First of all not germany/France are developing a 130mm gun, Germany or to be more specific Rheinmetall defences is developing that thing on there own. I believe there are also no puplic information on what gun they will take in the end right now because France wants a 140mm gun. There was a attempt to use 140mm as an upgrade for the 120mm caliber lead by france/great Britain and Germany as a partner. The project in itself was never finished, Germany just used a longer gun barrel for the 120mm which made the 120mm as strong as they predicted the 140mm would be at the time. Also one problem would be that basically all leopards would have needed a new turret plus autoloader if the used one staged ammunition.
The only tank that I know can take a 140mm is the south Korean K2 black Phanter which was developed at the time the 140mm caliber was a hot topic, but because Europe dropped it they also just took the L/55.
@@TheTeKuZa USA tested a 140mm gun on Abrams and decided it was impractical and unnecessary.
The Indian army ordering T-90MS is honestly a great choice
Well Pakistan also ordered VT 4 MBT from china
@Zayed Haroon and some VT 4
@Zayed Haroon the oplot meme strikes again. You know it will take a long time for them to deliver them. I mean a just one battalion worth would be great but Boi Ukraine is not what you call pumping them out.
Ukraine technology not existing all Soviet are Russian _ oplot are upgraded t80 tank _ morozov was Russian constructor Russia send him for making work place and industry upgrade in Ukraine _ Antonov to was Russian constructor _ tolmachov created an225 _ kraz was zil's prototype _ also Russia build in Soviet republics institutes scientists .
Yeah is better than arjun
Ironic how this video actually manages to point out the plus points of the Arjun tank which all those biased Indian "analysts" never mention at all because of being busy with fallacy and misinformation to make the tank look better.
Imagine if the Indians used the experience from the Arjun to make a newer, better tank that was designed specifically to meet the requirements of Indian armed forces from the start. They can take the good aspects of Arjun like the fire control system and battlefield management systems while improving stuff like adding a better smoothbore gun, higher mobility and reduced weight.
They tried to do it and made TankX. It didn't get selected by the Indian army for some reason, iirc it was because it exceeded the maximum weight requirement
Well they will learn from their mistakes just like everyone else did once.
Next version of arjun is being made... Learning from shortcomings
@@historyandconspiracy6173 but it was on T72 chasis ...and due to funds it was stopped.
And about new Arjun mk1A watch this the source of war. And seriously this guy is serious dude.
th-cam.com/video/iW9Ka3Y8qMk/w-d-xo.html
Actually there is a program for Arjun Mk2(not to be confused with Arjun Mk1A or NGMBT) with significant weight reduction using HNS and aluminium wheels, a smoothbore gun, better crew protection. Probably also with a 3 man crew but its a toss up since Indian Mechanized forces are pretty disposed towards 4 man crew. A 1800hp engine is on work and will probably be online in 2 years. So the problem with mobility is solved.
Well India mainly uses Soviet built Upgraded models of T90 and T72s , Arjun was the first indegeniously made tank, hope they fix the issues in the next models
na dude, the deign flaws from the foundations meant that upgrading is pretty much not worthy as redesign the how thing yet considering the corruption and etc i doubt they can redesign and build a serviceable tank within 30 years
Wrong. India builds its own T-90 and they have a different armour than Russian or Soviet T-90s. Not saying that its superior to latest Russian T-90 models, but its superior to the earlier ones.
@@your_comrade7119 well we are already working on Arjun MK2 known as FMBT.
Like they were not satisfied with Arjun MK2 so renamed as ArjunMK1A
@@death_parade it has a licensed version of Relikt ERA
@@ChandranPrema123 it’s better off u guys just buy more t90ms from Russia instead of building ur own lol, it’s cheaper and more effective that way
Fact; Al khalid is not a Pakistani tank, it is mbt 2000 of China
That's not even a fact, it's shitty hate comment
@@asish4189 the chasis which ak is based on is Chinese, the gun and ammo is Pakistani while engine, ERA, ASPS is Ukrainian.
Stoo spreading lies
@@Khyber_1 So literally only two parts?
Whenever it comes to Indian Military Equipment vs Pakistani Military Equipment , it is more like Russian Technology vs Chinese Technology
India is now developing it's own and exporting while Pakistan still begging to China.
Pffffft. What nonsense.
@@HerrFreshthey can't make a motorcycle engine but can build jets and tanks?
@@pajeet_slayer
There's a difference between making a motorcycle engine and making a globally competitive motorcycle engine.
Any country can make a motorcycle engine up to the standards of the 1980s, but only Japan and Germany can make a 2024 quality motorbike engine.
@@pajeet_slayer yeah can't make a motorcycle engine but somehow India is the largest manufacturer of two wheelers in the world
Being Indian I appreciate an unbiased review of both tanks and I think Red has it. Arjun is a maiden effort at indigenization and to proclaim it the better is stupid.. It has its share of shortfalls and needs to improve with successive iterations. As for Al Khalid, I did expect it to have certain things going it's way with Chinese assistance but ultimately cost factor will always play a role in determining its prowess.... Thanks Red.
Others who call both tanks shitty need to remember that no country produced world class tanks in one go, especially given today's parameters. Secondly, it also depends on the crew on both sides. Indo Pak wars have had amazing tank battles, all thanks to the hardiest men manning them.
