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I'm imagining the conversation with the store clerk: "More water today sir?" "Yeah, didn't expect the job to be this tough" as he hands the clerk some $ with a blood soaked hand and a wink.
@@T-Jex Exactly. The alien king didn't want bastard spawn running around, threatening to take control of the galactic empire from rightful heirs. A cloaked UFO zapped everybody, including Kennedy, with a neutron beam. Alien operatives on scene in disguise then dropped bullet fragments and whole bullets to conceal the nature of the weapon used. LHO was the alien's fall guy, under direct alien control through a microscopic anal probe the government eventually found but were unwilling to disclose; this is why JB decided to keep data classified.
"Kennedy was not used to his wife being annoying for so long and had a nervous melt down as his head just exploded from being next to his wife for so long"
On the day this was released, I had to do a presentation as a wax figure as a historical figure/famous person. We’d been preparing it for nearly 3 months in 7th grade (I’m now going into 11th on 2 weeks tomorrow) I chose JFK and my presentation just happened to be on the date of the 50th anniversary. At the end I turned around and had a laser pointed at the back of my neck. The teacher thought it was funny asf and have me 105 out of 100 (5 extra credit for the laser reason).
What we do know is Poppy had his wet-team consisting of 3 shooters who ALL engaged the target all the while they "Setup" LHO by telling him he was "Hired" By FBI to "Protect" JFK... they did the same "Exact" thing to Paddock~! #FACT
First thing to notice is that the Carcano bullet did not blow up the skull like the actual bullet did. Why? Because Mr James Files who gave a very compelling interview narration of how he was the grassy knoll shooter used hollowed, mercury filled bullets that are designed to explode upon impact. Sadly, the autopsy never tested the brain for residue of different types of bullets, or they would have been able to prove or disprove the mercury bullet mystery. Also, this test shows how the entry wound was small, just like the FRONT entry wound on JFK and the exit wound was larger. Not as large as what was described by Dallas doctors as a huge rear exit wound, but still much larger than the entry wound.
The reason the doctors said the exit wound in the back of his head was huge is because the exit wound WAS huge at first. Kennedy was tampered with between bethesda naval hospital and dallas.
a) Parkland doctors never once turned the body over to look at the back of the head. b) Kennedy is very clearly seen in Zapruder's film to suffer a massive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind. c) Autopsy shows the shots came from behind and you can see the Parkland doctors examining the photos on NOVA in 1988 and having no particular problem with them. d) "Mr." James Files was in Chicago during the assassination and when confronted with evidence he tried to claim he was being confused with his own nonexistent twin brother. NBC cancelled their planned TV show on this lying clown after taking a closer look at him.
@@aaronz7056I wonder who is paying you to authenticate the official account because your points are over simplified and do not take real world ballistics into account! With reference to the four points you made:- a) Parkland doctors were sworn to secrecy by the secret service and one doctor later spoke out and said the wounds referred to in the official report did not correspond to what he saw. b) In the Zapruder film Kennedys head jerks backward and Jacky Kennedy can clearly be seen retrieving part of Kennedy's skull from the bootlid of the car therefore debunking your "massive exit wound at the temple" assertion. c) No autopsy photographs have ever been released and since the doctors were bound by secrecy as per point a) , your point c) is invalid and can be ignored. d) Anyone who claims to know exactly what happened should be taken with a large degree of scepticism and is most probably either a lunatic or a planted distraction therefore to even mention him weakens your case. In short I do not claim to know what happened but here are some other points to bear in mind firstly to shoot from the book depository and be the lone gunman that killed Kennedy that the official report claims happened is difficult for a number of reasons, shooting from an elevated position sounds easy but often leads to inaccurate shot placement meaning a headshot on a moving target by a non expert is extremely unlikely, Secondly snipers hardly ever aim for headshots as the target is often missed and this by experts, Thirdly the distance from the book depository and the target and the round being used meant that since the bullet travels more slowly than todays sniper calibres which have a flatter trajectory and this means that the bullet would have dropped fractionally the shooter would have had to make allowance for this fact and that Oswald was not a proficient shooter, it would have made the shot even more difficult! The mere fact that the documents have been kept secret begs closer inspection to the facts. Two other coincidences which bear mentioning, after the assassination Lyndon B. Johnson changed many of Kennedy's policies with specific relevance to the war in Vietnam and when Richard Nixon was ousted from office he was replaced by Gerald Ford, an unelected bureaucrat who was part of the investigation into the assassination of JFK!
No, I just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying armchair detectives like you so paranoid they assume anybody not on board for this "conspiracy" idiocy must be "getting paid" by somebody. a) Want to keep your coup top secret? No problem! Just go around threatening top surgeons at this major hospital (within minutes of the shooting, apparently) they'll all get their legs broke if they don't spend the rest of their lives lying about what happened and bending over backwards making themselves all accessories to treason.... LOL Never mind those doctors spoke openly about the assassination from the time it happened, often to conspiracy authors, so you now full well that's B.S. b) Kennedy is very clearly seen to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the temple, the limo sped up abruptly, and Jackie picking up a piece of his head hardly negates that/ c) Plenty of photos were released. d) The rest of your statement is full of hysterical rampant paranoia and wild speculation. You're operating on the automatic assumption somebody had safely approached (or "threatened") scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, pathologists, x-ray technicians, ballistics experts, photographers, whole commissions, etc., and persuaded them all to obey illegal orders to commit heinous crimes and knock themselves out assisting some bloody coup.
No, I just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying crackpots so paranoid they assume anybody not on board for this "conspiracy" idiocy must be "getting paid to authenticate the official account." lol
i have no opinion on the matter, but i think it should be brought to your attention that water is *not* soft. liquids are uncompressible, meaning upon sudden impacts the volume cannot be displaced quickly enough, causing water to act as a tough solid for a split second after the impact. this is the reason why falling flat on water hurts. this effect is in part mitigated by objects with low surface area, such as a bullet, but i still think fleece or some sort of foam/fibers would make a better bullet preserver.
If the bullet keyholes (like it did in all his tests), they dont have the low surface area anymore, as we can see by the big ole dent on the side of it.
No, you use water. That's what the FBI, ATF, etc use. You just don't put them in containers, because then... as you said, it's uncompressible for a moment, until the container is pierced.
"Get off there fly, that's not for you." See Brandon does care about animals!!!! Not even a fly will be harmed in the making of his videos. So wholesome, I love it!
Pretty sure the equation is "humor = time/tragedy" because a larger tragedy means significantly more time before it's funny, and a smaller tragedy is more acceptable to make jokes about sooner. Like 9/11 jokes are funny now but would have been taboo in the mid 00s, whereas JFK jokes are just now getting acceptable and still receive a bit of flack. It also implies that a tragedy with no time is still funny. If it JUST happened, no one's laughing about it yet. Like Columbine jokes with "that one kid in a trench coat" but no Christchurch jokes.
"Well yeah, the original shot was from a much longer distance, but the barrel was also kinda sorta longer, so I vaguely guess this all works out. I think." Peak scientific method is what I call this.
and he is unfortunately wrong. Distance matters... a lot Also not sure why he couldnt find the bullet that didn't end up in the water bottle. He can scour the ground or review the camera replay to get a good idea where it went to find it
PPU and (I forget the other brand. Precision something) is where it’s at for “extinct” WW2 cartridges. I have a lot of 6.5jap from them (6.5x50 semi rimmed)
@UCrMwcGSu7KtAc5dFvjwZVYQ oh I know, that's how I get my 6.5 carcano and 7.5 swiss. Well actually I have the military surplus 7.5 swiss. Still, I have been using PPU for years, problem is 6.5 carcano ppu can be rare some parts of the year and can cost over 4 bucks a bullet.
I was actually just telling a friend about this, 6.5 carcano tends to have a thicker jacket compared to other calibers, and it's not a super high velocity round. Not saying there weren't shenanigans around the Kennedy assassination, but if any bullet would look pristine after passing through bone, that's a good contender.
I mean, we know he got shot in the head. It's perfectly reasonable to believe it was a 6.5 Carcano, as the official narrative goes. The main theorizing is about who did the shooting, and who supported it.
When I first saw the Zapruder film I remember thinking 'well this destroys everything they said because you could see the shots clearly coming from different directions because of the splatter coming out of his brain.' Then the History channel tried to come out and say 'well you don't really see what you think you see' and went through this whole cockamamy, bullcrap explanation on why we really don't see what we are seeing. And some people actually bought into it. I think in all honesty some people just don't want to believe the government was responsible for it.
Brandon. As a carcano owner for years. I must add you shot the wrong ammo and that makes a large difference. The modern spritzer bullets are designed to tumble and the original loads were 160grain round nose which was known to zip through enemies in the wars and not cause much damage.
I agree, my ammo behaves the same. I have shot the PPU stuff and its a touch small in OD 0.264 and tumbles badly even before hitting the 75 yard target, plus the accuracy SUCKS BADLY. There was different barrel sizes used in the Model 38. Mine is the larger, 0.268. Hornady made some for the larger Carcano in OD of 0.2675, this stuff shoots well in my gun, just as good as the projectiles I have pulled from some vintage 0.268 I have found. Also, the pulled vintage projectiles seem to have a heavier jacket compared to the PPU after finding the rounds in the safety barrier of earth I have. The vintage rounds are always hardly damaged VS the slightly/moderate more deformed tumbling PPU which could explain a lot. Never thought about taking photos of them. Anyhow, that's the short story on the Carcano story, there is much more to it so i put it in a condensed version.
