Behringer UMC-404HD | Audio Routing Explained
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- An explanation of the routing inside of the UMC-404HD audio interface by behringer.
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So much time spent looking for such a simple f@#$ing question, and here I have found the answer. Thanks man.
Glad it helped. One of my main questions about this interface before I bought it. Which is why I wanted to post a video explaining it.
Thank you so much!
I'm using my UMC-404HD with Jamulus software to rehearse live with our 4-piece band , and I've been trying for weeks to figure out how to monitor the USB coming from Jamulus rather than my local sound. (Monitoring the USB stream coming back from Jamulus rather than your local audio helps overcome some of the latency and allows you to better stay in sync with the rest of the group.) Your explanation of the Main vs Playback output, and the Monitor function as it relates to what's heard in the headphones, is perfect!
And may I say that the Behringer manual for the 404 does not remotely provide a clear explanation of how the Main and Playback outputs function, nor how the Monitor knob affects what you're listening to with regards to the local vs USB audio in your earphones. It's actually not that complicated, but their manual just doesn't give you enough detail to understand it!
Well done!
Thanks a bunch- I have this interface for a while now and have seen quite some video's/reviews on the UMC404HD, but you might be the first person to explain the routing in a straightforward and clear way! You've earned this subscribe, man.
Thanks. Glad I could help and thanks for the sub.
hi i want to connect my yamaha psr or700 to the behringer to record music. to which port I need to connect front or back? and which port from the keyboard? Please advise.
@@germanyproductreviews4136 Connect them to the front inputs. On the keyboard there should be a set of stereo main outputs. I would use them and connect to the 1/2 or 3/4 of the interface.
You cleared the main thing holding me back from buying this mixer which was the A/B monitoring for USB. Thanks man, its the only explanation online
Thanks for taking the time to make this video to answer my question :) Really good explanation that I am sure will be useful to many people.
You are very welcome. This is one video that I could not find myself when researching this interface. Hopefully it will help others in their journey.
I'm new to this and I just got my 404HD playing audio from the mic AND PC thanks to your explanation. Much appreciated! I couldn't figure out what I was doing wrong.
5 years later, still a super useful video. I’ve just started using Amplitube 5 and Tonex but realized all of the tones were nearly identical, or had a hint of clean/unprocessed bass. Your video helped me realize thst my settings were wrong for listening to only processed/modeled output. Thanks!
Thank you for this tutorial! It was confusing at first using Ableton Live but I was able to route the metronome and monitor,(audio in my right ear and click in my left ear) through output 1 for headphone jack A, and then stereo out to my camera interface or PA system (depending if im playing a live show in person or streaming) through 3/4 B playback. That way I can have tracks panned for sound quality to the camera and if I want to hear it as stereo in my headphones say after I've established my beat I can just press the B monitor for headphones button and the metronome is gone and I can hear stereo audio to monitor. Lovely!! Just what I wanted! And to eleborate for any Ableton users just make sure your audio settings in preferences is arranged correctly. In my case with the 404HD I need all ins and outs mono and stereo to be on. And so to add to this I can also plug my single PA speaker to output 2 main or playback and have sound simultaneously in conjunction to what I mentioned above. So basiaclly I can record stereo to video while projecting to a small crowd while i perform live and still have the ability to monitor with a click that no one can hear except me. PERFECTO!!!!
glad my video helped.
Thanks, with your help I managed to get my guitar on my headset while recording, thank you so much !
Couldn't figure out how to do the pass-through from usb AND playback back to headphones. This helped me figure it out. Thumbs up!
Good job man! This is the ONLY clear vid on what the mix knob does! Well done!
That was one of my own questions before I bought the interface so I wanted to make sure I did a video explaining it as best as I could so others who might have had the same question got the answer.
Thank you for this video. I was just about to buy a 4 channel mixer in order to mix Amp Sim Out & Lexicon Out. The Mix knob between Direct Ins & Playback worked like a charm. Also, using Main Out instead of Playback Out lets me drive my cabinet for home/gig situations.