Arjun has to start somewhere. No first tank ever comes out perfect.
@@humansvd3269 FYI india makes Arjun, licensed t72 and t90s in same facility.
Earlier india also used to produce local variant of Centurin tanks.
@@SA-dk5zx That is true. I expect Arjun to be similar in role to challenger as a defensive command control tank with t90 and t72 as general purpose tanks to augment and go to where heavy tanks can't go.
Totally agreed sir well said 👍 👍
Good comment. See what my point is that India has the money all they have to do is do something to keep their educated people in their country and make them help their country. (Most of the graduated student leave India and go to west) India military has a pretty decent budget, in comparison, Pakistan gives a dime to their army(Yeah I called, the government of Pakistan needs to balance some stuff and the army needs to be given a much larger budget). So, both tanks did with what they had i.e. Al-Khalid excelled with the low budget while Arjun Excelled with many requirements by the military.
UN gonna intervene in this comment section when the "war" started
"Arjun's 68-tonne weight"
My Gods! That's practically as much as an American! I hope it doesn't have to go up any hills or over muddy terrain...
No hills obviously...just the himalayas. Jokes aside, we use the lighter T-90 Bhishmas for that, Arjuns have been put in the jaisalmer sector, a desert region where most of the tank battles between India and pak occur.
While Americans are a very overweight society claiming them to be 68 tons is a bit excessive.
Where on earth do you find hills and muddy terrain in the middle of thar desert? It's flat surface.
@@TheDude50447 r/woosh
@@alexm566 whoosh to you dumbwit this guy was just doing a fat joke and you didn't get it it's fine
These two tanks seem like the crew would make all the difference going head to head.
More like the doctrine. We Indians know Arjun is stupid. We use them to target soft armours, like trucks and APCs. For combating enemy armour, we mainly use the Jaguars loaded with CBU-105s, K9 Vajra TDs, mechanised infantry with ATGMs, and artillery. You don't use tanks to destroy tanks.
@@dragonstormdipro1013 well not those Tanks. but all those T90 would be pretty usefull to destroy some tanks.
@Rana Ali Akhtar Alam Khan That doesn't say anything. That Arjun tank has laser warning system which means it can detect and diverse the rounds in other way. That's a big advantage. Old school peneration rounds work but I doubt that if you hit that sight
Certainly, they would.
@Rana Ali Akhtar Alam Khan You're copying and pasting the same bullshit rhetoric on multiple threads regardless of context. I hope it makes you feel better. Enjoy the street shitting, you insecure zealot.
5:32 did that guy give us the middle finger? xD
Lol
ooooh man ......that literally kills me 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
No, you are just blind
Wtf
That’s it, I’m offended and will declare war on India 😡😡
Who would win?
The virgin Arjun Tank
Vs
The chad Bob Semple Tank
Bob semple tank.
y e s
Is it even a contest?
Bob semple, all attack vehicle dont stand a chance againts bob semple :v
You forgot the tonk
RedEffect: I have to be unbiased
proceeds to word everything so carefully and write a script that probably took him 3 full weeks to prepare.
Redffect should be a tank, why? Because he can Destroy tanks purely with words, so Imagen what would he do with tank rounds....
That still wouldnt make it biased though
@@a39tortoise40 I know, but he had to prepare rewrite edit etc his script so the alpha defense people wouldn't abuse him in the comments etc
@@a39tortoise40 I didn't say it did, did I?
Spoilers: It's a tie.
Arjun - 2 (protection and fire control system).
Al-Khalid - 2 (fire power and mobility).
@ahsan iqbal thats just like soviet vs nato
india being nato and pak being soviet
@ahsan iqbal Protection is also equally important.
If they are evenly matched, then the real difference will not be on paper, but in the training, skills and tactics used. The best tanks, but with bad tactics and training can lead to a loss.
I mean, let's be honest, if you took a t90ms, an m1a2 Abrams, and a Leo 2a7v, these three tanks could probably work together to shred dozens of these half-assed tanks...
Arjun is Good for Desert Fighting condition. In a Trail done by Indian army Arjun Mk1 out performed Russian T-90 in many aspects..
Though Arjun have Higher weight due to its Heavy Armour, but Over all pressure distribution in soil is Kuch lesser compared to T-90.
Don't forget Indian Army and Airforce always Favoured for Russian made Weapons..
If DRDO made 45 Tons Tank, they will say they need a Heavier tank with Better protection..
This comment sections gonna be more toxic than Chernobyl
More than 10× the radiation as Hiroshima bomb per hour
@@sannidhyabalkote9536 Fukushima nuclear reactor: Am I a joke to you?
Keto-carbonyl group has 1pai and 3 sigma bonds, SP^2 hybridisation, Trigonal planer geometry.
@@comradetiedanski6038 No
There are no fightings.
"You're delusional,Get him to the infrimary"
Sorry but you missed the most important quality that all tanks should be judged by. Which one looks cooler?
Ok, in that you have to give it to the Arjun, especially mk-1a.
@@manassurya2019 bhai it literally just looks like a ripoff leopard 2a4. and the leopard 2a4 isn't very nice to look at in the first place lol. the a5 and a6 with the wedge armor look much better. and the al khalid looks like a cheap version of a ztz99.
they both suck that's what🗿
😂@@manassurya2019
Arjun... looks like a bodybuilder.
so to simplify:
Arjun is a shield while Al Khalid is the sword
Arjun shield?
