Who is a 2011 for? GrandWizard Wampler explains

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  • @eliseofranco1328
    @eliseofranco1328 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    Ben driving a miata was not on my bingo card........ but one look and it makes so much sense😅

    • @Slippindisc
      @Slippindisc หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      a lot of car guys like them because theyre rwd, you can wring it out with relatively ^low^ stakes cause it doesnt go that fast or cost that much

  • @milspecmike8440
    @milspecmike8440 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    In the words of Ferris Bueller, “if you have the means, I highly suggest picking one up”.

  • @machiavellireborn7541
    @machiavellireborn7541 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    I think Ben secretly competes in the MX-5 Cup

  • @AnthonyGarcia-qr7px
    @AnthonyGarcia-qr7px หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I was in the same boat. I thought a 2011 would solve all my problems on the range then I got a beretta 92x performance then a Cz Shadow 2 then I figured it was me all along. 😅 2:48

    • @OrionCorsari
      @OrionCorsari หลายเดือนก่อน

      We have all been in that boat…welcome to the club dude.😉

  • @traillesstravelled7901
    @traillesstravelled7901 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yeah, on the internet, regular maintenance could be anything from rebuilding the gun from scratch after each magazine to one drop of rem oil every century.

  • @Slippindisc
    @Slippindisc หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    the titles are getting better and better

  • @CranjisMcBasketballMD
    @CranjisMcBasketballMD หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I use the Miata analogy all the time when it comes to 2011s. Max Verstappen will be faster around a track in a Miata than 98% of people will be in a 911. That said if you have 911 money, there’s no reason not to buy a 911 as you’ll enjoy it more than a Miata. Is it “worth it” from a strict dollar perspective considering most 911 owners can’t out drive a Miata? No, but the people who drive them sure seem to love them. Same for 2011s, most owners can’t outshoot a Glock or shadow, but that doesn’t make them any less enjoyable if you have the cash

  • @johnshipman4906
    @johnshipman4906 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    You need to invite Joe Chambers on. Although I doubt he would entertain a convo with you.

    • @veryhappyturtle
      @veryhappyturtle หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      that would be a pretty funny and/or informative video if that did end up happening.

  • @ronney2a
    @ronney2a หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its interesting how much talk goes into owning a 2011/DS1911, if you like the platform then buy one and train and have fun with it, its not complicated, its just a gun, ive had mines for years now, and yes you do have to maintain it a little more than a glock in my own experience but I just clean it after every range trip which i enjoy doing

  • @mcninjatoes
    @mcninjatoes หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Only the truest knowledge of siggers can be obtained by grand Cyclopes like Ben🎉

  • @BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
    @BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Buying a Shadow 2 kept me from buying a 2011. I do want a DWX though for the trigger.

  • @olivedrabperformance
    @olivedrabperformance หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    He should have tracked with your Mazda analogy… Glock or something of that nature vs staccato…. Jeep vs Land Cruiser… they both get you off-road, one is a little more comfortable, both need maintenance , but one will cost you twice as much to maintain, and only the owner can justify it for themselves whether it’s worth it…

    • @Thergood
      @Thergood หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      This is a great analogy. However, as a Toyota guy, I would point out that in this case, the Landcruiser is the Glock when it comes to reliability and cost of maintenance 😁

    • @swiftaudi
      @swiftaudi หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The Land Cruiser would be more like a shadow systems. Its a Glock but it cost more initially.

    • @armani_5.565
      @armani_5.565 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Thergood this lol

    • @somethinganything4864
      @somethinganything4864 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The og land rover defender would be a better analogy for the staccato. Land Cruisers are more reliable than jeeps.

  • @Thergood
    @Thergood หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Worth is a personal/individual judgement of value. No one can tell you whether something is "worth it" or not for you. We can talk about whether or not something is a good VALUE compared to price and functionality of competing options. A Staccato is probably not a good value when compared to a Glock. At the same time, it could be a good value when compared to many of the custom 2011 options. Worth depends on what's important to YOU and what YOU are looking for out a firearm. It's up to YOU to make the judgement of whether it's worth it or not for you.

  • @KSwanson-r7g
    @KSwanson-r7g หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I still don’t know who a 2011 is for.

  • @Frntrgrpblake
    @Frntrgrpblake หลายเดือนก่อน

    Maintenance schedule wise I have noticed they need more lubricant but i don’t clean them much more often than I cleaned my Glock. You can keep adding oil for a while 😅 but honestly I let them go until I start having problems most of the time.

