Fokker G.I - The Air Battle Over the Netherlands
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- The Fokker G.I was a highly innovative heavy fighter that awed the world when it was unveiled in 1936. It was used by the Dutch Air Force against the German invasion, being partially responsible for the heavy losses incurred by the Luftwaffe during that operation.
00:04 History
00:36 The Paris Air Show
01:33 Development
03:27 Invasion of the Netherlands
10:00 German Losses
10:58 Conclusion and Opinion
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Sources
- Holland 1940 - The Luftwaffe's first setback in the West - Ryan K. Noppen
- The Fokker G-1 - Profile publications No. 134 - B. van der Klaauw
- Fokker - The Man and the Aircraft - Henri Hegener
- Stichting Fokker G-1 - fokkerg-1.nl/index.php/nl/
- War over Holland - www.waroverholland.nl/
- Several other sources like aircraft manuals and tests
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Thanks, as a post wwII, Dutch citizen I am proud that we had the Fokker G1.
Thank you so much for giving the Fokker G.I exposure in this video. In its time it was truly an exceptional design. Also, I didn't know that the Germans lost that many planes during the invasion in 1940. Never too old to learn something. 😊
The numbers are quite mind-boggling. There are dozens of pictures of busted German aircraft in the weirdest places, such as highways and beaches. Thank you for always commenting on my videos!
Many were lost while landing on soft soil after they could not land on the airfields that were still in Dutch hands. There are pictures of many german transport planes landed on the beach, unable to take off again. This costed the germans dearly in the battle of Britain a few months later.
It is even said, that the German Operation “sea lion” (invading of England) could not continue because of all the lost Transport planes they suffort during the attack on the Netherlands
What a legendary plane❤
In May 1941, a Dutch pilot and a Fokker engineer stole a G1 from Schiphol airport and flew to England. A day later, a group of 4 did the same with a Fokker T.VIII floatplane. Neither group was aware of the others plan, but if I remember correctly the second group brought their plan forward when they heard the news of the first escape. I believe the Germans used these captured planes to test radio equipment and instruments.
That is a cool story, I wanted to include it in the video. Unfortunately, it seems the G.I that was take to Britain, was left outside in the open during the war and later scrapped. A shame.
@@AllthingsWW2 Yes correct. The metal tails were saved and with the G.I foundation if I'm correct.
Thanks for this English explanation of the G1 in the context of May 1940.
The G1 prototype had counter rotating props which inspired the P38 Lightning. Making it more manouvreble. Als the Tjech engines were unreliable and the Tsechs were overrun.
The G1 body was akin the DH Mosquito made from wood. Two man crew no drag for gunner. The front and bomb bay are the same concept.
Bergen airfield was penny wise pound foolish not stiff enough ground due to a dumb minister of war. This was compounded by the comander putting all his eggs in one basket on the conrete slab.
The Germans flew Ju 88 escorted by me 109s via the North sea feinting an attack on England. Yet the relay of info lacked that 109s didn't have the range.
Because a few G1s were hit the rest couldn't get off the ramp.
In Waalven near Rotterdam the G1s got off but the bombing and subsequent taking by German air mobile troops also took the only other operational G1 base.
In effect the small Dutch air power was quickly renderd inoperable due to bombing stupidity and especially para and air mobile forces.
Lack of radio intercoms good airwarning all prevented a better performance.
The P38 also was inspired by the twinboom Fokker D23. Tailwheel.
The Fortress Holland should have been made the central defence as a new study shows. Much time and money of the very limited funds were misused on the other lines in a irratic way.
However given the extremly quick way the military threat with Hitler coming to power in 1933 and the war starting in 1939 and we Dutch not having had a selfsufficient arms industry we were too late to catch up.
Oster and his boss Canaris should recieve much honour and credit for their opposition to Hitler.
Had the Dutch, Belgians and BEF & French been more succesfull canaris would have disposed of the guy.
Alas the Dutch army aviation botched the design by the 3rd aviator. Who weren't used.
The canons were intended but justifiably deleted for not yet reliable.
