What Ever Happened To Star Fox Games?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 13 มิ.ย. 2024
- Star Fox has been a Nintendo mainstay since the SNES was popular in the 1990's. This franchise follows Fox McCloud as the leader of the Star Fox team, a group of ragtag freedom fighters who pilot advanced starship fighters called arwings. The series also follows his allies such as Falco Lombardi, Slippy Toad, Peppy Hare and Krystal. The series also has several villains and anti-heroes who recurringly appear throughout, such as Pigma Dengar, Wolf O'Donnell and Andross. While not the first flight simulator or air combat game, Star Fox helped popularize the genre through it's arcade style and anthropomorphic charms. The Star Fox franchise sold millions of copies for Nintendo and is easily one of their most recognizable franchises. With that said, what ever happened to the Star Fox series? where did it go? #starfox #nintendo #gaming
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I had actually never heard of this game series before but now I’m really interested. It’s too bad that so many companies just leave their best stuff to be forgotten
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I recommend playing if given the chance, there absolute gems, either by getting the necessary platform or via emulation.
It's a real shame that more people don't watch these videos.
Aw well thank you. I appreciate it. Hopefully eventually.
@@DegenerateJay I heard reports that Nintendo is bringing Starfox back, but the question is when will that happen. The first reason reason Nintendo abandoned Starfox was not because of Krystal, it was because of fans being ungrateful about Adventures and Assault which it along with 64 were great games and still are. The second reason was Command. Hopefully, someone who still cares about Starfox will undo the damage called Command and stop making reboots of 64 (like Zero)! We don’t need that! We need a true sequel to assault that takes place in the middle of Command but instead of the bad endings, let’s just call it bad dreams the characters are having, we need Fox and Krystal’s relationship restored permanently. That bit they added about Krystal turning to Andross’s side despite torturing her in adventures and causing destruction to her home planet deserves to be erased and forgotten! Nintendo deliberately did that just to satisfy the haters!
@@Wildboyz6913 this. Never understood that move. Maybe if andros would mind control her...
@@Njordin2010 Nah, that’s impossible. Andross was destroyed. Could be an evil clone.
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I'm greatful to Star Fox and support the franchise
I played Adventures, Assault, Zero, And Guard
Adventures was Good
Assault was amazing
Zero was Great
Guard was good
Also, the Star Fox characters' designs in Smash Ultimate are the best. In my opinion even better than their designs from their own series.
The design in smash ultimate is based off their own games 💀
@@thegreatestever913 The designs in Ultimate are heavily inspired by the designs used in Star Fox Command
I'm not @'ing you as much as I am trying to add to your response 👍🏼
@@savaget2058 it's a mix of Star Fox Command and Star Fox Zero
@@thegreatestever913 correct.
Star Fox is by far my all time favorite Nintendo game series ever after my first time playing the 64 game I was hooked to it I wanted to see more of it and for Zero’s failure for the controls made me sad and worried for the series and then Starlink came and I loved how they added Star Fox to it it felt great was like they should rename it to be a Star Fox game if they took Starlink’s style of gameplay with a bit of the on rail and ground play I think it would work and adding some little things to make the game interesting like customization on ur Arwing character or anything like that it might work but idk I really hope that Star Fox makes an epic return and will be my all time favorite game.
Yeah
Very hard to read this but yeah I agree
Yes! Exactly!
@@Gladiator0161 Rail shooters I recommend are Ex Zodiac, gridd retroenhanced, and Astrodogs all of which you can play on Switch.
Another option that really looked like Starfox is (Whisker Squadron: Survivor). However thats only on Steam.
another thing you guys might have missed was about Starlink:
no, it was not just an arwing, the full star fox team is playable and fully integrated into the story, along with two extra side stories featuring them and Star Wolf as main villains for both the main game and DLC portions.
Starlink deserved a bit more recognition from the fans, imo. this could be the best course of action for the series to go forward in a future Star Fox game.
Yes and most of its sales were for the switch versions of the game. 82% of the sales
I gave it a shot but I feel like they merely used the team as figurines.
They don’t feel much like the team and the other characters don’t do either. Especially Wolf. They just made him an “ah I’m gonna take over the world!” villain instead of actually writing him accordingly to how he was before.
@@TulpechaidoplaysMC Rail shooters I recommend are Ex Zodiac, gridd retroenhanced, and Astrodogs all of which you can play on Switch.
Another option that really looked like Starfox is (Whisker Squadron: Survivor). However thats only on Steam.
It wasn't just the Arwing that appeared in Starlink; Star Fox and Star Wolf themselves showed up (And the writing for them was amazing by the way)
Zero's control scheme was just horrid, which was another reason why it failed. It is sad because I think without it, along with it being on the Wii U, it would had done better. Also, Command was horrid. The story sucked and they went full on soap opera with a lot of characters acting wicked OOC.