Do you know that few RPG 7 will destroy the tank?
@@aliarham6343 Tanks from 2nd World countries aren't exactly known for having the best armor. And RPG's can kill numerous targets dependent on the ammunition used.
Arjun is more like a cardboard shield. Way too many exposed areas.
Al Khalid would probably die to any other major MBT but it could definitely hold up to Arjun since 200mm penetration is super under powered.
@@1creeperbomb you mean 300.
Not that it makes any difference to an actual 3rd gen MBT.
Pretty sure the T-62 had better shell penetration
@@aliarham6343 I can clearly admit the fact that you've graduated from a madrasachap.
According to indian expert Arjun is a nightmare
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For the crew inside it.
Give the authentic sources.
@@supratiksaha2001 they just bark brother
@@supratiksaha2001 idiots are known to bark
@Rajiv Sharma dumb comment
@Sulaiman Sayyed haha who surrendered 90k soldiers after war Pakistani army did😂
Arjun: Im the best
Al-Khalid: no I'am the best
t-55 am1: finally something I am able to fight
m1a2: laughing
Then comes Talibans and ISIS with RPG-7 and Abrams flew to the Africa by putting the excuse of peace keeping mission.
T-55? You mean that tank that Indian Army has hundreds of in storage and yet it chooses to keep Arjuns in service?
One big advantage for Team-AK is numbers, we have hundreds of these things ready for war. The Arjun tank is just another case of perpetual developmental hell.
Granted India has alot of T90s so they are not lacking good tanks
India has T90s, thousands of them. India definitely has more tanks and better ones. But terrain and logistics are not on their side. Neither are other factors like their internal position right now with millions of protests and hundreds of separatist movements, plus China. Besides, AKs aren’t Pakistan’s best tanks, those would be T80UDs and the T84s they’re being upgraded to.
@Zayed Haroon
India seems to have over 250 of Arjun MBT (two variants), over 1600 of T-90 variants with an additional order that would put them over 2000 of T-90 variants, and 2000+ T-72 variants.
Pakistan seems to have 350 of Al-Khalid MBT, 320 T-80 variants, 500 Al-Zarrar, and under 1000 older variants of Chinese origin.
Even with Pakistan adding 600 T-90s, I do not understand how the MBTs comparison comes close.
That's the same across the board it appears.
IFV, APC, artillery, etc.
@Zayed Haroon do you think Russia will risk their relationship with India for a very politically unstable country I don't think so .also that deal.was cancelled and Pakistan is currently looking at Chinese tanks
Murtaza your tank vs german Leopard 2 is also not a tank more a target practice
I saw it in the news that Arjun tank is still a prototype and the army doesn't want it on the field because of it's overweight and it is unreliable on mountain warfare.
"News". Pffffffffft.
@@death_parade what kind of news are we talking about? Because we don't have Indian news channel in germany
@@theindo-germanguy8817 News across the world is propaganda these days. Want the truth? Use the internet and official websites. News says "Arjun is still a prototype"? Then google whether its in Indian Army's ORBAT. When you do, you'll find that:-
43rd Armoured Regiment and 75 Armoured Regiment in 140 Armoured Brigade, 12th Infantry Division, XII Pivot Corps, Southern Command, Indian Army are both units of 62 Arjun Mk1 each.
Next you'll find Official Government of India press release (at PIB) stating the placement of order of a further 118 Arjun Mk1A tanks.
In total, that is 242 Arjun tanks that have been ordered by Indian Army. That is more than the number of Challenger 2 tanks in British Army service. Hence proved, Arjun is not "just a prototype".
@@death_parade thanks for the info
Who would use a MBT in mountain warfare ? Define overweight for a tank.
*Battle of Asal Uttar*
Pakistan: Backed by USA had the world's best tank (of the time) The Patton tank.
India: Had WW2 Sherman tanks and Challenger tanks brought from USA and UK at scrap value.
Guess who won?
*INDIA*
(India killed so many Patton tanks that the place even today is known as Patton Nagar.)
It's pointless even if you give Pakistanis Abrams tank. They are just not trained enough due to lack of funds.
DAMN , I SEEN IT ON WIKI . BRUTAL INDIAN VICTORY.
@@linamar123456 you should look at Battle of Longewala then.
@33kaus holokaust That's what I said... they r not trained enough. You just can't send men with stuff on a battlefield. doesn't work like that.
Sherman’s can penetrate late-cold war era tanks,makes sense.
Its skill that matters am i right?
I just dont see how a 300mm penetration shell can kill the Al-Khalid from the front, and with that much weight its very difficult to flank and attack it from the sides.
Arjun has a newer round with 530 mm penetration. And there is the entire fact of Arjun being able to fire ATGM from main gun.
@@death_parade the gun is rifled though lol, what atgm dies it fire? also what range and angle does it pen 530mm at?
Al Khalid amour is very weak bro
@@1KosovoJeSrbija1 Its possible to fire APFSDS from a rifled gun.
It fires a DRDO CLGM a.k.a. SAMHO
The 530mm penetration is LOS thickness, not thickness of plate.
@@death_parade yes, these have been completely ignored. By the time next video comes Arjun will have some more cool stuff.
I visited India recently for their defence expo in Gajarat.