This is an excellent comment. I was going to make a criticism of the Fokker G.I's armament that didn't make the cut. The armament of eight rifle-caliber machine guns wasn’t certainly weak overall but was, in my opinion, on the light side for a heavy fighter. But I guess the Dutch didn't really have a choice there, with the lack of cannons. But this probably made it lighter, and its lower weight actually makes the G.I a middle ground between heavies, such as the 110 or the P-38. Very enjoyable aircraft to read and talk about. Best regards from Portugal.
Love your videos mate, as a combat Infantry Veteran from Australia it may seem strange but I do love Aircraft vids!! Thanks for everything you do!! My Grandfather served in WWII with the Australian Engineers and my father was a Tunnel rat with 3 Field Troop who mapped the tunnels at Ku Chi!! There is a book about them called "No Need For Hero's"!! Well worth a read!!
Thank you! So, I checked the book you suggested on Amazon. Although I'm not that interested in the Vietnam war, the book seems to be quite interesting. I will try to find the time to read it. What got me intrigued is the "(...) then they partied all night in a casino they'd built in secret." and the "(....) but fought US military police to a standstill in the bars of South Vietnam".
Keep up the videos. I'm a military historian and specialize in WW2. I also restore warbirds. You're educating people and I love it. This is one of the most beautiful aircraft during the time period.
I agree entirely, the G.I was extremely beautiful. What warbirds have you had the pleasure to restore? I would love to do that. Thank you!
@AllthingsWW2 A B-25 Mitchell, P-40, B-17, P-51, helped rebuild a Sperry ball turret from B-17's and B-24's to working (firing) condition. And various other aircraft. I'm old now and have been doing this since I was a kid. I grew up around aircraft. You know a fun video to do would be the Boulton-Paul Defiant.
Worth mentioning is a G1 kill even before the Germans invaded.
This was a British Whitley, which was shot down on 28th March 1940 over Pernis, so 6 weeks before the invasion. The registration of the Whitley was N1357, and it found itself over Rotterdam in error, after participating in a leaflet raid to Northwest Germany. One crew member was killed, the other 4 survived. The G1 pilot was also Piet Noomen.
I didn't know that. Thank you.
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Google Pat Copinger Whitley for the full story. I came across a picture of the wreckage on a train in Rotterdam, and managed to work out what plane it was. Noonen shot him down as he flew over Holland without clearance. I wrote an article about it in a local railway magazine, it was a striking story!
About the wooden G.1 in Soesterberg, currently it resides in a (semi closed) side hanger. She barely gets anny love...
there is however a D.XXI model in full display in the top part of the museum in the film/game room.
Should you be interested, they recently completed a flying reproduction/reconstruction of the D 21 in Hogeveen.
Recently they made a flying replica of the Fokker D21 , lets hope they will do the same for the fokker G1 ,
The fokker D21 was highly successful for the finish air force just imagine if the G1 indeed where delivered to Finland . Who knows what heroic tales would be told about the G1.
There is a group trying to make one fly, you can find everything about them on their website. fokkerg-1.nl/index.php/nl/
I have no doubt the Finish would have made wonders out of the G.I. Thank you!
@@AllthingsWW2 One thing i always liked about the fokker G1 that the export version had the Twin wasp designation , Wasp would have have been a great name for it .
"The Finish Wasps and How They Stung". I even got the name for the video! Now it just needs to be real. I also like how the G.I Mercury sounds. It sounds as if it's even more maneuverable.
@@AllthingsWW2 The wonderful concept and versatility of fokker aircraft , Build with further improvements and upgrades in mind . It just makes you wonder about the Fokker TV , TIX And D23 . How they would have turned out if the T.v had its intendend bomb bays and both the fokker TIX and D23 where not destroyed and fully developed .
We can just imagine or hope some one will build them ones more..
Interestingly, the Finnish government did not order the G-1. The G-1 Wasp was ordered by Spain (26 built, impounded by Holland) and Sweden (none built)
The amount of information you give is overwhelmingly good, you do not only cover the plane itself but also the role it played and all the events which happened in those day of battle.
Even as a Dutch I didn't know that Dutch air defence took such a heavy toll on the Luftwaffe. It was the sheer volume of German resources which led to a quick defeat.
