Hawker Typhoon - From Ugly Duckling to Swan

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  • The Hawker Typhoon was a British World War 2 fighter-bomber. Sometimes called the first true aircraft of its type. But its history is a complex one. Join us while we look at one of Britain's most iconic airplanes of the Second World War.
    0:04 History
    3:59 Strengths
    4:44 Weaknesses
    5:16 Variants
    6:40 Head to Head
    8:20 Rating
    8:39 In Action
    9:55 Notable Pilots
    10:45 Conclusion
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  • @AllthingsWW2
    @AllthingsWW2  3 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Hey there. I want to thank you for all the support lately, especially to all those that have subscribed to the channel. My initial goal was to do 5 videos, one about an aircraft from each major power. I'm only missing Japan now, but I needed a book for the new video and it's late. You know how things are nowadays. So I will probably repeat a nation (USA, Germany, Brittain, or Soviet Union) for the next video. Leave a comment if you have a suggestion. Thank you once again.

    • @mariobentivenga844
      @mariobentivenga844 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Great jobs with these videos! Instead of repeating, maybe you could do a video on an Italian plane, like the C202?

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Thank you! Unfortunately, the next one is already decided and it will be from one of those four nations. I will certainly do a video of the "Folgore" in the close future, as I find it one of the most beautiful aircraft of the Second World War.

    • @mudkoerfgen9843
      @mudkoerfgen9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Fw 190 is my Favorite WW 2 Fighter Plane (Love All Of 'Em) & my most Favourite Mark Felton story he has done is the 1 about the 'Night Raider Versions Over England that became disoriented after night fighting & landed at enemy airfields with 1 taxiing up to British ground crew with dashing Fighter Pilot barking out orders "Schnell Schnell (despite my last name i am 54 yo Australian & forgot how to spell German from my extensive comic book reading as a child) reload ammunition, check the oil & tyre pressure, clean the canopy, load up my meth pipe cause there is few more hours of darkness i will fly another mission over the pond again" ..., only to have Bob the postman's armoured boxcar roll up with machine gun to arrest him to realise he's already had 1 to many meth pipes lately

    • @mudkoerfgen9843
      @mudkoerfgen9843 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@fragotron War is ugly but if i had to die with my boots on i would choose the glory ride into Valhalla with a piston engine prop driven WW2 Warbird strapped to my back ☝ + we all die eventually (look at this Plandemic crap being constructed to steal our freedom now) so if i am gunna die, i wanna die with my boots on 👍

    • @mikestanmore2614
      @mikestanmore2614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I've really enjoyed your material, the format is great. Although I'm not in a position to support you on patreon, I've shared your recent videos on my Facebook WW2 page. I hope this helps raise your profile.

  • @defender1006
    @defender1006 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    The Typhoon was a typical Hawker aircraft, with a very stable gun platform, I remember seeing a quote from a WWII fighter ace being asked about his favourite aircraft, he said, 'to fly in a Spitfire, but to fight in a Hurricane'. I think that says it all?! The Tempest was a Typhoon with more of everything!

    • @bobsakamanos4469
      @bobsakamanos4469 ปีที่แล้ว

      to fight in a Hurricane? LOL, you can't be serious.

  • @hadtopicausername
    @hadtopicausername 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    I remember reading Pierre Clostermann's book, and his experience flying the Typhoon for the first time in preparation for flying the Tempest. He had a devil of a time keeping the propeller torque from veering him off to the side during take-off. They'd actually demolished the last building alongside the airstrip to keep pilots in training from crashing into it, and he still had to struggle a bit to stay clear.

  • @alessiodecarolis
    @alessiodecarolis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    The high loss ratio can be justified by the dangers of CAS, most of Typhoons' losses can be attributed to the lethal Flak, expecially when attacking fixed positions, as explained by Pierre Clostermann's memories

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I must get a copy of his book and read it. I have only read good things about it in reviews and comments.

    • @uflux
      @uflux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Agreed that kill ratio makes zero sense considering what it faced. The book Typhoon Pilot by Desmond Scott is an excellent book also.

    • @larrybarnes3920
      @larrybarnes3920 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I've read The Big Show several times. A great book.

    • @apfelsnutz
      @apfelsnutz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Also, because of it's water cooled engine. Better suited was the P-47, however not used extensively. Thanks...

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      He flew Tempests, not Typhoons.

