Great discussion from wonderful people. Would love to see a few more ethnicities represented here though. The Global South has so much to teach us about prayer!
Personally, I’d love to see all of these folks again, sitting down for these types of discussion. Maybe a couple times in the year? There is much wisdom among this group, and I thank God for each of them.
Yes Plz! These gifts are rare to see & teach & inspire me deeply. Plz do more videos like these. To Tyler, all of your videos I've seen have been wonderful mind & heart opening gifts to me. Professor Tim, I'm a long time student of The Bible Project Classroom, WOW! To have access to each of you! I am so grateful.
@@rachelmarie8067 Let's focus on having knowledgeable, wise, mature, and virtuous followers of Jesus speak and focus less on the color of their skin or where they grew up :)
I was crying when Pete was talking about using the doodling and drawing part of the brain to connect to God! That’s exactly what us artists have been exploring and it’s so undermined by the church…
I agree. There is a movement today where artistic expression in the church is increasing in various ways. God created us, to create, and we can glorify Him in all we do. I LOVED this video, have watched it 4X. About a decade ago, homeschooling our kids, we would doodle little proverbs in a tiny book for fun. As a visual learner... I've always struggled with 'words' and remembering scripture. Visual note taking and doodling really helps brains who prefer to learn that way - learn and remember. To hear Pete talk about it was mind-blowingly affirming. Sounds like you are an artist, may you be encouraged in this area! 🥰
Love this Tyler, I have been in recent months literally disciplined to have the intake of the Word of God, first thing in the morning and last thing at night as a way to sanitize my thoughts. Other than that I literally have a conversation throughout my day with the Holy Spirit and He has taught me somehow to be able to pray in my mind and be able to do whatever I need to do at work at the same time. I find myself receiving words and directions from Him and constantly, and He has become my closest friend and my Counselor in all things. I ask Him what He thinks even for things that are apparently trivial, but I've come to know that He actually loves that. And because of that lifestyle, I can honestly say that I feel His presence constantly irrespective what is going on around me. Psalm 143:8 ESV [8] Let me hear in the morning of your steadfast love, for in you I trust. Make me know the way I should go, for to you I lift up my soul.
Love this! I don’t know any of these people, but I think I was lead to watch this because I’ve been struggling with ‘unplugging’ to connect with God as someone with ADHD. The comment the gentleman made to ‘pray the way God made you’ literally just set me free! God is so good, He knows how much I’ve been beating myself up about this! Like I’m so shocked, no doubt that was truly for me. Thank You God! 🙌🥹
As a busy mom, This brought me to tears. Thank you for these truths! Especially what Pete had to say, about finding Jesus in the changing of dirty diapers and then using focused times with Jesus, just as that.
Thank you for including Christine Caine. It's so valuable to have a woman's voice on a prayer panel, and she is very wise. This was a great discussion. Thank you!
YES. It reminds me of how much Jesus has redeemed women and our place in society. She is such a godly example for women, and she has wisdom for both men and women to offer!
Wow this made me think. I realized now after watching you talk about different kinds of prayer for half an hour. That my morning walks to work are in a way a prayer. I also realized that when I presently listen to the birds chirping and animals in my walk I have a heightened feeling of Gods presence around me, this always make me smile and makes me feel good and relaxed.
I really appreciate Pete’s input. I feel like a dualism was indeed starting to form in the conversation here; a sort of separating the “mundane” from the “sacred” when indeed Christ’s presence is not locked into the quiet and aloof. Making prayer into a sort of esoteric practice. Although there is a time for quiet contemplation, Christ is not exclusively locked into that neat little frame. You can experience Christ through the most mundane things, by simply remembering his imminent presence. Theoria Physike!
The garden could also mean Gethsemane. Where we weep, struggle for God to intervene and it's hard. It could also mean the garden of the empty tomb where God answers prayer and we are excited and awe struck. Whatever garden we are with Him in Paradise because they are His gardens. Amen ❤
As someone who is a mom, everything changed the moment we realize this little life was given to me to care for, to love, to keep safe, to nurture, to hold, to mold. I realized the Love of God was all of these things for me... through the 3 am feedings... the diaper changes... their thriving, their milestones. All of these reminded me daily to love unconditionally, to be compassionate, to be a resource to others. To being grateful everyday for all of these moments. Being a mom transformed my life to see God as a beautiful father. And looking to him as the best teacher to be a mom. I'm so grateful for this fellowship.
I love ending my day with examen of prayer with thankfulness at the end of the day. Remembering and noticing where was our Savior showing up in my life
This.was.wonderful. I’m almost 62, been a believer for 40 years. And I learned things in this. Huge things. Exciting things. Thanks for propelling me in to a new and precious season with Jesus in prayer.
Why must we criticize everything in the church if it fails to meet some element of cultural diversity? We had both sexes represented here, as well as various ages. Let’s be grateful for the wisdom and appreciate their willingness and sacrifice to share with us! Stop looking for what’s missing just so we can point out the perceived flaws.
