Not only was he exhausted, but he was merely measuring Nero's power and strength to which Nero did successfully display enough to earn his Father's respect
@@kin4386 sure he was trying to “beat him” he wasn’t taking it as nearly as seriously as Nero. He was just trying to feel how strong his son was while Nero was fighting like if he didn’t win his remaining family was gonna die. While Vergil was trying to “win” he was just trying to toss Nero aside, not kill him immobilize.
@@Gxmb1t "If I beat Nero, then by default I beat you. Agreed, Dante?" That's all I need to say. That and is "I can still fight." after he lost. Clearly showing that he didn't wanna take that defeat. And the "I won't lose next time." as if to imply he now has a score to settle. Someone "Not taking it seriously" would not add those kinds of comments. He was trying his best to beat Nero, and couldn't. It's as simple as that.
In terms of actually powers along I agree peak vergil could have beaten Nero but that's not the point. It's meant to represent Dante and vergil's time ending by the fact that Nero now has enough strength to protect the earth.
Top 10 DMC characters: 10. The Alpha 9. The Dark Slayer 8. The Nefarious Usurper 7. Urizen 6. The Mysterious One 5. V 4. The Black Angel 3. Nelo Angelo 2. The Omega 1. Vergil
I agree, Vergil had Yamato throughout the entire game, even in their final cutscene. Nero finally unlocked his ( I guess) full potential and gained a bonus. But yeah, that was his own power.
Mans didn’t even touch on Vergil’s abilities and techniques either😭(Summmined swords, Doppleganger, his vanish/teleportation, etc), Vergil is literally the embodiment of power
True but Him and Dante have the exact same abilities... One uses ad the other don't over preference. Like Dante can send out energy swords like Virgil but chooses Ebony ad Ivory for sentimental reasons
Yea, DMC 5 massively increased the cosmology of DMC, not to mention giving Dante and Vergil immeasurable speed since Dante casually outmatches the ripper demons that can travel across the infinite sized underworld in a day
Actually DMC was already at that speed scaling before. Pinnacle of Combat solidified the argument to its most blatant statements to where if you try to disagree with it, you are just in denial at this point.
@@manicrhymes9552 Pluto is stated to be fast enough to bypass axis of time with his sheer speed alone, Reaper only his lackeys though got infinite speed.
@@RedDusk369thank you for being in the 5% of DMC fans who understand that the 9D actually existed prior to PoC, all it did was solidify the evidence of DMC’s 9D potential. Respect
I also definitely think Vergil was reluctantly fighting Nero and didn't really want to embarrass his mostly human son. The way he tried to get him to stand down from the fight and the way he said "Nero..." like the secretly concerned father he is makes me believe he took it easy on his son.
We don't know what Nero's mother is, she could be, human, Demon, Angel or a hybrid of any or all 3. So you can't call Nero mostly Human cause we don't know.
@@ivangomezperez1481 they did in DMC Devil May Cry, and to freshen up the story and do something new now would be the best time to introduce them for DMC 6 or they can do DMC Devil May Cry 2 or or both
@@santinogoring8860 dmc devil may cry isn't on this timeline, so I don't think she was an angel. Dante and the other demons kept mentioning he didn't have any power, so I don't think she was a demon.
Bruh, Dante and Vergil are low multiversal level and some believe high complex multiverse (l don't think they are that powerful) but still, even a planetary level guy is a god since he can wipe out the whole existence of a species. 🤣
vergil was also not fighting to kill nero. he was visibly interested and curious with nero. he also was testing nero and so it stands to reason that vergil, in addition to being weakened, was also not taking the fight as seriously as he did with dante.
I agree with this comment. I am insulted by the fact that the Yamato was considered the least powerful katana. If you think it is the most powerful, you must be a little motivated.
One thing to note, the nightmare familiar along with the rest of his brethren aren't as strong as their original counterparts, they are just memories of them after all. However it is stated that Nightmare could've beaten Urizen by himself if he could be out for as long as he wished, so who's to say.
That statement refered to urizen(at his birth) when he just got Split from vergil... So it's long before he got empowered by the Qliphoth at the begining of dmc5. V and urizen were born at the same time from vergil So V could evaluate urizen's power at that Time, that's why he thought Dante could beat urizen as he remember Dante's power on Mallet Island in dmc1.
@@bricelandarSo that means that Vergil's Demonic side was as strong as Dmc1 Dante with Sparda equipped.... Which means a crippled, dying Vergil could dunk on Mundus...
Just something I wanted to note, but since demon souls are 9d in dmc (as mentioned in the video), all the weapons that are able to kill demons should logically have 9d AP. Meaning that mirage edge is definitely not the strongest weapon in dmc. I personally think it’s a tie between DSD and Yamato.
To note that Yamato and DSD are technically parts of Sparta TRUE devil sword as in one of the note in DMC5 that Sparta split his power into 3 part one holding his name (devil sword sparta) 1 his power (Yamato) and rebellion
@@weebslegacy I dont think there is a true devil sword sparda, sparda being described creating the 3 swords was worded to make it seem he forged them out of his own power, not another sword.
I don't think that's how it works. Humans are killed when thier physical body dies, even if nothing happens to their souls. Demons are probably the same, considering that normal humans like Lady and Nico can hurt and kill demons.
In the video, it has no mention of demon souls being 9th dimensional, and even so, you just need to kill the body, which 3d weapons can do. Time stamp for reference 3:08
On a similar note about Mirage Edge Nero being able to make a 'mirage' Yamato is really awesome it really shows that he really is his Father's Son he even has space cutting effects but only visually as far as I know
Fun fact DMC 5 archives tell that sparda split his power into the 3 swords rebellion , force edge and Yamato So even the swords themselves have more power than most of the characters in pop culture
I think you’re forgetting that both the Rebellion and Yamato are both extensions of their respective owner’s demonic energy, which is directly connected to their soul. Even if it weren’t connected to the soul, it still would be connected to energy that can preform soul erasure on these 9D-10D beings. I do think it’s funny that Nico is surprised by this at all considering both summon swords and the fact that Mundus CREATED 2 UNIVERSES CASUALLY.
@@EternalVirgin Sparda split his energy into three swords, The Sparda, the Rebellion, and the Yamato. That's a big reason why Dante got such a massive power boost when he unlocked Sin Devil Trigger, he absorbed two of those swords into himself.