But enough time was got to retreat the Queens family and the government to England, from there they could continue giving support to the Dutch people by broadcasts on "radio Oranje" and the resistance against the Germans would continue underground. These broadcasts would quickly lead to all radio receivers being impounded by the Germans and there was a hefty punishment (prison or labour camp) for having an illegal radio receiver or listening to "radio Oranje", but many people had kept a radio hidden away and listened secretly.
I didn't know about the German restrictions placed on the radio receivers. It's easy to lose yourself in thousands of books about war and overlook the suffering of the common people. I should read something about the Dutch resistance movement; I barely know anything about it. Do you have anything to recommend to me? Thank you very much for your comment.
@@AllthingsWW2 I have the story of my mum, who lived in Dordrecht during WWII. In the last winter of the war ('44-'45), which is known as the 'Hunger-Winter' when a lot of people living in the region of the Fortress Holland died of starvation, her house got searched for hidden radio's by Germans. An older German soldier who was sent to the Netherlands as a punishment after all that happened on the Eastern Front, knocked on the door of my mum's house. He told her his story about the suffering on the Eastern front and showed pictures of his kids that were in the same age of my mother at that time (18/19 years old). My mother somehow felt for him and offered him a cup of (surrogate) tea to warm a bit on that cold winter day (my grandmother at that time was furious about it). The Germans didn't find the hidden radio. But the German soldier returned the next day with some meat as a 'thank you'. Which was, during this Hunger-Winter, very welcome. My (grand)mother didn't dare to ask where it came from - it was probably confiscated from other Dutch people.
Thank you for the story on the G1. It has always been an intriguing airplane to me. I knew about the damage the Dutch inflicted on the German Luftwaffe. It has always been on my mind 'what if' more G1's were able to get airborne those days. But in the end, with the bombing of Rotterdam (which my mother witnessed from a short distance; a story she told me almost every year during 4/5 May when we commemorate the death and celebrate the Liberation of the NL's), I think the Dutch had no other option than to capitulate anyway.
@@AllthingsWW2 The Dutch resistance had a decent success by destroying a lot of identity records early on, allowing people to fake their papers, including my grandfather, but other than that it was mostly distributing underground newspapers, hiding people sought by the Germans and sabotage. The Germans had a big success against the underground operations in The Netherlands run by the British SOE, by pretending to be the resistance. Almost all British-sent agents were dropped straight into German hands, tortured and executed. This was called the Englandspiel and you can search for that term to get more information.
Violent resistance was difficult anyway because the Germans had a policy of retaliating against citizens. They would execute innocent civilians in response to a resistance attack. The resistance could rarely attack an objective that was worth such a price. The Netherlands also had some of the most fanatical Nazi's in charge, unlike most other occupied countries. Collaborating governments like in France were far less fanatical, for example.
Unfortunately, I don't read books on this topic in English, so I can't recommend anything.
For the 12:34 section, I'll give it a shot by naming these twin-engine aircraft.
1- Northrop P-61 Black Widow; 2- French Potéz (probably); 3- de Havilland DH.98 Mosquito; 4- Lockheed P-38 Lightning; 5- Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu; 6- Messerschmitt Bf 110; 7- I'm not sure it is an Avro Anson or a Bristol Blenheim; 8- Messerschmitt Me 410 Hornisse with a 50 mm Bordkannone for anti-tank hunt; 9- Petlyakov Pe-2 / Pe-3.
Correct me if I'm mistaken for the aircraft on the 2nd and 7th image. I remember there was an Italian with a similar design: the Savoia-Marchetti SM.91. I'm not sure it was based on the Fokker G.I or on the P-38 Lightning. As a suggestion for a video covering the next heavy aircraft, it would be great one covering the Italian SM.91, the Japanese Ki-45 Toryu and the American P-38 Lightning.
As always, amazing videos.
№7 is the Bristol Beaufighter, dunno about the №2 though.
By replying to my challenge, you made me really happy!
Spoiler alert for those who wish to do the challenge by themselves...
You did very well. Here are the answers!
