The WEIRD Guns Being Used In Ukraine Right Now #2
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 5 ส.ค. 2024
- Some pretty exotic weaponry has popped up in battlefields across Ukraine, even more than when we first talked about it. So let’s go over some of the new stuff that’s made the rounds online and see what kinda weird stuff in making it’s way to the field!
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I feel like the best way to sum up what we are seeing is that “gun is gun” and you’ll still get a vibe check no matter when it was made
Yes a gun is gun, And when you come to under 200m in fire fight the diffrent between guns get lower and the skill off the shooter and were you are setup is a bigger part who is winning.
Literally pull out a 18th century flintlock pistol and 360 no scope some bitch in chicago
@@lalchhandama3805 "Your aptitudes are rather pitiful you bloody rapscallion" (Skill issue)
@@lalchhandama3805 yah now im waiting to see pre-1850's arms in 2022 eastern front id be impressed and wow 😲your crazy to go full Napoleon war lol 😂
@@janssonsamuel8005 where are they getting the cartage's/ronds from? as some of these gun's sound old and or rare and harder to get replacement's stuff for it and this is in Europe aka we hate guns and weapons in civilian hands??
Brandon: Those custom guns in CoD are unrealistic and ridiculous. No one would ever use it.
Ivan: Hold my AK.
Hold my red-dotted dual-barrel maxim you mean
Time period difference mostly but I see the joke your going for.
Lol you right 😬
i mean, if you attach a mustang sight onto a gun in CODV. It's surely unrealistic
Life imitates art.
Now, whether you believe Vanguard is "art" is up to you.
Part of the Irony you talked about: Germany delivered some MG3s to Ukranians. Some of those MG 3s still have the Old MG42 Receivers which still have the old markings. For example 1942 and a swastika. The Bundeswehr did actually often just cross out the Swastika and not completely remove it. So in theory a Ukranian can be using the exact MG that might have been used against his Grandfather 80 years earlier by the Germans. And even more ironic: In case of the battle of Kharkiv, it might even be on the same battleground as in WW2. Which just amazes me.
War. War never Changes.
@@silverhawkscape2677 it does alot and also doesnt
The Maxim was the secret weapon of the British Empire in their colonial wars, that's how old it is. They liked the people at home to think the wars were being fought by noble riflemen, but that was just to hide the brutal, one-sidedness of the conflicts due to the Maxim. A saying took up among the imperial ranks: 'Whatever happens we have got the Maxim gun and they have not.'
"He's happy because he has got,
Twin Maxim guns, and a red dot."
"There but for the grace of God and the Maxim gun" R.K.
Pretty sure it wasn't secret and the British weren't the first or only ones to use it.
Overwhelming firepower makes conflicts end fast with fewer deaths.
@You just lost the game I think it was more that it was seen as less brave and glorious to use them.
So all those cursed COD Vanguard guns are real.
WW2 era guns are getting mounted with Holographic sites and ACOGs. Holy Shit.
There's video floating around of an StG-44 being mounted on a improvised, remote-controlled turret in the Syrian Civil War. Things have been getting increasingly weird for awhile now.
Difference is...it would be fine in a Modern Warfare game (like the first MW that had a stg44), after all, during the US invasion into the middle east countries, theres reported cases of so many obscure weapons used. Vanguard is still just a WW2 era game :D
Yeah, but at least here it makes sense. All the attachments and guns being used have already been invented by now. If some rando rocks up with a plasma cannon, or an AI-controlled auto-aim, _then_ people are going to call bullshit on the devs/writers getting lazy with this season of Earth in Chaos...
Norwegian Home guard here, we still use the MG3, which is basically a slightly modernised MG42. It brings some serious fire superiority on the squad level.
It remains an incredible machine gun to this day! I wouldn't wanna be on the flashy side of one.
Because germany made some absolutely ridiculous MGs that haven’t really be usurped
@@ThelVadam7777 eh I'd argue the PK, despite not having quite the rate of fire definitely has it beat in the weight and possibly also recoil department. MG42 platform definitely has a better quick change barrel system, though. It's better than any other machine gun I've ever seen.
@@Motoboo_Marine Both the barrel, bolt assembly and spring can be changed in seconds if need be (and you will need to on an MG). I'd rather run a MG3 then a PK
Here in the states I own two both transferable machine guns has a tax stamp converted one to 308 and the other to 30-06
9:01 this is a MG42. The obvious difference between the MG3 are: the recoil booster (at the muzzle) and the missing sight for anti-aircraft-handling.
Pretty accurate but it could be also a MG1 or MG2, but most likely a MG42
recoil booster wasn't only on early MG42?
@@mikoajpietrych6168 that specific type, MG3 has a different design, some MG2 as well.
Interesting, I rather expected it to be an MG3 due to "Who the fuck hast 8mm Mauser layin around?". especially in the quantity you'd expect & need for a gun that depletes ammo this fast
Interesting fact: The MG3/MG42 is most likely Zastava version built in the 50's Yugoslavia - some ex Yugoslavian countries (I believe Croatia but might be wrong) sent few dozens of these things to Ukrainians. MG3's are sadly only now reaching Ukraine from Germany as for the longest time they did not send those for whatever reason.
Simplified - Germany has established some rules since WW2 happened. Weapons are only to be send to members of the alliances Germany is part of (NATO&EU), some 3rd party countries, and to not send weapons to countries that are involved in a conflict (doesn't matter if it's a defensive or offensive war). However, the last part is based on individual cases, or to put it in the words of german politicians: "There can only be exceptions in justified individual cases, which must be documented in a publicly comprehensible manner." Also, german politicians hoped that the conflict could be resolved diplomatically, because they really don't want to cut all ties to Russia, and sending weapons to a country that is in open conflict with Russia is pretty much cutting a lot of ties with Russia. Maybe that helps you understand why Germany is rather precautious with sending weapons or equipment to Ukraine.
@@RinoGato Thank you. That is a very German way of doing things, maybe for the best :)
I think the Maxim is actually a really good choice for a mounted gun. I once heard about an old British armory that had to clear out it's old stock of .303 ammo, so they put all of it through the Vickers machine gun that was also in the armory. They fired over 3 million rounds of ammo continuously over the course of several days, and when they took the gun apart to clean it there was hardly any wear on the internals. Those old machine guns are literally designed for continuous fire.
Yeah, well known in WW1 and reason why feared, one battery fired one million rounds, 6 guns 12 hours straight fire with just pause to add more water or swap belts or minor jams.
No pause. no stop.
they where fine.
Just keep the liquid cooled jacket full of what ever fluid you have available.
I think it was supposed to be a destruction test. You fire till the gun breaks, only problem being it wouldn't break.
@@TB-zf7we tomato sauce and pee it is
@@glenriches4779 it was not in service long as was without being good.
Man I really thought the weaponry couldn’t get any more weird. Then Brandon swoops in saying, “But wait, there’s more!”
I'm just waiting for all the cursed guns of Ukraine to come next, we're talking AKs with waifus on them, keltecs, A bunch Bubba versions of Soviet SVT-40s/SVDs/SKS, and more to come.