@@moonmelonsWhile Urizen (Vergil's demon side) consumed the qlipoth fruit which gave Urizen power on the same level or even stronger than Mundus. And once V combines with Urizen, his true power was finally unleashed that allowed him to match Dante equally.
Let's not forget that while on the verge of death when you play as Vergil in DMC5, there's a cutscene where he's confronted by a couple of demons, and he just swiftly cuts them down with no effort.
practically jumped when i saw you posted this. great video once again. i hadn't even considered that the mirage edge was so powerful because of the 9D scaling before. and vergil was not only tired from fighting dante previously, but he was also most likely testing his son's strength. he's much more passive in his fight with nero than he is in his fight with dante. also i've seen the argument that vergil has immeasurable speed but i honestly think it could go either way between inaccessible and immeasurable. but that would also mean that same speed scaling applies to dante since he'd naturally have to be almost a complete equal to vergil stat wise.
i always believed that vergil made his doppelganger in the same manner he made his mirage edge. so in my head cannon i believed vergil simply made a much stronger version of his normal summoned swords and with the same technique he made his doppelganger so he can should be able to make things like spears bows maces and even an armor around him kinda like suasuke with his susano on another note i believe that the last fight in dmc 5 was much much more than just a fight. vergil says if i BEAT nero i beat you agreed dante ? he didnt intend to kill he just wanted to see how strong nero actually is and all nero wanted to do was to protect his new found family and dante knew this so he just let the two of them fight as in the family of sparda fighting is the best form of bonding vergil wanted someone to protect and love him then nero comes and says no one is dying today and i believe that made vergil change. he began to trust and love nero and accept him as his son. he gave him his book as a sign of acceptance trust. i'm sure vergil could absolutely shred nero but it was not the point. i'm just glad that nero made vergil and dante stop hating each other and brought them peace. he got his seal of approval from dante and vergil and in the end he became a great character with a lot of growth and is a fan favorite now. capcom really did him good hope to see the family of sparda unite one more time to kill mundus for good
3:14 This could be wrong because even something like 2D to 3D is a beyond infinite distance apart in terms of scale. Not even an infinite amount of 2D objects stacked on top of each other would make a 3D object because that’s like trying to reach one by adding zeros/literally nothing. The distance is not infinite, but inaccessible, as in not even an infinite amount of infinites will allow a lower dimensional object to become a higher dimensional object.
Nero only stronger than Dante in only Dmc4 There is multiple stated so many Times dante admit himself that Nero is stronger than him, when Dante and Nero in their second fight dante say that Nero wasn't pullings his Punch yet, he wasn't like holding back. So it means that Nero could be possibly stronger and insane potential in Devil may Cry so Dante doesn't seen like he treated him like fodder.
Nero was definitely stronger in DMC4 but lacks the control and experience that Dante had so Dante just plays around and taught nero to make mistakes heck Dante could stop the savoir punch but nero could out right push it back
@DarkSlayer487 see I even find THAT hard to believe cause Dante caught nero's punches. And nero was trying to pull his arm away with all his might, Dante wasn't even budging. Dante played with nero that whole game.
You actually managed to humble me on some of my scaling. That being that I totally forgot about the mirage bosses being metaphysical and that the originals scale above them making them above metaphysical which ofcourse is absurd but actually makes a ton of sense and is very balanced.
@@DigitaltYT oh trust me as a fan of the games, novels,and scaling I know these guys are absurd but damn I underestimated just how important the mirages were for scaling!
I can just imagine security popping saying "We heard of reports of someone swinging a dangerous sharp weapon in the middle of the line" Afterwards "False alarm, just the badass storm passing through" 😂
@@UmarEdits_27 Defeated the demon king Mundus who simultaneously created another dimension just to fight Dante. *defeated the demon called nightmare. Who was created by Mundus as a weapon. It is said that nightmare was so incredibly strong. He could lift the entire demon realm, ( the demon realm has its own universe). That puts nightmare in the infinite strength category and Dante easily beat that thing. *Defeated Pluto. Pluto was the first demon king who can travel and bypass the dimensional axis of the time stream with sheer speed. That puts Pluto at immeasurable speed and Dante managed to beat him. *Defeated Argosax. It was said that Argosax was equal to Mundus and his mere presence alone was combining the demon realm and the human realm together. *the dimensionality scaling of the demon realm. It is said that demons (even the weak ones) in dmc are actually 9th dimensional (note: the higher the dimensionality the more powerful that character is), putting them in a low complex multiversal. That’s really powerful if you think about it. However due to the events that happened in dmc 5, Where Dante achieved sin devil trigger. In which tripled is powers fully. Dante is now high complex multiversal, putting him in the 11th dimensional category.
Still doubtful Vergil was even tired fighting Nero, if this was the case he wouldn’t even be able to stay in SDT for 3/4ths of the boss fight like he does in game. he def saw Nero as his way out of having to kill Dante and conceding. Unlike his brother he didn’t want to kill eachother, Vergil knows what it means to be human now, but still can’t talk it out like a normal person lol. And besides at the start of M20 you can hear Vergils voice break when talking to Nero, ashamed of almost putting Nero on the same path as him.
Vergil was about to kill Dante and could have possibly killed Nero also because Vergil said he could still fight, but would rather stop the qliphoth from spreading.
If he really didn't wanted to fight dante then he could stopped in the exact moment he was complete again, he had the oportunity since dante was tired to the point of clash swords and vergil only using one hand to push. Dante even goes and says "come on vergil, lets end this" or something similar, giving to vergil the oportunity to say "ok". But instead of stop fighting, he incentives dante to rest and get strong and then fight in more equal conditions.
@@adriansaavedra3050 Nah, in visions of v the canon manga, v in vergils head asks vergil if he really wants to kill dante, vergil responds with no, v asks why, and vergil responds with, "because i like fighting with my brother", so dead ass canonically dante was trying to kill vergil, and vergil wasnt trying to kill dante for once.
@@hectorcofrevaldes8501 In Visions of V, the moment right before the clash in Vergils mind, V tells Vergil that his brother is wanting to play again like when the were kids. IMO that shows Vergil had a different idea of their clash. Dante had gone mad over hearing the name Vergil and almost even went DT bc of how pissed he got hearing the name Vergil. It shows to me that over the years, Dante had grown to hate Vergil irrationally, as going as far as striking him down immediately as soon as reforming, even V was afraid of this when considering revealing his true identity. Same would go for Vergil bc I mean let’s face it, god knows how long trapped in Hell and the only thing you’re left with is hate of the person who stopped you from having it all last second. But V changed that, and instead of going to family therapy and talking it out, Vergil thought this was the only way to talk to him, like when they were kids.
