Hi Angel, you think it would be possible making a simillar video of JDMs cars that actually stood affordable or became little cheaper? If that even possible. I've no clue about american market since im europian but it might be cool idea.
Sure, but I fear that would bring attention to underrated cars, which means clout chasers will see it, which means they'll get fucked after a few years too. This happened with certain SAAB and Volvo Sleeper models cause of my videos and Doug Demuro's videos on them. I legit feel kinda guilty too ngl. Also I prefer to be called Bladed or Bladed Angel. Not Angel only, since that sounds like a Male Stripper name lmfao.😂
It's sad to think that people my age, 17, will never be able to afford the cars of their dreams because of people just a few years older than them. I genuinely looked forward to owning a Miata for cheap, then moving to something cooler like a Skyline or an Evo when I could afford it. But now, I know that, until the inevitable crash years and years from now, prices will just keep going up, just out of reach for me, and many others.
Feel bad for you pal. My really dream car rn is only an old Civic coupe/hatchback. But being a car guy here is a challenge. I almost want to give up my dreams to own and modified an old civic ( i want to B swap it, turbo it , and AWD it for better traction).
Meanwhile there are Corvette C4's and C5's begging for you to pick them up for cheap. Hell, even a third gen MR2 has never been cheaper than it is now. There's always an option.
It really depends on what you’re into I suppose. I’m into the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s classics and I recently bought a 1977 Chevy 1 ton for 1,100. Sometimes you have to find a good deal and just roll with it. It may not be exactly what you want but I think it can still be fun. Prices for some vehicles are absolutely preposterous but I think most sellers are reasonable and aren’t always money hungry weirdos. I can say this though. Most of the larger known models of the that time like Camaros, Cornets, Bonnevilles, Trans Ams, etc. are definitely out of mine and others reasonable price range. So I guess I can see what your getting at but second hand sellers can also be an option.
And here, iam gonna buy Civic LX (a Lame ass 4 door civic) into coupe/hatchback one. Since buy a fucking 2 door car in Indonesia is stupidly expensive. And tax more Again, You snob collector can collect all those car, but us car guys will always win.
Cars in general are hella inflated. I’m seeing V6 camaros and mustangs from the 90s with high mileage going for over 5K which is ridiculous. I remember when you could pick these things up for like $1500 in decent condition
It honestly breaks my heart to see these prices shoot up in value like there's no tomorrow. For the longest time I've always wanted an Evo 9 and when i saw a semi decent one going for 50k i felt my heart drop. I looked at other jdm cars and i see that they have absurd prices as well. At this point i wanna give up on jdm cars.
Tbh same sh is happening with me, the only difference being a slight age difference probably. I gave up on the NSX as soon as i checked the prices, then i became an Integta DC2 fanboy for a while, but now they're 20k+ € (about 25k $ or so), and the situation is the same with literally every well known 80s-90s Japanese sports car. Euro is appreciating at a much slower rate, but is still painful to see a Golf GTi selling for 27k€/33k$. At this point im beginning to fall in love with older base model BMWs for the 2nd time, except this time it's not for the "aggressive" looks my 9yo self loved them for, but rather affordability, as 1980-2000 base model 3- and 5 series Bimmers are mostly under 10k, and some titles can go as low as 2000, while still being pretty well maintained. If the prices stay down im planning to get an 80s 5 series rn.
@@shiftffs Yeah a lot of my friends are starting to shift to older base model euros (Boxster, 335i, etc0 or even 90s Muscle (Trans Am WS6, SVT Cobra, etc.). Anything that is super badge or brand recognizable has been ruined by clout culture. Like the price it costs to buy an M3 over a 335i...ngl, I wouldn't blame people for picking the 335i. People used to call Base Model Cars Poverty Spec, but not our fault these MF's think people are stupid enough to cough up ALMOST DOUBLE the prices they were 5 years ago.
@@BladedAngel Wait SVT Cobras are cheap over the sea? And prolly the most painful thing out of this is seeing my own generation both skyrocket prices for virtually every well known car, and literally ruin both the prices and the cars themselves for future generations. And ofc times change and most companies are focused on hatchbacks and "safe" fwd off-road looking as- vehicles (SUVs), and they no longer supply parts for their classic titles, which might even result in some cars becoming super rare, or even extinct (or im just overthinking things. Sorry, it's something i do way too often.)
I got my 9 at auction for 37k in really good condition last year in July. It's honestly sad to see that even beat up ones that used to be less than 20k are worth over 30k now. It's definitely tough to get a nicer one now but with the way things are going (prices continuing to rise and gas cars possibly being completely done away with by 2030) I would say getting one now is the best thing you can do. Obviously I have no idea what your financial situation is and everyone is different when it comes to what's "worth it" but that's just my two cents. From an Evo owner and long time Evo fan, I really hope you're able to get one someday man.
@@BladedAngel I can say I remember wanting to buy a R32 GTR in 2018 when I got my driving license and a clapped out one would go for 17-20k and as soon as 2020 you could find them for 35
I feel like we are getting to the point where a lot of people are going to have to start going after the more obscure cars (like the Dodge Stealth over the 3000GT or Saturn Sky over the Miata) if they want something semi-affordable. It really seems like the days of cheap sports cars are coming to an end which sucks for the common enthusiast who can't afford to buy a 20k plus car, mod and maintain it, and deal with the other expenses in life. I really hope the prices do eventually come down so these cars can be owned and loved by everyone again and not just the guys who use them for Insta clout or whatever.
Definitely. I see the Ford Probe gens going up in price soon. Rare car, Mazda Engine and Internals, tuneable. I own a Probe GT Turbo and I bet these will double or triple their price just because ThEY hAVe a tuRBo.
This was always bound to happen. People that were in there childhood when these cars came out are finally becoming able to afford them, and they’re paying up for them! Same thing happened with 60’s and 70’s muscle cars in the early 2000’s, and that seemed just as ridiculous at the time. However, these cars will never go all the way down to where they were 5-7 years ago. They will settle, but never fall down that much, with our now inevitable EV future ruling out manual stick shift drivers cars being made in the future
I recently bought a Miata for like 6K USD and it's honestly sad seeing the prices rise so much because in the future they will no longer be an affordable sports car anymore. I mean, it's technically good for me because my car is gaining value but I kinda want another one in the future. I've been bitten by the Miata bug so I will also lose money as the value rises lol
@@beautifulbeaner It was a great price for today's market because it's a one of 151 colour and it's in brand new condition but it's true that I could've gotten a similar car for much less a few years ago. The market is properly crazy, I wonder at what point people will stop paying more and more for them
@@theyeetus1428 I want to build a race car and race it in the Swedish MX-5 Cup (basically our version of Spec Miata). I also want a Miata to drive on the street which is what I want my current one to be. Instead of compromising by trying to keep a race car competitive while also being comfortable on the street I think it's best to have two cars, one for each situation
Kinda curious. Do you think the car market will ever crash in a similar way the housing market crashed in 2008? I ask since cars are getting more and more expensive, more and more people will need to take loans out on the car and some will not be able to pay it back.
For sure. Everyone needs a place to live, but not everyone needs a car. If a recession happens, then clout bois can't make payments, which means they'll flood the market fast n cheap to recoup money. Just like foreclosure, but with cars
@@BladedAngel good god let it be soon. I lost my car back in October and im trying to save up money to buy another one, but current market rn is telling me to hold off
@@svn5994 I got one for you. The car market inflation has over extended into practical cars. Here in Ohio, a 2005 Honda Civic with 300,000 miles sells for 6,000. Im sorry but the crack your smoking must be great if you think ill spend 6,000 on a car that may be on its last 2 months
the whole gasonline car market will crash before 2030 since then only ev can be sold it either skyrockets the price for gas cars or its crashes it. sorry for poor english i wished too that the netherlands would have colonzed the world instead of united kingdom would have made it easier for me ;)
Clout is one hell of a drug. You don't build a car to satisfy your fragile ego and your followers, no, it's your car, do what you want, for your own enjoyment. Even I as a teenager is sick of this clout culture stuff. And why is it that most of them always pick Japanese cars??? I fear that when I'm an adult, the cars that my generation loved so much aren't very obtainable anymore. Can we please stop chasing clout? Also, how's the Miata?
And why is it that most of them always pick Japanese cars? because theyre easier and cheaper to work on and you get a lot more for your money than you do with german or american cars. At least when it comes to the popular cars.
@@ndk2k4 In a lot of cases, that's true. Yes American cars are also not very expensive but they're not as reliable as the Japanese cars. You do be spitting facts
@@AKseorangmanusia Depends. I have tons of footage on this channel from Lanier Raceplex or GridLife Road ATL and I have the audio muted since it's a commentary...but if I unmuted the audio _Literally all you would hear would be Corvette noises. Over half of them are LS Swapped because they blew up their Japanese motors_ It's one thing to think/say something on the internet. It's another thing to actually talk with the owners who walk the walk and see what actually works. Of course reliable Japanese Engines like 2JZ, Rb26, and the K-series engines would do fine...but people want AN ARM AND LEG for those engines. "Cause drift tax bro". So naturally, when people bought S-chassis (Like S14s and beyond) they started to show/street build it and I don't even blame them. With the insane prices they're buying them for, why risk breaking the car? But that's TRAGIC when you consider that's what the car is made for. To track, to drift, to drive, to love, to mod, to enjoy. But nah, they sit at shows flexing instead.
JDM cars are loved for being cheap, easy to work on and mod and just being straight up great and randoms like me and you can get. That is no longer the case they are insanely expensive (most of them being the iconic ones and the ones everyone would want). They are so expensive you are better of buying Luxury cars or sports cars it's actually ridiculous
I agree, JDM cars were sought after for it's affordability and tuning capabilities in the first place.. Right now,you might as well get a supercar/ other non JDM cars for the same price
People say supply and demand as a catch-all. But it's not prices I'm complaining about per se, more like the how high and how fast they went up is kinda sus
I think it's a bubble which will blow up soon, I guess investing alot of money in a expansive car just for making profit might not work out, may be. I would by my dream car regardless of price.
@@beluga2857 "I would buy my dream car regardless of the price" if you are bloody fucking rich, sure, but most car guys are not rich enough to have money for a 100k car, because they also need money for their families, a house etc. etc. and let's be honest, most of them would need to save up for like 15 - 20 years to have 100k dollars.
I wouldn't sleep on those... At that price, even if the engine straight up quits on you, you've got a hell of a fun car to put a new/rebuilt engine into (for a few grand more of course)
Was watching a video shot in late 2021 with RE-Amemiya's founder where he said RX8 prices have started to rise in Japan. Same thing is happening here in the US. With the Series 2 RX8 engine being more reliable or going the route of an LS, LSX or K swap, these cars will start to get more second looks.