Thanks for this. I didn't need all the info, just enough to get me to be able to sample out of the UMC404 and into my Circuit Rhythm. You put me on the right track.
This video helps alot. I use Mixcraft 8 and I want to make the most use out of this I already have it but only have a rudimentary understanding of how it works this is explaining alot more it's very useful thank you
Thank you! No one has explained this as well as you
Thanks for the explanation, helping me make an important decision
Behinger legit sent me the link to this video. Bless your kind soul
I am glad it helped. I guess I need to contact them about a partnership. hehe
@@TheAudioDabbler Do you know how to route output in Garageband? Doesn't seems to work there. Pretty poor they don't have a full manual for ALL functions. They do sell it cheap and for the price it's a great card but why pack it with so many options without telling how to use them? Great work! Thanks!
Tommy Larsson uhh i suppose you open the settings of garageband, and select under audio the output to umc404hd. I use logic so i suppose it is quite similar.
@@ernstzjw6971 Yes thats the basic settings and Garageband can't route to more than Left - Right output as Logic probably can. As I was mainly looking for an extra output for another mix reference speaker I wanted to use the playback output B for that. As I couldnt route the signal in Garageband I thought It wouldn't work. Although, playback output A send the same signal as the main out so if I want to only listen to an extra reference speaker I can just turn the main volume down on Behringer and control the volume on my extra speaker on my Daw. Thats a workaround in Garageband. Can't have it all in a free program.
@@tommylarsson2025 Is there any setting that you can choose outputs 3-4?
Most awesome technical review ever on the internet ! thank you
I just purchased the UMC1820 version and waiting on shipping, but this vid really explains the signal path. I'm hoping I can get my analog gear running through studio one with this.
You should be able to. I really like mine so far. Plenty of routing options. Thanks for checking out my video. Let me know how everything works out for you.
@@TheAudioDabbler workin out great, very solid i/o for the money! Thanks
You just saved my evening. Thanks for sharing!
Glad I could help!
Great video! I couldn't understand why I couldn't listen to the instruments connected to the input in real time. Thank you!
This was extremely helpful! Thanks man!
amazin vid bro been looking for this!
Great vid bro, just what the people needed.
Good explanation - thx. One other thing I’d like to do, is have the usb from iPad appear at the *inputs* so I could use the inserts to route to effects like hardware reverb. I guess I could cable that, being careful to avoid feedback ...but wondering, on a long shot, if there’s a software routing way to accomplish the same.
thaaaaank you. gotta make sure before i buy. wish they provided more info about this
Well explained. All clear. That were my findings too.
thank you for this - such a good explanation
Thank you so much for this video!
Very good and very helpful!
Excellent, bravo, you saved my day.......BIG BIG thanks.
hey mate, im looking to use this device as a backing track set up for my band. are you able to route outputs to 1, 2, 3, and 4 individually of each and they be controlled separately of each other at a mixing desk? ie, tracks 1 would play a sample, track 2 would play a bass sample, track three would be something else and so on?
Same question here. I hope that the main outs and the playback outputs can add up to 8 individual outputs? (4 playback outputs, 2 xlr main outs, 2 TRS main out)
You sir are an absolute legend, I really need to start learning my equipment before I end up banging my head against a wall trying to find a video like this. Excellent work 👍
Thank you so much for this video.
Very helpful, thanks!
I had a 2017 iPad Pro 10.5" and no sound from the UMC404....this quirk had me confused for a while as I know my way around audio interfaces (I have 5 of them, all working no problem)....Please read on if this is relevant: Remember to turn up the volume controls on the iPad itself. For some reason the digital audio signal is routed via the volume management on the iPad before it gets sent out via the USB back to the interface. I don't know if this applies to other interface brands or not but it is critical to achieving a good output signal.