It is sad bc 64, Adventures and Assault are among my favorite games of all time. A sequel to Assault would be awesome!
Yeah, a proper sequel to Assault would be better. Command in truth was a waste of time, and like what you said it was a soap opera, some of which felt conflicting to the lore, at least what I feel like anyway
@@gunstrokethecybertronian8659 I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
It’s too bad that Nintendo killed Star Fox due to their own incompetence. They need to learn that you don’t need to reinvent the wheel every time. All you have to do is come up with a new story, refine the gameplay that works, and maybe add in a minor gimmick to see if it works.
I was a little bit disappointed that you guys didn’t talk about the Dinosaur Planet build that was leaked earlier this year. Although, then again the video was mostly about Star Fox, and that would have made it longer than it needed to be. The reason why they made the change was because Mini Munchkin (I can’t remember how his name is spelled, and he’s the reason this franchise is dead) thought that Sabre looked like Fox so he wanted them to change the game.
My biggest problem with Command was the atrocious story. The thing had multiple ending, and most of them were terrible. They also completely ruined Krystal’s character.
I really like the atmosphere of Adventures. Although, I will admit that it doesn’t fit very well with Star Fox. It should be judged as it’s own thing kind of like how Doom 3 was too different from the originally but is still really good as it’s own thing. One thing I find absolutely hilarious is how if Krystal and other female characters were real they’d most likely be disgusted by their “fans” and how they’ve been portrayed. It’s too bad that most people only see Krystal is furrybait, and not an actual character.
I think the biggest problem with Star Fox Zero was how the game had the worst controls in the series. I’m not going to go into detail because lots of other people already have, and I mostly agree with them. Take away the bad controls and the game is a mediocre remake of 64 which was a remake of 1. The reason for that is because they had originally planned on releasing episodic campaign/missions. Sadly the game flopped, and now we most likely won’t get a continuation. If it was on Switch the game would be a lot better.
The problem with having Zero be a prequel while simultaneously making a sequel to Command is that both games are in different universes. Now I know that Nintendo never officially came out and said there were different timelines. But, each reboot has it’s own continuity. You have 1 and 2. 64, Adventures, Assault (Assault is one of my favorites), and Command. And finally Zero/Guard.
I really hope that the original people who worked on Star Fox get a second chance where they can go all out. My ideal game would be like Assault. Luckily we have fan games like UndyingNephilim’s game, and this reimagining of Adventures. Let’s hope that Nintendo doesn’t stomp both of those. Nintendo really should just sell the rights so that somebody else can make a proper game that doesn’t have a bunch of weird gimmicks, and continues the story.
Interestingly I have both minis and Starlink. But I haven’t gotten around to playing them. I have a lot of games that I haven’t played yet because I will usually hyper fixate on one game until I 100% it.
Don’t take any of this as an insult. I really liked the video. I was just pointing out some of the minor issues. I will be sure to check out your other videos.
Nintendo didn't kill Star Fox the fans did bcuz every time they tried something new that fit the Star Fox meta fans whined bcuz it wasn't like The Lylat Wars
This resulted in a 64 remake over and over and over
While that is true to an extent (the manbabies in the fandom refuse to acknowledge that Assault was the best game), there’s no escaping the fact that Nintendo screwed over the franchise by forcing them to add a new gimmick each game. Zero is a prime example of this where it’s bogged down by the absolute worst control scheme ever created, and was launched on the WiiU. If they were to put the game on Switch without those awful controls, and let Platinum Games episodically release content like originally intended would be a hit.
Nintendo literally invented the wheel, then reinvented the wheel, then reinvented the wheel...
@@shreksnow1918 the controls weren't even bad...
Man, I miss the Starfox series so much. 64 will always be my fav game of the bunch but I also LOVED Adventures. Some of the boss fights could use tweaks/reworks/upgrades if they ever do a remake for Adventures but otherwise fantastic game. My only main gripe with it was the plot bait-n-switch with General Scales and Andross.
We need SOME sort of Star Fox love for the Switch. Even if they have to start again with a fresh reboot from the ground up to relaunch the franchise for a new generation. Give us SOMETHING.
I completely agree! Since Metroid did get another release I'm at least somewhat hopeful for Star Fox to show up again as well!
@@DegenerateJay I'm probably in the minority here but I wouldn't mind a direct sequel for the more fantasy style of Adventures. Like if they did a Star Fox Adventures 2 I'd be in heaven.
And Metroid dread was fantastic and breathed new life into the series, hopefully setting up hype for Metroid prime 4.
