Your channel is brilliant, my grandson (7) and I watch it all the time, and we do some of them. My only (minor) complaint is that I wish you showed the circuit diagram, even if briefly (as ElectroBOOM does), so we can more easily copy it.
Just by glancing at it i'm pretty sure this is a Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockcroft-Walton_generator Here's an excellent explanation of the circuit, courtesy of EEV blog : th-cam.com/video/ep3D_LC2UzU/w-d-xo.html
they will come dude. i have been observing the progress of these kinds of channels since the beginning of youtube and i predict you will see a slow steady trickle of new subs that over the long run will prove to be a very loyal audience.
As always, a fantastic job. I love the way you present your builds and experiments. I forsee many school science projects inspired by your work. Well done Jay, your are a champion.
One thing: to ensure longevity of the lighter, don’t use it for more than 10 seconds at a time. Those lighters are not designed for continuous use or their internals fry.
My apologies for the messed up audio levels people. Somehow I messed up on normalizing the sound levels? Please comment on this pinned comment, if it bothered you enough that it merits a reupload. I need a poll. Yes, No?
I finally built one of these. Using 12 20kV capacitors and diodes. My power source is one of those mini 20kV transformers and boy oh boy does this thing put on one hell of a show. I will most likely build a fusor around it.
I building a small 8 stage one with my 5ma diodes and gonna build the full 12stage with the 100ma, i’m using paraffin wax to seal the bottom to prevent leaks
I appreciate such a compliment. I too wish I had grown more, but have been fortunate to have some loyal subscribers. Mostly. Welcome to the plasmanaut family! Sharing my videos is the best way to help Plasma Channel grow, so feel free! Cheers.
Every voltage multiplier has a dedicated ground. It’s one of the input wires. I’d recommend googling voltage multiplier schematic to reference which wire will be your ground.
@@OriginalXfyre instead of sparkgap you can also use GDT's (Gas Discharge Tubes) they are more predicable+safer and can be put in series. for the ground question en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier
First of all I want to apologize that I forgot to turn on the notification because of which I missed this video. I'm here watching this after a long time it was uploaded. If I ever had to make a list of my top 10 favourite TH-cam channels, your channel will be in top 5. The simplicity of the instructions and the elaborate understanding of the steps u provide is the best thing I like about Plasma Channel. I don't know why your channel has only 12k subs. You deserve 12 million subs.
Tarun, you rock. Thank you. Top five is an honor. I aim to be top five of youtube science over time for all. I'm really trying to improve with every video! I too would like to have achieved more than 12,000 at this time!
Thank you for that sentiment. It’s hard to break into the TH-cam science niche... but I’m trying my best. You can certainly help by sharing any videos you find fascinating!
MY SCIENCE TEACHER WAS SOOOO WOW WHEN I MADE THIS LIGHTNING THING,THANK YOU SO MUCH! YOULL GET A 4 MILLION SUBSCRIBER'S,I Hope for it but really thank you
Another question, when you have a moment: It's about frequency of the power supply vs recovery time of the diodes. Everywhere I look, the 2cl2j diodes are insanely expensive... but I have many different alternatives rated at up to 20kv. I was assuming that the 2CL2J diodes had a fast recovery time, but when I looked at the data sheet it isn't even quoted. What I have collected with limited funds: R5000 rated at 5kV and 2MHz recovery frequency. PRHVP2A-20 - rated at 20kV, unknown recovery time CL04-12 (MO diodes) rated at 12kv, 450mA - unknown recovery time I want to avoid wasting time and solder using components that will not work together. Do you think any of these rectifiers will be up to the task of an arc lighter, or should I make an inverter based on a 555-driven circuit limited to 2Mhz?
You can get high voltage diodes for free from old microwave ovens. They are usually rated at 12Kv. Post an ad online that you are looking to recycle old microwave ovens and include free pick-up. You'll get diodes, 2Kv capacitors, 2000v transformers, turn table motors, blower fan motors or fans with spools of magnet wire, large ring magnets from the magnetrons, lots of switches, wire, and sometimes simple LCDs and small LED strips. Offer to pick up TVs and other electronics for recycling and you'll have a boatload of parts. I did it for a year and now have thousands of free high voltage components.
This is the best one i have seen ever before- I appreciate your way to teach or explain the project its really simple & easily understandable thanks for it . Three thumbs-up for you👍👍👍 & three thumbs-up for this project👍👍👍
Thanks! It is not lethal, but extremely painful. Partly why I put the big disclaimer in the video. But one should not be drawing sparks to their finger from this device anyways. If you do, and you’re touching the lighter, it will give a nasty shock through your body and also blow up the lighter circuitry (I did it twice). Also why in the video I mentioned to only draw sparks with the grounded wire.
IamKian I am happy you enjoyed the video, and thank you for the credit and link. You’d be amazed how many things of mine have been ‘stolen’ so to speak on TH-cam. I recommend buying the saber light x model, and putting the two internal transformers in series. It gives the absolute best performance, and the 3” sparks in video. Be safe, and never let the spark jump anywhere but the grounded wire (hv ground)
Hi Jay. planning to make it can I use city power (220V) instead of an arc lighter? (ofc with a power button on the cable) And if I do that , the discharge must be connected to the ground?
