@@coltonstewart8698tf are on about? Iirc, the very first thing that Aang said in the Netflix trailer is that he doesn’t want the responsibility of being the Avatar
It’s even worse then that, the whole reason aang was frozen in ice for 100 years is because he was immature and ran away from the responsibility of being the avatar.
Just stop watching the live action series and watch the animated one. You know, the one that's already finished? The one that told its story perfectly the first time? The one that isn't the product of a corporation monetizing your nostalgia? Yeah, that one.
Making toph blind would be ableist and her struggle to become a master because she was a rich girl is sexist. So now is a 6'5 muscle bound dude with super eyes and screams to see better called the Boulder
And then they made suki your average thirsty anime girl. Like wtf the whole thing that made suki cool was that she was cool! She wasn’t creeping on dudes with their shirt off
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Did you watch any of the released trailers, and/or released clips? I doubt you did, because if you took the time to do so, and not just base your opinion on hearsay, you’d find that Aang isn’t too serious…but the normal goofy and powerful 112 year old kid he always was.
@@victorychukwuka6673 imagine coming to the assumption of what a whole show's gonna be based on a few clips in a trailer... Plus it was announced that Aang would be more serious.
Sokka was a teenage boy from a rural village with NO OTHER MEN because they were all busy fighting the fire nation. He was forced to "be the Man" of the village from a young age and combine that with the fact that he had no positive role models of masculinity around (because they were all busy fighting the aforementioned war) with the stress of being responsible for his village formed a teenage bs "I'm in charge, Men do this, Women do that" mentality. The only girl in the village close to his age was his little sister! Other that that, it's old people and toddlers. Once he got out into the real world he was humbled VERY quickly. And he took it well, our boy is not malicious, he's just a dofus. You can't have character's learn life lessons if they are perfect from day 1.
There’s also the fact the the water tribes are fairly rigid in their gender roles, it’s more obvious in the northern tribe because they actually have men around but it’s true for both north and south.
@@Crystalthewolf1000 Much Less true for the south as far as I can tell, after all, there were Male and Female warriors (before the fire nation killed everybody) and the bending practices were equal opportunity. Katara's Grandma fled the North's misogynistic bs to go to the South, I doubt she would have stayed if it was too similar. She could have just kept going to somewhere else if it was too bad. It's hard to get a real gauge because the population is just so depleted but all signs point towards it being much more respectful. There's also a big difference between choosing to inhabit traditional gender roles VS having anything else be FORBIDDEN, HOW DARE YOU! Which is probably another big difference between North and South.
"The character development is offensive and the personalities attract the wrong audience and it's DEFINITELY not the general tone of the show that actually does that, so we're just gonna remove it ☝️🤓"
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
It's the exact reason the Halo show is getting a second season. Everyone heard how bad it was and watched either out of morbid curiosity or hate. So Warner Bros thinks "Oh we made so much money on this! Make more!"
They also sacrificed both Sokka and Paku's characters at once. They made Sokka way too clean and made Paku way more an ass. Paku is stubborn, not dumb!
Sokka and clean? He's still sexist! It's just not easy to spot (which imho, makes his character arc even better). As for Pakku he's outright sexist and that's fine.
@@Cabolt44how is sokka still sexist? In the original show, he makes sexist comments based on his his misguided views on the world and katara always argues back, often proving him wrong. In the netflix show, katara is extremely passive and kinda dumb, and sokka makes comments based on logic so katara can never argue back because sokka is objectively right. He is so not sexist that instead of him getting hubled by suki and a romantic relationship forming as a result of him growing up, he is perfect and she falls for him instantly. In fact, the netflix show makes every single female character much more passive than the original, and therefore deprives them of many moments their original counterparts had to show their personality and strength of character
@@P-one1nah, he literally watch the show. Aang never been serious when he was announced as the next Avatar, he's just a kid that wanted to have fun, that's why become avatar becomes a burden to him and he decided to run away and froze for almost 100 years. If they decide Aang to be more serious then why did he needs to run away 100 years ago?
This is what happens when you don’t protect your work. Oda was very strict with one piece netflix and wouldn’t even agree with netflix unless he felt the director was a fan or atleast understood the material and even demanded no romance. I think the avatar creators just saw money and they thought it would be great but failed to realize if you give Netflix full control they will ruin any franchise
Netflix: “We don’t want the characters to have too much emotion, so we can have better fight scenes.” ATLA Fans: The fight scenes in question: 5-6 guys floating a small rock to some dude slowly
The worst part is that they made Avatar Roku: one of the most serious characters who acts as a mentor figure to Aang (which makes sense because he proceeded Aang as Avatar), and turned him into a jokey character who gives Aang an episode's macguffin.
Time to put their "message" and twists on some successful IP. I swear to god its actually impressive how netflix consistently finds these type of people that actively wants to change something that already works
@@epicgodminecraft73Yeah, Halo Season 1 really seems like a sci-fi show that wanted to do its own thing but also wanted to be attached to a famous IP. Have their cake and eat it too sort of situation. Hopefully with Halo Season 2 actually focusing on a plot point important to the original story (Reach) they might make something good, idk.
Almost every single studio/streaming service that makes live-action adaptations needs to follow the mentality of “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.” Seriously, it works.
The issue is that they see it as broken based on our modern climate. Things like sexism being a lot more problematic so that’s “broken” Aang being an actual child with important responsibilities forced on him could be seen as problematic, if he displayed more childlike behavior. So most likely they are going to try to make him less childlike to deflect away from it.
Or just needs to not make live action versions of stories that were told perfectly through animation and just think of something else to make if they want to make something live action
"We wanted a serious tone" like having a main character find out his people were slaughtered, or a character get permanently scarred and banished by their father, or the characters whose mother was murdered in cold blood, or multiple episodes about the destruction caused by the war.
Sokka is SUPPOSED to be a sexist, toxic masculine, ignorant asshole. That's the whole point. He gets humbled, learns lessons taught by Suki, Aang, Yue's father, Piandao, etc. He's supposed to be a deeply flawed character who later grows and becomes his own man, a strong and capable fighter, and leader.
Nahhh... No. No. No. Anything else I can accept. They can make Katara a lesbian feminist if that's what they want. But don't ruin Iroh. He is the best character in the show
"About characters with realistic flaws and their development during the story... Who am I kidding, we don't like characters with realistic flaws and character development so we'll just take away these things because characters without flaws and zero character development are what people want" You could describe it like this
The heroes journey is the most reductive crap ever. Also the guy who wrote it was kind of a piece of shit. The ideas in the heroes story are completely dated. To the point where the only reason it is still used is because people want to deconstruct it or even worse subvert it at the very end. Or midpoint. So many people are writing scripts based off of this because of things circling around Disney. There was a paper circling around Disney basically telling you to write that way and telling you how to twist the Heroes journey but because everyone’s doing it it is too noticeable. And it is not novel certainly not as novel as when Star Wars did it.
Aang’s goofing off was also an important part of the story because he thought he had plenty of time. It wasn’t until Roku told him the fire lord was gonna use Sozin’s comet to finish the war and potentially kill thousands that he started to take things seriously. It was a shift in the entire tone of the show.
they’re just taking all the substance out of it to make it “mature” like the animated show didn’t touch subjects like genocide racism and government corruption
@@julie-18bro I have a feeling that Netflix at this point wants to promote racism, sexism and government corruption from how much it’s trying to hide those things from existing thus making it more common since it won’t be corrected
They're pulling an Ember Island Production. Part of me respects that, just a lil bit 🤏 I haven't seen it but hearing people talk about the live action I can't help but picture that one episode in ATLA season 3 where they watch the reenactment of the show. This is pretty much just that ig haha
I disagree. I think there is plenty of space to make AtlA more serious while maintaining the core of the Story and character (development). Just the fact alone that the war takes actual lives was very underplayed in the original, and would be a great if not _essential_ point to (re)visit in this live action. But yes, taking away the childlike behaviour of characters who are meant to be actual children is not a very good Plan for this IP.
@@Udontknowmi Bruh, have you not witnessed the absolute onslaught of absolutely horrid "New takes on old material?" Its pretty fair to assume its a long shot this is going to be any good.
