I added music as an example of how underscoring can work with an early talkie. I believe that, had underscoring fully developed by this period, a score would've been created for this film. I'm sorry you don't like it, but most people really enjoy it.
Yes, I did notice the change in makeup also. I assumed most of it was supposed to reflect the burn damage the monster suffered in the fire; but when comparing the Bride makeup to the original, it DOES seem less scary; less like the look of a "dead man". I'd love to see some of that footage, though.
@80111live Yep, you got it. I think Pierce added also that taking the original brain out of the head through the top also would've collapsed the top of the head (thereby making it easy to switch brains, etc.).
Yeah, I remember reading about Mar's death. I can't believe that Peter Lorre was actually considered for the role of Wolf Frankenstein! Maybe in some ways it would have been appropriate if the producers had gone for a creepier, maybe more insecure portrayal, but I have trouble envisioning it lol. I think the shoes were made out of wood blocks nailed to tall, custom soles using stud rivets, weren't they? I remember reading that they weighed about 20-25 lbs each!
Well, actually, the only ones I knew about were the glowing cross and the image of Colin Clive still in the shot when the tower is destroyed (did you ever think to ask why they would have a lever in the lab that could "blow them all to atoms"? lol). Is the footage you mentioned on the DVD or Blu-Ray version? But it really is a weird movie, isn't it? Those little people Praetorius created in the jars, and that lightning bolt hairdo on the Bride...
I thought the music was perfect for the movie. My 10 year old son saw Frakenweenie last night and I explained to him the premise for it; so he wanted to see what Frankenstein looked liked. Your clip was the one we clicked on. I have to say, being 47, I had no idea the music did not belong! Well done...
No, I don't think you were harsh; other considerations aside (and there are good scenes in the film), it's supposed to be about the monster, and they took it away from that character in this film. I also like Lionel Atwill (remember the parody scene in Young Frankenstein with Kenneth Mars doing a spoof of this performance? Hilarious!).
@80111live I get it, "scared green" lol; not sure I agree with that opinion of theirs, though. Anyway, I think it was Bette Davis for the fiancee part, wasn't it? And don't ask where, but somewhere I remember hearing that Lionel Atwill was the original choice for the doctor, Let me down easy, okay? lol...
@80111live Now that I've never known; I assumed it was careful application of makeup to areas of Karloff's face that were already a little gaunt and sunken. Btw, I'm almost sure you know this, but the Monster's makeup was actually light green. Have you seen the short color test footage on here from Son of Frankenstein showing Karloff in the green makeup?
@80111live No, I didn't; why was that? Maybe because no one would recognize him anyway, and they wanted to keep the identity secret? I know they put a big question mark in the credits with reference to who played the role, so...
@80111live Well, at least I got Bette Davis right; I know the man giving the stage introduction to Frankenstein is the actor who played Van Helsing in Dracula, but I can't recall his name.
No, I just got a little too busy to email; I would've loved to have seen Lugosi's take on that role; about the only thing I really liked about Son of Frankenstein was Lugosi as Igor.
Hmmm, interesting; sounds like Whale could be a little hateful sometimes. I assume you've seen Gods and Monsters, the biopic of Whale's later life, with Ian McKellan playing the role of Whale?
@80111live Septimus huh? Interesting. I just watched Bride of Frankenstein again; does he give his full name in the film at some point (I didn't notice it)? I read that he was gay in Roger Ebert's "The Great Movies"; he may have been incorrect, though. I have no idea what Whale might have called Karloff, but considering that he found him dull and thought his social background was laughable, I'd say maybe a "peasant". Am I close?
@80111live Hmmmm; well I'm going to try not to cheat and look it up LOL; was it Murders of the Rue Morgue? Or just to cheat a little bit, maybe The Bat or The Body Snatchers?
Maybe Claude Rains or William Powell? For some reason I also want to say Charles Boyer, but I know that can't be right. Yes, I agree, the monster became a prop in this film, to serve as nothing but the one-dimensional villain. There were good moments, but I'm glad Karloff ended it with this one (he also developed severe back and leg trouble from those huge prop shoes, didn't he?).
@80111live Well, I did know he was gay, and played the role very campy and vampy (not that all gay men are female impersonators). Was his first name Ian?
Thank you so much for your feedback. I'm glad to hear you enjoyed the clip!
I added music as an example of how underscoring can work with an early talkie. I believe that, had underscoring fully developed by this period, a score would've been created for this film. I'm sorry you don't like it, but most people really enjoy it.
Long Live Frankenstein & His Bride!!!!
Yes, I did notice the change in makeup also. I assumed most of it was supposed to reflect the burn damage the monster suffered in the fire; but when comparing the Bride makeup to the original, it DOES seem less scary; less like the look of a "dead man". I'd love to see some of that footage, though.
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@80111live
Yep, you got it. I think Pierce added also that taking the original brain out of the head through the top also would've collapsed the top of the head (thereby making it easy to switch brains, etc.).
