Tomb Raider (Sega Saturn vs Playstation) Side by Side Comparison

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  • @Shadowlord1980
    @Shadowlord1980 7 ปีที่แล้ว +102

    Saturn version is more atmospheric and little darker than psx version. I played this game with pc version which probably based psx version. So lovely memories this game brings from 1996.

    • @pmatias
      @pmatias ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Also more contrasty and colorful

    • @stefanomazzarello4771
      @stefanomazzarello4771 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ​@@pmatias as many games available on both systems...

    • @dobry-cat
      @dobry-cat ปีที่แล้ว

      PC - версия томб-райдер как у Сатурна одинаковы в графическом плане ..
      а, ps1 версия она немного по своему отличается

    • @jhkuno88
      @jhkuno88 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Yeah its called lower color depth, with more basic colors that pop more.....its actually a negative .....also 20fps vs 30fps....Saturn is junk

    • @juanpabloparedesaraya6131
      @juanpabloparedesaraya6131 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @jhkuno88 It just looks darker on saturn. There are a lot of video games that play better on saturn than ps1, so it's not junk. Don't write from ignorance.

  • @CelticProgeny
    @CelticProgeny 6 ปีที่แล้ว +125

    Both fantastic in their day. The focus was on the puzzles and the exploration unlike todays games that are more like films.

    • @someguy8951
      @someguy8951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Not all games are like films today

    • @CelticProgeny
      @CelticProgeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@someguy8951 I'm talking about Tomb Raider.

    • @someguy8951
      @someguy8951 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@CelticProgeny oh ok my bad

    • @CelticProgeny
      @CelticProgeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      @@someguy8951 No problem pal, my comment isn't clear :)

    • @immortal98638
      @immortal98638 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      True.Back then games were truly challenging.

  • @PubliusAfricanus
    @PubliusAfricanus 6 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    Great game no matter the system. Miss the '90s. Simpler maybe, but always fun.

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Not that much simpler.

    • @AlexRN
      @AlexRN 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      Agreed. But spare a thought to the Saturn owners who bought and loved this game that later learned TR2 and 3 would not come to their console. That must’ve hurt.

    • @DarkLightProjector
      @DarkLightProjector หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@bangerbangerbro You're right. Games aren't fundamentally more complex than they were back then. It's amazing that games had basically reached a realized scope by the 90s.

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DarkLightProjector In a lot of ways, yeah they did. Obviously graphically they have come on, and environments have got bigger, but probably in the 6th generation the depth of games hasn't gone that much further.

  • @JrAccessDenied
    @JrAccessDenied 6 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    Like the added darkness, water, and lack of image clipping causing black lines in the Saturn version. But like the slightly more polished look of the ps1. If these two versions were made into a hybrid they’d be perfect.

  • @runarvollan
    @runarvollan 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    Love the contrast, the water, the perfectly placed dark shadows and bright lights unique to Saturn, and the more pixelated graphics which helps conseal all seams. I just KNEW vanilla would have some benefits still lacking in later versions. Better sound quality in cutscenes too?

    • @lostsektor
      @lostsektor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      saturn plays much worse and looks worse too, sound quality is bad and framerate is droping to 18~20 everytime while ps1 plays fine at 30. fmv cutscene is also worse in quality, try play both in fullscreen and you will see.

  • @Aurocastro1
    @Aurocastro1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    It's great to see you didn't give up on your channel. Keep up the good work! This one in particular brings back so many memories...

  • @goatlps
    @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I played both versions at the time. I remember preferring the Saturn version and thinking it looked much better - although it's now clear the PlayStation has much better resolution (which I probably didn't consider being a thing back then), the image contrast of the Saturn version still gives it a better look. Saturn FTW.

  • @chriskorol4244
    @chriskorol4244 5 ปีที่แล้ว +38

    I remember playing Tomb raider on my Saturn when I was 10 and the bear scared the SHIT out of me and I never played it again till I was 11 :p

    • @Godzillaz264
      @Godzillaz264 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      idem 😂

    • @ricardoresende1658
      @ricardoresende1658 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I remeber playing on saturn to when I was 7 years the T-rex scene used to scare me a lot

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just as well you never saw the T.rex then LOL!

  • @maforo85
    @maforo85 7 ปีที่แล้ว +35

    Like the Saturn look, I like the darker shades. Ps1 loos like theres a lamp light following Lara all the time

    • @kakaszka7236
      @kakaszka7236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it's darker because it's clipping... the graphics render in close proximity and the rest is dark.... this is your "darker shades" :P They had to save texture and give black instead of textures everywhere. But it's best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. That's what all saturn fanboys do all the time. As if the video from the game were inverted "deliberately" you would talk the opposite way. This is pathetic..........

    • @BurnBird1
      @BurnBird1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kakaszka7236 They look different and he prefers the look of one of them, what's the problem? It doesn't matter why it looks different or what exactly causes it.

    • @jpfriki
      @jpfriki 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@kakaszka7236 I think you are wrong with that theory, what about the rest of colors? They look way better with better contrast as well.

    • @ohjoshua67
      @ohjoshua67 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The PlayStation has better lighting and shading because of the Transparency.