The E92 m3 is one of my main dream cars and they have literally doubled in price. You could get a PRISTINE example for no more than 35k back in 2016 -2018 and now they range from 60k to 70k. You can get an older higher mileage one for around 30k today.🙃
Hmm, here in UK they haven't increased anywhere near as much, e90/E92 prices start at only 10 to 15k for high mileage examples, lower mileage is between 25k to 35k, the most expensive e92 M3 I can see is costing £36k
@@blitz4387 The 335i is also a good option to look out for. With Downpipes & Software + maybe an intercooler (if tuning is allowed where you live) you can push the same HP figures as the M3. And with the benefit of it beeing Turbocharged instead of naturally aspirated you can add more boost too (if needed). The only thing you dont get would be the Carbon fiber roof.
all of the sporty vq platforms have gone up substantially in my area, in 2017 you could get a clean hr 350 for 6-7k and a g35 for 5-6k. now it is hard to find any clean examples of either for under 10k
Yeah. I managed to get lucky with my 07 model. Under 100k miles, Daytona Blue, 6MT, Enthusiast Trim Coupe. No mods other than a BT Stereo, Backup Camera and skinnier tires (40 aspect instead of 45). Bought it off some kid who lost his job as the pandemic hit for $9k
@@MagnumLoadedTractor You mean cars in general? I know how great and amazing it would be for places to be oriented towards people but I wouldn't prefer having cars banned.
R32 went for about 10,000-30,000 depending on mileage, import status, and condition/rust/resto status’. Import fees not included! I was looking for a long time but gave up in 2019 when they jumped five grand or so… 😂 if only I knew what I know now
@@Joshua_N-A that’s a really good question and I’m not sure. I feel like it was the GTR but if that’s an egregious underpricing then I probably would have been fine with the GTST
R32 gtr you could’ve been able to get one for under 10k like I saw a think that showed some prices of jdm cars in 2012 I think and there was a r32 gtr for $3800 and a youtuber I watch said don’t know how many years ago but he said someone offered him his r33 gtr for $6000
@@Joshua_N-A R32 GT-Rs could be had all day for less than 20k in the States for the first couple years they were legal. Now every importer around me lists them for 60k plus. The market is crazy
@@MrDoom879 not to mention Nissan only produce them from 1989 to 1994, it's longer than the other 2 and the most numerous GT-R made at 43K units of all variants.
That's why I'm saving up for a certain 30 year old car from Stuttgart or something like a BMW 635CSi or Audi 100 S4. People haven't really realized their value yet, despite being still very capable today
Lots of German and American cars are still under appreciated. If people really wanted GTST skylines then mustangs would be an apt replacement. Or if they want JZ sedans USDM gs350 and E46 sedans are just as good. People just love buzz words and “jdm culture” when the culture was only to buy what was available and usable 😣
I bought my 2011 sti for 14k USD and shortly after I started seeing them in the mid 20s with double the miles mine had. I guess I got one just it time.
Yeah I bought a 2010 sti special edition with 130k miles for 18.6k before tax n license a couple months ago. Really good deal because these cars are goin for like 20-25+ grand and they are modded with mileage 😹 smh ive even seen a 2007 with like 80k miles for like 35 large like damn
@@lilark4201 fr tho high mileage isn’t even cheap anymore. Mine had 93k km when I bought it and there was a 2014 with 33k km for 25k as well. If it were today that 2014 would be at least 40k (CAD)
That's my favorite gen of the WRX/STI but at that age I'm unconformable trusting it. (Bought a '20 instead) Did you guys just take the chance that the engine's been messed with, or did you know the previous owner or have a Subie expert look at it before you bought it?
@@nthgth my car still has warranty and I could tell by looking at it that the previous owners did nothing except a muffler delete. If the warranty was voided or expired I probably would’ve hesitated on buying it. Also had pretty low miles at 93k km or 56-58k ish miles.
Saddens me that Clout culture has caused some of these classic Jdm cars to be destroyed just because they can’t take care of them or end up crashing them because they can’t handle their power
As a younger car enthusiast who still hasn’t even bought his first car this really sucks , most of the cars I love are rising to the point of luxury car levels or more , and even cheap beginner car enthusiast cars have gone way up so much to where I probably won’t get my first enthusiast car for a few years , and because of the pool being small I’m also scared of getting something too nice and crashing it , therefore reducing the pool
Yeah dude... I'm 16 right now and sold my 1984 Mustang GT for 2300 after buying it for 1800, it was actually really nice but I was too early. I wanted another one but the prices have pretty much tripled on them too... Very sad
Bought a RX8 in 2020 for 6k. It had 98k on the body and 50k on the engine. The car was kept up with and taken care of. I didn't mind paying that price for such a nice car as it's hard to find RX8s in good condition
@@redroseandre5225 yeah, I'm surprised by the price of RX8s now. People are trying to sell their RX8s with over 100k+ miles on the original engine for near 6k 😬
Few years ago I was like, all right, no money for now, but I'm gonna work hard make some and buy one of these in a few years. Now I got my target money from few years ago and started looking and omg... I am just so sad. At one point I was like okay, no JDM then, but what about the others? And this basically happened to every good hobby car. With older BMW-s and other germans, italians (never seen Alfas go for so much money... wtf...) And as you said it is not like I don't have the money at all, it just hurts to give 10k for an e36 held up only by rust with 200k and a shady background when you have a family, a life and you can do a lot more with that kind of money. Seems like having a nice hobby car is a serious luxury now... Right before we go full electric and hobby cars disappear completely... What a time to live...
I don't think hobby car disappear and ev are crap, too expensive, have short range, and hard to find replacement part for the body and battery are expensive too, they dangerous if you in the flood you be shocked to death by electricity or in winter time you get frozen to death because the electric car is out of electricity because use up the heater and music, so yeah my guess keep work hard as you can but be smarter too just in case.
Damn bro. That's actually sad. You're not the only one, but legit this car market is just stupid af rn. No one could've predicted this sh*t. From chip shortage, to Covid, and to the rise of CLout Culture. It all combined to this BS we're stuck with. Stay strong man. Remember people are always more valuable than a hunk of metal and plastic. Like for real. Some MF's want way too much for their hunks of metal and plastic these days. But taking care of people you love will always be priceless. Someday I hope it turns around for you and you can take care of yourself too and got some dream car you've always wanted. We can only cross our fingers this market crashes, then these MF clout chasers can't make payments and start liquidating their assets at BLOWOUT prices since no one was smart enough to save, so they all sell, sell, sell, and flood the market. Then people who saved up like you and me, can FINALLY snipe a car we've always wanted. I will land me a Dodge Viper and First Gen NSX someday. I swear this sh*t is insane. But I ain't giving up hope, I'll hold up and hold my cash til these mf's bank can't hold their loans anymore.
@@unknowntruth8919 i dont think an electric car will electrocute you in a flood, and I think that you'd have bigger worries about being in a flood. EV prices will drop eventually with faster manufacturing processes and more companies catching up in the EV race. The range will get sorted, as many EVs can already do 400+ miles (think 20 gallon tank doing 20 mpgs.. not bad) and will continue to get better. Replacement parts for the body of an EV isn't an issue I see brought up often, but with more EVs being produced, there will be more EV panels. Batteries are very expensive like you said, and it might take a while for that issue to be solved; one of the biggest gripes of myself, and other car enthusiasts is that self-repairs or even 3rd party repairs are difficult. The manufacturers want to control the right to repair, similarly to Apple with their phones. With Apple constantly being forced to walk back on their right to repair policies, I think auto manufacturers will have to follow suit. If your gas car runs out of gas, you will also freeze (your statement here doesn't make much sense.) The biggest commercial issue with EVs as of now is the infrastructure for readily available charging ports hasn't been adopted, but it will be in the next 10-20 or so years. With the EU committing to banning ICE cars from the road in the next 10-15 years, there will be a boom in EVs. We can't blindly cast the new technology aside and be ignorant about its potential. But we sure can be mad that the ICE will be getting replaced in our lifetimes. Hobby cars might not disappear, but they won't be getting any cheaper. Not in the long haul anyway.
@@OscarHernandez-jk5nc the biggest issue is governments forcing the people to only buy EV junk without option. Price for gas cars will continue to raise, and your only option in the future will be an unreliable battery on wheels.
Yeah there are so many cars that I would love to own (even just one of them) but as a 16 year old with no steady job at the moment, that doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen 2000 svt cobra, ‘69 302 boss, ‘99 skyline gt-r r34, ‘82 trans am, ‘02 trans am WS6, ‘69 charger, etc. so many sick cars that I probably won’t be able to afford....
two years ago, i was pumped cos examples of my dream car, a Z31 300ZX, were going for prices low as 8K and it seemed super attainable for me. now, just two years on, they're selling for over 20K and i question myself whether it's even worth it anymore. another dream car of mine was a 240SX, seeing drift guys like haruguchi and itoh ripping silvias on track made me want to slide around in one for myself. now the cleanest of the 240's sell for upwards of 30K...
why would you want to buy a clean / stock one, if u r planning to build a drift car? you would need to upgrade substantial parts either way so you could go with a cheaper one
@@karlobrutalo425 even trashed ones sell for 8K upwards. i'd rather a clean one because most of them have already mods like rollcages and cut fenders with flares, those are irreversible. many also have a lot of rust and other problems that could terminally endanger the car.
Last time I went to the Car meet I've talked a lot of JDM car owners and most of them told me that buying one is like "meeting your childhood hero" and its often dissapointing For example the Supra owner, he had the car bone stock like 0 mods, just changed the suspension and that's it and even then he said that he car was waay to rought to use it as daily car despite a lot of youtubers made videos saying that its one of the best daily jdm sportscars. I can't even imagine one modified how bad it will run as daily. And the most of the discomfort comes from the clutch and gear shifter. The MR 2 turbo owner said that every time he takes the car out of garage, the car try to kill him. The Miata owner ( NA and NB mostly) that the car is horrible as daily car, not because of the soft or hard top (which people expect) but the suspension and how low you're to the ground. And in the highway a lot of people don't see you and its very dangerous. He said that the car is more as weekend toy for the mountain roads, rather than a car for the highway or city. Surprisingly every european sportscars owners were using their cars as daily and they were really happy with it. So for me, in conclusion, JDM sportscars are way more radical and are very hard to use as daily despite the reliability. Of course there is excepcions. Some excepcions: Honda S2000, NSX and Type R are perfectly fine as daily driver. And Mercedes AMG cars, specially the Black Series ones are way too radical for daily driver. That said, I still love JDM sportscars but for me, most of them are overvalued. I think if we take the half of the value of current inflated JDM cars they can be a good buy, but as it is now its a No, no for me. Unless you're a dead fan of certain JDM car, its better to stay away from it. I rather buy Ek 9 swap it to b18 than buy a type R. I will save around 20k $ which is a lot and can be used for modifications. Also if you are gona buy a special car like those, its better to leave them stock, at least for me.
I found a few R32 GTRs and GTSTs going for about 20-35k (USD, and in my area) in 2018, maybe 2019. I looked at them recently, and most of them are around 30-50 (nationwide), maybe more. I also remember e46 M3s were about 10-15k. Now they’re 15-30.
It could always be one of those scams where two people who are part owners of an auction buy from each other to inflate the precieved value of a car to drive up overall sale prices. Not pointing any fingers but who would actually pay that much?