  • @BanjoLuke1
    @BanjoLuke1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +68

    An interesting piece. My father and godfather fought together from Normandy, Falaise, through Nijmegen and up to Germany. Both spoke very highly of the courage of the pilots and efficacity of their aircraft.
    On a related note, when the Christopher Finney episode happened in 2003, my godfather said "Nothing has changed. When we called in air support we used to pray it wasn't the Yanks. There was as much chance they'd hit us as the enemy". That is entirely anecdotal, but the look on his face lent it veracity.

    • @cageordie
      @cageordie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      My grandfather was with the Royal Engineers and fought from d-day to VE Day. He said when Germans flew over the allies fired, when RAF flew over the Germans fired, when Americans flew over everyone fired. The USAF has never been trustworthy.

    • @mattharcla
      @mattharcla 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Similar experiences in Korea for Aussies and Vietnam for US troops...stray napalm from USAF. Fortunately their field artillery is excellent.

    • @idleonlooker1078
      @idleonlooker1078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Sadly, though the PBI appreciated Typhoons in support, the Typhhon pilots suffered horrendous losses as many pilots were killed in these low level attacks against heavily defended points. As a result of very high losses, the supply of volunteer pilots for Typhoon squadrons almost dried up!! No-one wanted to fly the Typhoon, as it meant almost certain death!! IMHO the Typhoon pilots were the bravest pilots of them all. 👍

    • @idleonlooker1078
      @idleonlooker1078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@mattharcla FYI, during WWII the USAF was so inaccurate that their bombers regularly missed the intended targets in Germany - and bombed neutral Sweden (a full 250 miles away!!) instead!! Look it up. The US had to pay reparations to Sweden after the war.

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@idleonlooker1078 Gotta stand them beside the night bomber crews. I would be loathe to say which ones were braver and could only say all who pulled on a uniform deserve to be given our utmost respect.

  • @alexlanning712
    @alexlanning712 2 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Loved the Typhoon, after reading Pierre Clostermans book "The Big Show", and as a child assembled a plastic kit, which was my favourite model

    • @James-pb1st
      @James-pb1st 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      " Le Grand Charles " ..of Pierre Closterman it is a Hawker Tempest V.

    • @idleonlooker1078
      @idleonlooker1078 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Clostermann never flew Typhoons - he flew Spitfires and then the Hawker Tempest. But you're right, both these powerful Hawker aircraft are beautiful: the pugnacious Typhhon and the superlative Tempest. 👍

    • @ippivonlarha9900
      @ippivonlarha9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Those books are hard to get in finnish today. I only have two.

    • @ippivonlarha9900
      @ippivonlarha9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      He took couple of spins with the typhoon, as a tutorial for the great Charles.

    • @alexlanning712
      @alexlanning712 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@ippivonlarha9900 An easy read for an adventure hungry Baby Boomer

  • @tgsgardenmaintenance4627
    @tgsgardenmaintenance4627 2 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Great ground attack plane and looked the dog's bollocks, not as pretty as the spitfire but did a great job. For me, the greatest plane of WW2 was the insanely gorgeous Mosquito!

    • @theprojectproject01
      @theprojectproject01 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The Hawker looks like a light-heavyweight boxer at peak fitness; the Spit is more like a rapier fencer. Neither is something to take on thoughtlessly.

    • @davecoops9767
      @davecoops9767 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Couldn't agree more :)

    • @richardlahan7068
      @richardlahan7068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      The RAFs equivalent to the P-47 Thunderbolt.

    • @glennmurray.
      @glennmurray. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Totally agree 👍🙂

    • @geofharris5546
      @geofharris5546 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah.. amazing.. and with a business-end to match its handsome looks..! I later got to work for a man who was an engineer/draughtsman in its design office at the time.. Norman Barraud!

  • @mootpointjones8488
    @mootpointjones8488 2 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    I enjoyed making models of it as a youngster because of the beautiful air intake 😊

    • @dannycalley7777
      @dannycalley7777 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      M.J. ..............don't forget the Rockets ?????????

    • @raypurchase801
      @raypurchase801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Airfix. Yep.

    • @ippivonlarha9900
      @ippivonlarha9900 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yeah. It looks like it's going to eat all the sky.

    • @philip8624
      @philip8624 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      i jumped from a 1/48 scale model back in the day..to a scrachbuild 8 foot wingspan R.C. i just had to do it..love the plane so much!