    • @NormanFoxLee
      @NormanFoxLee 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If you try to play it - you will hate it. It is literally impossible to see anything in the game.

  • @Grandmastergav86
    @Grandmastergav86 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I remember being impressed by the graphics back in the day of Saturn. Times have changed but I'm still playing Doom 2 and Quake thanks to wonderful mods.

  • @mark902
    @mark902 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    i mean the differences are minimal, but the saturn has better colour saturation and draw distance, and as well that cool "wiggly body light refraction" underwater effect when just her head is above water.

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, sharper textures and better contrast on the Saturn for sure.

  • @ki11m3please325
    @ki11m3please325 6 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I noticed that the Saturn also had better draw distance. The PlayStation has dark rooms till you were in them while you could see the end of the room from another room With the Saturn.

    • @kylematlock7499
      @kylematlock7499 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      yes,also the polygons are not calculated as precisely on the PS also, thats why you see gaps at the vertices where two shapes meet. But PS does look a little smoother/higher res.

  • @davidtracey1583
    @davidtracey1583 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Fun fact: the Sega Saturn Tomb Raider game disk has gorgeous audio tracks that can be played using any CD player.

  • @mr-tyrflow4491
    @mr-tyrflow4491 5 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    I think the developers cant handle the System of the Saturn, because it was complicated, but the Saturn got much more Power than the PS1, Its bad that in many games the full power does not come out, of the Saturn.

  • @ericmatheus2890
    @ericmatheus2890 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Estou tão feliz por ter voltado!!! :,-) Valeu VC Decide!!!!!!

  • @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane
    @The_Husband_of_Jane_Lane 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I first played this game in 2021 after buying all 4 Tomb Raider games, and I enjoyed it. So far, I only played the PlayStation version of the first game and beaten it.

  • @paulpatti5854
    @paulpatti5854 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Tomb Raider on Saturn come out for first, without geometric plygon engine look more colorful and dark than psx version.
    1)Wooden Box > Saturn
    2)Colors > Saturn
    3)Texture > PSX
    4)Water > PSX
    5)Light > Saturn
    6)Framrate > PSX
    7)Save Point > PSX

    • @thetraveler2224
      @thetraveler2224 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      hey at least the ps1 was $100 cheaper and that massive burn Sony gave Sega at the first e3 of 1995.

  • @chucksilva9307
    @chucksilva9307 7 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Nesse caso o Ps1 tem os gráficos mais fluidos, da pra ver menos os polígonos formando as imagens, no Saturn alem de se perceber bem mais os polígonos, que tremem um pouco, parece que o jogo é mais escuro, talvez pra tentar esconder algumas falhas, porem o fato de no Saturn ser mais escuro, da um clima mais sinistro no jogo, o que no caso de Tomb Raider ajuda o jogador imergir melhor na historia, ambas as versões tem seu charme.

    • @arcale01
      @arcale01 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      O jogo está mais escuro porque o Saturn está simulando melhor o ambiente de baixa luminosidade da caverna, o trabalho de iluminação do game é nitidamente melhor, assim como a gama de cores. Basta ver nos momentos em que o ambiente é bem iluminado, como a Saturn se sai bem. Ou seja, no PS1, as cenas escuras é que não estão tão boas. Mas concordo que as texturas e a suavidade dos polígonos está melhor no PS1.

    • @lostsektor
      @lostsektor 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      essa versão do saturn é bem pior q a do ps1 n te como comparar, ps1 muito mais agradavel visualmente fora rodar a 30fps com boa estabilidade enquanto o saturn chora nos 20fps. no video em uma janela pequena n aparenta tanto, mas jogue ambos e vai perceber.

  • @iankof90
    @iankof90 8 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I prefer the Saturn version. The controls were so much better, and there was a better draw distance. While the resolution wasn't as high as the ps1 version, Lara and the enemies were more detailed in the Saturn version.
    Edit: grammar and punctuation.

  • @adroharv9213
    @adroharv9213 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I finished TR on the PS1 and adored it but even though there is a reduction to the framerate on the Saturn, it has it's own gritty darker tone that you could easily argue is more authentic to the type of experience. I like both very much

  • @Gattsu83
    @Gattsu83 7 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    You know, when looking at this comparison, it is truly hard to say which version is better, Look at the details, Example when you are in the pool, the colors and lighting on the playstation is different but the saturn as actual water effects when under the water that the playstation lacks. Looks great for both consoles

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Yeah, but the PS1 used actual transparency effects for the water, which the Saturn could not do, which is why they went with a different water effect to compensate.

    • @matilija
      @matilija 2 ปีที่แล้ว +23

      @@Rocket1377 I wish people would stop spreading that fud, the Saturn COULD do transparencies, but they had to be rendered on the second display processor VDP2 which most developers either weren't comfortable with programming or simply weren't aware due to poor developer tools released by Sega at the time.

    • @segablastprocessing400
      @segablastprocessing400 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rocket1377
      Prefiero el efecto de distorsión del agua al de la transparencia.

    • @wordsshackles441
      @wordsshackles441 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Rocket1377 That is plain false. The Saturn had superior transparency and visual effects capabilities. In fact the Saturn is a more powerful system all around and yes this includes 3D.

