I just got one in 22 mag and its amazing. Its one of those magic guns that you always hit what your aiming at. And that's rare.. Another gun great for the protection of life.
A fun inexpensive little gun. I got mine last year in 22Mag. Did a little customizing on the appearance and put a knob on the take down screw. It a rifle you can't but love. So cute.
Great review. I learned two important things. The first was that it has an automatic half-cock that is actuated by the action break lever. That is a relief because it does not have a rebounding hammer. I also learned that you can take the bottom rail off and get an extra 2" of folding. Wonderful. I will have to buy one and do a review on my own channel. Thanks again!
Just got mine and took it out for some plinking. it's a good little rifle. i have mine chambered in 22 mag, will be buying a second very soon for my son. it was accurate with the help of a 1x vortex spitfire attached. did not like the rail being plastic so I will be swapping that out for a metal one. good gun to teach kids how to shoot without burning through a ton of ammo. also have a flash can on the muzzle. and did a Paracord job on the barrel and wire stock. overall i am happy with it.
Thanks for uploading. I am thinking I need a light, simple rifle like this for when I'm checking traps. It looks like it would be more than adequate for the job. Best wishes from New Zealand.
One of the worst things you can do to a hinge action like this is to snap it shut the way you are doing it. This puts a lot of tress on the joint where the rifle folds and also on the barrel attachment into the receiver. You see them do it in the movies all the time because it looks cool, the same thing with wrist snapping the cylinder closed on a revolver. It will cause a lot of extra wear. Also you should move your scope bases a little closer together so the crossbolts match up with the grooves on your rail, then you shouldn't have to router anything.
shoup2882, It's been 3 years plus now since you wrote that comment on this point. For my part, you are 100 percent correct in what you have said. But, as you can see , nobody seems to want to be told of a mistake they have made in their presentation. I've tried to tell folks of things like this and even ask questions too sometimes, but mostly I received swearing and cursing and been called everything but a 'gentleman'!! A few sincere folks will chat with you about these points, but I just thought I'd mention to you, that mostly we are wasting our time . It's a pity!
hello, i bought two chiappas recently and i am having problems with the sights. I have then set as low as they go and at 25 yards they still hit 2 inches high. That is when i center the front light into the circle of the rear sight, inwhich that is how you aim a pee sight, so i dont get it. Both shoot way high and there is no adjustment to lower the sight further. So didnt you have that problem? i think their sights are way off and of poor design. Tho everyone says they are bang on. it is accurate but too high. what do you think bro.
Google "peep sight view" and select "images" to see if perhaps you are just not familiar with the way they work. The odds of both of them being off is unlikely. Enjoy.
I have been talking to a few people and i'm told it most likely is the ammo i'm using. I'm using a heavy 40 grain, so it leaves the barrel slower so, the recoil lifts the barrel some before the bullet leaves , so i ws told haha. anyhow have to try a lower grain and if not . All the rifles shoot high with this ammo, for my buddy has the same ammo and had to use a scope to fix the problem.. thanks
Kullcraven Bushcraft This video had been shot with CCI stinger ammo and it did okay at 100 yards but I recently started trying to improve the accuracy of this gun by finding the "better" ammo for it, and what it seems to like is the lighter stuff such as 29 grain CCI ammo. At 25 yards or less it doesn't really matter what you use because the distance is so short but for 150+ yardage shots it appears to me that the short barrel length does not allow for 40 grain ammo to stay true.
PICing4fun Thanks alot , i'll try that. I know my buddy put a scope on hisand shooting the same ammo as i am and hits pretty good with it and accurate within an inch or so at 15-50 yards. I will only use this rifle for small game, so will only be shooting within 50 yards tops most likely. Thanks alot and i'll remember this. i appreciate you letting me know this info.
Did you find u had to turn the windage knob almost all the way clockwise to move the rear sight over to the right side. I read a few reviews where some owners complained of the same thing. Mine is very close to the right side. I think I'm about 1 or 2 clicks away from the end. When they manufactured this rifle, the front sight was canted to the right. Di you test the accuracy of this rifle using only the peep sight? What kind of groupings were you able to attain?
Yes I did notice that the windage was as you said. I had not yet found a good day to do a full test of the peep sights, though they shot one ragged little hole at 20 feet with 5 bullets as all guns probably can do. It rains here a lot now a days.
PICing4fun I'm going to give it another go at the range to test the peep sights accuracy. I'm not expecting tight groups since this is a survival rifle vs a precision/match rifle. If I can get it to group at around 1 inch from 50 feet out, I'll be happy. If not, I'm looking at adding a scope. It looks like you are using the Tasco Scope that comes with the dovetail ring mounts. The only problem is finding a dovetail mount for it since it has a 3/4 inch tube diameter. I'll just go with a scope with a 1 inch tube diameter. There are lots of ring mounts to choose from for that size. Thanks for your response. This is a good video as I didn't realize it was under 3 pounds. Also the bit about taking off the lower quad rail really helps to conserve space.