  • @foleymark4563
    @foleymark4563 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Brilliant! My dad flew both Hurricanes snd Typhoons. He was shot down 27 th August 44, 175 Sqd, and remained a POW until the end of the war. God bless his soul and his fellow amazing heroes!

  • @benwilson6145
    @benwilson6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

    I recently read a history of the Black Watch, they used "Taxi Ranks" of Tempest during the invasion of Holland and Germany. When they came across tanks or well defended structures they would call in a strike. They said it was very effective and suppressed the Germans urge to defend villages and structures. They also operated from very basic landing grounds close to the front.

    • @russcattell955i
      @russcattell955i 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      It is said that a salvo of 65lb rockets from a Typhoon is like a broadside salvo from a 6" gun naval cruiser.

    • @josephking6515
      @josephking6515 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The advanced airfields were so close to the front lines that they used to get shelled by the Germans but only at night when they weren't flying so as not to suffer the wrath of those dangerous aircraft and pilots.

    • @alessiodecarolis
      @alessiodecarolis 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      And the absurdity is that a LOT of experience was throw away after the war, with all the high-tech madness of the'50s/'60s, only thanks to the Vietnam war (!) there was a new interest in CAS, before the majority of the projects were for high altitude interceptors or heavy bombers (ironically the B52s operated in this role at Khe Sahn!)

    • @badbotchdown9845
      @badbotchdown9845 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@josephking6515 that's when they were in Normandy in strip field runways.

    • @robdee81
      @robdee81 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@russcattell955i yeah but the tank kills are proven to be highly over optimistic , when atual research was done hardly any pilots could hit a tank with the rockets.

  • @robtt997
    @robtt997 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Delighted to hear mention of ‘Pinkie ‘ Stark. His brother Roy (also an RAF pilot in the war) was my doctor . Both survived he war .

  • @johnholt9399
    @johnholt9399 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    It’s notable after WW2 RAF got rid of them very quickly suggesting they weren’t that keen on it and amazingly there is only one currently fully extant in the world at RAF Museum in Hendon and that was preserved by the US.

  • @bigjj1109
    @bigjj1109 3 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Fantastic description of the Hawker Typhoon I'd say it was a difficult beast to fly! Keep up the good work

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
      @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Why would you say it would be a difficult plane to fly?

    • @jimdavis8391
      @jimdavis8391 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Easy to fly, not so easy to maintain....

    • @defender1006
      @defender1006 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 It was an animal of an aircraft, it had HUGE horsepower and much more weight, but with at the time a conventional airframe, the limits were being pushed like never before?!

  • @bassmith448bassist5
    @bassmith448bassist5 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just found this delightful channel!!!! Liked and subbed immediately!!!! I to am a WW2 history fan and amateur historian. The Typhoon is one of my favorite aircraft of that time and sadly, no flying examples exist today. I will continue to follow you and your work and see what else you are doing. Thanks again for an excellent video!!!!!

    • @dukecraig2402
      @dukecraig2402 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      My favorite British aircraft of WW2, like P47's they're big nasty airplanes.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @ronjon7942
    @ronjon7942 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Fascinating that the Vulture was considered during development, in addition to the Sabre; I wonder if they sketched in a Centaurus too, like Hawker did w the Sea Fury. Such an imposing, intimidating looking aircraft; I can imagine a pilot feeling pleased , strapping one on. Nice work, you’re really a ‘go to’ channel for me.

  • @kevinmcdonald6446
    @kevinmcdonald6446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well done. Concise, clear, and accurate.

  • @RayyMusik
    @RayyMusik 3 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    I particularly like the clear, uniform structure of your videos.
    However, here a little digression to the Tempest would have been nice.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you! I thought about doing the digression into the Tempest, but I want to keep these videos under 12 minutes, as my only experience with a video longer than that wasn't a big success. But hey, this means that in the future there will be a whole video on the Tempest!

    • @RayyMusik
      @RayyMusik 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      That‘s what I wanted to read! :)

  • @tiptoptechno
    @tiptoptechno 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Well done on the composition of this video. I appreciated the breakdown of stats, pilots etc, not something you generally see on military plane videos on TH-cam and it provides some differentiation to your channel. Keep up the great work! Subbed.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you! Bringing up the stats is in fact a curse. Unfortunately, there are a lot of different values for the same aircraft, and it is a lot of work shuffling through various publications and trying to figure out what is a balanced figure. But I'm glad some people like it.