@@BladedAngel that's from auction in Japan other day. But, normal V-spec is okay. At least you can get a Motorex GT-R R34. That's a only legal way to owned the R34 GT-R.
Looking here living in japan there are 300gt for 14k and lower. Ive seen some for 20k but no more than that. Also looking at jzx100 prices here, I thought you would add that price change as well. Thats the car I need.
@@Sleepy_Moon84The sad part for me is I didnt have the money to get the car I wanted 5 years ago. Now the prices even here are skyrocketing. Im watching them go up 5k a month here in japan and 10k in the states. Hopefully I can get one before it too expensive to get
I remember looking for cars back in '17, when I was still in high school, deciding if I should get a job and buy something nice on the cheap, as well as decide what my dream car will be. What I had planned for was a late 90's Toyota T100 V6 Manual 4WD, something that had a big bed, not too big as a truck, and towed 5k lbs, and those with 150k-300k mi would be anywhere between 3-8k. Now, they are 5k (for 320k mi), up to 17k, averaging around 12k. Cherokee XJs used to be under 4k easy but now they average 4-5k for ones that aren't totally junk and also up to 15k for nice ones with 100k miles. My attainable dream car was going to be the C6 Z06, which in 2017 you could get a nice one for 35k but many were in the 30's. Now those are hovering in the 40's easy and only ones that are kinda dodgy are in the 30k range.
I got my JDM dream car some years before the prices stared going crazy. And when I checked how much they were a few years ago and how their YT coverage increased, my jaw dropped! lol
Proud owner of a 65 fastback mustang and It really really hurts me knowing that a lot of younger car enthusiasts wont have the chance to afford neat cars like these. Really is a shame to think im one of the few before we start seeing only electric stuff sooner or later but congrats to anyone who managed to get a fun and exciting first car and take good care of it, because chances are you are going to be one of the last who found cheap affordable fun sports cars that mean something.
Japanese man here. JDM prices are also skyrocketing in Japan. Like, cars like Nissan Silvia, AE86, NA Miata, etc. used to be refereed to as "missiles" because they were so cheap to a point you can pick one up and not feel guilty about wrecking them, but now they are so expensive that people who owns them stores them in a garage and only drive them to car meets. Well known JDM cars like Skyline GT-R, Supra, RX-7, etc. Are pretty much impossible to afford these days. Also, cars like RX-8s, NB Miatas, and 350Zs also used to be a "missile" cars but they started to appreciate thanks to lack of affordable sports cars. Even touge racers I talk to are thinking of switching to stuff like old BMWs.
I remember seeing c4s going for about 5k for 50k mile manual, pre face lift models back in 2017 or 2018. Now 100k mile automatic pre facelift c4s go for 6 or 7k at the minimum.
I’ve been a Toyota fanboy since I was and always wanted a Supra. I have money for one now but four years too late. At this point I would rather just purchase a MKV and I would be satisfied with the money I spent.
@@hybridShinx then it would cost a lot more, it’s a good sports car for the price, looks cool too. You supra fanboys need to look past the name and see that it’s an amazing car
@@vegetsofray9163 isnt that how the Nissan GTR was when it first came out? Surely Toyota wont throw a high price like Nissan Also what does this have to do with me being a fanboy ? I dont even like the Supra, its the most boring coupe i have seen but i will say something nice to it Japans obsession with the number 300 on their cars is just cringed and stupid
That whole scene from Fast and the Furious at 12:47 is the entire reason JDM cars prices are outlandish nowadays give or take the car and specific models. I wished you would have given a few price numbers on the 355 for added context of how popular that scene just spiraled tuner culture into greatness and also out of sensible reason. A twin turbo Toyota 2JZ costing more than a Ferrari... WOW!!! Almost everyone now that buys a tuner car thinks they have a cheap exotic car slayer due to that movie scene from 12:46.
When they frist started to import them in like 2006 to 2011 you could get a gtr r32 in decent condition for 20k cad after import and shipping they where like sub 14k$ back in hapan back in 2010 big sad
@@carlraymondgrenier787 I’d hate to even look at prices now. Recently I’ve seen a clapped out Silvia (can’t remember the gen maybe s15) for 20k and a high miles R34 GTS-T for near 50k which actually sold.
I remember in 2012-2013 I was looking for Japan Imports to Germany, the R32 and R33 GTRs were between 11000€ and 15000€ and the R34 I think were somewhere around 30-40 k€. Now the R32 and R33 are in the 40+ and the R34 are beyong 60+. Just a little mad fact my first Volvo 740 from 1990 (B230F) I bought for 450€ in 2015 my second Volvo 740 from 1989 (B234F) I bought for 1250€ in 2018 ( I had been looking for the 16V for over 2 years before this one showed up, few months later the 16V started to appear for sale everywhere in Germany but most of them 1500+ my third Volvo 740 from 1988 (B230FT) I bought for 2000€ disassembled (but with a bill of prove that the engine had been rebuilt for 2000€). And currently most 740s that are avaible are real shitty ones 1000+, shitty ones with a lot of work 2000+, somewhat ok 3500+ and good shaped ones are beyond 6000+ (my fathers 740 B234F after all his restoration and repainting job was estimated for around 18000€)
I remember thinking that one day I would be able to afford to buy a supra but this video has got me thinking that one day I might be able to afford a miata
Unfortunately the new car market has had a lot to do with used prices skyrocketing so it's really hard to tell what the true inflation value is or what it would be without the current market status. Everyone hears "used car prices are high because new supply is low" so all cars are being listed for higher, even if the demand (specifically for those cars) may not reflect as such. With that being said, price will be dictated by what people are willing to pay. I got my S2000 before this, sold it, and am currently searching for a 1st gen NSX. Who knows how long I'll have to wait though. 🤷🏻♂️
This just makes my heart drop. I've been a lover of JDM cars for years now, especially of the NSX's. But seeing those prices rocket upwards makes my heart hurt. I might even just have to give up on getting an NSX in the future now, it's just too much. Also, does that 1999 Mitsubishi 3000gt VR4 have some sort of kit on it? If not, that car is clean and sexy as heck. Bladed, do you think that the prices on the NSX will drop in the future? Also, do you think that the '99 3000gt VR4 will also drop?
The s13 180/200 sx used to be between 4k to 8k,very good condition, with some going for around 12k but where in perfect condition, now 13k, with problems and the exterior with faded paint, and 20/26k for an "perfect" model, here in italy the prices are stupid. Also the S14 goes from 18k to 30k and theS15 go from around 25k
Imagine the reverse here. Living in Southeast Asia, I've seen a generation 1 Ford Mustang (1965), used, non-restored, with still left-hand drive (RHD is the normal way of driving here), about 120k mileage being sold for 70k$.
Now that im 23 and have the funds to buy the cars i want everything goes up in price by an insane amount. Even a jzx mark 2 is like 30k for a factory manual. Long gone are my dreams of owning a 1jz powered 4 door
Just build it, 1jz is300 or take your pick of a 4 door 90s or early 2000s japanese 4 door. The 1jz engine is kind of a lot now so a good bang for buck Toyota engine is the 1uz, I just picked up a gs400 1uz for 400 to make my is300 an is400.
@@beautifulbeaner you not getting a turbo model for under 20k even being auto also manual swaps are cheap cause the r154 trans isn’t cheap talking like 3k alone for the trans
@@kylewolfe4089 that is definitely true r154 and when I was looking the w55 and w58 were a little overpriced. I went with an ar5 for 500 and it's been awesome
I don't understand the point being made that these prices will ever "crash", and much less return to what they once were. Obviously collectors and the wealthy see these cars as being worth at least roughly what they're going for now; why would this change? What economic force exists that will cause the prices of these cars to drop back down by 30% or more? The demand for these is absurdly high compared to how many there actually are, and unless I'm just missing something I see no one struggling in the slightest to sell these cars at these prices. We can say "oh, it's just a 90s Toyota, who would pay that much?!" but it's (unless I'm missing something) apparent that people are, and will keep on, paying that much. Genuinely curious here. I want my doubt of this point to be wrong, but I just can't understand why a crash is inevitable. Sidenote, I'm not talking about car prices in general, those are obviously inflated by insane supply shortages in the new car market and they'll probably fall a little (though not *crash*) once microchip manufacturing is on track again.
The latest issue of Car and Driver just hit newsstands. After you wade through to the back page, past the (at this point inevitable) breathlessly positive reporting on electric trash, you find a mini-guide to buying a Z32. In it, they mention that pristine twin turbos can cost over $60K now. That brought to mind two of their previous mini-guides: the one where they said an LS1 Camaro could go for $20K, and the one where you said you could get a decent Aston Martin V8 Vantage in the 40s. I've also heard - not from them, but from others - $60K+ for a Mk. IV Supra Twin Turbo, starting prices of $20K for an R32 non-GTR, and I think I heard $80K for an R34 GTR, though I'm not sure where that number came from given that the R34 isn't US-legal yet. Now, to me, every car I just mentioned, except the Aston, is a $10K-15K car. I was thinking that the GTR34 could be worth $20K or maybe even 25, but then I remembered how it got shown up by a Chevy Cobalt and I'm like... nah. The same thing is happening with tuners that happened to muscle cars. People get a little older, have a little more disposable income, and suddenly they're willing to massively overpay for their dream car. Eventually, the performance-per-dollar ratio ceases to pencil out, and the car becomes a collector's item, too nice to abuse without feeling guilty for it. And as the supply of the older muscle cars continues to dry up, previously reliable escapes from their price insanity - pickup trucks, 4x4s, the "post-muscle" cars of the 1970s and 1980s - are starting to join them. This wouldn't be such a problem if the authorities weren't doing everything in their power to deny the car hobby a future; eventually, a new batch of desirable cars would appear and the cycle would repeat itself. But now it's all about "muh poler bearz" or "muh safety"; EVs and killswitches are being rammed down our throats without our having any say in the matter, and since maybe 2008 there has been a major polarization in the way vehicles are built which has seen non-"sporty" cars become as deliberately boring as possible. There are still some performance/fun-to-drive bargains out there, but the problem is, they tend to be the kind of car that doesn't have and never will have much aftermarket support, often for good reasons... or not. The Chevy Cavalier and Cobalt (and their rebadges) are a heap of fun to throw around, but they've been stigmatized by the Internet Car Enthusiasts as being absolutely worthless because blah blah interior materials blah blah blah torsion beam blah blah specific output, and many of the remaining Cavaliers in particular are in rough shape. The XV10 Toyota Camry has been mentioned as a "hidden gem" - but come on, it's a Camry, it was never going to have much aftermarket except for maybe some body kits back when that was a thing. The Chrysler K-bodies and derivatives of the 1980s and 1990s just plain weren't saved. The car hobby is going to have to be inventive to survive from this point onward. We have to be able to see the potential in every (ICE) car, even ones that have zero racing pedigree or sportiness in general to start with.
