Exactly 1 year ago, I started a project called Kismet that helped me cope with the sudden death of a friend of 25+ years and my godfather (happened within 3 weeks of each other), both of whom I was really close with. Back then I was only a player and unknown in the community. Now I'm flattered to be the designer that Sam mentioned in his #10 that created the 2 player game: Conquest at Kismet (which just got a review from Zee). Thanks again for the shout out, Dice Tower crew!
One of my best gaming experiences of recent memory was accidentally running across a TH-cam video top 10 list about board gaming, by three good friends named Zee, Sam & Tom. That is how I discovered the Dice Tower.
One of the special moments of this year was getting a video of Zee saying hi and wishes he could meet me instead of a friend on Spiel in Essen. Loved the video and I'm very happy you joined the dice tower fulltime!
When Zee's #9 came up, our jaws dropped. So cool! The West Texas Table Top Con was the first board game convention for the wife and me. We made the trip because Sam and Zee were going to be there. We hoped we would meet them as it was a fairly small convention. Imagine our surprise when we got to game with them. That game of Vampire Radar was a blast! Everyone was into the game and Zee, of course, was hamming it up as the vampire. A great experience and was the final motivation we needed to join the Dice Tower as contributors!
1. My extended family get togethers: My sister comes into town for medical reasons once a month, and last year around my Birthday she asked if I would like to have a party/BBQ at our mothers while she was in town. We all liked it and agreed to do this every time she was in town. I began introducing games to my family. Mostly social and party games. We've been doing this for a year and a half, and I have had so many great moments with my extended family playing games and socializing with them. 2. Going to Fire & Ice Convention: My 1st con since becoming an avid board gamer 3. Joining my board game meetup: did this shortly after the convention and have met great friends and gamers 4. being an FFG beta game tester: I have been a huge fan of Talisman since the 80's and being able to beta test new expansions for Talisman is like a life long dream. 5. Werewolf: I learned about Werewolf through DiceTower videos probably about 2 years ago. But never played it until the convention mentoned above. I got a copy and introduced it to my friends, and then family. It has caught on like wild fire, almost everyone loves it. We are guessing that nearly 100 people have been introduced to Werewolf because of my experience and sharing it. As a friend or 2 has introduced it to others now. Werewolf where were you 20 years ago?! 6. Run, Fight, or Die: I hate zombie movies. I also am not a fan of dice games, for me: board games > card games > dice games. I thought I would never like a zombie game. But my sons like zombie video games and Sam's review persuaded me to try it. Curretly Run, Fight, or Die is # 8 game on my top 100. I also own most of the expansions and stuff for it. And even my non gaming family likes it. Most people I teach it to like it. 7. Tile laying games: This year I was introduced to tile laying games (well most of my top 100 games are, as this year was a big leap into the hobby as seen above). 1st it was Tikal, then Trias, then Isle of Sky, and finally and recently Carcassone. I really enjoy tile laying games, and have had many great games playing them. 8. Sci-fi gaming: My favorite genre is Post-Apocalyptic, then Fantasy, then Sci-Fi. But I hadn't found any great sci-fi games until this year (besides Robo-Rally, and while it is Sci-Fi, it's not the space Sci-Fi we all think of). Now I have Alien Frontiers, Mission: Red Planet, Exodus: Proxima Centauri, and I guess you can count Cosmic Encounter (although it probably has more similarity with Roborally than the others). 9. Surprise hits: As shared, I only recently (in the last 4 years) have become an avid board gamer. But I have enjoyed board games longer than that, as a Talisman fan since the 80's, added RoboRally in the 90's, and later added Tomb. But Tomb opened the idea that there may be good games out there and started looking for them a couple years afterwards. I had tried a couple other games in the 80's and they were junk, and I knew over the years that many existed but thought they were junk. Almost 4 years ago this all changed. But this year I have been gaming beyond my friends and have played games I heard of through videos but hadn't played, some of which I didn't think would be good, but were awesome: Tikal #3, Cosmic Encounter #7, Run, Fight, or Die #8 (detailed above), Lords of Vegas #23, Power Grid #26. All games I didn't think I would like but loved! 10. The Dice Tower: the Dice Tower was a top 3 help when I began looking for new games 4 years ago, and this year became a huge fan. I have watched every top 10 list, many top 100 lists, and many reviews. I watch the Blender, Board Game Breakfast, and some other videos of theirs.
