Quick Correction: The reason you can spec into Counterattack (and its upgrades) and not need it to be on your bar and still benefit from it is because of the Ring of the Midnight Sun!
Really glad you've made the point about prioritising sapping as I thought the same early on - also really helps to level up the hubris glyph to bolster the vigor gen further. The top end guides for the kepeleke build don't really highlight this to players starting out with this at say
Ring of starless skies does weird things. It reduces your vigour costs by 50% meaning you do double damage every time you proc Kelepe. If you use the Banished Lords as well, then it uses all 275 vigour per cast, but you should only need 138 vigour to proc kelepe. Kelepe says no to a double cast, so adds the extra cast damage on. Then you get the extra 50% damage boost on top. Starless skies can make you do 10x the damage.
The vigour cost reduction stacks as well if you put it on other gear. If you have 100% reduction, you proc Kelepe 4x per cast, or at least it adds the extra 3x casts damage on per hit. You can’t go over 100% vigour cost reduction though.
@@RoyalNZPoE yes because of the Banished Lords using all 275 vigour and making kelepe proc several times per cast. But because it can’t cast like that it adds the damage on - multiplying the damage as explained above.
Thank you so much!! Your words mean a lot! I played Touch of Death for a while but switched to Quill Volley. Trying out the overpower variant now. And I'm looking to test out rake/thorns very soon!
Great video explaining some of the finer points that other streamers and TH-camr's tend to neglect when they're doing their build videos. I'll definitely be looking for your other content related to the game. Subscribed...
Agree 100% on not needing max resist. I rock all 5 below 60% and am using duelist on boots instead of Yen's. So much better and I never worry about getting killed
One question regarding kepeleke: Which affix is more Important: Crit dmg Max resource Chance to cast skill twice Special skill of kepeleke? I got many kepeleke with different ga and don’t know which one i should use
I actually think Max resource, assuming you're playing overpower with Banished lord's (want to reach 250 max resource, so you'll want another roll on your helm at least, or get a Shako). But if not overpower, I think hit twice is good!
Maybe you already have two runewords across your gear? That's the maximum (meaning at most two pieces of your gear can hold runes, the rest can only do gems)!
technically with 50%, you would need +100% gen (and so the 50% doubles = 100% recovery), but that's disregarding the sapping legendary node and any other stuff.
As this isn't a guide for one specific build, I didn't make a planner; for now, I would suggest checking out Rob's builds: d4builds.gg/builds/c661ec20-5c71-43d9-9825-81bf67d07091/?var=4 I will try to make a spicy new build, soon-ish though!
Thanks for the video. I am tired of seeing a billion dmg builds. This is the highest dmg. Use this blabla. But nobody is talking about how you gonna come that point. What you need to prioritize... I didn't know that sap paragon legendary nod is important. I got it yesterday. I am 110 right now. I am playing t1 my dmg feels good but I am so squishy. I need to increase my survivability. Thank again
It's honestly so good! Though today I was still running into certain walls in certain Nightmare Dungeons. Still not sure if Teleport would have fared better though!
I needed high resist when my health was under 10k. Now I am a little over 20k-25k, with only around 100% barrier gen and my resists don't seem to matter much. Dropping Yens for duelist aspect bumps my damage a lot which is worth it for speed farming pits. Outside of pits world tier 4 melts with no dmg...
I see! I also have had a similar experience as I kept bumping up my health. I do have mostly maxed resists currently though (but that may change as I update my gear further)! Thanks for sharing!
I have both harlequin crest and heir helmets and hands down the heir helmet is way way better. Gives you core skill points and it just helps me melt big clusters of enemy’s before they even have a chance to attack. The harlequin is good but the heir is about 4x stronger.