@@Tadicuslegion78 got to love the bubba sks' though. I know, I had one I bought for 90 bucks with a blown out gas tube so it effectively made it a bolt action. My dumb 18 year old ass bought a polymer stock, a cheap ass red dot from wal mart, polymer fore grip, a cheap laser sight with pressure pads that ran back to the fore grip. Put hundreds of rounds through it lol. Add on top of that my other guns were a bersa .380 thunder (which is one of the nicest .380's ive ever shot lol) and a Mossberg 500. Ghetto starter kit right there 😁. And my nickname is literally "Bubba", go figure.
At least Putin can get a point for "fighting Nazi" because we are see Nazi weapons poping up lol.
@@oscarshen6855 and you know, the Azov.
This was an excellent video. I am astounded with the Maxim gun section and the pkt/pkm chop shop mainly, that’s mind blowing. And the MP40/ MG42 finds are also insane. However it’s making more sense to me due to the Eastern front in WW2
"is it old? yes. would i want to get shot at with it? no." is a mantra
Some one pointed out, for trench defense, the Maxim doesn't overheat for some time. Much better than air cooled if there is only one MG in the position.
Just to note about the Maxim, when Britain licenced and perfected it for the Vickers gun they were so reliable that when we retired it in the 70's the let them run a week straight changing barrels every 10k and firing off full belts at a time, they were having to change crews every half hours due to the noise and shovelling the casings.
After a week they could find no defect on the inner workings.... those things are just about bomb proof
According to Forgotten Weapons, they put 5 Million rounds through one of these in just a week
Nice proud of my country britain
Part of the reason is Maxims were originally designed to be able to fire black powder ammo. Turns out when you make a gun so chunky it can handle several hundred rounds worth of black powder fouling there ain’t much it can’t handle.
The Maxims in general are just insanely overengineered. You've got a firing mechanism that could probably withstand a .50 BMG cartridge cycling 8mm/.303.
@@ottovonbearsmark8876 Isn't black powder weaker than smokeless powder? How does designing it for a weaker load make it better at dealing eith higher loads?
To be fair, I don't know much about black powder guns, so please educate me on this.
Little Anecdote: I live in a town in Germany founded by refugees and my neighbour , a gentleman in his 80s told me that his father buried his MP40 and several hundred rounds when the russians closed in on their farm. He visited the remnants of the farm a couple of years ago and couldn't find it, so I'd like to think that some polish/soviet gentleman found them buried in pomeranian soil and put it in storage until now.
Was davon übrig ist. Die mp40 ist useless anyways jetzt da sie wahrscheinlich schon kaputt ist
There's no need for that. A lot of Ukranians were helping Germany, creating policing regiments, so quite a number of them buried their own MP40s and now got out of storage.
nope more than 50,000 ukrainian helping nazi germany, they got armed by nazi german and still have it today
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@@dominikmagnus I don't think thats it.
Wher did the captured weapon of germans go? Storage. Its just a waste to throw away fully functional gun.
A lot of these things sit in some military magazines, and its pulled out in time off need. Its old, but still deadly
Speaking of the MP40 being not so uncommon in Ukraine, that reminds me of a joke that I heard a good fifty years ago: Why do the Ukrainians put oil in their flower beds? Answer, to keep the rifles from rusting.
I don't get it.
@@justafurrywithinternet317 Taking you at your word, they keep them hidden and oiled so they can be used when the uprising against the Soviet Union starts. During the forced collectivization of the 1930s, many Ukrainians starved to death and many more sent to Siberia.
@@kxd2591 I see
The man in the first photo is a Russian soldier. This is clear from the Russian camouflage and the white stripe (on the knee) that they use to identify allies.
Yes
At this point I almost expect Coil guns, muzzle loaders, and exotic artillery to show up. Imagine a man with a rail gun shooting a man operating a puckle gun only to get sniped by an old lady with a Sharps rifle.
Tfw you nail a howitzer operator through a opening with your railgun but babushka sets a new longest range confirmed kill record on you using a whitworth rifle
Then somebody with a punt gun shoots a 100 foot wide hole in your lines
You have this in magaraska were farmer use realy old guns, singelshoot to deafend from raiders with ak47. And 2 guns can somtime hunt away 20-40 raiders with ak47. when you buddy beging to fall and you doint see from were you often run.
I have muzzleloaders at my home, if enemy won't have a vest, it will be more destructive than one shot from most of modern guns, when you fire heavy ogival bullet with high amount of powder from 1 m long barrel, it's like your pesonal tank cannon. 😀
Like those old live-action Call of Duty commercials
When I was in Iraq, we had fun keeping track of all of the weird and unexpected weapons we captured. My personal favorites were a Gold-plated Sterling smg with a Silver-plated magazine, and two very functional and recently used Enfield rifles, an SMLE and No. 4 Mk1 respectively. The Iraqis also used ridiculous numbers of SKS rifles, and actually made very effective use of them. I also had my first experience with operating a real Belgian made FAL Para.
Did you get to keep any of them?
@@jamsya493 I can't answer for him. but generally no. They usually don't get to keep it. Especially the full auto stuff. I think there is a way you can keep some stuff (speaking from the perspective of the US), but IIRC, it's not easy, and probably not cheap.
interesting, there’s a lot of SKS rifles in the underground Canadian market too so I’ve heard
SKS rifles rock
The No.4 Mk1 is fast as owl s$!* in flushing out and jump shots. That peep and slick action I still remember. Early 90's. Wish I could have kept it.
My father had a German 30 cal. water cooled machine gun mounted above the doorway of his home office. Of course it was missing the a few small parts to make it inoperable
Some burglar breaks in and your dads just sitting there with a machine gun like *sir please exit this building*
I was a little underwhelmed by the mg-42, until I had the opportunity to see one without a rate reducer in action… holy smokes!
Another historical perspective is that men who fought in the U.S. civil war could have worked in the factories that built the first Maxim guns.
MInd, blown...
Brandon I bought a Bulgarian Makarov because of you just because I thought it would be cool, but it turns out I love it and now conceal carry it!😂
They really are a magnificent design! I love the duplicity of function in like ALL the parts. Genius design.
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With love from Bulgaria. Regards!
I've done the same here!
Really cool video. Reminded me my grandpas Maxim in his attic. My cousin found that German Mauser in a river once.
I got to talk with a guy that is basically something like 6 km from the frontline. We ended up talking about the Luty smg and he basically said "even that would be good now". Well, that's war, as long as it's not a black powder archebuse it gotta have to do
Hi from Ukraine. When driving through Ukrainian rural areas, I've seen several Territorial Defense soldiers on checkpoints, who carry very old guns. I've seen one with a PPSh and 3-5 people with Mosins (could've mistaken some from afar). The further you are from the frontline and big cities, the less assault rifle you see and the more shotguns and old guns you see, for obvious reasons.
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Cool observation. Just be safe man.
Hope you and your family are ok Van. Be safe out there
Be safe man, and keep those tractors running, heard they are good for towing russian tanks.
Simo Hayha used a Mosin. So the gun should be good enough.
