Youre my mentor man, just as im thinking “man i wish he posted more about vocals” you post nothing but vocal videos! ive been struggling on adding better vocals to my tracks
I have layered a lot, sometimes using different EQ, panning, reverb. But I have not done as much comping, and even less gang singing. Thanks to your tute, I will be doing much more of the latter two. I worry I have is if this many voc tracks is going to rob me of energy and headroom for, say, bass..
I sang the harmony parts multiple times and panned them right left center. I'm going to go back record the vocals again making sure I get a dry sound going in. My foot pedals a were sending tone and reverb effects on the first run through. Your guides are so helpful. I really feel like I'm beginning to get an understanding of how to mix audio in GarageBand. Thank you!!!
I'm definitely going to try comping. As it is right now I'm going in and fixing parts as I go through my process. It' really makes good sense to do the 4 takes right off the bat and then comping them.
Definitely used unison vocals before and they help a lot. Really liked the suggestion of 4 takes to comp the lead vocal. Harmonies can sound great but can be tricky if you’re not sure what you are doing. It’s helpful to use something like Pitchproof to create a guide that you can sing along with to create them.
@@TheBandGuide Hey Colin - Pitchproof is a free pitch shifting/harmonizer plugin from Aegean Music. First tune the vocal you want to harmonize. Then put the tuned voacal on a new track and apply the plugin. You can pick the harmony you want - major 3rd, 5th, octave up, down, etc. This will sound robotic. To humanize it then apply the Vocal Transformer in GarageBand and formant shift it til it sounds right. You can then layer these tracks/harmonies and mix under the main vocal and most people won’t know it’s artificial. Usually I’ll do a major 3rd and 5th up and an octave down but depends on the voice. However, if you want them louder in the mix or for commercial release then you can simply use them as a guide track to have your singer sing a brand new track to. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
Awesome insider's tips! Thanks a lot. BTW, what I have done in GB so far is to loop a section of the project where I have to sing and then repeatedly have 5 to 10 or more takes. I then edit the several takes, choosing the best sub-take [may be a single or more words] to form a single main Vox. How does this approach differ from the comping method described here?
Great question! Very similar. I find that I can solo and switch through the tracks much easier and faster this way and I like seeing them all laid out visually. But ultimately either works! Whatever you prefer.
Actually for my new songs I try to record in a few languages I am speaking a little bit. Like Italian, Russian and French. Thanks for all your tips and tricks! Congrats on 10k!
I like to do four takes as well but with 1) take focused on the vowels and pitch 2) take focused on timing and the consonants, almost like whispering without the breath sound 3) take focused on the attitude and one more take as a support take, harmonies or whatever spice it needs.
I put a microphone in the shower stall and screamed a chorus into it a dozen times, doubled that twice, panned those around to get a very full crowd sound. Ha. Also, I’ve recorded the same vocal take with four different mics (SM58, SM57, SM55, and a tube condenser) to pick up different vocal tones. Lots of fun trying to het the perfect take… unfortunately it all starts with a good voice. No matter what I do, I can’t compensate for poor voice. But, it’s fun trying.
@@TheBandGuide I recently stumbled into something like your multi-mic idea. I recorded the backups on a 57 with a lot of dry compression, then doubled the lead on an AKG 414. Do you guys think that if I recorded simultaneously into both mics with different channel settings on a mixing console then sent it out as a single source to my interface, that might work?
A quick question on the comping technique mate. In your example everything has been pieced together already but it was not clear to me (at breakfast time viewing)how you assembled the final product for the Perfect lead track. It didn't look like it was cut and pasted so i assume you copied the end product into a duplicate or you went through and physically joined it? Hi to Chunk btw
Great question, Tim! So yes- once I'm totally done and happy with a part sometimes I'll "Join" all the tracks together. But actually in this case- when you're seeing it at the end there is after I've done some subtle vocal tuning on it. And once I finish vocal tuning I solo the vocal track and export it out and then drop that new audio in so that I can save the CPU from having an active tuning plugin at all times (a total CPU hog).