Vergil is not that Debt, he wanted to end this rivalry, even told dante if he beat nero that means he is stronger than Dante, yet nero won. "Vergil was tied" no he wasnt, he and Dante were about to BEGIN their true fight, the SIN DT for fuck sake I hate how fanboys just boil down fights as NUMBERS battle. never about circutances, experiences, set of abilities, of the surroundings at the time no none of that, I'm not saying that Nero suddenly just became stronger than both, no, he just had the abilities he needed to beat Vergil and vergil only has Yamato he does not have his other weapons and he fighting style is very rigid, while nero as dante can adapt. Canonwise Nero never beat Dante once, even in 4 after his boss fight Dante is not taking nero seriously, he doesn't even DT but Vergil Does and Nero also finally gets his own DT, he is finally almost fighting the Sparta Brothers on the same playfield, but Nero DT is nothing like Dante's or Vergil's, heck neither saw it coming, as result Nero had everything he needed to Win that fight. Is that simple.
@DigitaltYT Good video, but I do have a couple of criticisms. For one, you mistakenly assume that because human soul=9D construct that suddenly Mirage Edge is the strongest weapon in the series, but this is inaccurate for you fail to draw attention to the fact that demons far weaker then Vergil even in DMC3 are either transformed human souls or have feats of being able to destroy human souls. Secondly, DMC3 Lore and PoC lore reveal that human souls are generated by the Nirvana realms within the DW (seen in DMC3's final levels) which in turn places the Demonworld above souls (ad infinitum) in superiority, not to mention the Qliphoth tree at its apex (with the fruit having both human and demonic energies) which as we learn in DMC5 info, the artbook, and VoV quite literally imagined reality (both the DW and HW and possibly the larger DMC multiverse mentioned within DMC Volume 2 depending on how you construe the quote) places current Vergil so far above 9D human souls he may as well be 10 or 11D. Furthermore, Vergil pumps demonic energy through his weapons in much the same way Dante does through his guns (to give the easiest example) so all his weapons would scale as high as him relatively and the Yamato is his main and strongest weapon in his arsenal. Hence, why he uses it so often and even though Mirage Edge is a personification of his soul that doesn't necessarily make it that special in comparison to his other weapons since human souls as a scaling measure were surpassed even by DMC3 Vergil, let alone DMC5 Vergil. In either case, a good vid, just missing on a few context issues that weren't addressed in its usage of certain lore quotes.
it depends on the demon and monsters in Mundus King, in fact the same thing as Dante and Nero, killing demons and monsters takes a long time to kill, in fact, Vergil and Dante and Nero in dm5 prisisa 5 hit 10 hit or 20 hit
I wonder what's more terrifying: The guy that becomes the best through sheer effort and unbendable will, or the one that matches that guy by atudying 10 minutes before the test? The fact that Dante can quickly match Vergil despite not having an unquenchable thirst for power, even when Vergil pretty much spends his every waking moment getting as much power as he possibly can, is a twreifying testament to just how stupidly OP Dante is. If Dante put in half the effort that Vergil does in gaining power, Vergil would have zero chance in defeating him. Lol. I guess he's lucky that Dante's nature is so lax and aloof.
In fairness it’s not like Dante stagnates I’m pretty sure him just fighting demons constantly makes him stronger despite his drive not being on Vergils level
Dante still laying on the floor throughout the whole vergil and nero fight confirms just how weakened and exhausted vergil and dante were due to their battle. Nero is not even on mundus level yet
In regards to Vergil's fight against Nero at the end of DMC5, not only was Vergil already weakened from fighting Dante, but he also wasn't fighting Nero seriously. He had been made aware of the fact that Nero was his son already, and this fight was his way of getting a measure of Nero's potential. It was more of a sparring match than a battle to the death, and Vergil getting pushed back was a result of Nero surpassing Vergil's expectations. While Nero is still far, far weaker than Vergil at this point, Nero does well enough to earn his father's respect, which is probably why Vergil decides to team up with Dante to fix the mess that he had created even though moments earlier he didn't really care about the consequences and simply was after power at any cost. His change of heart was a result of him doing his son a favor. As an aside, everyone jokes about Vergil being a deadbeat dad, but the guy legit didn't even know he had a son until Dante told him. He had no deep connection to Nero's mother, and Nero's conception was probably the result of a one night stand in a clouded night of passion during which a very unlucky condom was unable to defeat Vergil's power.
@@NamesSmeg That would probably be because it's a shonen action game and not a porno. That, and Dante's the president of the virgin forever club eating pizza alone in the dark.
I am INCREDIBLY curious about Nero's mom ever since someone proposed she could have some sort of priestess relation, hence Nero's devil trigger looking more "angelic" than his relatives
@@dhampir_days Pretty much everyone from where Nero grew up worships the same religion in which they worship Sparda as if he were a god. It's for that very reason that Vergil was investigating the place to begin with. The details of how he met Nero's mother and what exactly happened between them are not very clear right now, but if she was any kind of priestess it definitely wasn't anything truly holy that she was worshipping. My speculation on the matter is that Nero's DT looks the way it does because in regards to blood, he's got more concentrated humanity than either Dante or Vergil. As the grandson of Sparda and the son of Vergil, he's got a lot more human DNA than demon DNA, which hypothetically might bring him slightly "closer to god" than Dante and Vergil. Depending on how much the series chooses to borrow from Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, the difference between an angel and a demon might be a much more blurry line than someone might expect.
man i hope there is a comic where vergil and nero's relationship is explored just as a rebellous teen who secretly yearns for his father and a father who always tries to buy milk from the farthest store.
I dunno, I think pretty highly of Vergil, let's see... I dunno, I think in "metaphysical" terms, the soul, anyone's soul is very powerful, even if we are felled by bullets and blades, but Yamato, like any good mcguffin, or weapon for a warrior, is like a conduit that can channel the spirit and amplify them both, so is ultimately, stronger than soul-edge, I mean, force-edge. By feats and mystery alone. Utility is a factor people underestimate in value as opposed to raw potential. And in a game with a million tools for a million jobs, no one devils arm can solve them all (as good as Yamato can).