The way he shot that i think was at the range for uncompromised bullet ballistic? Lol also the bullet was freshly hot and hit water there are a million factors that may or may not play and as you said modern ammo, and thinking about it i theorized exactly that bullet outcome give or take a little ojeeze look at md ramble
Brandons "testing our PROP gun in 3, 2, 1" was perfectly accurate, no? The rifle that he was holding was his PROPerty i think. Property of the studio/Brandon/who-ever-lent-Brandond-the-rifle :D
@@jimmypea2207 Lyndon Johnson openly stated that it was worth it for him to give up Senate Majority Leader for Vice President, because VPs had a 1 in 4 chance of becoming President when the sitting President died. He was also facing a huge series of scandals based on corrupt conduct in Texas.
"Giving Lyndon B. Johnson a job in 3, 2, 1..." That had me rolling laughing more than it probably should have. I do work in the medical field, though, and you have to have at least a mildly dark sense of humor to be in this line of work.
I'm watching from 2yrs into the future. If you re-watch the video at the time of impact, you can see a black spot that gives a trajectory. They're all different . The 1st goes down the 2nd, goes up to the right, and the third, you have.
Dude is the only person to be a congressman, senator, governor and president. Made respect for LbJ, even if he whipped his dick out to the press constantly
WWII surplus ammo (as used by Oswald) used bullet jackets that were MUCH thicker than modern bullets. Further, the cores were harder. Modern cores are nearly pure lead. Not so in WWII.
@@balldude8573 That is not actually how terminal ballistics work. I collect spent bullets and melt them down. I end up with buckets of bullet jackets. Some shredded, some pristine, even after hitting the berm filled with sand, rocks, and other bullets. The Carcano bullet will pass straight through almost anything soft, as evidenced by about 1,000 previous tests. Your intuition may be from thin-jacketed modern bullets and hollow points, but it does not pass muster here.
Honestly, this is about the most fun you can have watching a Trainwreck of mishaps and just pure bizarre bullet paths. I enjoyed this thoroughly, and I'm sure Joe would be proud of your efforts!
The only thing that I see that could be different (not because I know) but I shot a deer close and found a bunch of bullet fragments and asked a gunsmith why I found so many fragments. He said “how far was it when you shot it”and I said “30 yds”. He said “at that close of a distance the bullet is still so hot it fragments apart” (not full metal jackets). I wonder if you shot it farther away if it would have even less bullet “damage”
I think you said it best: "bullets do weird stuff" You could probably fire a thousand 6.5 carcano rounds at a thousand dummy heads and never really get the same result as the photographed bullet.
@LabRat Knatz Absolutely true, hopefully someday someone will model this type of thing and get to the bottom of it. One could write a whole masters thesis on terminal ballistics
The photographed bullet didn't go through a head. And it is being shown from the least-deformed angle in the shot all the conspiracy theorists use, from other angles you can see more deformation. Just like the bent round Brandon has, rotate it to the right angle and it seems less deformed.
recommendation for the future: you can put the bullet through the water jugs with less deformation if you open the lids, that gives the water some place to displace to and while it will probably take more water to slow down, it will also allow the bullet to retain its shape better.
The simplest option is to use large transparent plastic bags filled with water. Pros - Cheap. Minimum shipping weight. With a bit of luck and duct tape, some bags can be reused. Cons - Requires a tap with water and a hose or the nearest body of water / stream (if you are not a fan of outdoor bucket exercise - also a pump and a hose). You will have to come up with a way to keep the bags from falling / crushing (ingenious use of ropes, tent poles, dead wood, planks, stones, tires, obscene language).
A car once charged through our 3 hmmwv convoy in our sector in Baghdad. Three different gun truck lit him up with. Three different 240 gunners let off close to 100 rounds from different angles. The guy got out after the engine blew and didn’t have a scratch on him. Not one freaking scratch. And the car was Swiss cheese. Terminal ballistics make no sense sometimes.
I think it’d be a great idea to put down some white tarps under the ol’ table to help the bullet stand out if it stays within a close distance. Kick*as vid B, keep ‘em coming. 🤙🏻🇺🇸
Lol hey, how many modern holidays or historical anniversaries go all out with recreating it’s origin? 🤷🏻♂️ If you’re gonna do something, do it right 😆
I used to live near an old WWII era officers target range, we used to go as kids to dig out the bullets from the dirt bank there. They were mostly .38 sidearm bullets, we would collect the undeformed ones but there were also some rifle bullets that were always bent or broken.
Why not just some ballistics gel? Did he set out to sabotage his own experiment? And wait, was the point to prove the bullet that hit Kennedy would look different from one that didn't?
As amazing as it sounds, shooting into the pool would probably destroy the bullet. Surface tension at very high speeds is a huge force. In bottles bullet goes through plastic straight into the water, skipping surface tension. What happens to the .50 bullet shot at the pool was verified by Mythbusters: th-cam.com/video/yvSTuLIjRm8/w-d-xo.html
Not only gave LBJ the presidency then he gave Hoover a lifetime appointment then escalated Vietnam making $$$$$$$ for Ladybird Johnson’s family who was selling supplies to the Army Corps of Engineers. Nothing to see here at all folks.
I'm hardly an expert, but as I understand, water is not particularly soft. The surface tension results in something roughly as hard as concrete which can cause a pretty significant amount of damage to a projectile, especially one travelling that fast. As Paul Harrell said, "Water is an almost perfect medium for projectile expansion." A quick google search shows that a large cardboard box filled with rubber landscaping mulch provides an excellent medium for catching bullets without causing excess damage to them.
I fire hollowpoint bullets into water jugs when I'm testing my hand loading recipes to check for over or under expansion. (I usually use one-gallon milk jugs because the plastic is pretty thin. Through one jug and into my own new-and-improved high-tech fleece bullet stop.)
Police fire bullets into water tanks to check the forensics of the bullet and when they pull it out its completely unharmed. Ive seen it in person. It slows it down but does not deform the bullet at all.
@@joshsmith-uy5iw I'd like to test that with my calipers. I'm not saying you're wrong, of course. I'd just like to fire something like a longish rifle round at high velocity into their collection tank and see if it deformed it or if it truly is unchanged.
@@joshsmith-uy5iw it just really depends on the bullet I think. I’m pretty sure most guns used in crime are pistols firing fmj ammo. Ive seen hollow points (I’m sure not all do) expand in water
The rounds used here had Boat Tail Spitzer bullets the ones from LHO's rifle were round nose FMJ. Boat tail Spitzer bullet vs round nose might make a difference. Spitzer bullets tumble and deflect easier. The taper of the bullet makes it weaker than the straight walled round nosed FMJ as the lead in the rear has less to push against ahead of it. Nevertheless what i think would be most interesting and impactful would be the amount of antimony in the lead of the original bullet. Higher antimony levels would make the lead harder to deform. It's a theory, a Projectile theory. Thanks for watching
Was going to comment the same thing Funny the Italians kept using the old design well into ww2 when most countries went the Spitzer's before or during ww1
Paul Harrell..? Is that you? But na seriously, I was looking for an explanation as to the differences in the rounds. The 'spitzer' that was shown almost looked like it was made out of brass to my untrained eye.
l'm certain of one thing, untiI those documents are reIeased, without heavy redaction, we won't know the truth. AIways interesting videos here though and l appreciate the humor in these times we Iive in.
This shot has been tested over the years, again and again. One demonstration that I recall a while back, actually set up an exact replica of the position of JFK in relation to that of Conally in terms of distance apart and seat elevations from known measurements and they used a boom lift to recreate the actual height and distance from the target, exact type of ammo and weapon with exactly the same scope, using as near to perfect replicas of human targets as possible. They proved several things on that scene that day: 1) It was entirely possible to hit the target in the precise amount of time that witnesses and sound recordings from the day indicated the timing of the shots in between. 2) People have said that with the bolt action Carcano, it was impossible to fire that quickly and maintain accuracy. That was proven wrong. The shooter that day in the demonstration stated that it was relatively easy and the weapon was extremely accurate. 3) Everyone that has said it was an impossible feet of marksmanship was proven wrong. 4) The single bullet theory was proven possible, right down to the elongated penetration hole that was left by the bullet that tumbled after passing through JFK’s back. Was almost exactly what was shown on the original drawings from Parkland Hospital medical staff. Do I believe that there was another shooter? I think that there was a lot of chaos and confusion that day. Do I think Oswald pulled the trigger? No. I think he was set up to take the fall. I have been to Dealy Plaza in Dallas. Been to the 6th floor in the TSBD building, stood behind the picket fence, walked to the overpass. A perfect place for a assassination. The distance from the grassy knoll? I could have thrown a rock from there and hit one of them in the Limo. The distance from the 6th floor to the Limo? I could have taken them all out with a BB gun. The thing is…in old films the distance was exaggerated somehow. But there in person? I’m not an expert marksman but, it would have been easy to pull off. The vehicle was moving very slowly and no one was expecting it. Chaos ensued. Easy to get away from back then. Not so much now. So, it probably was a conspiracy. Just not by Oswald. JFK had so many enemies. The Mafia for one, the Cuban’s, the Russians, the CIA and the military and God only knows how many nuts out there that were pissed at him for screwing Marilyn Monroe. If the secret hasn’t come out after all of these years, then it never will.
The problem with the theory that Oswald was set up, is what do you do with all the evidence against him? You can't just throw it away. People have theories with shooters all over the place, but there's zero evidence to support them. If Oswald was framed, he was a pretty willing participant! Everything he did leading up to the assassination and on the day point to his guilt. Things he said, lies he told, everything. I believe he acted completely alone based on evidence. I'm willing to listen to other theories but you have to have Oswald involved. These people who think he did nothing or somehow tries to prevent the assassination, are very silly.
