I play the 5.7 F4u a lot and it feels like the cannons are good again. Granted I only play it in custom battles with friends because it’s at a terrible br, but still they feel good to use again
@@jaydenlee3091 I’m talking about the planes at it’s br. It can fight them but it never gets the chance because the entire enemy team is usually all ju-288s
Something else I’ve noticed is the F-5E/F-5C is a much ‘colder’ aircraft than a lot of other aircraft at their BR. What that means is, unless I’m using an AiM-9L or something with a sensitive seeker, I have to close to within 2km to use a missile, where if it was a MiG-21 I’d be able to shoot within 3-4km. Even if the F-5 is using afterburner.
You see a lot of Kfir, Milan and premium jets bombing and dieing \ running to enemy base because all of them are bots. Bot is huge in the game and will actually kill it in the long run if not addressed. For ARB at that BR, there are 3 to 6 bots every match PER TEAM.
Indeed. It's even worse in naval. Either Gaijin pulls their head out of their asses and starts a crusade against bots, however difficult it may be, or the game will suffer for it...
@@hydrovacattack6269 They boost your K\D at the price of economy. Don't know what you do with your K/D honestly, and you also know that they are not players so you cannot even feel good about it.
@@OzzyTheWild It doesn't matter, it destroys the economy. Before we had RP and SLs for passive actions, being alive on point, near enemies, landing and taking off without time limiters. The rewards of kills\assists\captures are now CAPPED as well. The Medals gave more points, all of those got lowered substantially because (or with the excuse) of botting. The game is balanced on statistics, and 300.000 bots every day do a huge dent on the statistics of the game. And we don't even talk about the "feeling" side of things, when you pop out a 500% RP\SL boostersd and you spawn only to see that half your team is a bot 2S38 staying in base waiting to lock on the first helicopter\plane that pops out (Just to get bombed and killed because high tier CAS is done from way more than only 2.5km) For the same action, now you are getting extremly less compared to what it was, because (or with the excuse) of botting. But hey, as long as you got your dopamine because you see a "Target Destroyed" against a macro that needs to go from point a to point B and press space.
Tip in the F5E and F5C from personal experience, I've never had to drop afterburner to flare a missile, it feels like the engines are colder than the game says they are
in the 1990s Paraguay almost got 10 F-5Es from the Republic of China Air Force, but our government bought more UH-1Hs instead, as such, the Paraguayan Air Force has never operated supersonic jets rip
i love this plane especially when i was grinding the f16. only thing i had to get used to was decelerating enough to get rid of the mach cone during dogfights/any interaction.
You should try climbing at 20 degrees in the F5E. If you do, most of the time you end up above everyone else, and from there you can clean house pretty well. Since it's 10.7 you also don't have to worry much about pulse dopler SARHs or much of any radar missiles beyond the occasional R3Rs.
would not recommend unless you get a down tier, those f4e with sparrows will bully you at high altitudes. and for some reason all the 11.3 games have america on both teams so you will be fighting phantoms (or worse, looking at you f14a at 11.7).
@@nicks1221 I dont stay at high altitude and countering sparrows and dodging fights up there is easy. From there I go down and drop in behind enemies I know are flareless or not paying attention and they will get a 9J up their ass. I do this strat every game and I never die up top. and almost never run into F4Es. Anything you pass up there you just fly straight and they will either ignore you, or bleed all of their speed trying to turn.