The spokesperson at the arjun exhibit pretty much explained that while they now have the option to do so, there's no point in installing a smoothbore gun on it as only a few hundred units of the tank exist and their military is planning to use HESH rounds + barrel launched ATGMs(Israeli LAHAT or an Indian one which was just tested) till a new tank is developed.
Technically, there is a point to it. Not only would it save up on cash by using already existing weapons/ammunition, but a single-piece 125mm ammunition being developed would greatly aid in any future modernizations/upgrades to it's T-72 and T-90 tanks. Quite honestly, I am shocked no country that operates the 125mm smoothbore has done this.
When the two special aid children have a battle between who can eat more crayons in 1 minute...
XD LMAO
Lamoooo
The Arjun is just a mobile armoured call-centre
Thank you for the racist reply . Much appreciated.
@@sidharthmohanty6434 Where's the racism? It's a fact that almost 40% of call centre employees are Indian.
And al khalid is a mobile begging vessel😂
@@statusofficials6227 ahahaha so funny
@@sidharthmohanty6434 lmfao dumb shit
Just gonna watch some 'tank expert' start fighting *grab popcorn
pop corn anyone?
Where the Pepsi and Coca-Cola? We need that as well.
@@Mr-Ad-196 wanna grab some beer?
@@ragilpandukurniawan hrmmm neh I preferred coca cola or Pepsi.
Give me
They're both bizarre merges of Western and Eastern design for sure.
Love that you made the video, but there’s a little thing I’d like to correct (I’m not one of the salty ones, just want to share the little knowledge I have too. I enjoy the content). I have driven the AK and have been around it during Pakistani military exercises.
The thing about AKs armor needs some explanation; The Pakistanis have a few hundred AKs that have either Full ERA or Varta+Hull ERA which belong to the “ready” regiments. (Strike regiments as the Pakistanis call them). So they wouldn’t necessarily have to start installing ERA on hundreds of tanks when a war starts, they would have a few ready while they put it on the others, the reason for this is probably costs and availability. So in a fight it would have that ERA. (I have pictures if you want to see them.)
All AKs and even the Al-zarrars Pakistan has do have laser warning receivers. LTS786P made by GIDS. (You can find a link to that on their website).
Newer AKs (the one in the video when you were talking about it’s mobility) have third generation thermals for the gunner from SAGEM.
Pakistan also has the Chinese 125-3 projectiles. Not sure about availability.
Interesting. I guess 10th Armoured corps have them.
How much pen does the chinese 125-3 have?
Ok billal
@@hamadtoseef3953 Chinese 125mm 3
With penetration above 600mm.
No one's gonna talk about how Arjun can't actually penetrate the front of Al Khalid while Al Khalid has a pretty good chance of penetrating Arjun.
Also i'm Vietnamese and T-90s reign supreme hahahahahah
@Anshuman Mukherjee I mean, the Mk.1 APFSDS shell has a penetration of 300mm at 2km so...
Yeah but as Red Effect has pointed out, you don't need to fully penetrate a tank to take it out of action. It's a situational advantage in general and the crew of the Al-Khalid would have to carefully make use of it.
@@TheNicestPig Arjun has tested DRDO FSPADS Mk2 which can pen bit more than 530mm (actual range classified), enough to pen frontal of an Al Khalid from 2 km away.
Plus, Al Khalid's 600mm round can only go through the hole in Arjun's armour, which is the gun sight. Other areas are as well protected as a T-90 (meaning a 600mm pen isn't enough).
Not to mention the fact that Arjun can launch an 8 km ATGM from its main cannon.
TBH I wished they hadn't mucked up Arjun's development as much as they did, but against Al Khalid its sufficient.
@@death_parade keyword being "tested", the round isn't in service.
The gun sight, AND the gun shield, which together makes up a significant portion of the turret profile. That's a pretty big problem.
@@TheNicestPig The round is entering in service for T-90 and T-72 already. Orders have been placed to a private Indian company. It won't take long before it enters production for Arjun as well. It will take longer for Pakistan to get out of the current economic, social and political strife its in right now. Meaning that by the time Pakistan is ready for war next, India will have that round in service across its tank fleet.
Agree about the gun sight and mantlet problem. Its a big weak spot. A weak spot that is as weak as Al Khalid's entire frontal armour (forget 30 degrees sidecheeks or the hull front). So for Arjun, its a weak spot on an otherwise strong armour while for Al Khalid its no weak spots because the entire frontal armour is weak.
Did you get your arjun critique back or is it still under "copyright" ?
Someone said it was back up but got taken down again. I have not seen it back up yet so either it's still being reviewed or the said poster was mistaken.
I think Al-Khalid is better. The infrastructures of both countries are not really good, and IMO is far important to have tanks able to be transported than having a better FCS which wouldn't be usable if the tank cannot be transported to the combat zone.
We also have to put them in the infantry support role, where I would really prefer the Al-Khalid tank for its variety of HE projectiles and ATGMs.
No, I'm not pakistani, I'm a spaniard trying to give my unbiased opinion about these tanks (just in case)
The infrastructure on Indian side is now adequate for the Arjun . India also have developed the logistics to deploy the Arjun meaningfully.
@@suvrajyotigupta2368 certainly appears to be so ;)
6:08 this biggest disappointment is that Arjun is equipped with 120mm Rifle gun where most modern MBTs r equipped with Smoothbore guns expect UK Challengers2 which is another crap itself.