  • @rolotomase1440
    @rolotomase1440 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    If you want one get one....but you don't need it to be good...and thinking you do probably just gets in the way of that. YMMV.

  • @Rooster-q3x
    @Rooster-q3x หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Anyone who F'ing wants to.I carried Glocks all my life but got a Staccato P and it's my daily carry and do all be all gun now. The price is irrelevant to me. I love the platform and the classic look of any 1911. It doesn't make me shoot better but doesn't emphasize my mistakes either.

  • @hez2k
    @hez2k หลายเดือนก่อน

    Dave Wampler is also well known in the autocross community. I think he was also a national champion in autocross . I can see how they are closely linked.

  • @lankyjeep8432
    @lankyjeep8432 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    In my view 2011’s are like classic cars, if you drive them the same distance as your daily Honda civic more parts break and need replacing, is the classic car more fun, absolutely, can it be as reliable potentially, but the amount of preventive maintenance is way higher compared to the simple oil changes and tire rotations of the Civic

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      More like a restomod than a classic.

    • @lankyjeep8432
      @lankyjeep8432 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@armorers_wrench sort of, but realistically the system itself is still a 1911, it’s more like a classic car you put fuel injection on instead of a carburetor, everything else is the same except it’s slightly more modern

  • @calculusentropy
    @calculusentropy หลายเดือนก่อน

    Recent Staccato carry optics aside, they've only ever been builds for Open shooters. Limited. Always custom, always tuned, always max expense. The market it so full of other choices these $4-5K guns are very narrowly of interest to any value oriented shooters.

  • @KP-Pro2A
    @KP-Pro2A หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Think of it like any other daily use item, take my car for example. I have to get up and go to work every day. I can drive a Hyundai or I can drive a Mercedes. Both of them are going to get me from point A to point B. When I get to work, I’m going to make the same amount of money no matter which car I drove to work that day. So sometimes it’s just about the ride itself. There’s no question that a Mercedes is a better ride than a Hyundai.
    Where are people very are in their expectations. If you’re buying a 2011 because you think it will make you a better shooter, you’re spending money on the ride instead of learning to drive better. And probably aren’t going to get the results that you want.
    You have the budget and you just downright want a better ride a better experience, a better straight back trigger, press, etc. than a 2011 might scratch that itch. but you can’t expect it to make you a better shooter without putting the same amount of work. It would take to Chute 1 inch groups from a Glock. It’s still depends on how you drive it.
    That being said, I’m an older guy. I’ve carried and owned Glock 19’s for over the last 20 years. You don’t have to treat them nice they aren’t picky. You can just shoot them. They are what they are, I’m at a point in my life where the ride matters, I don’t mind , tinkering with a gun that may be more sensitive than a Glock or M&P. I’ve been carrying a Wilson EDCx9 for a little over a year now, it’s a great gun. I love to shoot it. The trigger is great. By far the most expensive gun I’ve ever bought. I still carry it the same way that I carried my Glock. It looks worn, the finish isn’t perfect on it anymore. It’s not a safe queen, I carry it every day. I just like the ride better than the Glock these days.
    (Edit)-I typed this all out before I listening to the whole video, didn’t realize Ben was going to make the same car comparison. We’re definitely on the same page.

  • @Nick--_
    @Nick--_ หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben, tell us about your Miata. What generation? What color? Is it modified?

  • @lordhellfire153
    @lordhellfire153 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Instructions unclear, bought a Sig

  • @SherlockTowers
    @SherlockTowers หลายเดือนก่อน

    The 2011 is going to continue to go through growing pains for a long time. We just got reliable(ish) 9mm mags. For any caliber that isn't 9mm mag tuning is still an issue. I've never been able to get 10mm to run reliably out of an STI to the point I would carry it on a hunt. It works mind you, just not as well as say a WAY cheaper XDM 10mm. All the parts are fitted which is going to require more people to move into the armorer space to work on them. And that leads to it's own set of issues, I foresee quite a bit of home gunsmithing that goes awry. This ain't your daddy's Mazda but it's not a race car either. It's somewhere in between as far as maintenance and reliability. Most shooters will not put the time into the platform that it needs and will still be better served with a PDP or CZ and a lot more trigger time.
    In short, buy Glock, shoot Glock, rinse, repeat.