I've got some amazing ideas for a new starfox game, and assault had the most potential in terms of story, gameplay and direction.
so I think if Nintendo were wise, they would release it during a popular phase of the switch, say, a couple of months after breath of the wild 2, put money heavily into marketing, and finally, progress the series past andross. Or at least, don't make it another remake.
@@lordcheesus1013 I recommend ex zodiac, It'a very similar to Starfox.
Assault is by far my most favorite game. It just hits all the right feels for me. Yes, the controls might not be as refined at 64, but if there's one thing that Assault is sympathy for the characters.
The dying struggle against the Aparoids and seeing them unite together. Fox and Wolf have a mutual understanding knowing if we don't work together, we will die. It's the best told story of any game and I love the characters. Please, remake it for Switch and make a new game following the 64 timeline
Nintendo should focus on Star Fox Assault - continuing the stories and the characters from here - instead of constantly re-releasing Star Fox 64. It was the perfect successor to Star Fox Adventures. Wolf had the best design there and real character development.
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
People said that Star Fox should be an only spaceflight rail- shooting game but people also forget that the Star Fox team is a group of mercenaries! I don't think the on-foot missions isn't a bad idea, the problem is the controls to help execute what they can really do but due to the limitations of the controls they can't never really do anything past those limitations and also any changes / last-minute takeaways due to the developers and their ideas. If they had all the good stuff from Star Fox 64, Adventures, Assault, and even Zero. Then make The Mercenaries on-foot missions being close to sin and punishment and/or potentially be Cutscenes only. Then the next Star Fox game could be the best one we could have in this entire series. Even a few things from StarLink could make it even better.
Yeah the games are good. Its a shame there are great games a majority of people don't care about anymore so we don't get more of them. It's pretty much like spyro and crash bandicoot in that regard crash had a over decade long period with no new games. That's just how is companys just play it safe nowdays and won't do anything that may not sell.
@@cosmicsvids I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
I would like to get a new Starfox. Problem is, Nintendo doesn't care about or thoughts and feelings and they'll remake red and blue for the Kajillionth time
Dude star fox the one for GameCube was one of the funnest games ever played! That’s where I was always fox and my brother was Falco till this day we both think about that game and how much fun it was because you could fly the xX-wings , shoot guns and fly with jet packs !
Starfox could be argued as a one hit wonder and I say this as a Starfox fan.
I disagree
Man this is a fantastic series. I love it.
I KNOWWWWWWWWWWW
This is wild that this video popped in my feed. I’m a music producer myself and I’m working on my next EP called SF6-4 and the intent of the project is paying a tribute to Star Fox 64. I really do feel that Fox should have a much bigger fan base than what it does currently
I mean, you guys kind of glossed over one of the main reasons Zero failed. People HATED the motion sensor controls. That was the whole gimmick for Zero, & many people just hated how it felt to control. Not saying everyone felt that way, but that seemed to be the general consensus, I also think people were put off by the way Zero rebooted the series lore & just went for a Star Fox 64 re-imagining for its story & aesthetic when 64 was already a re-imagining of OG Star Fox & 64 had a remake on 3DS. It just became played out by that point.
Why are there no elephants on the Star fox team?
Because Elephants are too difficult to animate.
I love Nintendo IP’s! I’m glad you’re making more videos surrounding them
I actually like adventures and assaults', i thought they were good games with assault being the better one of the two.
In terms of character designs, Adventures was my least favorite but I do find Assault to be a bit better.
Man, SF 64 is amazing. Easily on my top 5 favorites from the N64. I hope SF happens soon, even SFZero was good, aside from the damn controls.
I'm one of those how also likes Assault.
Nintendo tends to bury IPs that are not Zelda or Mario. F-Zero, Golden Sun, Punch Out, Kid Icarus. Speaking of which, would you be willing to do F-Zero or Golden Sun next?
Cool series, man!
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
I love star fox. I’ve been playing star link solely because of star fox.
Whatever happened to Star Fox? The same thing that happened to Robot Jones, predictability, the milkman, the paperboy, evening TV...
It's like they're going out of their way to ignore Star Fox at this point and I'm getting really annoyed that Nintendo never made any of new Star Fox games at all.
They should sell hd package games of star Fox on switch. Adventure/Assault Command/3d Zero/Guard. NO remakes of Nes Snes 64 games.
not sure if you guys missed this at the time of recording, but Zero underperformed due to the controls, not exactly the rest.
while the rest wasnt the best and it was yet another reboot of SF64, the real issue were the controls and how were forced in such a way nobody had a better option.
people at the time were tired of the Wii U gamepad and this game forced you to not only use motion for aiming but also two screens to look at two perspectives. this screen view issue would've worked nicely on 3ds, but on Wii U it was horrid to work with, so yeah, as crazy as it sounds, the controls were more than enough to be a dealbreaker.
any other issues were just the cherry on top.
would make the next game openworld like Ubisoft Starlink (fix some smaller issues, citys on planets so they look more alive) and would combine all the old games into one big, change some story things (female pilots from 2 are in the story, smaller things) and when the game is liked make a new one wich continue Starfox for real
I really hoping to see star fox on switch in the new year. With returning characters like krystal bill grey panther Amanda and Fay. And new star fox amiibo’s. And I wish to see star fox assault hd on switch soon.