1- Northrop P-61 Black Widow
2- Potez 631
3- de Havilland DH.98 Mosquito
4- Lockheed P-38 Lightning
5- Kawasaki Ki-45 Toryu
6- Messerschmitt Bf 110
7- Bristol Type 156 Beaufighter
8- Messerschmitt Me 410 Hornisse
9- Petlyakov Pe-3
Of the ones you suggested, both the SM.91 and Ki-45 are more likely in the near future! Thank you!
Here is the complete list
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twin-boom_aircraft
The replica in the army museum at Soesterberg is currently not on display. Moreover, most employees there don't know what you're talking about if you ask for it. I thought I was losing my mind, but eventually I found a guy who knew what I was talking about. Because I asked nicely, after a few minutes of deliberation he took me to another hangar off the North-West end of the main museum, where the G.I. replica is to be seen, crammed between other old exhibitions, covered in a thick layer of dust. A very sad sight, but at least they didn't scrap it. I hope some day a functional replica gets made, so this beautiful aircraft can get the recognition it deserves.
Thank you. I will add a correction to the description of the video.
Damn that's a shame, last time I was there (last year) they were actually fixing it up in that hanger, and repainting it, saying it would be going back into the museum at the end of the year. Sad to hear that didn't happen
Really glad to have found your channel, very solid videos
Another informative and thoroughly researched video presentation. Keep up the good work.
Hi AllthingsWW2 . I was looking in to the whole fokker G1 history for ww2 and there is an interesting article in one of the Fokker G1 books on using them in the Far east , and one of the problems was its wood construction where the glue would come apart in humid hot climates , So there was a plan to build an upgrade with a full metal body . More powerfull engines . Including the BMW 139 radial engine . An engine that quite powerful 18cilinder engine . based on the american 9 cilinder Pratt & Whitney Hornet (R-1690 ) engine . to be used on commercial aircraft of the 1930s . But used on the first prototypes of the FW190s as there was no inline engine available . Quite an old engine with no embargos as it was developed in the early 1930s and of a licences build 1924 designed hornet engine. and wide spread used on the FW200 , JU 52 ,Ju 86 etc .
But with a 1,529 horsepower. A fokker Twin Hornet would have been a nice ring as well. with a much more powerfull engines and much higher speeds .
Thanks for this great video brother. I love this aircraft. Very hard to find a model kit of this. There is one but very expensive despite being 1/72. Dutch airforce makes for an interesting subject be they often foreign makes with Dutch markings. The G.1 is all those. Beautiful aircraft. Very impressive. If only there had been more. Thank you :-)
I agree entirely. The G.I was a beautiful aircraft in a time marked by the first generation of monoplanes, which were in my opinion pretty ugly.
glad to see you have returned
Hopefully will be able to produce a few more videos in the near future! Thank you!
Was the Fokker S.14 Mach Trainer produced in significant numbers post-war? As far as I know, this was the world's first jet-powered trainer designed specifically for that role.
Thank you very much for yet another great video! I appreciate your exceptional ability to present a story of a specific plane in a very interesting manner, and at the same time to provide us with in-depth analyses and comparisons with that plane's actual or possible opponents. Keep up your good work and... would you mind covering Westland Whirlwind in one of your next videos? In my honest opinion, it was one of the most underestimated and unjustly treated WW2 warbirds. I'd just love to see it compared to Me-110 in one of your extensive analyses. :-) Thanks again!
Well, a lot of people seem to want me to cover the Westland Whirlwind. I wasn't really planning to do it before this video, but now I certainly am. I don't know if I will be able to do it justice, but I will try. Thank you very much!
Thanks again for another great video.
Thank you!
Amazing video, keep bringing attention to this glorious aircraft. We need it in Warthunder!! VOOR VOLK EN VADERLAND
Excellent video. Thanks!
Thank you!
love this video my father saw them fly and was a big fan
Compliments for this very reliable presentation of the invasion on The Netherlands in may 1940
Excellent stuff bro
Thank you!
You did your research. That is clear.....chapeau
Great video
Loved this video! My grandfather was'nt a pilot but fought at Ypenburg airfield. They managed to push the germans back but the airfield was full of burning german troopcarriers so the Dutch airplanes could'nt use it anymore.
