Aloha James, Also , if you check Leodinardo Devinci's machines, one was a screw cutting machine. A useful bit a the past that can today still be useful.
Another way to layout the threads at an arbitrary pitch is to mount the rod on center points so it can rotate. Then angle the rod to the desired pitch. Then allow a weighted string to hang from the rod as you rotate it. As long as you do it slowly to keep the line plumb, it will wind in a helix around the rod. Brushing it with a little varnish will keep it in place as you cut the initial lines.
Hey James! Wow, you are no going back almost 1000 years with this video. This is how a screw was made when the only thing that the blacksmith did was make weapons and iron parts for wagons and farm implements. By the way, make the nut already!!!! If I have to hear how we have to wait until the nut is finished one more time, I'll go nuts!!!! Great video, by the way....LOL!
Awesome! I have a broken mcm chair with a wooden screw leg, odd size. I can't wait to try and see if I can carve a piece for the leg! Thanks for the inspiration!
Your patients is amazing my friend!! I’d build the box personally but I’m not big in carving yet, I have to much other stiff to master or at least get the fundamentals down on before moving to that lol
That's pretty cool! I want to try that out now with a spare birch dowel section. Compared to the thread box I got at woodcraft, it's gonna look horrible, but dang it, I'm going to try and get it to fit in a threaded hole!
Is great to see what can be done with just a few basic tools. A very interesting video. I'll be back next week to see how to make the nut. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes. :)
Awesome work, James! 😃 You know, I could never find those things you use to make threads on wood to buy here in Brazil... Then, when I first saw this video (on the other channel) I thought "that's what I'm going to need to do"... Then I remembered: you can modify a steel nut and bolt to do that! 😃 Anyway, thanks a lot! It just solved my problem! 😂 Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
Aloha James, For lay out of this type of screw, actually a 'helix', think of DNA, Pinstripe tape is available in many widths. Also, a single line or that of a wooden screw using pinstriping based on the needs of the screw needed, can be easier using the single line of tape.
that is a great idea. the traditional methoud is with twine you then mark along the post where you want the threads and wrap it then eyeball the spacing.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Aloha James, since becoming disabled[but able and willing to learn and re-learn tech of years ago]I've become mostly an Un-plugged Woodworker. Gone are my days as the 'Lead Carpenter' or running a 10 acre workshop. Today, I bee-have myself, doing my honeybees or recycling woods from float some or pallets. Mesquite or Kiawe as it is known here is just one of the 'food-safe' woods here I try to work. It is so tough it was once use for the roadways of Texas. As to it's import to Hawaii from the mainland, in 1824 , it's pods were fed to cattle during shipping here and after being tossed up and swam to shore, these pod fed cattle pooed the world's first honey forest's of Hawaii, so says Nat Geo 1915. My bees of just 20 of my 220 hives , that were used to keep 2 hotel area's safe from invading swarms of bees yielded 1200 pounds of Kiawe honey every 2 weeks , year round. The wood is so tough , it sounds like metal when you tap on it. I'm currently using it as bench clamp screws and plan on using it as the main vise screw of my 'un-plugged' workshop in my backyard.
Looking forward to seeing you make the nut threads. I've seen Roy Underhill's episode with the box die made of a file, which depends on using a store bought tap. I'm interested to see how you're going to do it
Honestly, I had no idea you could even make a screw with just a chisel and saw. You really gotta wonder how long its been since this was common practice!
