Nice game, but I can't really see the point in the wagon gambit if all it does is allow you to maybe equalize. Edit: after watching the original vid on the Wagon gambit (New Ultra-Aggressive Gambit vs 1d4), it's far deeper and more interesting than I thought. There are actually a lot more ways white can end up in a losing position than are shown here.
That's theoretical best play equal position. Watch the original video, there are all sorts of traps most opponents will fall into. Unless you are playing titled players where you still get the equal endgame.
@@gregorymorse8423 I'll check it out. From what I saw in this video, I can't even even see people at my rating (1500) falling for the trap by taking the rook on a3 and giving up their queen.
@@HighlyCruciferous Black has no compensation for a pawn in the opening, if you can't win a game as White from there then you should quit playing the game.
One second here, Jonathan Schrantz has gone from Saint Louis paid effort to enjoying his well thought out videos. I served 14 years 7 months in the Old jail in Hagerstown Maryland where the big dogs play. We were housed in North Dorm honor housing and had open cells. We would take two RISK boards and stick them end to end so you entered Alaska from the far end of the other board. Then we would have 8 or more inmates, all serving 20 years or more, fight for days to take over the worlds. Whose ever cell the boards were in had to slide around the boards to sleep. I also found that table top games were taken seriously. very seriously. When the prison held the Chess tournament each year the stakes were extremely high. I won the in 1988 but only that one year. I was serving 20 years for drugs. My adventures will shortly be told in a life story that I am writing as we wspeak. I am taking your time here to tell you that I believe this guy here who calls himself the Vampire Chicken seems to be a very good chap.
If you get the trap setup with white two moves from castling I think it's move 11. You can play bishop to b7. When you jump on the pawn with your knight white is almost obligated to take before castling and it allows for an altered endgame. You can still smash a3 with the rook and when White's queen moves backrank you can take with the dark square bishop. If they capture the bishop both sides keep their Rooks. If they take the rook you take back in the corner. After White's queen captures, with black's light square bishop on b7 you can swing the Queen over to g4 protecting g7 and posing a mating threat. After the f pawn moves you can snag the e pawn with check. This leaves you with two passers and White's kingside a bit jumbled and doubled flank pawns. Equal material but black's pawn structure objectively better. Just be sure to castle instead of trying to gobble the "unprotected" bishop. I'm curious what the computer evaluation of this position is. There are still some backrank tricks available and it shouldn't be too hard for black to control the queening square.
In that position you said white to play and save game if black instead of what you showed played Bxh5 and recaptures h3 with g pawn (should white make such move) black gains another passer, gets his bishop out of check danger, and should be fine, possibly winning.
Stockfish: ez draw
Jonathan: Shows a cool line 10 moves ahead that might be a winning endgame
Stockfish: ez draw
can't wait to see the wagon get played in a GM vs GM game! Stafford has competition for most fun gambit
Search "Chessexplained-Yozhik, Irregular Opening" for an IM vs GM encounter.
Wagon isn't even close to as fun as the Stafford. Also, Nakhmanson, Triple Muzio, and similar are much funner than the Wagon as well.
@@maxkho00 "funner"
Very cool game. I liked the tactical idea your opponent had at 7:50
Love it. I'm running into opponents that refuse to play Nxb5.
Nice win vs GM
11:05 ah, a classic Wooden Shield, what a monster bishop
I actually saw that g5 move and then subsequent f6+ but wasn't sure what's next, was a hunch since I thought it probably equalizes in some way
Another entertaining video.... But I think you would have to be "off the wagon" in order to have the liquid courage to play this crazy gambit! Wow!
Nice game, but I can't really see the point in the wagon gambit if all it does is allow you to maybe equalize.
Edit: after watching the original vid on the Wagon gambit (New Ultra-Aggressive Gambit vs 1d4), it's far deeper and more interesting than I thought. There are actually a lot more ways white can end up in a losing position than are shown here.
Do you see the point in the Berlin ?
Because it's funny
We play against, people, not engines. I play against people rated close to me. They fall for anything.
That's theoretical best play equal position. Watch the original video, there are all sorts of traps most opponents will fall into. Unless you are playing titled players where you still get the equal endgame.
@@gregorymorse8423 I'll check it out. From what I saw in this video, I can't even even see people at my rating (1500) falling for the trap by taking the rook on a3 and giving up their queen.