For some good reasons I'd like to imagine this thing made entirely of metal, or at least 85%, equipped with two Pratt & Whitney r 2800s, four M2 Browning machine guns and four 20mm cannons. It would be a good heavy fighter, in my imagination of course, almost like Northrop's Black Widow, but lighter and more maneuverable.
Also, thanks for this video 😊
That would be awesome! Thank you.
De wijze van parkeren van de toestellen op het vliegveld Bergen was een enorme fout.
Good content Bro👌🏼
Thank you!
Well described.
Thank you!
Very good video, thank you 👍 ... G1 was a really good looking aircraft
Thank you. I do agree. I would certainly include the G.I on a Top 20 list of the best-looking WW2 aircraft.
I love your videos, and i would like to see you cover the Soviet Pe-3.
It will happen. Thank you!
Excellent detail and overview of this aircraft which unfortunately was given little chance to showcase itself. Perhaps the FW187 twin engined German heavy fighter (far ahead of its time) of Kurt Tank might be another aircraft you could consider reviewing. Many thanks for your great Chanel. T
I will look into it. Thank you!
Not sure if you have cover the P-38 But I'd like you see it covered
I enjoyed your video and I gave it a Thumbs Up
Thank you!
Good lookin' plane, and great art.
Thank you!
One of my favourite planes of all time. Wish there were diecast models available. Some of the last pieces of crashed ones are available to see at the Crash museum near Amsterdam, along with parts of the D.XXI
hi great video as allways but have you thought about making a video about ta152? keep up the great work
Hi! I remember your nickname from previous videos asking me for the Ta 152. I really intend on covering it, but I won't give you a date since it might depend on the availability of the manual and other primary sources. I really haven't looked into that. Thank you for the suggestion!
@@AllthingsWW2 thank you for ansfering i am looking forward to that i am sure that would be one of the best videos about that plane on TH-cam
Great video. What a great IL2 scenario to refight - Battle over the Netherlands. Would be interesting to fly a G1. Didn't Kirt Tank build a similar plane, that competed with the Bf 110 in Germany ?
Yes, that would be an awesome IL2 scenario. IL2 Blitzkrieg: The invasion of Belgium, the Netherlands, and France I would buy that immediately. I believe the plane you were referring to was the Focke-Wulf Fw 57. Thank you!
Fighter CRUISER?! I never heard of or saw that name before, but it sounds cooler than cool.
Mr. Fokker moved to the US, and his company later became North American aviation of p51 and b25 fame.
I only recently learned of this myself, with Fokker Aircraft Corporation and GM Aviation eventually evolving into the North American aircraft company.
Wow, how did I not know that? Thanks.
That’s very interesting. There was also a post war Dutch ‘Fokker’ which mainly built regional commercial airplanes. Several F-100’s still fly.
Mr Fokker died in 1939
Rubbish!
The catastrophic loss if transport planes is also why the campagne to invade Malta failed. The G1 is also the reason I snort every time the Americans praise Kelly Johnson for his “innovative “ design for the P-38.
The fokker G.I nicknamed
'de maaier' (the mower)
Didn't know that.
The aquisition of the G.I (and T.V) posed a problem for the Royal Dutch Army Air Force, which had never had twin-engined aircraft in its inventory. They had to recruit civilian airline pilots into their ranks to make up the numbers.
Oh yes, the Fokkers
Next stop: Soviet bomber, since you like to guess what comes next! 👍
@@AllthingsWW2 You probably did the TB-3 already so... hmm idk, Pe-2?
Close call there!
There are parts of G-1 are stored in TU Delft for many years. Not all delivered G-1s where fitted with guns (UK stopped delivery of Brownings) and could not used for combat. See the Dutch book.of Bart van der Klauw about the war in the Netherlands (serials taken-up).
What about the DeHavilland Mosquito ? It was made of wood so it wan't heavy but still an excellent twin engine multi purpose aircraft.
I didn't include the de Havilland Mosquito in my comparisons because it wasn't around when the Fokker G.I was facing Germany (the Mosquito first flew on November 25, 1940). My objective was to compare aircraft of the same type and time period. Thank you.