Thank you all for this absolutely edifying conversation, and for sharing your life stories with us too. I am particularly thankful to have Chris Caine be a part of this--she certainly shared some distinct perspectives as a woman & mother, and that was so encouraging to hear!
Love the thought about how ours thoughts before bed and when we wake can shape our thinking and lives. It reminds me of the hymn Be you my vision -"be thou my best thought in the day and the night". May that be our hearts and prayers to our saviour and redeemer.
This was an incredible round table and I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE that no one's prayer life looked the same. We always wonder if we're doing this right because ours doesn't look like someone else's. But here out of 5 people, they all had different methods of prayer and different things the Lord has been working on them through prayer. Our God is so vast that He can be available for every single moment in the day for every single person, no matter where you are in the physical and spiritual. 😭🙌🏻❤️🕊📖✝️
This is by far the most practical and impactful video on prayer that I have ever watched. I’m really struggling with spiritual burnout right now so this is exactly what I needed :)
Thank you four so much for a wonderful session. My wife died just under 2 1/2 years ago and as you might expect my spirtiual life has gone off center; I pray several times a day (often in unusual places such as walking her dog), don't read the scriptures enough or attend enough on Sunday (long story) but I know that a good work has been done in me and I know I could never abandon my oldest friend no matter how many more zingers I have ahead. Saturday would have been our 40th anniversary so I prayed a lot that day and went to the graveside with flowers though I couldn't bear to stay long .... but prayed in the car the whole way home. In my university days I was exposed to a lot of prayer traditions so have tried a lot but like your guests, I know when to stick to the tried and true and when I'm mostly in awe.
Practice the presence of God by Brother Lawrence While he did everything , including washing the dishes, He spoke to God. It's like "hanging out" with God in doing life. We take Him with us! It's not all reclusive or quiet. It's active and productive, too. Being alone with God can be within us in a busy space. Kinestheticly , yes! Connecting with God during any productive activity, sometimes without conversation. We are not double minded but mindful. This is good.... and there is more!
Heard about Brother Lawrence from both Watchman Nee and Witness Lee. They highly recommend "practice the presence of God" book. I think its time to read it.
Also Pete’s comment, “Most of the books on spirituality have been written by introverts”… i am def not an introvert. Just that profound observation freed me sooooo much from a lot of what I have read about prayer. I do find stillness really helpful and necessary to hear the “whisper” of God, but man. I hear him on the go a lot too, and when i am in the middle conversation with others. That “unceasing prayer” convo, so helpful.
Thank you so much for this conversation. It has truly blessed my soul. God bless you all for taking the time to share. Thank you Jesus for sharing your love through these wonderful brothers and sisters. 🙏🏻✝️🙌🏻♥️🕊️
Wow. This was incredible. I could listen to all of you talk for hours. Thank you all so much for sharing. Thank you Tyler for pulling them all together. This is what I needed to hear.
I really appreciated Pete’s reminder of how okay, and ultimately important, it is to integrate prayer into every aspect of our life. So often, we compartmentalize the “Christian” parts of our life when Christ desires to be part of every aspect of our lives. As a dad of 6, soon to be 7, kids, I can totally relate to the sanctification of working through the mindset shift that kids aren’t a distraction from God but exactly where He often wants me to find him.
Thank you for your honesty and transparency. Great facilitation Tyler. Thank you for making it practical and understandable, and making the rest of us feel normal amongst the five most incredible people who's lives, thoughts and wisdom highly influence my life (for the better). Would love to see more of you all!
So beautiful - a collective of brothers and a sister whom I appreciate, sitting and sharing together honesty and wisdom from the same Spirit - this one is a keeper. 🙂
To me, Tim Mackie is so spiritual, he really understood unceasing prayer. Unceasing prayer is not a religiously designed plan of prayer, it is to be aware of the presence of God and his creative and merciful power for each of us his children at every moment! This is the paradise! It is now and here when we are in GOD'S presence
When I first became a Christian in 1972, I prayed in the spirit for an hour a day. God would meet me so incredibly. As my life progressed I no longer did or could do this. I really needed a new or deeper way to have this through my day. Thank you
I ended up here at 4 in the morning, when I should’ve/could’ve used this time in prayer, but I wanted the dopamine hit. I’m sure the Holy Spirit used this conversation to reveal and guide me into deeper intimacy. Looking forward to reading the book!
The church is in good hands when John Piper, Michael Youssef and other great God loving pastors and leaders are gone.. although they're never truly gone since I watch Charles Stanley every Sunday morning and he's always.. ALWAYS leading me towards a closer walk with God! But our next group of leaders are so led by the Spirit too! Thank you all for all you do ❤ (Just started fasting weekly because of your leading John Mark.. Lots to learn yet on that but it's definitely a work in progress that is bringing into a closer relationship with my Father!)