The Maxim machine gun was expressly designed by Mr. Maxim to be adaptable to just about any cartridge and caliber the Europeans could come up with. The first ones produced were in .303 British which used the came caliber bullet (bullet diameter) as the ones produced for the Russians, as well as a rimmed cartridge. Hearsay applies to it's original design, as according to how the story goes, Maxim was reportedly following the advice of a friend who essentially said that to make any money he should make something that allows these Europeans to kill each other more efficiently... Of course at this point since whether something like this was actually said is difficult to prove historically.
From what I heard maxim jumped on the band wagon of that idea because he thought a "killing machine" that is owned by everyone would make war pointless since everyone dies. Bad move Mr maxim, real bad move.
@@then00brathalos Aged like milk.
I heard his son invented the suppressor and used the same design to also make car mufflers. The Maxim Silencer Co. sold a lot of mufflers in the U.S. but I believe quit importing silencers after the National Firearms Act in the 1930s.
Fun fact: Maxim's name was Bob.
Apparently Maxims can take PKM belts. Supposedly
In the " great war " the British machine gun teams using the vickers gun were always able to have a nice hot cup of tea !
THe "dual maxim" thing is actually a different weapon based on modified Maxim barrel and firing group. But they seem lack some parts even if the barrels have those socket for water pipes. It had forced water circulation. There were 2, 3, four-barrel variants. THis one seems made out of spare parts. It's for them first reflex sights were invented, so having a modern there is a logical step.
AA quad mounting, right?
Brandon: These CoD Vanguard guns are stupid. You don't put a red dot and a suppressor on a hundred-year-old machine gun.
Ukrainian Soldier: Hey, good idea!
Ukranian military commanders played COD vanguard and were like: "damn that's some good shit"
Would it make sense if using it in darkness?
also russian soldiers: dying from stupid ukrainian guns ¯\_(ツ)_/¯
I mean, machine gun is machine gun and Maxim, as long as it has cooling and ammo, can fire for a very long time with little need for maintenance...
A ukraine god tier cod player is out there customizing everyones loadouts before they deploy so they dont have to. Like.
"I need a weapon for the coming war"
"I gotchu fam. Take this machine gun system from the 1800s and add a red dot sight and akimbo and youll be straight dude."
"Write that down WRITE THAT DOWN
To be fair, the British Royal Marines used the Vickers MMG until late into the 20th century, which is pretty close to a Russian Maxim, and any weapon that can shoot over a MILLION rounds without a misfire is never going to be Obsolete.
Face it: if you get shot with a .75 Ball from a 18th Century Musket, the Last thing you'll be complaining about would be that it's an Obsolete weapon...
I'm 100% sure there must be someone running around Ukraine with a Shashka saber and a positive body count with it. There is just no way it's not happening in the Cossack homeland
When that .75 caliber ball smacks into a basic kevlar vest and is stopped completely, then yes, they will call it obsolete XD
Assuming their ribcage isnt cracked or maybe that isnt carrying as much energy as I think it is.
@@extremepredudice body armor is a luxury over there
@@extremepredudice From a person who shoots muskets and muzzle loading rifles, if a brownbess ball hits your kevlar vest, yes, it will be stopped, but so will you as the force exerted will knock you of your feet, and while you are lying there all groggy a bayonet in the throat is final. Get hit in the arm or leg and kiss your limb good bye especially if it is a minnie ball. My Parker Hale Volunteer .451 will hurl a large lump of lead for about a mile and still kill, as recorded history of the USA civil war shows.
In the movie “Брат” (Brother) they stole a maxim from a museum and put it in the back of a station wagon, epic chase scene. The full movie is actually on TH-cam and is a classic, and has a great sequel that takes place in America
Imagine in future we will see Sturmgewehr with added cyber-eye aiming support modifications
As a former German Soldier i can Assume you: You DONT want to be on the receiving End of the Muzzle of an MG3. Old or not, the Firepower and Accuracy are still deadly, and you CAN easily mount modern Optics.
That sound is also terrifying and will break the confidence of opposing soldiers. The Taliban shat their pants when coming up against it.
I want one. Badly.
But didn't they reduce the rate of fire if the original mg42?
@@JayzsMr I think they adjusted it just so much that the accuracy got higher and you wouldn’t have to change the barrel so much due to overheating
having had some family and friends in the Austrian and German military in the 80s-2000s, it also occasionally happens for the odd MG42 part to sneak its way onto an MG3, some parts seem to work interchangeably, and it, by their statements, seemed to have not been a rarity for the windmill of friendship to make an appearance during cleanup
About the MP40- when i worked in a hospital in Eastern Europe, on my last day, my boss, asked if i wanted to take a picture, i said yes and he pulled out a MP40 (He told me they found some guns in the basement while doing construction, they gave away all of them except the MP40). Still have the picture to this day.
Where and when did this happen?
@@WorldCupWillie Nice try fed boi
@@WorldCupWillie Glowie spotted.
ABORT!
I repeat
ABORT!
the red dot on the double maxim does it for me.
edit, literally the next picture: The Lord!
Love your videos man! I had no idea such vintage and odd guns are being used in Ukraine. I love this stuff, keep up the great videos man.
Это потому что мы не думали о войне и не хотели ни с кем воевать, вот и не развивали армию, а когда война началась на Донбассе то воевали тем что было в складах ещё из ссср
Necessity is the mother of invention, but desperation is the mother of whatever the fuck drove some madlad to dual mount and Red Dot a pair of Maxim machine guns.
Bubba is licking his chops at this fuckery…
Modern problems require veteran solutions, and a PM1910 is a frosty old soldier indeed 🤘😎
To be honest weapons itself may be over 100 years old but is still more than capable to do its job in defensive warfare.
Kind of same story with mg42. That thing is still in active service in same form with bit different caliber.
That does tell us how little some things have progressed in time. Human is still very much allergic to metallic pieces flying in air.
And nobody is laughing to weaponsystem which is ripping shit around you no matter how outdated that thing would be.
@@Kesssuli germany should just give the ukrainians the MG3`s they have, since they are replacing them with MG5`s at the moment :D
The original maxim was actually designed to fire black powder cartridges until smokeless came shortly after and it worked with no modifications
Piggybacking on this and related: Has Brandon commented on made any comments about ammunition? With all of these weapons of various ages they do not use interchangeable ammunition. These videos appear to gawk at the guns and history without theorizing the supply chain difficulties of supplying them. Guess that’s why they are refurbishing recovered weapons.
@@1337billybob He already talked about the ammunition to some extent. He mentioned that most of the Russian guns are using or have been converted to use the 7.62x54R because they had a fuckton of that ammo in stock.
Did it really? Even with the pressure increase from smokeless? I get that back then optimization was less scientific, and it was probably overengineered to a considerable degree...but I'd be really surprised if it could simply switch over like that without issue or shortened useful life.
@@deathlis it’s recoil operated so I expect the mechanism would be less sensitive to pressure than piston or DI guns
I was looking for a comment “maxim predates smokeless powder”
That duel Maxim with the red dot makes me want to do a Gears of War meme so bad :). Best real laugh I have had all day.
1:57 this is some cod vanguard shit
No weapon ever becomes obsolete. People still get killed with rocks and spears. If it flings a projectile, people will use it.