@@AllthingsWW2 I think the Mosquito was the best fighter of WW2 by the way. There was another fighter not known to public it is called Koolhoven. His factory as situated around Waalhaven airfield. This was also in Paris 1936 seen on your video
Hmmm- you omitted the Mosquito, which our relative flew with the RCAF. An excellent fighter bomber!
As per the export market the first client was the Spanish Republic who placed an order for 12 G.Ib aircraft (or 26, depending on the source) in 1937.
However they were embargoed and never delivered. By the time of German invasion they were parked at Schipol and hurriedly brought into service. I wonder if they were the same aircraft later intended for Finland.
Finland never ordered the G-1
Fokker did take in the interwar period another plane wich had a somewhat big impact in ww2: the fokker d-xxiii(d23) and it was used for test flights for what would later be the dornier do335 arrow, mostly because of the push/pull propeller system and the nosewheel system. Sadly it was dismantled in 1941 but the nose wheel design was use but changed to support the do335's front.
The Germans not only lost many planes, but also most of their paratroopers. The captured paratroopers were sent to the UK before the surrender and the Germans were very upset about not getting them back. The combination of these losses may have been a major factor in calling off the invasion of Great Britain.
Note that the Waterline was not actually intended as the defense line, but the Grebbeline. Only after this could not be held, despite an impressive defense that astonished the Germans, did the Dutch defenders pull back to the Waterline.
Yes, could you do a video on the Bell P-39 Airacobra?
I already have. Although beware it was made quite a while ago.
@@AllthingsWW2 Roger
jachtkruiser doesn't translate to heavy cruiser. 'jacht' means 'hunt', so it would rather be a hunter cruiser. The 'heavy cruiser' is just given way after the war just to give it a English name.
Not mentioning WHY the Germans bombed Rotterdam would be a sin against the brave men who fought and repelled the Germans with great success at the Afsluitdijk without getting a single loss.
The Fokker G.I model at Soesterberg is in storage, they don't want to put it back together as it would give a false depiction of the aircraft. The measurements are all wrong for example and many of the details are also wrong. So they are planning to build a new one when the funding allows it. There are even plans to build a flying model and potentially make civilian versions with modern technology. There is already a Fokker D.21 flying model (replica) in the town Hoogeveen.
Fokker was the first to design this type of aircraft, Germany, Czechoslovakia and even the US (P-38) came after the fact. The proof that this aicraft would actually be a very good option for a very long time after the war even. The design is so far ahead of it's time that only the materials available were the major issue and breaking point. They couldn't get enough build fast enough there for. However would the materials be present, this aircraft would actually have been build in all metal and gotten way stronger engines. This even so far ahead that it would have out performed the US P-38 on many levels.
You didn't add the epic story about a Dutch pilot on Airbase Leeuwarden that was ordered to fly his Fokker G.I along with a German pilot in another G.I to Germany for further study. During the brief but very humiliating fight for the Germans they called it "the forked devil" Which later was also added to the P-38. This Dutch pilot waited until they were on enough altitude, broke formation and dove straight into the cloud deck. Then flew his G.I straight to England where he got shot, but managed to land it in a field and get out before the aircraft burned completely. He was then trained to fly the Spitfire and participated in many sorties to defend the British and went over the D-Day beaches for example.
A great aircraft I wonder if more had been put into service by the time of the invasion if things would have been different
Well, I would say possibly not. The greatest problem with the Fokker G.Is was that they were either destroyed on the ground or crash-landed somewhere after their airfields were taken by German airborne troops. But it would've been interesting to see a squadron of G.Is operating from France or Britain, further away from the front line, and what results they could obtain. Thank you for you comment.
With the Netherlands defense effort split between The homeland and it's far eastern empire and the relatively small Dutch population once the Nazis invasion began they never stood a chance.
The Dutch Army Air Corps (NOT Air Force! The Army Air Corps was part of the army) was not ready for more complex twin engined aircraft. There was shortage in experienced ground personnel and infra structure was far from sufficient
So, might one realistically consider the Fokker G1 to be source/inspiration of later allied twin-boom airplanes?