This is incredibly powerful insight. Prayer is paradise here, the garden now. Its our ability to connect to reality, to the intimate presence of God and surrender to Him to be at rest. Favorite tips from this: -Pray often, routinely, and earnestly -Combat our 'facts' with the Truth (focus more on Word of God rather than world/circumstances) -Find intentional quiet time to connect; especially first thing in the morning and last thing before bed (no Bible, no breakfast) -Acknowledge and recognize the presence of God and remember/meditate on His insights/scripture often
-Be fully transparent and honest before God rather than polished/impersonal (He knows our heart and is eternally merciful) -Pray the Scriptures (Psalm 5, Lord's Prayer) or pre-written prayers as guide -Practice varied prayer methods -Tune in to what the Lord is saying, pay attention to His revelations/reminders throughout the day
Oh my gosh who are you amazing people? Your sharing is what I’ve been longing to hear. This information and model is so needed in the church today. I want to learn more.🙏🏻🇨🇦🙏🏻
Literally this has been my struggle since becoming a mom … quiet time with God … God Himself has led me to such an adventure in it rather than my own control and expectations. Thank you for sharing, it reaches me so deeply I could cry (and I don’t cry!) ❤
Thank you all for your honesty and openness. The whole conversation was really helpful, but especially the end as you shared what God is doing with you right now.
I like observing how the conversation starts more self focused and as things progress we see more of The Spirit flowing through them, bringing to their minds more of Him, in contrast to being more about what they're ego's think. Great conversation!
Unceasing prayer is something central in the lives of Eastern Orthodox Christians - not just monastics but laity as well. There's an ancient tradition there going back to the earliest days of the Church that is well worth digging into. "The Jesus Prayer" by Kallistos Ware would be a solid intro for anyone who's curious.
The Jesus prayer is vain repetition. It should be a last resort for someone under demonic attack. One is better off reading, memorizing, meditating on the psalter. Eastern Orthodoxy has a lot of useless tradition and bad habits from backsliding pagans. The early church "fathers" are worshiped and because they are "first" but being the first they are also coming from heavily pagan roots. This is obvious in how they cling to their idolatry and fake saints they worship. It is rebranded catholicism and the schism was fake.
I'd love to see how worship through song comes into play with intimacy. For me I find I transcend to a blissful paradise through sweet song to the lord in addition to prayer through song. I haven't heard it mentioned yet but I think that is one portal to paradise for those who have the gift!
As a stay at home, dad, the wiping away of the wet it paralleling the cleansing of our sin got me 😭 🙌❤️🔥 to take it further, you can even relate that to the priestly sacrificial system. Jesus will be praise weather I am cleaning dishes, a diaper, or spilled milk.
I wish they would keep beginners in mind in all of these conversations. Because they use systems of prayers and other spiritual strategies with titles which many of us have never heard about and just keep getting lost in all of it. Nevertheless, overall it was a blessing to listen to this!
Thank you for this! The last question at the end was SO encouraging to me. Seeing these leaders I admire still growing, still struggling and wrestling with things… It fights the temptation to idolize them or diminish my own walk with God as less “impressive” or whatever. Thank you to each for the vulnerability of sharing a current growth area.
This is full of beautiful wisdom, thoroughly enjoyed it! The only thing I'd say is that I heard marriage mentioned a few times which is totally fine and makes complete sense in the context and nuances of the discussion but for those of us who are single, it can make us feel a little isolated as we can't relate to that. But overall, lovely conversation.
Its clear that so many people in my own church family feel like they dont "pray correctly" and feel so scared to pray audibly. Love the "resting" language. Thank god for you folks.
I love the totally different perspectives. Not one is wrong - we all have a way to access God. He's right with us instantly. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts! I love the depth of sincerity! Really loved Pete Greig about the brain! Always praying for Jesus to move in different parts of my brain and ask Him a lot about how I can, "put on the mind" of Christ! Also, love Tim Mackie' s thoughts about subjectivity. Thank you so much! Christine Caine, love the honesty about on the move and prayers for others! This is the body of Christ that I want to be built in with! Blessings!
Just listening to the first answer Tim made, makes me remember how much life I received listening to their deep revelations on bible project it felt like experiencing new rivers of fresh living water
I love the example the man gave of connecting with God while changing a diaper. The light bulb went off in my understanding by this, as someone who deals with ADHD. Thank you!
Wow, when she said not wanting to because God with changer her heart. I so feel that way about praying for my mother. Over and over she abandoned me. Now, I’m the one need to be there for her and I don’t want to.
As someone who works overnights 4-5 days a week for the last 5 years. I very much miss a morning routine to attempt this. My days and nights all blend together.
Caleb Pennock, I hear you! I work nights as well! But often when I get home I am too awake to go to sleep! So I make it a routine to worship the LORD and pray! It's so amazing how the LORD meets us as we set aside time for HIM! My prayer life has really been so sweet! As a matter of fact, the LORD continues to minister to my heart through the night! He gives me scripture and worship songs! So often HE is the first thing I consider when I awaken! So GOD bless you on your journey in prayer! 💞🙏💞
This was beautiful. Thank you Tyler for bringing this group together. It is so valuable to have everyone involved speaking over us and telling us it’s ok to connect with Gd in a personal and unique way. And it’s even better to learn what that looks for yourself Gd, now and in future seasons.