One of my top experiences of 2015 was ambling into the CoolStuff in Hollywood for the Tom Vasel Game Day. Sitting at the first table up front is none other than Tom. The first words he ever said to me: "Want to join us?" I appreciate everything you are doing for this hobby I love, particularly in your spirit of welcoming and inclusiveness. Keep up the great work. Other notable experiences: T.I.M.E Stories and Pandemic Legacy have been great. Expanding my legal practice to do some work for some amazing designers and publishers. Doing my first meaty playtest for a game of my own design. Watching my kids really start to get into gaming. One of my favorite RPG experiences with a Timewatch session at Gen Con with the designer, Kevin Kulp. Can't wait to see what 2016 holds.
This was really fun to watch, and I would have to say that DT Con this year (my first big con) was certainly the gaming highlight of my year. And it was really cool that I was part of Tom's #6 (the opening game show) because I was the one who won that game of BBQ Party. I know Sam called some shenanigans because one of my cards was a skip/lose a turn, but that's the way the game can go :) . Thanks for a great time there!
I can think of 3 "best of" gameboard moments this year. Listed in the order of them happening: 1. Being remembered that a game called Shadows Over Camelot exists. it was one of the first true board games I played and decided that I will have to buy it. Kinda forgot about it for ~10 years. But it came in a conversation, and that prompted me to start collecting board games. This happened this summer and though my collection has only about ten titles now, I know it will grow. 2. Playing abovementioned SoT with a group of friends that played it for the first time and really got sucked in. It wasn't roleplaying but everyone addressed others per knight names, there were a bunch of jokes refering to Camelot legends, etc. Really a great game with lots of fun. 3. Deciding to buy Pandemic this october and not being sure how the expansions work. So I read there were two editions, one of it had expansions, the other had a way to make them compatible, and I was like, "huh?" So i searched for game reviews, and that's how I found Dice Tower. Right now I already went through all the Top Tens, tons of reviews, and it,s just so, much fun to watch it. And seeing you three and other contributors, that just makes me all the happier that I decided to get into board games. So thank you all for that!
I just wanted to say that my greatest gaming experience this year was going to Essen for the first time and enjoying four great days of gaming and meeting the Dice Tower crew! Apart from that, I've played countless great games this year, which have given me memorable times - Mission Red Planed 2ed, Blood Rage, Bloody Inn. All in all, a fantastic year!
Codenames is really taking a beating. Everyone I've played it with loves the game. 1# Our first win of Dead of Winter (an extremely close one). 2# A similarly incredible close win of Forbidden Desert. (Had one sand tile left) 3# Raucous games of the Resistance/Avalon 4# Playing my first game on my self-made board game tabletop. 5# Anytime a box of new board games arrives at my door.
My best gaming experience of all time was playing Betrayal at House on the Hill with my friends, being very high luck, we just took our skeleton characters and made backstories for them, and essentially re-lived a Scooby Doo-esque scenario, completed when my friend who had "Daphne" as we named her as her card was purple, rolling all zeroes on a haunt check of five, he promptly got ripped a new one and we have not let him forget it since :P
By far my best gaming experience this year has to be moving back to my hometown, meeting a new group of gamers and start playing with them almost every friday.
my number one just have to be playing dead of winter. Last round of a survival objective, survive 8 rounds or something like that, I have the last turn of us all. My friends says "good thing no one was a traitor", I smile my most evil smile and continues to get the colony overrun and I win the game all on my own after a bit more than an hour of play. Just seeing my friends faces of utter despair was priceless. :)
Listening to your highlights of 2015 was an unexpected treat. I hope you have many more memorable experiences in 2016! Hoping some day I might have an opportunity to sit down at the gaming table with one of you. Cheers!