@@paulchamberlain7780 Some of the evidence against him is just too convenient. I looked at the photo of him holding the rifle, with his pistol and a copy of a communist newspaper. It is laughable. The thing that stands out the most? The impossible angle that he is leaning at. No one could stand there without falling over. Then there is the background in the pictures. Identical. All taken with a particular camera that doesn’t have the resolution to pick up the print on the paper or keep the background in exactly the same position on each shot without a fixed position which Marina Oswald stated she held the camera, add to it the fact that the pictures showed up mysteriously, like two years later and were found in his belongings that had been searched countless times by investigators. So strange. The motorcycle cop that ran into the TSBD building states he was at the 2nd floor confronting Oswald in the break room no less than 5 minutes after the shots rang out. Totally calm. That would be difficult enough if he was on the 6th floor and just happened to walk down the steps for a coke, let alone having just shot JFK, stashed the rifle then ran down the stairs all without passing anyone who had just come down the same stairs. Remember the elevator was out of service that day. Then there are the signed affidavits from at least one investigator on the scene that swore that the rifle found was a Mauser not a Carcano. The only thing that seems to damn Oswald is the Officer Tippit shooting, but at least one witness says she saw the shooting itself and that it was not Oswald and that supposedly he used a revolver in the shooting but, they found shell casings on the scene from a semiautomatic. Too much confusion from those things for me to make a judgment that Lee was solely responsible. The evidence at the Warren Commission left out too many eyewitnesses and seemed to go only after trying to prove Oswald was the lone shooter.
The true story is that Chuck Norris went back in time to stop Oswald and stopped the bullet with his beard, but when JFK saw this, his head exploded in pure amazement.
The Carcano rounds that were used in the assassination were old surplus rounds that have a number of design quirks compared to modern FMJ 6.5mm. Basically that would be the most important difference between real life and the test.
I agree. Also for me there's another detail. If I'm not wrong, for a short period of time Italy wanted to switch from 6.5 carcano to a "7.something" because according to their data the 6.5 was too stable and didn't leave enough damages. If it's true that explains the close to nothing deformation of the original bullet.
No Carcano rounds were even fired that day. It was a decoy/distraction. The police did seize a Mauser from the 6th floor, but that was quickly hushed up.
Brandon, you’re not supposed to single load rounds into a Carcano. It can break the extractor and they’re almost impossible to replace because they were peened in place by hand. Just buy an en bloc, they’re like 4$ and they won’t break the gun.
I would have, but I didn’t have time for it to come in before we had to film. Honestly I’m shocked this was all able to come together in like 4 days lol
You can single load them just like an M95 by putting the round on top of the follower and then closing the bolt without manually pushing it in the chamber. It will feed just like if a clip was holding it in place. I've made a video demonstrating what I mean.
Johnson knew it was the government agency that killed Kennedy and he went along with it but he didn’t have a choice in the matter it was wealthy Powerful people behind the scene and the other central intelligence agencies that were involved in the crime and murder of president Kennedy. so Johnson was complicit in the killing but he wasn’t responsible for the fact he just kept his mouth shut because he didn’t want to get the same thing as Kennedy and he didn’t want to stay in government after his term as president probably because he was so disillusioned with how corrupt the government system was.
Just a thought, Brandon. When you do tests like this it is pretty common for the bullet to deflect left, right, or whatever. If you place some large pieces of cardboard or paper behind the water bottles or ballistic gel it could at least show you where the bullet veered off to.
A bullet deflected by 5 degrees is possible. A bullet deflected by the 120 degrees claimed for the magic bullet is impossible. If that were the case, the Mythbusters would have killed themselves many times over.
An uncle of mine hunted wild boar with a similar 6.5 mm Steyr-Mannlicher military carbine in the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia). They had to prepare the 6.5 mm bullets by drilling a hole in the blunt 'point'. (Make it effectively 'dum dum' ammo) Or else the 6.5 mm bullets would go straight through the wild pig without doing much harm and coming out like (almost) 'new'...
@@jackclark1994 only things I can think of are 1) they need it for shots where they want to shoot some kind of non-human object with live ammo (in a safe manner I would hope) or, 2) somebody brought it from outside because they wanted to shoot guns to pass the time. Neither possible answer is any excuse for the fact that Alec Baldwin killed someone because he was an idiot.
@@evanmeeden2222 This guy is using the absolute maximum amount of sarcasm, and you still don’t get that every part of it is a joke. There was an attempted assassination of Roosevelt, a pistol fired at close range while he was giving a speech. He had the ol’ Bible catching the bullet deal happen, a 50 page manuscript and his metal eyeglass case which absorbed most of the bullet’s velocity.
The milsurp carcano ammo avail at the time had an extra thick jacket on it, noted for not deforming as much as conventional rounds. A detail often omitted from assessments like this.
I'm not a Joe Rogan hater but I do hate it when he says things like that as if it's a 100% fact that there is no way that bullet hit anything, but he has no idea about the design of that bullet.
@@jonathandavis3312 true but im guessing a lotta people who have knowledge of guns and ballistics wouldnt even know about this specific ammo from this specific time period. I dont blame him on this one, but yeah it is pretty annoying when he does it
@@AsianCole I don't know Jack about guns other than some COD info and yet I knew this fact already. Don't make excuses for lazy people, if this guy wanted to do a realistic test he would already know these things and just ignored them to make a video to get views
My guess is that the first round took more damage because water doesn’t really compress under pressure, and the human skull has a lot more squishy bits (for lack of a scientific term)
Human tissue has a lot more friction while water has more drag. Bullets do not do well against drag. I think what he should’ve done is tested the bullet with ballistic gel. The bullets it stops are almost pristine
Mythbusters did an episode on shooting bullets into water. The higher velocity rounds didn’t make it far before being ripped apart. That being said, I think I’ve seen people use cardboard boxes filled with sand as a backstop to catch munition that doesn’t cause quite as much plastic deformation of the round.
Most "Magic Bullet" theories assume both JFK and Connely were at the same level and facing forward. If you look at the setup of the actual limousine, Connely's seat was about 6 inches lower than Kennedy's and Connely was in the process of turning around from talking to Kennedy. If you take these factors into consideration the shot was a straight shot.
Bullets do weird stuff man, there’s always been a handful of stories from wars. If I remember correctly, there were a few instances of musket balls bouncing off peoples skulls, people fighting in ww1 and 2 getting shot in the helmet by a sniper and going through their skulls but they lived, shotgun slugs bouncing off peoples heads in Vietnam. And a bunch of accounts of people doing extrodanary tasks after being shot multiple times. The video of the first Medal of Honor ever filmed comes to mind. Dude was shot like nine or ten times and fought for hours afterwards, may he Rest In Peace. But my point remains, Bullets do weird shit.
Yeah, in ww1 some dude at the battle of mons held the line against the axis as his team retreated, manning a browning for a while before being shot in the head, lived, got up, threw the gun in the river, lived as a pow for a bit
I noticed in the video of JFK being shot his head moves backwards not forward. If being shot from behind his head should move forward from the initial impact.
No it's not. They're not hiding anything except USSS techniques and OPSEC info. I've stood in the book depository window. A Cub Scout with a BB gun could have made that shot.
They hide behind the word "National Security" They can get away with anything, and don't have explain nothing! Because one of the most powerful words is "National Security" aka I plead the fifth
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 National Security after 60 years... Soviet Union gone... Castro gone... AND... I thought Oswald was a lone nut with no connections to anything. They are hiding something really bad. We all know it.
Those documents have to do with intelligence gathering (and names) that they don't want our "enemies" to know about , nothing sinister as it has already been PROVEN WITH EVIDENCE that Oswald did it, all by himself
Looks like the bullet from Joe’s post is a round nose, military surplus. I used to shoot a lot of 7mm Mauser surplus ammo with that type of bullet and I can corroborate that it doesn’t deform that much. At 200 yards will not deform even after traveling half a way through a deer, it will only get dented if it hits heavy bone.
Yeah but I mean come on now, you’re telling me that the magic bullet went through 2 human vertebrae, broke two ribs, shattered a human radius bone (one of the hardest bones in your body) and got lodged 3 inches deep in a human thigh, and just “fell out” on a hospital gurney with barely any deformation? Idk man. I understand that the original round is a round nose FMJ but I hardly believe that the thing comes out looking that pristine after breaking as many bones as it did. Plus if that’s the case why did the shot that killed Kennedy leave such a heavy amount of fragmentation while this bullet in particular was missing hardly any unless the round literally exploded in his head but FMJ rounds don’t do that or at least I’ve never heard of one that’s left such a mess. Through and through is kinda what they do so unless LHO was using two types of rounds in his rifle that day idk.
9:00 if you were able to slow it down enough you would be able to see the agent catch the bullet by the back right before it fully enters the second jug, put it in his pocket and run away
To test the 6.5 you need to use original surplus ammo. The bullet itself had a copper/nickel jacket whick is much harder than a copper jacket. The bullet also is exceptionally long giving it a high sectional density and a propensity for tumbling. At one point in my life I owned a model 38 in 6.5 Carcano. It was not super accurate but it did have exceptional penetration for what it was. I believe that the magic bullet really could have walked through two people without substantial distortion
Well as I'm sure you can tell by the video, for the purposes of the test it didnt matter a whole lot because despite the bullets Brandon used being comparatively inferior in terms of hardness and penetration, the bullet hardly deformed at all. Obviously, if it were a harder bullet with better penetration, it only stands to reason it would deform even less
I remember watching a video (can't remember the title) where they shot through a stack of wood blocks with the original ammo. It penetrated like 8 wood blocks and came out undeformed. Seeing that, I'm thoroughly convinced it could pass through a couple of human body parts without getting fucked up. I also like to thank Brandon for proving to all the ballistic illiterate, that no, the front of the head does NOT explode when shot from the front like so many people claim.
Thanks for watching guys! What are your thoughts about what really happened to JFK? I have my own thoughts, but I’m curious about yours 🧐.
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pew pew
His head just did that
The leftist would say his head exploded on its own.....
Let's go Brandon
Dude got blasted in the head. His brains all over the town
I’m just saying, we need more gun Mythbusters from you Brandon.