Also, let's make every older character (especially Bumi and the former Avatars) unlikeable and tell Aang that he doesn't need friends. We want him to realize that these people are wrong - and you know what, let's teach him this lesson like 5 times!
The main point or at least the one I see most in the show is it’s a kid show but with a serious tone that younger audiences can still understand and still enjoy I mean the Gyatsos death scene is just a small glimpse I mean Zuko vs Azula, Aang vs Ozai, the invasion of the fire nation, these are all amazing and still have a serious tone and can still be watched by kids
There are articles saying the original ones left bc THEY wanted to change more. Im not exactly excited for this, but im gonna reserve judgement til i watch the first few episodes
@@serenteaudios1737 well the main reason they actually left is because with the success of paramount, I believe they are starting their own studio for a bunch of different spin-off series and maybe even a new installment. And there is a significant difference between the creators wanting to make some changes within their creation. That's still a line with the characters and the core concept and a studio. Just making blanket changes disregarding the characters and core concepts
Idk about Michael but I know Bryan is a super liberal. I didn’t have high hopes from the beginning for this because if anything I thought he would encourage the Netflixification of the series.
There are only two correct ways to make adaptations. Either you take the exact same characters and make the exact same story. Or you take the general idea of the original, and make a new story with new characters.
The live action series was decent, but making it more "serious" was a huge miss. The awesome special effects really helped though. That 20 million per episode had to go somewhere, and it definitely wasn't in the story or acting!
You think they would've learned after the failed attempt at a movie... Hard to make ATLA look realistic in a live action, earth benders would be turning people into ground beef if they had a boulder hurled at them so most of the physics is going to be looking goofy unless they're stuck hurdling pebbles, same with firebending. Waterbending and airbending might look okay without being too overpowered but if you tried applying actual physics to earthbending it'd be broken af...
@@DrakeOolathe bending, special effects and fights are great. The problem people have with it is the storytelling and dialogue. It’s terrible and most acting is too except a few main characters
M knight thought he was going to “fix” it too… and we all know how that went… why are we trying so hard to revive a bow tied ending of a show like ATLA anyways? I get it’d be cool to see it in live action with 95% green screen and cgi… instead of enjoying the time and effort and YEARS that went into animating, writing, scripting, choreographing, editing, etc that went into the original show… I’m sure this will likely be a 2/5 show at worst but a 3/5 at best
(1) avatar, although enjoyable, is far from perfect. (2) they're not trying to fix anything. They are simply adapting the story to live action with 1 hour episodes, which means maturing it a little bit. You can't have 20 minute standalone montages per episodem that wouldn't make sense.
@@Udontknowmiwell if "that" is their reason for trying to change certain aspects of the show, they should've told the audience. Not riding on this fake wokeness just to attract certain audience. Their very reason of changing aspects of the show is a disrespect to the original.
@@Udontknowmi Your point would be good if the original show didn't blend serious dialogue with breaks of levity masterfully. Longer episodes don't mean a better series, it just means the show is adapting more content into single episodes for an overall lesser number of episodes. Humor and serious dialogue are not mutually exclusive, and changing a story that is born of both concepts to only be one, diminishes the quality of that story.
Like they 'fixed' the Witcher. Oml. They hire complete hacks that have no respect or understanding of what made the original IPs work. What's that? "if they don't change anything then what's the point of a remake"? EXACTLY! These live action 'reimaginings' are pointless af selling nostalgia to depressed millenials. As a depressed millenial this makes me sad.
Fr tho, this show had so much potential and already has a fan base thanks to the original series. We all had high hopes for this show to be amazing, but most people will agree if could be so much better. At least it’s better than the last adaptation.
@@LS-jv9hp i just remember that the VA of azula said when asked "if azula went with zuko in a life changing adventure what that would be" and she said "i would get pregnant"
@@loft777oh my law!😂 Azula chasing Zuko around as a crazy Yandere would certainly be a more interesting change than what Netflix is doing. I mean if they had to change it at all.
the zoomers and alphas need the heroes of the story to be perfect day one, or they start complaining because they think if the hero is flawed then the show is saying that "this is ok" and its offensive, thats why the character development today its mostly done on villains
Not to mention the fact that the original Avatar: The Last Airbender was ALREADY MATURE, like, you don't have to have all of your characters act like mature and healthy adults in order to have a mature show. The people making this Netflix show DESPERATELY need to go back and watch the original one, and I don't just mean watch it and move on, I mean watch it, dissect it, and understand what made it so great to begin with, in fact, throw Arcane: League Of Legends in there as well, so that they can understand that humans and beings in general don't and CAN'T be perfect and make perfect decisions 12/7, because THAT'S what makes a mature and realistic show, not this shit.
The entertainment industry should learn that having flaws is what makes characters relatable and that the characters overcoming said flaws is what makes them interesting
The problem is, people are confusing sexism, with Sokka just being a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check. We can have Sokka go through character development without reliving the 00s Girl Power era, yeah?
@@DWargs I mean it was intended as sexism in the form of enforced gender-norms, however he was also a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check. The message has always been good, however this was one of the few series which executed said message perfectly as well in my opinion. Avatar the Last Airbender created strong independent female characters, but in a fashion where they neither undermine men, nor were overexaggerated Well except maybe Toph being overexaggerated, however that was for a very specific purpose as it's a front she creates for herself to break away from her parent's control, not men, and even then she shows her more vulnerable side multiple times throughout the show, when she's shown to have failed or otherwise been in the wrong
Flaws, what are those? Those are only for the real main character. Side characters must always be perfect because why would you want to relate to a non-main character? 😂
@@matheussandbakk9959 I disagree with you. I feel like the way people have reacted to Sokka's arc have proven that it wasn't well handled. To dismiss this as "sexism" is radically oversimplifying and reductive, and does a disservice to the character and the arc he went through. Sokka complaining that he lost to a bunch of girls is only the surface level. There's a lot underneath there that a 23 minute episode meant for kids that couldn't adequately unpack and explore. His pride as a warrior, and the duty he felt as a protector of his sister and Aang and his village back home, his shame in not being strong enough to protect them and failing to realize they were getting ambushed. Not to mention, the culture shock of running into a society that is completely different from the one he's always known. I think moving away from the sexism angle isn't removing his flaws at all, but rather, it might be able to allow us to dig deeper into his character and his arc as a warrior in a way that the original show didn't adequately plan and map out. Also, I feel like applying modern Western terms to an isolated tribe fighting for survival at the edge of the world is a bit disingenuous and unfair, but maybe that's just me.
Its like sokka grew up In a small water tribe village and when he eventually went out in the world with his ideals he was immediately knocked on his butt
So Zuko hasn’t developed whatsoever? “Kill avatar” start of season to “respect avatar” by the end of it. You’re ignorant and just want to hate because others are doing it. You’re less original than the live action avatar show.
@@sarahlarock9885 if you think the avatar characters are the same as they were from start to finish with zero development then you didn’t watch the show. You’re just another annoying “fan” that hates everything because you’re a jerkoff that’s bored with life
@@donnyyario1726 Show don't tell is a lie invented by the movie industry. It is sometimes okay for character to verbalize emotions. With that said, I wholeheartedly agree, I knew I was missing something from this show :D
@@arnerademacker key word "sometimes." The only thing every character does is tell. The only thing that comes out of their mouths is exposition. Show don't tell is a good thing, and is severely lacking in the live action. A good example of balance between exposition and show not tell is ironically the original animation.
Also, Aang being adventurous throughout most of the show opens up the world to the audience. It also makes it feels like the world moves regardless of the Gangs presence in those locations; which they do.
Very well put. That was one of the best parts of the show. It feels like there's an entire world going on regardless of where the characters go, and they are experiencing it along with us. I couldn't put that feeling into words until I read your comment
On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
@@rocknroll1973they're taking a property that is well loved, and changing it _away_ from what people loved. Worse, they're doing so in a way that destroys character arcs, so it isn't even likely to offer good storytelling to people who aren't already familiar with the story they're butchering
You know it is obvious why people do this when they make a copy of a show, but change up a lot of things thinking why we would like it but why we wouldn't. Honestly instead of making a copy of a show of the story but change things up but it's basically the same thing but worse or maybe better, Why not Is focus on a previous avatar? What I heard there is Over eighty avatars , they could have done each a show for each a different idea of a story and Series or movie.