Hi I don’t know about the physical effects of a subsonic bullet. But my experience from years of shooting is subsonic rounds are more accurate. Cheers Brent
In short, yes transitioning between super sonic to sub sonic flight creates irregular turbulence which can affect accuracy. The long version deals with boundary layer adhesion/separation in fluid dynamics and is quite boring for those classified as "human" rather than "engineer."
HAve you had any problems with misfires? My gun is brand new, and what a disappointment it was as I was teaching my girls how to shoot, that the first time I pulled the trigger, nothing happened.... :-( Later during the shoot, it did seem to have less misfires, but still was not reliable. I am going to try some other ammo to see if that will help.
This is a little late, but the problem might be as a result of the gun being dry fired too many times and having the firing pin damaged. Dry firing is when you pull the trigger and there is no shell in the chamber.
(a) Yes, when a bullet goes "trans sonic" - transitions from super to sub - it typically is affected by that transition with a little turbulence/wobble, affecting accuracy. But whether a little or lot varies greatly. (b) You sure these are made in Ohio? They're stamped Dayton, but my guess is that's the importer and they're made in Italy. (c) Nice review; thanks. (d) But no, the sights are *not* "nice" as you say - they're plastic pieces of dung, and you can't get low enough on the stock to see them. Hence I just scoped mine.
Thanks for the transonic information Daniel, it does answer the question well. Interesting enough the gun has both Italy and Daytona stamped onto it but as you mentioned Ohio may just be the distributor from what I've read.
The rifle has a half-cock because it is a hammer fired firearm. All firearms that utilize a hammer have some form of half-cock (HC) to get the hammer away from the firing pin. In this firearm if the gun didn't automatically go to HC the firing pin would still protrude front he breech face when closing the breech after loading a round. BANG! instantly on closing the breech. Second, if the firing pin was protruding as you unloaded the expended cartridge instead of going to HC, you would swipe the back of the expended cartridge against the protruding firing pin every time. This will lead to either filling up the firing pin hole with brass or breaking off the firing pin. HC also give you the ability to load a cartridge and then safely walk with the gun loaded while hunting. If god forbid the gun is dropped on the hammer, the hammer isn't going to transfer energy through the firing pin and into the primer. Second, the rails are picatinny rails. Your scope rings are Weaver rings. Weaver rails are smaller. $10 for some 1" diameter picatinny rail rings and you wouldn't of had to machined the rail to fit. Third, the speed of sound is 1125 feet per second at sea-level. Any bullet over that velocity breaks the sound barrier and the subsequent sonic crack is about 135dB. The bullet transversing the sound barrier from sonic to subsonic causes instability and inaccuracy. You can't predict the bullet path after it goes subsonic. This is true of ALL ammo. If you are shooting beyond the cartridge's subsonic barrier, then you either have to start out subsonic or go to a larger cartridge that won't breach the barrier at that distance. I don't recommend shooting 22LR at distances where this is an issue with this platform. Competition shooters do it all the time but the ballistics math involved is intense even with a ballistics app or calculator. Lastly, gravity pulls downward no matter what angle you are shooting up or down in angle. So, your bullet drop for that distance was actually less that direct line of sight. You were shooting up a fairly steep incline. You were NOT shoot at 100 yds unless you compensated for that incline and did math: Actual Distance = line of sight distance x Cos (angle of incline) or X = H Cos (a). Hope this post helps.
Regarding dry firing: That is only an issue with the action closed as it concerns the firing pin hitting the rear face of the chamber and thus potentially being damaged, as opposed to a centerfire firearm where dry firing would see the firing bin enter the chamber and hit nothing. All that said, this is possibly THE most boring firearms video ever uploaded to youtube. This guy should stick to soldering telephones. He knows the square root of bugger all about guns (as evidenced by his description of ammunition as "bullets" (sigh)).
I just got one in 22 mag and its amazing. Its one of those magic guns that you always hit what your aiming at. And that's rare.. Another gun great for the protection of life.
cool , and i think its gonna be perfect in a plane !!
A fun inexpensive little gun. I got mine last year in 22Mag. Did a little customizing on the appearance and put a knob on the take down screw. It a rifle you can't but love. So cute.
+Leigh Rich forgot...it is manufactured in Italy. Ohio is the importer...
Great review. I learned two important things. The first was that it has an automatic half-cock that is actuated by the action break lever. That is a relief because it does not have a rebounding hammer. I also learned that you can take the bottom rail off and get an extra 2" of folding. Wonderful. I will have to buy one and do a review on my own channel. Thanks again!