Really helpful video thanks a lot
Thanks a lot
That was very useful
Excellent!! Thank you!
big help mate, cheers!
very well done thank you
SUUUPER helpful explanation. But I'm using this for doing a drum lesson through zoom.. And I was wondering if my MIC plugged into Ch1 and my Electronic Kit stereo out plugged into Ins 3-4 could be heard together.. IN a stereo field.. when I have ZOOM MICROPHONE set to U-PHORIA "IN" 1-2.
very helpfull! THANKS!
Thanks for this explanation.
One questions: I would like to use the "stereo/mono" button to control the audio coming from my PC, so i have a mono switch available to me at all time. Currently i have the following settings on my UMC 204HD (nearly identical to the 404):
Audio cables running from playback 1-2 to inputs 1 & 2
The output selected in windows is OUT 1-2
Mix knob turned to Input
Monitor A/B selected to A.
Connected to pc via USB
This seems to work, and doesnt seem to create any kind of loop. When selecting mono, the sound is fully mono. I have my monitors connected to the Main Out L & R, and headphones to the headphone jack.
But there is a weird anomaly:
The Inputs 1 & 2 start to clip already at about 10-15% input gain when turning Gain 1 & Gain 2 knobs. Even with the Pad button pressed (which "reduces input level for connected sources when engaged."), I am hearing the sound at pretty decent volumes when the knobs are at 0%. If i have the volume in windows turned to 100, the 204HD has clipping light flashing already at 0% input gain.
Any idea why this could be?
Good information thx...hey how would you record audio / MIDI from your iPad into your DAW
Depends. Recording into a DAW from your iPad, can be simple, if you have a Mac or something like an iConnectAudio4+ interface. It would really depend on what current gear you have. Let me know and I can advise. I have been meaning to do a video on this topic.
I bought a Topping DX3 PRO, an Headphone amplifer, how can I connct it to the UMC 404 HD? Should I go from the output of the amplifier to playback outputs of the audio interface? With rca stereo?
I've got a question also regarding the routing of the UMC-404HD. I'm thinking of buying this interface if it's possible besides using 2 channels by themselves for Mic In and Bass Guitar In and use the remaining 2 channels for connecting (or sort of inserting) an external Mixer using the 2 In channels and any (which?) of the 2 Out channels of the Interface to be able to connect more things via the Mixer. So my question would be: is my plan achievable with the UMC-404HD and how? Any help is highly appreciated - thanks!
Thanks for this. You'd think that Behringer would have explained some of this in their manual, but from what I can see all you get is nothing more than a quick start guide :-(
I have my pedal board/chain plugged into the first input, and I have rca cables going to my studio monitor speakers. How can I listen to the live noise through my speakers? Really confused..
I have 2 keyboards (both in stereo) and I'm running Mainstage. So, I
should run the USB from the UMC404HD to my hub (along with the USBs from
both keyboards, and the USB to my MacBook Pro). Assuming I tell
Mainstage (or Logic) where I want the output to go, it should work,
right? For example.... Keyboard 1 is assigned in my DAW to channels
(1) left and (2) right. Keyboard 2 is assigned in my DAW to channels 3
(Left) and 4 (Right), respectively. On the back of the UMC404HD, I run
(1/L) and (2/R) outputs to the left and right inputs for my mixer (for
Keyboard 1). Then, I run (3/L) and (4/R) to the left and right inputs
for my mixer (for Keyboard 2). Result, I get a stereo mix from my
mixer, right?
So I want to run a headphone amp with a trs input. Could I run a trs-trs cable out of playback output 1 into the headphone amp, or do I need to run an rca l/r to trs y cable?
Quick question, which app did you use on the iPad and which adapter to you use? Thanks in advance
Hi i recently baught the interface works perfectly but my question is regarding the UMC control panel. On the "output tab". You get an option to adjust volume for the master channel which i assume will be for the main outs and than you get a tab for outputs 1 & 2 and 3&4 which i will assume is for the playback outputs .my problems is if i adjust the playback output 1&2 volume on the control panel .it also lowers the volume on the master output(mains out)
Is this the way it should be or they is something i can do to fix this?
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@TheAudioDabbler i have two questions 1.if i put the knob all the way to playback i obtain a very disturbing background noise, something like a rustle... i can't find a way to remove it.
