Thank you, Alois. I’m rediscovering table tennis, in my sixties (played low level competition in the ‘70s). I watched your match against Di Napoli; reminded me of the very top players 😊
Thanks Alois this was overdue you´re on my favourites list forever;-) I finde these longer vids really helpfull and I`d be curious to see what you recommend playing against long pimples or antispin.
The most complete explanation of fighting short pimples i've seen. I dont have problem beating long pimples player, but short pips sometimes frustrating😂
Nice as usual! When Im training regularly, I prefer this kind of opponents (with short or long pimples) since I tend to have more control on the game and try to win it slowly. When Im a little out of training, I prefer regular inverted rubbers for them, since I can't control the ball as much and miss easy ones, so I must go for shorter rallies.
Quessinf you as most people have the issues with there return on your serve. Tip is to serve fast serve with no spin to all over there short pimp side so you get a "normal" return where you can do a aggresive loop on the 3rd ball.
I have lots of problem playing against long pimple, so I just bought one. I practice against and with it with a friend of mine. Really helps to understand why its behaving how its behaving this way.
Great to hear. That sounds very smart to start using the long pimples yourself in order to understand how they work. Good luck on improving against them!
Thanks Alois, these detailed explanations are exactly what I was looking for. I was often overwhelmed when I had to play against material players, because nobody in my club plays this stuff. One more question: does it really make sense to play mainly on the material side, as this is usually the "weaker" side?
Great question. Which side to play to really does depend on each opponent. As they are using the pimples all the time it might not always be the weaker side. I think this is something you need to work out for each player. Glad you liked the video.
Those short pips ( TSP Spin pips Blue) look very bouncy and spinny, and very likely more sensitive to incoming spin. Would have preferred to see how he plays with Friendship 802.
When I backhand push or chop to a short pimple player the ball goes back very high and the short pips player just smashes and wins the point. How Shd I backhand push?? Or Shd I try backhand drive and not push n chop?
So in your situation the player plays with short pips on both sides of the rubber? I usually encounter people who have one side of normal and one side of pips. Makes you focus extra harder.
@@pingskills but during my match last night I tried to put your words in to action. But I still too much of a spinner. Did feel way more in control so thank you!
Thanks a lot. What about short pips players playing the pips on their forehand? I struggle a lot against them. It feels like they can attack every ball coming to their forehand. How to beat them? Appreciate it
Great question. We might add this topic to our list for a future video. I think most of the principles in this video still apply. See if you can play using heavy backspin or topspin when going to their forehand. Also if you think there forehand is the strongest side consider playing more to the backhand. Sometimes you need to go wide to their forehand first and then you'll be able to get the next ball into their backhand. Hope this helps. Good luck!
Hi, do you have any method of how to Chop the balls coming from Short pips? I'm a Chopper and I find quite hard to chop with my inverted on Forehand against this fast and flatter hits coming from Short Pips, but when I could Chop them, the next ball becoming bit easier cause my opponent would rather lift the chop with his Short Pips rather than hit it flat but when the receiving not much backspin or quite high he could easily flat hit back to me. My opponent is using Short Pips or Medium Pips with sponge on his Forehand. I find it a bit easier to chop on my backhand using longpips. I might need your instruction what I should pay attention when chopping especially using inverted on my Forehand, I'm a typical classic defensive style, Fh and Bh chops with attacks, thanks so much
Thanks for sharing. It certainly might be easier for you to do this with short pimples but would when using the short pimples do you prefer a topspin with just a little bit of spin or a really heavy topspin? Which of those two is harder with the short pimples?
@pingskills Well, it really depends to be honest. The heavy topspin is a harder shot to return in general, so even if I was to play with inverted rubbers, I would always prefer a topspin with less spin. But specifically for me. With the short pimples, I don't have to close my racket as much as I have to with the with the inverted rubber because the ball doesn't bounce as much and because of that it's easier to adjust to return a heavy topspin with the pimples instead of an inverted rubber. For me personally, the hardest shots I find hard to return with the pimples are very low strong topspins because when the ball is low and fast and doesn't have spin I can't lift the ball up and it often goes to the net. Rather, if the ball has a lot of spin but it's high, it's easier to counter with the pimples. But the main disadvantage when people play really strong topspins against my pimples is as you said in the video the ball returns with no spin after and I'm personally using the Blowfish pimples and with them the ball returns really fast with no spin against these shots. So I think really the best case is, if the player doesn't feel confident enough with his topsins to play slower spiny topspins but it's important for them to be low because the short pimple players in general are good at attacking all kind of high balls no matter the spin and the lower balls is their main weakness. Now, these are all my personal thoughts. I'm not a professional player and I'm talking from personal experience so I could be wrong.
