Imagine it’s 40 degrees out blazing Sun, you’re in a tennis court blazed out of your mind with Ben degros and he starts asking you if you use bearing spacers
I use bearing spacers, but I don't crank the nut on to the washer. The reason I use them is so that when they connect from an impact it takes the stress off the core of the wheel. If you've ever had a wheel core out, you'll know what I mean.
Your basically intentionally warping if you don’t use spacers. What idiot would do that? I have 300 bearings that didn’t come with spacers. What morons do that? I buy Amazon spacers and washers because Powell makes nice bearings but are morons and cheap when it comes to adding spaces. Total disrespect to the consumer in my opinion.
Someone should come out with a spacer, washer, kingpin, and nut company. They could make spacers for all different types of wheels and have a search engine on their website for wheel brands, types, and sizes. They could make better nuts (thinner, stronger, and lock better) and make shorter kingpins (because of a thinner nut) for clearance and inverted kingpins for all different types of trucks. The company could also, later, come out with an all-around wheel shape that could be made for different companies and formulas. Rounded on the outside and sticking out to the point your axel nut doesn't get ground down and a have flat inside with a slight rounding on the corner, so you can slide into locking-in and getting-out easily. They could come in a variety of colors for each, too.
i would absolutely use spacers if they were as universal as they are meant to be. (im so drunk i can’t read so i hope this days what i mean for it to say.)
When you set the bearings and spacers up in first put them on the trucks you slightly over tightened them and that seats the bearing and the spacer into the wheel.... Then I back it off just a little bit to make it loose like you say so they spin faster...
Give Seismic Tekron bearings a try. I used to do the same with my old skateboard bearings. The Seismic Tekron bearings have a center core that extends a slight out of the exterior, eliminating the use of washers. The interior portion of the bearings make contact against the other bearing inside the wheel, which eliminates the use of bearing spacers. After a bit of riding the bearings run smooth and no gap is needed.
You guys are defeating the purpose of the spacer, it supposedly make the wheels and trucks basically 1 connected piece when you tighten the axle nut down and squeeze the washer-bearing-spacer-bearing-washer-hangar piece. When you back off and it’s looser it’s partially separated and makes the spacer meaningless
@@Nirvezz nah, that's not how washers work in this context. they're included primarily to reduce friction between the two contacting points of metal and simply extending the bearing doesn't fix that
The reason for bearing spacers is to prevent side loading the bearings when you put all your weight on the board when leaning. Ever side load an electric drill the bit won't stay concentric for long. Sorry I have a masters in mechanical engineering and I skateboard
Yeah but this is some pretty basic info. I work in a regular ass manufacturing job and i completely understood what you were talking about based on experience
trying to confirm im understanding this correctly... so when we put all our weight leaning when turning, the wheel deforms a bit and could potentially lead to dislodged or moved bearing (once the nut wiggles looser...)?
pop sheilds and use spacers, heat and the wheels geting wacked sometimes the wheels spin slow but once you start rolling they free up and the bearings will break in and just get better and better and you wont blow out your wheel core and your axles won't ever slip.
@@Swamberzdon’t. There is no performance reason to not run shields. They may sound a little cooler without shields, but who cares. Running shields helps keep dirt out, and helps keep lubricant in. Anyone who doesn’t run shields simply doesn’t understand bearings.
Spacers also minimise the amount of dirt that gets into the backs of the bearings (dirt that travels along the axle and into that void). In other news, how are you liking the Slappy trucks??
Spacers have saved my ass quite a few times. If you’ve ever ollied 6+ stairs before, and one of your bearing(s) break upon impact, the spacer will help to KEEP the board rolling, even on a busted bearing. If you break a bearing and don’t have a spacer in, your board is going to stop immediately and you’re going to eat concrete. In summary, always use spacers.
Groundbreaking... because most modern skaters do not use or understand or know this for the past 15-18 years at least.... I used bearing spacers in 1977 on my 0j superjuice.... And have ever since...
Would be interesting to hear your approach to using washers and if its something you pay much attention to. I have managed to find my goldilocks truck and deck combination (149 indy with 8.25) but I have been switching up with formula fours and a slimmer set of bones STFs do you tend you change the number and order of your washers depending on your setup? Enjoying the content as always keen up the good work!
I didn’t use spacers for a long time and started using them for the first time around last year they can feel great if they fit properly but I do think they do mess with your bearings a bit cause I’ve had to replace bearings a lil more often since I started
i would never run a wheel without spacers, thats pretty hard on the bearings, plus your nut may come undone on you. if the spaceer is too long just file it down a bit. not that its that necessary, most people probably prefer a slightly loose wheel as it them makes that nice sound with powerslides etc.
nope .it doesnt work for me.i never wore a rubbeer either.if shes that nasty i dont mess with it. they are always to big and the bearings dont sit right unless i torque them then i just addwd breaks.the spacer inside the wheel works fine i dont need nothing else never have
Naw fuck spacers I pop my bearing n and skate also every time I use spacers my bearing bust but I skate loose ass trucks n do a lot of wallie n combos so I think I’m jus rough on bearings naw mean
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Imagine it’s 40 degrees out blazing Sun, you’re in a tennis court blazed out of your mind with Ben degros and he starts asking you if you use bearing spacers
I would take Ben down the psychedelic wormhole of my spacer set up.