The notion of obsolete weapons really only exists due to the notion that every war is by definition a small, professional operation done by highly trained soldiers that will adhere to the polite fiction known as a 'Fair Fight'. As seen with smooth brains that can't grasp the notion of ambushing a helicopter dropping off soldiers or a column of trucks or even marching infantry using shotguns or bolt action rifles or muzzle loading muskets or bows and arrows. Until people accept the full spectrum of war as being all inclusive rather than exclusive and extremely limited, we'll still have to listen to fools who believe charging in a direct attack is the only war to fight in a war and thus 'muh jets, muh nooks, muh unpossible to resist gobermen, now plz gib all guns'.
Right
I think muskets are obsolete..
@@azoniarnl3362 imagine seeing an entire platoon of musketeers on the front
@@azoniarnl3362 until you get shot by one
The British used the maxim gun in the first Matabele War at the battle of Bembezi. It proved vastly superior to the 10,000 Ndebele spear and riflemen (obviously)
Somewhere out there there's probably a maxim with a body count greater than a small countries population. 😅
"the brittish saw winning this battle as a sign from god that the white race was to rule all other races, historians are now pretty sure it was because they had guns" i dont remember where its from but it just popped into my head
@@Bran_Nuthin "The wild Ingubu with the fierce Imbezu on the right
Came charging from the northern bush, they were a fearful sight
And near 6000 warriors - we stopped them on the run
The bravest of the brave could never match the Maxim gun."
@@dave2.077 sounds like some azov bullshit. No race is superior.
@@shino933 saying that your race Is superior it's a bad thing only in White countries, in the rest of the world it's normal.
Twin maxims in the back of the truck is an improvised AA fast response team fighting drones deeply behind the lines. And cause it has extremely high rate of fire it's not bad for this task. They makes an pretty solid cloud of bullets in the air
I find it awesome that the idea of "standard issue" is gone in this war.
Whatever you have, throw it in the mix. Whether it's a PKM, Mosin-Nagant or a completely jacked up AK-74 out of a game like Insurgency; just shoot with it.
8:44 Judging from the muzzle booster/ flash hider the machine gun is actually Italian Beretta MG42/59 in 7.62 NATO. The German MG 42 booster has finned surface while the Beretta MG42/59 booster has smooth surface with small holes instead of the finns. Also MG 3 and MG 74 boosters have a more rounded shape compared to original MG 42 and Italian boosters which are both cylindrical.
Interesting. How can you differentiate a 42/59 from a German MG3?
@@M.M.83-U MG 3 and MG 74 boosters have a more rounded shape compared to the more silindrical boosters on the original MG 42 and Italian version.
@@hendriktonisson2915 The MG3 has an overall shorter booster with less holes. They have just the bottom row and after that comes that cone shaped muzzle (which isn‘t actually the muzzle since the barrel needs to reciprocate and isnt attached to the booster). Basically the whole finnend/perforated Part is missing.
@@M.M.83-U You can also see it on the sights. The MG 3 has a flip-up anti-aircraft sight
@@hendriktonisson2915 do you mean cylindrical?
Brandon, i am not lying, this would be the perfect way to collab with Gun-Jesus, Ian from Forgotten weapons to go into history depth about some weapons, at least to me, especially from WWI, the amount of tech from that that is still in use today is just amazing, at least from the standards that were basically unchanged for a century.
@Bernie Gores Link?
@Bernie Gores Is he really? Or does he just keep his opinion to himself? I've watched a LOT of his videos (though nowhere near all, especially is much older ones), and he just seems to keep it apolitical. Besides, Karl certainly isn't woke and they work together on InRange a lot.
@@deathlis "Karl certainly isn't woke"...... BRO! He is the definition of white guilt. He blocked me on Instagram for disagreeing with BLM. He's literally a cuck because it "empowers his wife". Bro! LMAO
This is a GREAT idea. But really, though, anybody collaborating with Gun Jesus is a great idea.
Not to mention that Ukraine a few months ago was pretty much stuck in trench warfare from what I remember.
Hi Brandon, just subscribed b/c this video was fun and educational...and about guns!
1.MG42s are present in AFU in significant quantities. All soldiers I know say they're super reliable and can be fixed pretty easily, and, surprisingly, we have lots of those things stocked somewhere.
2. kadyrovites (pro-russian chechens, because there are a lot of Chechens fighting in the Ukrainian forces) are much better equipped due to their subordination to special forces and, more important, kadyrov himself. He holds those as his private army if you will, and, naturally they're better equipped. But from what we know about them, they've got poor training, poor organisation and tend to leave battlefield as soon as it gets hotter than they're used to (which isn't too hot).
If I am not mistaken the Maxim machine gun was used on Russias border with the Chinese until the late 90s. Nothing beats a water cooled gun to stop an advancing army.
Wasn’t there a story about how the Maxim or some variant like the MG08 or Vickers kept firing for an entire day without breaking or overheating because the crew had good ammo and water supplies?
Water cooled guns have their uses.
They are Really heavy
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Not sure about that one haven't heard it before. I learned about the Russians using Maxims so long from Gun Jesus when he interviewed a guy several years ago about Russian gun history. It's still on forgotten weapons playlist.
@@Bran_Nuthin yeah no shit, imagine needing to worry about dehydration for your HMG
“Taking Grandpa for a walk.” That’s one way to put using a museum piece in combat.
#akgnotificationsquad
I came here was hoping to see the KelTec Sub2000 being mentioned (which I also own, chambered in 9mm). In case anyone is not aware, KelTec donated about 400 of them to Ukraine after a Ukrainian buyer when ghost on them at the start of the conflict.
The top scoring sniper (Simo Häyhä) in WW2 never used a scope, as he thought it would've hade him easier to spot. And he was a succesful competition shooter even before the war so he used only his own Mosin-Nagant rifle, not anything issued to him or later, gifted to him.
Maxim guns were high quality, built like a tank combined with a swiss watch and are very relevant/ deadly today. With water cooling they can pour on sustained fire for as long as the rifling in the barrel holds up
Longer if you've got spare barrels. Built for it.
If I remember my Forgotten Weapons correctly, the British decided to test the sustained fire of their old Vickers guns when they took them out of service and fired it for four or five days straight or put 5 million rounds through it.
@@michaeldavis4651 Yes, correct.
@@michaeldavis4651 the Britts that tested it sound merican as fuck. wonder if they shot into a hole how deep it would become though
@@michaeldavis4651 damn nice
Not surprised to see the Maxim still in use, it is in my opinion still one of the best MGs ever made for any use-case where the weight isn't a factor. My guess is that the old soviet union kept tons of them post WWI for use in pillboxes and other static fortifications and as vehicle-mounted anti-infantry weapons. besides, when the shit hit the fan there are really only two criteria for what makes a weapon good enough to be issued to the troops: 1. Does it work and 2. Is it more likely to kill the guy in front of the barrel than the shooter. if the answer to both is yes then it will do just fine
Wasn't that the one they shot for 8 hours straight, and it didn't jam?