  • @jeremyatkinson4976
    @jeremyatkinson4976 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

    I'm no expert but I thought that much of the losses sustained by ground attack aircraft was from ground fire. If so it's misleading to look at the combat ratio of kills and losses. As for it no longer being used immediately after the war, well it was quickly superceded by the improved Tempest

    • @Bochi42
      @Bochi42 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Agreed that part was bad. You can't compare aerial victories with losses to all causes.
      I very much enjoyed the video but that part was a surprising mistake. Better to simply admit not having useful numbers for that comparison. And of course there's no way for a Typhy to shoot down luftwaffe planes when they aren't showing up for the dance.

  • @nostromoau
    @nostromoau 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Souvenir shops in the beachside towns in Normandy sell little typhoon models. They must have made a good impression on the locals.

  • @juliusgrover7262
    @juliusgrover7262 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    I've watched a couple of your videos and am impressed. I know that these videos take a lot of work, but you have potential for a good channel and WW2 is a good subject for more videos. Thank you.

  • @philbertdez3863
    @philbertdez3863 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice review of this classic warbird history and development. The Spitfire's gets the lions share of attention in regards to british airplanes of the time, however it was the classic Hawker Typhoon MK1B with it's quad 20mm cannons, distinctive underwing rockets setup and it's aggresive looking air intake that held my attention. It was also one of my first model kits as a child and is a cherished nostalgic memory. Thanks and have a great day.

  • @jamiemorrow3959
    @jamiemorrow3959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Canadian squadrons used bombs in lieu of rockets. My step grand-father flew with 438 SQN his war memoirs should be a movie.

  • @anselmdanker9519
    @anselmdanker9519 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Thank you for this excellent presentation. Enjoyed it .

  • @vigilantobserver8389
    @vigilantobserver8389 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Excellent video, thank you! At least they could , ultimately, save the design. Man, four 20mm. cannons and rockets. That's serious fire power!

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Thank you!

    • @monza1002000
      @monza1002000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      My father flew the Typoon and on occasion, when they had a long runway available, they would load 2 of the Typoons with 16 rockets each, 2 more with 10 and the rest with the normal 8. Those Typoons could hit harder than a cruiser!

  • @davidrobertson5700
    @davidrobertson5700 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Typhoon was a beautiful beast, so beautiful.
    Thank you for your time to make the video.
    Please make one for the The Kestrel, the Harrier, and the TSR2
    Fabulous video, may I subscribe please ?
    From,
    Brighton,
    Great Britain

  • @FenrirTheGray
    @FenrirTheGray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Tempest was definetely my favorite plane of the WW2, so i'm sad to see that it was only mentioned here.
    Hopefully we get a full fledged video one about it one day 🙂

  • @kevinmoor26
    @kevinmoor26 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Very informative video. Most people have never heard of the Typhoon or the Tempest, yet they had astonishing performance and firepower.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

    • @williampatterson3683
      @williampatterson3683 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Every young boy of my generation knew of the Typhoon and Tempest...growing up in the '60s by bedroom ceiling hung with models of these and mire airfix ww11 aircraft..

  • @EllieMaes-Grandad
    @EllieMaes-Grandad ปีที่แล้ว

    Pierre Closterman's book -The Big Show- is a good read. His visit to the Falaise Gap was instructive . . .

  • @carlonevs2137
    @carlonevs2137 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Pierre Clostermann, in one of his books, considered the Typhoon so powerful they, seasoned pilots, were afraid of doing a roll, let alone a looping with it...
    They also use to line-up the Typhoon at 45º with the runway heading to avoid the engine torque driving them into the grass...

    • @JohnyG29
      @JohnyG29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      He flew the Tempest not the Typhoon.

    • @Pgb633
      @Pgb633 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnyG29 he trained in the Typhoon for the Tempest

  • @tatuloa
    @tatuloa 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The Typhoons were like flying Infantry tanks , I love the raw power , speed and work load , a real air grunt ...

  • @MWM-dj6dn
    @MWM-dj6dn ปีที่แล้ว

    I thank you for your great effort in providing accurate, useful and wonderful information on your esteemed channel. A thousand greetings of respect, appreciation and pride. I wish you success and progress in your wonderful work. Much respect

  • @larrydee8859
    @larrydee8859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always; An excellent, very informative technical video!
    Great Work!

  • @gfabie4901
    @gfabie4901 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent coverage. Thank you for this.