Someone has a man crush on Piero :D My gaming related most memorable experiences are probably 3) playing a third game of Shadows over Camelot with my colleagues and finally winning it.. only to find out a minute later that we have actually LOST.. AGAIN :))) 2) then playing one game of Small World with the same group (5 players), when we had fun trash talking and real blast and it even came to my mind how great this atmosphere is between us, and number 1) was inviting a bunch of colleagues from other department to join our usual gaming evening and teaching a group of them Ticket to Ride, seeing their excitement when playing a modern board game for the first time, concluded by a crazy game of Saboteur with like 10 of us playing, yelling, bluffing, trash talking, forgetting that it is very late and we all have to get up early to work tomorrow :)
One of the most memorable experiences I've had in our gaming group was the first time we played Exodus: Proxima Centauri. There was this guy that just recently started dating his girlfriend like 2 weeks prior, and he took her to our game night, we usually have gateway games for new people, and the most complex stuff she had played before was Risk. By the time they were there, we had already taken out the whole Centauri game and was almost done with setup, so she didn't want to mess that up and have us take a lighter game, so she insisted on playing that with us as the "ships looked cute"..... nearly 5 hours later, she kicked our asses and won by far... I was like "no way!" hahaha
So excited to see Outfoxed on your list, Tom. Based on your review, this game will be waiting under the tree for my 5 and 6 year old daughters this week and I am really looking forward to playing it with them.
Codenames : I enjoyed every time I played it ... the enjoyment of a game should be one of the most important things deciding whether it's a good one ... so it can't be bad !
Pandemic Legacy was easily my game experience of the year. We played two months a week for a couple of months and all of us constantly looked forward to seeing what would happen next. I'm gearing up to play through a second time with another group and am looking forward to seeing how they react to the twists and turns and what characters and strategies they use compared to the first group. Awesome game, one of the only games I rated 9 on BGG.
My #1 moment in gaming year this year is the one time i played Arcadia quest with my wife and she launched an attack against my character. and he just started pounding 'em (to a good result). She is not at all into 'mean' games and PVP and all that. So that was fun!
I got Zee's 5th and Sam's 4th, Blood Rage, on my camera while Eric was showing the game for the dice tower in GenCon 2015: th-cam.com/video/jA2NiWdnQp8/w-d-xo.html
That's actually a playthrough of Eric Lang' The Others in (at that time) "prototype form" at GenCon...not Blood Rage at Dice Tower Con. But that was also a highlight of my year.
+Sam Healey oh yeah, i got excited when I remembered that i got you, by chance, and Eric while he was showing the game, sorry about that, i'll edit the comment
The Top 10 Gaming Experiences of all time is maybe my favorite of all of the top 10 videos. This is maybe the worst. Maybe a year just isn't long enough to come up with interesting stories. There were some good moments but way too much of "I played game X with persons/designers Y and it was fun!!" There needs to be more there for it to be interesting. You play tons of board games and have a great deal of opportunities compared to an average gamer, to play with people like designers. We know you have those moments. If you didn't have those moments, something would be terribly wrong. To be clear, these all sound like they were understandably great moments for you. It just made for uninteresting viewing.
+TheSpruta I thought it was actually pretty great. I felt like I know these guys more now, instead of just knowing about which game they like. A nice and interesting peak behind the curtains.
It's a running gag. I believe Zee once claimed to be the Mexican son of Chinese parents... which makes me want a t-shirt with his face, wearing a traditional silk jacket, a sombrero and holding Yorrick's skull from "Hamlet"... because the back would say... With a background in theatre."
These guys are some of the most pleasant people I have ever come across. I hope they keeps doing this for a long time.
They already have. Check back for some great ones like overrated games with Slammin' Sammy,
Couldn't agree more!
Exactly 1 year ago, I started a project called Kismet that helped me cope with the sudden death of a friend of 25+ years and my godfather (happened within 3 weeks of each other), both of whom I was really close with. Back then I was only a player and unknown in the community. Now I'm flattered to be the designer that Sam mentioned in his #10 that created the 2 player game: Conquest at Kismet (which just got a review from Zee). Thanks again for the shout out, Dice Tower crew!
Yep, you were ONE of the designers...;)...had a great time that day!
One of my best gaming experiences of recent memory was accidentally running across a TH-cam video top 10 list about board gaming, by three good friends named Zee, Sam & Tom. That is how I discovered the Dice Tower.
On behalf of those of us for whom such experiences are rare, thank you for allowing us to share in yours.
One of the special moments of this year was getting a video of Zee saying hi and wishes he could meet me instead of a friend on Spiel in Essen. Loved the video and I'm very happy you joined the dice tower fulltime!