Well we have Starlink🤡💀
I enjoy imagining a new Star Fox game for the Switch that would acknowledge all the previous games (except Command) and utilizes the best features from them. Having it feature flying, land combat, walking phoenix, and tower defense levels together would make it a great way to bring in current and new players.
Plus I think it would be cool to bring in Miyu and Fay from Star Fox 2 and have Krystal back without ruining her character and storyline.
Heck, while we’re at it, why not bring in obscure characters such as Fara Phoenix? I’ve noticing she’s gotten some fan popularity ever since the Star Fox fan series A Fox in Space started.
I grew up with the 1993 game and it blew my mind at the time because it felt like 3D to me. Then, Starfox 64 exceeded it. After Fox got out of the Arwing and it got gimmicky, it just didn't feel like Starfox anymore. I never got a Wii U so I didn't play Zero. I hope someday the franchise can come back, hopefully true to its original format. I can't think of any other rail shooters in modern video games?
I like to say something. For starters, how come Krystal and Panther didn't show up in Star fox zero? Also, Dinosaur Planet, Deserves to be played on Nintendo switch. Krystal deserves her own game. Whoever made Dinosaur Planet needs to complete it (the original version, with the unused character Sabre, not the star fox adventures version). So uhh yeah.
Hry great video guys! I want a sequal to Star Fox assault
Didn't Zero have the weird gimmick where you aimed with the touch pad and flew looking at the TV?
Yeah and I had not much problem with it. You get used to it after while.
Underrated video.
Star Fox resurrection. Let's make it.
It would be cool if the new Star Fox game was an open world game similar to Breath of the Wild with on foot missions but instead of using a staff, you use a blaster and maybe a reflector. (Smash Ultimate has the best blaster design imo) Maybe also interacting with the Great Fox would be a cool idea, kinda like having your own home base.
Star Fox Odyssey ! Hell yeah! Imagine walking around corneria for the first time!
Love this idea! :)
Honestly that is probably the best way to go for starfox. Give it the BOTW moment. Have it mix assault and starlink then they could have something to bring this fox back on its feet.
@@BeyondtheAgesStudios Nintendo would have to hire a third party company to make that kind of game, since Nintendo in house is too busy with other projects.
@@kurokamina8429 I recommend Bot Vice, the gameplay is similar to Assault.
I miss the Star fox games so much.
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
@@orangeslash1667 gotcha
1.) Adventures
2.) 64
3.) Assault
4.) Star Fox 2
5.) Wii U
6.) Star Fox
7.) Command
1. Star Fox Assault
2. Star Fox 2
3. Star Fox 64 3D
4. Star Fox zero
5. Star Fox 64
7. Star Fox
I can't rate adventures or command because I haven't played them
Can you do one of these about Donkey Kong? Always loved DK Country 1, 2, 3 on the SNES. My childhood
Nintendo, just let Project Aces do the next Star Fox game.
This. This right here. This makes me happy.
Literally searched up starfox on the eShop and not a single game popped up that's what I call a dead series 🥺 and it sucks cause I love adventures and assault I even love command
Should've taken the concept of starfox 2 and made it on the n64/gamecube would have been really cool
That would have been really awesome actually!
I love star fox games, I have a Wii u and I had no idea there was a star fox game for it
I remember being really hyped for the new Toy to life star fox game. But months went by and i never heard of it, no coverage nothing.
I remember hearing about a Star Fox and Metroid crossover game, but it was just a rumour.
Command was peak for me.
I hate that Starfox is just "64 again".
I will always say Assault is better than 64.
It had alot of creativity as a series until the 3ds Era.
Assault was peak for me too
Assault is as underrated as 64 is overrated.
@@forrestannis909 I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
Honestly, I thought Star Fox Zero was the worst game in the series, it grabbed so much good stuff and mushed it into trash, totally ignoring there own canon and removing core components such walking on foot. I personally would love to see Star Fox return in the form of Star Fox Assault mixed with the necessary modern game enhancements, and have it be a sequel to Assault rather than Command, and at this point I think on foot is mandatory, it is now a core component of the series and should be respected as such. Honestly, Nintendo giving up on Star Fox is what made me give up on Nintendo, there loss I suppose.