@@TheBandGuide Nice one Colin. You've probably demoed the process you've just described so can you send me a link....or if not include it in your list of things to do
Hi, I found that you have to be in the exact same position at the mic if you do different takes to get a compilation, or otherwise you can tell it’s a different take. Also, I work on IPad that only has 32 tracks, so do all the vocals sound the same if you merge the tracks?
Great point- if you are closer or further from the mic, it can definitely change the tonality of the recording. It would definitely work the same in iPad! I haven't used the iOS version, so I'm not sure the exact limitations- but as long as it allows you to do a "stereo" merge, it will sound the same
How do you cope with the parts of the song which are relly loud? I set uo the gain for the loudest parts but then the verses are soooo sooooo silent 😱 otherwise they re clipping
Sounds like you just need to click “A” on your keyboard, which will bring up automation, then you can crank the vocals up in the verse to your desire. Just click the line that comes up twice on either side of the verse. This allows you to then grab and drag that line up in the verse which turns up the total volume of that track. I hope this helped!
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Youre my mentor man, just as im thinking “man i wish he posted more about vocals” you post nothing but vocal videos! ive been struggling on adding better vocals to my tracks
🙌🏼 That's amazing. You got this, brother!
Thank you for making this so simple to understand for someone who has barely any knowledge with recording!
Wow. You’re brilliant! Thank you
Watched this one again .....great ideas....Good song!
Very helpful video dude. Also that song totally bangs🤟🏾🎶
Heyyyy thanks, Akim!
I have layered a lot, sometimes using different EQ, panning, reverb. But I have not done as much comping, and even less gang singing. Thanks to your tute, I will be doing much more of the latter two. I worry I have is if this many voc tracks is going to rob me of energy and headroom for, say, bass..
I'd really be interested in the details of the guitar sounds on that track.
I actually go through them in this video! th-cam.com/video/PrlCqeGO31M/w-d-xo.html
Cheers Colin 👍🏻🙏
I sang the harmony parts multiple times and panned them right left center. I'm going to go back record the vocals again making sure I get a dry sound going in. My foot pedals a were sending tone and reverb effects on the first run through. Your guides are so helpful. I really feel like I'm beginning to get an understanding of how to mix audio in GarageBand. Thank you!!!
Great tips, as always! Thanks, Colin!
Hey thanks, David!
Thank you Colin, another helpful lesson. Woof Chunk!
Thanks, Mike! Good chance Chunk was barking a hello to you when I was filming
Good stuff. Got the perfect song to try these techniques!!
Hey awesome, John!
Great advice boss! I like the different positioning to get a wider sound even if you are alone! Congrats from me 2!
Thanks, Tommy!
Thank you this is very interesting💯💯💯
I'm definitely going to try comping. As it is right now I'm going in and fixing parts as I go through my process. It' really makes good sense to do the 4 takes right off the bat and then comping them.
Love it, Terry!
Definitely used unison vocals before and they help a lot. Really liked the suggestion of 4 takes to comp the lead vocal. Harmonies can sound great but can be tricky if you’re not sure what you are doing. It’s helpful to use something like Pitchproof to create a guide that you can sing along with to create them.
Oooh I haven't heard of Pitchproof before! Could you tell me more about that?
@@TheBandGuide Hey Colin - Pitchproof is a free pitch shifting/harmonizer plugin from Aegean Music. First tune the vocal you want to harmonize. Then put the tuned voacal on a new track and apply the plugin. You can pick the harmony you want - major 3rd, 5th, octave up, down, etc. This will sound robotic. To humanize it then apply the Vocal Transformer in GarageBand and formant shift it til it sounds right. You can then layer these tracks/harmonies and mix under the main vocal and most people won’t know it’s artificial. Usually I’ll do a major 3rd and 5th up and an octave down but depends on the voice. However, if you want them louder in the mix or for commercial release then you can simply use them as a guide track to have your singer sing a brand new track to. Give it a shot and let me know what you think.
Left out a couple steps - you also need to set the key within the plugin and set the effect to 100% since you are applying on a new track
Great advice Colin, I use lots of these techniques on my tunes. A pre-emptive congrats on 10k subscribers. You are very close by the looks of things.
Thanks, John! 2 away! Finally hitting the 5 figures
@@TheBandGuide Yeah Colin, happy for you!!