Nice pfp
@@thewalking4473 cheers mate
Yes we do
Maybe we could see Brandon, Kentucky buttlipstic, demolitionranch and garand thumb together doing mythbusters
MythGunners
I'm imagining the conversation with the store clerk:
"More water today sir?"
"Yeah, didn't expect the job to be this tough" as he hands the clerk some $ with a blood soaked hand and a wink.
😂😂😂
"There were no gunmen at all. Kennedy's head just did that. I call it the 'No Bullet Theory'."
He fucked the alien queen in New México, had to be put down before the eggs hatched
@@T-Jex Exactly. The alien king didn't want bastard spawn running around, threatening to take control of the galactic empire from rightful heirs. A cloaked UFO zapped everybody, including Kennedy, with a neutron beam. Alien operatives on scene in disguise then dropped bullet fragments and whole bullets to conceal the nature of the weapon used. LHO was the alien's fall guy, under direct alien control through a microscopic anal probe the government eventually found but were unwilling to disclose; this is why JB decided to keep data classified.
Actually the driver shot him and so did jackie. Also LBJ was on a distant roof with a sniper if needed duh
@@warpedweirdo finally the pieces all make sense!
"Kennedy was not used to his wife being annoying for so long and had a nervous melt down as his head just exploded from being next to his wife for so long"
On the day this was released, I had to do a presentation as a wax figure as a historical figure/famous person. We’d been preparing it for nearly 3 months in 7th grade (I’m now going into 11th on 2 weeks tomorrow) I chose JFK and my presentation just happened to be on the date of the 50th anniversary. At the end I turned around and had a laser pointed at the back of my neck. The teacher thought it was funny asf and have me 105 out of 100 (5 extra credit for the laser reason).
Ngl, that is hella creative and comedy gold. You sure as shit deserved those extra five points
Good job. Here's to looking at you, kid. 🎉
"Testing our prop gun..." And "Giving LBJ a job..." Almost had me spit out my lunch in the middle of the break room 🤣🤣
Brandon's best throw aways
And "demonotized Mythbusters" hahaha made me bust out laughing
Finding a condom in a fake head? Someone got skullfugged...
I think it was hot after all...
And a condom😭
4:05 "testing prop gun in 3...2...1" The dead pan humor of the gun community never ceases to amaze me. You sir, earned a sub.
Isn't that joke a bit... ghoulish?
well its true lol
And “giving LBJ a job in 3,2,1
@@CmH250 yeah that one got me
New sub here too
“Is that a condom, I don’t think that’s historically accurate.” “The water jug got absolutely buttfucked.” -Brandon Herrera
Best quotes ever
Also, "blew this jug ass-wide open". lol
What we do know is Poppy had his wet-team consisting of 3 shooters who ALL engaged the target all the while they "Setup" LHO by telling him he was "Hired" By FBI to "Protect" JFK... they did the same "Exact" thing to Paddock~! #FACT
The skussy
If Brandon was talking about Marylin Monroe then it was sorta accurate with the exception of using condoms. ;)
The condom in jfks skull would make sense.. all the man did was screw around.
First thing to notice is that the Carcano bullet did not blow up the skull like the actual bullet did. Why? Because Mr James Files who gave a very compelling interview narration of how he was the grassy knoll shooter used hollowed, mercury filled bullets that are designed to explode upon impact. Sadly, the autopsy never tested the brain for residue of different types of bullets, or they would have been able to prove or disprove the mercury bullet mystery. Also, this test shows how the entry wound was small, just like the FRONT entry wound on JFK and the exit wound was larger. Not as large as what was described by Dallas doctors as a huge rear exit wound, but still much larger than the entry wound.
The reason the doctors said the exit wound in the back of his head was huge is because the exit wound WAS huge at first. Kennedy was tampered with between bethesda naval hospital and dallas.
a) Parkland doctors never once turned the body over to look at the back of the head.
b) Kennedy is very clearly seen in Zapruder's film to suffer a massive exit wound at the temple consistent only with a shot from behind.
c) Autopsy shows the shots came from behind and you can see the Parkland doctors examining the photos on NOVA in 1988 and having no particular problem with them.
d) "Mr." James Files was in Chicago during the assassination and when confronted with evidence he tried to claim he was being confused with his own nonexistent twin brother.
NBC cancelled their planned TV show on this lying clown after taking a closer look at him.
@@aaronz7056I wonder who is paying you to authenticate the official account because your points are over simplified and do not take real world ballistics into account! With reference to the four points you made:- a) Parkland doctors were sworn to secrecy by the secret service and one doctor later spoke out and said the wounds referred to in the official report did not correspond to what he saw. b) In the Zapruder film Kennedys head jerks backward and Jacky Kennedy can clearly be seen retrieving part of Kennedy's skull from the bootlid of the car therefore debunking your "massive exit wound at the temple" assertion. c) No autopsy photographs have ever been released and since the doctors were bound by secrecy as per point a) , your point c) is invalid and can be ignored. d) Anyone who claims to know exactly what happened should be taken with a large degree of scepticism and is most probably either a lunatic or a planted distraction therefore to even mention him weakens your case. In short I do not claim to know what happened but here are some other points to bear in mind firstly to shoot from the book depository and be the lone gunman that killed Kennedy that the official report claims happened is difficult for a number of reasons, shooting from an elevated position sounds easy but often leads to inaccurate shot placement meaning a headshot on a moving target by a non expert is extremely unlikely, Secondly snipers hardly ever aim for headshots as the target is often missed and this by experts, Thirdly the distance from the book depository and the target and the round being used meant that since the bullet travels more slowly than todays sniper calibres which have a flatter trajectory and this means that the bullet would have dropped fractionally the shooter would have had to make allowance for this fact and that Oswald was not a proficient shooter, it would have made the shot even more difficult! The mere fact that the documents have been kept secret begs closer inspection to the facts. Two other coincidences which bear mentioning, after the assassination Lyndon B. Johnson changed many of Kennedy's policies with specific relevance to the war in Vietnam and when Richard Nixon was ousted from office he was replaced by Gerald Ford, an unelected bureaucrat who was part of the investigation into the assassination of JFK!
No, I just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying armchair detectives like you so paranoid they assume anybody not on board for this "conspiracy" idiocy must be "getting paid" by somebody.
a) Want to keep your coup top secret? No problem! Just go around threatening top surgeons at this major hospital (within minutes of the shooting, apparently) they'll all get their legs broke if they don't spend the rest of their lives lying about what happened and bending over backwards making themselves all accessories to treason.... LOL
Never mind those doctors spoke openly about the assassination from the time it happened, often to conspiracy authors, so you now full well that's B.S.
b) Kennedy is very clearly seen to suffer a massive exit wound exploding at the temple, the limo sped up abruptly, and Jackie picking up a piece of his head hardly negates that/
c) Plenty of photos were released.
d) The rest of your statement is full of hysterical rampant paranoia and wild speculation.
You're operating on the automatic assumption somebody had safely approached (or "threatened") scores of witnesses, police, FBI, Secret Service, military personnel, doctors, pathologists, x-ray technicians, ballistics experts, photographers, whole commissions, etc., and persuaded them all to obey illegal orders to commit heinous crimes and knock themselves out assisting some bloody coup.
No, I just see value in alerting people when they are being misled by lying crackpots so paranoid they assume anybody not on board for this "conspiracy" idiocy must be "getting paid to authenticate the official account." lol
Brandon: "I'm not sure how many water jugs this bullet will go through?"
*Matt from Demo wakes out of a dead sleep"
Matt: LEAVE YOUR GUESS IN THE COMMENTS BELOW
Omg I was thinking the same exact thing
My first thought was Matt knows lmao
What about the shape of the water jugs
i have no opinion on the matter, but i think it should be brought to your attention that water is *not* soft. liquids are uncompressible, meaning upon sudden impacts the volume cannot be displaced quickly enough, causing water to act as a tough solid for a split second after the impact. this is the reason why falling flat on water hurts. this effect is in part mitigated by objects with low surface area, such as a bullet, but i still think fleece or some sort of foam/fibers would make a better bullet preserver.
If the bullet keyholes (like it did in all his tests), they dont have the low surface area anymore, as we can see by the big ole dent on the side of it.
Name is sus but point is valid.
There’s a reason some people do hollow point tests on water jugs or bottles
@UCbR5oOjzMnLRtm7UNilgO1A i achieved first world when i was born in a hospital lol
No, you use water. That's what the FBI, ATF, etc use. You just don't put them in containers, because then... as you said, it's uncompressible for a moment, until the container is pierced.
"Get off there fly, that's not for you."
See Brandon does care about animals!!!! Not even a fly will be harmed in the making of his videos.
So wholesome, I love it!
I remember a video where grand thumb saw a bee on his target and aimed for it specifically...lmao
Y was there a condom tho
@@joshuaamado559 Well brandon feels grossed out by this and garand thumb tasted the fake blood in the dummy.... that's all you need to know lmao
@@codemy666 he's a touch sussy as the youthschilds would say
@@joshuaamado559 it's a bee😂😂
Hey bro , what you up to? “Ah , nothing. Just eating stuffing while watching someone simulate JFK’s assassination “
“Giving Lyndon B Johnson a job in 3. 2. 1.” And the “sorry Jackie” killed me lmao
He said sorry Johnny
He said sorry jack...
@@diegoperales6865 9:37 Johnny
@@Three_Sevens jerry
He said sorry Jimmy u guys are deaf
“Testing our prop gun..”
Ah, yes, as Mark Twain once probably said, “Humor is tragedy plus time.”
Never change, you beautiful bastard.
Let's Go Baldwin!!
@@calholli God bless you.
