One of the weapons said light vehicle damage and a picture of a light tank, so I ran to a light tank hit it with my Melee. it did nothing and I got shot
i like the take down mechanic, i do agreee that it doesnt require much skill but i think it adds to the brutality that actually was in ww1 and i think it just helps make the game look better
agree. If youre that close to someone he is done for anyway. In reallife you cant aim your almost 1m long weapon when someone is literally a few centimeters away from you
Maddix Roberts You can hear the brutal crunch of their skull when you hit them in the head with clubs. Trench mace has a gory wet sound when your animation hits them in the face.
Yea he literally said the knife system they had though. Past tense. But I wouldn't even know. I haven't played advance warfare. The last one I played a little bit of was Black ops 2. But the ones before that I put a good bit of time in. Like mw2 and 3. But 3 wasn't all that great. But I've been on battlefield since bad company 2.
It's World War I. I think they wanted to replicate the brutality of close range combat. And of course it should take less skill to take someone down with a knife than it should with a gun at close range. That's what knives are for. I think this mechanic is great.
Jeremias Astorga And clearly soldiers in WW1 did not miss swings when they switched to the melee.That's why dice decided to give us Auto Takedown when we're in that particular range.It's not like.. Spy from TF2 or counter strike mechanics.It might be my theory,but i think that you can dodge the Takedown when you jump.The same thing works with Bayonet.But i think the swing will kill you anyway.So you better die in the takedown.That way you'll give your teammates a time to revenge for you.Or even save from dying.it's possible.But hard to time.Your teammate might die because of the Takedown's half animation,but you'll be able to revive him.I saw those kind of situations many times.
I actually kinda like the system. While I will concede that being able to axe someone's face off from the front is a bit much, and some tweaking is definitely in order, it feels incredible to storm into a room, take three people out with your primary/secondary, then bury a hatchet in the last guy's neck.
Levelcap be like: 'I don't like how you can 1 hit melee people when they have taken damage, but im going to show you the best way you can do it! So soon everyone can do it!'
Little known fact: In Bf5 if you chose the Medic class and melee he will have different animations going for important arteries such as the jugular, wrist, and throat. This is really interesting hinting that the Medic has had training on the Human Anatomy (Which WW2 Medics didn't commonly get).
***** Ive been getting 3kd+ every game for the past 2 weeks only using shotguns. they can get kills from 20metres away.. and people think they are bad in destiny and cod..
+ToastIzGud not the pick as it only does damage to wood (not counting light armor damage as it's useless) and the shovel does nothing but the hatchet is the best
Edwin Vasquez that annoyed the hell out of me. I would be on a good kill streak than I would have to melee someone but it just ended up with a counter knife.
lol, why he whining about the takedown that activates when someone doesnt have enough hp to survive it? If anything it is more of a negative to the one doing the takedown, because he have to go through the whole animation instead of a fast slash for the same amount of dmg...
That, and the fact that it's not super accurate (referring to when he killed the prone guy instead of the standing guy). In that situation, it probably woulda been best to just use a gun and try and go for both kills and melee the last guy if he lives, but it does show how melee kills can be a little wonky.
Exactly, I was thinking the exact same thing. It does 55 damage per hit, they're going to die regardless of if it does the animation or not. The animation actually makes you vulnerable
Not really, if there is no takedown animation you can miss the final swing, if there is an animation you always 100% of the time kill people on low health even if your aim sucks.
I don't honestly think people are missing withing melee range very often are they? From 0 feet away basically they're going to miss? I don't think it would do the animation unless it would have also done the melee damage.
Ciaran Thayer I like that all the Italian character models wear capes. I think that it's cool that the Ottomans have nice uniforms. Germans are the best. 'Nuff said. US and British are badass in their own right.
Ciaran Thayer The fact that he's bald though, and has no neck protection weirds me out, it kinda looks like something a person made in blender by grabbing a mannequin head preset and putting a blob on his forehead. But hey, it must be accurate.
Ciaran Thayer I love how pissed the US and British Scout looks. It's this black dude with a sweet, subtle pose but his face just says "I'm done with this war bullshit"
Im glad the takedowns are in the game. You think just flailing around the knife and clipping a guy in the foot to kill him takes more skill and is better than a takedown? Lol.
Id rather have a takedown than some awkward swipe that kills people and looks like something from cod4. Also a grapple system like you described would NEVER work. You gotta remember this is still battlefield and youd be shot in the middle of this grappling match 99/100 times
Go dig a hole outside, then come back and tell us how fast, practical and fun that is. Actually digging fox holes or trenches takes ages and isn't something you could do fast enough for it to be practical in the middle of combat.
What? Yet it's possible for a soldier to break a load of barbed wire with a single swing of a hatchet, or break down a door? Battlefield 1 isn't at all realistic. Letting the shovel dig holes would be pretty cool, it would give a reason to take the shovel over the other heavy melee weapons.
Andrei Zedlav yes lets all listen to Andrei because with all this totally backed up info he must be a ww1 veteran so you guys should always respect him because his word is always right
well.That's how World War 1 was.You don't kill someone that is beating the shit out of you in the close quarters.Melee warfare was very important in World War 1.
Daniel Antony In WW1 you didn't stop frantically shooting/trying to maim your enemy in close quarters so they could perform their fancy killing maneuvers on you either. But in BF1 it's a staple of close-quarters combat because Lolz Dice just gots ta get them super cool animations ins on the Battlefield for all teh nuubs.
I like melee in BF1. When two guys run into each other and desperately try to shank one another, it just really reinforces the desperation and brutality of the situation.