@@nicks1221 i do it all the time and the only active fox1 threat up there are r3r from mig21 that prey on clueless folk. maybe if you climb towards the enemy climbing path you'd get fucked by them, but you're pretty much safe against anything that you can't see if you climb to your team climbpath
this thing is damn good. i carry the 30 mil gunpod just because it can, and 2 agm's for blind frogfoots or the bot harriers. Yall should try it. just fly from your right base towards the enemy airfield and you can headon lock at least 2 ppl
Tbh 20s bit OS'ing every time is something i'm strating to really like, it feels like the damage models are starting to actually matter, and truthfully it's not like a single 20mm burst is gonna OS it's target IRL either, heck 20s not being reliable enough is the whole idea behind somenations opting for the 30s :/
you haven't played the Draken yet and yes even if it got no flares, it's faster than a F104S so you are going to outpace most missiles, and since it now retains more energy than the MiG19 (bullshit, but J35A sold well) it will even be able to slowly zig zag to deplete the missile's speed
Had my best air rb game ever yesterday in the f5e, 9 players kills, 6 of those kills were when i was the last one left... It wont surprise anyone to know that i did still lose that game because I ran out of fuel dogfighting the last 2 enemies. Heartbreaker
The poor little premium kids were getting annihilated on their little Su-25s, A-10s and A-6s...so good, merciful Gayjin nerfed the missiles resistance to flares. That didn't work, so they nerfed the missiles range. That didn't work, because guns still existed. So they nerfed gun ballistics. That also didn't work, so they nerfed gun damage. Which also didn't work. Next step is making guns susceptible to flares...
Go back to God while you still can God Bless you all Amen and praying to Mary is Blasphemy and pig is haram cussing is also haram and crystals to because its witchcraft and dont use the Lords name in vain 👍🏻
@@MrKamper_ lmao true, i remember shooting 130~ 30mm HE shells into an SU25, oh and it also loves living thru missiles, oh and ive lived thru a gepard and a sidam both shooting me for a solid 10 seconds and killed the gepard, to say the SU25 doesnt have a broken damage shows you only main russia
I barely understand props after 3 years. I simply don't have a clue on jet combat and all my kills are luck. Any general tips from you all would be great.
yoo indonesian air force skin let's gooo. also yeah, the guns on F-5 are weird to aim like to the point i can barely score hits on targets flying straight and and can only hit if i'm doing leading shots. they are definitely an upgrade to when i first use F-5 tho, the guns used to be literal peashooter and you'd never get any instant kills with it. you used to have to wait for the enemy to crash from aerodynamic faliure
I just started playing War Thunder and am currently on the F4 in rank 2 and p400 and do not know which route to take any advice on whether i should take the f14 or f16, I'm aware I would also get the f5e if I do go towards the f16 route so I'm not sure because of the iconic tomcat.
people talk about weird planes bombing, I saw a Yak-141 bombing. the guy's stats were 2500+ games in the USS Helena with 1500 ish kills and 12 or so top tier premiums and half a dozen top jets all with 0 kills and hundreds of matches... seems like normal human behaviour
The cannons are good, though they're no Head-on sniper rifles. It's better to play Rugby with the F5E's maneuverability, then turn on the enemy(s) once you're past. #Maneuverability Gang
I have always thought the high tier U.S. HE rounds have been dogwater, so I stay away from them as much as possible. I was using the universal belts (2x API, 1X HE) with the F-5E and it felt NUCLEAR! Things were just melting in front of me.
Video on f5a? Im going to grind it after i finish the ptz89 and need a cas jet with my ztz99-II, a5c is good but no smart munitions and my potato pc has a hard time rendering tanks, planes and especially helis even at close range
"why are so many people bombing in kfirs?" Cause even with a full bombload that thing is fast enough to nearly gaurentee that you are 1st to the bases, so consistent points for grinding.
The Chinese F-5A is so sad in comparison. Same BR, same missiles, actually more flares/chaff, but it's the 5A, so at 10.7 and facing the US's 5A/C and E every game, it's pain. Was trying to fly it recently but I'd literally rather fly one of the flare-less 10.7 F-104's. At least that has speed and more missiles. And the Chinese 5E is also literally 10.7 so there's absolutely zero reason to play the Chinese F-5A anyway.