The max aspect on a Loyalty's Mantle helm is far better than a starless skies imo, I'd almost say getting a 1 or 2 ga near to max or a max roll Loyalty's Mantle is easier than the starless skies.. even if you can craft it. With the max aspect roll on LM along with the ability to keep a legendary aspect and decent masterwork roll of basic damage with an additional cost reduction roll on ring outshines an Ebewaka/Starless. With near max aspect roll on Loyalty's mantle, Midnight Sun, Kelepe, and Banished Lord's, then make sure you either get a double masterwork hit on a damage out of stealth GA'd or not.. on the Shroud of False Death, at least an 8/12 masterwork on all the rest of your gear with your glyphs all at 75+ you'll be hitting in the trillions of damage or higher with little effort. Takes awhile to reach this progression.. maybe a week tops of decent grinding, and I have terrible RNG as well. So maybe you'll be much faster than my progression. Also, ditch the rebound legendary aspect, it's garbage if you want to press t4 uber bosses or pits higher than 65. Keeping rebound you're giving up a lot of potential power, even at a max aspect, you're basically loosing 45% of your overall damage with every attack. It's perfectly ok to use when you're leveling though. Replace it with a damage aspect for a basic or core skill asap.. don't even think about using Rapid either! Any aspect that doesn't boost your basic or core damage is a waste of time. Earthen Bulwark runeword is broken as well, you're not supposed to be 100% invincible. You can run a full glass cannon negative resistance low armor w/o a Shroud of False Death spiritborn and press pits higher than 130+ just using earthen bulwark runeword easily. I've tested this on a pit 143 with negative resistances and only 560 armor and cleared in about 6 minutes without any deaths, the attack speed and multiple hit chance of quill volley can keep Earthen Bulwark up almost 99% of the time. And I'm pretty sure some of the more popular streamers/builders have done a 150 in a few minutes or less.. I was just testing one pit before the streamer hype train steamrolled the community with multiple quadrillion damage numbers and 2 minute sub par 150 pit runs showcasing a plethora of YT videos on "The New Meta".. I'd imagine the Earthen Bulwark thing is a class wide issue as anyone could use this as long as their base attacks or any attack they can use that doesn't cost them anything or they have stupid high regen on their energy to cast are around 70% attack speed to keep Earthen Bulwark up nearly all of the time.
@@lonmeasley752 I've tested Earthen Bulwark on various numbers of armor, even the lowest being 213.. thats also all gear rolls with dex, hp, and atk spd, or chance for vulnerability on hit. Having at least 70% atk speed does in fact keep EB up all of the time in large packs and with a quill build the cd isn't needed for much of anything, but resource cost reduction for a banished lord's build will give you more damage overall per vigor point over not using it when you factor in the aspect for kelepe..
World bosses are the only place to get united tributes for undercity. Allows entire party to farm legendary aspects as opposed to resolute only for one player.
yeah im hitting up to around 150B in damage but for some reason, at the very begginning of my burst i do very small damage, takes me like 5 seconds to get going with good damage. really annoying and idk how to fix.
@@joegrant5757 yeah im hitting around 225b right now, but still it takes time to get to that damage. not sure how im seeing people start off strong and finish strong where as im weak then strong. idk whats causing it =\
Which primary Spirit Hall are you using? I use Gorilla primary and Jag secondary so all skill casts grant stacking barrier up to 30% hp - I felt too squish when running the opposite, Jag > Gorilla. 🤷
@@draega570 yeah I tried that and I still get melted sometimes but also I’m trying to figure out how these people are able to run jaguar main hall and their barrier or Health doesn’t even get broken through lol it honestly confuses me
That's a really good tip. I actually had more success swapping back to Gorilla (primary), Jaguar (secondary) when I first entered WT4. But now that I'm surviving much more easily, I'm back to running Jaguar primary
It would be fantastic if they'd fix the Mythic drop rate. So far, I've had 2 Mythics drop, plus the one I got with the 2 more or less free sparks by completing the Seasonal journey. Can't tell you the number of boss summons and time spent for no result.
I don't think people have fumly realised how useful the undercity is, for getting boss mats, masterworking mats and runes it's ridiculously good, plus on top of that you can tailor which items drop for you at the end of it, it's ridiculously useful
@lonmeasley752 Question,,, why do people put points into Follow Through passive?? we dont use basic skills, hence this shouldnt affect any of the skills being used.... great video thx in advance!
Actually 1 more question I found a normal 750 Midnight sun with 50% recovery but also have a 47% Ancestral version, I should just use the 47% version just for higher power? Again, thx in advance!
@@bon816 Hmm, that's a good question, and I don't have a very clear cut answer, but I would definitely lean towards the ancestral version for the ability to masterwork to rank 12 (compared to a max of rank 8!) You may just need to make sure you have resource generation rolls on your second ring, and possibly run Yen's blessing to help with that too.
a good video to make, but your throwing a lot of hints without specifics. e.g. What is a good value for max resource and resource generation? As for rune farming. The best way is to do titan runs in the undercity. Half a dozen runs in a group and you will have enough mats to do a bunch of Tormented boss runs. And as the op says Tormented bosses drop runes as well as the chance of dropping Mythics. Its much more efficient than just doing harmony runs in the undercity. I've got a bunch of every legendary rune(6+ of every type) as well as bunch of mythics(10+) doing it this way Ironically, the only mythic that hasn't dropped for me is the Shroud.