And she no longer has tremor-sense, but uses sound to see like Daredevil. "AAAAAAAAAAH. There, now I have gotten a good look at you." (That's from the hilariously awful play in the Ember Island Theater that was a fire nation understanding of their adventures in the last season of ATLA aka ep57)
The reason Katara found Aang in that ice berg is because she was angry at sokka for being sexist towards her. If sokka wasn’t sexist aang would still be frozen for another 1000 years and there wouldn’t be a last air bender series to begin with 😂
Can we just collectively gather all the money we can as a FUCKING SPECICIES AND BUY THE PROPERTIES THEMSELVES!!! THESE COMPANIES HAVE NO FUCKING RESPECT AT ALL
"we're going to give him a visions that's basically like something really bad is going to happen if you don't go to the Northern Water Tribe." Weird you felt you needed to invent a reason to go to the North when originally Aang is set to go so he and Katara can master water bending... So he can become a serious Avatar??? Like he was determined from the beginning he just wanted to make fun road trip stops on the way!
Omg so true like isn't mastering all elements just ad important or not even more like bruh 😭😭 and one thing thay resply bugged me was how qatara Just magically gets better at waterbending like literally in less than a day girly goes from I need a waterbending teacher to I am my own master and I magically became a pro at this 💀
@@rovic3arceno429 😂You really had there 🤣 Given the other things people were saying I thought there could be some truth there 🤣I do still have doubts about watching more of it though- having them show the Earth Kingdom spy get brutally murdered on screen in the first five minutes, plus dedicating a huge chunk of time to seeing all the Air Nomads get mercilessly slaughtered and burned to death did not exactly do it for me 😬(And they gave it a PG rating! 😵💫) Between that and all the other feedback, I'm not sure if I'm gonna really like it. I'm currently rewatching the original because I had to wash the bad taste of that first episode out of my mouth 🤣
@@kpbear13It 100% was needed. All the warriors of his tribe left, leaving him as the only guy in the tribe. So he learned he had to be the toughest and baddest of the village. Suki teaches him to not be sexist and to accept that others can protect themselves. Netflix can suck it.
@@davidtran9455mans was not the depressed he was just trying to teach aang the severeness of what is going on in the world which he also did in the cartoon 😭😭
@@sancholoaded2388 ...no he didn't? His lesson was to think outside of the box, and that no matter how much pressure he faces he should "always think like a mad genius". Literally the lesson verbatim, its the opposite to the new show.
@@sancholoaded2388ya know, I just binged watched it alone that’s not what happened. His lessons was for Aang to be creative and to think outside of the box like a mad genius. It had nothing to do with the seriousness of the world lol
@@UdontknowmiYou act like a payed shill. This is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time. 1: Beloved and well respected original IP releases with striking success. 2: Someone representing what is a debatably higher level of art takes said IP looking to spread its audience and smears it into the ground because they destroyed and removed everything that’s fundamental to the original story. It’s BS. Stop defending abhorrent trash.
Can we also tease the production value in in cinematography ? So many shorts are dead center on actors face, back and forth between conversations - or worse - just monologuing to no one (to the audience?) straight into the camera... like who are you talking to? These lovely sets were created and then they didn't want to show them in shots where characters were talking? We could turn this style camera shot into a drinking game and be drunk half way through the first episode.
@@nvapisces7011 He does actually. When he enters the Avatar state (yes it's Kyoshi, but they're the same person) and when he embodies the Ocean Spirit (as a Kaiju). I'd chock it down mainly to budget. Water VFX is pretty expensive.
@@nvapisces7011 They honestly should have made an adaptation of Legend of Korra. That's the more serious Avatar they could have used. ATLA Liv action feels stale
One of the biggest complaints about the live action movie was that aang was too serious. Sad to see Netflix commiting to the same mistake. Sure, he has his serious moments, but his initial goofy personality helps to create contrast and show his struggle to make difficult choices when he has to
@madridistasejati5358 almost the entire cast are fans of the animation even throw shade at the movie during interviews Watch their behind the scenes snippets and you'll know they're 100% not going for what the movie did
A big thing about Aang goofing off is that it is basically him running away from his responsabilities, but it always ends with the gang meeting people whose lives were affected by the fire nation in some way, regardless of where they are, this works to show how inescapable the fire nation's threat is to the world, which is a HUGE part of Aang's development into accepting his responsabilities as avatar
It's not just that either. Air nomads are literally the element of fun, as stated by Iroh. Aang quite literally brought joy to the world, not just because he's a kid, but because he's an air nomad. They're known for pulling pranks, living in harmony with nature, and having a good sense of humor. To make Aang more serious and less fun is to take away from the air nomad culture.
Exactly! Sokka's arc has deeper messages about positive and negative male influences and how war affects how children are raised, Sokka's inital sexism was really tied up with feeling he needed to play the role of protector while all the men in the Southern Water Tribe were away fighting...not to mention losing his mother and how that probably also made it easier for him to develop sexist opinions.
@@NovaaTheGreatShow hasn't even come out yet and people are already upset how is this possible? Also where is everyone getting this info im so out of the loop
Sokka was sexist in 2 episodes!!! TWO EPISODES!!! Sokka was never a misogynist. Hes from a culture where men were soldiers. Hakoda left him behind because he was too young to go to war. Kyoshi island had women warriors so Sokka arrogantly questions it. The only reason so many fans care about Sokka being sexist is because of the memes where Suki beats the misogyny out of him. In the cartoon hes sexist for 2 episodes. Sokka flaw is that hes an idiot!!! Thats it. Hes the comic relief. He was always a genius, he was always smart, he was always good with children considering hes training children in the pilot episode.
@@1hmgirlthank you for sharing this! Also all these posts are random news sights trying to get clicks by taking things out of context and deeming theories as facts. The new Netflix clip describes aang as a fun loving kid who has responsibilities he doesn’t want. THAT IS AANG! #waitbeforehate
I just rewatched Avatar as an adult. Trust me when I say they don’t need to make the story more ‘mature.’ Like all good children’s stories, it is more than sufficiently captivating for an adult audience.
I think they just needed to make it less naive. A 100 year war can be shown for the horror that it is in a live action. That doesn't mean they had to never have anything silly happen.
@@PainMonkey Had me tearing up multiple times, and I remembered some really important lessons that I'd lost sight of somewhere along the way. It really is exceptional.
It really wild how companies do this & are so clueless and full of themselves to do what the people actually want that they rather fuck up and screw up or cancel projects that could be huge success but they ruin it.
It's like all the writers forgot how important complexity and bad character traits are. Zuko isn't our favorite because he got a new hairstyle and is a brooding bad boy, he's our favorite because of how much we saw him grow and change to be more compassionate.
Same with Sokka and Aang. They started off as immature children and ended as kids matured beyond their years while still withholding some of that childish charm (look at how Sokka acted in the Ember Island Tales episode).
Don't worry, all the male characters will have plenty of Patriarchal flaws, they just won't grow at all as they are men and incapable of it. The women won't grow either, but that's because they are already perfect from birth. This is Netflix!
Yeah, and they totally removed one of Zuko's important turning points--attempting to save General Zhao (who'd just tried to murder him) from the ocean spirit! And had Iroh kill him instead! So so lame
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Aang not wanting to be the avatar is literally the reason the whole story started
Stop taking quotes out of context. You haven't even seen the show.
@@Udontknowmihave you ever watched the actual show?
@@Udontknowmi If they are saying that Sokka won't act sexist and Aang is serious about becoming the avatar, then there is no more context needed.
@@coltonstewart8698 That's not even what they actually said. LMAO.
@@coltonstewart8698tf are on about? Iirc, the very first thing that Aang said in the Netflix trailer is that he doesn’t want the responsibility of being the Avatar
It’s even worse then that, the whole reason aang was frozen in ice for 100 years is because he was immature and ran away from the responsibility of being the avatar.
Holy shit you’re right 😂
they literally missed the entire main plot point from the show.
and the irony is that escaping also saved his life
That’s Probably gonna be rewrote so that he left for “Training”!
But he never wanted to be the avatar, and that’s not really immature for his age. It’s more understandable.
“we won’t have any cabbages harmed in the live action”
😂😂😂
Well... I'm glad they didn't do that cause i wouldn't have my most popular video rn 😂
They've gone to far with that one...