  • @bmwz3coupe
    @bmwz3coupe 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The photo of the whole squadron posed around the plane, looking at the camera, our family believes is the 263 squadron. There father is the middle man sitting on the ground on the right. Austin B McCully 1922-1996. He was Canadian.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for sharing. He was surely a great man. 👍

  • @jimboAndersenReviews
    @jimboAndersenReviews 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Liked, subscribed and rang the bell.
    Right on. No need to change the format; it's short and factual. -TH-cam links me directly to a Greg's Airplanes and Automobiles presentation, where episodes are longer and more complex. Time well spent, on both channels :3

  • @robertsansone1680
    @robertsansone1680 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Excellent documentary! Thank You. P.S. Dr. Strangelove is my favorite movie.

  • @perrydowd9285
    @perrydowd9285 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love you're format. You make the subject so easy to understand.
    I just subscribed. 👍👍

  • @mvnorsel6354
    @mvnorsel6354 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    My Auntie's husband flew Typhoon's. He said you go round once as the flak guns will be much more accurate going around twice.

  • @mikepette4422
    @mikepette4422 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks for the honest look and comparison

  • @tempestmkiv
    @tempestmkiv 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    A well done video but I would add that the main reason the loss rates were so high was due to the nature of the work this airplane did. In the ground attack role they were always low down where they were quite defenceless as the Fw190's and Me109's were ambushing them from above. The Tempest suffered the same even though it was a capable dog fighter and with such a high loss rates among pilots no one really wanted to fly them.

  • @MWM-dj6dn
    @MWM-dj6dn ปีที่แล้ว

    A thousand greetings, great respect and admiration for your esteemed and wonderful channel, which provided accurate and useful information. I wish you lasting success. A wonderful work and a great effort that deserves pride, appreciation and pride. My utmost respect and appreciation to you

  • @bitterdrinker
    @bitterdrinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I used to know a man who was a mechanic on Typhoons in ww2. He said the engine was famously difficult to start. The oil needed to be heated before it would flow. Apparently when cold it was impossible to turn the prop. The engine had to be warmed and slowly turned over before it could be started.

  • @Sacto1654
    @Sacto1654 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The biggest problem with the Typhoon early on was the weak tail structure. Hawker eventually strenghened that structure and from then on, the Typhoon became and excellent low-level combat platform, especially in the ground attack role.

  • @MWM-dj6dn
    @MWM-dj6dn ปีที่แล้ว

    The greatest words of respect, praise and appreciation I dedicate to you for this wonderful and distinguished work
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  • @anthonyxuereb5410
    @anthonyxuereb5410 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    From ugly duckling to vulture but not a swan. Awesome power plant.

  • @JosipRadnik1
    @JosipRadnik1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Aw... 246 aerial victories to 500+ Typhoons shot down.... are you really suggesting that the 246 to 500+ ratio is from air to air combat? Is it not that the Typhoon was primarely used as a ground attack aircraft - resulting in most casualties being from ground fire? Sorry, but the way you make this comparison is very misleading.

    • @frankanderson5012
      @frankanderson5012 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I wondered that to. Are these actual loses from air to air such as ‘rhubarb’ missions, or shot down from ground fire or whilst on ground attack support. Good video still.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      After reading your comment I do agree that that section comes across as misleading. It wasn't certainly my objective and I hope it didn't come across as a hit piece on the Typhoon, as that wasn't my objective at all. According to The Hawker Typhoon Preservation Group (which is a fantastic group trying to save the last existing Hawker Typhoon), 666 (an eerie number) Typhoon pilots paid the ultimate price during the war. Although I don't have the total number of Typhoons lost during the war, it was certainly much bigger than 500. That number refers to aerial combat losses. But I do entirely agree that many of those were shot down by enemy planes while performing ground-attack missions and as such that section of the video comes as misleading. I was too focused on trying to convey that those numbers were from operations in Europe (as there were a few Typhoons that fought in North Africa). I hope you were still able to enjoy the video. Thank you for the feedback.

  • @WgCdrLuddite
    @WgCdrLuddite 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Nicely done, you got all the salient facts.

  • @kevelliott
    @kevelliott 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    An excellent video, with clear, methodical presentation. As for notable pilots, you might have considered Wing Commander Roland Beamont. He helped develop the Typhoon and Tempest and was instrumental in the evolution of the Typhoon as a ground attack aircraft, before becoming a highly successful test pilot after the war.