The biggest postive is that we at least made it by our self....not like doing paint job which most of there equipment r done
Arjun mk1A's rifled gun has higher muzzle velocity than the standard older Riflled guns. It can also fire ATGM. So not too bad.
The new Challenger also has a smoothbore gun. Rifled guns only benefit HESH which is almost completely obsolete now.
0:27 RIP to headphone users.
😁
Wait the thing you missed was pmc
Those can penetrate around 510to 520 mm
We all know that arjun is heavier and under powered but those issues are being solved
Arjun is not underpowered, it's mobility is literally it's best feature.
The Al-Khalid tanks have mostly been upgraded to Al-Khalid I and II, which feature significant improvements.
Sher e Pakistan still trash by modern standards
And the Arjun’s new from, the Arjun MK1A is proven to be as capable as the T90.
Still sh*t
@@kaydenchan7093 what t-90? T-90a hahaha stop joking
@@wheee1235 not joking boi
Arjun is just better
Nope.
Going forward the advantage goes to the Al-Khalid by a large margin as the upgrade for it already exists in the form of the Chinese VT-4 with superior firepower, fire control, protection, and mobility. Existing production line can just switch over to the VT-4.
Upgrading the Arjun to match it would be no simple matter. That 120mm rifled gun is unique to India being a one piece ammo design. It therefore cannot take advantage of advances in 120mm smoothbore or British rifled ammo. Plus being too heavy for Indian rail and bridges means there's no way to improve protection without upgrading infrastructure itself.
That is why India almost never uses them. T90s are the dominant ones.
m1A1abrahm tank is of 68 ton category and was able to move better in iraqi desert than t72 also riffled guns provide a revolving effect to projectile also arjun weight is due to kanchan armour and era panels which could defeat even israeli armour piercing fin stabilized anti tank round also arjun featured plane type telescopic suspension allowing it to uniformly distribute its weight to match speed arjun pitted against t90 tank was able to withstand five rounds directly fired at it with point blank range also the youtuber is unaware that arjun could fire heat hesh israeli lahat missile plus indian developed tandem charged depleted uranium round
@@amit_achrekar411 ok so what is all of that Israeli? Israel don't have the best things on the world, usa got better
Also modern HE is enough no need hesh
@@kast7n336 comparing without proper knowledge the youtuber did not what arjun could fire as far you asked regarding heat round which is just high explosive antitank round could be defeated by modern composite armour as kachan armour can provide up to 1800mm or much higher as kanchan upgraded mark2 armour provides more superior then mark1 as far israeli systems are concerned they are world class as seen from spice250 smart jdam used in balakot😀😀😀😀😀
@Donald Trump lol tank expert
All aboard the shitstorm express !
Choo choooo
@Tushar Bhardwaj Can't stop me ! kek
Both India and Pakistan should focus more on their economic development than pointing guns at each other.
India is focused on economic development than our arch enemy
@@mrnobody4033 I hope you guys are, cuz I really like India as a country, especially the culture.
@@mrnobody4033 stop lying pakistan has a better airforce, it shot down one of your planes and your economy is based on industrial complex that is dying out soon.. both of u 3rd world shithole needs to focus on new stuff
@@abdulazizbahmed333 Indians also shot down Pakistani fighter as well. India lost MiG-21 and Pakistan lost F-16
@@darthimperius8057 US department of defence checked on the F-16 claim and it was false, their fleet wasn't harmed not a single missing, you fell for Indian propaganda
Grabs popcorn
@42 nope
@Zayed Haroon illuminati, Bilderburg they're all the same in the end.
@42 th-cam.com/video/56OhXUuY2RE/w-d-xo.html
This is coming from a governer
@42 haha, "terrorists"
Al-Khalid is in mass production. Pakistan has 600 Al-Khalids on order. Arjun on the other hand has never entered full scale production.
That said, Al-Khalid is Pakistan's 1st experiment with Tank production. The next iteration of Al-Khalid block-2 will feature 1500hp engine, redesigned turret system, upgraded FCS, datalink and software.
1st experiment model 🤣🤣it just a pakistani version of chinese type 96IIM (MBT 2000) its export to other foreign countries by the name of VT 1A , pakistani has only developed its 125 mm barrel and its sabot round in this tank after few years, this tank is no longer in production since ukraine is not manufacturing the engine anymore
the mk2 here is actually mk 1a. the real mk 2 will be much better
@@crazyjester993 That's what an experimental model means.... You take something that is pretty tested and try to make it yourself....
@@crazyjester993 Arjun is a version of the leapard 1.
Munde Rex* leopard 2A4-2A5
Alkaleed needs oil to come to borders😂They will beg for oil in their bagging silver bowels😂
Bro can’t even spell 💀
@@netsimam but you still have a begging bowl😉
What
your mother had a begging bowl
Basically the main motive of the production of Arjun tank was to counter abrams or to just hold in the front of abrams as in 1973 war it was it was a report that as Pakistan have got a f- 16 they can also get abrams from USA
Not really, India wished to diversify production away from Russia. It is the Indian idea of a Leopard.
In a perfect World, junks like us would not exist, but this is not a perfect Woooooorrlld
*T 72 FLASHBACK*
Does belka make tanks too or just airplanes ?
African T55s show their gratitude to you!