I LOVE IT ❤️ Like i said on the other chanel i love to see another way to do the threads ! This project (for me) , is on the edge of eather bying the tool for wood threads or do it like you’re doing right now ... hmmm🤔 because the patience is what i’m missing right know lollll On an other note i wanted to say that i’m sory about the way i rote the other day about buying all kinds of tools to do things 😔 I must of been on a bad day , i apologise 🥺
It is horse but leather. And there's a hunting compound on it. Here's a video where I talk about them more specifically. th-cam.com/video/jzsy9KlCIkg/w-d-xo.html
Back on April 14th, the Google Doodle honored Johannes Gutenberg. Because making a printing press is one of my bucket list items, it got me interested and I ended up watching a documentary about his printing press. In it, they showed a woodworker making the massive screw needed for the press. At 7:40 it shows him hand-cutting the external threads and at 19:25 it shows the medieval contraption for making the internal thread. He used straight chisels for making the crew threads tho' instead of a V-tool. It was a little slower but produced a much cleaner groove. I can't wait to see the next part. th-cam.com/video/uQ88yC35NjI/w-d-xo.html
I've been interested in this for a while, but the existing videos just didn't suit my fancy; not quite old-school enough. I'm excited to see the next steps! How accurate is this historically? Would people just make bespoke screws/nuts as needed, or take the time to make a thread cutting box and specialize in it?
Generally if you just need one this is how you would do it. But if you were to do multiples you would do this first and then create the nut. Then with the first nut you would turn it into a screw box. That would allow you to make more screws much faster. But if you don't have a tap to start with you have to make it this way first.
I’ve just made a cutter to make a wooden tap, so I can then make a nut, and make a second cutter to cut the thread..... James, yours looks like an easier way! Thank you. By the way, at 5:10 I notice you open your vise using one handle of what is obviously a two screw vise, and the second screw (without a handle) moves as well. Is that linkage something you made yourself, or did you buy a turbo vise or similar? Thanks for a great video as always
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Thanks for the answer. I have 3239-06 and on movie Yours looks much bigger - maybe 15 or so? That's why I asked. Thanks to your movie about simple caving I bought Pfeil D15/3. It's very useful to shallow patterns.
As An amateur follower and just on 3.0 presentation I seen other methods that soak the dowel on mineral oil , some up to 7 days , please tell us why it was done that way and why I did not see it with you. Thank you
Soaking it in oil allows it to cut a little bit cleaner so you get less chip out. The problem is it also changes the dimension of the dowel and as the oil cures or runs out the dowel will shrink and it will expand when it is soaked in the oil. Most the time it doesn't change enough to be a huge issue but it can often cause problems. So generally I don't do it on a larger ones. If I'm cutting a smaller one and running it through a screw box then the dimensional change is much less of a percentage and in that case it's not a problem
I've seen this in books. Wha they did, was accurate layout work with dividers and then used a lathe to follow the line. But doing it free hand should be fine. I think layout could be done with a chalk line, but instead of snapping perhaps just hammering on it could work.
This is great! Will definitely give this a try. Do you think it would be that much harder using a regular beveled edge chisel, but at an angle? I'm assuming the amount of time would double. The sucky thing living in my country is that I would have to import that v shaped chisel and it would cost at least double the price once it clears customs.
How difficult would this be without a v parting tool? Unable to find that particular one, or afford any one I can find but I do have a small selection of regular chisels.
You can do it with a standard bench chisel and just chop in from one side and then chop in from the other side you just have to make sure not to go too deep otherwise you can pop out sections. I actually have an old video on beginner carving using just bench chisels.
Hum, have been wondering about if this was possible to do and then make my own screw vice - guess it is :-D Waiting for 2nd video. Here's my snide remark :-p You guys in the US and other big countries are always just like, "Here's a 2" popular dowel, old piece of oak, walnut..." while me here can barely get a 1/2" pine dowel or pine boards without having to sell a kidney :-(
It would be possible to do it on the lathe no?? Marking up the lines and rotating the stick by hand (probably have to make some jig to make it easier) Damn you WW now I'm going to try it! You want the dowel to be bone dry too yes?
that is coming. if you do not have a tap. you have to make the bolt first to make the nut. then you turn the nut into a thread cutting box. but if you have the tap you can skip the first step.
Finally a video after 2 years of searching.
this one has been on my list for around 5 years. I bought this dowel to do it 4 years ago.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo really hoping for the next one 🧡🧡🧡🧡
Aloha James, Also , if you check Leodinardo Devinci's machines, one was a screw cutting machine. A useful bit a the past that can today still be useful.
