I have a 2008 E60, and I’ve always liked the looks of that car. Expensive to maintain. I just replaced the stock CCC screen with an aftermarket one that has Bluetooth/Apple CarPlay (wired and unwired), along with a backup camera. It’s a nice, non-destructive upgrade for the car, and was < $400 US
I have a 07 pre LCI M sport 550i with Xenon lights, winter pack, easy comfort access aka keyless entry/start, with a 6-sped manual in N62B4801. Oh and Bluetooth calls from factory that work amazing, and Aux with no need to upgrade the head unit. But I back up cam is a must.
I think LCI is definitely worth the money, i have a 2007 525i LCI M-Sport with the N53 engine and i absolutely love it. LCI has better interior, better transmission and much prettier headlights and taillights.
My 2007 520d seems to be a mixture of both. Normal headlights with led tail lights, door card arm rest window controls with ccc idrive. Lci front bumper with pre lci rear bumper.
N52 is also used in LCI. Both N53 and N52 are build from aluminum and magnesium - NO difference here. The only 2 differences are - N53 have direct fuel injection and the Valvteronic is not present. N53 was not successful an engine - you can judge by that N52 was still used in some F10 models.
Mine is a 2007 E61 530i msport and seems to be of mix. Its a Japanese import to NZ and has the LCI lights, gear shift lever, interior buttons but the N52 engine but later version with different CCV system. My warranty has expired after 3 years but decided to keep the car as just love it. I've invested money into preventative maintenance which I think a good idea if you want to steer clear of problems that will occur.
I think preLCI is the one to buy because: - it has the original E60 design un-altered. The LCI is already looking up to be more F10-like (if that is possible - very good joke). For instance: 1) The inner front door handle - what a cheap look on that LCI. 2) the rear bumper on preLCI has no extra reflexion lights on it - looks total bad-ass - THAT is how this design should be all muscle - it is more clasic from a mechanic's point - the innovations brought by LCI are irelevant from a 2024 point: night vision ?! Better display resolution? The only goog imrovement is the gearbox knob and the drive by wire thing. - LCI engines are usually sh..ty: 2.0d 177hp distribution problems, 530i N53 is full of problems..as well as 525i same engine..4.8i is also problematic.
I have e60 LCI 530xd and I absolute love it. I wanted my first BMW to be car that I can repair by myself. I've had Toytotas, Opels etc. before, but BMW feels that you are really driving a car. Still old BMW screams lot of maintaining, so if your wallet is not so big and you dont know nothing about cars, then it is better to pick car like Toyota. :)
from personal experience i can tell you right away that e60 is very problematic and i am not even talking about engine here, i am mostly talking about regular shit that you would expect german cars don't have....This car requires deep pockets. I love mine and i will probably keep it for next 2-3 years but the cost that comes with it is really painful.. Someone who had this car probably knows what i am talking about.
@Video Production Company Oh, I feel you. I've had my 535i xdrive e60 for quite a few years now so I can say that routine maintenance is costly. But, so many upgraded parts exist that once something breaks, find its upgraded equivalent for the same money as stock and build a better version. Currently, my shocks are going to need replacement soon! I'll be replacing them with Bagged suspension.
@@DjordjeSrpski that's your fault for buying a deisel everyone knows if you don't maintenance the car right or feed the car dirty fuel expect the dpf to be blocked in a month 😂 that's any deisel look at the ford Mondeo they have dpf problem weekly because the owner doesn't do regular oil changes and uses the cheapest fuel they can find A petrol e60 will do over 430,000kms with regular maintenance there plenty of videos here in Australia I've seen e60's with 530,000kms same engine and trans 😂
@@kaneclark7171 it's not my problem that i bought a diesel, it was the only choice in my country. Petrols are very hard to find plus if you do import one from outside then you are doomed with it forever since nobody will ever buy it. Besides, my car is maintanced pretty good, dpf is off and turbo died on me, but other then that engine is pretty good. THe real problem is shit around it, mostly electronics and sensors. Themostats and Glow plug relays die every year, i use only BERU. M57 is one of the best diesels but stuff around it is not satisfying BMW trademark.