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@wordsshackles441👏💯👍

  • @sheltontristania
    @sheltontristania 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Cajuzinha que bom que estás de volta😍❤ E com jogo bão! Nessa o PSX levou, apesar das cores mais lavadas e efeitos de água inferiores ao Saturno.

    • @paulosoares6186
      @paulosoares6186 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Desculpa mas nao a agua na ps1 esta tuda com cor na sega o que vc quer dizer com muvimento da agua e a cor que desaparece e aparece se vc reparar

  • @oldarchiveing4626
    @oldarchiveing4626 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The only thing that Sega must do in game developers from the Saturn is to train them so that, they will not fail at the end of their own 5th gen console.

  • @steveothehulk
    @steveothehulk 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The 1st game I ever seen an ingame cut scene

  • @RodrigoDigoJunho
    @RodrigoDigoJunho 7 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Fico feliz que conseguiu recuperar os dados do canal 😎

    • @vcdecide
      @vcdecide  7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      ^^ vlw, apenas quero que você não me entenda errado quanto a resposta que lhe dei no video do Chase H.Q. (Sega Genesis vs Snes), pois vi que você apagou a sua mensagem, junto com a minha resposta.
      não sei se aquela tinha sido a sua intenção de prejudicar a minha comparação, mas apenas quero que entenda que há haters do meu canal que tem essa intenção de querer anular minhas comparações, sem querer entender o motivo delas existirem, e muito deles até entendem, mas por não gostarem de mim ou das minhas comparações, ainda assim ficam de haterismo com comentários que despreza e cospe sobre os videos que faço no youtube.
      Sendo que comparação vai além de comparações coisas ''iguais'', há diversos tipos de comparações, desde já agraço por acompanhar o canal por mais de 1 ano, e pelos comentários que sempre posta por aqui, sou grata a todas as pessoas que ajudam o canal com comentários, likes, views e etc.
      apenas não me entenda errada, chega uma hora que não tem como se segurar, devido a quantidade de haters querendo desqualificar o que faço, como se não entendesse nada de games.

  • @alexbrito5511
    @alexbrito5511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    this game marked my childhood! I'm going to Sega Saturn, I think this more beautiful with better lighting!

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You joking ? Playstation os clearly superior.. you are biased completely

  • @nakano15
    @nakano15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    2:50 Lara in The Sims load screen.

  • @Ragnarok182
    @Ragnarok182 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both look the same honestly, the only differences I see, Sega Saturn has more detail in terrain and lighting and PlayStation has better effects and sound. Put these two together we got PlayStation 2.

  • @dacueba-games
    @dacueba-games หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Nostalgia is a hell of a drug. This game reeks without the rose-tinted glasses.

  • @Scorpionbe
    @Scorpionbe 7 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The water effects are way better on saturn.

    • @fardeenawan1793
      @fardeenawan1793 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes its much more clearer on the saturn

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      You must be joking
      I'm neutral and it's clear the ps1 was better

    • @fardeenrabbani4320
      @fardeenrabbani4320 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@bensmith5288 you must be blind

  • @giovaniavelar9010
    @giovaniavelar9010 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    2:30 Cara, essa música me traz uma nostalgia, bons tempos viu :-)

  • @neitron90
    @neitron90 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    In 1997 had this game on both consoles, but would play on saturn more often because it felt darker, more atmospheric and the sound was somehow more pleasing. Pixelated graphics were the only slight issue but i only noticed that when i got the game on my ps1. My father would play on ps1 and me on Saturn. :D

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Agreed. I played both too. Provided the resolution was high enough to see objects, know what they were, and didn't affect difficulty, that's all that mattered - because gameplay and atmosphere were more important (although the gameplay was certainly clunky). The 'reboots' have lost the originals' fanbase because they just hijacked the brand name to make a 3rd person shooter with a flat-chested girl - technically far greater, but nothing to do with the original tomb-raiding Lara Croft.

  • @DrxSlump
    @DrxSlump 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The textures dance like crazy on the PlayStation (as usual). There's also a lot of polygon flicker on the later. Saturn does a better job in those fields. But on anything else, the PlayStation looks kinda better.

  • @aerogun18
    @aerogun18 7 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    You're all out of your minds. The PS1 polygons tremble like crazy and black lines become visible all the time, which barely happens in the Saturn version, if at all.

    • @31leoceara
      @31leoceara 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those gaps between polygon edges is what bothers me the most in Playstation games, along with the horrid texture distortion! Ugh!

    • @hristaki99
      @hristaki99 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Happens just as much on the Saturn. In fact, Saturn is the only console other than the PS1 that suffers from this issue.

  • @GeekGamerGui
    @GeekGamerGui 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Saturn version shows some distorsions of shapes in the water those aren't present on PS1. The PS1 version has some graphical glitches flickering between the textures. I suppose it's enough to say the Saturn wins for this time.