Spada is dumb weak (DMC universe wise) , which makes their story of him that more intriguing cause he's revered as a legend in terms of strength and deeds among demons and mortals but Dante and Vergil surpassed him soo long ago...in DMC 3 they confirmed. So Nero by default is also stronger than him.
yo love this one but just a small criticism if that's alright, maybe u could simplify some of ur lines just to get to the point quicker? helps a lot and can help prevent stuttering
I love DMC and I love the three of them. There are some out there who keep saying that Vergil and Dante aren't even country level. I can prove them wrong now.
Credo got his power by going through the Ascension Ceremony to become a demon. He wasn't born with it, so no, Kyrie doesn't have any powers. She's just a normal human.
If we wanna say that Dante and vergils devil side feed on their human biology, it takes 4-6 weeks for a human body to replenish or replace all of its blood cells. Dante is 44 and vergils should be around the same. Every year the human body replaced its blood around 8.3 times, so Dante and vergils devil side have fed on the equivalent of 381 humans. That may not sound like a lot, but this is a constant symbiotic feeding whereas devils normally I would imagine go long stretches of time between feeding on humans.
The Mirage Edge is Vergil combining his Motivation with his ability to avoid paying for Child Support
So talented
Where is your motivation, Dante? You believe you can defeat a Son of Sparda without motivation? You really are a fool.
@@VergilSparda-gz3kl calm down
@@Tha-mountain alright
@@DigitaltYT i thinked he is 12d level
Little did we know that vergil is so powerful that he can summon a white chair.
I hope so or he could slice the ground with yamato, so qliphoth tree crawl out and form itself a chair for Vergil...
He summons the white plastic chair and has a hurricane blow over him so he can get motivated
If Virgil does end up returning in DMC 6, I really hope he has a taunt where he sits in a chair
Alabama all over again
Not only was he exhausted, but he was merely measuring Nero's power and strength to which Nero did successfully display enough to earn his Father's respect
I been said this because whenever both vergil and dante the do damage to the other even arkham was able to handle them
Well, no. He wasn't just testing or "measuring" Nero. He was actually trying to beat him. He said it himself.
@@kin4386 sure he was trying to “beat him” he wasn’t taking it as nearly as seriously as Nero. He was just trying to feel how strong his son was while Nero was fighting like if he didn’t win his remaining family was gonna die. While Vergil was trying to “win” he was just trying to toss Nero aside, not kill him immobilize.
@@Gxmb1t "If I beat Nero, then by default I beat you. Agreed, Dante?"
That's all I need to say. That and is "I can still fight." after he lost. Clearly showing that he didn't wanna take that defeat. And the "I won't lose next time." as if to imply he now has a score to settle. Someone "Not taking it seriously" would not add those kinds of comments. He was trying his best to beat Nero, and couldn't. It's as simple as that.
In terms of actually powers along I agree peak vergil could have beaten Nero but that's not the point. It's meant to represent Dante and vergil's time ending by the fact that Nero now has enough strength to protect the earth.
Top 10 DMC characters:
10. The Alpha
9. The Dark Slayer
8. The Nefarious Usurper
7. Urizen
6. The Mysterious One
5. V
4. The Black Angel
3. Nelo Angelo
2. The Omega
1. Vergil
I sense a theme
You forgot Gilver
@@socialbreak8620 it was vergil
@@poprostukacper821 Originally Vergil but after DMC3 they made Gilver as an Impostor that has a database of Vergil and Dante
You forgot alpha at three right before omega leading to Vergil
The funny tax evasion man
The dummy thicc man who is trying to fight demons but the clap of his ass cheeks keep alerting them
That's Dante, Vergil is the child support evader.
😳
He evades child support more
@@snoote533 yeah that’s more accurate
2:36 correction Yamato wasn't absorb back into nero arm at the time it was Just his strength alone that did it
source?
@@thisaintrandom6754 it is absorbed. He only gave back the Sparda to Dante in the cutscene before fighting the Savior again.
@@jedy5658 oh alright ty
btw i missread it as vergil absorbing neros arm im so sorry 😭😭😭
I agree, Vergil had Yamato throughout the entire game, even in their final cutscene. Nero finally unlocked his ( I guess) full potential and gained a bonus. But yeah, that was his own power.
Mans didn’t even touch on Vergil’s abilities and techniques either😭(Summmined swords, Doppleganger, his vanish/teleportation, etc), Vergil is literally the embodiment of power
True but Him and Dante have the exact same abilities... One uses ad the other don't over preference. Like Dante can send out energy swords like Virgil but chooses Ebony ad Ivory for sentimental reasons
@@frederickdawson2253i think the bullet ebony and ivory uses are enchanted by dante
*Judgement Cut End*
@@frederickdawson2253It’s not for sentimental reasons, look at what Ebony and Ivory did to Argosax in dmc 2, those aren’t just regular pistols….
Yea, DMC 5 massively increased the cosmology of DMC, not to mention giving Dante and Vergil immeasurable speed since Dante casually outmatches the ripper demons that can travel across the infinite sized underworld in a day
Actually DMC was already at that speed scaling before. Pinnacle of Combat solidified the argument to its most blatant statements to where if you try to disagree with it, you are just in denial at this point.
@@RedDusk369 turn out Argosax/Despair embodied already have that shit way before PoC.
Moving across endless space in finite time is called infinite speed. Immeasurable is being able to move through time with only speed
@@manicrhymes9552 Pluto is stated to be fast enough to bypass axis of time with his sheer speed alone, Reaper only his lackeys though got infinite speed.
@@RedDusk369thank you for being in the 5% of DMC fans who understand that the 9D actually existed prior to PoC, all it did was solidify the evidence of DMC’s 9D potential. Respect
A man once told me, "Vergil is badass". That must mean he is unstoppable.
It’s true.
Vergil is peak
Yes
I also definitely think Vergil was reluctantly fighting Nero and didn't really want to embarrass his mostly human son. The way he tried to get him to stand down from the fight and the way he said "Nero..." like the secretly concerned father he is makes me believe he took it easy on his son.
We don't know what Nero's mother is, she could be, human, Demon, Angel or a hybrid of any or all 3. So you can't call Nero mostly Human cause we don't know.