That’s a good change
Now this would be going too far
Just stop watching the live action series and watch the animated one.
You know, the one that's already finished? The one that told its story perfectly the first time? The one that isn't the product of a corporation monetizing your nostalgia?
Yeah, that one.
This right here I’m with you I’ve given up on live adaptations
most people who watch netflix series have already watched original
"we won't make toph blind this time. She has an eagle vision now"
Making toph blind would be ableist and her struggle to become a master because she was a rich girl is sexist. So now is a 6'5 muscle bound dude with super eyes and screams to see better called the Boulder
Nah, she's still blind, but won't shut up about it.
so basically Toph’s deaf 🤨🤨 they got eagle vision
@@kou7191 "Hello. Im blind nice to meet you!"
"And your Name?"
"Sorry, didn't hear you cause... you know... im blind"
Plus she will be a real sweet hart not being a good character here no way.
Not having Sokka be humbled by the Kiyoshi warriors is criminally tone-deaf.
cause then they just...start to like each other? This also takes away the stuff he learns from her
Imagine if katara won vs master paku just because she is a woman
@@adriankorozan8334don’t speak this into existence
@@adriankorozan8334 shhhhhh you'll give them ideas
And then they made suki your average thirsty anime girl. Like wtf the whole thing that made suki cool was that she was cool! She wasn’t creeping on dudes with their shirt off
Live action avatar Kiyoshi be like: peace is always an option
clearly you didn´t watch the neflix show if thats what you got from kyoshi
@@mm2003. Its a meme batman, a meme.
@@KnucklesGameplays what
@@KnucklesGameplaysi love you
@@lynnk58 awwwn, thanks, love you too my friend.
“We want to make it like game of thrones to attract more mature audiences”
*EXCUSE ME??*
This means they're going to kill off every beloved character in the first couple of seasons
Maturing through life journey is like the most "mature" element you can give to fictional story
Katara and sokka following the Lannister siblings 😱
@@QuinnJustice-wh3yoand add 272626276252557 sex scenes
If Aang was serious from the beginning, bro would not have become frozen for a century
He wasn't ready to fight fire benders anyway, Aang would just die...
@@alexzero3736 bro point still stands ded yea frozen nah
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth
Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world
Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Did you watch any of the released trailers, and/or released clips?
I doubt you did, because if you took the time to do so, and not just base your opinion on hearsay, you’d find that Aang isn’t too serious…but the normal goofy and powerful 112 year old kid he always was.
@@victorychukwuka6673 imagine coming to the assumption of what a whole show's gonna be based on a few clips in a trailer...
Plus it was announced that Aang would be more serious.
Sokka was a teenage boy from a rural village with NO OTHER MEN because they were all busy fighting the fire nation. He was forced to "be the Man" of the village from a young age and combine that with the fact that he had no positive role models of masculinity around (because they were all busy fighting the aforementioned war) with the stress of being responsible for his village formed a teenage bs "I'm in charge, Men do this, Women do that" mentality. The only girl in the village close to his age was his little sister! Other that that, it's old people and toddlers. Once he got out into the real world he was humbled VERY quickly. And he took it well, our boy is not malicious, he's just a dofus. You can't have character's learn life lessons if they are perfect from day 1.
Unless the character in question is female...
There’s also the fact the the water tribes are fairly rigid in their gender roles, it’s more obvious in the northern tribe because they actually have men around but it’s true for both north and south.
@@Crystalthewolf1000 Much Less true for the south as far as I can tell, after all, there were Male and Female warriors (before the fire nation killed everybody) and the bending practices were equal opportunity. Katara's Grandma fled the North's misogynistic bs to go to the South, I doubt she would have stayed if it was too similar. She could have just kept going to somewhere else if it was too bad. It's hard to get a real gauge because the population is just so depleted but all signs point towards it being much more respectful. There's also a big difference between choosing to inhabit traditional gender roles VS having anything else be FORBIDDEN, HOW DARE YOU! Which is probably another big difference between North and South.
Double standards.
@@TedEhioghae Your critique is too vague.
Aang in the show: "I never wanted to be the avatar."
Aang in the Netflix remake: "Man, I heckin' love being the avatar."
just eeww
Aang not bending a single water for the entire s1 is crime
“This character development is too hard, we’re just going to skip to the end”
Uhhh, what's difficult on ctrl + c; ctrl + v? THE ENTIRE STORY IS RIGHT THERE!!!!
"The character development is offensive and the personalities attract the wrong audience and it's DEFINITELY not the general tone of the show that actually does that, so we're just gonna remove it ☝️🤓"
@@_afancyhat_ "Character development is too hard to understand, I'm just going to say it's offensive."
When you are so disconnected from reality you forget suka was just telling the truth
Men are better at fighting… tf is going on with the world
Where are all the women fighting in Ukraine ?
Even though all that development is WRITTEN OUT FOR THEM
Remember everyone. We speak with viewership. They dont see us hating it. They just see how many people watch. If you hate watch you encourage this
That why I will pirate it
@@judgecheese3594Yar Har!
@@judgecheese3594lmao
@@judgecheese3594😂😂
It's the exact reason the Halo show is getting a second season. Everyone heard how bad it was and watched either out of morbid curiosity or hate. So Warner Bros thinks "Oh we made so much money on this! Make more!"
the lack of penguin sledding really threw me off
They also sacrificed both Sokka and Paku's characters at once. They made Sokka way too clean and made Paku way more an ass. Paku is stubborn, not dumb!
Sokka and clean? He's still sexist! It's just not easy to spot (which imho, makes his character arc even better). As for Pakku he's outright sexist and that's fine.
@@Cabolt44how is sokka still sexist? In the original show, he makes sexist comments based on his his misguided views on the world and katara always argues back, often proving him wrong. In the netflix show, katara is extremely passive and kinda dumb, and sokka makes comments based on logic so katara can never argue back because sokka is objectively right. He is so not sexist that instead of him getting hubled by suki and a romantic relationship forming as a result of him growing up, he is perfect and she falls for him instantly. In fact, the netflix show makes every single female character much more passive than the original, and therefore deprives them of many moments their original counterparts had to show their personality and strength of character
@@Cabolt44that’s a bad take😂
@@docomega7862and kinda dumb 😂😂
if Aang wanted to focus on being the avatar then he wouldn't be 112 years old 💀
Oh, he would. The only difference is that he would actually look like one.
He’d have been long gone by then.
@@JohnA.-sp9vb Fire Nation: No one expects the fire nation conquest!
I don’t think you watched the show…
@@P-one1nah, he literally watch the show. Aang never been serious when he was announced as the next Avatar, he's just a kid that wanted to have fun, that's why become avatar becomes a burden to him and he decided to run away and froze for almost 100 years. If they decide Aang to be more serious then why did he needs to run away 100 years ago?
Netflix: “We brought back the cabbage guy voice actor…….. he now hates cabbages”
Honestly, I could see Cabbage Guy ending up hating cabbage. He just got so tired of losing them that he gave up.
"YEAH FUCK MY CABBAGE"
Ahahahahaha
"He now cheers when his cart is destroyed." -Netflix executive.
This is what happens when you don’t protect your work. Oda was very strict with one piece netflix and wouldn’t even agree with netflix unless he felt the director was a fan or atleast understood the material and even demanded no romance. I think the avatar creators just saw money and they thought it would be great but failed to realize if you give Netflix full control they will ruin any franchise
Netflix: “We don’t want the characters to have too much emotion, so we can have better fight scenes.”
ATLA Fans:
The fight scenes in question: 5-6 guys floating a small rock to some dude slowly
The worst part is that they made Avatar Roku: one of the most serious characters who acts as a mentor figure to Aang (which makes sense because he proceeded Aang as Avatar), and turned him into a jokey character who gives Aang an episode's macguffin.
This sounds like one of those:
"We have a story! Now we just need a famous IP to attach it to!"
Time to put their "message" and twists on some successful IP. I swear to god its actually impressive how netflix consistently finds these type of people that actively wants to change something that already works
Or as I like to call it "pulling a Velma"
Reminds me of Birdgirl.
It got cancelled in "2" seasons. It's really just one season split in half.
It's literally what the Halo show is going through and it is abhorrent. I fucking hate unoriginal Humanity.