Thanks for the feedback and tips; you're absolutely right! I think the one roll on resource gen on the ring plus Yen's boots is enough; then it would be good to aim for 250 max resource if playing overpower. And I'm definitely going to try out the mythic tributes for the Undercity!
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Quick Correction: The reason you can spec into Counterattack (and its upgrades) and not need it to be on your bar and still benefit from it is because of the Ring of the Midnight Sun!
One note. Dodge goes before Block and could cost you a Block, which will reduce damage from Redirected Force,
@@quitwastinmytime that's an amazing tip. But I suppose taking it is still preferred for the crit damage right?
@@lonmeasley752midnight sun is mandatory unless you're doing a trash build let's be honest
@deathbox6944 robs one shot pit push build doesnt use it. And I don't use it and can clear pit 150. But I agree if ur not pushing use midnight sun.
Yup, using same build@@kkoollification
Really glad you've made the point about prioritising sapping as I thought the same early on - also really helps to level up the hubris glyph to bolster the vigor gen further. The top end guides for the kepeleke build don't really highlight this to players starting out with this at say
Exactly! Thank you for filling in all these details as well. Cheers!!
Finally!!! All the notes in one video clarifying what I couldn’t figure out from every other video. Thank you
Ring of starless skies does weird things. It reduces your vigour costs by 50% meaning you do double damage every time you proc Kelepe. If you use the Banished Lords as well, then it uses all 275 vigour per cast, but you should only need 138 vigour to proc kelepe. Kelepe says no to a double cast, so adds the extra cast damage on. Then you get the extra 50% damage boost on top. Starless skies can make you do 10x the damage.
The vigour cost reduction stacks as well if you put it on other gear. If you have 100% reduction, you proc Kelepe 4x per cast, or at least it adds the extra 3x casts damage on per hit. You can’t go over 100% vigour cost reduction though.
@@chrispritchard2331 how much is the max RCR u can have? name the gears ty
Super interesting!! Thanks for sharing
Vigour cost reduction is instead multiplying the amount of vigour used.
@@RoyalNZPoE yes because of the Banished Lords using all 275 vigour and making kelepe proc several times per cast. But because it can’t cast like that it adds the damage on - multiplying the damage as explained above.
Oh Shroud of False death is good? I had it drop but didn’t know how to best use it! Thanks, I’ll looks into it.
Yeah the +1 to all passives is crazy!
I love mine just for the ability to move past enemies and getting the bonus from breaking stealth
Love that you talk about THE WAY to endgame. this helps me a lot. Subscribed ! What build did you play ?
Thank you so much!! Your words mean a lot! I played Touch of Death for a while but switched to Quill Volley. Trying out the overpower variant now. And I'm looking to test out rake/thorns very soon!
Great video. If you're not using counter attack on your bar what do you suggest using in it's place if you're playing crushing hand? Thank you.
Hey, thank you! Honestly I'm not super familliar with the build, but I've found Vortex to be SUPER useful (for quill volley)!
Use turbulence aspect on boots and use soar. Put a point in vortex
Great video explaining some of the finer points that other streamers and TH-camr's tend to neglect when they're doing their build videos. I'll definitely be looking for your other content related to the game. Subscribed...
Thanks for the kind words!!! A lot of it is my personal experience when trying to navigate build guides and whatnot!
Agree 100% on not needing max resist. I rock all 5 below 60% and am using duelist on boots instead of Yen's. So much better and I never worry about getting killed
Glad to hear that!! The damage from duelist is surely significant!
LOL -- loved how you showed an insta-death on Grigoire right when you brought up the subject of survivability.
That was the intent 🤣😜
One question regarding kepeleke:
Which affix is more Important:
Crit dmg
Max resource
Chance to cast skill twice
Special skill of kepeleke?
I got many kepeleke with different ga and don’t know which one i should use
I actually think Max resource, assuming you're playing overpower with Banished lord's (want to reach 250 max resource, so you'll want another roll on your helm at least, or get a Shako). But if not overpower, I think hit twice is good!
finally someone gets specific ......thx man
Glad you found it helpful! Thank you!
How do you put runes in weapons and armor? I can only do one or the other, but not both.
Maybe you already have two runewords across your gear? That's the maximum (meaning at most two pieces of your gear can hold runes, the rest can only do gems)!
Crushing hand build with hunter and soar is amazing for movement. I fly through maps
I see; great tip!!!
If u have a 47% ring , how much Gen do u need on tool tip ?
technically with 50%, you would need +100% gen (and so the 50% doubles = 100% recovery), but that's disregarding the sapping legendary node and any other stuff.
do we have the planner?