Retrofly Glad to know I'm not the only one who does this. Whenever I play war pigeon I always make sure to use a revolver or a bolt action in close quarters to go for those takedowns
And, for future reference, this is basically what LevelCap dislikes about the current melee system: As it stands, you can usually guaranteed win any close range 1v1 just by hitting one shot with a high-damage weapon, and pressing the melee key. It would be a bit less silly if you at least had to aim the melee strike, even if it is in "kill range".
I wish Dice would add a 'saber' class, it would be for the Sabertooth knife and the Calvary sword and would have different stats and animations. I feel like theirs so much potential there.
like you're just sitting in a light tank paying attention to something else and you hear a muffled battle cry and a moment later a clank as a bayonet makes contact with the light tank.
Awesome vid! Now I know why my swings don't always activate a takedown - I was convinced it was a always triggered based on your distance from your target. Btw, The Cavalry Sword is also part of the "Hatchet Category". Also bayonet falls into the blade category and does 100 damage, instant killing.
But you cant change melee weapon with the Cavalry class. You're stuck with the sword and no other class can use it. so why the fuck would he mention it?
Well thats a fail on the kill zone description. Kill zone is the angle at which the game allows a 1 hit kill from behind. So a heavy weapon will have to be almost completely behind to 1 hit kill an opponent but the 2 hit kills from the front mean you should be winning a melee on melee fight. On a lot of the melee attacks in the video a regular small knife would have gotten a 1 hit kill from behind. So in terms of melee alone a knife would be better for someone like me who only melee attacks very rarely and when its a near guaranteed kill whereas a heavy weapon would be better for duels. A medium weapon might be better for someone to rampage depending on the game, 2 hits to kill anyone below 90% isn't much of a downside if everyone has taken damage and the extra speed and kill zone is pretty useful. However melee weapons also have a some utility so personally I'm split between the hatchet for wood and barbed wire or just a knife and forget melee exists as usual.
damn! you're super good looking plus you can come up with this logical of an analysis of aspects of a multiplayer fps. The world needs more females like you.
I honestly have no idea what your problem with the takedown animation is. If an enemy has 50 health and you shoot him with a weapon that does more than 50 dmg he is dead. If there was no takedown amination and you would just swing the melee weapon for 55 dmg he'd be dead but entering an animation that has no effect other than slowing you down is OP somehow??? Explain it to me pls...
FritzZeGerman In the video, he showed hm killing a guy who wasn't even on his screen. The lock on is over 180%+ and it locks the other guy in an animation, making it impossible to counter or give a chance to fight back.
Odezy Beckhummice janior Ok didn't know that locking on was easier than just hitting normally so it actually is quite powerfull. Thank you for the information. :)
3:17 Uh, I dont think so. You really want DICE to make, what, 15 weapons have unique stats and shit? This isnt an RPG, I dont need my trench knife to do +15 fire damage to tanker classes or something.
4:15 so, basically, if a weapon does enough damage to kill someone, and you hit them, you don't think it should kill them? Instead you think they should be able to fight back after their death?
The take down animation actually makes it harder to go only melee than if you just hit them and they die, with the take down animation it leaves you vulnerable for several seconds
Wouldn't that be strange if they developed some sort of bullet takedown mechanic if your shot is somewhat lined up and your bullet would do enough damage to kill them lol.
Seizmos yeah but they reduced the area in which one hit kills are in. A lot of times on the guys right or left and no takedown will commence even if i am just a tiny bit in their 180 degree front side
I think its pretty accurate with the take downs, in World War I, most militaries had an insane idea of the range that most soldiers would fight at. I've seen pistol caliber carbines with sights that go out to 400 meters and think that most rifles on the battlefield were generally more than half as tall as the shooter. This meant that in the heat of battle, when an enemy was in your trench or behind your line; a knife, shovel, and table leg with hob nails was more valuable than your giant weapon.
Rich Homie Quan Chi I'd prefer stupid puns... "Can I 'axe' you a question?" "'Axe-assination!'" "'Knife' to meet you." "Can you 'dig' it?" "Lets bury this "hatchet.'"
Don't get me wrong, i am loving this game. But you level up so slow and i personally feel like you don't get enough War Bonds per level. I don't like that you only get one item per battlepack now and the way you earn weapons kinda sucks but other than that...love it
+Creamy Canals The problem with that is the annoying disconnect problem thats been spreading for quite a lot of people. Currently, for no reason whatsoever, ill disconnect from the server. Making operations useless as the loads of time you spent playing wasted 3/4 of the way through when you lose your progress.
The biggest flaw of all mele weapons is that without requiring any skills they're, all of sudden, more powerful than guns in close-quarter combat. One the animation begins u can do nothing but see urself die.
That's how World War 1 was.You either join the fight and die with honor or deny it and die dishonored.The same thing is WIth Tanks being powerful and sniper being powerful.This IS World War 1 after all.If you don't like it,then don't play it.
I actually like the takedown from front action. means you stand a better chance against smgs when using rifles. also it leaves you vulnerable, whereas finishing someone with a gun means you're mor ready for next foe. fair tradeoff imo.
I'm surprised you didn't have a clip of shooting someone once and then hatchet. I really like that one revolver shot can be followed up instantly with a face hatchet when I'm caught off guard and have to panic defend.
If someone gets close enough to you to melee you down from 100 health, you deserve that brutal death. If you're fighting someone close up and end having low HP and they melee you first, sorry but they out played you. Everyone is complaining about this takedown animation, but did you all forget that most of the time you die right away from someone else while doing the animation? Awesome you melee killed someone, but you instantly died right after. Melee isn't a big deal at all. You people are complaining about nothing.
Krimlo Most of the time I hear people saying they can't react or stab them just because they were low health, but that's the point, that exact swing would have killed you anyways thus it grants the animation.