    • @donemansion
      @donemansion 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Geek Gamer Gui
      Hold your trigger, Sega saturn and ms dos version have same water effect no diffrence at all. This guy didnt made comparison water effect saturn Vs ms-dos tomb raider 1 version. Sega didnt win

  • @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes
    @BAZFANSHOTHITSClassicTunes 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Its a close one, but i first played where it all started - The Saturn. For pure nostalgia the Saturn for me is the winner - and that music is iconic on both systems.

  • @marckun53
    @marckun53 7 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Apesar da Lara Croft ter ficado famosa no PlayStation, quem diria que Tomb Raider nasceu no Sega Saturn.

    • @biglui
      @biglui 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Pois é... Apesar de ter comprado meu Saturn já tarde (1999) ainda se via vendendo o jogo nas lojas. Arrependo de não ter comprado na época.

  • @alexbrito5511
    @alexbrito5511 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Congratulations on the great content.

  • @Thelife8819
    @Thelife8819 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Tengo las dos versiones y la primera que jugué fue el año 1996 para Sega Saturn.
    Me gusta la de Saturn por su atmósfera en los gráficos, pero es horrible en el framerate etc.
    La versión Pal fue la primera y tenía muchísimos fallos, la mejor es la Japonesa con todo arreglado y 60Hz

  • @ferna2294
    @ferna2294 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    They only downside on the PS1 are the polygon lines going through eachother on the scenary in certain parts, which was common in PS1.

  • @antoniesb4330
    @antoniesb4330 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The Saturn version is amazing. Just bought and love it. Much more atmosphere, that is all for this kind of game!

  • @Crystallums
    @Crystallums 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Both consoles do a great job for the time, but considering that I met this wonderful game on the PS1, I prefer the latter, since it has better colors and finishes in general, because I have very good memories of the gray girl, although I recognize everything the potential of the Saturn.

  • @Belpowerslave
    @Belpowerslave 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's wild, the Saturn version actually looks better during the training area in the mansion, especially with those water effects, but once the game starts it just falls apart. This is coming from someone who only had the Saturn version back in the day...

  • @oneminutefixed5003
    @oneminutefixed5003 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    bought my first 3dfx card to run this and carmaggedon, i nearly cried when i saw the improvements

  • @MEDZFactor
    @MEDZFactor 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The game believe it or not, was originally going to be a saturn exclusive early in it’s development because Core couldn’t get the green light from Sony for a PlayStation release.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว

      Well, it was actually released first on Saturn, albeit only two weeks before the PlayStation (and DOS) version. I imagine the Saturn release may have been delayed whilst the PlayStation version was made too.

  • @davidhiram8045
    @davidhiram8045 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your channel it's awsome!

  • @MadChristoph
    @MadChristoph ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I didn't even know Tomb Raider was on the Saturn, but I will say it is pretty good

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Original and best version. Released 2wks before other versions.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@goatlpsfunny cause the Saturn only had the first part but didn’t have the hardware to run its sequels

    • @jetfrog4574
      @jetfrog4574 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DisasterMaster3K The Saturn was the superior 3D machine of its generation.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jetfrog4574 thats why they only released the first tomb raider game and not the sequels?

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jetfrog4574 you might want to rethink your comment. The Saturn only had the first tomb raider game. The hardware couldn’t handle the 2nd or 3rd game.

  • @sonicthejetsetbeat7465
    @sonicthejetsetbeat7465 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    They both look good but the Saturn version on the loading screen all i gotta say is "Woohoooohhh, Laura!"

  • @miguelroman4294
    @miguelroman4294 7 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I have both, to me the Saturn lighting is more fitting for the game. the PS1 has to many clipping seams and some colors are to bright for its own good however it has a bit less jaggies. to me the Saturn is the winner. imho.

  • @rinaldodaveiga
    @rinaldodaveiga 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    voltando em grande estilo!!!! \o/

  • @swafflemanish
    @swafflemanish 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Sega Saturn version is like someone trying to play the maximum settings on a system that can't do it. The textures are actually better, and there is more detail on the character models and the environments. The colors are also richer. It does start out darker, but people don't realize that you can adjust the gamma settings and it becomes identical lighting wise to the playstation version. The only crime it commits is a lower frame rate, but it is perfectly playable. I have no issues with the controls on the Saturn version. Also, some transparency stuff is missing, but there are some cool water effects on the Saturn that aren't on the other ones.

  • @iwanttocomplain
    @iwanttocomplain 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    To my eyes the Saturn has richer and more vibrant colours with wider range of tones. The big difference, to me is that the PS1 version has black lines appearing in-between polygons which happens all the way through. This makes the Saturn version far superior in presentation and feel like a more polished product. Also, I think the textures warp more on the PS1 version.
    I'm starting to form the opinion that the Saturn, with the proper understanding of how to use it's vdp's, is the more powerful 3d system than the PS1.

    • @kakaszka7236
      @kakaszka7236 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      it's darker because is clipping... the graphics render in close proximity and the rest is dark.... this is your "more vibrant colours" :P They had to save texture and give black instead of textures everywhere. But it's best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. That's what all saturn fanboys do all the time. As if the video from the game were inverted "deliberately" you would talk the opposite way. *You always say that to fit your thesis* This is pathetic..........
      Real players are not stupid. They just saw what saturn games look like and that's why they chose the rival sony consoles. I remember that nobody wanted to buy then because there were only poor quality games, mostly *"for 5 minutes"*
      To this day, sega can't make good games. All weak ... Where are the fanboys? why are you not fiercely defending modern games from sega? Because they suck .... Always and everywhere .... forever!!!!