This will only produce a few thousand, and, you will need current limiters in place from the wall socket. This is so your components do not burn out, and, so that your device is safer for you. Yes it would arc to ground, but could still arc to its own ground.
Being a (sometimes between jobs?) actor really does have some benefits. As an Electronics/IT R&D Engineer, I just don't have the time to do all the fun High Voltage ⚡⚡⚡ things that I used to do as a teen.
@@jacklewis1 I guess you could technically remove the multiplier circuitry in the flyswatter, then it would just be AC. Just a bit of desoldering (now I'm curious what a dual flyswatter arc would look like without the HV cap and multiplier circuitry).
Hey there! Just finished making the Lightning Tower and the 3V Tesla Coil! Just posted my videos of me showing them off (I gave you credit in my description don’t worry!) Super fun projects that I had a blast making! Thank you so much for posting stuff like this that get me excited to be an EE student!
Where did you get the figure of x2.8 from? A voltage multiplier adds 1x the input-voltage at ever stage. The lighter seems to give a higher output than you stated too.
So, Multipliers do not add 1x per layer. A 5000 volt source, is 5000 volts RMS. Peak voltage of any AC is 1.414 times the listed RMS. Then, when a multiplier discharges, it has two capacitors for each stage. That’s 2.828 times the input.
that still only adds exactly 1x the input per stage - and if you have a way to measure the output (use some resistive dividers) you would note that this is exactly what is happening - at stage N you get 'N' x 'Input voltage' As output. It doesn't matter if you measure RMS or Peak voltage as long as you stay consistent. There is ample literature on voltage multipliers and i kinda suspect that the millions of people that have built them and the thousands that use them in professional environments on a daily basis know what they are doing.
There are 2 charged capacitors in a stage, each charged to 1.414 input RMS. How again are two of those in series (2.8) equal to only 1X input? It has 16 capacitors total, all charged to peak RMS. Equation is 2NVmax, or, (2* number of stages * 1.414RMS voltage)......... As per literature: 1)"The total output voltage will be 2nVmax where n is the number of stages" - www.academicjournals.org/article/article1379584824_Dwived%20and%20Daigvane.pdf 2)"Therefore, the maximum value of output voltage is 2nVmax in which n is the number of multiplier stages" www.hindawi.com/journals/jece/2017/4805268/ 3)"2nVpeak = Vout + Vdrop" www.irjet.net/archives/V3/i2/IRJET-V3I2114.pdf SECTION 3.1 The difference in design is the difference in equation. Some are built with capacitors diagonally from each other, with one capacitor per given length. In that case, my device has 16 stages. So 1.414(3kv)*16. 67,000. Or, multipliers can be rearranged visually into two capacitors per visual stage, with them both in line with one another, like mine. In that case, I have 8 stages, or 2(1.414)(3kv) * 8. 67,000. There is indeed ample literature, which, i've been reading for 12 years now.
Plasma Channel I found some caps that work ok, but at most I can only get arcs around an inch, I tripled up the caps with 10 stages. What caps did you use?
The current on the sparks unfortunately is quite high. A shock from this is very painful. But the duration of the spark is so short that it poses no immediate health threat. But is very painful.
the current has nothing to do with it, the only factor that's dangerous is the voltage. the current is the voltage divided by the resistance :/ also those sparks can only deliver probably about 500uA (probably) so, not enough to harm you. but 60kV wouldn't be nice to touch :/
What you built was a Walton-Cockroft voltage multiplier. Multiplier is a misnomer, it's actually a voltage adder - it increases the offset of the AC waveform by the voltage of the primary source at each stage.
I would like to build a voltage multiplier using one of those ebay musical tesla coil kits as the power source. Could you please do a tutorial video on how to do it? It will be such an awesome build to see if it would amplify the music as well as the spark. Thank you for your consideration. I've subscribed and followed, hope to see it someday, as I don't wanna injure myself trying to figure it out. ( ; D)
Hey sir, I'm 16 and my school is closed for some days and I don't want to waste my holidays I'm thinking to do some experiment like you .but i think all u do will harm and danger can you make a science video for students if you don't mind ....
I have built one of these lightning towers and powered it from an arc lighter DIY module which outputs 3-5 kV from 3-5 VDC input. The DIY module seems to be able to accept up to about 12 VDC for an even higher output to feed to the tower. I won't go much higher because the secondary windings of the small transformer might not be able to take much higher potential across them. Now, I'm planning to build a second one of these lightning towers. If you draw out the schematic to the lightning tower you will notice that you can mount the diodes in one of two ways. My first tower has the diode polarity such that it conducts negative voltage up the diode ladder resulting in a large negative DC voltage at the top load. I plan to build my second one with the diodes mounted in the opposite direction up the ladder to create a large positive DC voltage at the top load. Then if I common the ground points of the two towers I should end up with -60 kV at the top of one tower and +60 kV at the top of the other for a net potential difference of 120 kV between the two top loads. It should be possible to generate some pretty good sparks between the two top loads of the two towers. Not quite the 400 kV of the giant tower in the other Plasma Channel video but pretty good. Oh, by the way, I dripped some paraffin wax on the solder joints on the back of my first lightning tower to reduce corona losses from those. It's hard to eliminate all sharp points from the leads of the components. The paraffin insulates those and helps reduce losses. I considered using hot melt glue, it's easier and cleaner to apply, but I wasn't sure about the high voltage properties of it. Also if I ever had to replace a diode or capacitor I'd have to burn through that hot melt glue and it would be messy. I can scrape most of the wax away first if I ever need to make a component change.