2, if i use the audio interface on windows i obtain a very low output volume, no way to enhance it
I have never used playback inputs. Only reason I use the back part of the interface is for my Monitors. I wonder what you are referring to when you say playbacks.
Rocken Byanjankar so playback is only going to play what the computer is outputting, it will not monitor the physical inputs Like the main outputs will. I think it’s more of a DJ type thing but there are other uses for them.
less than NO idea what you're talking about.
i'll come back when im smarter.
Steve, I understand. First time I watched this video, I didn't get it either. But... A simple answer on splitting the signal when playing live with your band: Send audio that you don't want the crowd to hear to 3/4. Press the "Monitor A/B" button down and now the sound that you don't want the crowd to hear is only coming through your headphones in the front of the Behringer UMC404HD (or 3/4 output in the back of the Behringer UMC404HD).
Less than zero? Make that negative infinity.
he did not say anything relevant anyway.
Lmfao I did not understand squat either
@@RSLosed The presenter here is not all that clear, this interface is really not all that complicated. this lengthy explanation makes it seem a lot more complicated.
How can I configure and extend my interface to get more outputs for a surround configuration using adat on Mac and logic
can i get a signal out my dj software directly to the MAIN OUT without getting audio from the 4 Inputs on it?
I have this thing and i'm finding it difficult to use it in Ableton and Stream using OBS -- any help?
My question is I Have 2 sets os speakers, can I send what im playing on my guitar to one set, and the playback song on my computer to another set ? And also when I'm using my headphones can I listen to both the playback on my computer and my guitar ?
Hey, thanks for yout video. I would want to know how could I send a metronome to the phones, while all the playback goes to the main out? Thanks a lot!
Kind of what I'm looking for myself! Still sort of confused after watching this video to be honest.
video is really helpful! thanks!! ... just bought it today and first thought was that with this soundcard i can select between two sound systems (first one near computer and second one around the room) ...But PC sees 1-2 and 3-4 outputs... So i cant hear pc sounds from 1-2 or 3-4 in one moment... I need to choose output in control panel and for example if it will be 1-2 from 3-4 i can hear only sounds from guitar rig or something, but no pc sounds at all... and there is nothing i can do about it..((
Hi, which channel should I use only with headphones connected? A 1-2 or B 3-4? I can hear with both, but does anything change?
Both XLR and ¼ jack main outs can be used and the same time?
Thanks a lot!
Can i connect normal speakers on mains out using xlr to rca inputs to my normal subwoofer speakers
I have monitors out playback 1&2. and connected to my PC. It works for most of apps except NUX amp. I can only get sound if I connect the monitors to Main outs. Any way to make it work with playback ports?
I have my headphones connected to A 1/2 but i cant control the volume on it, its a bit too loud by a little so im trying to lower it and ive used every nob and nothing. I need help
Okay,
If I had 2 PCs and Bookshelf Speakers hooked up to this, I route the PCs on 1/2 channels, I will be able to use my headphones to hear from both PCs and channel A?
And if I have the bookshelf speakers to the 3rd channel, I would just flip to the B channel to listen to bookshelf speakers?
This theoretical works, right?
I've had the UMC404HD for some time now and can't seem to set two channels to stereo (ex:3-4). Is the ipad software the only way to do that?
What software on the ipad communicates with the interface? and does it work for the UMC204 as well?
Thank you for this clarifitaion!
One more question. If I would like to connect a headphone (through a cable adapter) to the playback outs, would it be able to drive a headphone?
That may work but I never tested it. I know that line level like the play back outputs have a different impedance than the headphone outs. Plus you have no control over the PB volume except through the software. If you are trying to hookup multiple headphones then a small 4 channel headphone amp might be a better option. It would also work if you are wanting to monitor out the playback.
Hi, great explanation! Thnx for that!
It has come to my understanding that if I'll try to route the different playback outs as different mono outs pb 1+2 will be the same as the main outs? Meaning I can only have the main outs+2 extra mono outs or am I wrong?
