He Walked Straight Into My INSANE STOCKFISH PREP

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  • I challenged ‪@eric-rosen‬ to a chess game starting from the dreaded Wagon Gambit. Is he ready to handle this incredibly tricky opening?
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  • @Spamdrew128
    @Spamdrew128 ปีที่แล้ว +567

    Prep so insane even he forgot it 😂

    • @jimmy2955
      @jimmy2955 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

    • @natanfurman2467
      @natanfurman2467 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Prep so insane it cleared sary

  • @loulasher
    @loulasher ปีที่แล้ว +199

    "Imagine what Eric is saying right now"
    Eric: "gg".

    • @MrGedget
      @MrGedget ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Totally what everybody would imagine Eric to say

  • @SumNutOnU2b
    @SumNutOnU2b ปีที่แล้ว +195

    Well, that was definitely not what I expected. I think your "insane stockfish prep" might have been too much 'insane' and not enough 'stockfish'.

  • @MelbourneChessCoach
    @MelbourneChessCoach ปีที่แล้ว +234

    Jonathan: "It's not the same if I can't hear the fear in his voice"
    Meanwhile Eric: "I think it's OK..."
    7:58

  • @josemari2758
    @josemari2758 ปีที่แล้ว +84

    Funny how all that Stockfish preparation degenerated into a Napoleon-like game with both kings in the center and all the center of the board crowded with pieces, in which the best player checkmated first. You are always fun to watch, and one even learns something

  • @TheRedWon
    @TheRedWon ปีที่แล้ว +10

    6:08 Oh no my Rosen

  • @HighlyCruciferous
    @HighlyCruciferous ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Oh no my wagon !

  • @Counttom90
    @Counttom90 ปีที่แล้ว +52

    after 11. Nf3, it doesn't look like there's a magic stockfish line and Eric is pretty much out of the woods

    • @niloneto1608
      @niloneto1608 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Basically, yes. Best is probably 11...cxd6 according to Stockfish.

    • @zwischendurundmoll3968
      @zwischendurundmoll3968 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      the magic of the line is that black is down 3 pawns but its equal, but if your prep ends there its arguably easier to play for white, if not white could be in some serious trouble

    • @niloneto1608
      @niloneto1608 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@zwischendurundmoll3968 Not really equal. White is always slightly better in all lines. Stockfish evaluates those as around 0.8 tô 1.5

    • @zwischendurundmoll3968
      @zwischendurundmoll3968 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@niloneto1608 slightly better

  • @Rasta8889
    @Rasta8889 ปีที่แล้ว +104

    No postgame analysis with Eric?

    • @mymyscellany
      @mymyscellany ปีที่แล้ว +26

      I was interested in what the evaluation was

    • @grim_blazer9120
      @grim_blazer9120 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Maybe he could make a follow up video with it

    • @nigglewiggle4214
      @nigglewiggle4214 ปีที่แล้ว +62

      jonathan was so upset by this loss he has not been returning Eric's calls ever since. jonathan even revealed on stream that he's thrown out his queen size full color print Eric Rosen bed sheets. truly a tragic rift between two of the best TH-cam chess creators. i hope they reunite with an analysis soon ❤

    • @louisedgewick107
      @louisedgewick107 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nigglewiggle4214lol

    • @badgoogle9938
      @badgoogle9938 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      looking at lichess, they played a few more games

  • @bikkel77
    @bikkel77 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    That’s exactly how I always go down when playing a weird gambit 😂

  • @l4te4oot91
    @l4te4oot91 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    When Jonathan has the maniacle giggle you know it’s gonna be spicy

  • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
    @ItIsYouAreNotYour ปีที่แล้ว +18

    What!? It's over!? I was just starting to enjoy it, damn.

    • @TheWolfnman
      @TheWolfnman ปีที่แล้ว +5

      thats what she said

    • @ItIsYouAreNotYour
      @ItIsYouAreNotYour ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheWolfnman That's what dad said. Never got it, until I found out my real dad is actually the milk man.