    • @ericgrace9995
      @ericgrace9995 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Pierre Closterman ?..his audio book is now available on line....,3 episodes.

    • @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935
      @givenfirstnamefamilyfirstn3935 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I had the pleasure to hear a talk from Bee, Pierre was a Spitfire and Tempest pilot.

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you!

  • @dionrau5580
    @dionrau5580 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I been waiting for some info on this, thanks!

  • @gordonfrickers5592
    @gordonfrickers5592 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks, a good video, a word though if i may about Typhoon losses which were quite high.
    As you know, the aircraft became a distinguished ground attack aeroplane particularly noted for the Falaise Gap battle.
    During WW2 flack downed more aircraft than any other source by far or should I say by fire...
    Experienced pilots rarely made more than one pass over a target as a second pass with defences fully alert was much more dangerous than the first.
    More than most aircraft the Typhoon was often very exposed to flack.
    The famous WW2 aviation artist Frank Wooton made a fine painting of the results about which the only criticism I read was by a senior RAF officer who said "excellent but not enough dead Germans".

  • @roberthendrix229
    @roberthendrix229 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You are doing a great job, I really enjoy the style of your videos and the information they provide. Keep up the good work!!!

  • @MWM-dj6dn
    @MWM-dj6dn ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @veritasvincit2745
    @veritasvincit2745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The book Day Of The Typhoon by John Golley is a good read about how these things were used to good effect in ground attack duties.

  • @claudenewbolt2659
    @claudenewbolt2659 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    EXCELLENT HISTORY OF THIS AIRCRAFT!

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I’d love this video hope you do the mosquito next.

  • @arturodelagarza9028
    @arturodelagarza9028 ปีที่แล้ว

    THIS MY FAVORITE WW2 AIRCRAFT. WHEN I WAS KID , I BUILT A GROUP OF THEM. JUST LOVE THIS AIRCRAFT.

  • @drbobsnightmare2521
    @drbobsnightmare2521 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The powerful engine also powered the largest prop of any fighter in the war. A 14 foot diameter four blade prop.

  • @davidcrosby3215
    @davidcrosby3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I really enjoy your videos I feel lucky to be one of the first 1000 to find you I get to say I was there at almost the beginning when you reach a million subscribers man keep up the good work

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hey there. It's highly unlikely I will get even close to a million, but thank you for believing! If I ever get there, I will surely remember the name David Crosby!

    • @davidcrosby3215
      @davidcrosby3215 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you for responding You're the first content creator to do so. Whenever it comes back around to the American planes my vote is the p38 lightning fork-tailed devil The plane had a rocky start when it was killing young pilots with different problems like compressibility Or how the props spun in the same direction just flipping planes over but they kept working on it and got the blade spinning in different directions and added hydraulic boosters. They ended up with a pretty nasty plane by the end of the war but I'm a huge clearance Kelly Johnson fan. Thanks again for responding I really enjoyed the hellcat video You're killing it

  • @jamesmorse959
    @jamesmorse959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Worth reading Raymond Lallemant's book, ' Rendezvous with Fate'. Tells his story of 609 Squadron and its conversion to Typhoons and his subsequent promotion to lead the squadron in Normandy 1944.

  • @capoamaral
    @capoamaral 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best TH-cam channel for this kind of content and to think that you're just now starting! Amazing work! Hope to see more videos! Subscribed!

  • @ThomasDoubting5
    @ThomasDoubting5 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've Flown a scale rc typhoon, and can confirm it's a beautifully stable and elegant performer barrel rolls where amazing as were loops.

  • @Zw33dDreamZ
    @Zw33dDreamZ 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great videos! I appreciate your style, the structure and concise information. Keep up the good work! Subscribed.

  • @jefferynelson
    @jefferynelson 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Video was well produced & informative for it's length. Good work.

  • @jimgoff1170
    @jimgoff1170 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Excellent presentation, my suggestion would be for some naval aircraft!

    • @AllthingsWW2
      @AllthingsWW2  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you! My next video will in fact be about a naval aircraft.

  • @aurorajones8481
    @aurorajones8481 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great vids man!