Somehow I saw your video seconds after release and I was wondering if you look at the comments in the first 20 mins or you wait for people to have the time to watch the video
Finally I can watch something while I eat my breakfast
i think we’re ipad kids bro
Same dude lmao
Nah iPhone kids are better
Same
@@bluefish_1242IPads were a lot of kids childhood. How is iPhone better
10.7 is a crazy mm, It gets loads of downtiers to 10.0/10.3 and gets to club premiums. Essentially, if it’s 10.7, it’s good.
10.3 Planes are really good too, MF, F8E, F5C
Agree, this is the same for 10.7 ground RB and 10.7 air RB
and now i found you here
still gets wrecked by magic missiles and migs that are all both faster and more manuverable.
I am always getting uptiers now after the sales
“More fragmentation my ass” *while shooting at the A-10 warthog’s bathtub*
I play the 5.7 F4u a lot and it feels like the cannons are good again. Granted I only play it in custom battles with friends because it’s at a terrible br, but still they feel good to use again
its at a good enough br, it can outrun, outturn or outclimb most things at a similar br, while having really good guns
@@jaydenlee3091 I’m talking about the planes at it’s br. It can fight them but it never gets the chance because the entire enemy team is usually all ju-288s
@@jaydenlee3091and amount of ammo that is corsair carrying is just insane, you can just spam 20mm
The 5.7 Ki84 feels like it's guns got buffed too, even with default belts it feels much better then before.
Something else I’ve noticed is the F-5E/F-5C is a much ‘colder’ aircraft than a lot of other aircraft at their BR. What that means is, unless I’m using an AiM-9L or something with a sensitive seeker, I have to close to within 2km to use a missile, where if it was a MiG-21 I’d be able to shoot within 3-4km. Even if the F-5 is using afterburner.
The odd thing is I found using ground belts on air-craft doing more damage then air
4:50 was a very based R530 kill and cinematic AF too
It was actually my intention to miss all of my shots to watch him do that 😎
@@_Joobpls play the f4f early so I can learn from your playstyle I'm using it to grind my rank 6 aircraft
You see a lot of Kfir, Milan and premium jets bombing and dieing \ running to enemy base because all of them are bots. Bot is huge in the game and will actually kill it in the long run if not addressed. For ARB at that BR, there are 3 to 6 bots every match PER TEAM.
Indeed. It's even worse in naval. Either Gaijin pulls their head out of their asses and starts a crusade against bots, however difficult it may be, or the game will suffer for it...
i love bots cause they boost my K/D lol
@@hydrovacattack6269 They boost your K\D at the price of economy. Don't know what you do with your K/D honestly, and you also know that they are not players so you cannot even feel good about it.
@@aldocarulli3054still gives the same amount of rp and sl
@@OzzyTheWild It doesn't matter, it destroys the economy.
Before we had RP and SLs for passive actions, being alive on point, near enemies, landing and taking off without time limiters.
The rewards of kills\assists\captures are now CAPPED as well. The Medals gave more points, all of those got lowered substantially because (or with the excuse) of botting.
The game is balanced on statistics, and 300.000 bots every day do a huge dent on the statistics of the game.
And we don't even talk about the "feeling" side of things, when you pop out a 500% RP\SL boostersd and you spawn only to see that half your team is a bot 2S38 staying in base waiting to lock on the first helicopter\plane that pops out (Just to get bombed and killed because high tier CAS is done from way more than only 2.5km)
For the same action, now you are getting extremly less compared to what it was, because (or with the excuse) of botting. But hey, as long as you got your dopamine because you see a "Target Destroyed" against a macro that needs to go from point a to point B and press space.
saw thumbnail thought you uploaded 2 videos already on the new plane
Idk if this is the best option for ammo types but i actually use API or AP belts because of realshatter and they actually feel amazing
I do this for pretty much every belt in game
i gave up on the belts and use air targets to fuck up their FM so they can't escape if they're still not dead
I mainly use AP ammo with the F-5 I think it do more damage and very effective against the SU-25
Tip in the F5E and F5C from personal experience, I've never had to drop afterburner to flare a missile, it feels like the engines are colder than the game says they are
in the 1990s Paraguay almost got 10 F-5Es from the Republic of China Air Force, but our government bought more UH-1Hs instead, as such, the Paraguayan Air Force has never operated supersonic jets
rip
The lower tiered F-16
TNI AU Les go🔥, love that most ppl use this skin for the F-5 or the Marinir skin for the PT-76
i love this plane especially when i was grinding the f16. only thing i had to get used to was decelerating enough to get rid of the mach cone during dogfights/any interaction.