@@galvanizeddreamer2051 I believe it was only 6 hours, but it's correct that it didn't jam
@@galvanizeddreamer2051 It was the Vickers machinegun you're thinking of, which is a variant of the Maxim, but made to be lighter than the Maxim. The brits had to get rid of some 5 million .303 British rounds since it was deemed not suitable for military use. A single newly rebuilt Vickers was used over 7 *days* of shooting. Worked in pairs and switched every 30 minutes with a third guy shoveling the brass away, fired in 250 solid round bursts and had to change the barrels ever hour and a half. Once the last round was fired, they inspected it in the shop and all the mechanisms were still good to go.
www.popularmechanics.com/military/weapons/a18971/forgotten-weapons-the-vickers-gun-is-one-of-the-best-firearms-ever-made/
Actually in WW2 the Russians put 4 Maxim's on the back of a truck for AA early on same deal but with one Dshk hell they even put a 23mm "fixed" as cannon on the back and screwed the suspension
@@5peciesunkn0wn Thank you for the clarification. Wonders of antique engineering, back when things worked first and foremost.
I just discovered ur channel today.
It's funny and informative I'm really enjoying it.
In all honesty, I'm surprised no one from the Ukraine isn't carrying an M1 Garand. That would be my "old school" modern weapon of choice!!!
It's possible most M1 Garands are stateside, -ish. I really don't know how common the Garand would be in Ukraine or Russia.
We need to see more Kel-Tec guns. Apparently Kel-Tec just sent a shipment of 400 guns to Ukraine so they are definitely out there.
crates of sub 2000's how fun is that?! How long before the Ukrainians figure out how to make them full auto?
@@stevemiller7433 give it a day and a dremel
nobody wants a range toy in a war zone
@@27dcx did you see what they gave and are using? I’d take a sub2k over some of that shit. 😂
@@27dcx 32 rounds of 9mm isn't really a range toy. Can't remember if it's Singapore, but some country somewhere is dealing with a military coup and civilian resistance are using 3D-printed FGC9s.
In the words of the boog: Run what you brung.
I guess the advantage of the Maxim is that it can functionally fire continuously until you run out of ammo.
and 2 off them get you over 1000shots/minuts. That is not bad for a long range shooting.
they use it because it still has same belt as later soviet machine guns, so they can just take modern ammo belt and isert it to maxim, that's massive advantage
And they have entire warehouses full of them.
@@janssonsamuel8005 the 1000 rounds per min only whit finnish maxims whit the fire rate speeder mecanism. If I am right.
@@aarettiniemitalo9743 iirc the base fire rate for the maxim is 500 rpm if you slap two maxims together its effectively firing 1000 rounds per minute since there are two machine guns that fire 500rpm firing at the same time.
Brandon, the war is a war is a war. Not "Ukrainian conflict", not "everybody-now-the" situation, the War between Russia and Ukraine. Thank you
Another crazy thing about the Maxim is that the high rate of fire makes it an effective anti-drone gun. Drones are getting vibe checked by a gun invented before man's first flight. What a timeline.
Considering all the MGs shown were Russian Pattern Maxims, it deeply hurts me on a level that they may have just scrapped the historically iconic wagon wheel turrets that they came with. Gets even worse when you realize how well built those things were...
most of thouse apear to be DPR/LPR forces, and for those guys it really was a case of "beggers can't be choosers")
There is imagine of a wheeled maxim with shield being watered after firefight if you find hard enough just not much
Well, they are iconic for pro-soviet part, not so sure about guys with "black suns" on vests.
Considering the mg-3 (mg42) is still in use 80 years after its design, much like the mauser bolt action (about 125 years) and the Browning machine gun system (about 120 years) just goes to show how advanced and forward thinking the designs were back in the day
And just how reliable and effective they are.
On the other hand - it's quite like firearms are sort of a wheel when done properly. You may get rubber instead of the steel rim etc. but it would be still a wheel. There were improvements but when used at the same scenario as was intended modern weapons are going to be better but not by such a huge margin as cartridge, repeaters and self-loaders made over cap&balls. In CQB you might have the most tacticool MP5 ever - if the other guy has working PPSH-41 you'd fight for your life as he had the same MP as you do.
+James Tessman
Very true. As some Italians already pointed out further below. The MG42 is an Italian donated one aka. MG/59 of which Italy gave many to Ukraine, in this case to the Azov Battalion.
Also as a German Reserve Soldier who served 6 years with the 23. Gebirgsjägerbrigade, to be exact the 231. Gebirgsjägerbattalion "Bad Reichenhall" and having had to carry the MG3 during Mountain Warfare Training, including Cliff Climbing, i can indeed vouche for the MG3 having been great and without Issues during my Service.
And i had several incidents, especially in the first Year in which the MG3 i carried had to take a lot of Bashing from all kinds of Alpine Geology
Prost & Cheers from Berchtesgaden in the Bavarian Alps
When you start to actually research about all of Browning's designs you quickly begin to realize the man knew exactly what he was doing and he was damn good at it.
@@mungo7136 Modern guns can shoot further and more accurately at distance.
Little Tachanka😂👏👏👏 I love this
Mate , cheers from Aus. I have the utmost respect for a fixed pair of Maxim , Vickers etc with modern sighting systems , no barrel changes , 650 RPM per gun ,,,,1200 RPM out to 2000 m ,,, mate , I DO NOT want to be in front of that .
Well, I'm not really surprised to see the Maxim - after all, its brother, the Vickers HMG, was in use until the 1990s or so. These guns have just one real shortcoming - they're darn heavy (frankly, the Maxim on its standard infantry mount weighs more than modern large-caliber HMGs do). But when they're mounted on vehicles or used for purely defensive purposes that becomes largely irrelevant, so... why not?
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As long as you can feed it rounds and cooling liquid it will cough out bullets, a rather nasty defensive weapon still.
Theoretically infinite sustained fire limited only by ammo, which still makes them excellent for denying terrain
Because water cooles sucks
The Soviets used to mount them on small trolleys so they could wheel them around on the battlefield.
Also has a pretty high fire rate. Also idk whether this is just a War Thunder thing or its actually real the Soviets had an SPAA that was basically 4 Maxims mounted on a pintle and mounted on a Gaz truck. Now I do not want to be on the receiving end of that. Now this guy 1:44 has the right idea.
The Maxim machine gun, by the way, was widely used during the Soviet-Chinese conflict on Domansky Island. I do not know the details, but I heard that the reason is water cooling, which made it possible to conduct continuous fire for a long time, providing a higher density of fire than PKM.
Having to actually maintain continuous fire for that long is just scary...
Ideally the MGs with a cooling jacket are oil-filled as it has a much higher boiling point than water. Eventually though the oil is lost through leaks and such so it's replaced with water. Once the water boils off it's easier to find for replacement, although there are accounts of soldiers using their own urine to fill the jackets when water became hard to get, either due to general lack of water or the pressing need to refill the jacket in combat without a handy water supply. Much like mortar teams urinating on their tubes to cool them when over-heating in combat.