It should be forbidden or have catergory for itself. Its just boring, not good looking and the only guy who is enjoying it is the guy who plays it and has bad technique on either forehand oder backhand to play normal rubers. That was is and will be always a fact.
No way. Look at the top short pip hitters. Amazing power and directness. All off the bounce, quick reflexes and speed. One could also argue that reverse rubbers, especially the fast modern ones, only offer one pace, of which is very fast.
A lot of people have this attitude. I think it's a part of the game and the more you play against these types of rubbers the better you will do against them.
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Thank you, Alois.
I’m rediscovering table tennis, in my sixties (played low level competition in the ‘70s).
I watched your match against Di Napoli; reminded me of the very top players 😊
Thanks for sharing. We hear lots of stories like yours. Good luck with your comeback! Let us know how it is going.
Thanks Alois this was overdue you´re on my favourites list forever;-) I finde these longer vids really helpfull and I`d be curious to see what you recommend playing against long pimples or antispin.
Thanks for the kind words. We'll certainly add those ideas to our list for future videos!
The most complete explanation of fighting short pimples i've seen. I dont have problem beating long pimples player, but short pips sometimes frustrating😂
Nice as usual! When Im training regularly, I prefer this kind of opponents (with short or long pimples) since I tend to have more control on the game and try to win it slowly. When Im a little out of training, I prefer regular inverted rubbers for them, since I can't control the ball as much and miss easy ones, so I must go for shorter rallies.
I don't really have a problem playing against pips, except one thing - actually winning any games 😅
haha, hopefully this video helps :) Good luck!
Quessinf you as most people have the issues with there return on your serve. Tip is to serve fast serve with no spin to all over there short pimp side so you get a "normal" return where you can do a aggresive loop on the 3rd ball.
@@Afropalmen good advice! One of the short pip players even told me this himself, watching my misery lol
Very well explained…the best explanation I have ever seen.
Thanks buddy God Bless
Thanks u alois for explaining short pimple rubber so well
My pleasure 😊
Best video in you tube explaining how to play aginst back pimples...thanks a lot...👌
Our pleasure.
I have lots of problem playing against long pimple, so I just bought one.
I practice against and with it with a friend of mine. Really helps to understand why its behaving how its behaving this way.
Great to hear. That sounds very smart to start using the long pimples yourself in order to understand how they work. Good luck on improving against them!
Köszönöm, nagyon hasznos volt a videó ! 😊
You're welcome.
Thanks Alois, these detailed explanations are exactly what I was looking for. I was often overwhelmed when I had to play against material players, because nobody in my club plays this stuff. One more question: does it really make sense to play mainly on the material side, as this is usually the "weaker" side?
Great question. Which side to play to really does depend on each opponent. As they are using the pimples all the time it might not always be the weaker side. I think this is something you need to work out for each player. Glad you liked the video.
this was a great video, if you do more long-form videos like this I'd like to keep watching them. You can cut out bits into shorts as well.
Thanks for the feedback. I'm glad you liked the video!
Ive wanted a video on playing AGAINST SP for so long thank you! TH-cam is fill of how to use them.
I'm glad you found it useful. Good luck next time you play someone with short pips!
This is amazing thank you for the tips now I can finally play a good match against that 1 guy in my club who is using pimples
Awesome! Glad the tips are helping. Now you can go out and challenge that short pimple player with confidence. Best of luck in your matches!
Those short pips ( TSP Spin pips Blue) look very bouncy and spinny, and very likely more sensitive to incoming spin. Would have preferred to see how he plays with Friendship 802.
Yes, those short pimples have a sponge and do generate quite a bit of spin.
When I backhand push or chop to a short pimple player the ball goes back very high and the short pips player just smashes and wins the point. How Shd I backhand push?? Or Shd I try backhand drive and not push n chop?
So in your situation the player plays with short pips on both sides of the rubber? I usually encounter people who have one side of normal and one side of pips. Makes you focus extra harder.