Yes it is an old car - and anyone who says they "like" the looks of the car - could also probably say that they like how the design of ASPHALT (not the game... the road) looks - or that they like the design of a telephone pole, a garden shed - or their mum's buttocks. IT IS A BAD DESIGN - from every angle - Bangle is now designing toasters and fridges for Samsung - he should never have "ventured" into car design - and even BMW recognized that, by designing one of the most beautiful 5 series after that - the F10/F11 which I bought just a couple of weeks ago (2012 F11 530d xDrive). I recently parked my car next to an E61 at a shopping mall - and took pictures of both of them - and JESUS does the E61 look bad. The Hoffmeister's kink is all wrong - and the nostril grilles are all wrong (looks like BMW was ridiculing/raping its own gene pool - but that's nothing new for BMW nowadays, look at the monster XM). The rear trunk lid has the wrong angle (too vertical/steep) which makes the car look like some sort of raped Passat - which is understandable, because they wanted more cargo space litres - but guess what, the F11 still has more (as far as I know) - and even if it doesn't - I would gladly give 10 litres of cargo space - and in exchange get rid of that ugly ass (I'm transporting a freezer box once in a lifetime anyway - and for that I have the roof rails). The sides of the car (E61) are ugly AF - they look like some shapeless blobs with no form - from the sides, that could be any KIA or Toyota (sorry, Korea and Japan) - whereas the F10/F11 have the beautiful character line on the sides which starts with the headlights and continues through the door handles to the taillights - which actually suits BMW much better, complementing the overall much sleeker, sportier look. E60/E61 will forever be remembered as some of the ugliest 5series (don't worry, current owners - that title can still be awarded to new 5series any time - seeing how BMW's design has been constantly deteriorating for abt. 5 years now) - whereas the E28 and the mighty E39 (to some extent - also the E34 and my baby - the F11) - will always be remembered as some of the most beautiful and best-designed ones. The same story goes for interior - which in an E60 is simply BAAAAD. Sorry for the cold hard truth - and we know you all love your bimmers - (and there is one good aspect for the E60/E61 - they were still made with the manual boxes AND the largest engines AND xDrive - which do not exist on F10/F11) - but be honest about the design. It's bad. Thanks for the video - and best of luck from Latvia.
Omg, so bad.... you dont have enought input info to compare pre and lci, dude....when you do something do it to the end.. you know nothing about that car.
When the E60 was launched a lot of people hated the design. For me I love the design. They learned from the e65 and made the 5 series look better.
I have a 2008 E60, and I’ve always liked the looks of that car. Expensive to maintain. I just replaced the stock CCC screen with an aftermarket one that has Bluetooth/Apple CarPlay (wired and unwired), along with a backup camera. It’s a nice, non-destructive upgrade for the car, and was < $400 US
i'm thinking about doing this brother glad to hear that it's affordable
I had a pre facelift 2004 530d and that had adaptive xenon headlights so that means you actually can have adaptive xenons before lci
I was not planning on buying an LCI e60, but somehow I am now convinced
I think e61 would suit your needs better 😀
I have pre LCI 545i with xenon headlights, these were an extra option. So Pre lci had xenon headlights as well.
Mine is same also and I have m sport and bumper are same in lci as pre lci only thing different is rear lights and from indicators
Yeah, my pre LCI 520i also has the optional xenon headlights
i have lci 545i with msport package
@@Benjamin-ko1fg my 520i is from 2003 (november) with optional xenon headlights.
I have a 07 pre LCI M sport 550i with Xenon lights, winter pack, easy comfort access aka keyless entry/start, with a 6-sped manual in N62B4801. Oh and Bluetooth calls from factory that work amazing, and Aux with no need to upgrade the head unit. But I back up cam is a must.
I'm satisfied. You couldn't have explained it better than this.
Thanks.
I think LCI is definitely worth the money, i have a 2007 525i LCI M-Sport with the N53 engine and i absolutely love it. LCI has better interior, better transmission and much prettier headlights and taillights.
Those headlights are awesome🤩
Lmao
Chain tension lci
@@zoebalbaert2136 yes, on the 520d, not the others.
Only the us or Canadian versions got the 3L with 525i lci models most 525i lci everywhere else is still a 2.5
My 2007 520d seems to be a mixture of both. Normal headlights with led tail lights, door card arm rest window controls with ccc idrive. Lci front bumper with pre lci rear bumper.