How are so many people missing the point? Didn't you listen to the video? The problem isn't the takedown the problem is the auto lock on that initiates it. Getting the takedown when you didn't even look at the guy is just plain dumb. I'd be fine with the animation if it would require me actually aiming at my enemy.
thanks for this, i was just spending my extra warbonds unlocking melee weapons last night, and i was wondering about the takedown mechanics. now i know!
Great, now know what all the kids are goind to be doing now, trying to run around in completely open areas with no cover trying to use their knifes....
ComputersAreRealCool I did knives only on COD back in the day. It's possible to get good at melee in shooters, you just have to know the map and be batman.
If anything when I get this game in my birthday and immediately play as medic and use the shovel. The hatchet's overrated and I just don't see the point of having weapons that can cut through barbed wire since you'll die doing it. For playing as medic I just think that I should ever since I played as a medic in tf2 and tfc and Mercy from Overwatch. I just find it relaxing to heal people.
Bajonett, now with extra length so you can shishkebap two guys at the same time;) Blow the whistle, charge, XP. The funny thing is that the kills which are not in the killzone, like swinging while sidestepping, and hitting the enemy midswing are faster and not triggering the animations, as far as i experienced.
James C I'd prefer to be left open instead of slapping a stick a cross a guy's back and killing him instantly. I love seeing my character split another man's collar bone with a pickaxe.
Vegetarianism and veganism is overall detrimental to animals as the animals we eat would never had been alive otherwise. To put it into terms of humans, it would be like saying people shouldn't be born if they are destined to die early (as in middle aged or earlier.) And p.s. I didn't need to know that you're a vegan
Trent F naw man, if you try running around with a knife on the ps4 you're going to get your ass handed to you. half of the people in this video dont even know this guy exists. next to that they cant aim for shit seeing as hes running right at them and they cant even kill him
Sjon Hompiestompie I promise you players on pc are much better, in my experience. I dominated bad company 2 and bf3 on console, pc is much more competitive. You're looking at a few minutes of video here, it's not indicative of the general experience on pc.
"This is a broken system. Instead of being even moderately honorable, I'm going to exploit the Shit out of this." This is why I've stopped watching these videos. He's a try hard to the point of ruining literally anyone else's fun.
the best way to make a company fix something is to exploit the hell out of it, especially with EA and dice. but since your brain can't get it, you can just go unsubscribe, nobody cares about you anyway.
I just really dislike the distinct lack of honor he has now. If the other team is losing by a lot, He'll say "Aw, we're rolling them." And nothing else. If I can I switch teams. It makes it a bit more balanced, and overall fun. That's honor. LC doesn't have that. No Fun Allowed, as long as his K/D is good. Christian Pineda If it's overly powerful, it probably wasn't meant to be like that. They will probably fix it eventually, but in the meantime, we have Tryhards abusing that. Also, Alessio Fantini, obviously, you cared enough to reply.
you cant impose an honor etiquette on a whole player base. but nothing in this video is even broken or exploitable. its just degrees of efficiency. all the melee weapons function very similarly with slight pros and slight cons. what is there to even be upset about
An Axe would be more accurate in close quarters than a firearm, imagine the space an Axe takes up during its swing in a arc and now imagine the space a bullet takes up in its path of direction, that way I feel the "lock on" animation is justified as you are right next to them after all
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One of the weapons said light vehicle damage and a picture of a light tank, so I ran to a light tank hit it with my Melee. it did nothing and I got shot
Lama Duckie This comment made my day
Imagine driver's face !
but what can it hit then?
Kuky damn
I don't think that sentry is a vehicle.Sentry is an Elite Class.And the game say that it damages light vehicles.
He leaves out the light armor damage can kill stationary artillery and such, which is useful for denying the enemy them on certain game modes.
FearOgre I did not know this, thanks for the info.
This should be top comment
Like taking down AA gun to defend your behemoth. Good point.
For real thanks bruh so useful
How long does it take for them to respawn? Is it significant?
i like the take down mechanic, i do agreee that it doesnt require much skill but i think it adds to the brutality that actually was in ww1 and i think it just helps make the game look better
James Lord if their was no animation people would just insta kill you and keep running without any stopping
Mathieu Price very good point
Honestly I'd rather see a cool takedown animation than kill someone with a janky precise swing
How about a cool takedown animation would only initiate if you landed a precise swing? It doesn't have to be black or white.
takedown animations.. cool? i found the assasins creed player
agree. If youre that close to someone he is done for anyway. In reallife you cant aim your almost 1m long weapon when someone is literally a few centimeters away from you
This is exactly why I use the spiked club, it's so brutal I don't even care if I have to give it the full 3 swings.
other then the damage it can do to other structures ive find zero difference between it and the club.
The melee takedowns are sooooo satisfying...
I think the club attacks are still the most brutal that;s why I still like the clubs over the other variants.
The one at 6:54 is my favorite tbh and I dont think it was an animation :P
Maddix Roberts You can hear the brutal crunch of their skull when you hit them in the head with clubs. Trench mace has a gory wet sound when your animation hits them in the face.
yall r fucked up lol
dank memes for sale Lol aye them canadiens are hot rn, bet you didn't know that
Still better than that 1 hit kill panic knife shit CoD had for years...
Yeah dude that pisses me off lol
Jarl Ballin' they literally changed the knife system in call of duty years ago, obviously you've never played the game
cod hasn't been playable since 2012
He is saying they had the 1 hit for years before it was changed in AW.
Yea he literally said the knife system they had though. Past tense. But I wouldn't even know. I haven't played advance warfare. The last one I played a little bit of was Black ops 2. But the ones before that I put a good bit of time in. Like mw2 and 3. But 3 wasn't all that great. But I've been on battlefield since bad company 2.