I didn’t even notice that joke lmao
Pretty sure the equation is "humor = time/tragedy" because a larger tragedy means significantly more time before it's funny, and a smaller tragedy is more acceptable to make jokes about sooner. Like 9/11 jokes are funny now but would have been taboo in the mid 00s, whereas JFK jokes are just now getting acceptable and still receive a bit of flack.
It also implies that a tragedy with no time is still funny. If it JUST happened, no one's laughing about it yet. Like Columbine jokes with "that one kid in a trench coat" but no Christchurch jokes.
"Well yeah, the original shot was from a much longer distance, but the barrel was also kinda sorta longer, so I vaguely guess this all works out. I think." Peak scientific method is what I call this.
Shorter barrel, kinda longer distance, how scientific does it need to be to amass millions of views, do you think?
@@ElementsMMA Not at all
and he is unfortunately wrong.
Distance matters... a lot
Also not sure why he couldnt find the bullet that didn't end up in the water bottle.
He can scour the ground or review the camera replay to get a good idea where it went to find it
wait what timestamp I may have missed it
I totally agree, shooting from almosit point blanc ain´t showing anything but how hard it is to hit something with this rifle.
7:19 Come on, Man! 🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂
The fact you got 6.5x52 Carcanno ammo itself is impressive lol.
PPU and (I forget the other brand. Precision something) is where it’s at for “extinct” WW2 cartridges. I have a lot of 6.5jap from them (6.5x50 semi rimmed)
@UCrMwcGSu7KtAc5dFvjwZVYQ oh I know, that's how I get my 6.5 carcano and 7.5 swiss. Well actually I have the military surplus 7.5 swiss. Still, I have been using PPU for years, problem is 6.5 carcano ppu can be rare some parts of the year and can cost over 4 bucks a bullet.
Its easier than 6.5 creedmoor.
That's nothing compared to 7.35 carcano
It's easier than .303 British
"I'm pretty sure that's a condom... that is not historically accurate..."
Marylin Monroe: "You're right.... John never used them."
You win!
Oh man, I am dying laughing after reading this. 10/10
Give her a golf clap.
...neither did Bobby
Oh fkn snap, son.
Is anyone else alarmed (but not surprised) by the fact that Brandon ran out of water jugs before he ran out of human head analogs?
Well he said water is expensive.😀
No, everyone wants head more than water
@@bitbrace you mean nobody wants a waterhead person?
@@bitbrace But I thought that's what everybody wanted, at least according to Al Snow.
What if Kennedy's head was a White Claw?
11:26 is so funny when he says " Now I'm soaked right know
I ment now I'm soaked
“Giving Lyndon B Johnson a Job” 💀💀 best line of the video. 😂
I take that back. “Don’t worry about him…you’re gonna do great” was even better 😂😂
"Today on demonetized myth busters" was a close second
I was actually just telling a friend about this, 6.5 carcano tends to have a thicker jacket compared to other calibers, and it's not a super high velocity round. Not saying there weren't shenanigans around the Kennedy assassination, but if any bullet would look pristine after passing through bone, that's a good contender.
I mean, we know he got shot in the head. It's perfectly reasonable to believe it was a 6.5 Carcano, as the official narrative goes. The main theorizing is about who did the shooting, and who supported it.
Yeah it looks like a 160gr round nose.
Not only the high sectional density of the 6.5
@@rjcoady21 because it was
@@ssholum I'm glad we are all finally past the alien phase
"That's not historically accurate."
Well no shit, JFK never used condoms.
That's funny...lmao...from Wyoming USA 🇺🇸 😄
Lmao
@@billallen4793 shut tf up - from California, USA
@@reheatedpizza7292 booo hoooooo............
Based
12:16 thanks brandon I'd of never figured out what was going on with that table without the breakdown 😂
“Giving Lyndon B Johnson a job in 3…”
Was probably the funniest thing I’ve heard in a long while for no reason
was just about to comment this lmaooo
Actually a promotion. LBJ already had a job.
@@achannel8142 I don’t care, I was laughing at what he said… not the historical aspect of it..
@@achannel8142 its not that serious. Lol but yeah mans did have a job. I Think we just think the comment was funny.
When I first saw the Zapruder film I remember thinking 'well this destroys everything they said because you could see the shots clearly coming from different directions because of the splatter coming out of his brain.' Then the History channel tried to come out and say 'well you don't really see what you think you see' and went through this whole cockamamy, bullcrap explanation on why we really don't see what we are seeing. And some people actually bought into it. I think in all honesty some people just don't want to believe the government was responsible for it.
DEMONETIZED MYTHBUSTERS 😂
Love your videos dude!
Yo jake just found you about a month ago. I like how thought out and articulate your videos are! Just watch the Dupont one. Keep keeping it real man!
You and Brandon are both my favorite TH-camrs
Somehow still monetized? I love your vids.
Somehow getting ads on it still.
We all know Brandon was just using the “experiment” as an excuse to shoot a fake head with an old rifle.
@Brandon Herrera....late to the party on THIS video.....but GREAT shot mate! This is a RAD video brother. 💪💯💯💪
Brandon. As a carcano owner for years. I must add you shot the wrong ammo and that makes a large difference.
The modern spritzer bullets are designed to tumble and the original loads were 160grain round nose which was known to zip through enemies in the wars and not cause much damage.
I agree, my ammo behaves the same. I have shot the PPU stuff and its a touch small in OD 0.264 and tumbles badly even before hitting the 75 yard target, plus the accuracy SUCKS BADLY. There was different barrel sizes used in the Model 38. Mine is the larger, 0.268. Hornady made some for the larger Carcano in OD of 0.2675, this stuff shoots well in my gun, just as good as the projectiles I have pulled from some vintage 0.268 I have found. Also, the pulled vintage projectiles seem to have a heavier jacket compared to the PPU after finding the rounds in the safety barrier of earth I have. The vintage rounds are always hardly damaged VS the slightly/moderate more deformed tumbling PPU which could explain a lot. Never thought about taking photos of them.
Anyhow, that's the short story on the Carcano story, there is much more to it so i put it in a condensed version.
Hi 👋
not a carcano owner but i was going to make a comment like this
i was thinking the same cause i knew this
The way he shot that i think was at the range for uncompromised bullet ballistic? Lol also the bullet was freshly hot and hit water there are a million factors that may or may not play and as you said modern ammo, and thinking about it i theorized exactly that bullet outcome give or take a little ojeeze look at md ramble
The fact that you laughed at telling the fly it isn't for him confirms you have dad level comedy. And I love it.
I think this is why I love these guys so much
I use only .22 for flies...
“Yeah, don’t worry about him. Pat pat”
LMAO!
Great work Brandon!
Also, “ making LBJ president in 3…2…1”
Priceless.
"testing our PROP gun in 3, 2, 1"
had me dying a little too much
You aren’t the only one who died
Brandons "testing our PROP gun in 3, 2, 1" was perfectly accurate, no?
The rifle that he was holding was his PROPerty i think. Property of the studio/Brandon/who-ever-lent-Brandond-the-rifle :D
@@IcecalGamer it was a reference to the „prop“ gun Alec Baldwin accidentally killed someone with on the set of his movie.
came here looking for this comment
Giving Lyndon b Johnson a job in 3 2 1 had me dying
“Giving LBJ a job” right before the shot is wild 🤣🤣🤣
that was some funny shit bro haha 🤣🤣🤣
Tasteless and immature.
@@jimmypea2207🤓
@@jimmypea2207 🤓
@@jimmypea2207 Lyndon Johnson openly stated that it was worth it for him to give up Senate Majority Leader for Vice President, because VPs had a 1 in 4 chance of becoming President when the sitting President died. He was also facing a huge series of scandals based on corrupt conduct in Texas.
"Giving Lyndon B. Johnson a job in 3, 2, 1..."
That had me rolling laughing more than it probably should have. I do work in the medical field, though, and you have to have at least a mildly dark sense of humor to be in this line of work.
Too funny XD
I mean to be fair he did have a job before, just a different one. Still hilarious tho
Executive Order 11110
i too was cracking up
After watching this I now believe JFK wasn't hit with this round!
I'm watching from 2yrs into the future. If you re-watch the video at the time of impact, you can see a black spot that gives a trajectory. They're all different . The 1st goes down the 2nd, goes up to the right, and the third, you have.
"Giving Lyndon B Johnson a job in 3,2,1" I laughed a dark laugh at that one.
He wasn't unemployed prior. It's more of a promotion.
Dude is the only person to be a congressman, senator, governor and president.
Made respect for LbJ, even if he whipped his dick out to the press constantly
LBJ died a very rich man.
@@jamesblevins7115
What ? What good is that if he's dead ? 🤣
Brandon: "Testing our prop gun.."
Me: "I understood that reference"
Only dawned on me after i read this comment. That's a certified lol from me.
In the uk and even I understood 🤣
Anyone plan on seeing the movie "Dust"? Just asking...
@@chrispatriot wasn’t it called “Rust”? The only “Dust” movie I know of is an early 2000’s western
@@stormierbody8419 you are correct. My bad.. :)
WWII surplus ammo (as used by Oswald) used bullet jackets that were MUCH thicker than modern bullets. Further, the cores were harder. Modern cores are nearly pure lead. Not so in WWII.
Yeah I'm surprised by these results, and with your information, that just kind of confirms the official story a bit more in my mind.
Bro I don’t care what it’s made of, a projectile moving at 2,000+ feet per second, the round will be deformed even if it just hits human flesh
@@balldude8573 That is not actually how terminal ballistics work. I collect spent bullets and melt them down. I end up with buckets of bullet jackets. Some shredded, some pristine, even after hitting the berm filled with sand, rocks, and other bullets. The Carcano bullet will pass straight through almost anything soft, as evidenced by about 1,000 previous tests. Your intuition may be from thin-jacketed modern bullets and hollow points, but it does not pass muster here.