@@ShadowcatAlfa Everything
@@shatteredstar2149 absolutly everything
@RedEffect
2nd gen thermal gunner sight are being replaced by Segem 3rd Gen .. which is a great leap in capability
I agree that deficiencies in armour are there
In 1965 Indo Pak war , outdated British Centurion tanks defeated American Paton tanks in the battle of Asal Uttar , in 1973 Yom Kippur war Israel defeated Soviet made Egyptian tanks , there is something called MAN BEHIND THE MACHINE .
Thats only of the difference in technology & skill is minimum.
U cant expect a lewis hamilton to win using a maruti 800 against a normal driver in f1 car.
well, those Cents had 12 degress of gun depression while the Soviet made tanks only had like 5 degress of elevation.
the Israeli TC known that their tanks had no chance agaist the Tank fleet heading towards them so they decided to use the terrain at their adventage, but know, things have changed.
You have infantry with anti-Tank weapons, drones, planes, ETC. while during the 70's the only problem was another tank becouse anti-tank guns were pretty bad agaist MBTs
@@dranzergigs8333
bad example.
driving a F! is absolutely nothing like driving a normal car, Unless the driver had prior training, it;s unlikely would even be able to drive it at all.
As a pakiatani I have to say that I don't care what we do as I would prefer peace with my neighbour
Well said, I hope this fanwar overnationalism stops
Arjun: I am better!
Al-Khalid: No! I am better!
Leopard: amateurs
Arjun: What was that, punk?
Leopard: AMATEURS!!!
This is gonna be fun. Lemme grab some popcorn
Hey buddy😂
Interesting points but few observations.
1. Arjun's new ammunition has addressed the low penetration issue (since 2016)
2. Arjun's ground pressure is 0.84 kg /sq m compared to 0.9 kg/sq m of al khalid despite being heavier.
3. Arjun power to weight ratio is 24hp/ton compared to 26 hp / ton for Al khalid in real world not that big a difference.
4. Both have max speed of ~70km/hr
5. Arjun has got hydro-pneumatic suspension compared to torsion bar in Al khalid
In terms of mobility both are near matched but, for first hit probability and accuracy on the move arjun is way superior.
Eh, still shit.
@@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 eh..., 🤔
I think you are Still SHIT.😂😆😀
🖕🖕😏
👍👍👌😏 Arjun MBT is included in one of the Best tanks in the world.
These Western people are ...
live in still Shit minds.
@@dhananjaysonawane574 give me the list, watch redeffects vid on the arjun. It cant hold a candle to the leopard 2 or t90 or even t80 and the abrams
@@icedwhitechocolatemochafra9851 t80 is crap , t90 is over rated though lepord2 is in another league. BTW 'Krauss Maffei' provided design assistance in Arjun project so one can see Leopard 2 inspiration in it.
Any one claming it best is as dishonest as some one calling it shit. It's a decent enough modern tank, issue with indian forces is old and huge russian hardware like t72 which is difficult to replace at once and of course the Soviet doctrine using Soviet machines. With modernization both needs to be ditched. (And that will always include logistic changes for any new machine, equally true if india imports Abraham's or leopard 2 itself)BTW Arjun has better creature comfort and safety than a t90. It performed equal or better than t90 on most count even when t90S was tested with relaxed params and arjun with harsh params, that itself speaks volumes of it. BTW T90 is a decent machine but not something as good as it's modern western counterparts.
I think in areas like the north, the Al Khalid would have an advantage, since it'd be able to move about in the harsh terrain easier, also crossing the hundreds of bridges in those regions, however the Arjun could possibly perform better at night or during dust storms, thanks to its in built Thermal Vision
140 Armoured Brigade, 12th Infantry Division, XII Pivot Corps has two Arjun tank regiments will lead India's IBGs in the Thar Desert.
Contrary to popular beliefs, Arjun has a lower ground pressure than T-90.
Arjun is primarily deployed in the Rajasthan border.
Al-Khalid I - Upgraded variant with Ammunition capacity increased to 49 125 mm rounds, 1,500 12.7 mm rounds and 7,100 7.62 mm rounds.[3][6] Incorporates modifications made to the fire-control system, sensors, IBMS, side-skirts, track pads, auto-loader (rate of fire increased to 9 rounds per minute), Ukrainian Varta electro-optical jammer (disrupts laser rangefinders, laser designators and anti-tank guided missile tracking systems), Sagem third-generation thermal imagers and improved air conditioning system first batch already inducted
As a Pakistani my advice to you is not to do any review on any Pak-Indo stuff cuz both countries get salty really quick and it has a history behind it to get salty.
on the lighter note (people who play tank games will know what i am saying): Russian tanks are OP, they need a nerf xD
Anyway I love your review cuz I love tanks
and lastly, i apologize on behalf of all Pakistani who may write a bad comment.
Himalayan salt, best salt.
@@noxDOTevolvedDOTgmai fun fact, that is also in Pakistan. Hahaha
@Zayed Haroon agreed my brother
"Guys, guys, guys... You're both terrible!"
Señor RedEffect, I've an idea for your next video! I once saw a Chinese Type 59 in Tanzanian service, and it appears to be somewhat modernized. It would be cool to make a video about it and to see if it would fare well in modern combat (I doubt they could take on a modern MBT tho... Or could they?)