It's World War I. I think they wanted to replicate the brutality of close range combat. And of course it should take less skill to take someone down with a knife than it should with a gun at close range. That's what knives are for.
I think this mechanic is great.
well.Say it to the retards that don't know anything about WW1.And knives aren't the best for a melee.Knives are best for finishing.
I was using that figuratively, to refer to all melee weapons. But yeah, I think they got the WWI feel down to a T, or as close as you can get.
Jeremias Astorga Well.If it only was swings then you wouldn't even think about the brutal Melee Warfare of WW1.
Agreed
Jeremias Astorga And clearly soldiers in WW1 did not miss swings when they switched to the melee.That's why dice decided to give us Auto Takedown when we're in that particular range.It's not like.. Spy from TF2 or counter strike mechanics.It might be my theory,but i think that you can dodge the Takedown when you jump.The same thing works with Bayonet.But i think the swing will kill you anyway.So you better die in the takedown.That way you'll give your teammates a time to revenge for you.Or even save from dying.it's possible.But hard to time.Your teammate might die because of the Takedown's half animation,but you'll be able to revive him.I saw those kind of situations many times.
I actually kinda like the system. While I will concede that being able to axe someone's face off from the front is a bit much, and some tweaking is definitely in order, it feels incredible to storm into a room, take three people out with your primary/secondary, then bury a hatchet in the last guy's neck.
You're complaining about melee warfare? That's retarded.You clearly do not know what the fuck WW1 means.
Drader THE PROPHET OF AIDEN I wasn't there.I know about it more then you.Melee Warfare was the big part of WW1.
Drader THE PROPHET OF AIDEN I know notghing more then Melee Warfare? Why is that?
Daniel Antony It's a game. Pleb.
Mr. Eugene Krabs A game about World War 1,Pleb :P
Levelcap be like: 'I don't like how you can 1 hit melee people when they have taken damage, but im going to show you the best way you can do it! So soon everyone can do it!'
Jonne Koivisto Especially in case of Dice and EA :D
+Jonne Koivisto Cough rooftop camping in BF4 cough.
it's a bat with barbed wire.
Poor Glenn
Fkn Lucille
haha
"Lucille is thirsty. She is a vampire bat."
hulksmash865 was the joke that bad?
Little known fact: In Bf5 if you chose the Medic class and melee he will have different animations going for important arteries such as the jugular, wrist, and throat. This is really interesting hinting that the Medic has had training on the Human Anatomy (Which WW2 Medics didn't commonly get).
Can't wait for the Melee only servers.
CeeHam True
CeeHam Ooo...fog of war too. That'd be pretty fun
And bayonet
I wish
That’s medieval
7:49 The Shining
Gapeagle here's johnny
a mace wrapped with bacon .....
The Bacon Bludgeon...
HBXZ9xYOLO Baby back baton.
That would take down an ottoman soldier with one hit automaticly
a knife that is a burnt shard of bacon...
Bonus damage against Ottomans ;)
Well LCG Now you made all the kids running around with knifes the next 4 months
xBantex So what? Free kills
Kids with knives holy hell
Just use a fucking shotgun.. they are op as fuck
+Ahmad Naser The knives are going to be even more useless at those ranges anyway
***** Ive been getting 3kd+ every game for the past 2 weeks only using shotguns. they can get kills from 20metres away.. and people think they are bad in destiny and cod..
I wish when you hit someone with the club, half there face came off and the enemy said something like, "M-M-M-Maggie-M-M"
WazzawProgram and they turn Asian
nooooooooooo
Yeah and the weapon should be called lucy
Too soon bro, too soon
"...will....find.........you"
Don't care...once you've been killed by a shovel your ego never recovers.
Once you get hacked there's no coming back.
(close enough)
Punch Down King lawl you win
Michael Vaughan or a syringe
The syringe. There, I saved you eight and a half minutes.
ive tried multiple times and i have never ever ever hit anyone with that needle
i think u gotta hold it down and let the animation go through, just like the wrench/hammer item
+ThePregnantBaby They nerfed from the beta, probably.
first time i tried well it was a mistake was gonna revivie a temmate but got a kill LOL
Same here, went to revive a teammate and an enemy came charging and and right as I went to revive he got in range and killed him lol.
Axe, specifically the hatchet.
Saved you a video
Mike Hawk , Pick axes and shovels too
+ToastIzGud not the pick as it only does damage to wood (not counting light armor damage as it's useless) and the shovel does nothing but the hatchet is the best
M Bruce Yup.
2 stars on my hatchet! Being able to hack a window for a murder hole, break barbed wire and the animation is satisfying 👌🏻
You no what had no skill.
counter knife! I'm glad that's out of the equation.
Edwin Vasquez that annoyed the hell out of me. I would be on a good kill streak than I would have to melee someone but it just ended up with a counter knife.
Brian Silva im pretty sure if someone was coming at u with a knife u wouldn't stand and get stabbed like a fool.
well that 138 wasn't very smart if he knifed in the first place.
Alucard but you can counter knife them
Brian Silva cheeki breeki iv damke
lol, why he whining about the takedown that activates when someone doesnt have enough hp to survive it?
If anything it is more of a negative to the one doing the takedown, because he have to go through the whole animation instead of a fast slash for the same amount of dmg...
tabben82 It's not the takedown that's the problem it's the fact that you could be slashing 2m to the left and still get the kill
That, and the fact that it's not super accurate (referring to when he killed the prone guy instead of the standing guy). In that situation, it probably woulda been best to just use a gun and try and go for both kills and melee the last guy if he lives, but it does show how melee kills can be a little wonky.