@@RyeOnHam Then why was the round deformed after shooting through water jugs?
@@balldude8573 Because it's a modern Carcano bullet.
Giving Jonson a job is crazy 😂😂 8:51
“Giving Lyndon B. Johnson a job in 3.2.1” 😂😂😂 this is the first video of yours I’ve watched and instantly subbed
OMG I cracked up
Honestly, this is about the most fun you can have watching a Trainwreck of mishaps and just pure bizarre bullet paths. I enjoyed this thoroughly, and I'm sure Joe would be proud of your efforts!
The only thing that I see that could be different (not because I know) but I shot a deer close and found a bunch of bullet fragments and asked a gunsmith why I found so many fragments. He said “how far was it when you shot it”and I said “30 yds”. He said “at that close of a distance the bullet is still so hot it fragments apart” (not full metal jackets). I wonder if you shot it farther away if it would have even less bullet “damage”
Like the real case it took longer then we thought an just have more questions then awnsures ...... would love to know befor I go
*Joe Mama*
@@Yeetuz.Deletuz hmm yes very interesting information
I think you said it best: "bullets do weird stuff"
You could probably fire a thousand 6.5 carcano rounds at a thousand dummy heads and never really get the same result as the photographed bullet.
@LabRat Knatz Absolutely true, hopefully someday someone will model this type of thing and get to the bottom of it. One could write a whole masters thesis on terminal ballistics
But factually, a bullet going fast enough to do that amount of damage will always be decimated.
@@the2slice sounds like a job for fluid multy body symulation. As in Armour and projectiles simulation
The photographed bullet didn't go through a head. And it is being shown from the least-deformed angle in the shot all the conspiracy theorists use, from other angles you can see more deformation. Just like the bent round Brandon has, rotate it to the right angle and it seems less deformed.
Bro had to make it look like that😂😂😂😂 3:17
recommendation for the future: you can put the bullet through the water jugs with less deformation if you open the lids, that gives the water some place to displace to and while it will probably take more water to slow down, it will also allow the bullet to retain its shape better.
Great idea
@@BrandonHerrera or you could shoot straight into a 50 gal barrel like you're supposed to?
@@m4rvinmartian A ballistics tank, that was definitely my thought as well.
The simplest option is to use large transparent plastic bags filled with water.
Pros - Cheap. Minimum shipping weight. With a bit of luck and duct tape, some bags can be reused.
Cons - Requires a tap with water and a hose or the nearest body of water / stream (if you are not a fan of outdoor bucket exercise - also a pump and a hose). You will have to come up with a way to keep the bags from falling / crushing (ingenious use of ropes, tent poles, dead wood, planks, stones, tires, obscene language).
@@BrandonHerrera Or ask a neighbor if you can "borrow" their swimming pool. ;)
"Testing out prop gun" made me laugh harder than it should have.
Right? That was kind of savage!
Well deserved Savagery!
Wow that just sank in... 😳
Why i don't get it
@@rauljrlara9994 Two words: Alec Baldwin…
A car once charged through our 3 hmmwv convoy in our sector in Baghdad. Three different gun truck lit him up with. Three different 240 gunners let off close to 100 rounds from different angles. The guy got out after the engine blew and didn’t have a scratch on him. Not one freaking scratch. And the car was Swiss cheese. Terminal ballistics make no sense sometimes.
That's crazy. I believe you, but that's crazy.
🤣 how? He must’ve prayed hard that morning
You need new recruits
Probably were stormtroopers
Whats a hmmwv??
I think it’d be a great idea to put down some white tarps under the ol’ table to help the bullet stand out if it stays within a close distance. Kick*as vid B, keep ‘em coming. 🤙🏻🇺🇸
I love how Brandon essentially celebrated the 58th anniversary of JFK's assassination by literally recreating it
Lol hey, how many modern holidays or historical anniversaries go all out with recreating it’s origin? 🤷🏻♂️
If you’re gonna do something, do it right 😆
Is shooting water bottles from 10 feet away "literally recreating" it? I don't think so.
@@MikeSchmidt969 why are you mad
@@strannielson5342 how is that being mad?
@@jasonbelcho8609 everyone is so mad that this wasn’t an exact replication, so mad. Mad times bro
“Giving LBJ a job”. My God, that’s excellent 😂😂
I was looking for this comment lmao
Rogan giving BJJ Jobs is how my brain read this. Need sleep.
I died laughing
I used to live near an old WWII era officers target range, we used to go as kids to dig out the bullets from the dirt bank there. They were mostly .38 sidearm bullets, we would collect the undeformed ones but there were also some rifle bullets that were always bent or broken.
Wait, you collected lead slugs? Hope you didn’t eat any.
@@godwantsplastic your first thought is that when someone finds a bullet or casing.... he's going to eat it??? 🤣
@@bezumsteeltjuh I’m guessing you ate one or two…. Kids play with stuff and then pick their noses and stick their fingers in their mouths.
@@godwantsplastic I wasn't dumb enough to do that as a kid....
I think.
Cool
JFK double crosses the Mob......Carcano rifle; a message in itself.
Pulls condom out of head: "this is not historically accurate" 😂
kenedy was a codom
9:23
For jfk, yeah probably not accurate
@@lonesurvivalist3147 That's the condom he used with Marylin Monroe.
as many women as he was banging it probably is accurate..
Brandon: "that's about as close as you can get to just shooting water'
Some random pool: am I a joke to you 🥲
Yeah. That was my thought.
Why not just some ballistics gel? Did he set out to sabotage his own experiment? And wait, was the point to prove the bullet that hit Kennedy would look different from one that didn't?
@@FilmFlam-8008 Mine too.
As amazing as it sounds, shooting into the pool would probably destroy the bullet. Surface tension at very high speeds is a huge force. In bottles bullet goes through plastic straight into the water, skipping surface tension.
What happens to the .50 bullet shot at the pool was verified by Mythbusters: th-cam.com/video/yvSTuLIjRm8/w-d-xo.html
@@FatDave2112 he was not showing any points he just did an test for an experiment and asked what others think about it.
The countdown of giving Lyndon B Johnson a job KILLED me. Not as much as JFK, but still. 😂😂
EVERYONE KNOWS it was Poppy WHO's Wet Team took out JFK and they Did the SAME Thing to Pollack using him as the "FAL-GUY"
Nah 💀💀
Not only gave LBJ the presidency then he gave Hoover a lifetime appointment then escalated Vietnam making $$$$$$$ for Ladybird Johnson’s family who was selling supplies to the Army Corps of Engineers. Nothing to see here at all folks.
😂😂😂😂
LBJ was a nasty thug from a very rough upbringing that includes the murder of his own sister... Ordered by him!
This gun sounds perfectly like the witnesses stated:"...some firecrackers going off..." lol.
I'm hardly an expert, but as I understand, water is not particularly soft. The surface tension results in something roughly as hard as concrete which can cause a pretty significant amount of damage to a projectile, especially one travelling that fast. As Paul Harrell said, "Water is an almost perfect medium for projectile expansion." A quick google search shows that a large cardboard box filled with rubber landscaping mulch provides an excellent medium for catching bullets without causing excess damage to them.
I fire hollowpoint bullets into water jugs when I'm testing my hand loading recipes to check for over or under expansion.
(I usually use one-gallon milk jugs because the plastic is pretty thin. Through one jug and into my own new-and-improved high-tech fleece bullet stop.)
Mythbuster did an episode on bullets fired into water
Police fire bullets into water tanks to check the forensics of the bullet and when they pull it out its completely unharmed. Ive seen it in person. It slows it down but does not deform the bullet at all.
@@joshsmith-uy5iw I'd like to test that with my calipers. I'm not saying you're wrong, of course.
I'd just like to fire something like a longish rifle round at high velocity into their collection tank and see if it deformed it or if it truly is unchanged.
@@joshsmith-uy5iw it just really depends on the bullet I think. I’m pretty sure most guns used in crime are pistols firing fmj ammo. Ive seen hollow points (I’m sure not all do) expand in water
The rounds used here had Boat Tail Spitzer bullets the ones from LHO's rifle were round nose FMJ.
Boat tail Spitzer bullet vs round nose might make a difference. Spitzer bullets tumble and deflect easier. The taper of the bullet makes it weaker than the straight walled round nosed FMJ as the lead in the rear has less to push against ahead of it. Nevertheless what i think would be most interesting and impactful would be the amount of antimony in the lead of the original bullet. Higher antimony levels would make the lead harder to deform. It's a theory, a Projectile theory. Thanks for watching
Was going to comment the same thing Funny the Italians kept using the old design well into ww2 when most countries went the Spitzer's before or during ww1
I understood that reference in the end
The Italians did a lot of things wrong when it came to WW2.
@@joseramirez9599 being in it for starters
Paul Harrell..? Is that you? But na seriously, I was looking for an explanation as to the differences in the rounds. The 'spitzer' that was shown almost looked like it was made out of brass to my untrained eye.
Giving Johnson a job may be one of the funniest dark humor comments I've ever heard!
would have been more on point if he'd mentioned Prescott and George H. W. Bush ;)
I was laughing so hard when he said that😂
Can you pls explain the joke
@@GloomBetter He became next president after JFK
More of a promotion
ALWAYS AMAZING TOPICS AND VIDEOS. GREAT JOB BRANDON...IM IN ONTARIO CANADA
"What did this test do to impact your thoughts?"
Well, I think JFK's thoughts got impacted the most.
True
Savage
Wonder what the last thing was that went through his head.... Besides the bullet.
My mind got blown just like JFKs'
He didn't have a thought left in his head! 😉
You made another very significant discovery: bullets that hit JFK's skull are very hard to find afterwards.
And the diameter of the hole in the skull doesn't match the bullet🤔
@@NordPrecision what the hell could you possibly be suggesting?