    • @Haganeren
      @Haganeren 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@kakaszka7236 Whoa whoa whoa....
      And here i though the Nintendo vs Sega war could be heated... Be more calm about what you say, everything is 25 years behind us now... And nobody would ever worked on the Saturn is still there to make game at Sega nowadays so that's just uncalled for.
      And yes, the Saturn always had a cleaner 3D than the PSX... ( inb4 Spyro ) Which is normal since the PSX does not warp texture for pleasure, it does in order to gain more power and be a better 3D console. If the two screens were inverted, i would have been very surprised.
      I don't think the Saturn could have handled Tomb Raider 3 with its clean but expensive 3D though.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@kakaszka7236 LOL a fanboy still crying about this? Get a grip - it's decades ago! The PlayStation was clearly the better console, and it's known the Saturn was difficult for developers. However, for whatever technical reasons, and despite the lower resolution, the colours and contrast of the Sega version suit the game more, as the darkness gives the tombs more atmosphere - which was what the games were all about.
      Neither consoles are as good as an Xbox.

    • @orderofmagnitude-TPATP
      @orderofmagnitude-TPATP ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Virtua fighter 2 compared to tekken2/3 , powerslave/exhumed compared to powerslave/exhumed PlayStation. Last bronx, panzer zwei, - virtua cop2 compared to time crisis, alien trilogy- same as ps1 but not even using the second processor. I could name plenty more, then there's the 2D games that aged far more gracefully. Yeah saturn was the more powerful machine by actually quite a bit. Only 3rd party ports suffered.
      On the caveat though - you know how to code it as it wasn't in c++

    • @costumeninja1914
      @costumeninja1914 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@orderofmagnitude-TPATPI agree 💯

  • @geminielectro
    @geminielectro ปีที่แล้ว

    At 11:13, it's interresting to see the difference between square textures on Saturn and triangle textures on PS. On the right of the SS video, we can see the square wall texture turned into a triangle. On this frame, PS version looks better.

  • @LeoStrife
    @LeoStrife 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    A versão Saturn tem melhores efeitos na água, na versão PSX não há distorção causada pela água, só presente na versão Saturn, as cores são mais vivas no Saturn, mas a versão PSX conta com mais polígonos e fps mais constantes.
    Mas ambas ficam muito aquém do que se consegue na versão PC rodando em Glide... e se colocar os mods então...

    • @sheltontristania
      @sheltontristania 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      Leo Strife comparar Saturn e Psx com PC é meio complicado, fora isso, concordo com tudo que tu disse.

    • @HielUFF
      @HielUFF หลายเดือนก่อน

      La versiond e saturn tiene mas carga poligonal que la de ps1

  • @ppgranja3
    @ppgranja3 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    O jogo esta bem mais bonito no PS1, e cada TR depois desse ainda foi ficando mais bem feito...

  •  7 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have both versions, I like both, water on Saturn is way better than the PSX version but the PSX version looks smoother overall, a little bit less dark but it's not a big deal for me.

    • @tiffanylee3866
      @tiffanylee3866 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Rodrigo González I totally agree with you the Saturn's colors are prettier to me but the PlayStation textures are way smoother, but tbat doesn't make a difference when I am playing

    • @k4rec4
      @k4rec4 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Looks like a matter of taste then. The underwater section is the worse aspect on Saturn version in my opinion. It's hard to even perceive that Lara is in the water. It's like the programmers tried hard to make the water transparent, but in the end became pretty dulled. For me it seems that she could've been floating around with zero gravity instead of swimming. 😊

  • @shuckylad
    @shuckylad 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Think the game launched first on the Saturn

  • @Mr_x_19922
    @Mr_x_19922 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I played both versions, the frame rate in the saturn version seems slower, and the textures have better quality on the psx version., the saturn version has brighter colors

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Saturn was also incapable of transparencies, which is why the water effects look much better on the PS1.

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I feel the water was better on the Saturn. The save Crystals looked better on PlayStation.

    • @Mr_x_19922
      @Mr_x_19922 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@steveo5174 Agree, crystals were render in 3D, and Satrun had a hard tiem doing that

    • @ultimonivel328
      @ultimonivel328 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes, Saturn framerate is horrible

    • @ThePolicenaut
      @ThePolicenaut 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rocket1377 The saturn can do transparencies but apparently its not so easy and the water effects look better on the saturn to my eyes

  • @FerrariCarr
    @FerrariCarr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The graphics seem more chattery in the Sega version, and Lara’s home is called “Gym” (small nitpick) and her feet sound effects are that of her normal boots. 😂

  • @RetroGames4K
    @RetroGames4K 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    I prefer the textures and color on the playstation, but both good versions.

  • @angrymobsters1599
    @angrymobsters1599 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    4:46- 4:54 the only way to truly define which one is better.