Well, that's a very interesting question. I find it very hard to tell what really influenced what, but I might not be the right person to answer this. I'll try, though. In the interwar period, everybody was copying everybody to some extent. If you're talking specifically about the P-38, the US had made several aircraft with twin-boom configuration. As an example, several Sikorsky planes in the late 20s, such as the Sikorsky S-38 or the Stearman-Hammond Y-1 in the 30s. Italy had the Caproni bombers during WWI, which can be considered to have a twin-boom configuration. But, to be fair, when it comes to monoplane twin-engine twin-boom fighters, the Fokker G.I was quite unique. Or at least I don't know of other mass produced and created before it. So it could have inspired many other later models. But as I said, I might not be the best person to answer this. Thank you for your comment.
THE P-38 WAS DISCOVERED BY ACCIDENT; ON A TRIN BOUND FOR CALAFORNIA A DESIGNER DROPED HIS MATCHES AND THEY LANDED IN A HASHTAG PATTERN INWHICH HE DREW UP YHE DESIGN FOR THIS AIRCRAFT. AND THAT IS WHAT I COULD FIND OUT ABOUT THIS AIRCRAFT. U BOAT COMMANDER 157@@AllthingsWW2
Can you do the Bristol Beaufighter?
I certainly will. Haven't decided if before or after the Westland Whirlwind. Thank you.
@@AllthingsWW2 maybe after the Westland Whirlwind
Doing the Beaufighter or whirlwind would be nice 😊
Whirlwind will come first!
Definitely a good looking airplane
Loved to see this video. I still remember seeing the replica (if it's still the same one) when I was 9 years old. That moment changed my life.
I only read the HuBoBe description in unofficial accounts before today.
I do remember anecdotes about a pilot flying his 3rd plane in 2 days (biplane by that point), dipping in and out of the Amsterdam canals to fight Me's. Although that might just have been a tall tale.
the replica is not in the museum anymore because of its bad condition its in storage
Thank you. I will add a correction to the description of the video.
Fokker was forced during WW2 to construct floating devices for German aircraft.
After WW2 many Fokker workers suddenly owned a small fishing boat, since most were not constructed to specifications. Makes you think about Dutch quality ( or not ) ?
🎉 my father now died in 2000 at the age of 67 I think at the moment made in his youth a model in pure aluminium sun and filed shaped bum from aluminium cast from one piece one block into this delicate form and unfortunately one of my sisters out of that is an ashtray who smokes nowadays anymore nobody but she took it.
Fokker did make military jets after the war including the Machtrainer
Any thing onTheKI46
My father was somehow involved with this plane. He told me dacades ago that the g1’s had not enough ammunition. The dutch airforce hooed that the sight of the g1’s would scare the german fighters. He also told me that the dutch aa gun which was placed at the ‘afsluitdijk’ was aimed straight at the upcoming german troops. Thus resulting in tear of the foundation plate after firing. The guys who use the aa to stop german tanks were later punished for misuse of material…. Two stories which show naif thinking and democracy at its best.
like all dutch designs the problem is with the engines but its not easy for a small nation to build its own aero engines
1 P61 Black widow, 3 Mosquito, 4 P38 Lighting, 6 Bf 110, 7 is a Beau fighter. The rest I don’t recognize.
Power on, we ain’t taking any chances, get behind that 110 send him back to the fatherland in pieces, the others, one false move flame them.
Sounds like a bar fight to me.
Westland whirlwind please, and please don't fall for the "useless engines" excuse, but do look at the wrong props being fitted
Thank you for the suggestion! Will bear that in mind!
I visited The Netherlands to meet up with Asian woman I met online. That replica mentioned is really cool.
A definite have to see for aviation lovers. Great video.
Is it on display again? I visited the new military museum quite a few years ago and then it was't in the collection. Last time I saw it in the old museum it was in need of som tlc.
Thank you!
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Oh, I just meant just seeing it was cool, like how big it was and everything
1939 We had a contract with spain to make 50G1.
1940.when the war started their was made a 40 for spain.
Never started with this 40, (because their were no pilots) against the Germans, so their were bombed
After capturing the undamaged bridge "Moerdijk" it was over. Dutch airforce made an attempt with Fokker T5 with a near hit. If this was a succes then the paratroopers were doomed. This was the reason why Kurt Student asked for a strategic bombing bombing of the bridges in the centre of Rotterdam were the could not break through. Bombing Rotterdam (like Warsaw)was te answer to force the surrender. The Dutch government was already in London the firtst day(of4).