40° is freezing cold
@@Nile6o2Its celsius little bro… over 100 in Fahrenheit
@@Nile6o2 It depends. For example if your country use a Fahrenheit degrees, it’s cold, if celcium, then it is hella hot.
@@Nile6o2 theyre probably talking about Celsius
I use bearing spacers, but I don't crank the nut on to the washer. The reason I use them is so that when they connect from an impact it takes the stress off the core of the wheel. If you've ever had a wheel core out, you'll know what I mean.
Yeah first time it happened to me I didn’t even know that was a thing that could happen I was shocked lol.
Give seismic Tekron bearings a try. I use them on my cruising, pool and traditional trick board.
Your basically intentionally warping if you don’t use spacers. What idiot would do that? I have 300 bearings that didn’t come with spacers. What morons do that? I buy Amazon spacers and washers because Powell makes nice bearings but are morons and cheap when it comes to adding spaces. Total disrespect to the consumer in my opinion.
Ohhh is that parts of the wheel getting stripped?
@@sfsango8559 in what time stamp of the video?
Someone should come out with a spacer, washer, kingpin, and nut company. They could make spacers for all different types of wheels and have a search engine on their website for wheel brands, types, and sizes. They could make better nuts (thinner, stronger, and lock better) and make shorter kingpins (because of a thinner nut) for clearance and inverted kingpins for all different types of trucks.
The company could also, later, come out with an all-around wheel shape that could be made for different companies and formulas. Rounded on the outside and sticking out to the point your axel nut doesn't get ground down and a have flat inside with a slight rounding on the corner, so you can slide into locking-in and getting-out easily. They could come in a variety of colors for each, too.
nice idea bro :D (i read 3 words)
Will miss you, ben. Hope you enjoy whatever life brings.
Ben degros nut reveal 👍
i would absolutely use spacers if they were as universal as they are meant to be. (im so drunk i can’t read so i hope this days what i mean for it to say.)
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It days. 😂
God grant me the serenity to accept the things I cannot change, courage to change the things I can, and the wisdom to know the difference. 🎉😂
it says you aint a skater so quit posing you souse
Its days it very well
When tightening the wheels i usually leave some space, it makes the wheel spin faster
When you set the bearings and spacers up in first put them on the trucks you slightly over tightened them and that seats the bearing and the spacer into the wheel.... Then I back it off just a little bit to make it loose like you say so they spin faster...
Give Seismic Tekron bearings a try. I used to do the same with my old skateboard bearings.
The Seismic Tekron bearings have a center core that extends a slight out of the exterior, eliminating the use of washers. The interior portion of the bearings make contact against the other bearing inside the wheel, which eliminates the use of bearing spacers. After a bit of riding the bearings run smooth and no gap is needed.
You guys are defeating the purpose of the spacer, it supposedly make the wheels and trucks basically 1 connected piece when you tighten the axle nut down and squeeze the washer-bearing-spacer-bearing-washer-hangar piece. When you back off and it’s looser it’s partially separated and makes the spacer meaningless
@@Nirvezz nah, that's not how washers work in this context. they're included primarily to reduce friction between the two contacting points of metal and simply extending the bearing doesn't fix that
@@normified yeh anyway the seismic tekron does all thats needed without the need of bearing spacers and washers.
“The wheel can spin freely” yeah, but those bearings sound like they have been through some shit
That’s what happens when you take the shields off.
Poor decision.
@@internet_internet if you don't take them off they will eventually warp and bend and fall out anyway, making your wheel seize up.
@@internet_internet not true. seriously, try it :)
Enjoying these shorts Big Ben!
TH-cam shorts
I meant what you knew
The reason for bearing spacers is to prevent side loading the bearings when you put all your weight on the board when leaning. Ever side load an electric drill the bit won't stay concentric for long. Sorry I have a masters in mechanical engineering and I skateboard
Yeah but this is some pretty basic info. I work in a regular ass manufacturing job and i completely understood what you were talking about based on experience
@@Creeksmallmouth but in today's America I cannot assume people have common sense
@@kennethrand1032 yup that part
@@kennethrand1032makes sense
trying to confirm im understanding this correctly... so when we put all our weight leaning when turning, the wheel deforms a bit and could potentially lead to dislodged or moved bearing (once the nut wiggles looser...)?
pop sheilds and use spacers, heat and the wheels geting wacked sometimes the wheels spin slow but once you start rolling they free up and the bearings will break in and just get better and better and you wont blow out your wheel core and your axles won't ever slip.