You know something that isn't talked about is how much these games have had on foot gameplay. Going back to starfox 2 with the walker which is the closest to on foot at the time. Then 64 with the landmaster and actual on foot in the multiplayer. Adventures obviously being a zelda like game, assault being a mix of classic with 3rd person style, and zero with the walkers funny enough.
So really on foot gameplay was always there but I feel like Adventures unfortunately left a bad taste when it comes to on foot.
I am on the starfox side that says yeah keep on foot gameplay because it just adds variety to the gameplay and assault was the closest to handling it.
@@kurokamina8429 I recommend Bot Vice, the gameplay is similar to Assault.
I hate Nintendo for ruining starfox. I want them to bring that awesome space shooting with great music and that’s all we need. No foot walking running and shooting and no hand to hand fighting. Just pure simple space shooting. Why is that so hard Nintendo?
In terms of overarching story, 64 is basically a remake of the first game and Zero is more or less a remake of 64. On those grounds, I think it's agreeable that the non gimmicky games are the same thing again.
Loved the video! Shame what happened to Star Fox. I'd love to see video on Pikmin. It sucks but it seems like it just never took off here in the states.
It would be cool to see a new starfox
The problem with StarFox is the development of the games; The implementation of the gimmick is always the leading factor as to why the games fail, never the idea. The split fan-base was another factor, but small compared to the development and management of said games. It begun with the cancellation of 2 and from there on Nintendo just scavenged the corpse for mechanics and playstyles. The only two reasons why people were mixed on Assault was the lack of mechanics from prior games and the length of the game. This goes back to development where Immamura and the Namco team were waiting on the executives to find an agreement with Myiamoto and the game featuring online multiplayer.
I could go on, but in short, on-foot is not bad because 64 zealots have the pitch of an opera singer, but because Miyamoto and the others at Nintendo couldn't find stable ground where Sakurai did.
It was mechanics, length and on foot controls. Fixing length and the on foot controls can be simple enough but lack of mechanics which I'm guess is the split paths is a different story I feel as it has a great potential to clash the story assault was telling.
@@kurokamina8429 I recommend Bot Vice, the gameplay is similar to Assault.
They should make a 3D New star fox game
I have never heard of these games but they look good
Do you know of any places selling them and can i play on a Nintendo 3ds xl
I know at least the 3ds release of Star Fox 64 is on the 3DS XL. Unsure about digital.
@@visionary1138 thx
Why was I just asking myself this very same question as I was browsing Nintendo online last night
Star Fox Zero should've been given a control overhaul and a second chance on Wii U. There were lesser games that got a second shot. That said, the series did peak at 64, though I also really like Assault (and found some enjoyment in Command). It's a shame the series has been dormant so long. Same with F-Zero, Punch-Out (which definitely should've had a sequel after the Wii release) and Wave Race. Nintendo sits on too many IP.
The reason Nintendo ends many IP's is because they runout of ideas.
So, here's my experience & observations where Star Fox is concerned. As you said the sales started out good with the 1st couple entries & then started dwindling. I remember watching the E3 event where they revealed Star Fox Assault & I heard the audience boo! They booed! They booed it & it made me furious. I understood the dislike for Adventures, & so could understand the disappointment with the reveal for Assault but, there were good things about those games too. The fans back then were so caught up in the rage & disappointment that they forgot that. They forgot to enjoy the game for what it was.
This rage & disappointment from the fans didn't help Nintendo's sales either but, the true reason for the series disappearing for so long is because Nintendo, like the fans, didn't listen, didn't think objectively, & didn't learn. Each game that came out after Assault, I enjoyed for the most part but, when Zero came out it might as well have been the nail in the coffin.
Zero's focused gimmicks with the Game Pad is what sunk that game. Nintendo's refusal to learn, or listen, is what sunk that game, not the fans, or declining interest. Star Fox Zero looked beautiful, & there were other good things about Zero too but, the controls killed the game in a baaad way. Everyone said as much when Nintendo revealed that gimmick, & I unfortunately had to agree. Looking between 2 screens with accuracy being dependent on the Game Pad was a terrible idea for a game series that was already struggling. If they'd allowed the controls to be customized & remapped, or allowed the option to do away with the Game Pad gimmick alltogether, that might have made things better but, none of that was in Star Fox Zero. Unfortunately, for Star Fox, fans, myself included, were tired of the gimmicks being forced into Star Fox by the time Zero came out, & Nintendo never understood this & their sales suffered as a result.
I hope Nintendo reads this comment because, I genuinely love the series, & hate criticizing it. It hurts me to criticize it because Star Fox 64 was one of the 1st games I got when the N64 came out. I grew up with it.