Yeah I hate the shock cone
lol first world problems 😂. i mean i get it but .. jeez man, thats a nice problem to have tbh
@@ImAzraa you're coping...in a war thunder comment section.
Did yall not have difficulty aiming the nose guns?
you can delete mach cone on effects so u wont ever see a cone :)
You should try climbing at 20 degrees in the F5E. If you do, most of the time you end up above everyone else, and from there you can clean house pretty well. Since it's 10.7 you also don't have to worry much about pulse dopler SARHs or much of any radar missiles beyond the occasional R3Rs.
F-4E reaching 11K with a 50 degree angle: 👁️👄👁️
would not recommend unless you get a down tier, those f4e with sparrows will bully you at high altitudes. and for some reason all the 11.3 games have america on both teams so you will be fighting phantoms (or worse, looking at you f14a at 11.7).
@@nicks1221 I dont stay at high altitude and countering sparrows and dodging fights up there is easy. From there I go down and drop in behind enemies I know are flareless or not paying attention and they will get a 9J up their ass. I do this strat every game and I never die up top. and almost never run into F4Es. Anything you pass up there you just fly straight and they will either ignore you, or bleed all of their speed trying to turn.
@@nicks1221 i do it all the time and the only active fox1 threat up there are r3r from mig21 that prey on clueless folk. maybe if you climb towards the enemy climbing path you'd get fucked by them, but you're pretty much safe against anything that you can't see if you climb to your team climbpath
this thing is damn good. i carry the 30 mil gunpod just because it can, and 2 agm's for blind frogfoots or the bot harriers.
Yall should try it. just fly from your right base towards the enemy airfield and you can headon lock at least 2 ppl
You gotta use armoured targets for the F-5. Full incendiary belt no HE.
Gunpod on f5e can get you some nutty kills.
I love the F-5E till they increased the rep cost. Idk what the rep cost now tho
Tbh 20s bit OS'ing every time is something i'm strating to really like, it feels like the damage models are starting to actually matter, and truthfully it's not like a single 20mm burst is gonna OS it's target IRL either, heck 20s not being reliable enough is the whole idea behind somenations opting for the 30s :/
Ada indonesia cuy (nice decal btw, where can i get it?)
Nice skin...
ADA INDONESIA CUY!!!!
"why is everybody in the sky? Maybe cuz we're in airplanes" goated line @Joob
What belts are you using as armoured targets work wonders
Hey joob I have an idea for a future video
YOU should play the A6M2-N as it is the funny hydroplane
nice skin (im indonesian), love your playing!
f5e is the probably one of the most enjoyable planes in the entire game btw
you haven't played the Draken yet
and yes even if it got no flares, it's faster than a F104S so you are going to outpace most missiles, and since it now retains more energy than the MiG19 (bullshit, but J35A sold well) it will even be able to slowly zig zag to deplete the missile's speed
That no fuel, low ammo kill is the reason why i still come back to play War Thunder 🤣
Joob is a true Chad. Got the good music taste and knows his cars 💯
Had my best air rb game ever yesterday in the f5e, 9 players kills, 6 of those kills were when i was the last one left... It wont surprise anyone to know that i did still lose that game because I ran out of fuel dogfighting the last 2 enemies. Heartbreaker
This plane can face off MIG-29 head on, but only if the MIG-29 has ran out of BVR missiles.
Bro you just bait some Indonesians because your user skin....