@@epicgodminecraft73Yeah, Halo Season 1 really seems like a sci-fi show that wanted to do its own thing but also wanted to be attached to a famous IP. Have their cake and eat it too sort of situation. Hopefully with Halo Season 2 actually focusing on a plot point important to the original story (Reach) they might make something good, idk.
Netflix: ”We don’t want Sokka to be sexist! Sexism is bad!”
Also Netflix: *takes away all Katara’s character and personality*
Yes!! Exactly!! Same goes for Suki!!!
To me they all seem blander in the tv adaptation, not just her.
Fr
"Sexism is bad!”
Also Netflix:"Lets make Suki be horny af stalking shirtless Sokka"
So disappointed with what they did to all the characters
Not to mention you would think that wanting something similar to game of thrones would push them to give longer seasons, not rush the series
“In our remake, Jeong Jeong will teach Aang how to firebend“
and bumi will teach him earthbending!
Almost every single studio/streaming service that makes live-action adaptations needs to follow the mentality of “If it ain’t broken, don’t fix it.” Seriously, it works.
That's why I don't bother watching remakes
The issue is that they see it as broken based on our modern climate. Things like sexism being a lot more problematic so that’s “broken”
Aang being an actual child with important responsibilities forced on him could be seen as problematic, if he displayed more childlike behavior. So most likely they are going to try to make him less childlike to deflect away from it.
Or just needs to not make live action versions of stories that were told perfectly through animation and just think of something else to make if they want to make something live action
@@kimhyunwoo8983apparently nowadays people can't differentiate supporting sexist behavior and telling a story of a sexist
Funnily enough, this is the reason why the one piece live action is pretty much the best live action remake
"We wanted a serious tone" like having a main character find out his people were slaughtered, or a character get permanently scarred and banished by their father, or the characters whose mother was murdered in cold blood, or multiple episodes about the destruction caused by the war.
Damn, if only there were characters like that
Or the guy who slowly dies from internal bleeding, with one of the theories being that one of his closest friends mercy killed him.
@@Connor-ONeill after being brainwashed by the country he wanted to protect; just to add an extra layer of tragedy.
Or a character who was once a war general who then becomes a peace loving man because his son died on the battlefield
Avatar is seriously a war story descized as a kid show
Sokka is SUPPOSED to be a sexist, toxic masculine, ignorant asshole. That's the whole point. He gets humbled, learns lessons taught by Suki, Aang, Yue's father, Piandao, etc.
He's supposed to be a deeply flawed character who later grows and becomes his own man, a strong and capable fighter, and leader.
"focused on becoming the avatar"
Proceeds to have Aang not learn any element other than air
"We're also going to make Uncle Iroh an asshole"
that would be the end of Netflix. Imagine the backlash, the petitions, the cancelled accounts. They'd never recover from that.
Nahhh... No. No. No. Anything else I can accept. They can make Katara a lesbian feminist if that's what they want. But don't ruin Iroh. He is the best character in the show
them's fighting words
If they announce something like that I'm pulling up to Netflix HQ. I'm not even joking, I will do this in the name of this amazing show
@@rentsuruga8282it doesn't matter how good they try to make Iroh, the live action will never be as wise or as kindhearted as Mako's Iroh
Lately Hollywood is like "the Hero's Journey is really cool, but you know what's cooler? Starting it basically at the end" 🙄
"About characters with realistic flaws and their development during the story... Who am I kidding, we don't like characters with realistic flaws and character development so we'll just take away these things because characters without flaws and zero character development are what people want"
You could describe it like this
The heroes journey is the most reductive crap ever. Also the guy who wrote it was kind of a piece of shit. The ideas in the heroes story are completely dated. To the point where the only reason it is still used is because people want to deconstruct it or even worse subvert it at the very end. Or midpoint. So many people are writing scripts based off of this because of things circling around Disney. There was a paper circling around Disney basically telling you to write that way and telling you how to twist the Heroes journey but because everyone’s doing it it is too noticeable. And it is not novel certainly not as novel as when Star Wars did it.
@@smokedbeefandcheese4144dude hero journey are classic and the most well known story progression
yup if they want put the story after the end pls follow frieren story progression
I hate Hollywood executives
Aang’s goofing off was also an important part of the story because he thought he had plenty of time. It wasn’t until Roku told him the fire lord was gonna use Sozin’s comet to finish the war and potentially kill thousands that he started to take things seriously. It was a shift in the entire tone of the show.
it's funny how the "kids show" is by far more mature, deeper and more complex than the new version. They just erased everything with meaning
I heard they're going to be removing the 'there is no war in Ba Sing Se' bit because it was "gaslighty". MY GUY. THAT'S THE POINT.
they’re just taking all the substance out of it to make it “mature” like the animated show didn’t touch subjects like genocide racism and government corruption
@@julie-18bro I have a feeling that Netflix at this point wants to promote racism, sexism and government corruption from how much it’s trying to hide those things from existing thus making it more common since it won’t be corrected
Its cause its too close to real life. 😂😂😂
That was a joke tweet. It was a joke and Netflix never said that.
thats the funniest insider too!!
Making Aang overt serious might be the biggest character assassination I’ve seen in a while😂
Even as an adult, Aang still had his lightheartedness. He just had... a lot in his plate.
a literal twelve year old boy lmao
Isn't that the mistake they made with the other live action Avatar? Lol.
Tbh they've done the same with Percy Jackson in the recent live action 😭
@@dracariplease, explain how they’ve done that to Percy Jackson,because at this point I swear you’re just making shit up
This is why Netflix had to pay for copyright characters
👇🏻 if true
They're pulling an Ember Island Production. Part of me respects that, just a lil bit 🤏
I haven't seen it but hearing people talk about the live action I can't help but picture that one episode in ATLA season 3 where they watch the reenactment of the show. This is pretty much just that ig haha
Ah, so true dang
"More Serious tone" = "I have no idea what made this IP work in the first place."
This guy gets it
Isn't that the problem with a minimum of 75% of the reboots and re-imaginings over the last ten years or better?
You guys haven't even watched the show, and you take a few quotes out of context, but you hate it already. You guys lead a sad life.
I disagree. I think there is plenty of space to make AtlA more serious while maintaining the core of the Story and character (development). Just the fact alone that the war takes actual lives was very underplayed in the original, and would be a great if not _essential_ point to (re)visit in this live action.
But yes, taking away the childlike behaviour of characters who are meant to be actual children is not a very good Plan for this IP.
@@Udontknowmi Bruh, have you not witnessed the absolute onslaught of absolutely horrid "New takes on old material?" Its pretty fair to assume its a long shot this is going to be any good.
"We have decided to make Fire Lord Ozai a more sympathetic character."
I wouldn't be surprised
"we have decided that there are not enough zionists in the show so we made Osai a Jew"
I would flip on that one
"He's actually a great father now, we at Netflix feel that way he will connect with new parents"
"In this version, Iroh has hatred for Zuko because Zuko is ignoring the love and affection Fire Lord Ozai displays towards him."
Also, let's make every older character (especially Bumi and the former Avatars) unlikeable and tell Aang that he doesn't need friends. We want him to realize that these people are wrong - and you know what, let's teach him this lesson like 5 times!
The main point or at least the one I see most in the show is it’s a kid show but with a serious tone that younger audiences can still understand and still enjoy I mean the Gyatsos death scene is just a small glimpse I mean Zuko vs Azula, Aang vs Ozai, the invasion of the fire nation, these are all amazing and still have a serious tone and can still be watched by kids
“And we’re making Katara an Earthbender”
Or a light bender
@@dadatheartist-pt4th plasma bender
@@Angelfish_TheGoat A Quark-Gluon plasma Bender to be exact
she will probably use all the bending ability and harrass any male character cause thats the right thing to do
It's okay, because she has.... EARTH BENDING STYLE!
And people wonder why the original creator stopped working on the project with them
There are articles saying the original ones left bc THEY wanted to change more. Im not exactly excited for this, but im gonna reserve judgement til i watch the first few episodes
@@serenteaudios1737 well the main reason they actually left is because with the success of paramount, I believe they are starting their own studio for a bunch of different spin-off series and maybe even a new installment. And there is a significant difference between the creators wanting to make some changes within their creation. That's still a line with the characters and the core concept and a studio. Just making blanket changes disregarding the characters and core concepts
We weren't wondering. We knew
Idk about Michael but I know Bryan is a super liberal. I didn’t have high hopes from the beginning for this because if anything I thought he would encourage the Netflixification of the series.