I'm not saying the series can't change & that we need another Star Fox 64 remake, because that horse has been beaten to death. I'm just saying that Nintendo needs to focus much much less on gimmicks, & more on the characters, the story, the setting, refining the controls & decent level design.
I think you hit the nail on the head when you said that making a lot of money isn't good enough - a game has to make "all the money" or is seen as a flop and waste of resources.
Good point
Star fox command isn't cannon(confirmed by the voice actor of Krystal) it was released in a rush by Nintendo to make money quickly
Star Fox is a series that to me has enormous potential. The problem however is that each new dev they get to work on the game focuses on some new gimmick for each game, instead of expanding upon what already makes Star Fox a great gaming experience. It's one thing I'm actually pissed about how Nintendo has handled the Switch thus far. You have this portable console that sells like gangbusters, but they hardly try to reinvigorate some of their older franchises. Now would be the perfect time to experiment with a new Star Fox, F-Zero, Kid Icarus, or Earth bound. Instead we get this continually stream of mediocre Sports games. that get forgotten in a week.
The reason Zero did so bad is because of the motion controls. I haven't played any of the Starfox games since 64...i would rush to the store to buy a switch Starfox game just like Zero as long as there is no motion controls. Im sure I'm not the only one out there.
How many rail shooters sell well?
The problem with the fandom is if you churn out the same thing they criticize that it's stale. But when you change things up, the complaints are that the old stuff works so why mess with it?
That being said, it is frustrating when Miyamoto claims no one likes starfox when the problem is obvious that the game is subpar due to either control issues on a console that floundered or a game didn't make sense because it was literally a different IP with a story that had Star Fox shoved so violently into it that it needed to be housed in a abuse victim shelter.
Zero did awful because they messed up the controls really bad
Nintendo needs to reinvent star Fox and take advantage of todays tech. Imagine a brand new star Fox game on the switch. They need to move away from the on rail shooter type gameplay. Yes that is what they are famous for but they can do much more if it was more free roam type gameplay like some of the old Star Wars rogue squadron games from N64 and GameCube. They can do so much with this franchise
Honestly the only way to get starfox is to give it its BOTW moment. Let us play as the other characters along with their own unique ship, let us explore the lylat system like starlink. Let us out of our ship to further explore and for on foot combat. On rails can still be implemented on like some open world/ on rail racing games do it. Give us a new story, and no frickin gimmicks.
I would totally buy a star fox game again the only reason I didn’t continue after assault was because I went to PlayStation and I never got the Wii U ; but I have the switch and deft would but a star fox game , at least he’s in smash !
Star Fox Zero is actually a reimagining or reboot. If Star Fox Zero were to be ported as a stop gap like Skyward Sword HD is for Breath of the Wild 2, than it would be fine. But if they're counting on this game to save the series as a tempole title to test interest for a future release, then they're supporting a lost cause. It might do somewhat better sales wise, It would be like porting Mario Tennis Ultra Smash or Mario Party 10. They might not be bad games in their own right but seen as steps back in too many ways. The point of Star Fox Zero was to to make the Wii U look legit, The games features were inter locked. Even if they did port it, what we end up with is a game that lacked the content and ambition of past entries in a cycle of remakes and reimaginings.
I love Star Fox!
Great video, glad you mentioned the reference at the end to Starfox being a playable character in Starlink! That was actually awesome, and I wish Starfox franchise would go into an open world setting. Maybe even have an aspect where you get out of the ship but dont really NEED to unless your mining or building some base like in No Mans Sky, as sort of side quest or mini-game objectives.
Blame Miyamoto's obsession with gimmicks for the state of Star Fox
Donkey Kong?? In what world does Nintendo care about a game series that they haven't continued in about 10 years? The total sales of Donkey Kong Country Tropical Freeze Wii U (~2 million) & Switch (~3 million) still failed to match the sales of DKC Returns on the Wii alone (~10 million). Ever wonder why DK mysteriously disappeared after DKC TF? (Mario spin-offs like Mario Kart and Mario Party, notwithstanding)
If Donkey Kong weren't tied to Mario, that series would've ended up like Q*Bert today. It would've been long gone. Honestly, during its heyday, Rareware did more justice to DK than Nintendo ever did after the arcade game. Hell, the last DK games were both tied to a DK series created by Rareware. I'd have brought up something like Animal Crossing, for example.
With that said, DK's still better off than F-Zero and Earthbound. So, I guess that's something...
I would like Nintendo made a new StarFox game who is a chapter of the franchise not another stupid remake or a stupid remastered of the N64 game! Here's what happens in the new StarFox game that i imagine!