  • @jonhimself77
    @jonhimself77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disagree with the fighter aspects of the Typhoon esp vs the FW190. The Germans had no real answer to the Typhoon, the only advantage the FW190 had was roll rate (which is virtually useless at low altitude) and climb. Caught in an equal energy state at med-low level 190's stood little to no chance. The reason why you see so many combat air-air losses with Typhoons esp later in the war, is they were doing arguably the most dangerous job, flying low and heavily laden, many cases being mistaken for 190's themselves and falling foul of their own side.
    As correctly stated the Typhoons weakness was sluggish performance at altitude, much like the radial 190A which was replaced by the Dora in the same way the Tempest replaced the Typhoon.
    I'm not saying it was the best fighter, but it wasn't as bad as it is portrait - keep in mind Spitfire V's were getting roasted by 190's before the Typhoon came along.
    Good vid thou :D

  • @PeteSampson-qu7qb
    @PeteSampson-qu7qb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Funny. There was a plane coming into service at about the same time that proved to be pretty capable against the 190 down low. The P-39! The Soviets found that by removing the wing guns and some armor and "extra" stuff it could match the speed and exceed just about everything else but rate of climb. If the Brits had a few more and a little time to figure them out they could have, with the help of excellent radar interception, been very effective against any 190s they could get above. The Typhoon and Cobra had a few other relationships.
    Both failed at their designed role. Both suffered at altitude due to engine performance. And, less mentioned, both had airfoils that were suited for lighter, slower, aircraft. The Cobra never managed 400mph and the Typhoon only did it through brute force. And both evolved into far superior aircraft. It would have been interesting to see a flyoff between a Tempest and a King cobra!
    One thing they don't share is that no one asks "what if the Typhoon, and Tempest for that matter, had a turbo?" The Brits discovered with the Hawkers what the Soviets discovered with the Cobras. Use your planes to do what they do well instead of giving up because they don't do exactly what you expected.

    • @PeteSampson-qu7qb
      @PeteSampson-qu7qb 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I forgot a thing about the airfoil. The Typhoon, even with the altitude limitations of the engine, was fast at altitude. The big problem was that the airfoil was so thick that it would hit compresibility before the engine topped out and would stall in relatively mild maneuvers.

  • @QUICKSCOOB
    @QUICKSCOOB 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Loved this very informative video about one of my favourite WW2 aircraft.I have subscribed.

  • @arturodelagarza9028
    @arturodelagarza9028 ปีที่แล้ว

    AFTER SEEING THIS VIDEO I KNEW THAT THIS AIRCRAFT WAS SIMPLY BADASS. EVERYTIME I SAW THE HISTORY CHANNEL. THEY SEEM TO KNOCK THIS AIRCRAFT AS NOT REALLY GOOD. GREAT VIDEO. THANKS.

  • @coreyandnathanielchartier3749
    @coreyandnathanielchartier3749 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice video, lots of good stats and specs. It appears that the British spent a lot of time, effort, and money to come up with a short-legged Thunderbolt.

  • @matthewmitchell8941
    @matthewmitchell8941 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As always, you have done an excellent job.

  • @derekstocker6661
    @derekstocker6661 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant history of a superb aircraft, thanks for all the info you give so very well, very informative.

  • @rob5944
    @rob5944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    An interesting production, and very effective. I liked it!

  • @JAMIN.IT.DEEP.
    @JAMIN.IT.DEEP. 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thanks brings back a old friend who flue typhoon he has gone now but lives in his storys of flying good and bad received metals from queen mother
    His name is Colin Sefton

  • @JohnyG29
    @JohnyG29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    5:03 The majority of those losses (although I'd like to know where you get the +500 figure from) were from flak - as one would expect from the Typhoon's ground attack role. So the ratio is not as bad as it seems.

  • @selwyn500
    @selwyn500 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I reckon the Typhoon is the sexiest plane. The lines and curves🇦🇺😃. Wasn't much it couldn't kill.

  • @anthonywilson4873
    @anthonywilson4873 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    For the FW 190 to carry its heaviest bomb loads outer guns and ammo where removed and remaining guns limited in ammo. I cannot find anywhere that it could carry 1200kg, where did you get this would be an interesting read. Best bomb load I could find was 1000 kg with armament reduction found here: en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Focke-Wulf_Fw_190. The Typhoon was a big brute the FW 190 a lot smaller.
    If a FW 190 was doing a nuisance raid with bombs. Radar could pick them up on the way in and Typhoon could take of and catch a FW 190 before it got back to France. The rocket load 8 rockets with 60 lbs warheads (27.2 Kilos) was equivalent to a broadside from a cruiser.