Maxims were in production through all the Great Patriotic War. In 1969 they were already decommisioned, army got new PK machine guns. But suddenly we found out that PKs are not ready for real firefights. Overheeting problem was the biggest issue. So we just pulled out some good-ol' Maxims from the storages. About 300 thousands of them were manufactured so I think some post-soviet countries still have a bunch of them in storages as a Doomsday Weapon.
after the fire fight or in between one could make tea/coffee out of the hot water ...
The British did an experiment when they were getting rid of their .303 ammo. They put _1 million rounds_ through a Vickers gun (literally same gun as Maxim, and even same makers). They did follow the barrel change rules in the manual, I believe every 250 rounds but this is from memory so don't hold me to the exact number.
*The weapon was still within tolerances and was ready to shoot another million rounds.*
LOVE you, Brandon! Keep up all you're work!
Love the passion that Val M is a thing of beauty!
I’m not surprised that a lot of ancient weapons are seeing service there. The USSR kept large stocks of old weapons and both parties have at least some access to that stock. A Maxim sure as hell isn’t an M134 Minigun or an M249 SAW, but it’s better than nothing.
Also wait a few decades and those weird modified PKMs will be on some future version of Forgotten Weapons.
When mounted on a vehicle, id rather had maxim in good condition than m249.
@@Olson323
True. The point I’m getting at is that any automatic option is better than none. Essentially a long winded way to say that old repeated line that “the best machine gun is the one you have”.
@@Olson323
Also M249s are primarily designed for infantry if I recall. You wouldn’t really want one on a vehicle, when you could fit far stronger weapons instead.
@@my8thaccount236 like a Maxim?
Too bad my grandpa passed away last year. He fought the Japnese in the 2nd Sino-Japanese War and Chinese civil war in the '40s. He told me that he and his comrade had to urinate into the water jacket on their Maxim gun because they ran out of cooling water. I really want to see his reaction seeing this still in action in 21st century.
Going to get a lot of salt build up in the works if you piss in it.
@@robertwilliamson6121 always wash your tool after use 😉
Wow I couldn't imagine having to piss in a gun to keep it cool. I wonder how they did it with out being shot
@@alexbondeson2931 neither can I. But my grandpa was the one with shrapnel in his butt.
It's a combination of last ditch and on the line necessity. Water is far more valuable than piss but piss can fill certain roles when water is needed elsewhere.
Great video dude! First time watching! 🤙🏼
Yo you should do a video/ series on how the us service rifle has evolved since the revolution and what influenced each design, what tactics devolved as the weapon changed and so on.
Brandon, the DOD released footage that Ian covered of Ukrainian forces and US forces (circa 2015) modified tank mounted DSHKs to light/medium MGs to shoulder fired weapon systems using bicycle brakes as the trigger.
That would be a cool design for bullpup
When he said “taking grandpa for a walk” I was mid sip and nearly spit drink everywhere 😂 that’s a hilarious and wholesome way to describe using a wwii era gun from your home country
"taking grandpa for a walk"
Ukrainian sniper- aww how cute. Let me reunite you two. *aims sniper rifle*
@@gammafive6598 troll
2:12
LMG MOUNTED AND LOADED!
What you've taught me about the Maxim has rocketed it to one of my favorite historical machine guns.
Go check out C&Rsenal. They have several hours of Maxim coverage, including the German MG08 & MG08/15 (the "portable" version), the Russian MG10, and the British Vickers. Look for episodes #80, 81, 89, & 105 in their Primer small arms history series. Full histories, technical details and firing tests...
Seeing MG-42 is not that weird, it's a marvelous design of a machine gun.
It's even less weird to see that gun knowing it's a bit newer version of the MG 42 the Beretta MG 42/59 in 7.62 mm NATO.
The Soviets had large numbers of captured equipment from WWII and would send them to various organizations/states as military aid (depending on how much deniability they want, how much they like someone, and if these were specifically asked for. It would not surprise me if one of the Soviet caches of such material was inherited by Ukraine when the Soviet Union collapsed as the Soviets were always prepared to send arms (albeit preferring to send Soviet made arms once they were readily available). Those German WWII arms were probably put into storage in such a way that they wouldn't need any preventative maintenance for a century - or literally taken out of a museum. Probably both - and Ukraine is putting everything into service.
@@skoshman1 That's true. I remember seeing a footage of Viet Cong fighters with a MG 34.
@@skoshman1 The way I know this is an Italian made gun is the muzzle booster. Original MG 42 would have finned surface on the muzzle booster but the Italian booster has smooth surface with small holes. The MG 3 booster also has different design.
Father of the M60 and many others
"Taking grandpa for a walk" thats hilarious
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Now I have to watch Super Troopers again. I forgot all about that movie.
Fun fact: Maxim proclaimed to be the very first person to invent the lightbulb, saying Edison was second and only got more press attention.
It was Tesla..
Light bulbs existed for a while before them, they just sucked and constantly went out. Edison's and the rest just made improvements to making them last a decent enough amount of time
@@someweeb3650 except edison was the guy who spoke the joke the loudest
Edison was a thief, he stole more than he invented.
@@interruptingcow2418 Even with all Tesla made (but Edison stole), I've never heard of Tesla even dabbling in light bulbs...
We need a video of cursed or weird guns seized in police raids. I think that would make some good content
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The PPS-43 can be easily converted to 9mm with just a barrel swap, so maybe they did that. I feel the MG42 is WW2 era because the brown wood stock and brown Bakelite grips. Seeing those WW2 relics in use is crazy awesome!
the lack of forward aa sight mount /material says not mg42 or m53 .There is also the lack of a rear hole in the rear sight bracket for the flip up aa sight along with the weird muzzle cone holes .
@@jordoo1978
"They are not fascist their President is Jewish." - Useful Idiots that do not believe collaborators were/are widespread.
Thousands of German Arms in storage. 6:25
The MG42 was sent to the Ukranians by the Italians, made in the late 50s an 60s.. It is chambered in 7.62x51 and it is still widely used in the Italian Army.
Nope - PPS not converted - there is no reason for this.
the Danish military started to phase out the MG42 in 2004
I am too lazy to explain "gun unification" rules of Russian regular infantry so i'll skip directly to fearsome Chechens.
Those are special infantry and police units focused on counter-terroristic operations and urban warfare. Simple as that. They are allowed to modify their weapons if they wish in any way they like. For their own money (MoD not subsidizing it). Since "urge to be fancy" is a one of their well know cultural characteristics, guys always making their guns modded to the very maximum. Weapons is a real religion for them and a way to express themselves. They are more gun freaks than anyone here, excluding maybe Brandon himself. And this is not an exaggeration. That's why you can see a lot of modded guns in their hands.
“urge to be fancy” … like Ramzan Kadyrov in his Prada army boots, writing love poems to his Glock on Instagram? I don’t believe I’ve ever seen a more slappable face. The guy is a twat of the highest order.
@@stereoroid and he is also bloodthirsty monster, if you read about what he is doing in Chechenya
@@stereoroid He's basically a mob boss at the head of a brutal mafia state (inside another mafia state that is Russia). Twat of the highest order is an understatement.
And their fierceness is seriously overstated, at least when opponents have guns too. Guys know when it's time to let others do the job and when it's time for cool selfies.