Exactly, I was thinking the exact same thing. It does 55 damage per hit, they're going to die regardless of if it does the animation or not. The animation actually makes you vulnerable
Not really, if there is no takedown animation you can miss the final swing, if there is an animation you always 100% of the time kill people on low health even if your aim sucks.
I don't honestly think people are missing withing melee range very often are they? From 0 feet away basically they're going to miss? I don't think it would do the animation unless it would have also done the melee damage.
Who agrees the Germans assault character looks so cool
Ciaran Thayer
I like that all the Italian character models wear capes.
I think that it's cool that the Ottomans have nice uniforms.
Germans are the best. 'Nuff said.
US and British are badass in their own right.
Also the Austro-Hungarian!
PowerVoltaire Them too.
Ciaran Thayer The fact that he's bald though, and has no neck protection weirds me out, it kinda looks like something a person made in blender by grabbing a mannequin head preset and putting a blob on his forehead. But hey, it must be accurate.
Ciaran Thayer I love how pissed the US and British Scout looks. It's this black dude with a sweet, subtle pose but his face just says "I'm done with this war bullshit"
Im glad the takedowns are in the game. You think just flailing around the knife and clipping a guy in the foot to kill him takes more skill and is better than a takedown? Lol.
Slashing would ruin the emersion.The takedown mechanics are really showing what World War 1 was about.
Jakob With a K well the animations create a lock on effect which actually takes less skill
Tate Wick Yes, so? You can still miss.
Steven Cruz I've been turned 90 degrees from an enemy and I just locked onto them because of the animation
Id rather have a takedown than some awkward swipe that kills people and looks like something from cod4. Also a grapple system like you described would NEVER work. You gotta remember this is still battlefield and youd be shot in the middle of this grappling match 99/100 times
The German's attire is so sexy. The colour scheme and design. Can't say i like the others too much. :o
It's no coincidence that the attire and the flag have the same colours, actually.
Red Too bad for their history, but I'm in love with german uniforms. The offensive ones.
Not very practical though. I don't know how much those shiny brass buttons camouflage you. I think the British uniform is most practical
Hauptsturmführer Lauri Allan Törni Exactly. Just the grey, awesome helmet designs. Truly an army to fear with technology to match.
Hauptsturmführer Lauri Allan Törni 2nd one with the insignia.
U should be able to dig with the shovel
Go dig a hole outside, then come back and tell us how fast, practical and fun that is. Actually digging fox holes or trenches takes ages and isn't something you could do fast enough for it to be practical in the middle of combat.
What? Yet it's possible for a soldier to break a load of barbed wire with a single swing of a hatchet, or break down a door? Battlefield 1 isn't at all realistic.
Letting the shovel dig holes would be pretty cool, it would give a reason to take the shovel over the other heavy melee weapons.
Andrei Zedlav yes lets all listen to Andrei because with all this totally backed up info he must be a ww1 veteran so you guys should always respect him because his word is always right
FinnTheHuman pickaxe is rigth tool to dig holes and you dont get it free
...and mine blocks with the pickaxe!
if it does eniugh damage to kill them so it makes the animation why would you whine about it? he is going to die anyway wtf
Vincent Scheskat because it goes into the animation rather than the time it takes for another swing
well.That's how World War 1 was.You don't kill someone that is beating the shit out of you in the close quarters.Melee warfare was very important in World War 1.
Daniel Antony No English soldiers was running with german smgs, smgs/semi auto rifles were not issued out to standard infantry
Daniel Antony In WW1 you didn't stop frantically shooting/trying to maim your enemy in close quarters so they could perform their fancy killing maneuvers on you either. But in BF1 it's a staple of close-quarters combat because Lolz Dice just gots ta get them super cool animations ins on the Battlefield for all teh nuubs.
Soviet Russia I'm not talking about realism.I'm talking about the concept.
I am expecting a melee only server in Nov
gaaaay
maxpayne28 haha cp_degrootkeep
We might even see some syringe only servers.
ayyyyyy
Staun Shay syringes don't kill people like the defibrillators
I like melee in BF1. When two guys run into each other and desperately try to shank one another, it just really reinforces the desperation and brutality of the situation.
Hatchet, then you do the old revolver one-two. 1 shot, stab. Win.
Retrofly Glad to know I'm not the only one who does this. Whenever I play war pigeon I always make sure to use a revolver or a bolt action in close quarters to go for those takedowns
And, for future reference, this is basically what LevelCap dislikes about the current melee system: As it stands, you can usually guaranteed win any close range 1v1 just by hitting one shot with a high-damage weapon, and pressing the melee key.
It would be a bit less silly if you at least had to aim the melee strike, even if it is in "kill range".
"A hatchet...?" - Negan
I'm not crying again your crying!
fetch my axe
Lol hell yea.
He's referring to what Negan said in response to finding out what Rick's weapon was.
Lol at Mat exploding at the end
I wish Dice would add a 'saber' class, it would be for the Sabertooth knife and the Calvary sword and would have different stats and animations. I feel like theirs so much potential there.
Like did Dice really think people are gonna run up and melee a vehicle? Wtf
Well if it affect light tanks it would have been a nice addition!
what about sentrys? wouldnt knife able to damage light vehicle damage sentry?
you can just bayonet charge the sentry...
sometimes ur to close or ur bayonet charge goes around enemy
like you're just sitting in a light tank paying attention to something else and you hear a muffled battle cry and a moment later a clank as a bayonet makes contact with the light tank.
Awesome vid! Now I know why my swings don't always activate a takedown - I was convinced it was a always triggered based on your distance from your target.
Btw, The Cavalry Sword is also part of the "Hatchet Category".
Also bayonet falls into the blade category and does 100 damage, instant killing.