Love love love this! Maybe my favorite part was toward the end… When Tim Mackie was talking about hearing from God. Yep, Tim. You’re way smarter than me, but this one I know … I call it being a “ first class noticer “… that’s no coincidence. When we become first class noticers , there’s no denying God’s handprint !
Woooooowwww! What a discussion! I think that most popular questions and misconceptions about prayer are given good initial solutions right here. Thank you!
When I forget to be thankful my prayer life grows cold. Thankfulness really is, from what I can see, the foundation of prayer. "Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving". ~ Colossians 4:2
I think we often forget what happened in the temple when Christ died. That veil that separated us from God was torn and the Holy of Holies - was opened to us As such, there is nowhere we can be in this universe where God is not. Emmanuel, God is with us! Let us remember to take off our shoes, wherever we are, whatever we're doing, because we are on holy ground and our loving Father is with us in the eternal now. This is how we pray unceasingly and do everything in faith.
This is such a gift, to witness this discussion from so many wise and humble individuals! Could you please invite Francis Chan to your next discussion?!?
Thank you so much everyone. I just want to say how beautiful it is to see so many wonderful men leading this conversation and thank you Christine for brining your wealth of experience xx
You guys, so refreshing and so real on earth as is heaven we go. Timelessness! Sanctified entirely. Its like a transplant of everything i am to everything God dreams for me! Dangerous to read the gospels according to Paul and his letters! Ceaselessness! Love it, relaxing into God and unclenching my nervous system, my reader of life in me! Blessings!
So I thought I was pretty smart and spiritually mature until I watched these Christian intellectuals talk😂. I can appreciate the growth my mind had to take just to understand the vocabulary 😮. At the end I realized that we are all different, have different relationships with God and maturity levels. I love Christine and her transparency ❤. I can relate to her best, but hearing all these other men speak of their prayer journeys was motivating and humbling and reassuring as well. I love the diversity of the Body.😊
Love this conversation. From very early on, I've felt the presence of God by my side, almost like a whisper in my heart. These discussions remind me of an image that is impressed in my mind from C.S. Lewis' book, Out of the Silent Planet. The idea of "light being," (angels, God`s Spirit?), are constantly surrounding us, but we can't see them in our world because so many distractions blind us. I think of this as I make time to be still and approach the throne of God.
Great discussion from wonderful people. Would love to see a few more ethnicities represented here though. The Global South has so much to teach us about prayer!
Personally, I’d love to see all of these folks again, sitting down for these types of discussion. Maybe a couple times in the year? There is much wisdom among this group, and I thank God for each of them.
I agree completely.
Yes Plz! These gifts are rare to see & teach & inspire me deeply. Plz do more videos like these. To Tyler, all of your videos I've seen have been wonderful mind & heart opening gifts to me. Professor Tim, I'm a long time student of The Bible Project Classroom, WOW! To have access to each of you! I am so grateful.
Agree but with a more diverse representation:)
@@rachelmarie8067 Shai line would be a wonderful addition to this discussion
@@rachelmarie8067 Let's focus on having knowledgeable, wise, mature, and virtuous followers of Jesus speak and focus less on the color of their skin or where they grew up :)
Tim Mackie.. what a treasure!
It’s nice to see Portland engage with teachers from other areas
I'm tearing up at Christine's comments about motherhood and prayer. Thank you for including her.
How the heckin’ heck did you manage to get, like, almost all my favourite people to listen to in one interview?! This is GOLD. Thank you for this.
And all the people they're quoting. Guess we have a little family being created :)
Heckin' heck!? You sound like my family 😂😂😂
Imagine watching a morning show with these fine people? This has helped me grow in my learning.
I was crying when Pete was talking about using the doodling and drawing part of the brain to connect to God! That’s exactly what us artists have been exploring and it’s so undermined by the church…
I used to carry a sketchbook to church and sketch the people in church. It actually helped me listen better. 😊
I agree. There is a movement today where artistic expression in the church is increasing in various ways. God created us, to create, and we can glorify Him in all we do. I LOVED this video, have watched it 4X. About a decade ago, homeschooling our kids, we would doodle little proverbs in a tiny book for fun. As a visual learner... I've always struggled with 'words' and remembering scripture. Visual note taking and doodling really helps brains who prefer to learn that way - learn and remember. To hear Pete talk about it was mind-blowingly affirming. Sounds like you are an artist, may you be encouraged in this area! 🥰
How do we incorporate this better in the church? What are some of your recommendations?