@@randombystander991 Dude. You are right and wrong at the same time. While one part shoots video and selfies.
The other part is still in Mariupol. in the hottest places. Along with the DPR Army and the Marine Corps.
Need as many videos of this as possible. It’s quite interesting.
I can understand putting some of those old machines into use especially in static or rear areas, but garbage rods?
In a world of Kalshnikovs and Armalites, a Mosin Nagant is only a few steps ahead of a spear or baseball bat.
REALLY? Would you rather shoot at someone who was actively trying to put your lights out at say 400 yards with an AR or an AK , or a Mosin? Remember, the Russians won Olympic gold with the Mosin. Not to mention the softball-like trajectory of the AKs. What is the bullet drop of the 7.62x39 at say 400 yards? It's 5 feet. 500 yards? Just over 10 feet. Compare that to the Mosin round, the 7.62x54, 400 yards, just over 2 feet, 500 yards, app. 5 feet. Which spear would you bet your life on? Yeah, that's what I thought.
@@geraldmahle9833 My man, Mosins aren't as accurate as you may think. Flatter shooting? Yes. Flatter enough shooting to make it a better choice over an AK74 (the most common used in the conflict)? Nah. Most mosins and old bolt actions not specifically built for sniping purposes aren't anywhere near as accurate as you think they are, and if anything those AK74s have better barrels and quality control than the garbage rod ever did. Most mosins are worn out, and that squad of guys with ARs and AKs are going to be able to put a lot more lead down range and on target a lot quicker than Ivan with a relic ever could.
The DPR and LNR troops aren't using Mosins because they're fit for purpose, they're using them because both forces are critically under supplied and the Russians use them as fodder. If the Mosin did actually offer significant advantages over the AK and ARs, the Russian troops would be using them, but they aren't because they don't need to.
@@iannordin5250 You've missed my point- the AK is an assault rifle, intended for close-in fighting. The Mosin is a 1,000-yard battle rifle. NOBODY trains their troops in marksmanship at long range anymore. It's pretty much entirely spray and pray. "Most Mosins are worn out" because they were USED, not because they're old. It's an attribute, not a criticism. Have you missed the eternal search for a flatter shooting round, for war and also hunting? The mid-range trajectory of a black powder 45-70 round at 500 yards is 30 FEET, the 7.62x54 is 10 feet. The whole push in military rifles 1885-1910 was for faster, smaller, flatter-shooting rounds. The U.S. Lee rifle in the 1890s fired a 6mm round. I never claimed an issue Mosin is necessarily an Olympic- capable rifle. I personally don't know which arsenals put out the best Mosins, Whether Tula, the Finns, whomever, but I'll put whichever it is against an AK47 or 74 any day. I fired an AK 74 in Afghanistan and it's okay, but going up against a Mosin with it? Not this old soldier.
As a former tankman on T-55, PKT can be fired without what you call 'selenoid', that is to say without the electro-magnetic trigger. Both the coaxial machine gun in the tank (which is what the PKT is mean to be, T standing for 'tankovoi', i e 'of the tank' or 'for a tank') and the main gun have alternative ways of being fired if there's no electic power in the tank. (The same, btw, goes for turning the turet without the electic stabilizer and turnking the motor on without a starter: there's a back-up system for everything.) The way it is done in theory is this: the gunner (who sees the target through the sights) gives a command to the loader who presses a button on the PKT itself. This button is actually a trigger although it may not seem like one. I say 'in theory' because it can only work if the motor is not running, otherwise the loader will have hard time hearing the gunner.
If the electric system is powered, the PKT is fired by the gunner pressing the left button on the joystik-like handle with which he aims the PKT along with the main gun.
In other words, it should not be that hard to convert a PKT to a hand-held PK. If it is hard in practice in a shop that is not designed to manufacture guns, I don't know.
You are very wrong for the reasons why the Chechen’s have “cooler” small arms. First, they are incorporated in Rossguard from the private army of Khadyrov ( the president of the Chechen republic ) but they still have their own budget and they are at liberty to purchase what they want from the small arms like special forces unlike average infantry man who gets what the army issues. The “Chechen” forces are not given anything heavier than MRAP fire power wise for political reasons since they can “rebel” over the loose money driven control of their Chechen leader. Also, Chechens like new expensive items as token of their pride being respected, that’s primarily why they have these nice looking guns.
Very good acessment on how things work in real world Autocratic countrys! Small tokens like nice guns guarantee loyalty in a system where Power is the only thing that ensures your survival. CGP Grey did a great video about the "Keys of Power"
Yes. Putin gave up on governing Chechnya and effectively sold it to the most powerful Chechnyan bandit to rule it for him so he can buy whatever he wants as long as he keeps his bully boys happy with their toys. Putin’s fears of losing his buffer states were triggered by not only Ukraine going it’s own way but Belarus also wriggling under the thumb of it’s Putin backed bully boy.
They also wanted those cool John Deere tractors but GPS screwed them.
and it's kinda funny how he mentioned "an Instagram model with a 70-year-old sugar daddy" because that literally describes Kadyrov and Putin
I can say you more, on this video (maybe) Chechens that fight in Ukrainian Foreign Legion (yes, they are existing). If that was Chechens from russia, they must have a George's ribbon (it’s is a black and orange ribbon). Every russia or bad Chechens soldiers brings this ribbon, but in this video I didn’t see this ribbon on this Chechen soldier, so maybe it was a Chechens soldiers who fight with Ukraine. Also he had a yellow ribbon, by this ribbon Ukrainian army shows experienced soldiers (also there is a blue ribbon, it shows inexperienced soldier)
They really brought the dinner plate!! Actual madlads
The thing with small firearms is that its basically max tech. You cant really invent new things onto a firearm anymore. Best example is the MG3/MG42, yes you can modify it with how many rounds per minute but thats basically it, thats the reason why germany is basically using this as their main machine gun since 1942 because it cant really get better anymore. This is why we are seeing so many older firearms because the guns from 50,60,70,80 years ago can still give u hell
Media: "Ukraine is winning! Russia is weak!"
Ukraine: *pulls out the kitchen sink and desperately begs for weapons, ammo, and personnel*
I can't help but feel like somebody may be lying to us...
Ukraine is an utter master at Propaganda, I don't think anyone else would be able to function with the walking PR disaster that is Azov, but Ukraine manage to keep Azov's warcrimes for the past 8 years under raps.
@@themanformerlyknownascomme777 The country ran by former KGB operatives and officers, which was once known as one of the best at propaganda in the world, does not run Ukraine. Keep in mind that all of the Azov and atrocities from 2014 are Russian released and sponsored. Propaganda runs both ways so as unbelievable as a lot of stuff the Ukrainians and some of the West puts out, goes double for the stuff Russia has pushed out.
@@Talishar I saw alot of independant info from 2016
The truth is...both sides are losing.
Yes.....you can win in the short term but not have logistics for the long term. You can win nearly every battle but loose a war,(hell it can be nearly a metaphorical battle you loose)
The sight on AS Val is a night vision scope, judging by its thickness.