Yeah of course Krystal is going back since she appears only in the franchise games
Peppy decided to go back fly on his Arwing with Fox, Falco, Slippy and Krystal
Bill, Katt, Amanda, Lucy and Dash gonna returned
Marcus (Fox and Krystal's son) gonna appears and he gonna have two little sisters
Andrew decided to go back on the StarWolf team
Wolf gonna revived Pigma as a cyborg and he gonna rehired him
Andross returned since he was the main antagonist of StarFox
And last to finish this! Miyu and Faye (from the cancelled sequel of the SNES game) gonna appears
honestly i am not suprised about the low sales. having played the games back in the day i only really liked a handful of them.
1- was pretty alright
64- was this addictive masterpiece i could always return to.
adventures wasn't even really a star fox game (i did enjoy it's archwing sections tho)
assault was just forgetable and i really couldn't even bring myself to care.
2- was a pretty fun suprise. had a lot of fun with that one. (might have been in part the nostalgia i had for 1)
zero- was just sooooo bad. i got the game for free and still felt ripped off. the whole gameplay gimmick completly ruined it for me.
ii wouldn't might a new game, but even an amazing game wouldn't really help them.
not just because of lost fans and trust, but also because of it's nature. star fox is a really arcade-y series of games. these sort of games are simply no longer considered all that important. a new great gamew might do well at a 40$ price point, but lets be real here. nintendo would release it at full price and at that point you have to choose between it and all the other full price releases.
Nintendo should try to improve and expand the other franchises. Like Star Fox, F-Zero, Metroid, Kid Icarus, and the other series. I mean, when was the last time you heard about those games? Star Fox could be a golden opportunity for Nintendo to try something new instead of just giving them another game! Like how about giving them their very own show. I mean, there are tons of Sci-fi and anthropomorphization animals shows, comics, and movies over the years, so it is possible to create a Star Fox show. I was thinking of improving the character designs, personalities, giving them origins, character development as the story goes on, and rewriting the story like in Star Fox Adventures. I wouldn't make Krystal be a damsel in distress when she was trapped in a magic crystal until Fox saves her at the end of the game. I was thinking of making her the main character in the story. When she meets Fox for the first time, she doesn't like him at first. Because he's a stranger on her second home planet and tries to kill him because of misunderstanding, then they work things out and decide to work together to accomplish their goals while also getting to know each other more.
There's a lot you could do with it. A show, especially in anime form, seems like it would have a lot of potential. Also, if you think about it, I'm just surprised that they don't capitalize off those games more monetarily. I understand that they aren't the best selling things in the world, but there is a pretty dedicated flight simulator and flight fighter simulator gaming community and there's always more people who are interested in that. It might sound a bit silly, but a lot of people, especially young men in particular, have a very big passion for airplanes, trains, or cars, and those don't really go away they just change over time. I'm surprised that especially when you have series of games like Ace combat that don't actually release that often that Nintendo doesn't try to compete with them in their own way.
@@DegenerateJay I know what you mean. I think Nintendo doesn't know what to do with them. Or how to expand their story. I mean, Star Fox is like Sonic the Hedgehog meets every known Sci-Fi film and shows ever made. They should have tried something new and different with them. But no, they abandoned them along with other characters from other franchises over the years. Are they so afraid of criticism because they have no idea how to write a story? Have they ever considered trying something new instead of making more Mario, Legend of Zelda, Pokemon, Animal Crossing, Splatoon, Smash Bros games, toys, and Pokemon anime? Why not give the other Nintendo characters a chance of having their very own show or maybe new comics? I mean, Sega does it all the time with their characters! So why can't it be the same for the other guys? Honestly, a couple of Star Fox fans can do a much better job than the people who created the game. I saw a couple of Star Fox Adventure comics from Deviantart. They did a much better job of the story than the people who made the game.
F Zero and Star Fox sure, but what do you mean Metroid? Did you miss the release of Dread and that Metroid Prime 4 which yeah restarted but not cancelled.
@@francoperalta5986 Let me ask you something, when was the last time they made a Metroid game?
@@francoperalta5986 I didn't know Nintendo was going to make another Metroid game. I thought they forgot about it and focused more on the popular characters like Mario, Link, Kirby, Pokémon, and Splatoon since they always make more games about them every year.
I remember being really into Starfox, but I just lost interest because Nintendo seemed to loose interest
StarFox is the only game from Nintendo I like anymore. The rest is just...ugh
Disappointed Nintendo won't work on StarFox.
Basically how I feel
Well i think the folks who loved starfox aren't the same people who buy Wii Us on average
You didn’t mention star fox is in star link on the switch which is great but yeah they definitely need to port zero to the switch without the gimmicks
I looked up on cbr on superheros that will not kill and redhood was on it.
Star Fox is a space shooting game NOT A ACTION ADVENTURE CRA P!