  • @rafinhasr31
    @rafinhasr31 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Mto bacana, sou fã desse canal

  • @raydenedge4569
    @raydenedge4569 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Me quedo con la versión original, la de Saturn. La de Psx salió un tiempo después y obviamente mejoraron algunos detalles, pero no era lo mismo. Lo que me provocó cuando jugué por primera vez en la Saturn fue glorioso! Me hubiera encantado ver el 2 también. Lástima que sony compró la exclusividad por unos años

  • @mikeeone5649
    @mikeeone5649 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Saturn has better draw distance , lighting , and water effects.They are both so similar though thats just nit picking.
    I for one never did like tomb raider.I actually rented this for my sega saturn played it once , and went back to Guardian heros and Ultimate mortal kombat 3 lol.
    If you wanted 3-d adventure the 64 was the way to go. Man I will tell you one thing sitting here thinking about everything people who grew up in the 80s and got to see the biggest change in video games.We went from single screen games .To scrolling games on the Nes .Then we saw that beefed up with the Genesis and SNES .Then we also saw the first 3-d polygon games for home system.Virtua racing and star fox lol.
    Then we went to the 32 bit /64 bit era. We saw the 64 make old things new again in 3-d. We got to see almost arcade perfect ports on the Saturn and Playstation.Even if they were lacking just a tad in something .I could rarely tell lol.

  • @blabo6427
    @blabo6427 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I have the two versions and in PS1 the game look way better but the control response in Saturn wins.

  • @bradleyhifi8155
    @bradleyhifi8155 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    ps1 has better res but sega Saturn gaphics are better because it has better 3d polygon than ps1

  • @ciredecgellar8232
    @ciredecgellar8232 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    loving the Saturn don't mean "be not objective" the PS1 version is smoother, the framerate is better. Tomb Raider is a good game in both system, technically quickly surpass by others games in both either, but visually, the PS version is better.

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ciredec Gellar what are you even talking about, PlayStation can't even keep the vertices they blink and even fall apart, holes everywhere! PlayStation has better sound & that's about it, everything else is worse

    • @ciredecgellar8232
      @ciredecgellar8232 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@jamespong6588 the Saturn version isn't bug free either. Although the Playstation version has a big aliasing problem and the perspectives corrections are nonexistent. However, the textures are still finer, I'm not saying that the difference is huge, but it's overall smoother.

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      ciredec Gellar I think it all comes down to what we experienced as a child,
      Stay safe bud!

  • @lurkerrekrul
    @lurkerrekrul 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Going solely by this video, the graphics on the PS1 version look cleaner with less jaggies, but it has more obvious texture seams.

    • @benwyatt7619
      @benwyatt7619 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Huffington The sound effects are noticeably worse on the Saturn with a lower bitrate, crackling and popping. The colours on the PlayStation are a. Bit better.

    • @benwyatt7619
      @benwyatt7619 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      John Huffington Okay so the colours may be a subjective thing but the sounds on PlayStation most definitely have a higher bitrate and that is fact.

  • @DerTypausBielefeld
    @DerTypausBielefeld ปีที่แล้ว

    Non of the console versions back then were ever comparable to pc version, for the were just shrunk down versions of the original game. It was like forcing you to play your game on the lowest settings. But this point aside, I never expected that: I actually slidly favor the Play Station version, just for one reason, the look in the distances is not as appealing as it was in both the pc and Play Station version. Everything else was a bit better on the Saturn, but this and the fact that it was sometimes to dark made the Play Station version surperior.

  • @Rafael_Francisco
    @Rafael_Francisco 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PSX was better for 3D games, his polygons are smoothier. But I prefered Saturn visuals underwater.

  • @fafling
    @fafling 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nothing like a Tomb Raider versus video to start the 32-bit console war all over again, right ?

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +1

      You were wrong - no console war occurred in the comments. It's clear that the PlayStation was the better console, but the colour contrast on the Saturn version suited this game's atmosphere more. The obvious resolution difference wasn't as important then, with the Atari 2600 still in gamers' memories. Nowadays fanboys compare console resolutions and frame-rates that the human eye can't actually perceive during play LOL.

  • @facanacaveira22
    @facanacaveira22 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Lembro que a gente comentava na escola : "gráfico realista pra c@ar@lho" kkkkk hoje em dia é até difícil de jogar .

  • @ailtonpassos9020
    @ailtonpassos9020 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excelente já estou aguardando o tomb raider na versão Dreamcast vs ps1

    • @juliosouza1494
      @juliosouza1494 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aí fica difícil comparar já que o Dreamcast tem muito mais recursos que o PlayStation 1.

    • @ailtonpassos9020
      @ailtonpassos9020 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@juliosouza1494 a diferença é grande mas não é esmagadora, veja o spider man ps1 vs dreamcast.

  • @ViciousAlienKlown
    @ViciousAlienKlown ปีที่แล้ว

    I first played this game on the Saturn. and it actually looks and plays better than the PS1 version. I have the PS1 version....on my PSP.

    • @DisasterMaster3K
      @DisasterMaster3K 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Lol you must be joking

    • @ViciousAlienKlown
      @ViciousAlienKlown 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@DisasterMaster3K Pretty much, the Saturn version is choppier and grainy compared to the Playstation version. But it's how I first played the game.