No mention of the Calvary sword? Sure it's an elite exclusive, but still a melee weapon
Patrick O'Sullivan Cool, cheers
The Horse is considered a vehicle which makes it not an elite.
Mr. DragonPig But the rider is an Elite class
*cavalry
But you cant change melee weapon with the Cavalry class. You're stuck with the sword and no other class can use it. so why the fuck would he mention it?
I can't wait for the Fog of War gamemode coming up, it's essentially pistol and melee only with nothing but fog
EdM240B any word when custom games will be available?
dank memes for sale go to custom games on the mp screen and u'll find it
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Well thats a fail on the kill zone description. Kill zone is the angle at which the game allows a 1 hit kill from behind. So a heavy weapon will have to be almost completely behind to 1 hit kill an opponent but the 2 hit kills from the front mean you should be winning a melee on melee fight. On a lot of the melee attacks in the video a regular small knife would have gotten a 1 hit kill from behind.
So in terms of melee alone a knife would be better for someone like me who only melee attacks very rarely and when its a near guaranteed kill whereas a heavy weapon would be better for duels. A medium weapon might be better for someone to rampage depending on the game, 2 hits to kill anyone below 90% isn't much of a downside if everyone has taken damage and the extra speed and kill zone is pretty useful. However melee weapons also have a some utility so personally I'm split between the hatchet for wood and barbed wire or just a knife and forget melee exists as usual.
damn! you're super good looking plus you can come up with this logical of an analysis of aspects of a multiplayer fps. The world needs more females like you.
I honestly have no idea what your problem with the takedown animation is. If an enemy has 50 health and you shoot him with a weapon that does more than 50 dmg he is dead. If there was no takedown amination and you would just swing the melee weapon for 55 dmg he'd be dead but entering an animation that has no effect other than slowing you down is OP somehow??? Explain it to me pls...
FritzZeGerman the problem is that it's auto lock on to people who you may not even be aiming at, giving a person no chance to do anything.
Odezy Beckhummice janior Does the auto lock on actually enlargen the hitbox or make it easier to hit someone (easier than just swinging the weapon)?
FritzZeGerman In the video, he showed hm killing a guy who wasn't even on his screen. The lock on is over 180%+ and it locks the other guy in an animation, making it impossible to counter or give a chance to fight back.
Odezy Beckhummice janior Ok didn't know that locking on was easier than just hitting normally so it actually is quite powerfull. Thank you for the information. :)
FritzZeGerman Yeah, but it's good that's it's being exploited. That's the easiest way to get something noticed and fixed.
I like the takedown mechanic, it balances itself by keeping yourself in the open longer, with potential to be shot by enemies.
how the fuck do you have all melee weapons? even the two that need puzzle pieces? like wtf?
Its possible that Dice gave him the unlocks since he does work with them in testing the game.
DaGreatBeRich well dat some bullshit
ZombieApocalypse he bought a lot of boxes to test out the weapon drop rates.
+ZombieApocalypse I mean he probably sold a lot of games for dice, they kind of owe him at least that
+ZombieApocalypse he advertises their game for them free of charge. Almost every day
I was hoping for some actual melee fighting, maybe blocking and doging
Yeah me too.
its never been in battlefield and I hope that never does
+Cade O'Kelly good for you
dude this is battlefield why would they make a whole combat system for a thing that doesn't happen much
+struggle snuggle why would they add a whole camo system to bf4 when it doesn't matter that much?
3:17 Uh, I dont think so. You really want DICE to make, what, 15 weapons have unique stats and shit? This isnt an RPG, I dont need my trench knife to do +15 fire damage to tanker classes or something.
The Hatchet also seems to have a slightly quicker take-down animation which is another reason I prefer it.
4:15 so, basically, if a weapon does enough damage to kill someone, and you hit them, you don't think it should kill them? Instead you think they should be able to fight back after their death?
This dude savagely murdered like 10 Ottoman Turks with a knife in one match.
The take down animation actually makes it harder to go only melee than if you just hit them and they die, with the take down animation it leaves you vulnerable for several seconds
Please make the German sniper a white guy
Chris Jordan y does it matter?
It matters because it's retarded. What's next? Russians will also be black in the next DLC? It's just retarded.
because it doesn't make any sense.
News flash, black people living in Europe too
Because it looks weird on the battlefield and takes you out of WWI, just like a pink gun camo would
i love how well and seriously level cap takes battlefield stats
its the same with the bayonet charge they sometimes just teleport 2-3 meter and all the sudden stab you
Vagabundo Nah the bayonet is difficult to hit. Sometimes your character runt straight through the enemy
never said the bayonet was easy, but i still seen pple all the sudden stab me when they were 3 meters away on my screen
Vagabundo Ah, that's because knives have the biggest melee range.
You miss easily in comparison though, nothing wrong with bajonets. The damn Cavalry blade though...
if you shoot some charging it should stop the charge. that whats wrong with it.
Wouldn't that be strange if they developed some sort of bullet takedown mechanic if your shot is somewhat lined up and your bullet would do enough damage to kill them lol.
ShardEye Like Sniper Elite maybe? 😉
Yeah only without the slow motion so it would be too fast to follow XD
Yeah a full speed bullet cam
It'd be trippy as hell if you had a machine gun and you sprayed into 10 people.
That would be atrocious. You will constantly be in animation .. the game would be broken.
Hi Level,can you make a video about tanks and their weak spots... or how to get better in tank battles
I dont mind these mechanics at all. And ive been playing BF since bf2
7:50 HERE'S JOHNNY!
Your video was very work an détail so nice work man !