I'm 22, even if I had the money to buy one of these JDM car, I would be spending an arm and a leg to cover insurance. By the time I get a job in Cyber Security, I'm still gonna have to save the money for one of these, if they're still even around.
back in 2017, when i was in high school i used to browse cars that i was gonna buy once i graduate (in 2020) i remember looking at skyline 25gtt, and gts. they used to go for around $7-10k (AUD). if my memory is to be trusted, evo 7 gta used to be under 10k, silvia, s13 was around 10k s15 were 15k+ mx5s were 5-6k its just batshit crazy now skylines are 25k+, evos, evo 7 20-25k, silvias - 20k, mx5 nb-8-10k, na mx5- 12k+ whats worse is au falcon prices they used to be like $500 now you'll stuggle to find one under $1000-1500 au xr6s are stupid expensive as well, 6-10k for a clean automatic and more than 10k for a manual one
Never should have sold my FC. I bought it for $5500 and held on to it for 3 years. Sold it for maybe $7k. Only had 36k miles on the engine and 100k on body. Making 350 to the wheels Finding one in similar condition costs around $13-25k now in my area. And even verts are going for $8k. I’ve been practically miserable. I just wanna drive my first car again.
The interesting part is that most cars were "the last good one". The new NSX wasn't that well received also the new Supra. Then the Prices of the old version skyrocketed. I am curious if the prices of old GT86s would also rise if the new GR86 flops. Same with the new 400z
I can't see the new GR86 or the Z getting the cold reception the Supra and NSX got at all. In my opinion: Unlike the Supra and NSX, the 86 and Z show lots of clear respect for what enthusiasts want. Especially the Z with its conservatively retro cues (nothing overdone, just little things) and being 100% Nissan. Whereas the NSX and Supra seemed to be made just to have a sports car that makes good performance numbers. Just my opinion.
ive come to terms over the past year that my hobby of buying, tweaking, and driving cars in an affordable way are OVER. any car today that is cheap and decent is exposed after sometime and prices just skyrocket. at this point any car from the early 2000s and before are all going up in price, and considering gas prices dont seem to be going cheap and everything going electric, this is not gonna get better soon. ive accepted that i may never return my loved hobby again. i am older now too so its easier to give up as other things take up my time.
Honorable mention for JDM's from personal experience: Nissan 350z. Likely due to reaching the bottom of their depreciation curve (and soon becoming the drift car platform of choice). I remember people said $5k could get you a decent example with a manual with a DE. Spend a bit more and get a cleaner model, even an HR equipped model. Nowadays (least in my area) the cheapest DE's are now closer to $7k-$8k, $9k+ plus if you want a manual. I made money on my 2007 350z as I've consistently checked prices over the past while. Since owning it, many HR equipped Z's in my area sell for over $10k. And I bought mine at $9k at the start of the pandemic
I’ve ALWAYS wanted a cool car, and just my luck rn is when I have the money and the credit to get it 😅 ended up w a 2017 BRZ, at least it wasn’t 157% above new price 😂 maybe one day if there’s a market crash imma get me some fine ass shit box to have 🙌🏼🤩😂
The phrase that better sums the situation is: “it’s tragic” I saw an R34 nismo fully original with mods on sale for 200.000€ I’m kidding you not!! It’s madness
I regularly find it ridiculous that something the equivalent of a Japanese Mustang (mainly thinking the Supra here) can be way above 100K, when in all reality, with absolutely ZERO modification, has absolutely nothing special about it, just because of the hype over them. One of the many reasons I’m not deeper into the JDM fandom. Stuff like certain cars being overhyped to oblivion, these ridiculous prices for practically everything, and the extremely vocal 12 year old fanboy population just turn me off severely.
It's not really the equivalent of a Japanese Mustang. There's probably 50-60k MKIV Supras made in total of all years world wide. Meanwhile there's 200k Mustangs made just in 2000. They sell by the hundred thousands every year. One car is extremely uncommon.
I remember there was a 08 Subaru Impreza WRX STI for sale near me for £8k at around 70k miles. Now the cheapest 08 STI is £15k sitting at 120k miles... nearly double the cost for near double the miles.
See I wanted a nice Jdm car as my first car beacuse they had small engines and stuff and were easy to work on and parts are plentiful and they were cheap and I was watching a mk3 Supra and he wanted 79k for it and it was stock and run down. I got a 2015 perfect condition camaro that was so much cheaper for only 22k and that’s just sad.
That reminds me that yesterday I found the shell of a C3 Corvette for sale close to where I live. When I called the owner he said he wanted $18k for it. Mind you, this is in Mexico and 18K is 5 times the yearly minimum wage.
I bought a 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 a few years ago for only $7k. Currently it has 110k miles and still running and driving to this day. I got lucky, but I am glad I bought it while I had the opportunity; prices now are insane!
Bit of a correction with the 3000GT- SL’s don’t have turbos. Outside of the 98& 99 models, the SL only changes cosmetic & interior stuff, the engine is identical to the base model.
I feel like most 90s JDM cars are becoming a classic that's why they shot up in price. It's even crazier where I live with the hype and the new law state a ban on importation of any used cars, for example, a Honda/Acura NSX costs around 60-100k(I'm not sure) but here it costs 300k for one. Despite that, some cars are still way overpriced, something like NA Miata or 200sx, sure it might be cool and all but definitely not worth their price rn.
I've got my E89 Z4. I'ts a great car and people aren't going crazy over them yet. I wouldn't swap it for any of the cars that you mentioned. The straight six is frickin' awesome!!!
Regardless of what people think they are worth what they are advertised for and what they sell for are usually entirely different figures. In Australia the market seems to have peaked and the same cars are being advertised for many months unsold.
Here in Australia the prices for V8 Holden Commodores are ridiculous now. I bought a VE SSV Commodore with manual transmission at the beginning of 2020 with 185,000km on the clock for $15k. Now you are looking at paying $25-30k for the same car. I’m just glad I got in when I did before the prices went ballistic.
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Hi Angel, you think it would be possible making a simillar video of JDMs cars that actually stood affordable or became little cheaper? If that even possible. I've no clue about american market since im europian but it might be cool idea.
Sure, but I fear that would bring attention to underrated cars, which means clout chasers will see it, which means they'll get fucked after a few years too.
This happened with certain SAAB and Volvo Sleeper models cause of my videos and Doug Demuro's videos on them. I legit feel kinda guilty too ngl.
Also I prefer to be called Bladed or Bladed Angel. Not Angel only, since that sounds like a Male Stripper name lmfao.😂
@@BladedAngel Sure thing Doctor Blade
@@BladedAngel Now that i read it again it does LMAO, Sorry 'bout that. =D Thanks for the answer.
@@BladedAngel there is actually a male stripper named Angel in cyberpunk 2077...
He should do American cars!
Never thought 90s jdm cars would go for more than entry supercar prices
Well here's the thing
_Entry level Supercar prices are fucked now too_
@@BladedAngel lol true
Crazy world we live in
@@BladedAngel yep, they are all fucked
Never would I think we’d have a world where R33s and Supras cost *more* than a brand new GT-R
"More than you can afford pal, Toyota"
At this point in time, people are better off buying older Ferrari.
No lmao, them Ferraris, used are still commanding high prices!
@@borla4491 depend on the Ferrari tbh you can get many for a cheaper price than a supra. The maintenance will probably be higher tho
@@titythomas3833 yep. Maintenance will utterly fuck you on a Ferrari.
@@titythomas3833 Uh' , finding parts for the Supra MK4 A80s ain't cheap either!
Good luck keep a Ferrari running for a year.
It's sad to think that people my age, 17, will never be able to afford the cars of their dreams because of people just a few years older than them. I genuinely looked forward to owning a Miata for cheap, then moving to something cooler like a Skyline or an Evo when I could afford it. But now, I know that, until the inevitable crash years and years from now, prices will just keep going up, just out of reach for me, and many others.
Feel bad for you pal. My really dream car rn is only an old Civic coupe/hatchback. But being a car guy here is a challenge. I almost want to give up my dreams to own and modified an old civic ( i want to B swap it, turbo it , and AWD it for better traction).
You can still get a nb or a nc for cheap
Meanwhile there are Corvette C4's and C5's begging for you to pick them up for cheap. Hell, even a third gen MR2 has never been cheaper than it is now. There's always an option.
It really depends on what you’re into I suppose. I’m into the 60’s, 70’s and 80’s classics and I recently bought a 1977 Chevy 1 ton for 1,100. Sometimes you have to find a good deal and just roll with it. It may not be exactly what you want but I think it can still be fun. Prices for some vehicles are absolutely preposterous but I think most sellers are reasonable and aren’t always money hungry weirdos. I can say this though. Most of the larger known models of the that time like Camaros, Cornets, Bonnevilles, Trans Ams, etc. are definitely out of mine and others reasonable price range. So I guess I can see what your getting at but second hand sellers can also be an option.
And it isn't just the JDM market. Opels (YES, OPELS) can go for $20-25k
I swear some people should start making kit car of these jdm cars in the future since the 3d printing is getting more & more convenient as time goes
Lawsuits and copyright bouta have a field day lol
Reject tradition, embrace printer going brrrrrr
And here, iam gonna buy Civic LX (a Lame ass 4 door civic) into coupe/hatchback one.
Since buy a fucking 2 door car in Indonesia is stupidly expensive. And tax more
Again, You snob collector can collect all those car, but us car guys will always win.
@@gibsson well not for mid engine 2door car example suzuki carry... Aowkowkaokwowk
@@playerindo lmao yeah, i forgot those lmao, Its still count as 2 door
Either To the moon, or to the center of the earth.
@Mr.Auclair no-?
@Mr.Auclair no…?
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@Mr.Auclair Boosh
@Mr.Auclair lol no dude.. you're the one who took the L
Cars in general are hella inflated. I’m seeing V6 camaros and mustangs from the 90s with high mileage going for over 5K which is ridiculous. I remember when you could pick these things up for like $1500 in decent condition
I got one for $700 once
@@tommyhavoctv3350 bruh
Stop sayin this stuff man, too much nostalgia... I miss it too much 😭
It honestly breaks my heart to see these prices shoot up in value like there's no tomorrow. For the longest time I've always wanted an Evo 9 and when i saw a semi decent one going for 50k i felt my heart drop. I looked at other jdm cars and i see that they have absurd prices as well. At this point i wanna give up on jdm cars.
Tbh same sh is happening with me, the only difference being a slight age difference probably.
I gave up on the NSX as soon as i checked the prices, then i became an Integta DC2 fanboy for a while, but now they're 20k+ € (about 25k $ or so), and the situation is the same with literally every well known 80s-90s Japanese sports car.
Euro is appreciating at a much slower rate, but is still painful to see a Golf GTi selling for 27k€/33k$.
At this point im beginning to fall in love with older base model BMWs for the 2nd time, except this time it's not for the "aggressive" looks my 9yo self loved them for, but rather affordability, as 1980-2000 base model 3- and 5 series Bimmers are mostly under 10k, and some titles can go as low as 2000, while still being pretty well maintained. If the prices stay down im planning to get an 80s 5 series rn.