Love this Tyler, I have been in recent months literally disciplined to have the intake of the Word of God, first thing in the morning and last thing at night as a way to sanitize my thoughts. Other than that I literally have a conversation throughout my day with the Holy Spirit and He has taught me somehow to be able to pray in my mind and be able to do whatever I need to do at work at the same time. I find myself receiving words and directions from Him and constantly, and He has become my closest friend and my Counselor in all things. I ask Him what He thinks even for things that are apparently trivial, but I've come to know that He actually loves that. And because of that lifestyle, I can honestly say that I feel His presence constantly irrespective what is going on around me.
Psalm 143:8 ESV
[8] Let me hear in the morning of your steadfast love, for in you I trust. Make me know the way I should go, for to you I lift up my soul.
Good Stuff
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Love this! I don’t know any of these people, but I think I was lead to watch this because I’ve been struggling with ‘unplugging’ to connect with God as someone with ADHD. The comment the gentleman made to ‘pray the way God made you’ literally just set me free! God is so good, He knows how much I’ve been beating myself up about this! Like I’m so shocked, no doubt that was truly for me. Thank You God! 🙌🥹
As a busy mom, This brought me to tears. Thank you for these truths! Especially what Pete had to say, about finding Jesus in the changing of dirty diapers and then using focused times with Jesus, just as that.
Yes, that moved my heart too. The sacredness of the mundane.
Thank you for including Christine Caine. It's so valuable to have a woman's voice on a prayer panel, and she is very wise. This was a great discussion. Thank you!
I concur 🙋🏾♀️
@@koalalou68 Yes we need to hear more women's voices among men's preaching
YES. It reminds me of how much Jesus has redeemed women and our place in society. She is such a godly example for women, and she has wisdom for both men and women to offer!
Amen, Cori! Thank you for saying that.
Wow this made me think. I realized now after watching you talk about different kinds of prayer for half an hour. That my morning walks to work are in a way a prayer. I also realized that when I presently listen to the birds chirping and animals in my walk I have a heightened feeling of Gods presence around me, this always make me smile and makes me feel good and relaxed.
I really appreciate Pete’s input. I feel like a dualism was indeed starting to form in the conversation here; a sort of separating the “mundane” from the “sacred” when indeed Christ’s presence is not locked into the quiet and aloof. Making prayer into a sort of esoteric practice. Although there is a time for quiet contemplation, Christ is not exclusively locked into that neat little frame. You can experience Christ through the most mundane things, by simply remembering his imminent presence. Theoria Physike!
@Abner Rubio, I agree with you.
The garden could also mean Gethsemane. Where we weep, struggle for God to intervene and it's hard. It could also mean the garden of the empty tomb where God answers prayer and we are excited and awe struck. Whatever garden we are with Him in Paradise because they are His gardens. Amen ❤
Dude I love this, this is what I was thinking as well
As someone who is a mom, everything changed the moment we realize this little life was given to me to care for, to love, to keep safe, to nurture, to hold, to mold. I realized the Love of God was all of these things for me... through the 3 am feedings... the diaper changes... their thriving, their milestones. All of these reminded me daily to love unconditionally, to be compassionate, to be a resource to others. To being grateful everyday for all of these moments. Being a mom transformed my life to see God as a beautiful father. And looking to him as the best teacher to be a mom. I'm so grateful for this fellowship.
I love ending my day with examen of prayer with thankfulness at the end of the day. Remembering and noticing where was our Savior showing up in my life
This.was.wonderful. I’m almost 62, been a believer for 40 years. And I learned things in this. Huge things. Exciting things. Thanks for propelling me in to a new and precious season with Jesus in prayer.
“The way of a pilgrim” look it up and read it. Changed my prayer life.
Thank you for these thoughts. Having some diversity would add unique perspective and flavour on this important topic.
Why must we criticize everything in the church if it fails to meet some element of cultural diversity? We had both sexes represented here, as well as various ages. Let’s be grateful for the wisdom and appreciate their willingness and sacrifice to share with us! Stop looking for what’s missing just so we can point out the perceived flaws.
Thank you all for this absolutely edifying conversation, and for sharing your life stories with us too. I am particularly thankful to have Chris Caine be a part of this--she certainly shared some distinct perspectives as a woman & mother, and that was so encouraging to hear!
Love the thought about how ours thoughts before bed and when we wake can shape our thinking and lives. It reminds me of the hymn Be you my vision -"be thou my best thought in the day and the night". May that be our hearts and prayers to our saviour and redeemer.
This was an incredible round table and I absolutely LOVE LOVE LOVE that no one's prayer life looked the same. We always wonder if we're doing this right because ours doesn't look like someone else's. But here out of 5 people, they all had different methods of prayer and different things the Lord has been working on them through prayer. Our God is so vast that He can be available for every single moment in the day for every single person, no matter where you are in the physical and spiritual. 😭🙌🏻❤️🕊📖✝️
Without a table. 😊
This is by far the most practical and impactful video on prayer that I have ever watched. I’m really struggling with spiritual burnout right now so this is exactly what I needed :)
Amen.
"No Bible, No Breakfast", is legendary!
