I don't think that there's a single film released in the 21st century that has been referred to as "overrated" more than The Dark Knight. Ask at literally any forum what people think of it and you're bound to find at LEAST one person that shared your sentiment.
Not every story needs characters to change or "move",... seven is a great film, and the thing that makes it really cool is that the characters are so persistent in their own ways
Joker is not a "carbon-copy" of Taxi Driver. It's a direct downgrade. Taxi Driver doesn't glorify Travis, makes the point it tries to get through very clear and it's not a huge "society bad" movie. The only redeeming quality of this movie (that makes it close to TD anyway) is the cinematography and Joaquin's acting but honestly he's never bad.
You're right in a certain sense. Joker 2 just came out and we see the consequences of making a character that is really sympathetic go through what realistically would happen if they murdered six people. Travis fits the profile of a mass murderer better than Arthur. Realistically Arthur would've offed himself on Murray's show. The irony of Taxi Driver is that he was a hero by accident. Joker is better for modern audiences in terms of pacing. The farther back we go the harder it is for modern audiences to watch films, like the 60s
I don't think that's *necessarily* a paradox. I think plenty of stuff can be sophisticated and visceral. I think the reason filmbros like it so much is it activates the same excitement as more approachable, thrilling pictures but in a way they can feel smart about.
NOOO!!!! Not Donnie Darko in actually bad 😭 That’s like the only placement I majorly disagree with though. I’m glad we can agree that The Usual Suspects sucks
Great video. Disagreed on a lot, but really liked your thoughts and commentary. Here's my list: Top 10 Material: Oldboy Masterpiece: The Social Network, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho, Uncut Gems, Apocalypse Now, 2001 Great: Nightcrawler, Se7en, The Shawshank Redemption, Prisoners, Wolf of Wall Street Good: Fight Club, Django Unchained, Eternal Sunshine, Whiplash, Scarface, The Dark Knight, La La Land, Joker (I completely understand why people don't like it, but I still enjoy it for what it is) Alright: Inception, Interstellar, American Beauty, Drive, The Prestige, Blade Runner 2049 Not a fan: The Usual Suspects
you're good at articulating and explaining your opinions, and you and i don't seem to have, like, a fundamental difference in what we want out of film as a medium. you don't seem like the type to dismiss a movie without reason, so i'd love to watch a video about why Donnie Darko doesn't work for you/why you think it doesn't work in general
Thank you! I would really love to do a retrospective on Donnie Darko, explaining why it doesn't work but I think it would just come across as hating for hating sake, which I don't love doing. But also it would mean sitting through Donnie Darko again and I reeeaaaallly don't want to do that lmao
Dude, love how people in the comments get triggered someone didn’t agree with the film bro critiques . Just cuz I don’t agree with u on some of these doesn’t mean ur arguments weren’t valid to some right
@@cademacleanYT Yeah, I've learned to let shit just go lol. The thing is, nobody is right and if I just said what everyone expects me to say, well then there'd be no point in me doing the video. But luckily, I'm an individual, so I have my own opinions, therefore I have something to say. I appreciate you watching again!
@@kritpickproductions I appreciate that man. I have some friends who literally have no hot takes whatsoever and it’s boring. No one can truly have the right opinion, what I think matters is that it is your own and you’ve thought about it.
Although I disagree with some placements, I appreciate how you justify them. Have you watched Sympathy for Mr Vengeance? It’s like Oldboy but more raw. It’s my personal favorite Chan Wook film.
@@snowset675 I have seen it! I do prefer it to Oldboy, I prefer a lot of Park Chan-wook movies to Oldboy like Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Handmaiden, I'm a Cyborg but That's Okay and Decision to Leave. I do still need to see more from him though
@@kritpickproductions Cool! I also want to check out more of Chan Wook’s filmography. I still need to see the Handmaiden and Decision to Leave, as I’ve only touched his Vengeance trilogy so far.
Batman Begins, Into the Spider-Verse, The Batman, The Incredibles, Thor Ragnarok, Infinity War, Spider-Man 2, Guardians of the Galaxy (any of them), X2, Unbreakable, Batman Returns, Darkman And then a few comic book movies, not necessarily "superhero" films: Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Hellboy, Blade, The Crow Off the top of my head, I would personally say those are better films with the rough genre. Of course a lot of that is subjective and some I'd argue way more than others but yeah, hope this helps.