  • @carlb86
    @carlb86 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Racing is great and anything enabling it within budget is excellent. Be that a Glock or a Miata.

  • @TheStapler9000
    @TheStapler9000 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I bought a prodigy because of wampler.

  • @GLOCKsh00ter24
    @GLOCKsh00ter24 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A fast shooter will absolutely be able to shoot faster splits with a 2011. When I was shooting them in limited my splits on a confirmation 1 target were routinely 0.14s. When my grip was right 0.11-0.12 on the really honey targets. With my Shadow 2s I have trouble breaking 0.15s. That's with a 2.5# SA trigger.
    Does it matter? No. Can you shoot faster splits with a 2011 than a S2? Yes.

  • @dvc_joe
    @dvc_joe หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I'm shooting an Atlas Titan RDS thanks to Wampler's influence and it has helped me get to my next level alongside all his advice. Wampler's the man.

  • @mabutarif
    @mabutarif หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you Ben. These videos are entertaining, the comments more so than the videos :-).
    Who is the BMW sedan for? For 99% of your needs, you can use a Camry that is less than one third the price and be OK.
    Can you drive a BMW as your daily car?
    Does a BMW require more maintenance and more costly to maintain than a Camry?
    Do you enjoy driving the BMW more than a Camry? Is it “worth it”?
    Can a good driver drive the Camry better than the horrible driver driving a BMW? Will buying a BMW make me a better driver?
    With all that said, is everyone buying a BMW stupid?
    Dinner, can you get a good nutritional value grilling chicken at home? Why the hell would you go to a steakhouse and pay 20 times more for dinner?
    If you pay a ton of money in a steakhouse, should you expect to get good quality steak? Should you expect and demand good service?
    Humans are humans. Fun to watch these videos and I get a laugh about them and really fun to see the emotional people with strong opinions: “don’t talk bad about my Staccato” or “you are an idiot for buying anything other than a Glock and a Tacoma”
    Or I love the guys that shit on wasting money on a Staccato but spend $12k on a suspension raising their truck 3” :-)

  • @Manoffire959
    @Manoffire959 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    "Just keep it wet" is exactly what every 2011 owner says whenever someone else's doesn't work lol

  • @JMpracticalshooting
    @JMpracticalshooting หลายเดือนก่อน

    Venom customs 2011s are twice the price of staccatos what are your thoughts on custom fit and finish 5k plus guns

  • @firefly11101
    @firefly11101 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Interesting timing for ending the clip. I remember you seeming to be kind of annoyed when you first bought the staccatos due to it being finicky.

  • @ianaquila1858
    @ianaquila1858 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This whole platform, aside from being an identity for a lot of people, seems to be like a Ferrari that most folks still can’t drive to the limit, and because of that it chokes. It also chokes when you don’t drive it hard. It also ends up needing FAR more maintenance than “normal” performance vehicles. So it chokes all the time. Staccato: Just like a Ferrari. 😂

  • @myanaloglife9450
    @myanaloglife9450 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    No..he said keep it wet, which is true of most guns, if they’re wet they will run..what’s the problem, we all have more oil at home than we will ever use..

  • @practicepractice5719
    @practicepractice5719 หลายเดือนก่อน +28

    This guys answers 2011 questions like a politician…….words with no depth….

    • @fatdaddy2485
      @fatdaddy2485 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wtf would you like him to say?

    • @armorers_wrench
      @armorers_wrench หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      How much depth are you expecting here bud? The question is "Who are 2011s for?" and the answer is basically "Anyone with money who wants to buy that type of pistol" lmao. You're taking this far too seriously.

    • @practicepractice5719
      @practicepractice5719 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@armorers_wrench Correct, the answer to the question is the same for any firearm: (whoever wants to pay for it)……I imagine Ben did not do a call with this guy to get that generic of an answer(maybe he did 🤷‍♂️)……however, I’m betting, no matter what I say, you’re going to find something contrary to it………and no I’m not taking this seriously……if I was more serious I wouldn’t be watching Ben troll folks on TH-cam 😁

    • @Ben-ln1jq
      @Ben-ln1jq หลายเดือนก่อน

      and he called me poor

  • @Fonzypaintball212
    @Fonzypaintball212 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Get the MPA Ben DO IT

  • @raymicciche8869
    @raymicciche8869 หลายเดือนก่อน

    A 2011 is for the person who bought a Tesla in 2020 and lost 30% after they drove it off the lot, washes it 3 times a week, and doesn’t mind watching the battery capacity diminish 10% every year until the 30K battery fails. 😅

  • @tylerfrogley1227
    @tylerfrogley1227 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hahaha the comments here are classic

  • @JKCullens
    @JKCullens หลายเดือนก่อน

    Factory S2 is fine down to .13 splits

    • @rannot4611
      @rannot4611 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not tried S2 yet, but unmodded S1 does easy 0.07-8 for close targets. Old Sig X5 goes faster 0.05 splits.