When Zee's #9 came up, our jaws dropped. So cool! The West Texas Table Top Con was the first board game convention for the wife and me. We made the trip because Sam and Zee were going to be there. We hoped we would meet them as it was a fairly small convention. Imagine our surprise when we got to game with them. That game of Vampire Radar was a blast! Everyone was into the game and Zee, of course, was hamming it up as the vampire. A great experience and was the final motivation we needed to join the Dice Tower as contributors!
+The Family Showdown I love it when Zee starts joking. That would have been a highlight for me, too!SueKuKu
1. My extended family get togethers: My sister comes into town for medical reasons once a month, and last year around my Birthday she asked if I would like to have a party/BBQ at our mothers while she was in town. We all liked it and agreed to do this every time she was in town. I began introducing games to my family. Mostly social and party games. We've been doing this for a year and a half, and I have had so many great moments with my extended family playing games and socializing with them.
2. Going to Fire & Ice Convention: My 1st con since becoming an avid board gamer
3. Joining my board game meetup: did this shortly after the convention and have met great friends and gamers
4. being an FFG beta game tester: I have been a huge fan of Talisman since the 80's and being able to beta test new expansions for Talisman is like a life long dream.
5. Werewolf: I learned about Werewolf through DiceTower videos probably about 2 years ago. But never played it until the convention mentoned above. I got a copy and introduced it to my friends, and then family. It has caught on like wild fire, almost everyone loves it. We are guessing that nearly 100 people have been introduced to Werewolf because of my experience and sharing it. As a friend or 2 has introduced it to others now. Werewolf where were you 20 years ago?!
6. Run, Fight, or Die: I hate zombie movies. I also am not a fan of dice games, for me: board games > card games > dice games. I thought I would never like a zombie game. But my sons like zombie video games and Sam's review persuaded me to try it. Curretly Run, Fight, or Die is # 8 game on my top 100. I also own most of the expansions and stuff for it. And even my non gaming family likes it. Most people I teach it to like it.
7. Tile laying games: This year I was introduced to tile laying games (well most of my top 100 games are, as this year was a big leap into the hobby as seen above). 1st it was Tikal, then Trias, then Isle of Sky, and finally and recently Carcassone. I really enjoy tile laying games, and have had many great games playing them.
8. Sci-fi gaming: My favorite genre is Post-Apocalyptic, then Fantasy, then Sci-Fi. But I hadn't found any great sci-fi games until this year (besides Robo-Rally, and while it is Sci-Fi, it's not the space Sci-Fi we all think of). Now I have Alien Frontiers, Mission: Red Planet, Exodus: Proxima Centauri, and I guess you can count Cosmic Encounter (although it probably has more similarity with Roborally than the others).
9. Surprise hits: As shared, I only recently (in the last 4 years) have become an avid board gamer. But I have enjoyed board games longer than that, as a Talisman fan since the 80's, added RoboRally in the 90's, and later added Tomb. But Tomb opened the idea that there may be good games out there and started looking for them a couple years afterwards. I had tried a couple other games in the 80's and they were junk, and I knew over the years that many existed but thought they were junk. Almost 4 years ago this all changed. But this year I have been gaming beyond my friends and have played games I heard of through videos but hadn't played, some of which I didn't think would be good, but were awesome: Tikal #3, Cosmic Encounter #7, Run, Fight, or Die #8 (detailed above), Lords of Vegas #23, Power Grid #26. All games I didn't think I would like but loved!
10. The Dice Tower: the Dice Tower was a top 3 help when I began looking for new games 4 years ago, and this year became a huge fan. I have watched every top 10 list, many top 100 lists, and many reviews. I watch the Blender, Board Game Breakfast, and some other videos of theirs.
One of my top experiences of 2015 was ambling into the CoolStuff in Hollywood for the Tom Vasel Game Day. Sitting at the first table up front is none other than Tom. The first words he ever said to me: "Want to join us?" I appreciate everything you are doing for this hobby I love, particularly in your spirit of welcoming and inclusiveness. Keep up the great work.
Other notable experiences: T.I.M.E Stories and Pandemic Legacy have been great. Expanding my legal practice to do some work for some amazing designers and publishers. Doing my first meaty playtest for a game of my own design. Watching my kids really start to get into gaming. One of my favorite RPG experiences with a Timewatch session at Gen Con with the designer, Kevin Kulp.
Can't wait to see what 2016 holds.