Awesome insider's tips! Thanks a lot. BTW, what I have done in GB so far is to loop a section of the project where I have to sing and then repeatedly have 5 to 10 or more takes. I then edit the several takes, choosing the best sub-take [may be a single or more words] to form a single main Vox. How does this approach differ from the comping method described here?
Great question! Very similar. I find that I can solo and switch through the tracks much easier and faster this way and I like seeing them all laid out visually. But ultimately either works! Whatever you prefer.
Actually for my new songs I try to record in a few languages I am speaking a little bit. Like Italian, Russian and French. Thanks for all your tips and tricks! Congrats on 10k!
Very cool, Ray! Thank you!
I like to do four takes as well but with 1) take focused on the vowels and pitch 2) take focused on timing and the consonants, almost like whispering without the breath sound 3) take focused on the attitude and one more take as a support take, harmonies or whatever spice it needs.
Oooo this is a very interesting approach! I’ll have to try it!
Nice. I'm going to cop a couple of your ideas. Thanks for the share.
Definitely gonna mess with the room singing position to the microphone thanks collin
Glad it was helpful!
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I gain stage my individual tracks and it sound fuller with a little process
I put a microphone in the shower stall and screamed a chorus into it a dozen times, doubled that twice, panned those around to get a very full crowd sound. Ha. Also, I’ve recorded the same vocal take with four different mics (SM58, SM57, SM55, and a tube condenser) to pick up different vocal tones. Lots of fun trying to het the perfect take… unfortunately it all starts with a good voice. No matter what I do, I can’t compensate for poor voice. But, it’s fun trying.
Ah John- I love that idea! Going to have to try that 🤔
@@TheBandGuide I recently stumbled into something like your multi-mic idea. I recorded the backups on a 57 with a lot of dry compression, then doubled the lead on an AKG 414. Do you guys think that if I recorded simultaneously into both mics with different channel settings on a mixing console then sent it out as a single source to my interface, that might work?
thank you
You're welcome!
Would you do this for rappers as well?
Heyyy, can I not cheat and copy & paste the comp track to get a perfect layer? Or will that not give the same effect??
A quick question on the comping technique mate. In your example everything has been pieced together already but it was not clear to me (at breakfast time viewing)how you assembled the final product for the Perfect lead track. It didn't look like it was cut and pasted so i assume you copied the end product into a duplicate or you went through and physically joined it? Hi to Chunk btw
Great question, Tim!
So yes- once I'm totally done and happy with a part sometimes I'll "Join" all the tracks together. But actually in this case- when you're seeing it at the end there is after I've done some subtle vocal tuning on it. And once I finish vocal tuning I solo the vocal track and export it out and then drop that new audio in so that I can save the CPU from having an active tuning plugin at all times (a total CPU hog).
@@TheBandGuide Nice one Colin. You've probably demoed the process you've just described so can you send me a link....or if not include it in your list of things to do
Hi, I found that you have to be in the exact same position at the mic if you do different takes to get a compilation, or otherwise you can tell it’s a different take. Also, I work on IPad that only has 32 tracks, so do all the vocals sound the same if you merge the tracks?
Great point- if you are closer or further from the mic, it can definitely change the tonality of the recording. It would definitely work the same in iPad! I haven't used the iOS version, so I'm not sure the exact limitations- but as long as it allows you to do a "stereo" merge, it will sound the same
How do you cope with the parts of the song which are relly loud? I set uo the gain for the loudest parts but then the verses are soooo sooooo silent 😱 otherwise they re clipping
Sounds like you just need to click “A” on your keyboard, which will bring up automation, then you can crank the vocals up in the verse to your desire. Just click the line that comes up twice on either side of the verse. This allows you to then grab and drag that line up in the verse which turns up the total volume of that track. I hope this helped!
Hi Chunk.
😂 glad someone caught this!
Always remember we must repent of our sins (sin is transgression The Law Of Yahuah The Father in Heaven. The Law are The Books: Genesis, Exodus, Leviticus, Numbers, & Deuteronomy). We must repent of our sins and Have Belief On Yahusha The Messiah. HE Died and Rose three days later so that we can be forgiven of our sins!
Come to HIM Today. Much love!