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  • @JonathanSchrantz
    @JonathanSchrantz  ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Monkey_King is also a TH-camr! Check him out: th-cam.com/channels/EdhRFVmmLpe90CaMNnYpHg.html

  • @treasonouspigeonpeckers957
    @treasonouspigeonpeckers957 ปีที่แล้ว +65

    I haven't played the Wagon Gambit but I did win with that really bad English Gambit you told me not to play.

  • @HighlyCruciferous
    @HighlyCruciferous ปีที่แล้ว +18

    This is awesome ! A pity Black didnt get a better result, though. The Ra4 ressource is really stylish, it crops up in several other lines as well. The variations you show, in particular the Queen sac are truly brilliant, no matter if they are computer generated.
    Another idea that I"ve had some fun with in the past is ...Ra5 rather than ...Qe7 to support the recapture on e5 in a different manner.
    Usually not the objectively best line, but obviously that's not the point of the gambit.

  • @bladmorane7613
    @bladmorane7613 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    GREAT STUFF , DONE VERY GOOD VIDEO !!!!!!

  • @caideushex5204
    @caideushex5204 ปีที่แล้ว

    I learn more about Chess from Jonathan than I do any other online Chess Wizard and without the attitude and ego. Thank you!!

  • @jedinxf7
    @jedinxf7 ปีที่แล้ว

    every time. I think you've exhausted the possibilities of this opening you show an absolutely absurd variation. if only I had the cojones to play it and compliant opponents lol

  • @toodle361
    @toodle361 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great analysis Jonathan. Keep up the good work

  • @icedragon5743
    @icedragon5743 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    MONKEY KING MISSED M4 BRO

  • @colegieseking5136
    @colegieseking5136 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It’s so difficult for me to accept that the wagon gambit actually has some merits. I look at it and just think “you dumb wagon, you’ll never be good for anything.”

    • @jedinxf7
      @jedinxf7 ปีที่แล้ว

      same lol but this game had an awesome beginning

  • @theuseraccountname
    @theuseraccountname 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Really nice gambit, thanks for sharing! Lots of tactics at play here.

  • @BobChess
    @BobChess ปีที่แล้ว +1

    We should ban Wagon Gambit. This is too overpowered

  • @eirikeiken
    @eirikeiken ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just wanted to say that I love your content man. Dubious gamits is what brings me the most joy in chess by far and your videos are the holy grail when it comes to this. Your caro kann trap in particular has netted me a bunch of wins. :D

  • @arslanovchessshow
    @arslanovchessshow ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hi:D

  • @chemicalexposure8537
    @chemicalexposure8537 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    WE LOVE WAGON GAMBIT! WE LOVE WAGON GAMBIT!

  • @jacksonb4050
    @jacksonb4050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey man I have 2 gambits that are named in the chess database that nobody had ever played! There not complicated! If you could do a video on one of these that would be great!
    Van geet Düsseldorf gambit: Nc3 c5 b4
    Kings fianchetto opening Lasker simul special vankuijic gambit: g3 h5 nf3 h4

    • @danielsmerdel8214
      @danielsmerdel8214 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's quite the impressive name for a gambit - referring to the second of course

  • @jacobpope9269
    @jacobpope9269 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Guess you could say Monkey King hopped on the BANDWAGON!? AMIRITE?

  • @gregorymorse8423
    @gregorymorse8423 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Did you know that if you beat an opponent 10 consecutive times with this gambit, it's called a "bandwagon adoption"

  • @georgewashington895
    @georgewashington895 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There is gambit called the maddigan gambit that is very similar to the wagon and the Budapest. You should defiently make a video on it

  • @SocialSophia
    @SocialSophia ปีที่แล้ว +1

    *Why don't they just make SGM a real title?*

  • @jaybingham3711
    @jaybingham3711 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Understandable...but being the proximate cause of a 1000% impact...and at the highest levels!?Much cooler and spectacular than 50k subs...or even 100k. Big kudos to you! Very impressive.

  • @pkopium4631
    @pkopium4631 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:44 a force check mate after wrxd2, Qb1 check nice game

    • @Backtomonarchy
      @Backtomonarchy ปีที่แล้ว

      good point but white can answer that with Qb1+, Ne1, QxRa1... white wins easily.... but Qb1+, R7d1, and Queen has to retreat...

    • @lingling89308
      @lingling89308 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      only checkmate if white takes the queen. white doesnt need to take the queen.

  • @ganrimmonim
    @ganrimmonim ปีที่แล้ว

    Going to try this.