@@NordPrecisionhave you ever shot anything😂
l'm certain of one thing, untiI those documents are reIeased, without heavy redaction, we won't know the truth. AIways interesting videos here though and l appreciate the humor in these times we Iive in.
@@gradyjones7017 The diameter is more similar to the 5.56 bullet, which the secret service was using.
I love the ‘technical terminology’ used in the video. Wish more videos were like this
This shot has been tested over the years, again and again.
One demonstration that I recall a while back, actually set up an exact replica of the position of JFK in relation to that of Conally in terms of distance apart and seat elevations from known measurements and they used a boom lift to recreate the actual height and distance from the target, exact type of ammo and weapon with exactly the same scope, using as near to perfect replicas of human targets as possible.
They proved several things on that scene that day:
1) It was entirely possible to hit the target in the precise amount of time that witnesses and sound recordings from the day indicated the timing of the shots in between.
2) People have said that with the bolt action Carcano, it was impossible to fire that quickly and maintain accuracy. That was proven wrong. The shooter that day in the demonstration stated that it was relatively easy and the weapon was extremely accurate.
3) Everyone that has said it was an impossible feet of marksmanship was proven wrong.
4) The single bullet theory was proven possible, right down to the elongated penetration hole that was left by the bullet that tumbled after passing through JFK’s back. Was almost exactly what was shown on the original drawings from Parkland Hospital medical staff.
Do I believe that there was another shooter? I think that there was a lot of chaos and confusion that day.
Do I think Oswald pulled the trigger? No. I think he was set up to take the fall.
I have been to Dealy Plaza in Dallas. Been to the 6th floor in the TSBD building, stood behind the picket fence, walked to the overpass. A perfect place for a assassination. The distance from the grassy knoll? I could have thrown a rock from there and hit one of them in the Limo. The distance from the 6th floor to the Limo? I could have taken them all out with a BB gun. The thing is…in old films the distance was exaggerated somehow. But there in person? I’m not an expert marksman but, it would have been easy to pull off. The vehicle was moving very slowly and no one was expecting it. Chaos ensued. Easy to get away from back then. Not so much now. So, it probably was a conspiracy. Just not by Oswald.
JFK had so many enemies. The Mafia for one, the Cuban’s, the Russians, the CIA and the military and God only knows how many nuts out there that were pissed at him for screwing Marilyn Monroe. If the secret hasn’t come out after all of these years, then it never will.
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1-4 you're saying the same thing over and over again with different words
I ain’t reading all that but totally agreed
The problem with the theory that Oswald was set up, is what do you do with all the evidence against him? You can't just throw it away. People have theories with shooters all over the place, but there's zero evidence to support them. If Oswald was framed, he was a pretty willing participant! Everything he did leading up to the assassination and on the day point to his guilt. Things he said, lies he told, everything. I believe he acted completely alone based on evidence. I'm willing to listen to other theories but you have to have Oswald involved. These people who think he did nothing or somehow tries to prevent the assassination, are very silly.
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Some of the evidence against him is just too convenient. I looked at the photo of him holding the rifle, with his pistol and a copy of a communist newspaper. It is laughable. The thing that stands out the most? The impossible angle that he is leaning at. No one could stand there without falling over. Then there is the background in the pictures. Identical. All taken with a particular camera that doesn’t have the resolution to pick up the print on the paper or keep the background in exactly the same position on each shot without a fixed position which Marina Oswald stated she held the camera, add to it the fact that the pictures showed up mysteriously, like two years later and were found in his belongings that had been searched countless times by investigators. So strange.
The motorcycle cop that ran into the TSBD building states he was at the 2nd floor confronting Oswald in the break room no less than 5 minutes after the shots rang out. Totally calm. That would be difficult enough if he was on the 6th floor and just happened to walk down the steps for a coke, let alone having just shot JFK, stashed the rifle then ran down the stairs all without passing anyone who had just come down the same stairs. Remember the elevator was out of service that day.
Then there are the signed affidavits from at least one investigator on the scene that swore that the rifle found was a Mauser not a Carcano.
The only thing that seems to damn Oswald is the Officer Tippit shooting, but at least one witness says she saw the shooting itself and that it was not Oswald and that supposedly he used a revolver in the shooting but, they found shell casings on the scene from a semiautomatic.
Too much confusion from those things for me to make a judgment that Lee was solely responsible.
The evidence at the Warren Commission left out too many eyewitnesses and seemed to go only after trying to prove Oswald was the lone shooter.
"I'm pretty sure that's a condom....
That's not historically accurate." absolutely killed me
Maybe that's why the files weren't released....? Because it's actually accurate....?
JFK was a Catholic, so nope, no condom. 😇😇😇
I mean JFK is well known for sleeping around. Who knows.
@@awesomechainsaw yeah, but no condoms, lol!
The true story is that Chuck Norris went back in time to stop Oswald and stopped the bullet with his beard, but when JFK saw this, his head exploded in pure amazement.
Yup sounds about right to me
Awful. Good job
facts
Dat da true true.
Just goes to prove, you can't change history.
The Carcano rounds that were used in the assassination were old surplus rounds that have a number of design quirks compared to modern FMJ 6.5mm. Basically that would be the most important difference between real life and the test.
I agree. Also for me there's another detail. If I'm not wrong, for a short period of time Italy wanted to switch from 6.5 carcano to a "7.something" because according to their data the 6.5 was too stable and didn't leave enough damages. If it's true that explains the close to nothing deformation of the original bullet.
Nerds
No Carcano rounds were even fired that day. It was a decoy/distraction. The police did seize a Mauser from the 6th floor, but that was quickly hushed up.
@@3canctheayr Soooo...Evidence of the cover up?
Based on the image of the bullet shown and what I know of the Italian military the surplus round used would have been a bottlenose 6.5mm round
the killing shot came from the front..as he back of kennedy's head was blown in the rear. as seen in the film
Brandon, you’re not supposed to single load rounds into a Carcano. It can break the extractor and they’re almost impossible to replace because they were peened in place by hand. Just buy an en bloc, they’re like 4$ and they won’t break the gun.
I would have, but I didn’t have time for it to come in before we had to film. Honestly I’m shocked this was all able to come together in like 4 days lol
@@BrandonHerrera why haven't you set up an inground pool to shoot at yet?
You can single load them just like an M95 by putting the round on top of the follower and then closing the bolt without manually pushing it in the chamber. It will feed just like if a clip was holding it in place. I've made a video demonstrating what I mean.
@@BrandonHerrera Thanks for the effort!
Oh snap! Where do we get Carcano clips? Link, please and thank you!
Glad to know you’re a “mostly full” person. This was a “mostly peaceful” demonstration. Good video.
“Fiery but mostly peaceful…”
They mostly come at night, mostly
I wonder if the comments are mostly this stupid?
@@granddaddy_funk mostly just some, mostly
This would be a great time to have Paul Harrell’s new and improved high-tech fleece bullet-stop
Why arent ya a youtuber you have a custom profile pic
@@lifeononeweel3008 why do u care.
@@MrHobj34 beckause i can and i was interested
@@lifeononeweel3008 I should start one. I love shooting and could do some fun ammo testing
@@matthewkovacs2442 Yeee
The magic bullett as believable as this episode being magic bro.
Don’t take this out of context but I want Brandon to do more assassinasions
I'm taking it out of context umm see you in about 4 days hope you like tear gas
@@jeremypeoples468 T minus 48 hours
@@rhabeldibabeldi6812 yeah he's gonna get good this time might brun his house down
@@jeremypeoples468 sooo, any assassinations around here today?
@@rhabeldibabeldi6812 already did we took out their dog
“Giving Lyndon B. Johnson a job.” Got me dead. 😭😂
Johnson knew it was the government agency that killed Kennedy and he went along with it but he didn’t have a choice in the matter it was wealthy Powerful people behind the scene and the other central intelligence agencies that were involved in the crime and murder of president Kennedy. so Johnson was complicit in the killing but he wasn’t responsible for the fact he just kept his mouth shut because he didn’t want to get the same thing as Kennedy and he didn’t want to stay in government after his term as president probably because he was so disillusioned with how corrupt the government system was.
LoL woke my wife laughing so much 😅
just like that 6.5 carcono did to JFK
That wasn't funny.
@@torliebenfels5618 yea it was
Just a thought, Brandon. When you do tests like this it is pretty common for the bullet to deflect left, right, or whatever. If you place some large pieces of cardboard or paper behind the water bottles or ballistic gel it could at least show you where the bullet veered off to.
He I a gun nut... you can't expect someone like that to have an IQ above say 65. Gun nuts are as dumb as people come.
A bullet deflected by 5 degrees is possible. A bullet deflected by the 120 degrees claimed for the magic bullet is impossible. If that were the case, the Mythbusters would have killed themselves many times over.
9:23 ‘I am pretty sure that’s a condom’ LMAO
An uncle of mine hunted wild boar with a similar 6.5 mm Steyr-Mannlicher military carbine in the Dutch East Indies (now Indonesia).
They had to prepare the 6.5 mm bullets by drilling a hole in the blunt 'point'. (Make it effectively 'dum dum' ammo)
Or else the 6.5 mm bullets would go straight through the wild pig without doing much harm and coming out like (almost) 'new'...
Very interesting!
Thats super interesting, make normal bullets into a fragmentation ones, cheap and brilliant
And that’s how hollow points were born
Is hollow point much expensive than regular bullets?
@@utsukushiidesu3966 Quite a bit more .
As once Jaime said:
“Mythbusters - we blow them up”… I’m glad that Brandon follows these rules.
That subtle "prop gun" dig will never get old.
my question is, why the FUCK were there even live ammunition on set????!!!!
@@jackclark1994 only things I can think of are 1) they need it for shots where they want to shoot some kind of non-human object with live ammo (in a safe manner I would hope) or, 2) somebody brought it from outside because they wanted to shoot guns to pass the time.