  • @okamisansempai557
    @okamisansempai557 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great game, nice start

  • @TheFluke32
    @TheFluke32 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    That was one complicated opening. Was thinking that if I was black in the position at around 5:20, I would have attacked the white queen with Nb6. After that, I have no idea. It just felt that was only way to keep the board open and in a delicate balance of keeping it under control

    • @dennismuller1141
      @dennismuller1141 ปีที่แล้ว

      looks like Nb6 blunders the bishop

    • @TheFluke32
      @TheFluke32 ปีที่แล้ว

      Knight on e4 covers the Bishop on c5, if that is what's you thought was going to be lost.

    • @dennismuller1141
      @dennismuller1141 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TheFluke32 you're right, I didn't see that

  • @alexeiz
    @alexeiz ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Qf6 was the losing move because it's of no immediate threat to white and Nxc7+ followed by Nxa8 becomes possible. Without Qf6, Nxc7 followed by Nxa8 is not possible because of Qa5+.

  • @michaelkrailo5725
    @michaelkrailo5725 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Is there any way we can get a redo on this because I have no idea what the wagon gambit is although I see Eric past up the the forbidden fruit that was offered. I'm not so sure Eric would have faired so well had he not been told anything about the game in advance. But I understand that certain moves must be made in the beginning to make it all work. In any case, we need a follow up video for this gambit.

    • @mckenziearchibald4510
      @mckenziearchibald4510 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Herrs jonathkns original video, going through the theory. He has a few more games on the second channel (i think)
      th-cam.com/video/Ckr3RsQYTj4/w-d-xo.html
      Edit: im not one of those wack youtube bots

    • @buttecake
      @buttecake ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@mckenziearchibald4510 that's exactly what a whack TH-cam bot would say

    • @michaelkrailo5725
      @michaelkrailo5725 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mckenziearchibald4510 I did find that video and now it makes more sense. Thanks.

  • @thalasyus
    @thalasyus ปีที่แล้ว

    I love these two guys so much

  • @SkateFallen1424
    @SkateFallen1424 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    reminds me of every time I try some new exotic gambit. "oh shit, what now?" lol

  • @joeb4142
    @joeb4142 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Another addition to the Eric Rosen mythology.

  • @louisparry-mills9132
    @louisparry-mills9132 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Where is the postgame ? What went wrong ? Did you have more ideas you coulda remembered

    • @irjake
      @irjake ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, what's the right way to play it? What was the prep you forgot? Don't leave us hanging!

  • @Siderite
    @Siderite ปีที่แล้ว

    That evil laughter, man!

  • @walkerb392
    @walkerb392 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh John, what a blunder on your last move...
    U could & should've won the game..!

  • @avasti561
    @avasti561 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The laughs of Jonathan were scary

  • @MrArtless1
    @MrArtless1 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ...and refuted it

  • @victorfinberg8595
    @victorfinberg8595 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another dubious gambit crushed by a champion of dubious gambits.

  • @yosefcohen483
    @yosefcohen483 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very professional - you check the gambit with a Gambit Master.

  • @MrTheDif
    @MrTheDif ปีที่แล้ว

    What about 8 ... b4? It keeps the dark squared bishop from attacking the queen.

  • @syoudipta
    @syoudipta ปีที่แล้ว +4

    "I've so much time to think!"
    "Feel free to take all of it"!

  • @ArisianFusion
    @ArisianFusion ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great video. Thank you for showing this cool trappy gambit, but I think you should focus more on solving mate in one problems!! Just sayin...

  • @waiterjoesh8859
    @waiterjoesh8859 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I was hoping for more out of this crazy line ngl

  • @Garrickk100
    @Garrickk100 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    “Feel free to take all of it” and leaves chat. damn man feels bad

  • @Collin0
    @Collin0 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    rosen leaving the call on accident lol

  • @stuvius
    @stuvius ปีที่แล้ว

    "Where did my friend go" was so sad 😅

  • @johnconrardy8486
    @johnconrardy8486 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    my two favorite chess players

  • @tinygiant3495
    @tinygiant3495 ปีที่แล้ว

    11. Qf6 is a huge blunder according to Stockfish. 12. Nxc7+ and the evaluation for white is +7.

    • @curtisholsinger6023
      @curtisholsinger6023 ปีที่แล้ว

      Noticed that too. Once Eric went Nf3, the value of Qf6 went away.