But... i love takedowns :(
Seizmos yeah but they reduced the area in which one hit kills are in. A lot of times on the guys right or left and no takedown will commence even if i am just a tiny bit in their 180 degree front side
Thanks LVLCAP always nice to see your guide !
Wish battlefield had gore:(
Embo Slays It has a certain amount, like using all your dynamite on one person reduces them to bits, for example.
um, no it doesnt
Justin Held I have seen it happen
That's an interesting claim you have there... Prove it
mrdonutsucker it's not sarcasm the only type of gore is the melee anamaons.
I think its pretty accurate with the take downs, in World War I, most militaries had an insane idea of the range that most soldiers would fight at. I've seen pistol caliber carbines with sights that go out to 400 meters and think that most rifles on the battlefield were generally more than half as tall as the shooter. This meant that in the heat of battle, when an enemy was in your trench or behind your line; a knife, shovel, and table leg with hob nails was more valuable than your giant weapon.
Now the only thing that could make the takedown better is if your player whispers some sexual shit when you are taking someone down
"minecraft 18+ parody comes to mind.." "yes...and its ALL for youu"
Rich Homie Quan Chi
I'd prefer stupid puns...
"Can I 'axe' you a question?"
"'Axe-assination!'"
"'Knife' to meet you."
"Can you 'dig' it?"
"Lets bury this "hatchet.'"
One thing that could have been better is the animation for the sword. I expected slashing and stabbing instead of the chopping animation.
Don't get me wrong, i am loving this game. But you level up so slow and i personally feel like you don't get enough War Bonds per level. I don't like that you only get one item per battlepack now and the way you earn weapons kinda sucks but other than that...love it
Kieran you must be new to battlefield
Kieran Warbonds aren't an issue past level 40. You just need to prioritize the gadgets and weapons you want in the beginning.
BUGS BOONY Nope i played BF4 religiously. I think i'm just used to having an abundance of XP boosts
BUGS BOONY I forgot war bonds were apart of bf3 and 4. Also any other battlefield game had a fast level progression. So you must be new
+Creamy Canals The problem with that is the annoying disconnect problem thats been spreading for quite a lot of people. Currently, for no reason whatsoever, ill disconnect from the server. Making operations useless as the loads of time you spent playing wasted 3/4 of the way through when you lose your progress.
Brilliant video - i've been playing ages and never used a melee weapon and didn't know any of this - thanks for posting :)
The biggest flaw of all mele weapons is that without requiring any skills they're, all of sudden, more powerful than guns in close-quarter combat. One the animation begins u can do nothing but see urself die.
That's how World War 1 was.You either join the fight and die with honor or deny it and die dishonored.The same thing is WIth Tanks being powerful and sniper being powerful.This IS World War 1 after all.If you don't like it,then don't play it.
Dinesh Adhikari Melee was a massive part of WW1 dipshit. Try firing a bolt-action rifle while everyone is fighting in the trenches.
Kokku San Agreed,mate.
+Daniel Antony What the fuck? Did you even read what you typed - actually, go read that out loud to your parents. Go on.
Dinesh Adhikari shotgun can counter the animation i've done it and had it done to me
I actually like the takedown from front action. means you stand a better chance against smgs when using rifles. also it leaves you vulnerable, whereas finishing someone with a gun means you're mor ready for next foe. fair tradeoff imo.
Lol , see that crazy knife action with my deep song Almighty Vision :D
level cap is making darn good videos lately!
Best mela weapon
Shovel it's simple it's a fucking shovel
I'm surprised you didn't have a clip of shooting someone once and then hatchet. I really like that one revolver shot can be followed up instantly with a face hatchet when I'm caught off guard and have to panic defend.
The bat reminds me of Lucille in the walking dead⛓⚙
There is actually an exclusive melee weapon with barbed wire xD It looks like the spike club but with barbed wire and i instantly thought of lucille
dank memes for sale Logitech gave them away to the first 5000 who retweeted it :/ ..
I got the weapon lol
She's so dirty!!! Lol
(My friend is on the other team, but in XBL Party) "Hey man.." "What?" "I need to AXE you a question! *kills him with Hatchet*" "God Damnit, Cerb!"
YOU GOT EVERYTHING IN THE GAME ALREADY?
Lol, it isn't hard. The only thing that is hard is getting THOSE FUCKING CAMOS.
TR33TS 202 Well when every level up past 25 gives you enough war bonds to buy a new gun, hell it probably goes up again later.
TR33TS 202 I'm level 42. If i remember correctly, it gave me 280 warbonds last time i ranked up.
+TheCyclone911 I'm lvl. 62 it's gives me 570
Unit 24 love and hate your profile pic
Srsly it's absolutely illogical how the combat knife has wider attack range than a shovel or a hatchet.
Liaret
Well, it’s lighter so maybe their logic was it can be moved faster/further. Idk.
If someone gets close enough to you to melee you down from 100 health, you deserve that brutal death. If you're fighting someone close up and end having low HP and they melee you first, sorry but they out played you. Everyone is complaining about this takedown animation, but did you all forget that most of the time you die right away from someone else while doing the animation? Awesome you melee killed someone, but you instantly died right after. Melee isn't a big deal at all. You people are complaining about nothing.
Krimlo Most of the time I hear people saying they can't react or stab them just because they were low health, but that's the point, that exact swing would have killed you anyways thus it grants the animation.
How are so many people missing the point? Didn't you listen to the video? The problem isn't the takedown the problem is the auto lock on that initiates it. Getting the takedown when you didn't even look at the guy is just plain dumb. I'd be fine with the animation if it would require me actually aiming at my enemy.
I just like the spiked club because the takedown animations are absolutely brutal.
Hey level can you please do more squad up gameplay
thanks for this, i was just spending my extra warbonds unlocking melee weapons last night, and i was wondering about the takedown mechanics. now i know!