@@shiftffs Yeah a lot of my friends are starting to shift to older base model euros (Boxster, 335i, etc0 or even 90s Muscle (Trans Am WS6, SVT Cobra, etc.). Anything that is super badge or brand recognizable has been ruined by clout culture. Like the price it costs to buy an M3 over a 335i...ngl, I wouldn't blame people for picking the 335i. People used to call Base Model Cars Poverty Spec, but not our fault these MF's think people are stupid enough to cough up ALMOST DOUBLE the prices they were 5 years ago.
@@BladedAngel Wait SVT Cobras are cheap over the sea?
And prolly the most painful thing out of this is seeing my own generation both skyrocket prices for virtually every well known car, and literally ruin both the prices and the cars themselves for future generations.
And ofc times change and most companies are focused on hatchbacks and "safe" fwd off-road looking as- vehicles (SUVs), and they no longer supply parts for their classic titles, which might even result in some cars becoming super rare, or even extinct (or im just overthinking things. Sorry, it's something i do way too often.)
I got my 9 at auction for 37k in really good condition last year in July. It's honestly sad to see that even beat up ones that used to be less than 20k are worth over 30k now. It's definitely tough to get a nicer one now but with the way things are going (prices continuing to rise and gas cars possibly being completely done away with by 2030) I would say getting one now is the best thing you can do. Obviously I have no idea what your financial situation is and everyone is different when it comes to what's "worth it" but that's just my two cents. From an Evo owner and long time Evo fan, I really hope you're able to get one someday man.
@@BladedAngel I can say I remember wanting to buy a R32 GTR in 2018 when I got my driving license and a clapped out one would go for 17-20k and as soon as 2020 you could find them for 35
I feel like we are getting to the point where a lot of people are going to have to start going after the more obscure cars (like the Dodge Stealth over the 3000GT or Saturn Sky over the Miata) if they want something semi-affordable. It really seems like the days of cheap sports cars are coming to an end which sucks for the common enthusiast who can't afford to buy a 20k plus car, mod and maintain it, and deal with the other expenses in life. I really hope the prices do eventually come down so these cars can be owned and loved by everyone again and not just the guys who use them for Insta clout or whatever.
Dodge Stealth is the Pink Season car, really want one of those one day
@@justadummy8076 papa franku would upvote
Shhhhh. Don't tell people about domestic JDM-style cars. Prices are still okay-ish for even a Stealth R/T.
Definitely. I see the Ford Probe gens going up in price soon. Rare car, Mazda Engine and Internals, tuneable. I own a Probe GT Turbo and I bet these will double or triple their price just because ThEY hAVe a tuRBo.
How about 80s cars they’re still pretty cheap
This was always bound to happen. People that were in there childhood when these cars came out are finally becoming able to afford them, and they’re paying up for them! Same thing happened with 60’s and 70’s muscle cars in the early 2000’s, and that seemed just as ridiculous at the time. However, these cars will never go all the way down to where they were 5-7 years ago. They will settle, but never fall down that much, with our now inevitable EV future ruling out manual stick shift drivers cars being made in the future
I recently bought a Miata for like 6K USD and it's honestly sad seeing the prices rise so much because in the future they will no longer be an affordable sports car anymore.
I mean, it's technically good for me because my car is gaining value but I kinda want another one in the future. I've been bitten by the Miata bug so I will also lose money as the value rises lol
even 6k is nuts for a NB 2 years ago I saw NBs with under 100k for 3-4k
@@beautifulbeaner It was a great price for today's market because it's a one of 151 colour and it's in brand new condition but it's true that I could've gotten a similar car for much less a few years ago. The market is properly crazy, I wonder at what point people will stop paying more and more for them
@@ericsson_motorsports I’m not sure, it’s either they depreciate or just keep rising in price, and I’m expecting them to keep rising
Why do you need more than one miata?
@@theyeetus1428 I want to build a race car and race it in the Swedish MX-5 Cup (basically our version of Spec Miata). I also want a Miata to drive on the street which is what I want my current one to be.
Instead of compromising by trying to keep a race car competitive while also being comfortable on the street I think it's best to have two cars, one for each situation
Kinda curious. Do you think the car market will ever crash in a similar way the housing market crashed in 2008? I ask since cars are getting more and more expensive, more and more people will need to take loans out on the car and some will not be able to pay it back.
For sure. Everyone needs a place to live, but not everyone needs a car. If a recession happens, then clout bois can't make payments, which means they'll flood the market fast n cheap to recoup money. Just like foreclosure, but with cars
@@BladedAngel good god let it be soon. I lost my car back in October and im trying to save up money to buy another one, but current market rn is telling me to hold off
@@magicmanv2658 Yeah. 9k for a CRZ in average condition and is in need of a 3k battery replacement is not acceptable.
@@svn5994 I got one for you. The car market inflation has over extended into practical cars. Here in Ohio, a 2005 Honda Civic with 300,000 miles sells for 6,000.
Im sorry but the crack your smoking must be great if you think ill spend 6,000 on a car that may be on its last 2 months
the whole gasonline car market will crash before 2030 since then only ev can be sold it either skyrockets the price for gas cars or its crashes it.
sorry for poor english i wished too that the netherlands would have colonzed the world instead of united kingdom would have made it easier for me ;)
Clout is one hell of a drug. You don't build a car to satisfy your fragile ego and your followers, no, it's your car, do what you want, for your own enjoyment. Even I as a teenager is sick of this clout culture stuff. And why is it that most of them always pick Japanese cars??? I fear that when I'm an adult, the cars that my generation loved so much aren't very obtainable anymore.
Can we please stop chasing clout?
Also, how's the Miata?
People will never stop chasing clout and it’s sad.
And why is it that most of them always pick Japanese cars? because theyre easier and cheaper to work on and you get a lot more for your money than you do with german or american cars. At least when it comes to the popular cars.
@@ndk2k4 In a lot of cases, that's true. Yes American cars are also not very expensive but they're not as reliable as the Japanese cars.
You do be spitting facts
Miata has hardtop now.
It was not worth the cash I coughed up for it. According to me at least. Michael likes it though
@@AKseorangmanusia Depends. I have tons of footage on this channel from Lanier Raceplex or GridLife Road ATL and I have the audio muted since it's a commentary...but if I unmuted the audio
_Literally all you would hear would be Corvette noises. Over half of them are LS Swapped because they blew up their Japanese motors_
It's one thing to think/say something on the internet. It's another thing to actually talk with the owners who walk the walk and see what actually works.
Of course reliable Japanese Engines like 2JZ, Rb26, and the K-series engines would do fine...but people want AN ARM AND LEG for those engines. "Cause drift tax bro".
So naturally, when people bought S-chassis (Like S14s and beyond) they started to show/street build it and I don't even blame them. With the insane prices they're buying them for, why risk breaking the car? But that's TRAGIC when you consider that's what the car is made for. To track, to drift, to drive, to love, to mod, to enjoy. But nah, they sit at shows flexing instead.
JDM cars are loved for being cheap, easy to work on and mod and just being straight up great and randoms like me and you can get. That is no longer the case they are insanely expensive (most of them being the iconic ones and the ones everyone would want). They are so expensive you are better of buying Luxury cars or sports cars it's actually ridiculous
I agree, JDM cars were sought after for it's affordability and tuning capabilities in the first place.. Right now,you might as well get a supercar/ other non JDM cars for the same price
People say supply and demand as a catch-all. But it's not prices I'm complaining about per se, more like the how high and how fast they went up is kinda sus
I think it's a bubble which will blow up soon, I guess investing alot of money in a expansive car just for making profit might not work out, may be. I would by my dream car regardless of price.
@@beluga2857 "I would buy my dream car regardless of the price" if you are bloody fucking rich, sure, but most car guys are not rich enough to have money for a 100k car, because they also need money for their families, a house etc. etc. and let's be honest, most of them would need to save up for like 15 - 20 years to have 100k dollars.
@@nikoraasu6929 fair enough bud
The most shocking part is, 355s have increased in price themselves, and yet the Supra rocketed past that.....
"More than you can afford pal, Ferrari"
Seems like the tables have turned
The Rx8 is funny to me. In the UK Rx8s are going at less than a grand lmao, practically giving me away
I wouldn't sleep on those... At that price, even if the engine straight up quits on you, you've got a hell of a fun car to put a new/rebuilt engine into (for a few grand more of course)
Was watching a video shot in late 2021 with RE-Amemiya's founder where he said RX8 prices have started to rise in Japan. Same thing is happening here in the US. With the Series 2 RX8 engine being more reliable or going the route of an LS, LSX or K swap, these cars will start to get more second looks.
The E92 m3 is one of my main dream cars and they have literally doubled in price. You could get a PRISTINE example for no more than 35k back in 2016 -2018 and now they range from 60k to 70k. You can get an older higher mileage one for around 30k today.🙃
I, would say go for the m1 there is a chance that it will go for a fortune.
Hmm, here in UK they haven't increased anywhere near as much, e90/E92 prices start at only 10 to 15k for high mileage examples, lower mileage is between 25k to 35k, the most expensive e92 M3 I can see is costing £36k
@@aadi8568 Sounds like I need to move to the UK
@@blitz4387 The 335i is also a good option to look out for. With Downpipes & Software + maybe an intercooler (if tuning is allowed where you live) you can push the same HP figures as the M3. And with the benefit of it beeing Turbocharged instead of naturally aspirated you can add more boost too (if needed). The only thing you dont get would be the Carbon fiber roof.
@@A_Ride_To I actually do have a 335i lol I want an m3 though its simply just the better car imo.
God evos in general in the UK have gone nuts price wise
There is little to no sports cars here where I live but I don't want a golf or a Punto or a polo so I am really really screwed
@@MagnumLoadedTractor I bought a focus st as my first performance car. I mainly like it because of the 5 cylinders noise more than anything else.
@@15DEAN1995 don't have that either...out of all countries to be born I had to be in European asshole of Bosnia and Herzegovina
@@MagnumLoadedTractor oh right I thought they were sold all over Europe but they mustn't have made it everywhere
i remember looking for EVO IX in 2016, prices were around 14-15k € (Germany, Poland, Czechia and Slovakia). RN are 40..... WHAT THE F....
all of the sporty vq platforms have gone up substantially in my area, in 2017 you could get a clean hr 350 for 6-7k and a g35 for 5-6k. now it is hard to find any clean examples of either for under 10k
yeah iv noticed it where i am too 350z trash models are goin up
And let’s not forget about 350 nismos doubling in price too
Yeah. I managed to get lucky with my 07 model. Under 100k miles, Daytona Blue, 6MT, Enthusiast Trim Coupe. No mods other than a BT Stereo, Backup Camera and skinnier tires (40 aspect instead of 45). Bought it off some kid who lost his job as the pandemic hit for $9k
@@ShingoKirishima1997 sweet deal and exactly the options and mods I'd want - enjoy it man
Social media clout is for sure a big part of it.. but the main reason is the raise of electrics and SUVs.. they have ruined the car industry
Electric car doesn't keep world peace either. Either pay for the high price from a rival nation who control the mines or fight to claim the mines.