It has a new turret that features the gun and tech of Type96 tank. It also got some new composite and reactive armor. So in terms of firepower it can definitely take on even the toughest opponent since the 125mm is one of the most powerful guns, but overall it is probably not that effective. Its ergonomics is probably also quite poor since they upguned the tank so much.
Honestly, if they just replaced the gun on Arjun with a smoothbore similar to a nato 120 or russian 125 it would instantly become so much better
Yeah its generally better to have no armor but the capability to kill the enemy than having armor but no way of damaging the opponent.
@@TheDude50447 "No way of damaging the opponent". These comments from misinformed individuals that watch a poorly researched video (albeit made by a guy who does know tanks) about a tank that can one shot a Pakistani tank from 8 km away using a cannon launched ATGM.
@@death_parade thats a general statement. Its better to have firepower thats effective than good armor but no effective firepower.
@@TheDude50447 Alright, my bad.
The Al-Khalid may be a little bit more effective and practical but the Arjun wins because it looks much more cooler.
only correct conclusion
He wanted views from India and Pakistan without hurting their sentiments
For countries starting out not bad. As a Pakistani I would say Indian MBT would become much better because Pakistan is not doing so well right now.
I'm trying to imagine "Girls and Panzer" driving Indian and Pakistani tanks
No don't do that don't give us hope
Y E S
There is a new 1500 HP diesel powered engine planned for Arjun which is being integrated. It would be great if you could assess the performance improvement with that CVDRE engine .
Lol my full name is Al Khalid 😂 turns out i was named after a tank 😅 what a flex
Arjunk lol
Inshallah boys get fucked well😂
Haha
@Mubasher Shahzad Abbe harmonium, hum abba haye tumhare
@@dragonstormdipro1013 LMAOOO nice reference
@Anonymous user & you are our SHITHOLE
So, there is one point we need to consider: both tanks have flaws in their construction. Al-Khalid was made for 80's or 90's wars scenarios, when even the M1 Abrams or the Leopard 2 have no good fire control systems compared to today's. Arjun have serious flaws, like the side of the gunner periscope have almost no armour protection or the ammunition loaded on the rear side of the turret have none protection against ammunition wreck, if the enemy hit this spot, the entire crew will die due ammunition explosion.
Personally, I do prefer Arjun, even I don't like it. The capability of commander's periscope turn 360 degrees can track multiple targets. The gunner can concentrate his attention to the main target and the commander can turn his independent periscope, searching for the next enemy. It's increased area of protection by ERA and it's modern composite armour can protect the crew from frontal hits better than Al-Khalid's. But, in terms of fire power, Al-Khalid is far away, having a better penetration of its APFSDS and more reliable ATGM, the Ukrainian Kombat, with its incredible 950mm of penetration.
It's basically superior firepower and mobilityvs Superior protection and detection system. This is basically a loop of debate. Arjun has gone for protection and advanced system to protect from tank rounds and AGTM at the cost of mobility and firepower which is opposite of how Pakistan gone for their tank.
In defense of the Arjun, the LAHAT missiles its gun can fire are actually pretty good and are more accurate than the Ukrainian Kombat missiles used on the Al-Khalid.
This is one of the most reliable tank Sources. This channel needs More views and subs. Luv your vids😃
"reliable tank sources"? Maybe. But he does get a lot of stuff about Arjun wrong. For example: missing the fact that it has a cannon launched ATGM that gives it a massive advantage in firepower as it outranges Al Khalid by more than 4X.
And then he makes the erroneous statement about how Arjun has difficulty going over soft ground when reality is that Arjun has lower ground pressure than a T-90.
You have to remember both these tanks are fairly new, and could probably be upgraded to have better armor, ammunition and mobility.
Both tanks are simply make over of existing tanks, it is like saying Leo 2 is fairly new. No, they are heavily UPGRADED and those upgrades are new, granted, but they are reaching the peak of their development
@@armicv691 How are they reaching the peak of their development? Both tanks have upgraded variants in the pipeline. Also, just because something looks like something else, doesn't mean it is it.
@@abramar123 Al-Khalid and Arjun are built from the ground up, yes, but they are built using technologies from aging designs. Their performance right now is equivalent to a tank that was developed before them (T-72B-ish) and borderline obsolete when their first upgrades were introduced. Also T-72Bs are currently used by a lot of third world nations. The chassis are already overweight and difficult to upgrade without major financial means, of which neither Pakistan nor India can afford; and without affecting performance severely, to have NERA armor matching current more advanced tanks so their armour can take more than one hit.
@@armicv691 I will admit that neither the Al-Khalid or Arjun are remarkable tanks, but you are delusional, if you think tanks with modern FCS, Battle management systems, modern composites, modern ERA and modern engines are comparable to performance to a tank from 1985, that had shit gunner optics, no CITV, legacy composite armor and ERA, slower autoloader, less durable gun, and the crew ergonomics of a hamster ball.
@@komradearti9935 Some sources said that kanchan is an modernization of cobaham brits used 20 years ago.
which is why we went with T-90s but i'll have to say it's a good tank given it was our first try, hopefully we can improve on the tanks, besides we have around 158 Arjun 1A tanks around a 100 Arjun 2 tanks and is said to replace the much older T-72 by 2035, the latter is much better than the former and is on par with upgraded T-72. But half of our tank fleet is T-90 Bhishma which is quite adequate . It would be interesting to see how we move forward with our tanks.