@@santinogoring8860 the angels in devil may cry, doesn't exist. Confirmed for Hideki Itsuno. But, who knows, maybe he lied.
@@ivangomezperez1481 they did in DMC Devil May Cry, and to freshen up the story and do something new now would be the best time to introduce them for DMC 6 or they can do DMC Devil May Cry 2 or or both
@@ivangomezperez1481 aren't "angels" a synthetic demons in devil may cry 4?
@@santinogoring8860 dmc devil may cry isn't on this timeline, so I don't think she was an angel. Dante and the other demons kept mentioning he didn't have any power, so I don't think she was a demon.
Vergil:the manifestation of fuck around and find out.
The fact that his subtitle in DMC5 is "The Alpha and The Omega" legit made me think he's a god
Well, canonically, Vergil can make a comically large Mirage Blade to slice the sun or just a single Judgment Cut~
Bruh, Dante and Vergil are low multiversal level and some believe high complex multiverse (l don't think they are that powerful) but still, even a planetary level guy is a god since he can wipe out the whole existence of a species. 🤣
Dante is the omega and Vergil is the alpha…
He neither a god or demon. He is the storm that is approaching and he is MOTIVATED
vergil was also not fighting to kill nero. he was visibly interested and curious with nero. he also was testing nero and so it stands to reason that vergil, in addition to being weakened, was also not taking the fight as seriously as he did with dante.
Roses are Red,
Violets are Blue,
*Easy Mode Is Now Selectable,*
*Do You Wish To Continue?*
*Steal a soul for a second chance, but you'll never become a man.*
*Cut to Patrick Bovin screaming in rage.*
Saying Yamato isn't the most powerful katana sounds like an offensive joke to Vergil lol
😂fr
I agree with this comment. I am insulted by the fact that the Yamato was considered the least powerful katana. If you think it is the most powerful, you must be a little motivated.
@@VergilSparda-gz3kl yo vergil ...your portal opening days are over , give me the yamato
If you want it, then you’ll have to take it. But you already knew that.
Had a feeling you'd say that.
One thing to note, the nightmare familiar along with the rest of his brethren aren't as strong as their original counterparts, they are just memories of them after all. However it is stated that Nightmare could've beaten Urizen by himself if he could be out for as long as he wished, so who's to say.
That statement refered to urizen(at his birth) when he just got Split from vergil... So it's long before he got empowered by the Qliphoth at the begining of dmc5. V and urizen were born at the same time from vergil So V could evaluate urizen's power at that Time, that's why he thought Dante could beat urizen as he remember Dante's power on Mallet Island in dmc1.
@@bricelandarSo that means that Vergil's Demonic side was as strong as Dmc1 Dante with Sparda equipped.... Which means a crippled, dying Vergil could dunk on Mundus...
@@NamesSmegyeah it was stated that Vergil during dmc 3 could definitely defeat Mundus if he wasn't weakened after fighting Dante.
Just something I wanted to note, but since demon souls are 9d in dmc (as mentioned in the video), all the weapons that are able to kill demons should logically have 9d AP. Meaning that mirage edge is definitely not the strongest weapon in dmc. I personally think it’s a tie between DSD and Yamato.
To note that Yamato and DSD are technically parts of Sparta TRUE devil sword as in one of the note in DMC5 that Sparta split his power into 3 part one holding his name (devil sword sparta) 1 his power (Yamato) and rebellion
@@weebslegacy I dont think there is a true devil sword sparda, sparda being described creating the 3 swords was worded to make it seem he forged them out of his own power, not another sword.
I don't think that's how it works. Humans are killed when thier physical body dies, even if nothing happens to their souls. Demons are probably the same, considering that normal humans like Lady and Nico can hurt and kill demons.
In the video, it has no mention of demon souls being 9th dimensional, and even so, you just need to kill the body, which 3d weapons can do. Time stamp for reference 3:08
@@stupidcouchfellonme Yeah but, dante and vergil and nero are half human though, so they would be atleast... half 9th dimensional? lmao.
this is the true power of not paying child support and no wonder nero is so strong, he never receive child support.
On a similar note about Mirage Edge Nero being able to make a 'mirage' Yamato is really awesome it really shows that he really is his Father's Son he even has space cutting effects but only visually as far as I know
Fun fact DMC 5 archives tell that sparda split his power into the 3 swords rebellion , force edge and Yamato
So even the swords themselves have more power than most of the characters in pop culture
I think you’re forgetting that both the Rebellion and Yamato are both extensions of their respective owner’s demonic energy, which is directly connected to their soul. Even if it weren’t connected to the soul, it still would be connected to energy that can preform soul erasure on these 9D-10D beings.
I do think it’s funny that Nico is surprised by this at all considering both summon swords and the fact that Mundus CREATED 2 UNIVERSES CASUALLY.
Aren't both Yamato and Rebellion heirlooms passed down by Sparda to his sons?
@@EternalVirgin Sparda split his energy into three swords, The Sparda, the Rebellion, and the Yamato.
That's a big reason why Dante got such a massive power boost when he unlocked Sin Devil Trigger, he absorbed two of those swords into himself.
@@moonmelonsWhile Urizen (Vergil's demon side) consumed the qlipoth fruit which gave Urizen power on the same level or even stronger than Mundus. And once V combines with Urizen, his true power was finally unleashed that allowed him to match Dante equally.
The child support evader, and still to this day does not have to pay it since he’s stuck in hell with Dante, which was his master plan all along
Let's not forget that while on the verge of death when you play as Vergil in DMC5, there's a cutscene where he's confronted by a couple of demons, and he just swiftly cuts them down with no effort.
I found a piece of information, Vergil himself ripped off Nero’s arm that was considered indestructible
Well vergil is not called the alpha and omega for nothing sure...
aaaand the Storm that is approaching too
practically jumped when i saw you posted this. great video once again. i hadn't even considered that the mirage edge was so powerful because of the 9D scaling before. and vergil was not only tired from fighting dante previously, but he was also most likely testing his son's strength. he's much more passive in his fight with nero than he is in his fight with dante. also i've seen the argument that vergil has immeasurable speed but i honestly think it could go either way between inaccessible and immeasurable. but that would also mean that same speed scaling applies to dante since he'd naturally have to be almost a complete equal to vergil stat wise.
Vergil cut his son arm off and started murdering an entire town.