Last post on this. I finished my second "positive" tower and have now played them between each other. Man it starts to get scary. The sparks that jump between the top loads of the two towers are between 5 and 6 inches long and quite loud and "angry". I added a green banana jack at the bottom that connects to the ground point of the capacitor/diode ladder so I can plug and unplug the discharge wire easily and interchange it for the commoning wire for both towers running in tandem. I put a banana plug onto a piece of silicone insulated high voltage wire to plug into this jack for the discharge wire. Just nice to be able to plug/unplug that wire rather than capturing it under the terminal behind the acrylic plastic. Great well thought out design for this lightning tower!
Hey Jay, Love your channel!!! I made your voltage multiplier with 2 towers, 1 positive and the other negative and it works Awesome!! Keep up the great videos!! I hope you get that TH-cam play button!
Hi Jay, Again, a bit late to the party, Only one suggestion..... Ok, 2. 1 a circuit digram for those that don't know what multiplier you are using, and 2 where the circuits ground should be, I did not see you show it. Other than that a perfect delivery, Thank you for your hard work in making these videos.
Certainly. The circuit diagram is the same for every voltage multiplier. You may search voltage multiplier schematic on google, and you can choose which way your diodes face, to determine (+) or (-) output. The ground is one of the input wires.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to this stuff. Once all my capacitors and diodes came in I went to work right away building my own model. I was expecting it to explode but IT WORKED !! My arc is only about two inches but it's awesome. Thank you very much !!
Hello, this project looks amazing! I'm collecting the parts to make this project. But I don't understand where the electrical ground is for the lighter. I can't see on the video where you connect the wire too. Many thanks!@@PlasmaChannel
Did it works with a bubble aquarium on the top and your body connected to the exit wire without injuries ? This remembers me the plasma bowl that are sold
I have been working at 1am to shoot this last video over several nights. Really wanted to get a video out and one of respectable quality. I love my plasmateers!
I used to work in a TV shop. A flyback transformer does the same thing and produces 30kv to charge a picture tube on an older tv but only milliamps of current so it's not lethal. If you accidently get popped by a picture tube discharging I guess its like being hit by the difibulator in the ER
I have build a flyback transformer power supply and I'm gonna use to recreate this amazing project of yours. I'm blow all the kids mind in the neighborhood haha
my favorite quote regarding high voltage: "Welcome to the wonderful world of high voltage, where everything is a wire and you're probably about to die."
Wow this is awesome. I'm quite young and am not really sure what I want to do with my life but I am starting a few new hobbies. I'm really glad I found your channel because it inspires me to make things like this. Problem is I'm torn between the spark gap coil or this lol
Hi Cameron. I would highly recommend the mini spark gap coil first. It is much safer. I do not recommend building this if you are totally new to High votlage. Cheers, and welcome to the Plasma Fam!
I'm not too worried about the safety. It's more getting the materials and for that I think it's far easier for the spark gap tesla coil. Either way they're both awesome. Thanks so much
Can you assist me with making this to work with a costume and metal clawed gauntlets or gloves to create an arc up to about 12" between hands? maybe running off a belt power supply of 12vdc?
Hi, I've enjoyed building this voltage multiplier but rather than use a cigarette arc lighter, I decided to use a barbeque arc lighter because the HV transformer already has long leads, is also USB chargable and has versatile positioning...
I just burnt out the arc lighter by arcing to the wrong ground. I drew my arc to the ground of the arc lighter when I think I should have used the multiplier ground… would that be right? New BBQ arc lighter circuit installed and everything is working fine.... for now.... ground taken from the multiplier section instead of the lighter ground
I showed a few pictures at 1:30 mark in my mini lab tour video I released yesterday. It was amazing, the diodes and capacitors I had to use were over $200 each. I found a retired engineer from Fermilab to make the corona rings for me. I designed everything myself, including the drive circuit and a large potted transformer for the start of the stack.
How did I not see this video of your channel before? I made a Tesla Coil experiment some years ago, now I will try the resonance circuit with this tower instead of the coils, and a microwave transformer as PS. New suscriber. Thanks and greetings from Mexico.
Hello Jatinder, I’m honored you enjoy plasma physics as well! yes, Plasma is amazing. May I kindly request you change your user icon image? It appears to be stolen from one of my videos. Thank you in advance.
There are a few discrepencies in your video that I have followed and now I am a little confused. I was following along and then the diode polarity switched around.
Building the desktop lighting tower. I could use some clarity on the diode polarity. Also what connection is ground to attach the spark gap lead. Is a schematic available?
With : 4x 18650 lithium batteries, 4x tp4056 modules , 40x diodes, 40x capacitors, a 15KV High Frequency DC High Voltage Arc Ignition Generator Inverter one bc547, one bc557, one 1M ohm resistor one yellow led, one toggle switch, one push button, a 5V 4Amps charger and epoxy resin i made a powerful stun gun.
Your channel is brilliant, my grandson (7) and I watch it all the time, and we do some of them. My only (minor) complaint is that I wish you showed the circuit diagram, even if briefly (as ElectroBOOM does), so we can more easily copy it.