Another way to layout the threads at an arbitrary pitch is to mount the rod on center points so it can rotate. Then angle the rod to the desired pitch. Then allow a weighted string to hang from the rod as you rotate it. As long as you do it slowly to keep the line plumb, it will wind in a helix around the rod. Brushing it with a little varnish will keep it in place as you cut the initial lines.
Making the screw seems straight forward. I am racking my brain on how the nut will be made. I am looking forward to the next video!
Hey James! Wow, you are no going back almost 1000 years with this video. This is how a screw was made when the only thing that the blacksmith did was make weapons and iron parts for wagons and farm implements. By the way, make the nut already!!!! If I have to hear how we have to wait until the nut is finished one more time, I'll go nuts!!!! Great video, by the way....LOL!
LOL thanks man!
James' just screwing with us. 😬
I was just talking to my friends about making wooden screws. I like this method way more than a tapping box. Thanks James!
Pretty in-thread-able. Nice work.
lmao nice
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Groan lol
Comedy isn't for everyone
What a great low-tech approach. Definitely something Im gonna try
Also wanna say how much I appreciate how often you upload!
Thanks man. I try to keep them coming.
Awesome! I have a broken mcm chair with a wooden screw leg, odd size. I can't wait to try and see if I can carve a piece for the leg! Thanks for the inspiration!
thank you James . i used to single point threads on lathes . that wood drive me nuts .
Very lively presentation.I enjoyed every moment of it. Keep it up.
Your patients is amazing my friend!! I’d build the box personally but I’m not big in carving yet, I have to much other stiff to master or at least get the fundamentals down on before moving to that lol
Real cool what you can do with a couple tools. Looking forward to seeing the rest.
4:47 "I *wood* say this is rather boring" there, nice double pun. Subscribed.
if you use a thick-ish rope you can wrap it around the dowel and still have enough space to run a marking knife around it to make the circular pattern
You can also use any piece of ribbon, they come in many widths, or masking tape or pin stripe etc
Gracias hermano muy bueno tu vídeo para la realización del tornillo de madera, voy aplicar tu enseñanza, saludos desde Turen Portuguesa Venezuela
thanks. I am glad you liked it!
Thank you for showing how to do.
Awesome !!!!!!
I've been looking at doing something like this !!!!
Thank You for all that you do ,,!!!!
Proof you can do anything with just a chisel🤩
That's pretty cool! I want to try that out now with a spare birch dowel section.
Compared to the thread box I got at woodcraft, it's gonna look horrible, but dang it, I'm going to try and get it to fit in a threaded hole!
Interesting method, I hadn't really considered screw cutting using a saw and and chisel, although why not and it looks like it actually works.
Is great to see what can be done with just a few basic tools. A very interesting video. I'll be back next week to see how to make the nut. Thanks for sharing. Best wishes. :)
Awesome work, James! 😃
You know, I could never find those things you use to make threads on wood to buy here in Brazil... Then, when I first saw this video (on the other channel) I thought "that's what I'm going to need to do"... Then I remembered: you can modify a steel nut and bolt to do that! 😃
Anyway, thanks a lot! It just solved my problem! 😂
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
right on. most of the time it is easer to skip this step if you have a bolt the right size you can modify.
Aloha James, For lay out of this type of screw, actually a 'helix', think of DNA, Pinstripe tape is available in many widths. Also, a single line or that of a wooden screw using pinstriping based on the needs of the screw needed, can be easier using the single line of tape.
that is a great idea. the traditional methoud is with twine you then mark along the post where you want the threads and wrap it then eyeball the spacing.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Aloha James, since becoming disabled[but able and willing to learn and re-learn tech of years ago]I've become mostly an Un-plugged Woodworker. Gone are my days as the 'Lead Carpenter' or running a 10 acre workshop. Today, I bee-have myself, doing my honeybees or recycling woods from float some or pallets. Mesquite or Kiawe as it is known here is just one of the 'food-safe' woods here I try to work. It is so tough it was once use for the roadways of Texas. As to it's import to Hawaii from the mainland, in 1824 , it's pods were fed to cattle during shipping here and after being tossed up and swam to shore, these pod fed cattle pooed the world's first honey forest's of Hawaii, so says Nat Geo 1915. My bees of just 20 of my 220 hives , that were used to keep 2 hotel area's safe from invading swarms of bees yielded 1200 pounds of Kiawe honey every 2 weeks , year round. The wood is so tough , it sounds like metal when you tap on it. I'm currently using it as bench clamp screws and plan on using it as the main vise screw of my 'un-plugged' workshop in my backyard.