Neither possible answer is any excuse for the fact that Alec Baldwin killed someone because he was an idiot.
@@jackclark1994 … are you serious?
@@striker8961 he’s talking about the Alec Baldwin shooting😂
@@jackclark1994 gun from home that wasnt checked? (Just my theory)
8:55 bro that was more brutal then I imagined omg
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The bullet was obviously the one that shot Roosevelt, his manliness was able to deflect the bullet without damaging it
JFK....
@@evanmeeden2222 You didn't get the joke.
@@evanmeeden2222 This guy is using the absolute maximum amount of sarcasm, and you still don’t get that every part of it is a joke. There was an attempted assassination of Roosevelt, a pistol fired at close range while he was giving a speech. He had the ol’ Bible catching the bullet deal happen, a 50 page manuscript and his metal eyeglass case which absorbed most of the bullet’s velocity.
Into the future
Roosevelt’s manliness was second only to the love of his own voice because he had a prepared 90 minute speech that the bullet had to struggle through.
If Brandon comes up missing we all know why, be careful Brandon!
For real, wasting all that water during these times! I'm about to break some legs!
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The milsurp carcano ammo avail at the time had an extra thick jacket on it, noted for not deforming as much as conventional rounds. A detail often omitted from assessments like this.
This.
IIRC, it also had a rounder nose so less tumbling
I'm not a Joe Rogan hater but I do hate it when he says things like that as if it's a 100% fact that there is no way that bullet hit anything, but he has no idea about the design of that bullet.
@@jonathandavis3312 true but im guessing a lotta people who have knowledge of guns and ballistics wouldnt even know about this specific ammo from this specific time period. I dont blame him on this one, but yeah it is pretty annoying when he does it
@@AsianCole I don't know Jack about guns other than some COD info and yet I knew this fact already. Don't make excuses for lazy people, if this guy wanted to do a realistic test he would already know these things and just ignored them to make a video to get views
9:21 had me dying 😂😂😂
Brandon is worried about the price of water and I'm like "each of those rounds are like $1.50!!"
The dumbo could have easily used some junk tap water or used sink water or bathtub water or swamp water or rain water too.
@@jason200912 I was thinking the same thing. He just needed some buckets lol
Yes but bullets don't fall from the sky (naturally)
@@theoriginalemim they do if you live in Texas
@@jason200912 was thinking some flex tape and water from the tap.
FACT: Brandon Herrera has never denied working as an assassin for alleged time traveller and former president, Lyndon B. Johnson
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@Miles Doyle I'm an atheist
My guess is that the first round took more damage because water doesn’t really compress under pressure, and the human skull has a lot more squishy bits (for lack of a scientific term)
Human tissue has a lot more friction while water has more drag. Bullets do not do well against drag. I think what he should’ve done is tested the bullet with ballistic gel. The bullets it stops are almost pristine
I absolutely disagree!!!
Squishy bits is the perfect scientific term.
Squishy lol
Mythbusters did an episode on shooting bullets into water. The higher velocity rounds didn’t make it far before being ripped apart.
That being said, I think I’ve seen people use cardboard boxes filled with sand as a backstop to catch munition that doesn’t cause quite as much plastic deformation of the round.
@@snakevenom4954 Exactly what I was thinking. Human skull has cavities and brain tissue is less dense than water.
The zombie head that took a second shot looked like Red Skull from the Captain America comics 🤣
Most "Magic Bullet" theories assume both JFK and Connely were at the same level and facing forward. If you look at the setup of the actual limousine, Connely's seat was about 6 inches lower than Kennedy's and Connely was in the process of turning around from talking to Kennedy. If you take these factors into consideration the shot was a straight shot.
This is correct.
Someone recreated the shot using the proper set up maybe ten years ago. I don’t recall what show it was on but it’s out there.
Thank you!
I was going to point that out. In addition to the height offset, wasn't Connely's seat a few more inches inboard than Kennedy's seat?
Yes... lets also not take into consideration that JFK got dommed thanks to one of the Secret Service agents NDing his M16 right behind the president
@@Johan_the_Marshal hey someone else read that article
Considering JFK's history, finding a condom in the head might actually be historically accurate
Straight for the jugular on a dead man
Too soon. Too soon.
If the contents of any condom, ticker, studded or ribbed for his or her pleasure, are that colour, I'd be seeing a doctor....
@@carrisasteveinnes1596 OH! I didn’t know that………..
That's any leader in history and, all the women always fight over the leader
Bullets do weird stuff man, there’s always been a handful of stories from wars. If I remember correctly, there were a few instances of musket balls bouncing off peoples skulls, people fighting in ww1 and 2 getting shot in the helmet by a sniper and going through their skulls but they lived, shotgun slugs bouncing off peoples heads in Vietnam. And a bunch of accounts of people doing extrodanary tasks after being shot multiple times. The video of the first Medal of Honor ever filmed comes to mind. Dude was shot like nine or ten times and fought for hours afterwards, may he Rest In Peace. But my point remains, Bullets do weird shit.
There have even been people jacked up meth out their ass shot 20 times still sprinting forward with a knife like it's none more than a mere scratch
A kid in my battery, Castro was shot through the kevlar and head near the green zone in Baghdad. He survived and is married with children now.
Yeah, in ww1 some dude at the battle of mons held the line against the axis as his team retreated, manning a browning for a while before being shot in the head, lived, got up, threw the gun in the river, lived as a pow for a bit
@I was a corpsman and saw quite a few gunshot wounds and I can tell you bullets do funny things when they strike flesh and bones
Yes. My great grandfather got shot in the eye in ww1 over a long range by a sniper. In a bizarre twist of events, the bullet bounced off of his skull.
I noticed in the video of JFK being shot his head moves backwards not forward. If being shot from behind his head should move forward from the initial impact.
JFK's head was thrust forward the instant he was hit.
The fact they still won't release the documents after 60 years says that there are things they still don't want us to know.
It's a disgrace.
No it's not. They're not hiding anything except USSS techniques and OPSEC info. I've stood in the book depository window. A Cub Scout with a BB gun could have made that shot.
They hide behind the word "National Security" They can get away with anything, and don't have explain nothing! Because one of the most powerful words is "National Security" aka I plead the fifth
@@brandondetroitfanmichaels4325 National Security after 60 years... Soviet Union gone... Castro gone... AND... I thought Oswald was a lone nut with no connections to anything.
They are hiding something really bad.
We all know it.
Those documents have to do with intelligence gathering (and names) that they don't want our "enemies" to know about , nothing sinister as it has already been PROVEN WITH EVIDENCE that Oswald did it, all by himself
Truly an awful thing. The Spider-Man of The Ottoman Empire cannot comprehend what an injustice this is…
Looks like the bullet from Joe’s post is a round nose, military surplus. I used to shoot a lot of 7mm Mauser surplus ammo with that type of bullet and I can corroborate that it doesn’t deform that much. At 200 yards will not deform even after traveling half a way through a deer, it will only get dented if it hits heavy bone.
I was going to make the same comment. It's not the same projectile, so the test is just theatre. The construction of the bullets is not the same.
The video, together with your experiences, does lend credibility to that photo and the claim of the bullet that hit JFK.
Yeah but I mean come on now, you’re telling me that the magic bullet went through 2 human vertebrae, broke two ribs, shattered a human radius bone (one of the hardest bones in your body) and got lodged 3 inches deep in a human thigh, and just “fell out” on a hospital gurney with barely any deformation? Idk man. I understand that the original round is a round nose FMJ but I hardly believe that the thing comes out looking that pristine after breaking as many bones as it did. Plus if that’s the case why did the shot that killed Kennedy leave such a heavy amount of fragmentation while this bullet in particular was missing hardly any unless the round literally exploded in his head but FMJ rounds don’t do that or at least I’ve never heard of one that’s left such a mess. Through and through is kinda what they do so unless LHO was using two types of rounds in his rifle that day idk.
Imma buy you a 55g drum
He had two in the beginning of the video
Of lube
@@starkindustries26 Giggidy.
I LOVE THIS! But I will say that usually tanks of water or deep swimming pools are usually used for this.
9:00 if you were able to slow it down enough you would be able to see the agent catch the bullet by the back right before it fully enters the second jug, put it in his pocket and run away
To test the 6.5 you need to use original surplus ammo. The bullet itself had a copper/nickel jacket whick is much harder than a copper jacket. The bullet also is exceptionally long giving it a high sectional density and a propensity for tumbling. At one point in my life I owned a model 38 in 6.5 Carcano. It was not super accurate but it did have exceptional penetration for what it was. I believe that the magic bullet really could have walked through two people without substantial distortion
Even the "expanding" 160grn 6.5 carcano rounds from hornady have absurd penetration, i shot 6 1 gallon jugs in a line and it didnt expand or stop
Interesting how you can say it's a long tumbler and it penetrates deep.
Well as I'm sure you can tell by the video, for the purposes of the test it didnt matter a whole lot because despite the bullets Brandon used being comparatively inferior in terms of hardness and penetration, the bullet hardly deformed at all. Obviously, if it were a harder bullet with better penetration, it only stands to reason it would deform even less
I remember watching a video (can't remember the title) where they shot through a stack of wood blocks with the original ammo. It penetrated like 8 wood blocks and came out undeformed. Seeing that, I'm thoroughly convinced it could pass through a couple of human body parts without getting fucked up. I also like to thank Brandon for proving to all the ballistic illiterate, that no, the front of the head does NOT explode when shot from the front like so many people claim.
@@ssjbread2803 Except that it would be going through metal, leather, bone, & flesh instead of plastic, jelly, and water contained in thinner plastic.
Brandon: Orders ballistic skull
Also Brandon: Not sure how to catch a bullet so we got jugs of water.
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