There are only two correct ways to make adaptations.
Either you take the exact same characters and make the exact same story.
Or you take the general idea of the original, and make a new story with new characters.
The live action series was decent, but making it more "serious" was a huge miss. The awesome special effects really helped though. That 20 million per episode had to go somewhere, and it definitely wasn't in the story or acting!
very popular opinion : not every animated movie/shows need a live action
I already knew they were gonna botch this.... especially in today's world. 😬
You think they would've learned after the failed attempt at a movie... Hard to make ATLA look realistic in a live action, earth benders would be turning people into ground beef if they had a boulder hurled at them so most of the physics is going to be looking goofy unless they're stuck hurdling pebbles, same with firebending.
Waterbending and airbending might look okay without being too overpowered but if you tried applying actual physics to earthbending it'd be broken af...
@@DrakeOola The special effects actually looked great. It was the acting and dialogue that was the issue.
@@DrakeOolathe bending, special effects and fights are great. The problem people have with it is the storytelling and dialogue. It’s terrible and most acting is too except a few main characters
Remember how the last movie gave everyone cancer? That show kill all of pur inner kid
Just love how netflix thinks they are gonna "fix" something that is already absolutely perfect.
M knight thought he was going to “fix” it too… and we all know how that went… why are we trying so hard to revive a bow tied ending of a show like ATLA anyways? I get it’d be cool to see it in live action with 95% green screen and cgi… instead of enjoying the time and effort and YEARS that went into animating, writing, scripting, choreographing, editing, etc that went into the original show… I’m sure this will likely be a 2/5 show at worst but a 3/5 at best
(1) avatar, although enjoyable, is far from perfect.
(2) they're not trying to fix anything. They are simply adapting the story to live action with 1 hour episodes, which means maturing it a little bit. You can't have 20 minute standalone montages per episodem that wouldn't make sense.
@@Udontknowmiwell if "that" is their reason for trying to change certain aspects of the show, they should've told the audience. Not riding on this fake wokeness just to attract certain audience. Their very reason of changing aspects of the show is a disrespect to the original.
@@Udontknowmi Your point would be good if the original show didn't blend serious dialogue with breaks of levity masterfully. Longer episodes don't mean a better series, it just means the show is adapting more content into single episodes for an overall lesser number of episodes. Humor and serious dialogue are not mutually exclusive, and changing a story that is born of both concepts to only be one, diminishes the quality of that story.
Like they 'fixed' the Witcher. Oml. They hire complete hacks that have no respect or understanding of what made the original IPs work.
What's that? "if they don't change anything then what's the point of a remake"?
EXACTLY! These live action 'reimaginings' are pointless af selling nostalgia to depressed millenials.
As a depressed millenial this makes me sad.
"We at Netflix are huffing glue from a plastic bag, and you will have to deal with it because we aren't stopping any time soon!"
Fr tho, this show had so much potential and already has a fan base thanks to the original series. We all had high hopes for this show to be amazing, but most people will agree if could be so much better. At least it’s better than the last adaptation.
"We have also swapped the roles of Azula and Uncle Iroh."
TELL ME IT'S NOT TRUE
Why do I see them do that?
Oh please no 😢
The disrespect of Uncle Iroh can never be tolerated!
I know it's very bad and all but this would be kinda interesting
"We wanna make it like Game of Thrones" Keep Katara and Sokka away from each other
azula, stay away from zuko!
@@LS-jv9hp i just remember that the VA of azula said when asked "if azula went with zuko in a life changing adventure what that would be" and she said "i would get pregnant"
@@loft777oh my law!😂
Azula chasing Zuko around as a crazy Yandere would certainly be a more interesting change than what Netflix is doing. I mean if they had to change it at all.
R34 has had that covered for years.
Oh god please stop
Why does Netflix hate character flaws so much??? That’s half the point of the character
the zoomers and alphas need the heroes of the story to be perfect day one, or they start complaining because they think if the hero is flawed then the show is saying that "this is ok" and its offensive, thats why the character development today its mostly done on villains
Not to mention the fact that the original Avatar: The Last Airbender was ALREADY MATURE, like, you don't have to have all of your characters act like mature and healthy adults in order to have a mature show. The people making this Netflix show DESPERATELY need to go back and watch the original one, and I don't just mean watch it and move on, I mean watch it, dissect it, and understand what made it so great to begin with, in fact, throw Arcane: League Of Legends in there as well, so that they can understand that humans and beings in general don't and CAN'T be perfect and make perfect decisions 12/7, because THAT'S what makes a mature and realistic show, not this shit.
The entertainment industry should learn that having flaws is what makes characters relatable and that the characters overcoming said flaws is what makes them interesting
Period
The problem is, people are confusing sexism, with Sokka just being a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check.
We can have Sokka go through character development without reliving the 00s Girl Power era, yeah?
@@DWargs I mean it was intended as sexism in the form of enforced gender-norms, however he was also a sheltered cocky kid who needed a reality check.
The message has always been good, however this was one of the few series which executed said message perfectly as well in my opinion. Avatar the Last Airbender created strong independent female characters, but in a fashion where they neither undermine men, nor were overexaggerated
Well except maybe Toph being overexaggerated, however that was for a very specific purpose as it's a front she creates for herself to break away from her parent's control, not men, and even then she shows her more vulnerable side multiple times throughout the show, when she's shown to have failed or otherwise been in the wrong
Flaws, what are those? Those are only for the real main character. Side characters must always be perfect because why would you want to relate to a non-main character? 😂
@@matheussandbakk9959 I disagree with you. I feel like the way people have reacted to Sokka's arc have proven that it wasn't well handled. To dismiss this as "sexism" is radically oversimplifying and reductive, and does a disservice to the character and the arc he went through.
Sokka complaining that he lost to a bunch of girls is only the surface level. There's a lot underneath there that a 23 minute episode meant for kids that couldn't adequately unpack and explore. His pride as a warrior, and the duty he felt as a protector of his sister and Aang and his village back home, his shame in not being strong enough to protect them and failing to realize they were getting ambushed. Not to mention, the culture shock of running into a society that is completely different from the one he's always known. I think moving away from the sexism angle isn't removing his flaws at all, but rather, it might be able to allow us to dig deeper into his character and his arc as a warrior in a way that the original show didn't adequately plan and map out.
Also, I feel like applying modern Western terms to an isolated tribe fighting for survival at the edge of the world is a bit disingenuous and unfair, but maybe that's just me.
Not even season 1, sokka’s behaviour for FOUR EPISODES
As someone who just watched the episodes. It really does get dealt with fast, but feels natural
@@BearlyAiden honestly it wasn't even a big part of his character but the lesson was. removing this lesson removes sokka.
So season 1?
@@zenieySeason 1 has 20 episodes.
Its like sokka grew up In a small water tribe village and when he eventually went out in the world with his ideals he was immediately knocked on his butt
Honestly as soon as the beginning of the show after the ice burg crack I expected Aang to say will you go penguin sledding with me
"we also decided that zuko will be fine with betraying his uncle and returning to his fathers side after ba sing se"
Uncle Iroh now likes coffee
No that's goes to far.
Hot bean juice!? He is the Tea Guy! He is the wise old man! He is...*Sips some calming jasmine tea*...the best tea maker in Ba sing se!
That's blasphemous
@@KohakuB He opens the first Starbucks in Ba sing se
@@deondrepolk4502😂😂😂 is going to attract a lot of white girls and Hispanic girls
CHARACTER DEVELOPMENT
Netflix “ I don’t know what that means “
So Zuko hasn’t developed whatsoever? “Kill avatar” start of season to “respect avatar” by the end of it. You’re ignorant and just want to hate because others are doing it. You’re less original than the live action avatar show.
You misspelled Bryke.
Not just netflix…. Like all of Hollywood doesn’t care for character development smh
@@sarahlarock9885 if you think the avatar characters are the same as they were from start to finish with zero development then you didn’t watch the show. You’re just another annoying “fan” that hates everything because you’re a jerkoff that’s bored with life
@@playfulpanthress what?