LCI E60 is definitely worth it in 2021 N52/N53 is super reliable, I am currently building one from your typical daily into a show car.
Good luck with your project😜
@@RegisGarage Appreciate it 🙏
N52 is also used in LCI. Both N53 and N52 are build from aluminum and magnesium - NO difference here. The only 2 differences are - N53 have direct fuel injection and the Valvteronic is not present. N53 was not successful an engine - you can judge by that N52 was still used in some F10 models.
I was pretty set on getting and LCI already but now I am definitely on the hunt. Great vid. Thank you
Mine is a 2007 E61 530i msport and seems to be of mix. Its a Japanese import to NZ and has the LCI lights, gear shift lever, interior buttons but the N52 engine but later version with different CCV system. My warranty has expired after 3 years but decided to keep the car as just love it. I've invested money into preventative maintenance which I think a good idea if you want to steer clear of problems that will occur.
Are you in Auckland? We’re having a BMW meet around the area this 30th
@@greyhansenndelara9082 no chch.
Mine is a pre-LCI, because the only thing I was looking for was a manual, and my 2006 has it.
Good and informative video 7 minutes well spent :)
Even if these bmw's are quite old already but they are still too new for my liking 😁😁
Audi 200 is much better. There is no question about it😃
Anything with a V8 and 6 speed manual is good
I think preLCI is the one to buy because:
- it has the original E60 design un-altered. The LCI is already looking up to be more F10-like (if that is possible - very good joke). For instance: 1) The inner front door handle - what a cheap look on that LCI. 2) the rear bumper on preLCI has no extra reflexion lights on it - looks total bad-ass - THAT is how this design should be all muscle
- it is more clasic from a mechanic's point
- the innovations brought by LCI are irelevant from a 2024 point: night vision ?! Better display resolution? The only goog imrovement is the gearbox knob and the drive by wire thing.
- LCI engines are usually sh..ty: 2.0d 177hp distribution problems, 530i N53 is full of problems..as well as 525i same engine..4.8i is also problematic.
I have pre-lci with adaptive xenon headlights. It was a question of package, not facelift.
Thank you man, it is a great review.
Thanks🙂🙂
This was helpful thanks saved me a lot of time
Great information sir 🔥🔥
i have a pre lci but i am gonna update the interior like the doorpanels because they look cleaner
I have e60 LCI 530xd and I absolute love it. I wanted my first BMW to be car that I can repair by myself. I've had Toytotas, Opels etc. before, but BMW feels that you are really driving a car. Still old BMW screams lot of maintaining, so if your wallet is not so big and you dont know nothing about cars, then it is better to pick car like Toyota. :)
E60 GANG!!
2005. Diesel 6gang manual 333k km and it’s run and looks great! One of the best bmw i think! m57 for life 🫡
LCI vs LCE
But in 2006 e60 got small upgrades like start stop button where earlier models had regular key
Thanx, very interesting mate 👍
I can tell that the PRE LCI model also have the reflectors on the rear bumper
I have 04 6spd 525i with m54b25
city fuel consumption?
Same
@@DjordjeSrpski let's say around 10 l
My BMW e60 M57 Pre LCI from have xenon lights by fabric
just picked up a flawless 2010 528i with 121k for only 4k owned by an 80 year old
Congratulations
@@Dregolala 9 months later you can get them for 2k lol
And now we want F10 pre vs Lci
if i have bmw stock with pre-lci will it fit updated lci?
Hello can you tell me which one is longer?
This video at 1.25x spees 😉
from personal experience i can tell you right away that e60 is very problematic and i am not even talking about engine here, i am mostly talking about regular shit that you would expect german cars don't have....This car requires deep pockets. I love mine and i will probably keep it for next 2-3 years but the cost that comes with it is really painful.. Someone who had this car probably knows what i am talking about.
@Video Production Company
Oh, I feel you. I've had my 535i xdrive e60 for quite a few years now so I can say that routine maintenance is costly. But, so many upgraded parts exist that once something breaks, find its upgraded equivalent for the same money as stock and build a better version.