Thank you four so much for a wonderful session. My wife died just under 2 1/2 years ago and as you might expect my spirtiual life has gone off center; I pray several times a day (often in unusual places such as walking her dog), don't read the scriptures enough or attend enough on Sunday (long story) but I know that a good work has been done in me and I know I could never abandon my oldest friend no matter how many more zingers I have ahead. Saturday would have been our 40th anniversary so I prayed a lot that day and went to the graveside with flowers though I couldn't bear to stay long .... but prayed in the car the whole way home. In my university days I was exposed to a lot of prayer traditions so have tried a lot but like your guests, I know when to stick to the tried and true and when I'm mostly in awe.
Beautifully said! So much appreciation for all of them and their honesty as they journey just like any of us.
I stressed not being a morning person then I thought … Hebrew days start at our night. ❤
Practice the presence of God
by Brother Lawrence
While he did everything , including washing the dishes, He spoke to God. It's like "hanging out" with God in doing life. We take Him with us! It's not all reclusive or quiet. It's active and productive, too. Being alone with God can be within us in a busy space. Kinestheticly , yes! Connecting with God during any productive activity, sometimes without conversation. We are not double minded but mindful.
This is good.... and there is more!
Totally agree Resa
Heard about Brother Lawrence from both Watchman Nee and Witness Lee. They highly recommend "practice the presence of God" book. I think its time to read it.
That book blew me away! A treasure for sure!
That book changed my life
Girlllll you nailed….well said. Thank you
Also Pete’s comment, “Most of the books on spirituality have been written by introverts”… i am def not an introvert. Just that profound observation freed me sooooo much from a lot of what I have read about prayer. I do find stillness really helpful and necessary to hear the “whisper” of God, but man. I hear him on the go a lot too, and when i am in the middle conversation with others. That “unceasing prayer” convo, so helpful.
Thank you so much for this conversation. It has truly blessed my soul. God bless you all for taking the time to share. Thank you Jesus for sharing your love through these wonderful brothers and sisters.
🙏🏻✝️🙌🏻♥️🕊️
So beautifully transparent, almost poetic in places. I have listened over and over. Thank you all.
Wow. This was incredible. I could listen to all of you talk for hours. Thank you all so much for sharing. Thank you Tyler for pulling them all together. This is what I needed to hear.
Yes yes!! 🥳
Comer has an awesome podcast and he is one that can really capture my attention.
I really appreciated Pete’s reminder of how okay, and ultimately important, it is to integrate prayer into every aspect of our life. So often, we compartmentalize the “Christian” parts of our life when Christ desires to be part of every aspect of our lives. As a dad of 6, soon to be 7, kids, I can totally relate to the sanctification of working through the mindset shift that kids aren’t a distraction from God but exactly where He often wants me to find him.
Speak it to me again Holy Spirit when I so easily move on or forget!
Thank you for your honesty and transparency. Great facilitation Tyler. Thank you for making it practical and understandable, and making the rest of us feel normal amongst the five most incredible people who's lives, thoughts and wisdom highly influence my life (for the better). Would love to see more of you all!
Great discussion! I’m so happy Christine Caine and Peter Krueger addressed the busyness of life and how to find God in those moments.
So beautiful - a collective of brothers and a sister whom I appreciate, sitting and sharing together honesty and wisdom from the same Spirit - this one is a keeper. 🙂
Glad I bumped into this awesome God honoring discussion on prayer .. subscribing and planning to watch and listen to all tha is available
To me, Tim Mackie is so spiritual, he really understood unceasing prayer. Unceasing prayer is not a religiously designed plan of prayer, it is to be aware of the presence of God and his creative and merciful power for each of us his children at every moment! This is the paradise! It is now and here when we are in GOD'S presence
Agreed!
When I first became a Christian in 1972, I prayed in the spirit for an hour a day. God would meet me so incredibly. As my life progressed I no longer did or could do this. I really needed a new or deeper way to have this through my day. Thank you
I ended up here at 4 in the morning, when I should’ve/could’ve used this time in prayer, but I wanted the dopamine hit. I’m sure the Holy Spirit used this conversation to reveal and guide me into deeper intimacy. Looking forward to reading the book!
The church is in good hands when John Piper, Michael Youssef and other great God loving pastors and leaders are gone.. although they're never truly gone since I watch Charles Stanley every Sunday morning and he's always.. ALWAYS leading me towards a closer walk with God! But our next group of leaders are so led by the Spirit too! Thank you all for all you do ❤ (Just started fasting weekly because of your leading John Mark.. Lots to learn yet on that but it's definitely a work in progress that is bringing into a closer relationship with my Father!)
This is incredibly powerful insight. Prayer is paradise here, the garden now. Its our ability to connect to reality, to the intimate presence of God and surrender to Him to be at rest.