No, you are right. In most cases the player uses short pips on the backhand. There are a few players though who do use short pimples on both sides.
@@pingskills but during my match last night I tried to put your words in to action. But I still too much of a spinner. Did feel way more in control so thank you!
@@Theunbe Good to hear you are making progress. Keep working hard.
Thanks a lot. What about short pips players playing the pips on their forehand? I struggle a lot against them. It feels like they can attack every ball coming to their forehand. How to beat them? Appreciate it
Great question. We might add this topic to our list for a future video. I think most of the principles in this video still apply. See if you can play using heavy backspin or topspin when going to their forehand. Also if you think there forehand is the strongest side consider playing more to the backhand. Sometimes you need to go wide to their forehand first and then you'll be able to get the next ball into their backhand. Hope this helps. Good luck!
Thanks for the video
Our pleasure!
Hello!! great channel, could you please inform us what is the rubber used in short pips?
Thanks. I can't recall which short pips we used for this video. The exact type is not really as important as the principles we were trying to discuss.
Thanks for your amazing videos!❤️
Thanks for watching!
Hi, do you have any method of how to Chop the balls coming from Short pips? I'm a Chopper and I find quite hard to chop with my inverted on Forehand against this fast and flatter hits coming from Short Pips, but when I could Chop them, the next ball becoming bit easier cause my opponent would rather lift the chop with his Short Pips rather than hit it flat but when the receiving not much backspin or quite high he could easily flat hit back to me. My opponent is using Short Pips or Medium Pips with sponge on his Forehand. I find it a bit easier to chop on my backhand using longpips. I might need your instruction what I should pay attention when chopping especially using inverted on my Forehand, I'm a typical classic defensive style, Fh and Bh chops with attacks, thanks so much
Excellent you tube
Glad you liked it.
To be honest as a short pimple player it's a lot easier for me to return heavy topspin with the pips instead of an inverted rubber.
Thanks for sharing. It certainly might be easier for you to do this with short pimples but would when using the short pimples do you prefer a topspin with just a little bit of spin or a really heavy topspin? Which of those two is harder with the short pimples?
@pingskills Well, it really depends to be honest. The heavy topspin is a harder shot to return in general, so even if I was to play with inverted rubbers, I would always prefer a topspin with less spin. But specifically for me. With the short pimples, I don't have to close my racket as much as I have to with the with the inverted rubber because the ball doesn't bounce as much and because of that it's easier to adjust to return a heavy topspin with the pimples instead of an inverted rubber. For me personally, the hardest shots I find hard to return with the pimples are very low strong topspins because when the ball is low and fast and doesn't have spin I can't lift the ball up and it often goes to the net. Rather, if the ball has a lot of spin but it's high, it's easier to counter with the pimples. But the main disadvantage when people play really strong topspins against my pimples is as you said in the video the ball returns with no spin after and I'm personally using the Blowfish pimples and with them the ball returns really fast with no spin against these shots. So I think really the best case is, if the player doesn't feel confident enough with his topsins to play slower spiny topspins but it's important for them to be low because the short pimple players in general are good at attacking all kind of high balls no matter the spin and the lower balls is their main weakness.
Now, these are all my personal thoughts. I'm not a professional player and I'm talking from personal experience so I could be wrong.
@@Joygulplay blowfish plus or normal?
8:44 How to put them further from the table?
do people still call them trash rubber?
Yes, or funny rubber!
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Thanks for your support :)
I'm losing TT friends after playing with medium pips.. but that's ok, they need to adapt. hahaha
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welcum to the dark side
haha!
It should be forbidden or have catergory for itself. Its just boring, not good looking and the only guy who is enjoying it is the guy who plays it and has bad technique on either forehand oder backhand to play normal rubers. That was is and will be always a fact.
No way. Look at the top short pip hitters. Amazing power and directness. All off the bounce, quick reflexes and speed. One could also argue that reverse rubbers, especially the fast modern ones, only offer one pace, of which is very fast.
A lot of people have this attitude. I think it's a part of the game and the more you play against these types of rubbers the better you will do against them.
@@pingskills I mean its just my opinion, may be wrong but 🤷♂️
@@topke5642 No, that's all fine. Everyone is entitled to their opinion :)
You are getting old
Yes, it happens to all of us :)