As this isn't a guide for one specific build, I didn't make a planner; for now, I would suggest checking out Rob's builds: d4builds.gg/builds/c661ec20-5c71-43d9-9825-81bf67d07091/?var=4
I will try to make a spicy new build, soon-ish though!
Thanks for the video. I am tired of seeing a billion dmg builds. This is the highest dmg. Use this blabla. But nobody is talking about how you gonna come that point. What you need to prioritize... I didn't know that sap paragon legendary nod is important. I got it yesterday. I am 110 right now. I am playing t1 my dmg feels good but I am so squishy. I need to increase my survivability. Thank again
Glad to hear that this is helpful! Thanks for tuning in and good luck!
I regularly use Hunter to jump up/down cliffs to avoid climbing animation bs, as well as to jump through walls when having to backtrack 🙃
It's honestly so good! Though today I was still running into certain walls in certain Nightmare Dungeons. Still not sure if Teleport would have fared better though!
Capping out armor is a must imho. Resistances i completely ignore.
I've actually eventually gotten to both, but if I had to pick, armor is probably preferred (though Poison damage is pesky as heck!)
Cap resistances. If you get trapped in a poison puddle you can be doomed, but you can ignore some armour if you have a high enough barrier.
I needed high resist when my health was under 10k. Now I am a little over 20k-25k, with only around 100% barrier gen and my resists don't seem to matter much. Dropping Yens for duelist aspect bumps my damage a lot which is worth it for speed farming pits.
Outside of pits world tier 4 melts with no dmg...
I see! I also have had a similar experience as I kept bumping up my health. I do have mostly maxed resists currently though (but that may change as I update my gear further)! Thanks for sharing!
I have both harlequin crest and heir helmets and hands down the heir helmet is way way better. Gives you core skill points and it just helps me melt big clusters of enemy’s before they even have a chance to attack. The harlequin is good but the heir is about 4x stronger.
Very interesting, thanks for sharing!
The max aspect on a Loyalty's Mantle helm is far better than a starless skies imo, I'd almost say getting a 1 or 2 ga near to max or a max roll Loyalty's Mantle is easier than the starless skies.. even if you can craft it. With the max aspect roll on LM along with the ability to keep a legendary aspect and decent masterwork roll of basic damage with an additional cost reduction roll on ring outshines an Ebewaka/Starless.
With near max aspect roll on Loyalty's mantle, Midnight Sun, Kelepe, and Banished Lord's, then make sure you either get a double masterwork hit on a damage out of stealth GA'd or not.. on the Shroud of False Death, at least an 8/12 masterwork on all the rest of your gear with your glyphs all at 75+ you'll be hitting in the trillions of damage or higher with little effort. Takes awhile to reach this progression.. maybe a week tops of decent grinding, and I have terrible RNG as well. So maybe you'll be much faster than my progression.
Also, ditch the rebound legendary aspect, it's garbage if you want to press t4 uber bosses or pits higher than 65. Keeping rebound you're giving up a lot of potential power, even at a max aspect, you're basically loosing 45% of your overall damage with every attack. It's perfectly ok to use when you're leveling though. Replace it with a damage aspect for a basic or core skill asap.. don't even think about using Rapid either! Any aspect that doesn't boost your basic or core damage is a waste of time.
Earthen Bulwark runeword is broken as well, you're not supposed to be 100% invincible. You can run a full glass cannon negative resistance low armor w/o a Shroud of False Death spiritborn and press pits higher than 130+ just using earthen bulwark runeword easily. I've tested this on a pit 143 with negative resistances and only 560 armor and cleared in about 6 minutes without any deaths, the attack speed and multiple hit chance of quill volley can keep Earthen Bulwark up almost 99% of the time. And I'm pretty sure some of the more popular streamers/builders have done a 150 in a few minutes or less.. I was just testing one pit before the streamer hype train steamrolled the community with multiple quadrillion damage numbers and 2 minute sub par 150 pit runs showcasing a plethora of YT videos on "The New Meta"..
I'd imagine the Earthen Bulwark thing is a class wide issue as anyone could use this as long as their base attacks or any attack they can use that doesn't cost them anything or they have stupid high regen on their energy to cast are around 70% attack speed to keep Earthen Bulwark up nearly all of the time.
Incredible points and tips, thank you! I had no idea that defenses can be kept that low!
@@lonmeasley752 I've tested Earthen Bulwark on various numbers of armor, even the lowest being 213.. thats also all gear rolls with dex, hp, and atk spd, or chance for vulnerability on hit. Having at least 70% atk speed does in fact keep EB up all of the time in large packs and with a quill build the cd isn't needed for much of anything, but resource cost reduction for a banished lord's build will give you more damage overall per vigor point over not using it when you factor in the aspect for kelepe..