Just by glancing at it i'm pretty sure this is a Cockroft-Walton voltage multiplier : en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cockcroft-Walton_generator
Here's an excellent explanation of the circuit, courtesy of EEV blog : th-cam.com/video/ep3D_LC2UzU/w-d-xo.html
@@Rhannmah Thank you
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I might be two years late, but I strongly agree
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I just found your channel, but man. I absolutely LOVE what you do. Keep it up, man. You're a standout, brilliant dude.
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I feel like your channel is extremely underrated and you should have like 100,000 subscribers after all of these high quality and informative videos.
Hey that’s very nice. Thank you. While I’m happy with 8,000 subs..... I too am surprised we don’t have more.
they will come dude.
i have been observing the progress of these kinds of channels since the beginning of youtube and
i predict you will see a slow steady trickle of new subs that over the long run will prove to be a very loyal audience.
Davey Jones he sure does have loyal subs! I’m one of them!
Just grass, I’m happy to have you on the plasmanaut family tree!
Just subscribed. Very nice build. I have a bunch of ceramic capacitors, I had a feeling they'd come in handy someday. Thanks.
Cuts and bruises on your hand shows your hard work and dedication to such experiments. 👏👏
As always, a fantastic job. I love the way you present your builds and experiments. I forsee many school science projects inspired by your work. Well done Jay, your are a champion.
Hey thanks! I do hope to inspire a love for science and making
Hooked up the tower properly and it works beautifully. You saved my lighter and no more shocks. Your assistance is most appreciated.
Excellent to hear! Feel free to email me pictures of your final build. Is eventually like to do a video of my viewers’ accomplishments.
One thing: to ensure longevity of the lighter, don’t use it for more than 10 seconds at a time. Those lighters are not designed for continuous use or their internals fry.
My apologies for the messed up audio levels people. Somehow I messed up on normalizing the sound levels? Please comment on this pinned comment, if it bothered you enough that it merits a reupload. I need a poll. Yes, No?
no, it's perfect 😉
Thanks for feedback
Good for me also.
WTF you do to your knuckles bro?
I'd Pay for Someone to make me one.
You Should Make a website and sell diy kits with everything included
“Carefully remove the lighter” *procedes to rip the lighter out of the case* cArEfUlLy
haha. You caught me
Most well dressed man in Plasma today...keep up the great video's :)
Hahaha awesome compliment
I finally built one of these. Using 12 20kV capacitors and diodes. My power source is one of those mini 20kV transformers and boy oh boy does this thing put on one hell of a show. I will most likely build a fusor around it.
I building a small 8 stage one with my 5ma diodes and gonna build the full 12stage with the 100ma, i’m using paraffin wax to seal the bottom to prevent leaks
My goodness....why doesn't this channel has a million subscribers already ?? You are awesome....
Scarlet what a compliment. Thanks! I do wish we had more subs. But by next month we’ll be at 10k which is nice
Yes it is ! Best Wishes 👍👍
How do you only have 22k subs for this high quality content?? Subbed! :)
I appreciate such a compliment. I too wish I had grown more, but have been fortunate to have some loyal subscribers. Mostly. Welcome to the plasmanaut family! Sharing my videos is the best way to help Plasma Channel grow, so feel free! Cheers.
This is the best channel on youtube!
Thank you so much! You can help the channel out by sharing any videos you find shareworthy!
@@PlasmaChannel :D
@@PlasmaChannel Sure!
"How to make free energy"
Well all this free energy comes from a powerplant, you still have to pay for it
Very true. Many people do not conceptualize that point. Energy always has to come from somewhere.
I found this channel last night, and truly this channel is amazing.
Wow thank you so much. I really appreciate the feedback. Subscribed?
I got my voltage multiplier built and it works very good. I keep it at work where it generates a lot of questions. Thanks for sharing it with us.
That is awesomeness
Why doesn’t this guy have more subscribers, I like this stuff.
Thanks a bunch. I'm honored you enjoy my content. It really helps if you share on social media!
Im going to ask a dumb question here.... Where precisely did you hook up to the ground? I'd rather not burn up lighters if I dont have to.
Every voltage multiplier has a dedicated ground. It’s one of the input wires. I’d recommend googling voltage multiplier schematic to reference which wire will be your ground.
Ok thank you for the fast reply.
You are certainly welcome!
I rebuilt it with a tazer module... Forgot the spark gap... and blew a capacitor. But, I did find the ground as you indicated. Thanks again :)
@@OriginalXfyre instead of sparkgap you can also use GDT's (Gas Discharge Tubes) they are more predicable+safer and can be put in series.
for the ground question en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voltage_multiplier
First of all I want to apologize that I forgot to turn on the notification because of which I missed this video. I'm here watching this after a long time it was uploaded. If I ever had to make a list of my top 10 favourite TH-cam channels, your channel will be in top 5. The simplicity of the instructions and the elaborate understanding of the steps u provide is the best thing I like about Plasma Channel. I don't know why your channel has only 12k subs. You deserve 12 million subs.
Tarun, you rock. Thank you. Top five is an honor. I aim to be top five of youtube science over time for all. I'm really trying to improve with every video! I too would like to have achieved more than 12,000 at this time!
can you tell which electrical ground the wire should connect to? The multiplier doesn't have a ground
Yeah no one ever mentions this part. I assume it’s the negative side of the battery or before the diode at the start of the multiplier, who knows.