Favorite tips from this:
-Pray often, routinely, and earnestly
-Combat our 'facts' with the Truth (focus more on Word of God rather than world/circumstances)
-Find intentional quiet time to connect; especially first thing in the morning and last thing before bed (no Bible, no breakfast)
-Acknowledge and recognize the presence of God and remember/meditate on His insights/scripture often
-Be fully transparent and honest before God rather than polished/impersonal (He knows our heart and is eternally merciful)
-Pray the Scriptures (Psalm 5, Lord's Prayer) or pre-written prayers as guide
-Practice varied prayer methods
-Tune in to what the Lord is saying, pay attention to His revelations/reminders throughout the day
This is ,by far, the best video I have ever watched
Oh my gosh who are you amazing people? Your sharing is what I’ve been longing to hear. This information and model is so needed in the church today. I want to learn more.🙏🏻🇨🇦🙏🏻
Literally this has been my struggle since becoming a mom … quiet time with God … God Himself has led me to such an adventure in it rather than my own control and expectations. Thank you for sharing, it reaches me so deeply I could cry (and I don’t cry!) ❤
Thank you all for your honesty and openness. The whole conversation was really helpful, but especially the end as you shared what God is doing with you right now.
Pete Greig, THANK YOU! I almost started crying when you talked about movement in prayer. I so appreciate that.
YES! This reminded me about Revelation Fitness' mission. Have you heard of them? Physical Health/activity while in the Word etc. "revving the Word"
Thank you for sharing your thoughts and wisdom 🙏 ❤️
This reminds me that God views believers as his children and loves it when they speak to him. He enjoys the uniqueness of each of us.
I like observing how the conversation starts more self focused and as things progress we see more of The Spirit flowing through them, bringing to their minds more of Him, in contrast to being more about what they're ego's think. Great conversation!
I wish I could like this 10,000 times. Spirit put this in my life at the perfect time. He's just that good 🙌🏻🙌🏻🙌🏻
I love the honest humility regarding the state of their hearts towards the end.
The multi-faceted Body of Christ. Thank you for letting us in on this.
Unceasing prayer is something central in the lives of Eastern Orthodox Christians - not just monastics but laity as well. There's an ancient tradition there going back to the earliest days of the Church that is well worth digging into. "The Jesus Prayer" by Kallistos Ware would be a solid intro for anyone who's curious.
The Jesus prayer is vain repetition. It should be a last resort for someone under demonic attack. One is better off reading, memorizing, meditating on the psalter. Eastern Orthodoxy has a lot of useless tradition and bad habits from backsliding pagans. The early church "fathers" are worshiped and because they are "first" but being the first they are also coming from heavily pagan roots. This is obvious in how they cling to their idolatry and fake saints they worship. It is rebranded catholicism and the schism was fake.
@@br.m This feels like one of those “tell me you don’t understand Orthodoxy without telling me you don’t understand Orthodoxy” kind of moments.
@@feeble_stirrings Really? If I had more time I might help you understand Eastern Orthodoxy.
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I'd love to see how worship through song comes into play with intimacy. For me I find I transcend to a blissful paradise through sweet song to the lord in addition to prayer through song. I haven't heard it mentioned yet but I think that is one portal to paradise for those who have the gift!
Thank you for your honesty and humbleness. Really refreshing x
As a stay at home, dad, the wiping away of the wet it paralleling the cleansing of our sin got me 😭 🙌❤️🔥 to take it further, you can even relate that to the priestly sacrificial system. Jesus will be praise weather I am cleaning dishes, a diaper, or spilled milk.
I wish they would keep beginners in mind in all of these conversations. Because they use systems of prayers and other spiritual strategies with titles which many of us have never heard about and just keep getting lost in all of it. Nevertheless, overall it was a blessing to listen to this!
3796 souls helped and blessed by this panel, let’s share and bless others too!!
Its good to come together and talk about what we love the most, God!
Enriching discussion. Thank you for your vulnerability and insight. I agree…more of this group, please.
Thank you for this! The last question at the end was SO encouraging to me. Seeing these leaders I admire still growing, still struggling and wrestling with things… It fights the temptation to idolize them or diminish my own walk with God as less “impressive” or whatever. Thank you to each for the vulnerability of sharing a current growth area.
This is full of beautiful wisdom, thoroughly enjoyed it! The only thing I'd say is that I heard marriage mentioned a few times which is totally fine and makes complete sense in the context and nuances of the discussion but for those of us who are single, it can make us feel a little isolated as we can't relate to that. But overall, lovely conversation.
Its clear that so many people in my own church family feel like they dont "pray correctly" and feel so scared to pray audibly. Love the "resting" language. Thank god for you folks.
Finished Fear No Lies. Onto Praying like Monks Living Like Fools 2023!
I love the totally different perspectives. Not one is wrong - we all have a way to access God. He's right with us instantly. We are the temple of the Holy Spirit.
Thank you all so much for sharing your thoughts! I love the depth of sincerity! Really loved Pete Greig about the brain! Always praying for Jesus to move in different parts of my brain and ask Him a lot about how I can, "put on the mind" of Christ! Also, love Tim Mackie' s thoughts about subjectivity. Thank you so much! Christine Caine, love the honesty about on the move and prayers for others!