Star Fox has always been about NIntendo's gimmicks, unfortunately. Zero proves unequivocally, that Nintendo's stance has not budged on that a single micron. Zero will never be released on the Switch because of its control/dual screen gimmick. It ruined it for me, and I started with the OG, played every game, and fell in love with the series at first sight.
Never cared for the Zelda franchise, but I loved Adventures. But Miyamoto shoving SF characters into Dinosaur Planet was more detrimental to Star Fox as an image and marketing identity and has not done the franchise any favors of fan retention, despite those of us who loved the franchise.
Assault was great, I thought. Multiplayer was enough to keep it in regular rotation with my siblings and I on the gamecube. But it wasn't perfect, and I guess a lot of people didn't like it.
Zero was the final nail. They put that game on the Wii U for a very important reason. To kill the franchise. What better burial than on a system that was doomed to die?
Would absolutely love to see a Mass Effect--esque iteration of the series, but that's nutty levels of production cost that will NEVER EVER be funneled into something like this franchise.
Enjoy what's there, kids. It was a hell of a ride.
I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
Reminds me of splinter cell
Well that's random but alright 🤣
The motion controls absolutely turned people off Zero. If they released it on the switch with better controls it'd 100% be a better accepted game!
No, Joycon controls would make it worse.
Its the same in what happened to the world
Bro whatttttt???? F-Zero is definitely more well off than Star Fox and I love Star Fox
Yeah and starlink proved that. Basically no one cared about starlink until they showed that fox would be in it and is playable. Then you look at the sales and 82% went to the nintendo switch because of starfox.
The reason star fox bombed cause they was trying to make it realistic but goofy at the same time everything was a joke with it the only realistic one really was the snes first one
Something that you guys didn't really talk about if not at all are effect of star fox's genre swapping and a new Comer coming across these games.
While yes there is slow decline but it did bring people in. You can see in online on youtube, the comment section that these games after 64 did bring to fans in such as myself. And that is the largely over looked because yes you are getting new fans but now complicating the situation. You've got multiple camps in the starfox community such as those that want it to go in an adventure route or Assault route or the real time strategy of 2 and command. Because of this the fan base can never agree or universally like a new star fox game.
Star Fox zero didn't just fail because it was on the wii u but because it basically said F you to the people who were invested by the storyline by going back to square one. It was also an F you to the people who liked those who wanted the series to evolve from a gameplay front by going back to 64 style in 2016. But it was also a middle finger to the people who wanted classic starfox by throwing in a gimmick that has a massive learning curve that you can't turn off and mostly no one asked for.
So the real problem is finding a way to make a new starfox game that can please mostly everyone. Knowing how things have been going however sadly not.
To be fair the forced romance in adventure didnt do much for the series. If anything with assult. It really pushed the Fox x Wolf an Nintendo didnt help much when the story beats and sleight changes really felt like Fox x Wolf would happen. Considering Nintendo teased Fox x Wolf so hard its a actual congratulations screen in super smash bros ultimate.
If Miyamoto got of his high horse and let the devs do there thing and stopped forcing gimmicks. The series would be better off without them. Starfox assult feels like Starfox meets Halo an I honestly like that. The mis of air and land combat is fast paced where its a best of both worlds. An Im sorry but purest Starfox fans need to let go of all starfox games need to be a on rails flight sim. Its because, of those types of fans the series has only did starfox 1 remakes / retellings to play it safe ,
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Also Starfox was in starlink an starlink sold moddestly on switch because of the starfox brand. Starlink plays like starfox but with a higher budget. An if people like me can play starfox 0 on a single screen laptop. With just a gyro conroller with Cemu . Nintendo has no valid reason not to port starfox 0. When, they port every wiiu Mario game under the sun to the switch. An for the last 5 years the switch origionals has been nothing but ports and remakes. So if Nintendo continues down the train of ignoring fans. The only way to play starfox sadly is through piracy and Nintendo is braindead when it comes to legacy content -.-
20:48 Not true at all.
Star Fox Zero badly needs to be ported to the Switch. I love Star Fox. Played it since day one in 1993. Nintendo is neglecting it badly. This is a gold star franchise and Nintendo is letting is wither away. I guess Nintendo doesn't like money.
Star Fox zero failed because of the ckntreols , they were absolutely horrendous and probably killed the franchise. I love star fox, I love adventures and assault but zero was absolutely awful.
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@@dompne33 I recommend Rocket Knight Adventures: Re-sparked!, and Bot Vice there like Star Fox Assault in 2d.
I could be completely wrong, but I feel like star fox disappeared because it is a real shooter and you can’t get that many new ideas going in a real shooter. After all, the score, all you do is fly around and blast stuff in StarFox. How many new elements can you possibly add to make a new game? so after the first and start, Fox 64, there wasn’t really anywhere to go.