@@justinx256 okay thanks 😃
This quality deserves at least a million subs...
Thank you for that sentiment. It’s hard to break into the TH-cam science niche... but I’m trying my best. You can certainly help by sharing any videos you find fascinating!
Sure Imma go ahead and share :)
Class explaining class man class creation and you're good in soldering man
Haha thank you. Soldering is a fun thing to do
Yes sir respect ya!
MY SCIENCE TEACHER WAS SOOOO WOW WHEN I MADE THIS LIGHTNING THING,THANK YOU SO MUCH! YOULL GET A 4 MILLION SUBSCRIBER'S,I Hope for it but really thank you
Excellent job. Can you upload a video to youtube and share the video here? I'd love to see your build.
Another question, when you have a moment: It's about frequency of the power supply vs recovery time of the diodes.
Everywhere I look, the 2cl2j diodes are insanely expensive... but I have many different alternatives rated at up to 20kv.
I was assuming that the 2CL2J diodes had a fast recovery time, but when I looked at the data sheet it isn't even quoted.
What I have collected with limited funds:
R5000 rated at 5kV and 2MHz recovery frequency.
PRHVP2A-20 - rated at 20kV, unknown recovery time
CL04-12 (MO diodes) rated at 12kv, 450mA - unknown recovery time
I want to avoid wasting time and solder using components that will not work together. Do you think any of these rectifiers will be up to the task of an arc lighter, or should I make an inverter based on a 555-driven circuit limited to 2Mhz?
You can get high voltage diodes for free from old microwave ovens. They are usually rated at 12Kv. Post an ad online that you are looking to recycle old microwave ovens and include free pick-up. You'll get diodes, 2Kv capacitors, 2000v transformers, turn table motors, blower fan motors or fans with spools of magnet wire, large ring magnets from the magnetrons, lots of switches, wire, and sometimes simple LCDs and small LED strips. Offer to pick up TVs and other electronics for recycling and you'll have a boatload of parts. I did it for a year and now have thousands of free high voltage components.
This is the best one i have seen ever before- I appreciate your way to teach or explain the project its really simple & easily understandable thanks for it . Three thumbs-up for you👍👍👍 & three thumbs-up for this project👍👍👍
Again a nice build!
Will it zap you badly when the arc hits your finger?
YES IT WILL.
Thanks! It is not lethal, but extremely painful. Partly why I put the big disclaimer in the video. But one should not be drawing sparks to their finger from this device anyways. If you do, and you’re touching the lighter, it will give a nasty shock through your body and also blow up the lighter circuitry (I did it twice). Also why in the video I mentioned to only draw sparks with the grounded wire.
Thank you Jay. I'm going to build one for my channel!
I will link the build o your channel 👍
IamKian I am happy you enjoyed the video, and thank you for the credit and link. You’d be amazed how many things of mine have been ‘stolen’ so to speak on TH-cam. I recommend buying the saber light x model, and putting the two internal transformers in series. It gives the absolute best performance, and the 3” sparks in video. Be safe, and never let the spark jump anywhere but the grounded wire (hv ground)
Hey, some time ago I watched your video about the 3kV tesla coil, and I tried to make a similar one. well...It works! Thanks for that video!!
Clearly somebody that actually works with their hands daily.
I'm a maker. Love using my hands. Also martial artist.
Hi Jay.
planning to make it can I use city power (220V) instead of an arc lighter? (ofc with a power button on the cable)
And if I do that , the discharge must be connected to the ground?
i think you will get only 1660 v
i ment 4000v
This will only produce a few thousand, and, you will need current limiters in place from the wall socket. This is so your components do not burn out, and, so that your device is safer for you. Yes it would arc to ground, but could still arc to its own ground.
Being a (sometimes between jobs?) actor really does have some benefits. As an Electronics/IT R&D Engineer, I just don't have the time to do all the fun High Voltage ⚡⚡⚡ things that I used to do as a teen.
Agent Jay' 👍 Gute' Danke für die Kommentare,Und Danke für die Schamatic...From KANSAS the land of Oz'ah's
Your soldering is great, whenever i make multipliers the ends are a bit edgy and so i have leakage, but your solder joints are like completely round
Soldering skills are a must with high voltage. Sharp points will leak power into the air!
Can you rexplain the procedure of fixing capacitors to board ,
It was hard to see
The capacitors are inserted through the spaced holes, then soldered on back side to the appropriate contacts
Really Awesome Plasma Channel...Design is so nice...i hope i will make it in future and also give cradit of you💓
Can I use a fly swatter circuit?
No it outputs DC and the voltage multiplier needs an ac input.
@@jacklewis1 I guess you could technically remove the multiplier circuitry in the flyswatter, then it would just be AC. Just a bit of desoldering (now I'm curious what a dual flyswatter arc would look like without the HV cap and multiplier circuitry).
Hey there!
Just finished making the Lightning Tower and the 3V Tesla Coil! Just posted my videos of me showing them off (I gave you credit in my description don’t worry!) Super fun projects that I had a blast making! Thank you so much for posting stuff like this that get me excited to be an EE student!
I saw them, good work. Thank you for the credit.