  • @norbertpecheq3427
    @norbertpecheq3427 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent video!! you should note its fight against V-1 rockets and I have informations ,that Sabre engine had 2 500 HP and 3 000 Hp in emergency regime...It runs only on 150 octane fuel and was nearly impossible to make bell-landing ,because of its big and heavy propeller and big radiator...

  • @edwindavis1818
    @edwindavis1818 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My dad was ground staff in a Typhoon squadron and apparently went to Holland. I don't have his RAF serial number so cannot get his history from official sources...BUGGER!!

  • @chrispaul4599
    @chrispaul4599 ปีที่แล้ว

    At one stage I read that the Typhhoon Pilot could pull back the canopy at 20,000 feet over the Falaise Gap and smell the Corpses Rotting. Lt Col. Maine and his SAS Heavily Armed SAS Jeeps were running up and down the Columns of Retreating German Conscripts with a Mauser slung over their shoulders, Mowing Them Down, as well as the Taxi Ranks of Typhoons.

  • @stewsretroreviews
    @stewsretroreviews ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant content, I have a model of the typhoon, I prefer it to the Spitfire too. Liked and subscribed

  • @Elmer-hf1je
    @Elmer-hf1je ปีที่แล้ว

    I was disappointed you never mentioned Roland Beamont, without his input into ,and fighting for the Typhoon the air ministry would have cancelled it ! As a matter of interest to all the fans of the Typhoon I have been building a full size replica of the one Roland Beamont flew, ( as well as Paul Richey ) PR-G ,to be able to taxi but sadly not fly , using as many original parts I could find . The wings and undercarriage will be built this year , the tail is completed and the fuselage is 90 pc done , plus the cockpit is finished ! As long as the health fairy is kind to me I will finish it by 2024 🤞🤞

  • @lenkautsugi5747
    @lenkautsugi5747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When it come down to it the typhoon and p47 are some of the best fighter bomber

  • @daviddavid5880
    @daviddavid5880 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an unhealthy obsession with that motor. The Napier Sabre is just the most demented, diabolically complex, fiendishly compacted, startlingly powerful hot-rod engine ever. It's so wrong...and yet so right.

  • @cyclingnerddelux698
    @cyclingnerddelux698 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to say, I think the Typhoon looks awesome. A real war machine.

  • @Jarod-vg9wq
    @Jarod-vg9wq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    10:45 wow that is one hell of a life.

  • @richardsawyer5428
    @richardsawyer5428 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's older sibling the Hurricane paved the way showing what could be achieved in the ground attack role.

  • @davidpeters6536
    @davidpeters6536 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    My dad's friend flew Typhoons and later the Tempest in WWII.

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Hawker Typhoon suffered from the problem of having to be rushed into production. It was, in many ways, a bigger version of the Hawker Hurricane. It was followed by the much better Hawker Tempest which used a wing shape similar to that of the Spitfire which proved much better at altitude. There was a third. the Hawker Tornado which never went into service.

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but spitfire wing have little in common with Typhoon ones.

  • @letsseeif
    @letsseeif 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you for your educational video. [you'll probably have this series, but I also recommend 'Aircraft of the Fighting Powers' published annually during WW2 by Harborough Publishing]

  • @johnledlin5613
    @johnledlin5613 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    more please. Well sorted

  • @richhughes7450
    @richhughes7450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Looks like a big butch Hurricane. Awesome beasty

  • @chuckcawthon3370
    @chuckcawthon3370 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very Well Done Sir.

  • @tra779
    @tra779 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi I've only just found your channel. These videos are great! Would love to see you breakdown the Tempest or Spitfire

  • @lonzo61
    @lonzo61 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I thought the Mossie was the first production aircraft to make 400 mph.

  • @kimchipig
    @kimchipig 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your videos, count me as a fan! Looking forward to many more!

  • @stevenread1676
    @stevenread1676 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have been interesting if the Rolls Royce Vulture project would have been successful- would the Typhoon been a success from the start? This engine was even the reason the Avro Manchester (a great bomber on paper) was deemed a failiure. Would we have even have created the Lancaster if the Vulture engines were successful?

  • @user-yd3st4fi3q
    @user-yd3st4fi3q 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Another notable pilot: Baron de Selys-Longchamps, Belgian, performed an unauthorized yet successful attack on Gestapo HQ in Brussels. With a Typhoon, of course. Mark Felton has made a nice video for this mission.

  • @Biffo1262
    @Biffo1262 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Ah the shingle seat fighter bomber!