This is the body of Christ that I want to be built in with! Blessings!
Just listening to the first answer Tim made, makes me remember how much life I received listening to their deep revelations on bible project it felt like experiencing new rivers of fresh living water
I love the example the man gave of connecting with God while changing a diaper. The light bulb went off in my understanding by this, as someone who deals with ADHD. Thank you!
This has been so encouraging to me. God bless you all❤
Brutal Honesty:( not hiding behind any mask living real life in the reality of Christ in their life… Thank you
What a blessing! So encouraged in my prayer walk! Thank you, Tyler, John Mark, Tim, Christine, and Pete! Amazing!
Wow, when she said not wanting to because God with changer her heart.
I so feel that way about praying for my mother. Over and over she abandoned me. Now, I’m the one need to be there for her and I don’t want to.
Thank you all for your transparency and authenticity. I appreciate your sharing here .
Fabulous! Thank you for sharing your thoughts.❤
Love this, I often lose stuff that Pappa is saying because I leave it in my journal…..
As someone who works overnights 4-5 days a week for the last 5 years. I very much miss a morning routine to attempt this. My days and nights all blend together.
Caleb Pennock, I hear you! I work nights as well! But often when I get home I am too awake to go to sleep! So I make it a routine to worship the LORD and pray! It's so amazing how the LORD meets us as we set aside time for HIM! My prayer life has really been so sweet!
As a matter of fact, the LORD continues to minister to my heart through the night! He gives me scripture and worship songs! So often HE is the first thing I consider when I awaken!
So GOD bless you on your journey in prayer! 💞🙏💞
This is so insightful. Thank you for this.
This was beautiful. Thank you Tyler for bringing this group together. It is so valuable to have everyone involved speaking over us and telling us it’s ok to connect with Gd in a personal and unique way. And it’s even better to learn what that looks for yourself Gd, now and in future seasons.
Thank you, thank you, thank you. Sitting in Scotland being really blessed and encouraged with this stimulating conversation. Much appreciated.
Love love love this! Maybe my favorite part was toward the end… When Tim Mackie was talking about hearing from God. Yep, Tim. You’re way smarter than me, but this one I know … I call it being a “ first class noticer “… that’s no coincidence. When we become first class noticers , there’s no denying God’s handprint !
Woooooowwww! What a discussion! I think that most popular questions and misconceptions about prayer are given good initial solutions right here. Thank you!
Thank you, thank you, thank you!
This was so inspiring! Love all the different ways everyone brings. I hope you keep doing these. Loving the book!
When I forget to be thankful my prayer life grows cold. Thankfulness really is, from what I can see, the foundation of prayer. "Continue steadfastly in prayer, being watchful in it with thanksgiving". ~ Colossians 4:2
I think we often forget what happened in the temple when Christ died. That veil that separated us from God was torn and the Holy of Holies - was opened to us As such, there is nowhere we can be in this universe where God is not. Emmanuel, God is with us! Let us remember to take off our shoes, wherever we are, whatever we're doing, because we are on holy ground and our loving Father is with us in the eternal now. This is how we pray unceasingly and do everything in faith.
Beautiful and inspiring conversation. Thank you all.
Bingo!! Enter His Courts with thanks giving and praise 🥰
Wow, this is tremendous. Praise God and blessings to all of you for who you are in Christ Jesus.
This is such a gift, to witness this discussion from so many wise and humble individuals! Could you please invite Francis Chan to your next discussion?!?
This was so real and unreal. Thank you!
I have received so much from this lesson on prayer as my life atm is so busy this has been really helpful. Thank you all of you.
This was so beautiful and helpful. I sincerely appreciate the humility and honesty of this conversation. Thank you!
Thank you so much everyone. I just want to say how beautiful it is to see so many wonderful men leading this conversation and thank you Christine for brining your wealth of experience xx
You guys, so refreshing and so real on earth as is heaven we go.
Timelessness!
Sanctified entirely. Its like a transplant of everything i am to everything God dreams for me!
Dangerous to read the gospels according to Paul and his letters!
Ceaselessness!
Love it, relaxing into God and unclenching my nervous system, my reader of life in me! Blessings!
I absolutely love these guys.
So I thought I was pretty smart and spiritually mature until I watched these Christian intellectuals talk😂. I can appreciate the growth my mind had to take just to understand the vocabulary 😮. At the end I realized that we are all different, have different relationships with God and maturity levels. I love Christine and her transparency ❤. I can relate to her best, but hearing all these other men speak of their prayer journeys was motivating and humbling and reassuring as well. I love the diversity of the Body.😊
Love this conversation. From very early on, I've felt the presence of God by my side, almost like a whisper in my heart. These discussions remind me of an image that is impressed in my mind from C.S. Lewis' book, Out of the Silent Planet. The idea of "light being," (angels, God`s Spirit?), are constantly surrounding us, but we can't see them in our world because so many distractions blind us. I think of this as I make time to be still and approach the throne of God.