Okay so it says "do it yourself" but it looks more like "don't try this at home"
or is it just me?
It a bit of a combination of the two. Is it too much to ask for both?
@@PlasmaChannel oh don't mind me. It's a neat project!
The way it zig-zags down from above...Brother.....is that a man made mini "Tree of Life"? 😄😊🙏🏽🙏🏽
It's a pretty cool design isnt it?!
Where did you get the figure of x2.8 from?
A voltage multiplier adds 1x the input-voltage at ever stage. The lighter seems to give a higher output than you stated too.
So, Multipliers do not add 1x per layer. A 5000 volt source, is 5000 volts RMS. Peak voltage of any AC is 1.414 times the listed RMS. Then, when a multiplier discharges, it has two capacitors for each stage. That’s 2.828 times the input.
Great question by the way 👍
that still only adds exactly 1x the input per stage - and if you have a way to measure the output (use some resistive dividers) you would note that this is exactly what is happening - at stage N you get
'N' x 'Input voltage'
As output. It doesn't matter if you measure RMS or Peak voltage as long as you stay consistent.
There is ample literature on voltage multipliers and i kinda suspect that the millions of people that have built them and the thousands that use them in professional environments on a daily basis know what they are doing.
There are 2 charged capacitors in a stage, each charged to 1.414 input RMS. How again are two of those in series (2.8) equal to only 1X input? It has 16 capacitors total, all charged to peak RMS.
Equation is 2NVmax, or, (2* number of stages * 1.414RMS voltage).........
As per literature:
1)"The total output voltage will be 2nVmax where n is the number of stages" - www.academicjournals.org/article/article1379584824_Dwived%20and%20Daigvane.pdf
2)"Therefore, the maximum value of output voltage is 2nVmax in which n is the number of multiplier stages"
www.hindawi.com/journals/jece/2017/4805268/
3)"2nVpeak = Vout + Vdrop"
www.irjet.net/archives/V3/i2/IRJET-V3I2114.pdf SECTION 3.1
The difference in design is the difference in equation. Some are built with capacitors diagonally from each other, with one capacitor per given length. In that case, my device has 16 stages. So 1.414(3kv)*16. 67,000. Or, multipliers can be rearranged visually into two capacitors per visual stage, with them both in line with one another, like mine. In that case, I have 8 stages, or 2(1.414)(3kv) * 8. 67,000.
There is indeed ample literature, which, i've been reading for 12 years now.
Plasma Channel I found some caps that work ok, but at most I can only get arcs around an inch, I tripled up the caps with 10 stages. What caps did you use?
How am I just now finding you channel?!
Awesome video... and may I add that you have a great sense of style too!
Thanks a ton. I try my best!
@@PlasmaChannel and it shows! Keep up the good work... it helps to fuel my inner mad scientist! =P
scared in Current not in Volts 😊😊
The current on the sparks unfortunately is quite high. A shock from this is very painful. But the duration of the spark is so short that it poses no immediate health threat. But is very painful.
the current has nothing to do with it, the only factor that's dangerous is the voltage. the current is the voltage divided by the resistance :/
also those sparks can only deliver probably about 500uA (probably) so, not enough to harm you. but 60kV wouldn't be nice to touch :/
What you built was a Walton-Cockroft voltage multiplier. Multiplier is a misnomer, it's actually a voltage adder - it increases the offset of the AC waveform by the voltage of the primary source at each stage.
I would like to build a voltage multiplier using one of those ebay musical tesla coil kits as the power source. Could you please do a tutorial video on how to do it? It will be such an awesome build to see if it would amplify the music as well as the spark. Thank you for your consideration. I've subscribed and followed, hope to see it someday, as I don't wanna injure myself trying to figure it out. ( ; D)
Welcome to the family! And great idea.
How do get the high voltage for your equipment ? As I want to build a small arc generater thanks Ben
Plasma channel rocks.👍
Hey sir, I'm 16 and my school is closed for some days and I don't want to waste my holidays I'm thinking to do some experiment like you .but i think all u do will harm and danger can you make a science video for students if you don't mind ....
The whole fun of experiments is the danger
fun=dangerous
save=boring
If you observe standard HV safety practices while using this you won't get shocked. And even if you do get shocked you probably won't die.
I have built one of these lightning towers and powered it from an arc lighter DIY module which outputs 3-5 kV from 3-5 VDC input. The DIY module seems to be able to accept up to about 12 VDC for an even higher output to feed to the tower. I won't go much higher because the secondary windings of the small transformer might not be able to take much higher potential across them. Now, I'm planning to build a second one of these lightning towers. If you draw out the schematic to the lightning tower you will notice that you can mount the diodes in one of two ways. My first tower has the diode polarity such that it conducts negative voltage up the diode ladder resulting in a large negative DC voltage at the top load. I plan to build my second one with the diodes mounted in the opposite direction up the ladder to create a large positive DC voltage at the top load. Then if I common the ground points of the two towers I should end up with -60 kV at the top of one tower and +60 kV at the top of the other for a net potential difference of 120 kV between the two top loads. It should be possible to generate some pretty good sparks between the two top loads of the two towers. Not quite the 400 kV of the giant tower in the other Plasma Channel video but pretty good. Oh, by the way, I dripped some paraffin wax on the solder joints on the back of my first lightning tower to reduce corona losses from those. It's hard to eliminate all sharp points from the leads of the components. The paraffin insulates those and helps reduce losses. I considered using hot melt glue, it's easier and cleaner to apply, but I wasn't sure about the high voltage properties of it. Also if I ever had to replace a diode or capacitor I'd have to burn through that hot melt glue and it would be messy. I can scrape most of the wax away first if I ever need to make a component change.