Correct.
I recently purchased this interface, but I'm having a dickens of time trying to locate the user manual. The unit came with a "starter guide", but my audio engineer needs more specs. Anyone got an idea where it can be downloaded?
Thanks for review! Tell please app name. If app will be closed routing will works well? routing setup saved in card memory or not?
When using a Drynamic Mic for micing an acoustic guitar, are you using it with Line or Instrument level (buton engaged)? And also, the PAD?
You should be using the balanced mic input, as in using an XLR connection. Connecting the mic via either instrument or line input will very likely have a lot more noise and weaker signal. The button/switch should have no effect on the XLR input.
I’m trying to figure how to isolate headphones from the monitors. I’m lost. I want to only hear out of the headphones when I’m recording vocals.
Can i connect directly from the umc to the speakers for the stage purpose, if so please advise how to do it
you sir have won the internets....
I have a 204hd and I've managed to use it as a home theater setup, 1&2 rca output for one amp and 3&4 for a second amp, playing 5.1 movies separately to each of my 4 speakers (center was mixed). only it lasted a very short while and now it doesn't work anymore. anyone can shed some light? how do i get this back?
How do you use multiple mics with this interface in GarageBand in MacBook
I thought you use iconnectaudio4+. Do you like this one more? Or do you use both? What is mains? In the UK they use mains for the wall power.
I still use both. I wanted a 2nd interface that was bus powered and more portable to use when I am on the go. As far as mains, I am referring to the main outputs as opposed to any alternate output like a sub mix or in the Behringer's case, the 4 playback outs.
I'm using the umc404 for zoom and wyzant but there is no input level detected on inputs 3 and 4 of the interface. Pressing the stereo and a/b button doesn't fix it.
I have this interface. I want to record and playback quad music from my 4 channel analog reproducer, (tape deck or record player, etc.) How do I route the four separate channels to a DAW in windows 10 and then back out again to reproduce the digital music.
Thanks (Frustrated in Texas).
i have a "problem" with mine... when I turn up to the maximum the phones knob, the metronome gets into the input 1 and 2 and it records there. I don't know why if it is supposed the inputs of my interface aren't outputs. I'm so confused. someone can helpme, please???
hey ! tnx 4 the vid. I have this unit and was wondering - can I use the out puts on the back (xlr and PL) for two different pares of speakers? how can I switch between the two ?
I do believe you can send to multiple outputs but you cannot control it via the unit. It would need to be controlled some other way, maybe an external A/B switch?
cool. i need all 4 outputs working at the same time. 3 and 4 will play logic pro to broadcast. 1 and 2 will be in the house.
Thanks, man. An even very comprehensive guide to audio routing for the UMC404 - which I happen to own - where there was none to begin with.
Still I am stuck in a hole... After years I buried my Audiobox thingy that I used for it's "sufficiency" for years. Although it introduces weird behaviours in the sub bass and bass frequencies that I never was able to fathom, just to suppress. Thought it'd be a groundng issue but that's at least not a general problem. And although the Behringers Preamps are so much better. I mainly do overvoicings with a mono mic plugged in on the XLR on whatever IN. Some people seem to happen to have been able to set up circumstances, under which they get their mic sound in a direct monitor to BOTH channels, speaking of a stereo monitor of a mono input.
Should it be my lucky day and anyone knows how to reproduce that? Btw I am recording in Wavelab if possible and in Cubase if nothing else helps project wise. Also audacity would be an option but I never really worked with it. I am just not able to do high class overvoicings with my monitor only on one side :D
But any help for the situation in Wavelab would be sufficient, surely. It's my preferred workflow.
And I know very well that I shouldn't call you surely.