  • @bababooeu7539
    @bababooeu7539 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't play the Wagon gambit before, but I have one interesting gambit. After 1. d4 Nf6 2. c4 a6 3. Nc3 b5 4. cxb5 axb5 5. Nxb5 you can play 5. c5. It's not as dubious as the Wagon gambit and it has an interesting idea. If they take 6. dxc5 you can play 6. Qa5+ forking the king and the knight. The only way to save them is to go to c3 which then you will play Ne4 and pressure the knight. I suggest you look into it

    • @HighlyCruciferous
      @HighlyCruciferous ปีที่แล้ว

      That's actually quite intriguing !
      My first thought at reading this was that White should be able to acheive some particularly favourable form of Benko but on closer inspection this doesn't seem possible. So yes, definitely worth looking into !

    • @HighlyCruciferous
      @HighlyCruciferous ปีที่แล้ว

      Now all you need are some insane variations like the Queen sac line presented in this video...

  • @willmorrisusa
    @willmorrisusa ปีที่แล้ว

    The Super GM must've been pissed that he couldn't figure it out in the opening.

  • @sneakyonthebeat
    @sneakyonthebeat ปีที่แล้ว +1

    8:46 why does the back rank queen sac not work, the knight and rook are not coordinated so it should work?

    • @JonathanSchrantz
      @JonathanSchrantz  ปีที่แล้ว +9

      If 24. ... Qb1+, White doesn't take the Queen immediately but instead plays 25. Rd1 and avoids the back rank mate.

    • @WoolyCow
      @WoolyCow ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i was wondering the same thing! glad u commented this :D

    • @sneakyonthebeat
      @sneakyonthebeat ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JonathanSchrantz thank you

  • @jacksonb4050
    @jacksonb4050 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please make a full video featuring everything for the wagon gambit

  • @AndreasFroehliPoker
    @AndreasFroehliPoker ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a fun gambit!

  • @tolkienfan1972
    @tolkienfan1972 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's awesome! Is it even possible to explore a position without "tangents"?

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว

    At 1:27, isn't Bd2 just much stronger?
    alternatively, Nf3

  • @grim_blazer9120
    @grim_blazer9120 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Day 38 of asking for a video on my funny English lines

  • @robertehrenworth3310
    @robertehrenworth3310 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant tactics & fun stuff!

  • @ShinJLoh
    @ShinJLoh ปีที่แล้ว

    Did black miss checkmate @8:45? After white captures the pawn with Rd7, black can move Qb1+ with check, forcing white to take the queen with the rook and allowing black to recapture the rook with forced backrank mate. The only way that white prevents mate there is for the knight to block the check and give up the rook (which will inevitably lead to white's loss)

    • @bababooeu7539
      @bababooeu7539 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      No, Rxb1 is not forced! There is one other move, Rd1, blocking the check with the rook and now you have to move the queen out the way. This is one tactical defence that, in many occasions, a lot of players miss.

    • @ShinJLoh
      @ShinJLoh ปีที่แล้ว

      @@bababooeu7539 Ah I missed that, good eye!

  • @ramilparedes9930
    @ramilparedes9930 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very helpful

  • @itskmillz
    @itskmillz ปีที่แล้ว

    ive been trying to play it so hard but everyone declines it for some reason lol

    • @HighlyCruciferous
      @HighlyCruciferous ปีที่แล้ว

      The declined variations are fun too.

    • @Collin0
      @Collin0 ปีที่แล้ว

      they fear the wagon

  • @icedragon5743
    @icedragon5743 ปีที่แล้ว

    8:46 BLACK MISSED M4
    BLACKS TURN QUEEN SACRIFICE B1 AND ROOK TAKES B1 AGAIN AND THEN WHITE BLOCKS THEN BLACK TAKES AND WHITE BLOCKS WITH KNIGHT AND BLACK TAKES KNIGHT CHECKMATE

    • @willdavid3501
      @willdavid3501 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whites Rook can fall back to first rank; blocking the check and threatening Blacks Queen

  • @MrDrompel
    @MrDrompel ปีที่แล้ว

    Back rank mate was missed by black.

    • @kyresd
      @kyresd ปีที่แล้ว +2

      No it wasn't

    • @MrDrompel
      @MrDrompel ปีที่แล้ว +1

      8:45 QG1

    • @EvertfromNederland
      @EvertfromNederland ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@MrDrompel Not exactly but it was winning material. If the Queen checks on G1, the Knight can block on e1. The queen can't take the knight, but has to take the rook, then the opponent can move the king next to the knight on f1, and thus the mate is avoided. Winning non the less for black.

    • @patrickhickey7673
      @patrickhickey7673 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The rook on d7 can also block the check, with both rooks defending each other through the queen

    • @EvertfromNederland
      @EvertfromNederland ปีที่แล้ว

      @@patrickhickey7673 Lol you know what, that is way better and i can't believe i misread that. I saw it but dismissed it quickly.