Looking forward to seeing you make the nut threads. I've seen Roy Underhill's episode with the box die made of a file, which depends on using a store bought tap. I'm interested to see how you're going to do it
Very Nice James!
I can't wait to see how you make a nut!
I know how it's done on metal but I'm kinda hoping for you to blow my mind with a different approach.
Honestly, I had no idea you could even make a screw with just a chisel and saw. You really gotta wonder how long its been since this was common practice!
Love it Love it Love it 👍👍👍
great bolt
I LOVE IT ❤️ Like i said on the other chanel i love to see another way to do the threads ! This project (for me) , is on the edge of eather bying the tool for wood threads or do it like you’re doing right now ... hmmm🤔 because the patience is what i’m missing right know lollll On an other note i wanted to say that i’m sory about the way i rote the other day about buying all kinds of tools to do things 😔 I must of been on a bad day , i apologise 🥺
Thanks man. Don't work about it. Always love good feedback!
Man, I *know* the dad-jokes are coming, but they still hit me in the groan every time.
That is impressive
This is amazing. When you strop the chisel blade, is that just a piece of thick leather? What is the grease on there?
It is horse but leather. And there's a hunting compound on it. Here's a video where I talk about them more specifically. th-cam.com/video/jzsy9KlCIkg/w-d-xo.html
Back on April 14th, the Google Doodle honored Johannes Gutenberg. Because making a printing press is one of my bucket list items, it got me interested and I ended up watching a documentary about his printing press. In it, they showed a woodworker making the massive screw needed for the press. At 7:40 it shows him hand-cutting the external threads and at 19:25 it shows the medieval contraption for making the internal thread. He used straight chisels for making the crew threads tho' instead of a V-tool. It was a little slower but produced a much cleaner groove. I can't wait to see the next part.
th-cam.com/video/uQ88yC35NjI/w-d-xo.html
Do what without what? You're a mad man ;-)
I've been interested in this for a while, but the existing videos just didn't suit my fancy; not quite old-school enough. I'm excited to see the next steps!
How accurate is this historically? Would people just make bespoke screws/nuts as needed, or take the time to make a thread cutting box and specialize in it?
Generally if you just need one this is how you would do it. But if you were to do multiples you would do this first and then create the nut. Then with the first nut you would turn it into a screw box. That would allow you to make more screws much faster. But if you don't have a tap to start with you have to make it this way first.
I like it. I wonder how ancient people make screw with out dice or lathe.
Is there any clip make tap with basic tool?
Surprisingly a lathe was one of the earliest tools. It was spun vertically with a bow string.
Des gefaellt mir super❤😂
I love how the title seems to purposely avoid making the "screwing around" pun.
I’ve just made a cutter to make a wooden tap, so I can then make a nut, and make a second cutter to cut the thread..... James, yours looks like an easier way! Thank you. By the way, at 5:10 I notice you open your vise using one handle of what is obviously a two screw vise, and the second screw (without a handle) moves as well. Is that linkage something you made yourself, or did you buy a turbo vise or similar? Thanks for a great video as always
thanks. that is the twin screw vice from Veritas. there is a chain inside that connects the two.
James, what TPI would you advise for the Veritas large tenon saw, like the one you have?
I was unaware they sold them in different TPI they do offer it in rip of crosscut. but if it is a tenon saw it is rip cut. I believe mine is 9 TPI
@@WoodByWrightHowTo thanks James
It would be interesting to make a video about how to make a precision
steel screw without a machine.
a lot of time and a file!
@@WoodByWrightHowTo you can use portable grinder
Pretty cool, do you have a use for this in the future, or is it just for fun?
this one is just for fun. but I am thinking of making a crazy overkill nut cracker!