Last post on this. I finished my second "positive" tower and have now played them between each other. Man it starts to get scary. The sparks that jump between the top loads of the two towers are between 5 and 6 inches long and quite loud and "angry". I added a green banana jack at the bottom that connects to the ground point of the capacitor/diode ladder so I can plug and unplug the discharge wire easily and interchange it for the commoning wire for both towers running in tandem. I put a banana plug onto a piece of silicone insulated high voltage wire to plug into this jack for the discharge wire. Just nice to be able to plug/unplug that wire rather than capturing it under the terminal behind the acrylic plastic. Great well thought out design for this lightning tower!
fuel, electric y, and Chinese technology. what could go wrong? :D
Hey Jay, Love your channel!!! I made your voltage multiplier with 2 towers, 1 positive and the other negative and it works Awesome!! Keep up the great videos!! I hope you get that TH-cam play button!
That is awesome! What is your max spark length?
Plasma Channel 13” is the longest so far before the capacitors start arcing across each other.
Sir Jay I say your all videos . I love your all videos 😮😇😇
Thank you!
Plasma Channel please can u send me circuit diagram
You have such an awesome channel...Thanks for it!
Thanks!
great to see you after few weeks.
It’s great bring back
+NEY Industries yep.
its so creative and damn awesome.
good things take time.
Awesome 😀 👍 🌟 you deserve more subscribers 👍
Thanks! You can help by sharing this video.
I always do mate 😁👍
I subscribed and liked this video, BECAUSE it's awesome! Keep doing more of such great things!
Thanks! Welcome to the Plasmanaut family
I'm just glad I found another person who chews their knuckles.
Cold Plasma proved Strickfaden was more than a fad.
This is the best toy to have on desk and fry some usb drives. lol
I'm creating multiplier while watching this video, I shocked myself 3 times
Hi Jay, Again, a bit late to the party, Only one suggestion..... Ok, 2. 1 a circuit digram for those that don't know what multiplier you are using, and 2 where the circuits ground should be, I did not see you show it. Other than that a perfect delivery, Thank you for your hard work in making these videos.
Certainly. The circuit diagram is the same for every voltage multiplier. You may search voltage multiplier schematic on google, and you can choose which way your diodes face, to determine (+) or (-) output. The ground is one of the input wires.
love watching your channel and made a few of your projects
You made the video very neatly... 👌 nice and clean.
Thanks! Really happy you enjoyed it.
Thanks for the video. I'm new to this stuff. Once all my capacitors and diodes came in I went to work right away building my own model. I was expecting it to explode but IT WORKED !! My arc is only about two inches but it's awesome. Thank you very much !!
Hi John! Im really happy you got it working. Just remember, only let it discharge to it's own electrical ground. Be safe, have fun!
Hello, this project looks amazing! I'm collecting the parts to make this project. But I don't understand where the electrical ground is for the lighter. I can't see on the video where you connect the wire too. Many thanks!@@PlasmaChannel
You didn't show the connections on the top head which the copper pipes are located. Btw thanks for sharing this 😊
Did it works with a bubble aquarium on the top and your body connected to the exit wire without injuries ?
This remembers me the plasma bowl that are sold
Awesome to hear from you again
I have been working at 1am to shoot this last video over several nights. Really wanted to get a video out and one of respectable quality. I love my plasmateers!
I used to work in a TV shop. A flyback transformer does the same thing and produces 30kv to charge a picture tube on an older tv but only milliamps of current so it's not lethal. If you accidently get popped by a picture tube discharging I guess its like being hit by the difibulator in the ER
Which depending on what part of your heartbeat cycle it hits, can still stop your heart, or put it in fibrillation.
But Flybacks produce DC don’t they?
@@Coyote0874 Asymmetrical AC. They are generally used to feed a diode, or vacuum tube (electron gun), that rectifies the output.
I have build a flyback transformer power supply and I'm gonna use to recreate this amazing project of yours.
I'm blow all the kids mind in the neighborhood haha
considering you are using a flyback i hope you dont blow minds literally...
make the kids' heads fly back
That's pretty groovy! I may put one together. Thanks.
A Plasma Channel.............! The gods are generous!
Welcome to the team plasmateer!
my favorite quote regarding high voltage:
"Welcome to the wonderful world of high voltage, where everything is a wire and you're probably about to die."
Good ol William Osman
@@PlasmaChannel yesss
how do the charges not run away from sharp points and also what did you do to your fingers!
Wow this is awesome. I'm quite young and am not really sure what I want to do with my life but I am starting a few new hobbies. I'm really glad I found your channel because it inspires me to make things like this. Problem is I'm torn between the spark gap coil or this lol
Hi Cameron. I would highly recommend the mini spark gap coil first. It is much safer. I do not recommend building this if you are totally new to High votlage. Cheers, and welcome to the Plasma Fam!
