Thanks for the dyno runs and comparisons! Looks like Triumph did well for their first 250F and most likely went a little conservative to make sure durability was strong out of the box. These bikes look better in person with excellent build quality appearance. I wonder if they change much for the 2025 TF250X?
@@HPRaceDevelopment it was just the triumph 250 we had issues, even got a new stock ECU and it still had issues. It was for the little brother of a pro hill climber and the kid is stinky fast. Never had that issue before and yes it while he was riding.
There was a Triumph dealer linked with a popular TH-cam motocrosser whos a really cool guy. However the dealer told him it makes 51 Horsepower and I immediately said "Absolutely not". I got so much shit from people. Ive spent some time around dynos and modern motocross bikes and have not seen a stock 250f make 50 ever before. My Dyno had the Triumph @ 42.8 HP / 20.4 TQ
Id say your dyno damn right to accurate. the bike we had did well and had a decent fuel in it - by all accounts with some mapping the bike will do what ours showed and most people showing 42 ish stock. 51 is world class
Would cr250 1992-2001 make good power with tuning? Im thinking of getting it built for supermoto but is it worth it? how does it compare to 2005-2007 in bench
No mx bike auto adjusts. Luckily the stock tune up worked well with these fuels. Selecting race fuels for many people is about selecting a fuel that works well with the stock ecu tune.
@@HPRaceDevelopment good to know, thank you! Have you experimented with 100 LL ave gas? Asking because that’s available to me at a very affordable price. ( 22’ 350 xcf )
@@HPRaceDevelopmentI’d be interested in your opinion on 100LL for both 2T and 4T. It’s super affordable and readily available, lasts for a long time.
Hey why would my 2000 cr250r be acting like it completely sucks the bowl dry after half throttle but if I hold it at a quarter throttle it will scream and all it had done to it is a full fmf and phat head on it running c14
@@adriangalvez5104 its pretty much a straight clone of a ktm. They have a few changes such as a twin compression ring piston which is bad generally for power - and its head is like newer ktm engine port but on older ktm engine design.
@@take5th Hmm triumph dealers claiming big numbers and hyping it up. media outlets all said it has “more bottom” than ktm and was hybrid of ktm and yamaha
@@HPRaceDevelopment ok. I saw a couple guys ride, on youtube mind you, and say it was more progressive and broad than the competition, preferred low revs. i certainly dont know.
@@take5th Does our dyno chart show power focussed at lower ranges than the ktm? Where does our chart show the highest value of power on the triumph? As far as I can see - its not stronger than the ktm on any point of low end and peaks right near the limiter. So maybe the reviewers need a little more accurate butt dyno…
Thanks for the dyno runs and comparisons! Looks like Triumph did well for their first 250F and most likely went a little conservative to make sure durability was strong out of the box. These bikes look better in person with excellent build quality appearance. I wonder if they change much for the 2025 TF250X?
Great video as always.
Does the race fuel help with the nasty bog in the low RPM when snapping the throttle?
@@fugginrambo Some do - but do you actually do that on track - or just on stand and in the pits trying to do it?
@@HPRaceDevelopment it was just the triumph 250 we had issues, even got a new stock ECU and it still had issues. It was for the little brother of a pro hill climber and the kid is stinky fast. Never had that issue before and yes it while he was riding.
Id like to see you do some dyno testing on a 300 enduro models! 👍🏻
Wich one has more bottom end
There was a Triumph dealer linked with a popular TH-cam motocrosser whos a really cool guy. However the dealer told him it makes 51 Horsepower and I immediately said "Absolutely not". I got so much shit from people. Ive spent some time around dynos and modern motocross bikes and have not seen a stock 250f make 50 ever before. My Dyno had the Triumph @ 42.8 HP / 20.4 TQ
Id say your dyno damn right to accurate. the bike we had did well and had a decent fuel in it - by all accounts with some mapping the bike will do what ours showed and most people showing 42 ish stock.
51 is world class
Have u got many 250f over 50 rear hp
@@befree322 a few, not many. Have dyno some “good” bikes from a lot of places, 50 is a big number!
no adjustments needed for race fuel?
What race fuel.
@@HPRaceDevelopment You said vp t4 and the other brand is race fuel??
Sweet
cool, didn't know they made a dirt bike
Would cr250 1992-2001 make good power with tuning? Im thinking of getting it built for supermoto but is it worth it? how does it compare to 2005-2007 in bench
Not bad but the newer ones make a lot more
Do you have to retune with the different fuels or can it’s computer make the adjustments?
No mx bike auto adjusts.
Luckily the stock tune up worked well with these fuels. Selecting race fuels for many people is about selecting a fuel that works well with the stock ecu tune.
@@HPRaceDevelopment good to know, thank you!
Have you experimented with 100 LL ave gas? Asking because that’s available to me at a very affordable price. ( 22’ 350 xcf )
@@franzv3172I’d be interested in your opinion on 100LL for both 2T and 4T. It’s super affordable and readily available.
@@HPRaceDevelopmentI’d be interested in your opinion on 100LL for both 2T and 4T. It’s super affordable and readily available, lasts for a long time.
@@motocross402 terrible 4 stroke fuel.
Hey why would my 2000 cr250r be acting like it completely sucks the bowl dry after half throttle but if I hold it at a quarter throttle it will scream and all it had done to it is a full fmf and phat head on it running c14
sounds like you are mis disgnosing the issues
looks more like a ktm to me... idk. Looks nice though!
Whats funny is that everyone thought it was a copy and paste of a ktm engine😂
It is...of the 16-22 generation which performs a heck of a lot like the triumph.
Old ktm engine, warmed over. New ktm power comparisons, please.
@@MrKips1 It is compared to a new ktm
@@HPRaceDevelopment i meant like literally a straight copy of a ktm 250f engine 😂
@@adriangalvez5104 its pretty much a straight clone of a ktm. They have a few changes such as a twin compression ring piston which is bad generally for power - and its head is like newer ktm engine port but on older ktm engine design.
I’ve heard it is relatively mild, broad powerband. Haven’;t heard squat about power hype.
@@take5th Hmm triumph dealers claiming big numbers and hyping it up. media outlets all said it has “more bottom” than ktm and was hybrid of ktm and yamaha
@@HPRaceDevelopment ok. I saw a couple guys ride, on youtube mind you, and say it was more progressive and broad than the competition, preferred low revs. i certainly dont know.
@@take5th Does our dyno chart show power focussed at lower ranges than the ktm? Where does our chart show the highest value of power on the triumph? As far as I can see - its not stronger than the ktm on any point of low end and peaks right near the limiter. So maybe the reviewers need a little more accurate butt dyno…
you should do a 24 kx450 stock/slip on and airbox mods
I assume you own a kx450.
Find someone with that bike, and those parts in the tx area who is open to doing it and I will.
Hanno copiato bene😅