@@Joshua_N-A and some people prefer banning cars overall. especially for USA and UK
@@4storyboss usa or UK u from a parallel universe it's France Belgium and Netherlands that are banning cars or well limiting them
@@MagnumLoadedTractor You mean cars in general? I know how great and amazing it would be for places to be oriented towards people but I wouldn't prefer having cars banned.
@@MagnumLoadedTractor "you will own nothing and be happy"
R32 went for about 10,000-30,000 depending on mileage, import status, and condition/rust/resto status’. Import fees not included! I was looking for a long time but gave up in 2019 when they jumped five grand or so… 😂 if only I knew what I know now
R32 as in RWD GTS-T? Or R32 in general including the GT-R?
@@Joshua_N-A that’s a really good question and I’m not sure. I feel like it was the GTR but if that’s an egregious underpricing then I probably would have been fine with the GTST
R32 gtr you could’ve been able to get one for under 10k like I saw a think that showed some prices of jdm cars in 2012 I think and there was a r32 gtr for $3800 and a youtuber I watch said don’t know how many years ago but he said someone offered him his r33 gtr for $6000
@@Joshua_N-A R32 GT-Rs could be had all day for less than 20k in the States for the first couple years they were legal. Now every importer around me lists them for 60k plus. The market is crazy
@@MrDoom879 not to mention Nissan only produce them from 1989 to 1994, it's longer than the other 2 and the most numerous GT-R made at 43K units of all variants.
Bring more starter packs, like a newbie starter pack or some like that
That's why I'm saving up for a certain 30 year old car from Stuttgart or something like a BMW 635CSi or Audi 100 S4. People haven't really realized their value yet, despite being still very capable today
Lots of German and American cars are still under appreciated. If people really wanted GTST skylines then mustangs would be an apt replacement. Or if they want JZ sedans USDM gs350 and E46 sedans are just as good. People just love buzz words and “jdm culture” when the culture was only to buy what was available and usable 😣
Shhhhh do not speak out loud!!!
I _will_ have a Lexus GS one day as my highway queen.
@@nthgth Dedication, always good 👍🏻💪🏻
Aaaand now theyre $300k 🙃
I bought my 2011 sti for 14k USD and shortly after I started seeing them in the mid 20s with double the miles mine had. I guess I got one just it time.
Yeah I bought a 2010 sti special edition with 130k miles for 18.6k before tax n license a couple months ago. Really good deal because these cars are goin for like 20-25+ grand and they are modded with mileage 😹 smh ive even seen a 2007 with like 80k miles for like 35 large like damn
@@lilark4201 fr tho high mileage isn’t even cheap anymore. Mine had 93k km when I bought it and there was a 2014 with 33k km for 25k as well. If it were today that 2014 would be at least 40k (CAD)
That's my favorite gen of the WRX/STI but at that age I'm unconformable trusting it. (Bought a '20 instead)
Did you guys just take the chance that the engine's been messed with, or did you know the previous owner or have a Subie expert look at it before you bought it?
@@nthgth my car still has warranty and I could tell by looking at it that the previous owners did nothing except a muffler delete. If the warranty was voided or expired I probably would’ve hesitated on buying it. Also had pretty low miles at 93k km or 56-58k ish miles.
@@lilark4201 Why would you ever do that? for the price and mileage holy shit does it even run?
Saddens me that Clout culture has caused some of these classic Jdm cars to be destroyed just because they can’t take care of them or end up crashing them because they can’t handle their power
These prices have made me appreciate super and muscle cars a lot more
Here in Ohio, i couldve bought a Rx8 with 60000 miles for 3,000. Now that same Rx8 is 12,000.
Excuse me, im gonna go regret in the corner
Pain
@@BladedAngel suffering, even
Absolute pain.
@@magicmanv2658 from where im from. An rx8 is 50000$
As a younger car enthusiast who still hasn’t even bought his first car this really sucks , most of the cars I love are rising to the point of luxury car levels or more , and even cheap beginner car enthusiast cars have gone way up so much to where I probably won’t get my first enthusiast car for a few years , and because of the pool being small I’m also scared of getting something too nice and crashing it , therefore reducing the pool
Same, i'm terrified that the stuff I like will fly up in price within the next few years or so
Yeah dude... I'm 16 right now and sold my 1984 Mustang GT for 2300 after buying it for 1800, it was actually really nice but I was too early. I wanted another one but the prices have pretty much tripled on them too... Very sad
Bought a RX8 in 2020 for 6k. It had 98k on the body and 50k on the engine. The car was kept up with and taken care of. I didn't mind paying that price for such a nice car as it's hard to find RX8s in good condition
I’m trying to find one in good condition as of now but there so over priced over 6 grand
@@redroseandre5225 yeah, I'm surprised by the price of RX8s now. People are trying to sell their RX8s with over 100k+ miles on the original engine for near 6k 😬
@@Lnxythewolf yea it’s outrageous basically buying a car that needs a engine rebuild by then sadly hopefully I get one bro just gotta wait
@@Lnxythewolf you pay more because there's just less and less of them in good condition.
Few years ago I was like, all right, no money for now, but I'm gonna work hard make some and buy one of these in a few years. Now I got my target money from few years ago and started looking and omg... I am just so sad. At one point I was like okay, no JDM then, but what about the others? And this basically happened to every good hobby car. With older BMW-s and other germans, italians (never seen Alfas go for so much money... wtf...)
And as you said it is not like I don't have the money at all, it just hurts to give 10k for an e36 held up only by rust with 200k and a shady background when you have a family, a life and you can do a lot more with that kind of money. Seems like having a nice hobby car is a serious luxury now... Right before we go full electric and hobby cars disappear completely... What a time to live...
I don't think hobby car disappear and ev are crap, too expensive, have short range, and hard to find replacement part for the body and battery are expensive too, they dangerous if you in the flood you be shocked to death by electricity or in winter time you get frozen to death because the electric car is out of electricity because use up the heater and music, so yeah my guess keep work hard as you can but be smarter too just in case.
Damn bro. That's actually sad. You're not the only one, but legit this car market is just stupid af rn. No one could've predicted this sh*t. From chip shortage, to Covid, and to the rise of CLout Culture. It all combined to this BS we're stuck with. Stay strong man. Remember people are always more valuable than a hunk of metal and plastic. Like for real. Some MF's want way too much for their hunks of metal and plastic these days. But taking care of people you love will always be priceless. Someday I hope it turns around for you and you can take care of yourself too and got some dream car you've always wanted. We can only cross our fingers this market crashes, then these MF clout chasers can't make payments and start liquidating their assets at BLOWOUT prices since no one was smart enough to save, so they all sell, sell, sell, and flood the market. Then people who saved up like you and me, can FINALLY snipe a car we've always wanted. I will land me a Dodge Viper and First Gen NSX someday. I swear this sh*t is insane. But I ain't giving up hope, I'll hold up and hold my cash til these mf's bank can't hold their loans anymore.
Damn are Bimmers that expensive over there? In Finland it's 2-3k for a high mile one and 7-8k for a "good" one
@@unknowntruth8919 i dont think an electric car will electrocute you in a flood, and I think that you'd have bigger worries about being in a flood. EV prices will drop eventually with faster manufacturing processes and more companies catching up in the EV race. The range will get sorted, as many EVs can already do 400+ miles (think 20 gallon tank doing 20 mpgs.. not bad) and will continue to get better. Replacement parts for the body of an EV isn't an issue I see brought up often, but with more EVs being produced, there will be more EV panels. Batteries are very expensive like you said, and it might take a while for that issue to be solved; one of the biggest gripes of myself, and other car enthusiasts is that self-repairs or even 3rd party repairs are difficult. The manufacturers want to control the right to repair, similarly to Apple with their phones. With Apple constantly being forced to walk back on their right to repair policies, I think auto manufacturers will have to follow suit. If your gas car runs out of gas, you will also freeze (your statement here doesn't make much sense.)
The biggest commercial issue with EVs as of now is the infrastructure for readily available charging ports hasn't been adopted, but it will be in the next 10-20 or so years. With the EU committing to banning ICE cars from the road in the next 10-15 years, there will be a boom in EVs. We can't blindly cast the new technology aside and be ignorant about its potential. But we sure can be mad that the ICE will be getting replaced in our lifetimes.
Hobby cars might not disappear, but they won't be getting any cheaper. Not in the long haul anyway.
@@OscarHernandez-jk5nc the biggest issue is governments forcing the people to only buy EV junk without option.
Price for gas cars will continue to raise, and your only option in the future will be an unreliable battery on wheels.
Yeah there are so many cars that I would love to own (even just one of them) but as a 16 year old with no steady job at the moment, that doesn’t seem like it’s gonna happen
2000 svt cobra, ‘69 302 boss, ‘99 skyline gt-r r34, ‘82 trans am, ‘02 trans am WS6, ‘69 charger, etc.
so many sick cars that I probably won’t be able to afford....
two years ago, i was pumped cos examples of my dream car, a Z31 300ZX, were going for prices low as 8K and it seemed super attainable for me. now, just two years on, they're selling for over 20K and i question myself whether it's even worth it anymore.
another dream car of mine was a 240SX, seeing drift guys like haruguchi and itoh ripping silvias on track made me want to slide around in one for myself. now the cleanest of the 240's sell for upwards of 30K...
why would you want to buy a clean / stock one, if u r planning to build a drift car? you would need to upgrade substantial parts either way so you could go with a cheaper one
@@karlobrutalo425 even trashed ones sell for 8K upwards. i'd rather a clean one because most of them have already mods like rollcages and cut fenders with flares, those are irreversible. many also have a lot of rust and other problems that could terminally endanger the car.
Last time I went to the Car meet I've talked a lot of JDM car owners and most of them told me that buying one is like "meeting your childhood hero" and its often dissapointing
For example the Supra owner, he had the car bone stock like 0 mods, just changed the suspension and that's it and even then he said that he car was waay to rought to use it as daily car despite a lot of youtubers made videos saying that its one of the best daily jdm sportscars. I can't even imagine one modified how bad it will run as daily. And the most of the discomfort comes from the clutch and gear shifter.
The MR 2 turbo owner said that every time he takes the car out of garage, the car try to kill him.
The Miata owner ( NA and NB mostly) that the car is horrible as daily car, not because of the soft or hard top (which people expect) but the suspension and how low you're to the ground. And in the highway a lot of people don't see you and its very dangerous. He said that the car is more as weekend toy for the mountain roads, rather than a car for the highway or city.
Surprisingly every european sportscars owners were using their cars as daily and they were really happy with it. So for me, in conclusion, JDM sportscars are way more radical and are very hard to use as daily despite the reliability. Of course there is excepcions.
Some excepcions: Honda S2000, NSX and Type R are perfectly fine as daily driver. And Mercedes AMG cars, specially the Black Series ones are way too radical for daily driver.
That said, I still love JDM sportscars but for me, most of them are overvalued. I think if we take the half of the value of current inflated JDM cars they can be a good buy, but as it is now its a No, no for me. Unless you're a dead fan of certain JDM car, its better to stay away from it. I rather buy Ek 9 swap it to b18 than buy a type R. I will save around 20k $ which is a lot and can be used for modifications. Also if you are gona buy a special car like those, its better to leave them stock, at least for me.