Currently, my shocks are going to need replacement soon! I'll be replacing them with Bagged suspension.
@@AgSherr well lucky you with petrol.. i took 525d so my problems with dpf, turbo fails, actuator etc are horrible -.-
@@DjordjeSrpski Lol, oh man! BUT!!! They make better, faster than stock turbos for less money!
@@DjordjeSrpski that's your fault for buying a deisel everyone knows if you don't maintenance the car right or feed the car dirty fuel expect the dpf to be blocked in a month 😂 that's any deisel look at the ford Mondeo they have dpf problem weekly because the owner doesn't do regular oil changes and uses the cheapest fuel they can find
A petrol e60 will do over 430,000kms with regular maintenance there plenty of videos here in Australia I've seen e60's with 530,000kms same engine and trans 😂
@@kaneclark7171 it's not my problem that i bought a diesel, it was the only choice in my country. Petrols are very hard to find plus if you do import one from outside then you are doomed with it forever since nobody will ever buy it. Besides, my car is maintanced pretty good, dpf is off and turbo died on me, but other then that engine is pretty good. THe real problem is shit around it, mostly electronics and sensors. Themostats and Glow plug relays die every year, i use only BERU. M57 is one of the best diesels but stuff around it is not satisfying BMW trademark.
Visio racer???????
Net nežinojau kad turi kitą kanala😅
Nelabai jis gyvas toks😃
@@RegisGarage Tai blogai
My 2009 535 has the outdated looking CCC display 👎
Only the 2010 MY has the CIC idrive
Lci is better car
Ну Эл Си Ай же)
minus pt ca folosesti altceva decat limba materna!
Yes it is an old car - and anyone who says they "like" the looks of the car - could also probably say that they like how the design of ASPHALT (not the game... the road) looks - or that they like the design of a telephone pole, a garden shed - or their mum's buttocks. IT IS A BAD DESIGN - from every angle - Bangle is now designing toasters and fridges for Samsung - he should never have "ventured" into car design - and even BMW recognized that, by designing one of the most beautiful 5 series after that - the F10/F11 which I bought just a couple of weeks ago (2012 F11 530d xDrive). I recently parked my car next to an E61 at a shopping mall - and took pictures of both of them - and JESUS does the E61 look bad. The Hoffmeister's kink is all wrong - and the nostril grilles are all wrong (looks like BMW was ridiculing/raping its own gene pool - but that's nothing new for BMW nowadays, look at the monster XM). The rear trunk lid has the wrong angle (too vertical/steep) which makes the car look like some sort of raped Passat - which is understandable, because they wanted more cargo space litres - but guess what, the F11 still has more (as far as I know) - and even if it doesn't - I would gladly give 10 litres of cargo space - and in exchange get rid of that ugly ass (I'm transporting a freezer box once in a lifetime anyway - and for that I have the roof rails). The sides of the car (E61) are ugly AF - they look like some shapeless blobs with no form - from the sides, that could be any KIA or Toyota (sorry, Korea and Japan) - whereas the F10/F11 have the beautiful character line on the sides which starts with the headlights and continues through the door handles to the taillights - which actually suits BMW much better, complementing the overall much sleeker, sportier look. E60/E61 will forever be remembered as some of the ugliest 5series (don't worry, current owners - that title can still be awarded to new 5series any time - seeing how BMW's design has been constantly deteriorating for abt. 5 years now) - whereas the E28 and the mighty E39 (to some extent - also the E34 and my baby - the F11) - will always be remembered as some of the most beautiful and best-designed ones. The same story goes for interior - which in an E60 is simply BAAAAD. Sorry for the cold hard truth - and we know you all love your bimmers - (and there is one good aspect for the E60/E61 - they were still made with the manual boxes AND the largest engines AND xDrive - which do not exist on F10/F11) - but be honest about the design. It's bad. Thanks for the video - and best of luck from Latvia.
Sveiki! How's driving in Latvia?
Your personal opinion Bro, not that of the BMW community!!!😊
2012 f11 is an ugly one, sorry bro
xDrive sucks :/
Omg, so bad.... you dont have enought input info to compare pre and lci, dude....when you do something do it to the end.. you know nothing about that car.
go back to doing your "dron promo"