Thanks for the review. Also clever split screen ^^
Good job. I sent for one after this video- thanks.
Great video, Good info, brilliant split screen.
Just got mine and took it out for some plinking. it's a good little rifle. i have mine chambered in 22 mag, will be buying a second very soon for my son. it was accurate with the help of a 1x vortex spitfire attached. did not like the rail being plastic so I will be swapping that out for a metal one. good gun to teach kids how to shoot without burning through a ton of ammo. also have a flash can on the muzzle. and did a Paracord job on the barrel and wire stock. overall i am
happy with it.
Very informative vid'. Thanks for taking the time.
Thanks for the review. I have been thinking of getting this gun. Terry, from Vancouver Island.
Brilliant Split-Screen! Never seen that before.
Thanks for uploading. I am thinking I need a light, simple rifle like this for when I'm checking traps. It looks like it would be more than adequate for the job. Best wishes from New Zealand.
Nicely done, Brother. Thank you very much. - Mike
Can I ask you a question, please? If you had the option to choose, which ammo would you prefer for this carbon? 22LR, 17 HMR or 22 Magnum? THANKS
One of the worst things you can do to a hinge action like this is to snap it shut the way you are doing it. This puts a lot of tress on the joint where the rifle folds and also on the barrel attachment into the receiver. You see them do it in the movies all the time because it looks cool, the same thing with wrist snapping the cylinder closed on a revolver. It will cause a lot of extra wear. Also you should move your scope bases a little closer together so the crossbolts match up with the grooves on your rail, then you shouldn't have to router anything.
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shoup2882, It's been 3 years plus now since you wrote that comment on this point.
For my part, you are 100 percent correct in what you have said.
But, as you can see , nobody seems to want to be told of a mistake they have made in their presentation.
I've tried to tell folks of things like this and even ask questions too sometimes, but mostly I received swearing and cursing and been called everything but a 'gentleman'!! A few sincere folks will chat with you about these points, but I just thought I'd mention to you, that mostly we are wasting our time .
It's a pity!
Ohh shut it !
I would take the plastic rail off and put on a decent aluminium or steel rail. That will improve accuracy.
You took the bottom rail off. That makes it lighter.
hello, i bought two chiappas recently and i am having problems with the sights. I have then set as low as they go and at 25 yards they still hit 2 inches high. That is when i center the front light into the circle of the rear sight, inwhich that is how you aim a pee sight, so i dont get it. Both shoot way high and there is no adjustment to lower the sight further. So didnt you have that problem? i think their sights are way off and of poor design. Tho everyone says they are bang on. it is accurate but too high. what do you think bro.
Google "peep sight view" and select "images" to see if perhaps you are just not familiar with the way they work. The odds of both of them being off is unlikely. Enjoy.
I have been talking to a few people and i'm told it most likely is the ammo i'm using. I'm using a heavy 40 grain, so it leaves the barrel slower so, the recoil lifts the barrel some before the bullet leaves , so i ws told haha. anyhow have to try a lower grain and if not . All the rifles shoot high with this ammo, for my buddy has the same ammo and had to use a scope to fix the problem.. thanks
Kullcraven Bushcraft This video had been shot with CCI stinger ammo and it did okay at 100 yards but I recently started trying to improve the accuracy of this gun by finding the "better" ammo for it, and what it seems to like is the lighter stuff such as 29 grain CCI ammo. At 25 yards or less it doesn't really matter what you use because the distance is so short but for 150+ yardage shots it appears to me that the short barrel length does not allow for 40 grain ammo to stay true.
PICing4fun Thanks alot , i'll try that. I know my buddy put a scope on hisand shooting the same ammo as i am and hits pretty good with it and accurate within an inch or so at 15-50 yards. I will only use this rifle for small game, so will only be shooting within 50 yards tops most likely. Thanks alot and i'll remember this. i appreciate you letting me know this info.
How much do these cost
Did you find u had to turn the windage knob almost all the way clockwise to move the rear sight over to the right side. I read a few reviews where some owners complained of the same thing. Mine is very close to the right side. I think I'm about 1 or 2 clicks away from the end. When they manufactured this rifle, the front sight was canted to the right. Di you test the accuracy of this rifle using only the peep sight? What kind of groupings were you able to attain?
Yes I did notice that the windage was as you said. I had not yet found a good day to do a full test of the peep sights, though they shot one ragged little hole at 20 feet with 5 bullets as all guns probably can do. It rains here a lot now a days.