Isn't our Johnathan similar to Soyjak on his thumbnails?)
loads of content ..thanks for all the hard work
13:53 Could you not have forked the king and bishop with the rook?
No, because the black bishop is pinned to the king. So after Re3 the white king can just take the black black rook with K×e3
@@sjoerdglaser2794 I'm no GM but I do know that the king can't move in to check, even if the checking piece is pinned.
@@sjoerdglaser2794 No, Kxf3 would be illegal. The fork could have happened, it's just not what happened.
@@theyaoster can you see a reason why it wasn't what happened? I'm interested to see if I missed some sort of tactic.
@@rww805 you are correct, Rf3+ would have won the White Bishop, but Black was already winning so it's somewhat anecdotal.
Very entertaining!😇
congrats on winning with wagon gambit! Are you yourself FM IM or what?
he is atleast 2000 fide I think?
Name of GM?
Podolchenko, Evgeniy
His name is Evgen_88 and there's two grandmasters named Evgeny and born in 1988, Evgeniy Podolchenko and Evgeny Romanov
You're a grandmaster too, so no big deal.
Yeah, the GM of all things dubious
All things risky
Day 37 of asking for a video on my funny English lines
White plays NF3 instead of NC3 to prepare BD2 vs BB4 and easily wins the game, another bad gambit busted.
Unfortunately, the game doesn't end on move 8. You'll still have to play a lot of good moves in order to win.
@@HighlyCruciferous Black has no compensation for a pawn in the opening, if you can't win a game as White from there then you should quit playing the game.
@@andrewferris1903 good luck
@@andrewferris1903black didn't give up a pawn yet?? What are you on??
my browser tab just says "i beat a grandma"...
10:56 it's a wooden shield
no it isnt
It very much is sir
Hi. Your videos are so fresh and inspirational. Keep up the good work!
Please don't quit playing chess.
One second here, Jonathan Schrantz has gone from Saint Louis paid effort to enjoying his well thought out videos.
I served 14 years 7 months in the Old jail in Hagerstown Maryland where the big dogs play.
We were housed in North Dorm honor housing and had open cells. We would take two
RISK boards and stick them end to end so you entered Alaska from the far end of the other board. Then we would have 8 or more inmates, all serving 20 years or more, fight for days to take over the worlds. Whose ever cell the boards were in had to slide around the boards to sleep.
I also found that table top games were taken seriously. very seriously. When the prison held the Chess tournament each year the stakes were extremely high.
I won the in 1988 but only that one year.
I was serving 20 years for drugs.
My adventures will shortly be told in a life story that I am writing as we wspeak.
I am taking your time here to tell you that I believe this guy here who calls himself the Vampire Chicken seems to be a very good chap.
If you get the trap setup with white two moves from castling I think it's move 11. You can play bishop to b7. When you jump on the pawn with your knight white is almost obligated to take before castling and it allows for an altered endgame. You can still smash a3 with the rook and when White's queen moves backrank you can take with the dark square bishop. If they capture the bishop both sides keep their Rooks. If they take the rook you take back in the corner. After White's queen captures, with black's light square bishop on b7 you can swing the Queen over to g4 protecting g7 and posing a mating threat. After the f pawn moves you can snag the e pawn with check. This leaves you with two passers and White's kingside a bit jumbled and doubled flank pawns. Equal material but black's pawn structure objectively better. Just be sure to castle instead of trying to gobble the "unprotected" bishop. I'm curious what the computer evaluation of this position is. There are still some backrank tricks available and it shouldn't be too hard for black to control the queening square.
In that position you said white to play and save game if black instead of what you showed played Bxh5 and recaptures h3 with g pawn (should white make such move) black gains another passer, gets his bishop out of check danger, and should be fine, possibly winning.
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Hay mical, Vsauce here
6:06 What about Bxc3?
11:05 the wooden shield
I love your videos.
I won again with the W!!!!! But now I have to drag myself to the psychiatric ward! 40 moves of chaos. Phew.
Thank You Jonathan! Your analisis is amazing! It's becomes obvious, that there is no limits in chess!
13:48 after he went Bf5, you could have taken his pawn with a nice check
nice work
Thank you
Super fun!