That’s for the reply !! I understand kinda what you are saying . I would think that there is a way to overdub a easier way . It seems to me the only way to track with this setup is in real time . For instance , If i lay down my drum track and they decide they want a shaker track or some
Sort of percussion , how would I listen to the drum tracks I just laid down and then lay down a percussion track ? I can’t seem to do that which cannot be correct . With the UMC404HD I have to turn the mix knob to the right to here playback and then I have drums lagging in the mix . I am hoping I am missing something ...
what is your audio buffer set at? what DAW? When you have the mix knob to in, it is direct monitoring, and when its PB, its monitoring the playback. I don't think its the interface, it seems like there is latency in the DAW. So one option, depending on the DAW you are using, would be to turn the mix knob all the way to PB, and use the DAW to monitor the armed track you want to add a shaker on. If that make sense.
Hi, any idea how to make playback routing work for Auria pro
nice vid thanx. this confusion might be of interest or at the very least provoke some laughter. connected main L/R out of a zoom playback device to the main L/R jack outs of the UMC-404HD by accident (TS jacks). its routed via a patch bay in a half-normal configuration. i can hear the playback from my zoom in my monitors. neither level knob/mix knob change playback volume, nor can i change playback level via computer. to clarify i have the umc connected to amp/monitors via the xlr outs. why can i hear the zoom playback? is the signal somehow getting to a mixer stage perhaps because of using theTS rather than TRS jack, or am i going macadamian?
This was VERY helpful in understanding that most outputs are coming from the USB. How do I send audio to the USB? I'm using a UMC 1820 (the same just bigger) plugged into a PC running Traction Waveform 11 as my DAW/recording software. I tried using that and also Voicemeeter Banana to send audio back and thus be able to plug in speakers to my interface, but I still only get audio out on the 1-2 output, and none of the others. Supposadly this interface has several outputs, but I can only use one.
You have to route the audio via your software to get outputs from the other outputs. You cannot do it with just the interface.
@TheAudioDabbler I want to use either this 404 or the 204 at church.
I would only use it for playing backing tracks from my laptop.
If these PB outputs are simultaneous, I would like to use:
PB 1 & 2 for stereo sounds (pads, effects... )
PB 3 for mono tracks & 4 for click track.
Is this possible with this interface?
I would appreciate your response a lot since I can't find this in the manual.
It should work. They can be stereo pairs or you can split them mono. Just to note, you will need to control the volume using software as there is not any volume knobs for the playback outputs.
8:49 - You mention that you can route inputs to A & B (1-2 and 3-4). This is exactly what I need to do, send my XLR microphone input to B (3-4).
I have this plugged into my PC and can't seem to find any application from Behringer to control or configure that. Do you have any suggestions?
I just picked up Ableton Live 10 Lite hoping that would work but haven't figured it out yet.
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Thank you so much, I burned a whole day trying to figure out the pb and main outs, so out simply, pb ONLY outputs digital audio, main outputs both audio ins and digital.
Glad I could help
thanks!
Hello, sir! I'm using the Uphoria 404 for doing a podcast with up to three participants, but so far am only monitoring them myself via phones at the front. If i wanted to allow the others to monitor themselves with headphones so they gain better mic technique (ie not constantly pulling away from the mic randomly) and also so i can hear them thru the front phones and they can hear themselves and each other, what would be the ideal config? Thanks!
Are they virtual or physically in the room with you? If they are physically in the room then getting a headphone amp with multiple outputs would allow each of the guests, including you, to monitor.
@@TheAudioDabbler they are in the same room. i do have a small headphone amp with multiple outputs but only used it in a live band sense with a stereo send to one person, will give it a go, thanks!
I'm new to this and I have a situation with my interface. When I press the monitor button on A, nothing can be heard, but when I put it on B, only the left side can be heard. What can I do to make the A button be heard?
we play and sing on zoom in meetings, the mic sounds great but the guitar is awful! I guess it's my lack of knowledge but how am I getting it wrong? Taylor 150 12 sting. Thanks for any help.
Just getting started helping my church. They have this box and were going to go out to the DSLR like your other video. Which was great! If they have a mixer for remote mics. How do I get that into this unit. Is it only XLR?
As far as inputs, the inputs are combo jacks, meaning they will take XLR or 1/4 inch cables. You could go out of the mixer into one of the input jacks depending on how many you are already using.