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Ooh! Coconut Cracker!
"This isn't boring, this is carving."
But then it's boring again!
These are the screwy side comments you were expecting.
Hey James, what is a number of this Kirschen chisel?
I want to say that was a 39 6 but I used a few different ones. as long as they have the same angle on them. which really does not matter.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo Thanks for the answer. I have 3239-06 and on movie Yours looks much bigger - maybe 15 or so? That's why I asked. Thanks to your movie about simple caving I bought Pfeil D15/3. It's very useful to shallow patterns.
As An amateur follower and just on 3.0 presentation I seen other methods that soak the dowel on mineral oil , some up to 7 days , please tell us why it was done that way and why I did not see it with you. Thank you
Soaking it in oil allows it to cut a little bit cleaner so you get less chip out. The problem is it also changes the dimension of the dowel and as the oil cures or runs out the dowel will shrink and it will expand when it is soaked in the oil. Most the time it doesn't change enough to be a huge issue but it can often cause problems. So generally I don't do it on a larger ones. If I'm cutting a smaller one and running it through a screw box then the dimensional change is much less of a percentage and in that case it's not a problem
I've seen this in books. Wha they did, was accurate layout work with dividers and then used a lathe to follow the line. But doing it free hand should be fine. I think layout could be done with a chalk line, but instead of snapping perhaps just hammering on it could work.
The other common layout would be a string then follow that with a pencil.
Sirve para una escoba son 4 roscas
This is great! Will definitely give this a try. Do you think it would be that much harder using a regular beveled edge chisel, but at an angle? I'm assuming the amount of time would double. The sucky thing living in my country is that I would have to import that v shaped chisel and it would cost at least double the price once it clears customs.
How difficult would this be without a v parting tool? Unable to find that particular one, or afford any one I can find but I do have a small selection of regular chisels.
You can do it with a standard bench chisel and just chop in from one side and then chop in from the other side you just have to make sure not to go too deep otherwise you can pop out sections. I actually have an old video on beginner carving using just bench chisels.
hi
you are know the size of thread -conic one -which are in broom handle
Hum, have been wondering about if this was possible to do and then make my own screw vice - guess it is :-D Waiting for 2nd video.
Here's my snide remark :-p You guys in the US and other big countries are always just like, "Here's a 2" popular dowel, old piece of oak, walnut..." while me here can barely get a 1/2" pine dowel or pine boards without having to sell a kidney :-(
Tight
Love your vids from here in the UK. I notice are you chewing something or is this a habit you have developed while charging??
Lol. I tend to chew my tongue when really focusing.
Snide remark.
Snide remark? Sure.
"Do you have a boy staying here named Jack Kelly?"
#EsotericReferenceIsEsoteric
It would be possible to do it on the lathe no?? Marking up the lines and rotating the stick by hand (probably have to make some jig to make it easier) Damn you WW now I'm going to try it! You want the dowel to be bone dry too yes?
Yes. I was actually looking at making one on the lathe here soon. You can also do it with iterative gearing.
THREAD CUTTING BOX PEEEEERRRLEASEEEEEEEEEEE
that is coming. if you do not have a tap. you have to make the bolt first to make the nut. then you turn the nut into a thread cutting box. but if you have the tap you can skip the first step.
@@WoodByWrightHowTo The Hive Mind says thank you Master'Mind' :D No Tap here but looking forward to viewing and will be making side by side as well
If you bludgeoned someone with that, it would make headlines.
(Geddit?!)
I gave the video a like, but I still think that you were just screwing with us throughout this whole video.
A rough screw. Been there.
Had to watch to see what a chaisel is!lol
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Success comes from holding your mouth just right,
or , Screw that and just chew on your tongue a little!
LOL that is the BEST way!
You explained the cleaning up process about 50 times. Lol.
Yup. That is where the work is!
N not my first rough screw 😆
I did my layout with a pair of dividers.
th-cam.com/video/oLpBF30DjRc/w-d-xo.html
31st.
This isn’t boring, this is tedium ad nauseum.
This is one screwed up video.
Easy jokes aren't worth it.