There are also few misconceptions (since you are offended by the term 'propaganda' ):
- ukrainians are converting tank MGs since 2014. This doesn't have anything to do with 'russian tanks'. Ukraine had WW3-sized amount of soviet tanks since the collapse of Soviet Union. Many of them just rusted under the sun, those which survived were very badly serviced and were abandoned at first attempt of using them in battle. That it why they have excessive amount of spare tank MGs without tanks to use them on
- this chechen fighter have good gear because he is a member of elite spetsnaz unit, not because he is chechen. There are media of other unit from Chechnya storming Mariupol, who are just police officers with combat experience, and they have standard army gear, maybe even worse. As for Zenitco, I am not aware of any government contracts with them, there is a very high chance this dude pimped his gun with his own money.
The chechen forces are rossgardia units and puré military units and very well equiped coin light infantry and spetsnaz
@@ignaciomunizdiaz5194 I'll have you know that Rossgardia also has a shit-ton of poorly trained conscripts, so them being from that wing of the military doesn't necessarily mean anything by itself. Spetsnaz on the other hand is some serious stuff. I've also read elsewhere that the elite forces get some leeway in the way in which individual fighters can outfit their guns, so it's definitely not unreasonable to assume that that bearded mofo is special forces.
@@BeyondTheIslands
You know who you're lyng? The bulk of the rossgardia are under contract troops and their training level are on par with the usmc
@@ignaciomunizdiaz5194 My source is I am Russian and I was a conscript once, and I have personally known many people who served as conscripts in the Rosgvardia, patrolling the streets and standing at guard during public official functions in Moscow. True, sergeants and above are contracted (as it goes), but there is a substantial amount of privates/corporals who are set to leave the armed forces come the end of their 365 days. I did not say that the majority were conscripts. Be careful in the future about such bold accusations.
Fool, Ukrainians do not remake tank submachine guns, they make them at the Mayak plant and only machine guns are removed from captured Russian tanks and converted into a hand-held machine gun
I really like how you just talking about these guns, without choosing to support any sides.
In terms of the older weapons fielded, only shows that no matter how fancy your new stuff is, the old one can still put you 6 ft under.
The Maxim brings 500-600 rpm to the field and should not be underestimated. Wasn't it the Brits, who fire 1 Million rounds trough a Vickers Gun without without major malfunctions? Tat stuff was build to last... and the MG42 just slaps. The sound alone of that gun, emptying a belt is terrifying.
Also made it here in time without the #akgnotificationsquad ;)
The MG42 is a old design, but if recall they were in service in 1st world militaries till recently.
@@st.michaelsknight6299 it had some small changes and refinements. it is currently the mg 3. it has a slower fire rate than the mg42, but its basicly the same
edit: the m2 browning was also created between ww1 and 2. a lot of development from that era is still being used today. im refrencing the mg34, which is the more expensive version of the mg42
I'm very certain the gun shown was an MG3. It makes sense, since the Germans are sending weapons
@@kyle18934 I thought alot of militaries also just rechambered the mg42 to .308 and used that till like 2000.
I’m pretty sure it’s because we are seeing two countries who doesn’t have a mountain size pile of cash fighting each other meaning that they are using what they got.
There's a rumour that British machine gunners historically used the Maxim to make a cup of tea, which would make it exceptionally British (and give it extra appeal to the Russians, since they enjoy their tea as well).
The British Army are renowned tea drinkers, to the extent that all British armoured vehicles are fitted with a "boiling vessel" and considered unserviceable if it is inoperative.
I can vouch that Commonwealth forces did indeed do that in WWII with the Vickers. My grandfather noted with some annoyance that this was done in the early morning - served as a wake-up call for anyone in earshot.
It’s not just for tea. It’s mostly for food, and back during the Cold War, when everyone thought they were going to be fighting a nuclear apocalypse, it was expected that guys would be stuck in the vehicles for days.
@@kokofan50 Well, the Brits did certainly. Took the Americans longer to warm up to the idea.
Just let someone else taste the tea first if you've been fighting somewhere without a fresh water source.
I'm inclined to believe that. We used to put canned meat in the tank engine, and it would be cooked when we finished driving
Chechens are TikTok warriors. They don't know how to hold a gun, but they sure know how to fight a building block.
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Well, the Maxim still works just fine - seriously, most of the weapons of the "great War" (WW1) would still work ok today! Sure, they aren't fancy and don't use polymers etc. - but you can't argue with the firepower a belt-fed water-cooled MG can provide...hell, something like the M2 is still being used and that designed during WW1, just like 1911 pistols (most modern handguns are based on that, just double stacked magazine added, different caliber and rails for lights etc.)...hell, the British performed an endurance test on a watercooled MG (don't remember if it was a Maxim) before retiring them and they fired that thing for several days non-stop (replacing the barrels when they were worn out and revilling the water-jacket when needed)! They had to shovel away the empty casings and even after all that? The gun worked just fine!
Of course if you swap the barrels out on the MG it'll keep singing. That's the failure point of all MGs. Most modern MGs will keep singing too if you keep the barrels swapped out and load the ammo properly. Nearly every stoppage I had on my MGs have been from improperly loaded ammo in the belt getting jammed up in the belt itself. Especially when a lot of modern mounted MGs use a sleeve over the portion of the belt nearest the breech to help keep debris from getting picked up by the belt and dragged into the action. If you don't fully seat a round properly in the belt and the round is sitting a little forward than it should be on the link, it'll get caught in the sleeve and jam.
I would have zero problem carrying a luger or a hi power into a war. Not shitting my pants in a fox hole out of fear? Who knows
I agree on tthe Maxim, but the 1911? Not so much. Modern handguns are far superior in the durability, longevity and field abuse department. 1911 is too complicated. It's like a Berretta 92FS - really pretty, obviously I own one, but noticeably inferior outside the range. But the Maxim is still a beast even today.
Every army in the world stopped using water cooled machine guns for a reason. The Maxim and Vickers were great guns when they were first introduced, but at the time, military doctrine deployed machine guns in batteries like artillery pieces. By 1917, though, the writing was on the wall and everybody knew that mobility of firepower was going to be a huge tactical advantage. Having firepower is great. Being able to quickly redeploy it wherever it was needed or carrying it with you and using it during the assault phase was a big game changer. The British 1937 pattern web equipment had no cartridge pouches for rifle chargers, it had two magazine pouches for the Bren gun because the entire section carried Bren magazines in their webbing, while their rifle chargers were just slung in Mk.3/1 cloth bandoliers. The entire infantry section was organized around the Bren, while the Vickers had been relegated mostly to static supporting fire, aircraft and naval roles. When belt fed, air cooled guns with detachable ammo boxes and spare barrels came about, there was really no reason to use a water cooled MG other than simply not having anything else.
@@deathlis Yeah, the 1911 is a little iffy. I'd take it over having no pistol, but it definitely wouldn't be my first choice. Between the single stack magazines, SAO design, two manual safety systems and unnecessary mechanical complexity, it's really not a great choice. John Browning himself recognized the shortcomings of his design and corrected most of them when he invented the Hi Power. Personally, I think the only reason the USMC bought 12 000 of them in 2014 is because someone had a 1911 fetish.