  • @RieklinRideR
    @RieklinRideR 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    i prefer PS1 for more natural colors, Saturn has better view range tho

    • @WALDENSOFTWARE
      @WALDENSOFTWARE 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Isn't it the other way around?
      Saturn richer colors. PS1 more pale, but wider objects.

  • @Fabiogamer
    @Fabiogamer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Queria que você fizesse se possivel a comparação do Juiced 2 PS2 vs PS3 e XBOX 360 vs PS3 vs PC.
    Ninguem fez até agora comparação desse jogo no youtube e creio que tenha diferença de gerações!

  • @doomster706
    @doomster706 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I prefer the PS1 version, but this is a great looking game for the Saturn. It shows the 3D potential the system had when developers understood the hardware.

  • @wuffy8006
    @wuffy8006 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    now to move on to tomb raider 2 versions.

  • @Cong-j9k
    @Cong-j9k 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    There’s no transparency in the Saturn version but there’s water warping effects.

  • @matthewhaverly3108
    @matthewhaverly3108 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The PlayStation had a geometric polygon engine.. it's clear to see it's far less blocky and smoother looking on the PlayStation.. also PlayStation version had a better frame rate

    • @dylanhughes5435
      @dylanhughes5435 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't know what you're on about. The PS1 version has gaps between geometry and no Z buffer while the saturn version looks just like the PC version with lower resolution

    • @jamespong6588
      @jamespong6588 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Matthew Haverly vertices disappear blink and have HOLES!!

    • @Unethical.FandubsGames
      @Unethical.FandubsGames 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@dylanhughes5435 you are blind

  • @kamilciura7953
    @kamilciura7953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These both have different strengths, but I like Saturn version presentation a bit better. I may be mistaken, but it looks like it is running in a lower resolution? Still, the texture warping and polygon flickering issues are not as prevalent as on PS1. It does have crushed blacks, but better draw distance and underwater effects. No that I would go back to play any of these (Lara controls like tank in the PS1 era games), but from today's perspective, I'm simply more impressed by technical aspects of Saturn version.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I would still like a remaster of these games on modern consoles, to celebrate the 25th anniversary. I think if they did a bundle of all three trilogies (TR1-3, Legend-Anniversary-Underworld, and the 2013-18 reboot trilogy), it would sell really well.

    • @kamilciura7953
      @kamilciura7953 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rocket1377 to be honest, year 1996 was so exceptional in gaming and so many classics have came out back then, I'm amazed no company seemed to get an idea of remastering these for modern platforms in "25 year anniversary" manner so far.
      Imo 1996 was the single most important year in history of videogames.

    • @Reds-Retros
      @Reds-Retros 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yeah agreed, I overall prefer the look of the Saturn version, although I imagine the lack of flares in TR 1 would make the that version a bit more frustrating in the darker areas.

    • @goatlps
      @goatlps ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@Rocket1377 nobody needs the modern 'reboot' games remade. Firstly, they look and play fine. Secondly, they alienated the original's fanbase, as they had virtually nothing to do with Tomb Raider, tomb-raiding, or Lara Croft. The modern games are vastly technically superior, with much better gameplay, but they're just 3rd person shooters featuring a flat-chested girl - nothing's related to the appeal of the original. They just hijacked the licence to make money off the name, mostly.

  • @VocaloidFantasy
    @VocaloidFantasy 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Conseguiu arrumar seu HD?

  • @Alucard_BR
    @Alucard_BR 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A versão do ps1 percebesse que tem menos polígonos, as paredes são mais lisas e menos pixalizadas, a versão do Saturno tem mais quadrados

  • @bangerbangerbro
    @bangerbangerbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do I remember this chugging on saturn when watching videos a few years ago?

    • @Z64sports
      @Z64sports 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      It did at certain parts. Usually when there was lots of water or large objects but it otherwise ran fine. Even when slowdown happened it didn't make it harder to control really

    • @bangerbangerbro
      @bangerbangerbro 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Z64sports No I think it is the same but my standards must have lowered since then. It seems more playable when I play it now than I thought it did a few years ago.

  • @nattoze2195
    @nattoze2195 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Você ja pensou em trazer comparação entre Zelda Ocarina do N64 vs GameCube (ou Virtual Console do Wii).

  • @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951
    @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why doesn’t anyone talk about The Saturn? They kind of jump directly from Genesis to Dreamast

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The Saturn was a financial flop, as it was more expensive that it's competitors and had a terrible marketing campaign. A shame, because it had a bigger library of games than the Nintendo 64, and is an excellent console. I got mine cheap back in 1996 (it was reduced to a third of its original price in less than a year), and it is still one my favourite consoles of all time.

    • @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951
      @scottjohnnyhelgemoaune2951 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Rocket1377 that makes sense. But glad that you enjoy it😀👍

    • @steveo5174
      @steveo5174 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Saturn is what started Sega's downfall. I owned a Saturn when they first came out and I was always happy with my choice.
      The only reason I also bought a PlayStation was for Gran Turismo.