He has a secret ability named
Judgement nut
He transcended his own series and inspired every 3 fight rival from then on. Definitely a god.
vergil is my favorite character in dmc
i always believed that vergil made his doppelganger in the same manner he made his mirage edge.
so in my head cannon i believed vergil simply made a much stronger version of his normal summoned swords and with the same technique he made his doppelganger so he can should be able to make things like spears bows maces and even an armor around him kinda like suasuke with his susano
on another note i believe that the last fight in dmc 5 was much much more than just a fight. vergil says if i BEAT nero i beat you agreed dante ? he didnt intend to kill he just wanted to see how strong nero actually is and all nero wanted to do was to protect his new found family and dante knew this so he just let the two of them fight as in the family of sparda fighting is the best form of bonding
vergil wanted someone to protect and love him then nero comes and says no one is dying today and i believe that made vergil change. he began to trust and love nero and accept him as his son. he gave him his book as a sign of acceptance trust.
i'm sure vergil could absolutely shred nero but it was not the point. i'm just glad that nero made vergil and dante stop hating each other and brought them peace. he got his seal of approval from dante and vergil and in the end he became a great character with a lot of growth and is a fan favorite now. capcom really did him good
hope to see the family of sparda unite one more time to kill mundus for good
I agree, I think Vergil vs Nero fight was, in a very sparda way, father and son bonding, not an actual serious battle.
Wonderful interpretation!
3:14 This could be wrong because even something like 2D to 3D is a beyond infinite distance apart in terms of scale. Not even an infinite amount of 2D objects stacked on top of each other would make a 3D object because that’s like trying to reach one by adding zeros/literally nothing. The distance is not infinite, but inaccessible, as in not even an infinite amount of infinites will allow a lower dimensional object to become a higher dimensional object.
Ok then, I thought Anos' sword was powerful but now understanding how powerful Vergil is, Venuzdonoa is a toothpick in comparison
Bro even Rimuru is a cannon fodder for Sparda family and Rimuru(WN ver and LN ver,LN ver is more powerful than WN ver) can beat Anos easily.
I find it hard to believe that nero was stronger than dante in dmc4 or 5. Dante treated him like fodder that whole game.
Nero only stronger than Dante in only Dmc4 There is multiple stated so many Times dante admit himself that Nero is stronger than him, when Dante and Nero in their second fight dante say that Nero wasn't pullings his Punch yet, he wasn't like holding back. So it means that Nero could be possibly stronger and insane potential in Devil may Cry so Dante doesn't seen like he treated him like fodder.
Nero was definitely stronger in DMC4 but lacks the control and experience that Dante had so Dante just plays around and taught nero to make mistakes heck Dante could stop the savoir punch but nero could out right push it back
You realize he has the potential to be stronger than both of them? He didn't even know he could get his arm back, really its just lack of experience
He was only SPECULATED to be stronger physically. As in pure strength. His demonic power and overall power was and still is nowhere near Dantes.
@DarkSlayer487 see I even find THAT hard to believe cause Dante caught nero's punches. And nero was trying to pull his arm away with all his might, Dante wasn't even budging. Dante played with nero that whole game.
You actually managed to humble me on some of my scaling. That being that I totally forgot about the mirage bosses being metaphysical and that the originals scale above them making them above metaphysical which ofcourse is absurd but actually makes a ton of sense and is very balanced.
Just trying my best to share what each of these characters are capable of. 😊
@@DigitaltYT oh trust me as a fan of the games, novels,and scaling I know these guys are absurd but damn I underestimated just how important the mirages were for scaling!
I can just imagine security popping saying
"We heard of reports of someone swinging a dangerous sharp weapon in the middle of the line"
Afterwards
"False alarm, just the badass storm passing through" 😂
All I know is that since I first saw Vergil in DMC3 he instantly became my favorite video game character.
Same~
@@DianaProudmoorehow tight are you?
@@NepalAversionincel
@@shepardcommander5174 I’m not like you bruh, don’t call me that
@@NepalAversion incel
I remember someone phrasing Dante, Vergil and Nero's power as "jonesying on their own human blood" and it lives in my head rent free
I've waited so long for this vid.
Hope you enjoyed it. I'm going to sleep now
@@DigitaltYT ok good night
He's Heimdall in God of War Ragnarok. But calm, collective, and silent version.
Dante fighting V's familiars in lore: one sided slaughter
Dante fighting V's familiars in game: rage inducing hour long agony
damn I've never thought Vergil is that strong
The DMC characters are crazy powerful. There are some feats that Dante has done that put him in a very powerful category…
Me neither ...but not stronger than dante
@@therewillbehaters1678 i dont know the feats of dante can you explain?
@@UmarEdits_27 Defeated the demon king Mundus who simultaneously created another dimension just to fight Dante.
*defeated the demon called nightmare. Who was created by Mundus as a weapon. It is said that nightmare was so incredibly strong. He could lift the entire demon realm, ( the demon realm has its own universe). That puts nightmare in the infinite strength category and Dante easily beat that thing.
*Defeated Pluto. Pluto was the first demon king who can travel and bypass the dimensional axis of the time stream with sheer speed. That puts Pluto at immeasurable speed and Dante managed to beat him.
*Defeated Argosax. It was said that Argosax was equal to Mundus and his mere presence alone was combining the demon realm and the human realm together.
*the dimensionality scaling of the demon realm. It is said that demons (even the weak ones) in dmc are actually 9th dimensional (note: the higher the dimensionality the more powerful that character is), putting them in a low complex multiversal. That’s really powerful if you think about it. However due to the events that happened in dmc 5, Where Dante achieved sin devil trigger. In which tripled is powers fully. Dante is now high complex multiversal, putting him in the 11th dimensional category.
@@therewillbehaters1678 alright thank you!
May I just say that I love your videos! You explain everything very well. You earned a new sub!
Yay! Thanks for the compliment
@@DigitaltYT no problem! 👍
“…Vergil is on the verge…”
Hah! Well done.
Hes called the alpha and the omega in dmc5. Hes literally a god
I see Vergil as a dad that wants to escape child support
That's why Dante tells him his portal opening days are over /s
Guess he wasn’t called the alpha and omega for nothing
Still doubtful Vergil was even tired fighting Nero, if this was the case he wouldn’t even be able to stay in SDT for 3/4ths of the boss fight like he does in game.
he def saw Nero as his way out of having to kill Dante and conceding. Unlike his brother he didn’t want to kill eachother, Vergil knows what it means to be human now, but still can’t talk it out like a normal person lol.