Netflix: so remember atla forget all the good stuff and make the fights slow as hell
"And Toph wont be blind"
focusing on becoming the Avatar
"I don't want to be the Avatar" is the most said line of his in the show xD
Glad we have Aang to tell us that instead of the show... y'know... *showing* us that
@@donnyyario1726 Show don't tell is a lie invented by the movie industry. It is sometimes okay for character to verbalize emotions.
With that said, I wholeheartedly agree, I knew I was missing something from this show :D
@@arnerademacker key word "sometimes." The only thing every character does is tell. The only thing that comes out of their mouths is exposition. Show don't tell is a good thing, and is severely lacking in the live action. A good example of balance between exposition and show not tell is ironically the original animation.
Pretty sure the most said line is "My cabbages!"
@@arnerademackerGaslighting us this hard, at this time of day, in this economy?
We see what we see.
Also, Aang being adventurous throughout most of the show opens up the world to the audience. It also makes it feels like the world moves regardless of the Gangs presence in those locations; which they do.
Very well put. That was one of the best parts of the show. It feels like there's an entire world going on regardless of where the characters go, and they are experiencing it along with us. I couldn't put that feeling into words until I read your comment
Wasn't it gAang? Or sum?
Yeah my guess is they just wanna fit the story into 10 episode seasons soon they can't be added with the side quests
On top of that his adventurous spirit is half the reason they don’t get caught. Because Aang wants to explore and see cool things his movements have little rhyme or reason which made him next to impossible to track
@@lyubomirkonstantinov7825if they do 1hr episodes then they will have the same run time as the animated series, maybe a bit more
We need to start taking the belt to Netflix every time they ruin a show or get something factually wrong for the woke points.
It wasn't even woke. It was literally the opposite of woke.
I hope Netflix never makes a Danny Phantom life action
No wonder the original writers left during development.
They left because they wanted to change a lot of it and make it more serious. Everything fans don't want
Yup its gonna flop...Netflix directors need to take note...
@@sirnuggets9666 why?
Pfft bryke aint all that. If its up to only the two of them, appa would have been a dog and toph would have been a man
@@rocknroll1973they're taking a property that is well loved, and changing it _away_ from what people loved.
Worse, they're doing so in a way that destroys character arcs, so it isn't even likely to offer good storytelling to people who aren't already familiar with the story they're butchering
It was his sexism that got kitara angry enough to accidently free aang from the ice.
But this time aang just slipped right out 🤦🏽
There's a sublte Irony in having sexism deviding the ice and then somehow bringing world peace
@@Belladonno_The_Clown Noooo, you've got to be joking lmao
Aang in live action fr just breaks out on his own 😂 @@sydneyps
@@sydneyps unfortunately I am not ( it just randomly explodes and he just slides right out )
You know it is obvious why people do this when they make a copy of a show, but change up a lot of things thinking why we would like it but why we wouldn't.
Honestly instead of making a copy of a show of the story but change things up but it's basically the same thing but worse or maybe better, Why not Is focus on a previous avatar?
What I heard there is Over eighty avatars , they could have done each a show for each a different idea of a story and Series or movie.
“The people who grew up with the show are already in their 20s and 30s”
POV: Me who’s barley 14 and avatar was half my life 😀💔
Toph will now be the bolder played by Dewayne Johnson.
🤣🤣🤣
Noo 😂
that would be dope for the ember island players episode
If Dwayne Johnson doesn't play the Boulder or Tough (Ember Island Players) I will riot
What is even better in the animated series The Bolder was Voiced by Mick Foley, a one-time WWE wrestler
And she no longer has tremor-sense, but uses sound to see like Daredevil.
"AAAAAAAAAAH. There, now I have gotten a good look at you."
(That's from the hilariously awful play in the Ember Island Theater that was a fire nation understanding of their adventures in the last season of ATLA aka ep57)
The reason Katara found Aang in that ice berg is because she was angry at sokka for being sexist towards her. If sokka wasn’t sexist aang would still be frozen for another 1000 years and there wouldn’t be a last air bender series to begin with 😂
He wouldn't even be frozen if he hadn't been an immature kid and run from his responsibilities of being the avatar
@@zmcginnis66 but he was
The show literally wouldn't have started if sokka wasn't being sexist towards his sister, dear goodness, people don't understand storytelling anymore.
@@zmcginnis66tbf thats not really immature as much as it was overwhelmed. Bro was 12😂
You just blew my mind.
Sokka's immature and sexist attitude. Leads the end of the war....
What baffles me is that they complain about sokkas sexism but have absolutely no issues with it in the northern water tribe
Can we just collectively gather all the money we can as a FUCKING SPECICIES AND BUY THE PROPERTIES THEMSELVES!!! THESE COMPANIES HAVE NO FUCKING RESPECT AT ALL
Uncle Iroh, come pick me up, I'm scared.
Iroh really is the dottering old fool is appears and will never be able to help anyone. This is Netflix.
Room for me in the car....I'm scared too lol
> Focus on becoming the avatar
> Doesn't try to water bend once in the entire first book
Yeah good job with that one
Ugh I hated that too!!
"we're going to give him a visions that's basically like something really bad is going to happen if you don't go to the Northern Water Tribe."
Weird you felt you needed to invent a reason to go to the North when originally Aang is set to go so he and Katara can master water bending... So he can become a serious Avatar??? Like he was determined from the beginning he just wanted to make fun road trip stops on the way!
Omg I just noticed that!! He hasn’t tried to water bend once in the live action! That’s so frustrating
Omg so true like isn't mastering all elements just ad important or not even more like bruh 😭😭 and one thing thay resply bugged me was how qatara Just magically gets better at waterbending like literally in less than a day girly goes from I need a waterbending teacher to I am my own master and I magically became a pro at this 💀
For netflix was more important Katara than Aang... The best way to empowered Katara was to make her teach aang and waterbend with him...
“My name is ong”😂
I swear to God every single time they have made a live-action version of Avatar they have fumbled it so hard
“fire lord ozai is no longer evil. its the *mother* thats evil.”
WHAT. I only watched the first episode but I'm seriously considering not watching it now 😭
@@Kadagirl777 NO DONT WORRY ITS JUST A JOKE 😔😔
@@rovic3arceno429 😂You really had there 🤣 Given the other things people were saying I thought there could be some truth there 🤣I do still have doubts about watching more of it though- having them show the Earth Kingdom spy get brutally murdered on screen in the first five minutes, plus dedicating a huge chunk of time to seeing all the Air Nomads get mercilessly slaughtered and burned to death did not exactly do it for me 😬(And they gave it a PG rating! 😵💫) Between that and all the other feedback, I'm not sure if I'm gonna really like it. I'm currently rewatching the original because I had to wash the bad taste of that first episode out of my mouth 🤣
And we're going to show Azula being a pussy in season one
@@Kadagirl777I only maybe made it 5 minutes in
“Sokka can’t be sexist”
First episode shows a genocide of an entire people 😂
even the children it's the younglings all over again!
It just wasn't needed to define his character, I like Netflix spin on it
Then pakku in the water tribe IS STILL SEXIST. WHAT THE FUCK?
They rather put a bunch of people getting slaughtered instead of some sexist remark cause you know the viewer is very sensitive
@@kpbear13It 100% was needed. All the warriors of his tribe left, leaving him as the only guy in the tribe. So he learned he had to be the toughest and baddest of the village.
Suki teaches him to not be sexist and to accept that others can protect themselves. Netflix can suck it.
It’s impossible to reason with a company that thinks an “Inclusion Director” is the most pivotal position on set.
Just do the ODA with one piece bro straight up told Netflix to shut up because they wanted Zoro and Nami to have a thing going
Also, the fact that Bumi revealed who he was before fighting Anng kinda took away the power of that whole interaction and episode
I thought so as well. That's another thing that really bothered me
yea i thought they ruined bumi in live action. he was too depressed and not the fun guy he was in animation
@@davidtran9455mans was not the depressed he was just trying to teach aang the severeness of what is going on in the world which he also did in the cartoon 😭😭
@@sancholoaded2388 ...no he didn't? His lesson was to think outside of the box, and that no matter how much pressure he faces he should "always think like a mad genius". Literally the lesson verbatim, its the opposite to the new show.