  • @DTM-Books
    @DTM-Books 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Looking at a TH-cam video today, it seems that both versions are nearly identical, with slight advantages to one system or another. Back in 1996, however, it wasn't even close. PSX stomped all over the poor Saturn. I don't remember finding any Saturn Tomb Raider fans back then. Today, the competition is a bit more even, but that's mostly because the technology is very outdated and people are more forgiving of any visual faults.
    Short, short version: Saturn TR has longer draw distance, sharper color contrast and cool water distortion effects. Playstation has smoother colors, better shading and a higher framerate (30 vs 20 fps). Either way, it's a classic videogame that is a bit rough on the eyes, but still has its charms. There's that sense of isolation and just being lost in the middle of nowhere that's quite thrilling. I'm reminded a little of Minecraft in that sense. Yeah, that's where TR needs to go, not towards bad action movies, but Minecraft. Let's see Lara Croft square off against the Creepers.

  • @parazels83
    @parazels83 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Water and textures are miles better on Saturn.

  • @cameroonya1
    @cameroonya1 7 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Very good 3d for the Saturn.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Nope. This is very weak for the console. Remember that Saturn its technically more powerful than the PlayStation. The issue was that was hard to develop for. But the 3D on the original saturn version is weak.

    • @Rocket1377
      @Rocket1377 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Fabricio Vega:
      You need to keep in mind that this game was developed for the PC, and ported to consoles. The PlayStation was capable of so much more as well. It's unfair to say that it looks bad on Saturn, when it wasn't built from the ground up using Saturn hardware. It still looks fantastic, and almost as good as the PS1 version.

    • @KrashyKharma
      @KrashyKharma 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Rocket1377 I don't know if we're watching the same video or not, but the Saturn version is consistently *way* better than the PSX version. The textures are way more detailed with significantly better lighting and color pallette. The PSX version looks super grayed out and bland a lot of the time. It's like the difference between Sonic Adventure for Dreamcast vs Gamecube, something got horribly lost in translation when it comes to shading and textures.
      I can't for the life of me see how yall are even considering which one is better and not seeing it as the Saturn

    • @ohjoshua67
      @ohjoshua67 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@KrashyKharma Well, The lighting on the Saturn isn't better than the PlayStation version. And the lighting is most likely due to the Transparencies.

    • @KrashyKharma
      @KrashyKharma 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ohjoshua67 Well, the lighting on the PS is ugly and bland, due to the brightness being way too high.

  • @nakano15
    @nakano15 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Graphically, PSX wins, now in matter of ambient lighting, Saturn wins.

  • @StuartRyde-uu1tx
    @StuartRyde-uu1tx 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To think this was going to be Rick Dangerous 3D.

  • @hababacon
    @hababacon 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Damn this game hasn't age well at all. At any rate, PS1 version seem slightly smoother, better FMV, and a bit brighter.

    • @retroboy-fh1ji
      @retroboy-fh1ji 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      What? This game its very playable imo. Maybe the graphics don't look good anymore, but the story, action and gameplay still are great

  • @h8GW
    @h8GW 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Huh, and here I thought the shimmering textures was a PSX thing......makes me glad I grew up with the N64, because I'm not sure I could've tolerated that.

  • @jetfrog4574
    @jetfrog4574 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Sega Saturn was the 3D beast of it's generation.

  • @sickpup820
    @sickpup820 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Saturn version for me, darker atmosphere.

    • @bensmith5288
      @bensmith5288 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Saturn has worse textures amd has a lower frame rate .. you are talking shit

  • @Solanuma
    @Solanuma 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love how you can see that the saturn controls kinda suck

  • @ritadoni17
    @ritadoni17 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    PSX is better in all ways..but in saturn version when you swim looks better

  • @DanielHaduniuk
    @DanielHaduniuk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Saturn has more clearlier visible, but much darker and sharper texture but much pixalated

  • @arciks11
    @arciks11 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I do like the darker look of Saturn version.

    • @kakaszka7236
      @kakaszka7236 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      it's darker because is clipping... the graphics render in close proximity and the rest is dark.... this is your *"the darker"* :P They had to save texture and give black instead of textures everywhere. But it's best to turn a disadvantage into an advantage. That's what all saturn fanboys do all the time. As if the video from the game were inverted "deliberately" you would talk the opposite way. You always say that to fit your thesis This is pathetic..........
      Real players are not stupid. They just saw what saturn games look like and that's why they chose the rival sony consoles. I remember that nobody wanted to buy then because there were only poor quality games, mostly "for 5 minutes"
      To this day, sega can't make good games. All weak ... Where are the fanboys? why are you not fiercely defending modern games from sega? Because they suck .... Always and everywhere .... forever!!!!

    • @arciks11
      @arciks11 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@kakaszka7236 I was a PS1 kid who never owned Tomb Raider, and when I finally played it on PC I hated it. If by some chance you're still such a diehard console warrior, grow up.

  • @parappatherapper4141
    @parappatherapper4141 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    To me, the Saturn version is almost unplayable nowadays, and I'm a big Saturn fan, but you cannot deny that it ran better on PS. That framerate in the Sega console is horrible, I just can't stand it.