World bosses are the only place to get united tributes for undercity. Allows entire party to farm legendary aspects as opposed to resolute only for one player.
Really good tip. Thank you!
yeah im hitting up to around 150B in damage but for some reason, at the very begginning of my burst i do very small damage, takes me like 5 seconds to get going with good damage. really annoying and idk how to fix.
Interesting, I'm not sure what that could be either! Could it have something to do with your resolve stacks?
Mines about the same starts of with millions and then it bursts out of nowhere billions of damage
The highest I think I might’ve seen is 9trillion but that’s rare
I think I have to do more experimenting with rss generation at 45% I believe
@@joegrant5757 yeah im hitting around 225b right now, but still it takes time to get to that damage. not sure how im seeing people start off strong and finish strong where as im weak then strong. idk whats causing it =\
Survivability is my problem currently on spirit born and tbh I don’t know what I’m going to do to be tanky and not get ran through
Which primary Spirit Hall are you using? I use Gorilla primary and Jag secondary so all skill casts grant stacking barrier up to 30% hp - I felt too squish when running the opposite, Jag > Gorilla. 🤷
@@draega570 yeah I tried that and I still get melted sometimes but also I’m trying to figure out how these people are able to run jaguar main hall and their barrier or Health doesn’t even get broken through
lol it honestly confuses me
That's a really good tip. I actually had more success swapping back to Gorilla (primary), Jaguar (secondary) when I first entered WT4. But now that I'm surviving much more easily, I'm back to running Jaguar primary
Do you have resource generation (to proc more earthen barriers) like I mentioned? If not, that should help quite a bit.
@@lonmeasley752 that might be the problem which runes do that again by chance? Also, what is the best way and fastest way to get them?
It would be fantastic if they'd fix the Mythic drop rate. So far, I've had 2 Mythics drop, plus the one I got with the 2 more or less free sparks by completing the Seasonal journey. Can't tell you the number of boss summons and time spent for no result.
I've had one drop so far! It definitely seems a lot lower than S5's drop rates!
I don't think people have fumly realised how useful the undercity is, for getting boss mats, masterworking mats and runes it's ridiculously good, plus on top of that you can tailor which items drop for you at the end of it, it's ridiculously useful
For sure! I just hope they can reduce the gold cost to get the +passive on amulets
I got 0 armor and pushing 150s
Insane!!!
No Banished lord's is losing you billions of damage. Also did u mention collosal glyph and resolve stacking?
Yeah, you're right. That's definitely what I'm aiming for too, but I assumed it's pretty much meta now and didn't include it in this "mistakes" video!
Wait banish lords isn’t good anymore? What should I be running instead
Are you saying that he's not using Banished Lords so he's losing billions of damage because of it?
@@TwistedDen2024 Yes
@@VisualRift BTL is still best in slot.
@lonmeasley752 Question,,, why do people put points into Follow Through passive?? we dont use basic skills, hence this shouldnt affect any of the skills being used.... great video thx in advance!
It's because the Rod of Kepeleke makes Core Skills also Basic skills! Thanks for tuning in!!
@@lonmeasley752 Thanks for the reply! :)
Actually 1 more question
I found a normal 750 Midnight sun with 50% recovery but also have a 47% Ancestral version, I should just use the 47% version just for higher power?
Again, thx in advance!
@@bon816 Hmm, that's a good question, and I don't have a very clear cut answer, but I would definitely lean towards the ancestral version for the ability to masterwork to rank 12 (compared to a max of rank 8!) You may just need to make sure you have resource generation rolls on your second ring, and possibly run Yen's blessing to help with that too.
a good video to make, but your throwing a lot of hints without specifics.
e.g. What is a good value for max resource and resource generation?
As for rune farming. The best way is to do titan runs in the undercity. Half a dozen runs in a group and you will have enough mats to do a bunch of Tormented boss runs.
And as the op says Tormented bosses drop runes as well as the chance of dropping Mythics.
Its much more efficient than just doing harmony runs in the undercity.
I've got a bunch of every legendary rune(6+ of every type) as well as bunch of mythics(10+) doing it this way
Ironically, the only mythic that hasn't dropped for me is the Shroud.
Thanks for the feedback and tips; you're absolutely right! I think the one roll on resource gen on the ring plus Yen's boots is enough; then it would be good to aim for 250 max resource if playing overpower.
And I'm definitely going to try out the mythic tributes for the Undercity!
Does anyone wanna sell Eom runes?
when i see ur guide , i think , hopefully noone will listen to u :P
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