And besides at the start of M20 you can hear Vergils voice break when talking to Nero, ashamed of almost putting Nero on the same path as him.
Vergil was about to kill Dante and could have possibly killed Nero also because Vergil said he could still fight, but would rather stop the qliphoth from spreading.
If he really didn't wanted to fight dante then he could stopped in the exact moment he was complete again, he had the oportunity since dante was tired to the point of clash swords and vergil only using one hand to push. Dante even goes and says "come on vergil, lets end this" or something similar, giving to vergil the oportunity to say "ok". But instead of stop fighting, he incentives dante to rest and get strong and then fight in more equal conditions.
@@adriansaavedra3050 Nah, in visions of v the canon manga, v in vergils head asks vergil if he really wants to kill dante, vergil responds with no, v asks why, and vergil responds with, "because i like fighting with my brother", so dead ass canonically dante was trying to kill vergil, and vergil wasnt trying to kill dante for once.
@@hectorcofrevaldes8501 In Visions of V, the moment right before the clash in Vergils mind, V tells Vergil that his brother is wanting to play again like when the were kids. IMO that shows Vergil had a different idea of their clash.
Dante had gone mad over hearing the name Vergil and almost even went DT bc of how pissed he got hearing the name Vergil. It shows to me that over the years, Dante had grown to hate Vergil irrationally, as going as far as striking him down immediately as soon as reforming, even V was afraid of this when considering revealing his true identity. Same would go for Vergil bc I mean let’s face it, god knows how long trapped in Hell and the only thing you’re left with is hate of the person who stopped you from having it all last second.
But V changed that, and instead of going to family therapy and talking it out, Vergil thought this was the only way to talk to him, like when they were kids.
Vergil is not that Debt, he wanted to end this rivalry, even told dante if he beat nero that means he is stronger than Dante, yet nero won.
"Vergil was tied" no he wasnt, he and Dante were about to BEGIN their true fight, the SIN DT for fuck sake
I hate how fanboys just boil down fights as NUMBERS battle. never about circutances, experiences, set of abilities, of the surroundings at the time no none of that, I'm not saying that Nero suddenly just became stronger than both, no, he just had the abilities he needed to beat Vergil and vergil only has Yamato he does not have his other weapons and he fighting style is very rigid, while nero as dante can adapt.
Canonwise Nero never beat Dante once, even in 4 after his boss fight Dante is not taking nero seriously, he doesn't even DT but Vergil Does and Nero also finally gets his own DT, he is finally almost fighting the Sparta Brothers on the same playfield, but Nero DT is nothing like Dante's or Vergil's, heck neither saw it coming, as result Nero had everything he needed to Win that fight.
Is that simple.
Yo Vergil is scale to high complex multiversal man
“This was a momento left to Vergil by his daddy Sparda” gotta assume sparda went to buy milk and never came back since
His chair is only building up his power as we speak its impossible to stop virgil at this point from the sheer power of the plastic chair.
Truly a character of all time 🍷🗿
yes
Vergil did Nero dirty ngl, by splitting the demon arm (yamato) not only from his muscles but from the very bones too like a FUKING PAPER BRO?!
clean quick and efficient fatherly love for a path of self discovery of inner power, what a loving guy
7:35 "Fair fight"
I had to use double digits of gold orbs to get through his nightmares
If death battle makes another match for Vergil
Make sure they see this video
Such a good video!
I remember when I watched it a while ago.
Still lovely
@DigitaltYT Good video, but I do have a couple of criticisms. For one, you mistakenly assume that because human soul=9D construct that suddenly Mirage Edge is the strongest weapon in the series, but this is inaccurate for you fail to draw attention to the fact that demons far weaker then Vergil even in DMC3 are either transformed human souls or have feats of being able to destroy human souls. Secondly, DMC3 Lore and PoC lore reveal that human souls are generated by the Nirvana realms within the DW (seen in DMC3's final levels) which in turn places the Demonworld above souls (ad infinitum) in superiority, not to mention the Qliphoth tree at its apex (with the fruit having both human and demonic energies) which as we learn in DMC5 info, the artbook, and VoV quite literally imagined reality (both the DW and HW and possibly the larger DMC multiverse mentioned within DMC Volume 2 depending on how you construe the quote) places current Vergil so far above 9D human souls he may as well be 10 or 11D. Furthermore, Vergil pumps demonic energy through his weapons in much the same way Dante does through his guns (to give the easiest example) so all his weapons would scale as high as him relatively and the Yamato is his main and strongest weapon in his arsenal. Hence, why he uses it so often and even though Mirage Edge is a personification of his soul that doesn't necessarily make it that special in comparison to his other weapons since human souls as a scaling measure were surpassed even by DMC3 Vergil, let alone DMC5 Vergil. In either case, a good vid, just missing on a few context issues that weren't addressed in its usage of certain lore quotes.
The strongest weapon is definitely the hair product Vergil uses...
Shoulda used the plastic chair mod for the background footage ngl
*Takes 70 hits to kill an enemy*
it depends on the demon and monsters in Mundus King, in fact the same thing as Dante and Nero, killing demons and monsters takes a long time to kill, in fact, Vergil and Dante and Nero in dm5 prisisa 5 hit 10 hit or 20 hit
I wonder what's more terrifying: The guy that becomes the best through sheer effort and unbendable will, or the one that matches that guy by atudying 10 minutes before the test?
The fact that Dante can quickly match Vergil despite not having an unquenchable thirst for power, even when Vergil pretty much spends his every waking moment getting as much power as he possibly can, is a twreifying testament to just how stupidly OP Dante is.
If Dante put in half the effort that Vergil does in gaining power, Vergil would have zero chance in defeating him. Lol. I guess he's lucky that Dante's nature is so lax and aloof.
In fairness it’s not like Dante stagnates I’m pretty sure him just fighting demons constantly makes him stronger despite his drive not being on Vergils level
I need to know what position sparda used to get a son like Vergil. For motivational perpouses.