I'm not too worried about the safety. It's more getting the materials and for that I think it's far easier for the spark gap tesla coil. Either way they're both awesome. Thanks so much
@@PlasmaChannel also may I ask how long it usually takes to wind up with copper wire for a coil?
Your efforts are valuable , the result is top quality videos. .
Many thanks
Thank you!
Ngl wanna make a 6ft one that's layered so it can output dramatically different voltages but it looks like it's from the same unit.
Hope you have a great 4th of July weekend Jay, I really enjoy your series and would like to build your multiper
Busted knuckles and fun with electricity! I'll subscribe.
haha. Welcome to the family, Plasmanaut
wonderful DIY video, great explanation
THANK YOU!!
Hey, thanks for such kind words! Really glad you enjoyed
Is it okay to do it with 20 diodes and 20 capacitros and how do i know where is the ground of the multiplier
Forgot I was subscribed to this channel along with keystone science
Well, welcome back! Every 2-3 weeks I upload a new video.
Great build! I have electronics background and plan on building this with my sons, possibly building a 16 stage multiplier!
then you need to put it under oil
Awesome and Clean Build !
Thanks! How a device looks matters just as much to me as how it performs!
WHOA! last time I checked you had 2.1k subs! nice job!!!
Haha thanks! Aiming for 10k by end of month!
Can you assist me with making this to work with a costume and metal clawed gauntlets or gloves to create an arc up to about 12" between hands? maybe running off a belt power supply of 12vdc?
Hi Valkyrie. That may be a bit dangerous. Feel free to email me a sketch or a full description and I’ll be happy to give suggestions!
Must have had an oops moment with the bolt fasteners. In one scene you used steel bolts, then shortly after the board is shown using brass.
This Physics teacher is so Handsome 😁
Why thank you
@@PlasmaChannel handsome teacher? haha 1minute: th-cam.com/video/1PfC1TEqS2Y/w-d-xo.html
"always keep safety in mind"
"Don't turn it on while the cable is still connected"
Hi, I've enjoyed building this voltage multiplier but rather than use a cigarette arc lighter, I decided to use a barbeque arc lighter because the HV transformer already has long leads, is also USB chargable and has versatile positioning...
I just burnt out the arc lighter by arcing to the wrong ground. I drew my arc to the ground of the arc lighter when I think I should have used the multiplier ground… would that be right? New BBQ arc lighter circuit installed and everything is working fine.... for now.... ground taken from the multiplier section instead of the lighter ground
Nicely done! I built a 14 foot tall version a few years ago for a big contract.
Thanks! Whoa... I’d love to see pictures of that. You should send a picture to my email in the ‘about’ section
I showed a few pictures at 1:30 mark in my mini lab tour video I released yesterday. It was amazing, the diodes and capacitors I had to use were over $200 each. I found a retired engineer from Fermilab to make the corona rings for me. I designed everything myself, including the drive circuit and a large potted transformer for the start of the stack.
What voltage, .....what application.?
How did I not see this video of your channel before?
I made a Tesla Coil experiment some years ago, now I will try the resonance circuit with this tower instead of the coils, and a microwave transformer as PS.
New suscriber. Thanks and greetings from Mexico.
Welcome aboard! Glad to have you. Check out all my newer videos too, they are much better
@@PlasmaChannel I did...they are pure awesomeness. Thank you for your content.
Hey Jay my arc lighter has four high voltage wires how do I make that work?
Great video! Im just having a hard time figuring out how you hooked up the copper pipe
you already found out?
@@indyvermeerschen1924 no not yet
I am in love with plasma physics.........sir plzz can you upload some mathematical aspect of plasma physics 🙏🙏
Hello Jatinder, I’m honored you enjoy plasma physics as well! yes, Plasma is amazing. May I kindly request you change your user icon image? It appears to be stolen from one of my videos. Thank you in advance.
@@PlasmaChannel ok sir apologies...💙
You channel is really amazing. I hope you get more people subscribed and many sucess!!! =D
Thank you! You can help by sharing our videos
@@PlasmaChannel Yes, sure. =D
There are a few discrepencies in your video that I have followed and now I am a little confused. I was following along and then the diode polarity switched around.
Building the desktop lighting tower. I could use some clarity on the diode polarity. Also what connection is ground to attach the spark gap lead. Is a schematic available?
Oh god im kipping missing your videos!!
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This is very worrisome. Please inform TH-cam via the help/ leave feedback bottom. Sorry to hear this!
Plasma Channel I will do it for sure
And thank you so much for the good videos
I know these comments are old but still wondering if a stainless ball (similar to small van de graaf ) would work as top load ? awesome project
It would indeed work. Thanks for the compliments.
Where is the electrical ground wire connected in the multiplier?
Please help me.
With : 4x 18650 lithium batteries, 4x tp4056 modules , 40x diodes, 40x capacitors, a 15KV High Frequency DC High Voltage Arc Ignition Generator Inverter one bc547, one bc557, one 1M ohm resistor one yellow led, one toggle switch, one push button, a 5V 4Amps charger and epoxy resin i made a powerful stun gun.
The capacitor(Vmax) and diodes(Vrrm) only need to be voltage rated at 2x the input voltage btw.
2x the rms voltage for safety. So 2X 1.414 ac voltage
Yes indeed, should always be based on peak).