I found a few R32 GTRs and GTSTs going for about 20-35k (USD, and in my area) in 2018, maybe 2019. I looked at them recently, and most of them are around 30-50 (nationwide), maybe more. I also remember e46 M3s were about 10-15k. Now they’re 15-30.
R34 GT-R.
Literally is £359,000 and was V Spec 2 Nür.
Plz tell me this is a prank
It could always be one of those scams where two people who are part owners of an auction buy from each other to inflate the precieved value of a car to drive up overall sale prices. Not pointing any fingers but who would actually pay that much?
@@BladedAngel that's from auction in Japan other day.
But, normal V-spec is okay. At least you can get a Motorex GT-R R34. That's a only legal way to owned the R34 GT-R.
@@ericsson_motorsports hmm.
@@ericsson_motorsports literally that is already at Hong Kong. And it's White V Spec 2 Nür.
Looking here living in japan there are 300gt for 14k and lower. Ive seen some for 20k but no more than that.
Also looking at jzx100 prices here, I thought you would add that price change as well. Thats the car I need.
That’s why many people are importing cars from Japan. Shipping and inspection included, STILL cheaper than a USDM spec model of the same make.
@@Sleepy_Moon84The sad part for me is I didnt have the money to get the car I wanted 5 years ago. Now the prices even here are skyrocketing. Im watching them go up 5k a month here in japan and 10k in the states. Hopefully I can get one before it too expensive to get
I remember looking for cars back in '17, when I was still in high school, deciding if I should get a job and buy something nice on the cheap, as well as decide what my dream car will be.
What I had planned for was a late 90's Toyota T100 V6 Manual 4WD, something that had a big bed, not too big as a truck, and towed 5k lbs, and those with 150k-300k mi would be anywhere between 3-8k. Now, they are 5k (for 320k mi), up to 17k, averaging around 12k. Cherokee XJs used to be under 4k easy but now they average 4-5k for ones that aren't totally junk and also up to 15k for nice ones with 100k miles. My attainable dream car was going to be the C6 Z06, which in 2017 you could get a nice one for 35k but many were in the 30's. Now those are hovering in the 40's easy and only ones that are kinda dodgy are in the 30k range.
I got my JDM dream car some years before the prices stared going crazy. And when I checked how much they were a few years ago and how their YT coverage increased, my jaw dropped! lol
ahh 2017 feels like yesterday when I used to wait for your videos and cartaku's video with NFS payback gameplay. good days
Proud owner of a 65 fastback mustang and It really really hurts me knowing that a lot of younger car enthusiasts wont have the chance to afford neat cars like these. Really is a shame to think im one of the few before we start seeing only electric stuff sooner or later but congrats to anyone who managed to get a fun and exciting first car and take good care of it, because chances are you are going to be one of the last who found cheap affordable fun sports cars that mean something.
finallyyyy a bladed video I have been binge-watching bladed since week ig, my whole feed is bladed and omni literally
all car prices are insane
i need to get money to buy my fav jdm cars before they go crazy
Japanese man here. JDM prices are also skyrocketing in Japan. Like, cars like Nissan Silvia, AE86, NA Miata, etc. used to be refereed to as "missiles" because they were so cheap to a point you can pick one up and not feel guilty about wrecking them, but now they are so expensive that people who owns them stores them in a garage and only drive them to car meets. Well known JDM cars like Skyline GT-R, Supra, RX-7, etc. Are pretty much impossible to afford these days.
Also, cars like RX-8s, NB Miatas, and 350Zs also used to be a "missile" cars but they started to appreciate thanks to lack of affordable sports cars. Even touge racers I talk to are thinking of switching to stuff like old BMWs.
I remember seeing c4s going for about 5k for 50k mile manual, pre face lift models back in 2017 or 2018. Now 100k mile automatic pre facelift c4s go for 6 or 7k at the minimum.
YEAH, c4 corvette prices have freaking skyrocketed. I’ve noticed this as well. C5 prices aren’t too bad right now though.
You can just tell how many hearts are broken now a day’s by this alone! Man I hope the prices are going to go down but I definitely doubt that!
I’ve been a Toyota fanboy since I was and always wanted a Supra. I have money for one now but four years too late. At this point I would rather just purchase a MKV and I would be satisfied with the money I spent.
You didnt really buy a Supra, you basically bought a reincarnation of the Celica :v
@@hybridShinx did the celica have 335 hp tho
@@OscarHernandez-jk5nc the GT4 Rally car yes, the new Supra should least have 500hp not 330hp like the old one
@@hybridShinx then it would cost a lot more, it’s a good sports car for the price, looks cool too. You supra fanboys need to look past the name and see that it’s an amazing car
@@vegetsofray9163 isnt that how the Nissan GTR was when it first came out? Surely Toyota wont throw a high price like Nissan
Also what does this have to do with me being a fanboy ? I dont even like the Supra, its the most boring coupe i have seen but i will say something nice to it
Japans obsession with the number 300 on their cars is just cringed and stupid
The voices you make are hilarious! LOVE IT! Made me cry of laughter!
I would like to see a video like this about American cars
You gotta be rich to own a classic muscle car now due to scarce parts?
That whole scene from Fast and the Furious at 12:47 is the entire reason JDM cars prices are outlandish nowadays give or take the car and specific models.
I wished you would have given a few price numbers on the 355 for added context of how popular that scene just spiraled tuner culture into greatness and also out of sensible reason. A twin turbo Toyota 2JZ costing more than a Ferrari... WOW!!!
Almost everyone now that buys a tuner car thinks they have a cheap exotic car slayer due to that movie scene from 12:46.
Also, I saw like one R32 for sale a while ago for like 20k CAD not gtr. Also saw an R33 RHD bone stock GTS-T I think for 7k.
When they frist started to import them in like 2006 to 2011 you could get a gtr r32 in decent condition for 20k cad after import and shipping they where like sub 14k$ back in hapan back in 2010 big sad
@@carlraymondgrenier787 I’d hate to even look at prices now. Recently I’ve seen a clapped out Silvia (can’t remember the gen maybe s15) for 20k and a high miles R34 GTS-T for near 50k which actually sold.
@@browntown9150 gotta have to keep my s13 silvia sr20det fer ever now
Same thing has happened here Australia, Since they stop building cars both locally built Ford and Holden prices have gone to the stratosphere
I remember in 2012-2013 I was looking for Japan Imports to Germany, the R32 and R33 GTRs were between 11000€ and 15000€ and the R34 I think were somewhere around 30-40 k€. Now the R32 and R33 are in the 40+ and the R34 are beyong 60+.
Just a little mad fact my first Volvo 740 from 1990 (B230F) I bought for 450€ in 2015
my second Volvo 740 from 1989 (B234F) I bought for 1250€ in 2018 ( I had been looking for the 16V for over 2 years before this one showed up, few months later the 16V started to appear for sale everywhere in Germany but most of them 1500+
my third Volvo 740 from 1988 (B230FT) I bought for 2000€ disassembled (but with a bill of prove that the engine had been rebuilt for 2000€).
And currently most 740s that are avaible are real shitty ones 1000+, shitty ones with a lot of work 2000+, somewhat ok 3500+ and good shaped ones are beyond 6000+ (my fathers 740 B234F after all his restoration and repainting job was estimated for around 18000€)
I remember thinking that one day I would be able to afford to buy a supra but this video has got me thinking that one day I might be able to afford a miata
Might not even be able to afford that soon with prices constantly going up
Oh wait this isn't an old vid pog, just bumped into your channel. Your content is entertaining and interesting!
Man, i see that with 10k you buy a good car.
You truly live in a paradise.
Unfortunately the new car market has had a lot to do with used prices skyrocketing so it's really hard to tell what the true inflation value is or what it would be without the current market status. Everyone hears "used car prices are high because new supply is low" so all cars are being listed for higher, even if the demand (specifically for those cars) may not reflect as such. With that being said, price will be dictated by what people are willing to pay. I got my S2000 before this, sold it, and am currently searching for a 1st gen NSX. Who knows how long I'll have to wait though. 🤷🏻♂️
That was an abrupt end xD Like "fuck it, the prices are out of control" 🤣
This just makes my heart drop. I've been a lover of JDM cars for years now, especially of the NSX's. But seeing those prices rocket upwards makes my heart hurt. I might even just have to give up on getting an NSX in the future now, it's just too much. Also, does that 1999 Mitsubishi 3000gt VR4 have some sort of kit on it? If not, that car is clean and sexy as heck. Bladed, do you think that the prices on the NSX will drop in the future? Also, do you think that the '99 3000gt VR4 will also drop?
On Facebook marketplace there was a right and drive R32 Skyline for about $65K a few years ago.
The s13 180/200 sx used to be between 4k to 8k,very good condition, with some going for around 12k but where in perfect condition, now 13k, with problems and the exterior with faded paint, and 20/26k for an "perfect" model, here in italy the prices are stupid.
Also the S14 goes from 18k to 30k and theS15 go from around 25k
i remember seeing very clean s chassis with no rust and low milage going for 5k, now even drift rockets and beaters are going for more than 10
Imagine the reverse here.
Living in Southeast Asia, I've seen a generation 1 Ford Mustang (1965), used, non-restored, with still left-hand drive (RHD is the normal way of driving here), about 120k mileage being sold for 70k$.
Now that im 23 and have the funds to buy the cars i want everything goes up in price by an insane amount. Even a jzx mark 2 is like 30k for a factory manual. Long gone are my dreams of owning a 1jz powered 4 door
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Just build it, 1jz is300 or take your pick of a 4 door 90s or early 2000s japanese 4 door. The 1jz engine is kind of a lot now so a good bang for buck Toyota engine is the 1uz, I just picked up a gs400 1uz for 400 to make my is300 an is400.
you can buy JZX90 JZX100s for under 7k - 8k shipped, but they will be auto but manual swaps are incredibly cheap and easy
@@beautifulbeaner you not getting a turbo model for under 20k even being auto also manual swaps are cheap cause the r154 trans isn’t cheap talking like 3k alone for the trans
@@kylewolfe4089 that is definitely true r154 and when I was looking the w55 and w58 were a little overpriced. I went with an ar5 for 500 and it's been awesome
I find it funny that the whole idea of JDM cars got flipped upside down.
I don't understand the point being made that these prices will ever "crash", and much less return to what they once were. Obviously collectors and the wealthy see these cars as being worth at least roughly what they're going for now; why would this change? What economic force exists that will cause the prices of these cars to drop back down by 30% or more? The demand for these is absurdly high compared to how many there actually are, and unless I'm just missing something I see no one struggling in the slightest to sell these cars at these prices. We can say "oh, it's just a 90s Toyota, who would pay that much?!" but it's (unless I'm missing something) apparent that people are, and will keep on, paying that much.
Genuinely curious here. I want my doubt of this point to be wrong, but I just can't understand why a crash is inevitable.