Dante still laying on the floor throughout the whole vergil and nero fight confirms just how weakened and exhausted vergil and dante were due to their battle. Nero is not even on mundus level yet
The mirage edge is so powerful because you can stinger in the air
In regards to Vergil's fight against Nero at the end of DMC5, not only was Vergil already weakened from fighting Dante, but he also wasn't fighting Nero seriously. He had been made aware of the fact that Nero was his son already, and this fight was his way of getting a measure of Nero's potential. It was more of a sparring match than a battle to the death, and Vergil getting pushed back was a result of Nero surpassing Vergil's expectations. While Nero is still far, far weaker than Vergil at this point, Nero does well enough to earn his father's respect, which is probably why Vergil decides to team up with Dante to fix the mess that he had created even though moments earlier he didn't really care about the consequences and simply was after power at any cost. His change of heart was a result of him doing his son a favor.
As an aside, everyone jokes about Vergil being a deadbeat dad, but the guy legit didn't even know he had a son until Dante told him. He had no deep connection to Nero's mother, and Nero's conception was probably the result of a one night stand in a clouded night of passion during which a very unlucky condom was unable to defeat Vergil's power.
I don't think Condoms exist in this series. So little sex happens.
@@NamesSmeg That would probably be because it's a shonen action game and not a porno. That, and Dante's the president of the virgin forever club eating pizza alone in the dark.
@@Crow_Rising I think he gave up on women in 3. He even admits he has no luck with women.
I am INCREDIBLY curious about Nero's mom ever since someone proposed she could have some sort of priestess relation, hence Nero's devil trigger looking more "angelic" than his relatives
@@dhampir_days Pretty much everyone from where Nero grew up worships the same religion in which they worship Sparda as if he were a god. It's for that very reason that Vergil was investigating the place to begin with. The details of how he met Nero's mother and what exactly happened between them are not very clear right now, but if she was any kind of priestess it definitely wasn't anything truly holy that she was worshipping.
My speculation on the matter is that Nero's DT looks the way it does because in regards to blood, he's got more concentrated humanity than either Dante or Vergil. As the grandson of Sparda and the son of Vergil, he's got a lot more human DNA than demon DNA, which hypothetically might bring him slightly "closer to god" than Dante and Vergil. Depending on how much the series chooses to borrow from Judaism, Islam, and Christianity, the difference between an angel and a demon might be a much more blurry line than someone might expect.
Ayyeeeee lesssgo!!!! I feel a storm approaching
Vergil is neither a demon nor a god. Vergil is *MOTIVATED*
He is both, no. Not a god or a demon. He both motivated chef and child support evasive master.
Im actually using Vergil in a crossverse tournament this week. Gonna be pretty wild!
Feel free to share how that goes!
him literally every every 2 min " did yall know that dante said nero is stronger than him"
The Pale King and Vergil have one thing in common, they will not pay child support, no matter whoever the IRS sends
God Vergil is so cool UGH HE JUST OOZES IT
He's neither demon nor a god..He's just a storm that is approaching.
The fact that Vergil is so powerfull that can avoid taxes and paying child support truly shines in this game.
I remember that V , Urizen , and Nelo Angelo are just different forms of vergil , it could mean that he has their powers also
you do realize we see vergil and dante fight later down the line right?
man i hope there is a comic where vergil and nero's relationship is explored just as a rebellous teen who secretly yearns for his father and a father who always tries to buy milk from the farthest store.
Thumbnail: "Demon or a god?"
In the words of Tony Stark: "Is it too much to ask for both?"
Vergil in SDT- “Jackpot”
All I know about Vergil is that he is the storm that is approaching.
You will not forget this devil’s power
I dunno, I think pretty highly of Vergil, let's see...
I dunno, I think in "metaphysical" terms, the soul, anyone's soul is very powerful, even if we are felled by bullets and blades, but Yamato, like any good mcguffin, or weapon for a warrior, is like a conduit that can channel the spirit and amplify them both, so is ultimately, stronger than soul-edge, I mean, force-edge. By feats and mystery alone. Utility is a factor people underestimate in value as opposed to raw potential. And in a game with a million tools for a million jobs, no one devils arm can solve them all (as good as Yamato can).
Is Sparda and the other casts stronger than we think?
No Sparda is weaker than we think because he sealed the other demons in the underworld instead of just killing them all like Dante could effortlessly
Spada is dumb weak (DMC universe wise) , which makes their story of him that more intriguing cause he's revered as a legend in terms of strength and deeds among demons and mortals but Dante and Vergil surpassed him soo long ago...in DMC 3 they confirmed. So Nero by default is also stronger than him.
I hate taxes
Based~
I Vergil agree with this statement Vergil
just by watching this video it already motivated me to play the game again
Yay!
The biggest plot armor nero has gotten that nero's sword had survived against dante's sword and vergi's sword
Neither a demon nor a god, but a motivation
Identical twin to Dante!
I misunderstand the SDT from Vergil, can you make a Video about this?
that thumbnail tho
It's from visions of v manga
yo love this one but just a small criticism if that's alright, maybe u could simplify some of ur lines just to get to the point quicker? helps a lot and can help prevent stuttering
Thanks for the feedback!
@@DigitaltYT no problem, love ur work
I love DMC and I love the three of them. There are some out there who keep saying that Vergil and Dante aren't even country level. I can prove them wrong now.
Can't wait to see Nero's lineage, Kyrie must have some sort of power too since her brother had some of his own.
Credo got his power by going through the Ascension Ceremony to become a demon.
He wasn't born with it, so no, Kyrie doesn't have any powers. She's just a normal human.
ok
All three of them are FAR stronger than anyone thinks
I saw him play for Liverpool FC. He's a monster.
The power creep.
If we wanna say that Dante and vergils devil side feed on their human biology, it takes 4-6 weeks for a human body to replenish or replace all of its blood cells. Dante is 44 and vergils should be around the same. Every year the human body replaced its blood around 8.3 times, so Dante and vergils devil side have fed on the equivalent of 381 humans. That may not sound like a lot, but this is a constant symbiotic feeding whereas devils normally I would imagine go long stretches of time between feeding on humans.
Interesting detail true sparda sword never appear in dmc because true sword is separate in 3 parts its rebellion, yamato and edge
Thank you very much for this wonderful video, but can you make a video about the power of death in Darksiders and Dante can defeat death?
Got it on the list
Maybe next you can explain about dmc demon, they is strong.
Like fury who can use little dimension jump to get that speed.
I forget, but I believe I mention fury specifically in my Dante video. Unless you meant something else.