Yeah, me included for some reason 🙃
The poor little premium kids were getting annihilated on their little Su-25s, A-10s and A-6s...so good, merciful Gayjin nerfed the missiles resistance to flares.
That didn't work, so they nerfed the missiles range.
That didn't work, because guns still existed. So they nerfed gun ballistics.
That also didn't work, so they nerfed gun damage.
Which also didn't work. Next step is making guns susceptible to flares...
The early TNI-AU camo looks nicer than the current one with Su-27 and F-16C
Actually Joob…… realshatter did buff something…. Low-mid tier US planes with .50 cals 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
BEYOND IIINNNSSSAAANNNEEE OUTRO!!!
Ada Indonesia coy 🇮🇩
I love the F-5E, but the guns just set fires and a10 monkeys are going to shoot these targets down
Can you play the Ariete at 9.3? Love that plane. Quite fun to dodge R60's and AIM9-L
F5-E has made 9.7-10.7 much more difficult for anyone who isn't playing American.
Go back to God while you still can God Bless you all Amen and praying to Mary is Blasphemy and pig is haram cussing is also haram and crystals to because its witchcraft and dont use the Lords name in vain 👍🏻
bro i have the f5c and it used to take 150-200 rounds to take out an su25k, i hope this buff is good lol
not true lmao skill issue
@@MrKamper_ 62.985.34.445
@@MrKamper_ lmao true, i remember shooting 130~ 30mm HE shells into an SU25, oh and it also loves living thru missiles, oh and ive lived thru a gepard and a sidam both shooting me for a solid 10 seconds and killed the gepard, to say the SU25 doesnt have a broken damage shows you only main russia
@@MrKamper_May I remind you that the Su-25k can tank 21+ stingers? The mg round comparison sounds reasonable lol
Use ground belts for f5c and f5e
I checked yesterday in the penetration (giggity) analysis and the fragmentation on the HE belts for the F-5E still sucks ass
20mm guns have been buffed, while 30mm have been left out. That’s so stupid to see 20mm doing more damage than frag 30mm…
I barely understand props after 3 years. I simply don't have a clue on jet combat and all my kills are luck. Any general tips from you all would be great.
everything around 10.0 is just dead matchmaker anyways considering roughly a third to a half of each game is bots
yoo indonesian air force skin let's gooo.
also yeah, the guns on F-5 are weird to aim like to the point i can barely score hits on targets flying straight and and can only hit if i'm doing leading shots. they are definitely an upgrade to when i first use F-5 tho, the guns used to be literal peashooter and you'd never get any instant kills with it. you used to have to wait for the enemy to crash from aerodynamic faliure
I’m trying to get better with the F-5E every time I turn a quarter of the way in this jet I black out so fast. What should I do?
U used to hate it at 11.0 before i got smacked at top tier now its such a good jet deacent missiles for br
M1A1, A7E, F5E, main 10.7 lineup
aa, light tank your choice 11
I just started playing War Thunder and am currently on the F4 in rank 2 and p400 and do not know which route to take any advice on whether i should take the f14 or f16, I'm aware I would also get the f5e if I do go towards the f16 route so I'm not sure because of the iconic tomcat.
F14 is good but not that great, the entire line (rank 7) are missile buses so yeah the f16 is the better option
"Why are so many people bombing in Kfirs?" Those are bots. Unfortunately.
1:03 inspirational words. "fuck it we ball and ball we fuck it." will go down in history along with Socrates
thats the indonesia f-5 btw
Based using that TNI-AU skin, I love the camo since I'm indonesian lol
stop. arming. center. mass.
aim for the wings like u needed to back in the day vs bombers.
pink tape is the only thing i’ve been listening to while getting shafted with stock jets. lil uzi vert makes it a tad more tolerable
Give us Canbruh game play next. So many Doritos in this round.