    • @JKCullens
      @JKCullens หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@rannot4611 thats just with my finger, can confirm that however swapping from an S2 to a 1911 i did drop from a .13 to .11

  • @ComputersAre8ad
    @ComputersAre8ad หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Is there a longer conversation somewhere? I'd love to see a longer conversation!

  • @ComputersAre8ad
    @ComputersAre8ad หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Wampler is laughing inside when Ben says he paid a lot of money for Staccatos when the Atlases start 2k above an XC.

    • @GiveMeThatCake
      @GiveMeThatCake หลายเดือนก่อน

      4kish is still a lot of money.

    • @ComputersAre8ad
      @ComputersAre8ad หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@GiveMeThatCake never said it wasn’t. Was a statement of viewpoint.

  • @michaelschuerhoff
    @michaelschuerhoff หลายเดือนก่อน

    My teammate is regularly hitting 0.10 splits with his Shadow 2. Homie is def not outrunning his Shadow.

  • @JohnDoe-mf5sc
    @JohnDoe-mf5sc หลายเดือนก่อน

    A 2011 isn’t a Mazada. It’s more like a super snake or a zr1 vette. Yes it’s off the show room floor or factor out of the box but tolerances and deviation is less, can’t just swap parts into a 1911 like you can a Glock. a Honda civic drive it change the oil sometimes it’s probably gonna be fine. Take a 700-800 hp supercharged car tuned kinda on the brink and get it too hot or put too thin of oil in it or the wrong octane fuel and you could run into big issues.
    I fully agree that staccatos marketing these as duty guns ready to run was a bad idea. Atlas gun works and many of the other vastly superior builders who’ve built and run 1911s way harder than Ben stoger, seriously guys like bill wilson have been building 1911s since Ben was in diapers. And when those guys are saying change x part at x interval … I’ll listen to them. It’s real simple if the double stack 1911 does it for you and you have the money and you’re willing to deal with occasional issues here and there then get one they are a blast! I have way more for with my 2011s than I do my Glocks. Yes it goes bang blah blah. But I go eh should probably shoot that Glock it’s been a while vs oh hell ya gonna sneak out this weekend and shoot my 2011s so for me it’s worth it. Other people maybe not and that’s fine at the end of the day it’s just a tool, if you don’t like it don’t get it use a different tool. More than one way to skin a cat.

  • @DanDan-cl7em
    @DanDan-cl7em หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sigga > The Grand Wizard

  • @RetARMYjohn
    @RetARMYjohn หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Too simple but, “certain” people take this to such extremes and try to tell you to re-invent the wheel with these things. Great video! You should send this to all the trolls that try telling you to “buy a cnc machine” to fix your 2011.

  • @danielweissenborn3508
    @danielweissenborn3508 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'd argue almost anyone is going to be a better shooter with a 500$ Glock 17 and 4500$ in ammo used in training than a $5000 gun with 50$ of ammo used in training.

  • @Osprey1994
    @Osprey1994 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Grand Wizard???

  • @practicepractice5719
    @practicepractice5719 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    This guy wasn’t that helpful…..

  • @wvlongshooter3912
    @wvlongshooter3912 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great interview, straight to the point and all of the information said that needed to be said. It doesn’t have to be complicated but I guarantee there will be comments wanting more information. Dang it, shooters can be ignorant. Thanks!!

  • @kenwickes2497
    @kenwickes2497 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    2011 is for someone who wants to shoot major power factor with no or one reload and refuses to learn how to pull a trigger correctly. That 2011/1911 trigger masks your lack of trigger control. As well as money being no object. Chances are you can already reload major ammo and have all that stuff already. And it's probably not on a dillon.

  • @tomwilson1006
    @tomwilson1006 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Keep it wet & clean and it should run without issue. For that price, it better not malfunction AT ALL!