This was really fun to watch, and I would have to say that DT Con this year (my first big con) was certainly the gaming highlight of my year. And it was really cool that I was part of Tom's #6 (the opening game show) because I was the one who won that game of BBQ Party. I know Sam called some shenanigans because one of my cards was a skip/lose a turn, but that's the way the game can go :) . Thanks for a great time there!
Oh hey, I'm that jerky betrayer from GrandCon! Thanks again for playing with us, Tom, that game was the highlight of the con for me.
I can think of 3 "best of" gameboard moments this year. Listed in the order of them happening:
1. Being remembered that a game called Shadows Over Camelot exists. it was one of the first true board games I played and decided that I will have to buy it. Kinda forgot about it for ~10 years. But it came in a conversation, and that prompted me to start collecting board games. This happened this summer and though my collection has only about ten titles now, I know it will grow.
2. Playing abovementioned SoT with a group of friends that played it for the first time and really got sucked in. It wasn't roleplaying but everyone addressed others per knight names, there were a bunch of jokes refering to Camelot legends, etc. Really a great game with lots of fun.
3. Deciding to buy Pandemic this october and not being sure how the expansions work. So I read there were two editions, one of it had expansions, the other had a way to make them compatible, and I was like, "huh?" So i searched for game reviews, and that's how I found Dice Tower. Right now I already went through all the Top Tens, tons of reviews, and it,s just so, much fun to watch it. And seeing you three and other contributors, that just makes me all the happier that I decided to get into board games. So thank you all for that!
I just wanted to say that my greatest gaming experience this year was going to Essen for the first time and enjoying four great days of gaming and meeting the Dice Tower crew! Apart from that, I've played countless great games this year, which have given me memorable times - Mission Red Planed 2ed, Blood Rage, Bloody Inn. All in all, a fantastic year!
Codenames is really taking a beating. Everyone I've played it with loves the game.
1# Our first win of Dead of Winter (an extremely close one).
2# A similarly incredible close win of Forbidden Desert. (Had one sand tile left)
3# Raucous games of the Resistance/Avalon
4# Playing my first game on my self-made board game tabletop.
5# Anytime a box of new board games arrives at my door.
My best gaming experience of all time was playing Betrayal at House on the Hill with my friends, being very high luck, we just took our skeleton characters and made backstories for them, and essentially re-lived a Scooby Doo-esque scenario, completed when my friend who had "Daphne" as we named her as her card was purple, rolling all zeroes on a haunt check of five, he promptly got ripped a new one and we have not let him forget it since :P
By far my best gaming experience this year has to be moving back to my hometown, meeting a new group of gamers and start playing with them almost every friday.
my number one just have to be playing dead of winter. Last round of a survival objective, survive 8 rounds or something like that, I have the last turn of us all. My friends says "good thing no one was a traitor", I smile my most evil smile and continues to get the colony overrun and I win the game all on my own after a bit more than an hour of play. Just seeing my friends faces of utter despair was priceless. :)
Listening to your highlights of 2015 was an unexpected treat. I hope you have many more memorable experiences in 2016! Hoping some day I might have an opportunity to sit down at the gaming table with one of you. Cheers!
Playing T.I.M.E Stories. I looked at the components and thought "This looks weird"... I was blown away. Amazing game
Someone has a man crush on Piero :D
My gaming related most memorable experiences are probably 3) playing a third game of Shadows over Camelot with my colleagues and finally winning it.. only to find out a minute later that we have actually LOST.. AGAIN :))) 2) then playing one game of Small World with the same group (5 players), when we had fun trash talking and real blast and it even came to my mind how great this atmosphere is between us, and number 1) was inviting a bunch of colleagues from other department to join our usual gaming evening and teaching a group of them Ticket to Ride, seeing their excitement when playing a modern board game for the first time, concluded by a crazy game of Saboteur with like 10 of us playing, yelling, bluffing, trash talking, forgetting that it is very late and we all have to get up early to work tomorrow :)
One of the most memorable experiences I've had in our gaming group was the first time we played Exodus: Proxima Centauri. There was this guy that just recently started dating his girlfriend like 2 weeks prior, and he took her to our game night, we usually have gateway games for new people, and the most complex stuff she had played before was Risk. By the time they were there, we had already taken out the whole Centauri game and was almost done with setup, so she didn't want to mess that up and have us take a lighter game, so she insisted on playing that with us as the "ships looked cute"..... nearly 5 hours later, she kicked our asses and won by far... I was like "no way!" hahaha
So excited to see Outfoxed on your list, Tom. Based on your review, this game will be waiting under the tree for my 5 and 6 year old daughters this week and I am really looking forward to playing it with them.