  • @davidbatchelder85
    @davidbatchelder85 ปีที่แล้ว

    Queen c2 would take care of this aspect

  • @TeaAndCreampie
    @TeaAndCreampie ปีที่แล้ว

    Ouch. At least it was interesting chess!

  • @misterunknown8923
    @misterunknown8923 ปีที่แล้ว

    Back to the beaver gambit it is 😅

  • @samuelfelton6158
    @samuelfelton6158 ปีที่แล้ว

    Super villain laugh

  • @willmchess6145
    @willmchess6145 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wagon gambit? Feels like there's an opening for every animal or object lmao. Next you'll be playing the Chimpanzee Defense or maybe the Lawnchair Gambit.

  • @justin57153
    @justin57153 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol natural moves from white result in like, +7.

  • @TannerWA
    @TannerWA ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thumbnail’s missing the ‘r’ in your last name btw!

  • @lukevandoren7144
    @lukevandoren7144 ปีที่แล้ว

    why didn't he take c7 pawn w the night forking the King and Rook?

    • @tgwnn
      @tgwnn ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Kf8 and Qa5+ looks devastating

  • @rayscheelhaase4733
    @rayscheelhaase4733 ปีที่แล้ว

    Pin the knight to the queen with ur bishop? I think that's the idea you forgot.

  • @davidrobertson1980
    @davidrobertson1980 ปีที่แล้ว

    OUCH!

  • @misterr3653
    @misterr3653 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sad ending

  • @remcovanhartevelt588
    @remcovanhartevelt588 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice nice

  • @MSMNBC
    @MSMNBC ปีที่แล้ว

    First move Qd5

  • @mrlucasftw42
    @mrlucasftw42 ปีที่แล้ว

    Ratings point gambit

  • @richardv.582
    @richardv.582 ปีที่แล้ว

    Lol

  • @notmeagain5647
    @notmeagain5647 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    why not Qd5 instead of Q4d on move 7

    • @alexrandall8557
      @alexrandall8557 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Bb4+ is extremely strong. Stockfish gives it -3

    • @amaryllis0
      @amaryllis0 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Possibly just because it was the intuitive/obvious move. If you're facing an unknown gambit, you usually don't want to play into it. You'd rather play a slightly worse but safer move than a seemingly better but much sharper move

  • @naethan.6267
    @naethan.6267 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hahaha that's a nice vid

  • @originaljungle
    @originaljungle ปีที่แล้ว

    the gambit brothers

  • @henriksoderstrom6815
    @henriksoderstrom6815 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't black have castled 0-0 instead of Qxg2 which got him mated?

  • @chesskw
    @chesskw ปีที่แล้ว

    😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @frozencloud17
    @frozencloud17 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jonathan forgot the course about king safety.

  • @openheart6113
    @openheart6113 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    White could have taken your rook with a king fork.

    • @mintos2693
      @mintos2693 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yeah he was gambiting it lol

    • @TVGUY333
      @TVGUY333 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes! I was wondering when Eric would see it but he didn't. I think he was a little psyched out or intimidated as he said when the 'call' was lost.

    • @TVGUY333
      @TVGUY333 ปีที่แล้ว

      Never mind. LOL, Eric won anyway and I didn't see it coming. Gotta love him.

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Taking that pawn before the queen moved would've been a blunder because of Qa5+. After Qf6, Eric realizes that he can take the pawn, but since he's already up material there's no point winning unrelevant pieces when his only risk comes from opposing tempo

    • @sollertia_
      @sollertia_ ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@TVGUY333 he did see it and even talked about it live lol

  • @ivanljilja9198
    @ivanljilja9198 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Well this is embarrassing. I would reconsider all my life after this. Not because he lost , because of attitude how he lost. Made us have so big expectations and then failed miserably.

  • @mkg40287
    @mkg40287 ปีที่แล้ว

    lol

  • @charlesgaskell5899
    @charlesgaskell5899 ปีที่แล้ว

    Oops...

  • @12factortest
    @12factortest ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm sad now.

  • @phillipmiodowski2875
    @phillipmiodowski2875 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Just some feedback - Eric dropping off and you continuing to talk about it was annoying.

    • @MATT-qu7pl
      @MATT-qu7pl 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Your comment is annoying

  • @grim_blazer9120
    @grim_blazer9120 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Day 48 of asking for a video on my funny English lines