people talk about weird planes bombing, I saw a Yak-141 bombing. the guy's stats were 2500+ games in the USS Helena with 1500 ish kills and 12 or so top tier premiums and half a dozen top jets all with 0 kills and hundreds of matches... seems like normal human behaviour
That's a bot btw. They're everywhere in top tier now, at least one per game
8:47 the F-1 and T-2s are flareless and their copycats of the jaguars
F-5E is the only plane i had a positive K/D while grinding modifications. Insanely strong at 10.7 and a lot of fun
Feel like you haven't played the F8e, have a 5 or 6 kd in that near bone stock in 10 matches
@@saturnascension Yeah F-8E is better IMO
OMG THAT WAS ME ON MY HUNTER F.58 WHO GOT TEAMKILLED BY THE A10 :D
make a video about the mig-21f-13 it shit at it br
its actually annoying to play against this plane at 10.7 i feel it outperfoms a lot of planes so hard
Every F-5 gansta 'til a J35 shows up. ;)
20mm american guns, u just use ground and shred, real shatter has ruined most cannons though
it should go back to 11.0 where current 12.0 go to 12.3
Whenever I’m engaging someone in the F-5E, I just get off WEP..the AMOUNT OF KILLS I’ve missed because of that damn super sonic cone is immeasurable
F-5E my beloved
Me when I Bucket we fall
Is it just me or does the aim7f kinda suck now?
The cannons are good, though they're no Head-on sniper rifles. It's better to play Rugby with the F5E's maneuverability, then turn on the enemy(s) once you're past. #Maneuverability Gang
And do you like the block 10 netz or mig-29 better
I have always thought the high tier U.S. HE rounds have been dogwater, so I stay away from them as much as possible.
I was using the universal belts (2x API, 1X HE) with the F-5E and it felt NUCLEAR! Things were just melting in front of me.
certified F5E moment
wait there TNI AU F5-E skin in Gaijin store?
Video on f5a? Im going to grind it after i finish the ptz89 and need a cas jet with my ztz99-II, a5c is good but no smart munitions and my potato pc has a hard time rendering tanks, planes and especially helis even at close range
Day 7 of asking joob to play the yak 38m
Dat Indonesian Air Force camouflage tho
6:03 mans really been waiting a long time for the 2nd episode💀
"why are so many people bombing in kfirs?" Cause even with a full bombload that thing is fast enough to nearly gaurentee that you are 1st to the bases, so consistent points for grinding.
Can we review bomb War Thunder so they remove real shatter?
the onoly reason i watch video is that livery that he use
TBH the m20's feel the same to me as before realshatter, really shitty.
The HE just feels like it lights things on fire better which is fine i guess.
People bombing in fighters is a fucking plague
God DAMN, I wish enemies are as shitty as your are when I'm playing. Our are those paid actors like DEFYN has?
Can you try to play the Mystere IVA? It’s kinda pain but it’s able to turn fight a Sabre. But it shits it’s speed
The Chinese F-5A is so sad in comparison. Same BR, same missiles, actually more flares/chaff, but it's the 5A, so at 10.7 and facing the US's 5A/C and E every game, it's pain. Was trying to fly it recently but I'd literally rather fly one of the flare-less 10.7 F-104's. At least that has speed and more missiles.
And the Chinese 5E is also literally 10.7 so there's absolutely zero reason to play the Chinese F-5A anyway.
It might be worse, but it still is pretty good and it makes the grind for the F5e faster + you’ll have experience when playing the F5e after
@@OzzyTheWild I know all that, it's still just sad though.
I pretty much always bring max since whenever I land I always end up with only 2 minutes left.
i use the premium su 22 m3 and i kill these things left and right
p39s are great rn because they have guns that actually do things instead of all the depressing 20mm shots that do the same as a .50 cal
Somehow I saw your video seconds after release and I was wondering if you look at the comments in the first 20 mins or you wait for people to have the time to watch the video
F-5E still a war crime...
and I love it (mostly coz I abuse it)
Yesterday I uploaded a video of mine and when I rewatched it I had similar vibes to you (but worse in the game)
You threatened to team kill me.... I'm Aviel lmao