@@sancholoaded2388ya know, I just binged watched it alone that’s not what happened. His lessons was for Aang to be creative and to think outside of the box like a mad genius. It had nothing to do with the seriousness of the world lol
He's not just a kid. He's an airbender. He's supposed to be a free spirit
He will be. Stop judging the show without seeing it yet smh
no he won't just wait and you'll see everyone was right@@Udontknowmi
@@Udontknowmi I don't know about you but if I remember correctly being ultra serious is not free spirited
@@UdontknowmiYou act like a payed shill. This is history repeating itself for the umpteenth time. 1: Beloved and well respected original IP releases with striking success. 2: Someone representing what is a debatably higher level of art takes said IP looking to spread its audience and smears it into the ground because they destroyed and removed everything that’s fundamental to the original story. It’s BS. Stop defending abhorrent trash.
@@risingphoenix2529je probably i saw about 5 comments in various places justsaying stuff like you havent watched the show etc...
Why can’t these live action remakes just follow the source material, it’s not that hard
Can we also tease the production value in in cinematography ? So many shorts are dead center on actors face, back and forth between conversations - or worse - just monologuing to no one (to the audience?) straight into the camera... like who are you talking to? These lovely sets were created and then they didn't want to show them in shots where characters were talking? We could turn this style camera shot into a drinking game and be drunk half way through the first episode.
"We want Aang to focus on being the avatar".
I'm on episode 4 and Aang has not even tried water bending.
Spoiler alert, he does not and lots of important plot points from the original series is missing, making their characters not as true to the original
@@nvapisces7011 I know :c
Also, I don't know who that is but that's not Katara. She's someone with the same name.
@@nvapisces7011 He does actually. When he enters the Avatar state (yes it's Kyoshi, but they're the same person) and when he embodies the Ocean Spirit (as a Kaiju). I'd chock it down mainly to budget. Water VFX is pretty expensive.
@@Cabolt44 yeah well Aang is more funny in the animated series and is shown to be more playful because he's still a child at 12 years old
@@nvapisces7011 They honestly should have made an adaptation of Legend of Korra. That's the more serious Avatar they could have used. ATLA Liv action feels stale
One of the biggest complaints about the live action movie was that aang was too serious. Sad to see Netflix commiting to the same mistake. Sure, he has his serious moments, but his initial goofy personality helps to create contrast and show his struggle to make difficult choices when he has to
Because they adapting the live action not the animation, let's just go with that so we don't jave to care what kind of garbage it's gonna be.
I think the movie ang did try to go a little innocent but then someone saw characters development and said we don't need that.
Man wdym? Did you not see the trailers and behind the scenes? Aang's gonna be a goofy af kid most of the time lmao
@madridistasejati5358 almost the entire cast are fans of the animation even throw shade at the movie during interviews
Watch their behind the scenes snippets and you'll know they're 100% not going for what the movie did
There is no movie
These changes are the reason the creators left. It wasnt their story anymore
Him :"What lesson will soka learn, what will suki teach him"
Netflix: "he will be unimaginably bigoted and racist"
A big thing about Aang goofing off is that it is basically him running away from his responsabilities, but it always ends with the gang meeting people whose lives were affected by the fire nation in some way, regardless of where they are, this works to show how inescapable the fire nation's threat is to the world, which is a HUGE part of Aang's development into accepting his responsabilities as avatar
The idea for a live-action remake should have been frozen in ice and left for 100 years
I love the way you worded this man
I'm so dumb that I didn't realize this. How wherever Aang and the gang went lives were affected by the fire nation. Damn.
@@stevenyox1252 Same here. Sounded just perfect
It's not just that either. Air nomads are literally the element of fun, as stated by Iroh. Aang quite literally brought joy to the world, not just because he's a kid, but because he's an air nomad. They're known for pulling pranks, living in harmony with nature, and having a good sense of humor. To make Aang more serious and less fun is to take away from the air nomad culture.
Aang's immaturity and reluctance to be the Avatar drove the whole story. Sokka's character development was tied to the absence of male role models.
Also the way they ruined Bumi....
Exactly! Sokka's arc has deeper messages about positive and negative male influences and how war affects how children are raised, Sokka's inital sexism was really tied up with feeling he needed to play the role of protector while all the men in the Southern Water Tribe were away fighting...not to mention losing his mother and how that probably also made it easier for him to develop sexist opinions.
"We don't want people punching a disabled person so we are replacing Toph"
Aang is a child tho, realistically he'll be more focused on playing and he will have to learn how to balance his desire to play and his call to work.
“Sokka can’t be a misogynist because it’s 2024.”
Paku: “You can’t fight because girl.”
Stop the cap
@@flownel1278what are you even trying to say? Are you supporting or denying?
im assuming that the "you're a girl you can't fight" doesn't happen. dissolving the plot further.
No one said Sokka CAN’T be a misogynist, they condensed the story a ton so they made cuts to certain arcs. They didn’t change it for moral reasons.
@@ThatRandomGuy-ym2bv Avatar animated series is so epic the live action eliminate the essence of the character
Netflix is ruining something? Couldn’t have guessed that. 😂
Yup
Can't wait for them to just cancel it after the first season 🔥🔥🔥🔥
Not only that look what the did to Ultraman why is he quipped why does his legs look like that
@@NovaaTheGreatShow hasn't even come out yet and people are already upset how is this possible? Also where is everyone getting this info im so out of the loop
Thats why I am happy Oda took such a big part in the one piece live action
Sokka was sexist in 2 episodes!!! TWO EPISODES!!! Sokka was never a misogynist. Hes from a culture where men were soldiers. Hakoda left him behind because he was too young to go to war. Kyoshi island had women warriors so Sokka arrogantly questions it. The only reason so many fans care about Sokka being sexist is because of the memes where Suki beats the misogyny out of him. In the cartoon hes sexist for 2 episodes. Sokka flaw is that hes an idiot!!! Thats it. Hes the comic relief. He was always a genius, he was always smart, he was always good with children considering hes training children in the pilot episode.
Slowly starting to make sense as to why the OG creators walked out on the project
same thoughts 😅
Actually it has been rumors that the OG creators wanted to do more changes to the characters, due to over time not being happy with them in hindsight
@@1hmgirlthank you for sharing this! Also all these posts are random news sights trying to get clicks by taking things out of context and deeming theories as facts. The new Netflix clip describes aang as a fun loving kid who has responsibilities he doesn’t want. THAT IS AANG! #waitbeforehate
You haven't watched the show so you can't say shit.
@@1hmgirl There are “rumors” about almost everything. Doesn’t make them remotely true.
I just rewatched Avatar as an adult. Trust me when I say they don’t need to make the story more ‘mature.’ Like all good children’s stories, it is more than sufficiently captivating for an adult audience.
I think they just needed to make it less naive. A 100 year war can be shown for the horror that it is in a live action. That doesn't mean they had to never have anything silly happen.
Yup. My dad who hates watching animation absolutely loved ATLA. Toph was his favorite(like everyone).
The fox and the hound 😭
It's a high point in action, fantasy, family, and animated television. It really didn't have much room for improvement.
@@PainMonkey Had me tearing up multiple times, and I remembered some really important lessons that I'd lost sight of somewhere along the way. It really is exceptional.
Me when I first heard this: WHAT THE FUCK!?
It really wild how companies do this & are so clueless and full of themselves to do what the people actually want that they rather fuck up and screw up or cancel projects that could be huge success but they ruin it.
It's like all the writers forgot how important complexity and bad character traits are. Zuko isn't our favorite because he got a new hairstyle and is a brooding bad boy, he's our favorite because of how much we saw him grow and change to be more compassionate.
Same with Sokka and Aang. They started off as immature children and ended as kids matured beyond their years while still withholding some of that childish charm (look at how Sokka acted in the Ember Island Tales episode).
Don't worry, all the male characters will have plenty of Patriarchal flaws, they just won't grow at all as they are men and incapable of it. The women won't grow either, but that's because they are already perfect from birth. This is Netflix!
Yeah, and they totally removed one of Zuko's important turning points--attempting to save General Zhao (who'd just tried to murder him) from the ocean spirit! And had Iroh kill him instead! So so lame