    • @BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw
      @BullseyeBallistics-kf1jw หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree. You're really paying for tighter tolerances and tighter lockup. Getting that and also reliability is a slippery slope.

  • @chap23305
    @chap23305 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    "I'm out running my Shadow 2"???? Lol someone tell Graufel or Sailor this 😂😂😂

  • @BratacOfChulak
    @BratacOfChulak หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s simple the 2011 is for people who also buy high end BMWs and Audis . They drive really well but are not reliable , and mostly a status symbol. Out side of serious shooters the only people I know who own stecattos and frankly can afford them are rich Asians who always buy the best thing despite skill level and good for them if they have the money go for it and they can pay a gun smith to go over their gun everytime they go to the range. Sound familiar these are BMWs If you want to go to work every day buy a Toyota buy a glock .

  • @WheelChairBlaster
    @WheelChairBlaster หลายเดือนก่อน

    Because Lort knows your followers are going to try and dissect anything you say as much as possible, question it.. over and over… yet would still bow down to your knees lmao

  • @billycoleman8731
    @billycoleman8731 หลายเดือนก่อน

    1911/2011 is not a beginners pistol.

  • @Flashhideronly
    @Flashhideronly หลายเดือนก่อน

    You guys over think all this. And why are you so interested in “who” it is for. Well it’s for any one that wants one. It can used as a competitive gun or a duty gun. Just stop overthinking this and being silly

  • @practicepractice5719
    @practicepractice5719 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This guy didn’t get the questions…..

  • @Pappy7064
    @Pappy7064 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Something tells me Ben thrives on abuse

  • @Pappy7064
    @Pappy7064 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oil? You don't need no stinkin oil. Just spit on it.

  • @elijahanderson6736
    @elijahanderson6736 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Simple rule. Better to have a wet and dirty gun over a dry clean one. This applies to the AR-15 and 1911 a lot

  • @rurouniad
    @rurouniad หลายเดือนก่อน

    Remoil boyz A$$emble!

  • @rustyjames2202
    @rustyjames2202 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Grand Wizard? Like the Klan? Somebody fill me in here.

  • @coolgr3y997
    @coolgr3y997 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ben! You mention in another video that when you are dry firing you should be pulling the trigger intentionally very hard so that the red dot is moving low and left, why is this?

  • @the1andonlySherlock
    @the1andonlySherlock หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Staccatos are for people who think spending 4k on a pistol will make them a better shooter than spending 4k on ammo.

  • @bhief473
    @bhief473 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    They’re not for the left handed , poor or not 😒

    • @SectionChief
      @SectionChief หลายเดือนก่อน

      My 2011's (Staccato) and 2011 pattern pistols with ambi-safeties, are just as or more left-handed friendly than my Gen 3 Glocks or any non-customized 1911 or most guns before 2010 where mag release and safety location were non-negotiable.

    • @paddypibblet846
      @paddypibblet846 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's because they're made for human beings

  • @DarkArtsDeepDive
    @DarkArtsDeepDive หลายเดือนก่อน

    A gay one

  • @leftyo9589
    @leftyo9589 หลายเดือนก่อน

    dang troll. "the abuse that ive been subjected to". no you havent. you got what you brought on yourself. nice try!! you got a good amount of bad advice, but you way blew a part that has worn out into something way bigger than it is. its all good, but you sure try really hard to get mileage out of a worn out part.

  • @itsjustme77
    @itsjustme77 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    First Siggas, and now GrandWizard. You turning racist, Ben? Or have you always been?

    • @moostangvert
      @moostangvert หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm outraged that you're outraged.

  • @johnsexton128
    @johnsexton128 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The staccato bros are to much i sold the 3 i had because everyone has them now and they just don't carry the prestige they once had and those same bros are all experts i hate the gunn community its almost as bad as politics

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    @brianhurst2740 หลายเดือนก่อน

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      @overbuiltlimited หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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      @HaydenLane9mm หลายเดือนก่อน +2

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      @brianhurst2740 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @Backwoods0G
    @Backwoods0G หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Was I the only one who thought he was gonna say “for whites only” ?

  • @Frntrgrpblake
    @Frntrgrpblake หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have times on some assessments and drills and splits I set with my Glock build that I still haven’t beat with my 2011s.
    Nice guns are nice, but they don’t make you better. @jacrispy