Why pop shields?
@@Swamberzdon’t. There is no performance reason to not run shields. They may sound a little cooler without shields, but who cares.
Running shields helps keep dirt out, and helps keep lubricant in.
Anyone who doesn’t run shields simply doesn’t understand bearings.
I love them! ❤️ nice and quiet with my shock pads. 😊
Yeah I'm team spacer. I'm just glad we are having the concersation because some of the best pro skaters in the world don't know what spacers even are.
Spacers also minimise the amount of dirt that gets into the backs of the bearings (dirt that travels along the axle and into that void). In other news, how are you liking the Slappy trucks??
Meh. They aren’t for me.
@@bendegros THUNDERS lol
Well done
Slappy trucks? Looking forward to that review.
Appreciate your video🤙
It should prevent axle slip from primo impacts.
Spacers have saved my ass quite a few times. If you’ve ever ollied 6+ stairs before, and one of your bearing(s) break upon impact, the spacer will help to KEEP the board rolling, even on a busted bearing. If you break a bearing and don’t have a spacer in, your board is going to stop immediately and you’re going to eat concrete. In summary, always use spacers.
Can you do the same on a bearing press ?
Well done.
Ben can u do a video in depth with detail about the pros and cons of using more than 2 washers.
Groundbreaking... because most modern skaters do not use or understand or know this for the past 15-18 years at least.... I used bearing spacers in 1977 on my 0j superjuice.... And have ever since...
Would be interesting to hear your approach to using washers and if its something you pay much attention to. I have managed to find my goldilocks truck and deck combination (149 indy with 8.25) but I have been switching up with formula fours and a slimmer set of bones STFs do you tend you change the number and order of your washers depending on your setup? Enjoying the content as always keen up the good work!
I’ve popped bearings every time I’ve used the spacers
I didn’t use spacers for a long time and started using them for the first time around last year they can feel great if they fit properly but I do think they do mess with your bearings a bit cause I’ve had to replace bearings a lil more often since I started
Dont tighten it so much bro. Also, race reds have the washer and spacer already installed so it really does make one solid unit.
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i would never run a wheel without spacers, thats pretty hard on the bearings, plus your nut may come undone on you. if the spaceer is too long just file it down a bit. not that its that necessary, most people probably prefer a slightly loose wheel as it them makes that nice sound with powerslides etc.
If I had this video a year ago, I’d be so less confused 😂
The small washer are they important?
they're good if your a freeride longboarder who wants a smooth slide
nope .it doesnt work for me.i never wore a rubbeer either.if shes that nasty i dont mess with it. they are always to big and the bearings dont sit right unless i torque them then i just addwd breaks.the spacer inside the wheel works fine i dont need nothing else never have
What if I lost a washer
review of the slappy trucks please
I feel like they make to much contact and causes friction. My bone Swiss bearing were slower with them in an also were louder
Spaces are critical if you want to preserve the integrity of your bearings. Derp!🎉
Where do people keep getting these good quality blank decks?? Idk if CCS decks are still a thing but ive been curious
Just like a sportbike wheel.
Need a link bruh
No spacers,no washers and loose wheels for me😅
Just buy seismic Tekton bearings. They’re amazing. No need of spacers or washers. The center core is designed to have it all.
That’s what those things are??
Um, where is this full video you speak of? Which one of your videos is it?
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Lmao the first two comments is about people being way too intoxicated 😂
Slappyz
hanger and what
No no no its TWO fucking washers on the truck side. One on the nut
Put a link to the full video in the description next time I’m not looking for it on your channel that’s toomuch work for my lazy ass
Or just get race reds bearings
Just use zealous bearings
Im too heavy not to use spacers. My cores mushroom without and i ruin my wheels
hi dad
I ain’t trynna buy twice as many bearings for a problem that really doesn’t need to be fixed
dad
Spacers only make you slower. I never once used them in my skating
I’ve never used em Just extra weight
Makes to much contact. My Bones Swiss spin better without the spacer, tried and tested.
I never ever used these. Never had a problem.
Edit: guys just use bones bearings. Then you're straight. Reds and up.
I hate that extra weight
Lol that’s a lock washer
No it's not.
Dont use spacers at all, as in some wheels they are pointless......
Spacers wtf is that
Don't use them that's how you use them lmao
Don’t care
Never used em either
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Spacers never worked for me
Washers are a waste of time imo
Naw fuck spacers I pop my bearing n and skate also every time I use spacers my bearing bust but I skate loose ass trucks n do a lot of wallie n combos so I think I’m jus rough on bearings naw mean