Codenames : I enjoyed every time I played it ... the enjoyment of a game should be one of the most important things deciding whether it's a good one ... so it can't be bad !
+Bob Gabriels #1:pandemic legacy #2:time stories #3:Essen!
Tom just crushed Jason's spirit by not listing the Dice Master's duel with them against Eric Lang and Mike Elliot.
Pandemic Legacy was easily my game experience of the year. We played two months a week for a couple of months and all of us constantly looked forward to seeing what would happen next. I'm gearing up to play through a second time with another group and am looking forward to seeing how they react to the twists and turns and what characters and strategies they use compared to the first group. Awesome game, one of the only games I rated 9 on BGG.
Blast Garcia, blasts thru the Blast Game with a blasting blast, and it was, apparently a blast! Lovin it.
No Jason getting the spy card a million times in a row? :p
My best moment was playing Spyfall with Eric and Jason at Origins.
I was the spy and got them to vote Jason... twice.
My #1 moment in gaming year this year is the one time i played Arcadia quest with my wife and she launched an attack against my character. and he just started pounding 'em (to a good result). She is not at all into 'mean' games and PVP and all that. So that was fun!
Surprised the Snakes & Lattes folks were french, they are from Toronto no?
What's up with the keys?
Wait a minute? I thought Zee's parents were Chinese? And they speak Spanish also?! Mind blown :))))
They are very lucky to have a job they can laugh at every day. I hope they can keep it going for a long time
Zee's CHINESE parents speak only Spanish? :P
+Owlblocks David Zee is Chinese, his adoptive parents are not.
+Owlblocks David WHAT? Zee is chinese?!
Nope, I'm wrong.
Just title it "List 10 games that you played with designers this year"
Isn't raptor a faidutti game ?
Cathala and Faduitti...
Of course it is, Faidutti promotes it a lot on fb, so much I forgot it was a team effort >< apologies
I got Zee's 5th and Sam's 4th, Blood Rage, on my camera while Eric was showing the game for the dice tower in GenCon 2015: th-cam.com/video/jA2NiWdnQp8/w-d-xo.html
+Yaqoob AlSharrah That was fun to see!
That's actually a playthrough of Eric Lang' The Others in (at that time) "prototype form" at GenCon...not Blood Rage at Dice Tower Con. But that was also a highlight of my year.
+Sam Healey oh yeah, i got excited when I remembered that i got you, by chance, and Eric while he was showing the game, sorry about that, i'll edit the comment
Yaqoob AlSharrah No worries! Both were great experiences.
Zee is so frigging cute
My number 1 is, not playing pandemic legacy.
Cardinal Cardinal fibs!!
The Top 10 Gaming Experiences of all time is maybe my favorite of all of the top 10 videos.
This is maybe the worst. Maybe a year just isn't long enough to come up with interesting stories. There were some good moments but way too much of "I played game X with persons/designers Y and it was fun!!" There needs to be more there for it to be interesting. You play tons of board games and have a great deal of opportunities compared to an average gamer, to play with people like designers. We know you have those moments. If you didn't have those moments, something would be terribly wrong.
To be clear, these all sound like they were understandably great moments for you. It just made for uninteresting viewing.
+TheSpruta I thought it was actually pretty great. I felt like I know these guys more now, instead of just knowing about which game they like. A nice and interesting peak behind the curtains.
Philippe DesRoches
That's how I felt after the gaming experiences of all time video. This one felt pretty empty in comparison.
I actually enjoyed it for the stories themselves
+TheSpruta And I'm loving reading the stories of others' best moments here in the comments.SueKuKu
Wait... I thought Zee's parents were Chinese...
It's a running gag. I believe Zee once claimed to be the Mexican son of Chinese parents... which makes me want a t-shirt with his face, wearing a traditional silk jacket, a sombrero and holding Yorrick's skull from "Hamlet"... because the back would say... With a background in theatre."
+Joshua Schulz
And if I remember correctly, the UK is involved too.
wow red hat))
coooooooool :) yeah
2nd!