You guys have south korean and french tanks? No?
One difference between Arjun and al khaleed
Al khaleed is a chinese tank
And Arjun is a 100% indegenious tank
@Yunus Mohammad begged ,borrowed and copied 🤔
Why the hell are you telling me Pakistan's forighn policy 😂😂😂🤣
@Yunus Mohammad aah this jelousy 😂😂, should I bring some burnol
@Yunus Mohammad well atleast you admit that this is a "great invention" , 😂😂
Not like al khaleed which is just a begged Chinese failed project 😂😂, just like jf 17 blunder 🤣🤣
@Yunus Mohammad Not better than your 15th generation flying goats
@@jaanvichaudhary9073 LMAOOOOOOOOOOO
I think the India tank is better if you consider the terrain it would be used in which is largely Arid Rajasthan, which I remember from 1971 War (just) an Indian General saying it was good tank country. i.e it can cope with heavy armour as there are few rivers to cross or soft ground. I assume Red Effect is Russian and therefore swamps and rivers are a major concern, which explains why Russian tanks are lighter than British Tanks which have mainly seen combat in Arid terrain since 1945, actually since 1941, in Europe they mainly use Shermans in 44/45. So 68 tons is not that big a concern for India whereas poor protection of the Al-Khalid is for Pakistan.
From a Russia perspective the Challenger Megatron is a unthreatening tank, even though in defence it would probably win against even the T14 Armata, it would be too heavy in Russia with all its swamps and rivers to cross.
he's serbian
The tank at 2:42 is the export version MBT 2000 with era package. It’s a Bangladesh army tank so maybe they chose extra era as option
It seems to me that the easiest thing to upgrade would be the ammunition, so there's an easier upgrade path for the Arjun II. I'm sure Israel could help them create a better AFPDS round
Israeli are a bitch brother
Hope drdo could work something out with Germans and French
I salute your bravery, hope this video will not be taken down.
same tarkin
*prolonged silence @6:17
"because it is really short"
Red effect roasting indians
Its just a really short penetrator you know
@@TeleportingBread161 ikr
@youcometome9 i wonder if arjun has portable toilet or if you must find a street to shit on.
does we care abt that having defeated pak in all wars we had with them😂😂😂😂😂
@@GEXGE11 I wonder if you have access to news or just a troll.
Arjun has a sight in the front of the turret. Creating a weak point where you want the most armor protection. Front tutret is most easily hit in tank duel. Why not mount the sight on top of the turret where it does not create a weak point. It can turn and look over obstacles. That is 3 advantages you miss out on because of what I consider a design flaw.
That big spot is covered by thick composite materials.
Redesigning the sight on the (former) Leopard 2A4 on which the tank is based off on was actually quite the technological endeavor, not as easy as as it looks by any means. Thus it's only natural that India didn't go with it, they would be better of getting another tank since they would've had to replace all of those turrets.
Fair Assessment. Indian here. Both tanks are just about OK & Average and work in progress for India & Pakistan. We have a long way to go to reach Leopard 2A7, T14 Armata, m1a2 sep v4 standards. For Arjun, why we are using a 120mm rifled barrel gun ? And 300mm AFPSDS is not even Cold War quality ! For Al-Khalid, its effectively a Pakistani copy of a Chinese Copy of a Soviet design tank.
Biggest disadvantage of Arjun tank is overweight and low speed which makes it harder to fight against Chinese tanks in higher platform, now i see why india making new zorawar light tank.
Arjun tank is like a fused version of Russian and German tank
Make a video about Osório’s tank: the Brazilian tank that surpassed M1 Abrams in tests
South African's Elefant too
What variant of M1 Abram?
T-55s are better than some Abrams buddy.
@@lolasdm6959 Ok buddy
Ig u missed on the specialty of the arjun mbt
*Spam calling the enemy tank's crew*
Arjun mk2 laugh at the side corner 😂 new Arjun mk2 is best
❤
Arjun mk.2 number built: 23
Al Khalid 2: 234
@@netsimam Arjun mk1A and Arjun mk2 number off build 127 Arjun mk2 build 48
And only one Arjun mk2 can destroyed Pakistani 100 of Al Khalid Tanks
Arjun has a newly developed 1500 hp engine and automatic transmission.
Alkhalid is at best a T72++ and Arjun MK1 might be an early generation Leopard. The main strength will be the electronics sight and range finders mounted on them. India have western, israeli and indigenous systems while Pakistan can have only Chinese and indigenous ones. P.S : Bith of them doesn't have any active protection due to costs.
Bob Semple Tank is the best!
If it comes to personal preference, then I prefer the Russian T-90. 😁😁
me too , a far better tanks in all criteria like weight , firepower , armour
Hard choise between the T-90M and the Type-99A🤔
I'll definitely prefer Arjun...coz I knw wht it can do....to t-90's.
Only problem with Arjun have is supply of spares...which can be solved if ordered in no's
What about the cost comparison though? Research and unit price is important too for fielding them
None of them can beat M1-abrahams 💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾💪🏾🫡🫡🫡🫡
Torque doesn't affect acceleration as long as the gear and final drive ratio is correct. Horsepower is what decides how fast a vehicle accelerates.
torque decides accelaration while horsepower decided the top speed, both can be greatly aided by a correct gear ratio.