Sidenote, I'm not talking about car prices in general, those are obviously inflated by insane supply shortages in the new car market and they'll probably fall a little (though not *crash*) once microchip manufacturing is on track again.
the gran turismo music in the background is nostalgic, im a fan :)
I have seen the exact same r34 skyline vspec go from 30k to 135k in 6 years
the Mazda FD Rx7 was going for $12,000 in 2017.... if you want to buy on from a dealership now they sell for $40,000-$80,000
Last time I was this early Corona was just a beer
The latest issue of Car and Driver just hit newsstands. After you wade through to the back page, past the (at this point inevitable) breathlessly positive reporting on electric trash, you find a mini-guide to buying a Z32. In it, they mention that pristine twin turbos can cost over $60K now. That brought to mind two of their previous mini-guides: the one where they said an LS1 Camaro could go for $20K, and the one where you said you could get a decent Aston Martin V8 Vantage in the 40s. I've also heard - not from them, but from others - $60K+ for a Mk. IV Supra Twin Turbo, starting prices of $20K for an R32 non-GTR, and I think I heard $80K for an R34 GTR, though I'm not sure where that number came from given that the R34 isn't US-legal yet. Now, to me, every car I just mentioned, except the Aston, is a $10K-15K car. I was thinking that the GTR34 could be worth $20K or maybe even 25, but then I remembered how it got shown up by a Chevy Cobalt and I'm like... nah.
The same thing is happening with tuners that happened to muscle cars. People get a little older, have a little more disposable income, and suddenly they're willing to massively overpay for their dream car. Eventually, the performance-per-dollar ratio ceases to pencil out, and the car becomes a collector's item, too nice to abuse without feeling guilty for it. And as the supply of the older muscle cars continues to dry up, previously reliable escapes from their price insanity - pickup trucks, 4x4s, the "post-muscle" cars of the 1970s and 1980s - are starting to join them.
This wouldn't be such a problem if the authorities weren't doing everything in their power to deny the car hobby a future; eventually, a new batch of desirable cars would appear and the cycle would repeat itself. But now it's all about "muh poler bearz" or "muh safety"; EVs and killswitches are being rammed down our throats without our having any say in the matter, and since maybe 2008 there has been a major polarization in the way vehicles are built which has seen non-"sporty" cars become as deliberately boring as possible. There are still some performance/fun-to-drive bargains out there, but the problem is, they tend to be the kind of car that doesn't have and never will have much aftermarket support, often for good reasons... or not. The Chevy Cavalier and Cobalt (and their rebadges) are a heap of fun to throw around, but they've been stigmatized by the Internet Car Enthusiasts as being absolutely worthless because blah blah interior materials blah blah blah torsion beam blah blah specific output, and many of the remaining Cavaliers in particular are in rough shape. The XV10 Toyota Camry has been mentioned as a "hidden gem" - but come on, it's a Camry, it was never going to have much aftermarket except for maybe some body kits back when that was a thing. The Chrysler K-bodies and derivatives of the 1980s and 1990s just plain weren't saved.
The car hobby is going to have to be inventive to survive from this point onward. We have to be able to see the potential in every (ICE) car, even ones that have zero racing pedigree or sportiness in general to start with.
From what I remember R32s were around 25-30k and I've recently checked and they're like 60k
I now can't afford my dream car😭
Get a GTST and call it a day
@@hybridShinx I want the RB26 and attesa also the gtr looks better imo
@@zestyrabbit you can buy the kit and fool ppl to it
@@hybridShinx yeah but that's on the same level of making a fake supercar
@@zestyrabbit at least its not highly fake like supercar replicas
E46 M3 Coupes (from what I remember) costed a cool 15-20k in 2017-2019. They now cost upwards of 27k...
I'm 22, even if I had the money to buy one of these JDM car, I would be spending an arm and a leg to cover insurance. By the time I get a job in Cyber Security, I'm still gonna have to save the money for one of these, if they're still even around.
you could take a loan from credit union and pay it off if yoh want one of these after you get a job
@@zebrasgrave9354 True, that's an option I'm considering once I get into a cyber security job.
back in 2017, when i was in high school
i used to browse cars that i was gonna buy once i graduate (in 2020)
i remember looking at skyline 25gtt, and gts. they used to go for around $7-10k (AUD). if my memory is to be trusted, evo 7 gta used to be under 10k, silvia, s13 was around 10k s15 were 15k+
mx5s were 5-6k
its just batshit crazy now
skylines are 25k+, evos, evo 7 20-25k, silvias - 20k, mx5 nb-8-10k, na mx5- 12k+
whats worse is au falcon prices
they used to be like $500 now you'll stuggle to find one under $1000-1500
au xr6s are stupid expensive as well, 6-10k for a clean automatic and more than 10k for a manual one
the R32 hasnt inflated too terribly the last few years, its the R34 amd R35 that have ridiculous prices because clout car
The 32 used to be 25-30, literally half the price
Never should have sold my FC. I bought it for $5500 and held on to it for 3 years. Sold it for maybe $7k. Only had 36k miles on the engine and 100k on body. Making 350 to the wheels
Finding one in similar condition costs around $13-25k now in my area. And even verts are going for $8k. I’ve been practically miserable. I just wanna drive my first car again.
The interesting part is that most cars were "the last good one". The new NSX wasn't that well received also the new Supra. Then the Prices of the old version skyrocketed. I am curious if the prices of old GT86s would also rise if the new GR86 flops. Same with the new 400z
good thing for older Z lovers, the new Z is doing good at keeping the old ones cheap (even though they are still expensive)
Ironically a90 supra is the best and has the most sale in its class
I can't see the new GR86 or the Z getting the cold reception the Supra and NSX got at all.
In my opinion: Unlike the Supra and NSX, the 86 and Z show lots of clear respect for what enthusiasts want.
Especially the Z with its conservatively retro cues (nothing overdone, just little things) and being 100% Nissan.
Whereas the NSX and Supra seemed to be made just to have a sports car that makes good performance numbers.
Just my opinion.
ive come to terms over the past year that my hobby of buying, tweaking, and driving cars in an affordable way are OVER. any car today that is cheap and decent is exposed after sometime and prices just skyrocket. at this point any car from the early 2000s and before are all going up in price, and considering gas prices dont seem to be going cheap and everything going electric, this is not gonna get better soon.
ive accepted that i may never return my loved hobby again. i am older now too so its easier to give up as other things take up my time.
WHO TF IS BUYING RX8'S?!?!
Honorable mention for JDM's from personal experience: Nissan 350z. Likely due to reaching the bottom of their depreciation curve (and soon becoming the drift car platform of choice). I remember people said $5k could get you a decent example with a manual with a DE. Spend a bit more and get a cleaner model, even an HR equipped model. Nowadays (least in my area) the cheapest DE's are now closer to $7k-$8k, $9k+ plus if you want a manual. I made money on my 2007 350z as I've consistently checked prices over the past while. Since owning it, many HR equipped Z's in my area sell for over $10k. And I bought mine at $9k at the start of the pandemic
In the year 2035 the toyota supra mk4 will cost 2.1 million dollars
FACT
Even on my vision i can see R34 will cost 5 million dollars in 2040.
I remember about 3 years ago the R32 skyline was about 20k-25k for fresh imports
I’ve ALWAYS wanted a cool car, and just my luck rn is when I have the money and the credit to get it 😅 ended up w a 2017 BRZ, at least it wasn’t 157% above new price 😂 maybe one day if there’s a market crash imma get me some fine ass shit box to have 🙌🏼🤩😂
The phrase that better sums the situation is: “it’s tragic”
I saw an R34 nismo fully original with mods on sale for 200.000€ I’m kidding you not!! It’s madness
I regularly find it ridiculous that something the equivalent of a Japanese Mustang (mainly thinking the Supra here) can be way above 100K, when in all reality, with absolutely ZERO modification, has absolutely nothing special about it, just because of the hype over them. One of the many reasons I’m not deeper into the JDM fandom. Stuff like certain cars being overhyped to oblivion, these ridiculous prices for practically everything, and the extremely vocal 12 year old fanboy population just turn me off severely.
It's not really the equivalent of a Japanese Mustang. There's probably 50-60k MKIV Supras made in total of all years world wide.
Meanwhile there's 200k Mustangs made just in 2000. They sell by the hundred thousands every year.
One car is extremely uncommon.
I remember there was a 08 Subaru Impreza WRX STI for sale near me for £8k at around 70k miles. Now the cheapest 08 STI is £15k sitting at 120k miles... nearly double the cost for near double the miles.
See I wanted a nice Jdm car as my first car beacuse they had small engines and stuff and were easy to work on and parts are plentiful and they were cheap and I was watching a mk3 Supra and he wanted 79k for it and it was stock and run down. I got a 2015 perfect condition camaro that was so much cheaper for only 22k and that’s just sad.
CAMARO RS or SS ??
SS 6.2 V8 dual climate controll package with the bonus heads up display on the windshield
@@ultimateyeetgod8467 you can beef up the power cheaply too but make sure its legit
NSX prices are currently going for OVER $250,000 in Australia!
That reminds me that yesterday I found the shell of a C3 Corvette for sale close to where I live. When I called the owner he said he wanted $18k for it. Mind you, this is in Mexico and 18K is 5 times the yearly minimum wage.
Dude, coming from a 3rd world country where I live, that's probably the avg citizen's live savings..
That cut off at the end was hella funny
I bought a 1996 Mitsubishi 3000GT VR-4 a few years ago for only $7k. Currently it has 110k miles and still running and driving to this day. I got lucky, but I am glad I bought it while I had the opportunity; prices now are insane!
Bit of a correction with the 3000GT- SL’s don’t have turbos. Outside of the 98& 99 models, the SL only changes cosmetic & interior stuff, the engine is identical to the base model.
I feel like most 90s JDM cars are becoming a classic that's why they shot up in price. It's even crazier where I live with the hype and the new law state a ban on importation of any used cars, for example, a Honda/Acura NSX costs around 60-100k(I'm not sure) but here it costs 300k for one. Despite that, some cars are still way overpriced, something like NA Miata or 200sx, sure it might be cool and all but definitely not worth their price rn.
Would definitely like to see a video on American sports car inflation.
All I remember was that the R32 Skyline was $25,000-$30,000 back in 2019. Idk what it was in 2017 though.
I've got my E89 Z4. I'ts a great car and people aren't going crazy over them yet. I wouldn't swap it for any of the cars that you mentioned. The straight six is frickin' awesome!!!
Even cars that used to be cheap are getting expensive. Any ‘93-‘95 MR2 Turbo won’t go for under 20k, when you could get them for like 5k 5 years ago
Regardless of what people think they are worth what they are advertised for and what they sell for are usually entirely different figures. In Australia the market seems to have peaked and the same cars are being advertised for many months unsold.
Here in Australia the prices for V8 Holden Commodores are ridiculous now. I bought a VE SSV Commodore with manual transmission at the beginning of 2020 with 185,000km on the clock for $15k. Now you are looking at paying $25-30k for the same car. I’m just glad I got in when I did before the prices went ballistic.
As someone who just turned 18, the timing is just... great