PICing4fun
I'm going to give it another go at the range to test the peep sights accuracy. I'm not expecting tight groups since this is a survival rifle vs a precision/match rifle. If I can get it to group at around 1 inch from 50 feet out, I'll be happy. If not, I'm looking at adding a scope. It looks like you are using the Tasco Scope that comes with the dovetail ring mounts. The only problem is finding a dovetail mount for it since it has a 3/4 inch tube diameter. I'll just go with a scope with a 1 inch tube diameter. There are lots of ring mounts to choose from for that size. Thanks for your response. This is a good video as I didn't realize it was under 3 pounds. Also the bit about taking off the lower quad rail really helps to conserve space.
Hi I don’t know about the physical effects of a subsonic bullet. But my experience from years of shooting is subsonic rounds are more accurate. Cheers Brent
In short, yes transitioning between super sonic to sub sonic flight creates irregular turbulence which can affect accuracy. The long version deals with boundary layer adhesion/separation in fluid dynamics and is quite boring for those classified as "human" rather than "engineer."
The weight of the rifle from the company is a loaded weight in the provided carrying case
Have you ever chronied this rifle to find out the average muzzle velocity?
Beautiful looking area , is that Canada ?
Yes, It's just up in the Stave Lake forest area in British Columbia, Canada.
It looks like a paradise , you Canadians have some really nice country up there .
muito bom o vidio
HAve you had any problems with misfires? My gun is brand new, and what a disappointment it was as I was teaching my girls how to shoot, that the first time I pulled the trigger, nothing happened.... :-( Later during the shoot, it did seem to have less misfires, but still was not reliable. I am going to try some other ammo to see if that will help.
This is a little late, but the problem might be as a result of the gun being dry fired too many times and having the firing pin damaged. Dry firing is when you pull the trigger and there is no shell in the chamber.
How much are these!!!!
(a) Yes, when a bullet goes "trans sonic" - transitions from super to sub - it typically is affected by that transition with a little turbulence/wobble, affecting accuracy. But whether a little or lot varies greatly. (b) You sure these are made in Ohio? They're stamped Dayton, but my guess is that's the importer and they're made in Italy. (c) Nice review; thanks. (d) But no, the sights are *not* "nice" as you say - they're plastic pieces of dung, and you can't get low enough on the stock to see them. Hence I just scoped mine.
Thanks for the transonic information Daniel, it does answer the question well. Interesting enough the gun has both Italy and Daytona stamped onto it but as you mentioned Ohio may just be the distributor from what I've read.
Shouldnt dry fire any rim fire
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stave lake I'm from the Kootenay ''s living in slave lake ab now lol
The rifle has a half-cock because it is a hammer fired firearm. All firearms that utilize a hammer have some form of half-cock (HC) to get the hammer away from the firing pin. In this firearm if the gun didn't automatically go to HC the firing pin would still protrude front he breech face when closing the breech after loading a round. BANG! instantly on closing the breech. Second, if the firing pin was protruding as you unloaded the expended cartridge instead of going to HC, you would swipe the back of the expended cartridge against the protruding firing pin every time. This will lead to either filling up the firing pin hole with brass or breaking off the firing pin. HC also give you the ability to load a cartridge and then safely walk with the gun loaded while hunting. If god forbid the gun is dropped on the hammer, the hammer isn't going to transfer energy through the firing pin and into the primer. Second, the rails are picatinny rails. Your scope rings are Weaver rings. Weaver rails are smaller. $10 for some 1" diameter picatinny rail rings and you wouldn't of had to machined the rail to fit. Third, the speed of sound is 1125 feet per second at sea-level. Any bullet over that velocity breaks the sound barrier and the subsequent sonic crack is about 135dB. The bullet transversing the sound barrier from sonic to subsonic causes instability and inaccuracy. You can't predict the bullet path after it goes subsonic. This is true of ALL ammo. If you are shooting beyond the cartridge's subsonic barrier, then you either have to start out subsonic or go to a larger cartridge that won't breach the barrier at that distance. I don't recommend shooting 22LR at distances where this is an issue with this platform. Competition shooters do it all the time but the ballistics math involved is intense even with a ballistics app or calculator. Lastly, gravity pulls downward no matter what angle you are shooting up or down in angle. So, your bullet drop for that distance was actually less that direct line of sight. You were shooting up a fairly steep incline. You were NOT shoot at 100 yds unless you compensated for that incline and did math: Actual Distance = line of sight distance x Cos (angle of incline) or X = H Cos (a). Hope this post helps.
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FFS, your wobbly video actually gave me a headache.
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Regarding dry firing: That is only an issue with the action closed as it concerns the firing pin hitting the rear face of the chamber and thus potentially being damaged, as opposed to a centerfire firearm where dry firing would see the firing bin enter the chamber and hit nothing. All that said, this is possibly THE most boring firearms video ever uploaded to youtube. This guy should stick to soldering telephones. He knows the square root of bugger all about guns (as evidenced by his description of ammunition as "bullets" (sigh)).