Great, now know what all the kids are goind to be doing now, trying to run around in completely open areas with no cover trying to use their knifes....
ComputersAreRealCool I did knives only on COD back in the day. It's possible to get good at melee in shooters, you just have to know the map and be batman.
Good info, thanks for the video. Next I'd like to know at what scope zoom level the scope glint appears.
If anything when I get this game in my birthday and immediately play as medic and use the shovel. The hatchet's overrated and I just don't see the point of having weapons that can cut through barbed wire since you'll die doing it. For playing as medic I just think that I should ever since I played as a medic in tf2 and tfc and Mercy from Overwatch. I just find it relaxing to heal people.
More supports plz, I can't resupply ps4 by myself
Lol, you don't die cutting wire... Where did you get that from?
+Ze insane Medic and it comes from another medic...
nothing I just thought about it. I mean in the game there will be a swarm of infantry attacking
Ze insane Medic Getting shot while casually breaking wires isn't that good of an Idea. maybe lie down, but standing like a knob won't cut it.
you just earned a subscribe, you're killing it with bf1 bro!
I like to club baby seals
honestly tho if they removed the lock-on melee wouldn't be nearly as OP
Bajonett, now with extra length so you can shishkebap two guys at the same time;)
Blow the whistle, charge, XP.
The funny thing is that the kills which are not in the killzone, like swinging while sidestepping,
and hitting the enemy midswing are faster and not triggering the animations, as far as i experienced.
Counter-knife in BF4 was bullshit, I'm glad they got rid of it.
Good to know, didn't know about that. When I get home, I'll look into a good melee weapon now.
5 mins of repeating the same info, and doesn't mention how dumb the animation is (you're open to enemy attacks while doing it).
James C looks cool as fuck doing it though
James C I'd prefer to be left open instead of slapping a stick a cross a guy's back and killing him instantly. I love seeing my character split another man's collar bone with a pickaxe.
pick axe is BEAST, it gives you the takedown animation everytime you get close enough to an enemy.
I'm vegan. I just wanted to let you all know that
I just ate chicken enchiladas with hatch peppers and melted pepper jack cheese. It was great.
Oh you're vegan. I didn't know that. And I didn't know that.
John McDowell filthy frank reference ;)
I care!!!!!!!!! ABOUT THE ANIMALS AHHHHHHHHH
Vegetarianism and veganism is overall detrimental to animals as the animals we eat would never had been alive otherwise. To put it into terms of humans, it would be like saying people shouldn't be born if they are destined to die early (as in middle aged or earlier.) And p.s. I didn't need to know that you're a vegan
Very useful information, Levelcap. Also, I use one of the clubs to melee someone.
#ripmatimio
I feel like you and matimio have really enlightened the battlefield community about things we are to lazy to research ourselves
jeez people on the pc really suck at bf xD
Sjon Hompiestompie Is that sarcasm?
Trent F naw man, if you try running around with a knife on the ps4 you're going to get your ass handed to you. half of the people in this video dont even know this guy exists. next to that they cant aim for shit seeing as hes running right at them and they cant even kill him
Sjon Hompiestompie I promise you players on pc are much better, in my experience. I dominated bad company 2 and bf3 on console, pc is much more competitive. You're looking at a few minutes of video here, it's not indicative of the general experience on pc.
Trent F Never played bf1 on the pc but i have played plenty of other shooters, the amount of people that suck balls is pretty high.
Sjon Hompiestompie A ton of players on pc have been playing battlefield since battlefield 1942, 16 years of experience and they're good.
How do you get the dog tag at 5:02?
"This is a broken system. Instead of being even moderately honorable, I'm going to exploit the Shit out of this." This is why I've stopped watching these videos. He's a try hard to the point of ruining literally anyone else's fun.
the best way to make a company fix something is to exploit the hell out of it, especially with EA and dice. but since your brain can't get it, you can just go unsubscribe, nobody cares about you anyway.
Well it isn't really exploiting if the system was designed that way.
I just really dislike the distinct lack of honor he has now. If the other team is losing by a lot, He'll say "Aw, we're rolling them." And nothing else. If I can I switch teams. It makes it a bit more balanced, and overall fun. That's honor. LC doesn't have that. No Fun Allowed, as long as his K/D is good.
Christian Pineda If it's overly powerful, it probably wasn't meant to be like that. They will probably fix it eventually, but in the meantime, we have Tryhards abusing that.
Also, Alessio Fantini, obviously, you cared enough to reply.
It's a video game...relax
you cant impose an honor etiquette on a whole player base. but nothing in this video is even broken or exploitable. its just degrees of efficiency. all the melee weapons function very similarly with slight pros and slight cons. what is there to even be upset about
Very helpful thankyou:) your videos are always great and provide lots of useful info. Plus just relaxing and fun to watch and learn.. keep it up👍🏻
The shovel is my favorite... I love the brutal animation that plays when you take someone down.
An Axe would be more accurate in close quarters than a firearm, imagine the space an Axe takes up during its swing in a arc and now imagine the space a bullet takes up in its path of direction, that way I feel the "lock on" animation is justified as you are right next to them after all
wow I didn't know this! great info cap!
Hey Level Cap! If you ever decide to do loadout for Battlefield 1, here is a basic loadout to start out with.
Basic U.S. Infantryman:: primary: M1903 bolt action w/ iron sights and bayonet, secondary: M1911, gadgets: k bullet or demolition charges, and parascope or signal flare. Thanks
The hatchet seemed like it was the best, thanks for confirming
I'm going for that Sawtooth knife. Only got 2 pieces, but that's because the game hates me and never wants to give me battlepacks