Yeah, I remember reading about Mar's death. I can't believe that Peter Lorre was actually considered for the role of Wolf Frankenstein! Maybe in some ways it would have been appropriate if the producers had gone for a creepier, maybe more insecure portrayal, but I have trouble envisioning it lol. I think the shoes were made out of wood blocks nailed to tall, custom soles using stud rivets, weren't they? I remember reading that they weighed about 20-25 lbs each!
Well, actually, the only ones I knew about were the glowing cross and the image of Colin Clive still in the shot when the tower is destroyed (did you ever think to ask why they would have a lever in the lab that could "blow them all to atoms"? lol). Is the footage you mentioned on the DVD or Blu-Ray version? But it really is a weird movie, isn't it? Those little people Praetorius created in the jars, and that lightning bolt hairdo on the Bride...
I thought the music was perfect for the movie. My 10 year old son saw Frakenweenie last night and I explained to him the premise for it; so he wanted to see what Frankenstein looked liked. Your clip was the one we clicked on. I have to say, being 47, I had no idea the music did not belong! Well done...
Thank you!!!
No, I don't think you were harsh; other considerations aside (and there are good scenes in the film), it's supposed to be about the monster, and they took it away from that character in this film. I also like Lionel Atwill (remember the parody scene in Young Frankenstein with Kenneth Mars doing a spoof of this performance? Hilarious!).
Thank You
Nicely done; trivia question: does anyone know why the Monster's head is flat?
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RIP Mary Shelley
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@80111live
Whew! Thanks, that was driving me nuts, and I refused to look it up!
Happy Haunting!!!!
Yeah, I did; I never knew anybody else noticed that!
@80111live
I get it, "scared green" lol; not sure I agree with that opinion of theirs, though. Anyway, I think it was Bette Davis for the fiancee part, wasn't it? And don't ask where, but somewhere I remember hearing that Lionel Atwill was the original choice for the doctor, Let me down easy, okay? lol...
@80111live
Now that I've never known; I assumed it was careful application of makeup to areas of Karloff's face that were already a little gaunt and sunken. Btw, I'm almost sure you know this, but the Monster's makeup was actually light green. Have you seen the short color test footage on here from Son of Frankenstein showing Karloff in the green makeup?
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@80111live
No, I didn't; why was that? Maybe because no one would recognize him anyway, and they wanted to keep the identity secret? I know they put a big question mark in the credits with reference to who played the role, so...
Ditto!
@80111live
Well, at least I got Bette Davis right; I know the man giving the stage introduction to Frankenstein is the actor who played Van Helsing in Dracula, but I can't recall his name.
GNARLY!!!!
GOLLY!!!!
@cstoczyn - i guess eventually,but he wasn't when the leader of the chase was yelling in the woods ,"Frankenstein !,Frankenstein where are you"?
No, I just got a little too busy to email; I would've loved to have seen Lugosi's take on that role; about the only thing I really liked about Son of Frankenstein was Lugosi as Igor.
This Is Filmed In 1930
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Hmmm, interesting; sounds like Whale could be a little hateful sometimes. I assume you've seen Gods and Monsters, the biopic of Whale's later life, with Ian McKellan playing the role of Whale?
Mary Shelley Should See This Halloween Movie!
"Run Boris Run!!!!!!!! "
@westnblu RIGHT!
Frankenstein ! Frankenstein where are you ?
@80111live
Septimus huh? Interesting. I just watched Bride of Frankenstein again; does he give his full name in the film at some point (I didn't notice it)? I read that he was gay in Roger Ebert's "The Great Movies"; he may have been incorrect, though. I have no idea what Whale might have called Karloff, but considering that he found him dull and thought his social background was laughable, I'd say maybe a "peasant". Am I close?
@80111live
Hmmmm; well I'm going to try not to cheat and look it up LOL; was it Murders of the Rue Morgue? Or just to cheat a little bit, maybe The Bat or The Body Snatchers?
Maybe Claude Rains or William Powell? For some reason I also want to say Charles Boyer, but I know that can't be right. Yes, I agree, the monster became a prop in this film, to serve as nothing but the one-dimensional villain. There were good moments, but I'm glad Karloff ended it with this one (he also developed severe back and leg trouble from those huge prop shoes, didn't he?).
RIP Boris Karloff
LOL; no, it didn't catch that one. I did hear him crunching bones, though; I thought he was just eating the chicken whole.
HUZZAH!!!!
Scary, Isn't It?
Spooky, Isn't It?
For some reason, John Barrymore comes to mind.
Heavens to Betsy!
Long Live Mary Shelley!!!!
BOO!!!!
GADZOOKS!!!!
@mikeyaaa IDK
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@80111live
Well, I did know he was gay, and played the role very campy and vampy (not that all gay men are female impersonators). Was his first name Ian?
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@redwing46901 Poor Frankenstein
we used this tactic on our bosses to get a payrise
@charvesa MMM HMM
Me Neither
@joeysn7hvn HE'S DEAD!!!!
Creepy, Isn't It?
@MrRonnie28 Haha, very funny
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@rockndude87 LOL
BEWARE OF FRANKENSTEIN & HIS BRIDE!!!!
Ditto!