4:12 they're look like Austro-Hungary 2.0
omg ww2 things go so hard
i still dont get why the dutch didnt lounche there planes as soon as germany crossed there border
To bad the f.k.55 didn't see more development
i don't think it was paralel development for the fokker wulf company to design something so similar
clearly the design was well received in paris and there was no real structure to protect patents across borders especially when one country is a dictatorship
essentially they probably did copy it but I'd imagine that whomever was in charge had to compete with other designers and for precious resources and it was likely never finetuned hence perhaps the cheap looking cockpit and general result
I notice that you are very very careful with your pronunciation of "Fokker"
hey,
well done, nice video.
one comment: the last song that you used as background music (Geuzenlied) is not a Dutch patriotic though some english sources on youtube mislabel it as such. That particular song was the party song of the treasonous NSB party, who were basically Dutch Nazi's which fought alongside the Germans, with most of their leadership wanting the Netherlands to be fully annexed & integrated into Nazi-Germany. Might be worth an annotation in the video description.
It's a shame though, because the music behind the song is pretty decent.
je bedoeld dat ze het geuzenlied gekaapt hebben, dat wil niet zeggen dat niet NSB'ers het nu niet meer mogen gebruiken toch? net zoals de Duitse oorlogsmarsen.
Very neat aircraft. Did not know the Dutch had such things. Hitler destroyed Germany and was the cause of much suffering in Europe.
The Dutch destroyed 20-25% of the German airforce (Luftwaffe) during the nazi's attack on the Netherlands.
The nazi's had not recovered from these losses before the (air) battle of Britain began.
Even according to many nazi luftwaffe officers the losses taken by de Dutch defense were a huge factor in failing to defeat great Britain.
Which led to D-day, Market Garden and eventually the collapse of the nazi's.
Sadly these huge consequences of the Dutch defenses are hardly ever mentioned by modern 'historians'.
small correction. rotterdam was bombed AFTER the capitulation of the dutch government
At least state the facts. Rotterdam was only mistakenly bombed because the Dutch waited till the last minute of the german ultimatum, waited to long and the germans were unable to call back their bombers which already had taken off. The point is, the dutch surrendered before the bombing of Rotterdam. History is a lie the victors agreed upon. Napoleon
This has already been proven to be nonsense. There are records of the Germans receiving the telegram to delay the bombing of Rotterdam, because of negotiations. It was clearly received in time to be send to and received by the bombers, who would only reel in their radio antenna’s 15 min or so before starting their bombing. Kesselring even contradicts himself about it in his own memoires. The fact is, German command (read Kesselring and probably Göring) never send a message to the bombers. Rotterdam was going to be bombed regardless. As an act of revenge most likely. German para‘s north of Rotterdam were on the verge of having to surrender their last position to Dutch counter attacks. Among the para‘s was Görings protogé Von Sponeck. A German paratrooper General, close to Göring, surrendering to the Dutch would be an embarrasment. Some German bombers did not drop their bombs, because of the agreement to abort when they saw red flares in the sky, which were fired by German ground troops. After the bombing a second wave was being made ready to take off to hit Rotterdam a second time, because it had not surrendered yet. Which they could only have known if they were in contact with German ground forces, which would have undoubtably told them again not to bomb, because negotiations were going on. The fact that Kesselring and maybe Göring ordered for another wave to be send, clearly indicates that they were planning to bomb the city regardless whether or not negotiations were going on, which by the time of this second wave they clearly knew. The second wave was in the end called off, because the city surrendered later that day.
Gaylord Fokker? The pal from the movie?
One of the most overhyped aircraft ever ........ Basically lead to the failed 'heavy fighter' idea , which where only useful if you had air superiority or as night fighters
I wouldn't go so far as to say it's overhyped. But I can understand that you would see things differently from me. The heavy fighters were misused in the early part of the conflict, but most air forces ended up finding a place for them. As an example, I wouldn't consider the Mosquito, the P-38, or the Bf 110 failed aircraft in any form. Thank you.