That’s very fair the one thing I would say that I enjoy tdk for is it feels significantly more grounded than most marvel movies that’s not a hate towards marvel just the style of movie
@@owencampbell4876 I definitely understand that aspect of it, I am for sure a more stylized kind of person when it comes to comic book stuff. Appreciate you watching my man!
I think my least favourite part about filmbros is that they (for the most part) have good taste And I agree, Uncut Gems is a masterpiece that easily cracks my favourites oat
Watching this video, I went through the constant cycle of nodding in agreement and going “WHAT THE HELL MAN” 😂 My favourite on this list would easily be Whiplash, a top 3 movie for me, I adore it and as a creative, artsy person, I did genuinely find it inspiring. Also, Goodfellas and La La Land are movies I adore. I Really should check out some more of these films.
That's definitely where I operate best lol. It's not fun if you always agree haha. I'm glad you love those films though, they're very well made movies :)
You have some very crazy takes sir. But that’s what it’s all about more power to you. But godfather is a s tier movie I think you really need to revisit and reevaluate it from a film making perspective
I'm mostly just exaggerating. I don't hate it and I think it's a very well made movie, just not one for me. I'm not heavy into most mafia/mob movies, not entirely my genre, with a few exceptions. So whilst I can totally respect it, it's not something I enjoy too much. Thank you for watching and being respectful too, not overly common on this site 🙏
i agree with most of your tier, some movies maybe slightly higher or lower but nothing major except for some so here's my take on the major ones 1- django unchained - i don't think it's that good i think it's a decent time but for me i think it didn't live up to my expectations but maybe i need to revisit it 2- prisoners - for me is genuine cinema i think it was carried by the performance for me but i did feel the frustration of the character in every scene 3- la la land - was genuine cinema for me but i understand your reasoning behind your placement here 4 joker - is a decent time i think it's still good enjoyable movie but was ruined by the people over hyping it but maybe i am wrong i still liked it though 5- inception - i loved it the first time i saw it but the more i think about it i liked it less and less also didn't like the performances for the most part and i think it was not as visually pleasing for some reason "still think dunkirk is christopher nolan best movie" 6- space odyssey - i disagree with you i think it holds up very well 7 - seven - is actually bad for me the characters are so boring and i think the friendship was forced and rushed for me to care at the end still i would say that most of those movies are good even great, even if i think that some of them are better than the others i still understand why people would prefer one over the other english is not my first language so some of my points may not translate well
I can definitely see where you're coming from with all of those, it's all subjective at the end of the day. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a thought out and detailed comment!
idk your method in ranking these films but i find myself disagreeing with a lot of your points lol. These films are perfectly well-made films but filmbros tend to worship these films to the point that it's actually annoying. great vid btw
I'm really new to film (both US and foreign) so I've seen very few of these, but I got to say, I agree on most of what I have seen, the only real changes I'd make is swapping American Psycho and Drive, and making Joker "it's fine" even though young me (read: me 6 years ago) would've put it in the top tier ^^' I don't think Joker is a beat-for-beat copy of Taxi Driver, but I do agree it's not the most original, and it feels like it's actively trying to be a film bro movie, which is just... why? Phoenix is great though, and he saves it tbh.
Completely understandable. If you were to also ask me a few years ago, I would have also put Joker quite high. However, I'm glad you watched, I appreciate it!
I'm no one's film bro. I love all the stuff that they hate. But putting Blade Runner 2049 as "genuine cinema" and The Usual Suspects as "bad" is a God damn war crime. To say BR2049's pacing is glacial is being incredible kind.
I never said it didn't. I said they're both about the same subject matter and are both insanely popular in the western world, attempting to highlight how common that subject matter is in South Korean media. Bong Joon-ho himself having tackled the social divide multiple times himself before Parasite.
A nice list and entertaining video. My broness i disagree with Pulp Fiction. Literally 3 different stories happen in it, one of the main characters dies, etc. How can you say nothing happens? Also, like 75% of your "fine" movies are classics over 3 hrs long. Its an attention span issue😂
My argument with Pulp Fiction isn't so much there is no plot, it's that there's no story. And please don't reduce my critiques, or anybody's, of certain films to 'attention span issues' because it's dismissive and unhelpful in the larger conversation. Being a 'classic' movie, doesn't mean that a person should like it. Plus, many of my favourites are 4hrs+, it's a matter of taste and that's what makes art interesting.
@kritpickproductions @kritpickproductions you had me until the attention span comment. If someone told me that I'd say "hey, probably right, we do have shorter attention spans." Instead you go "boohoo please don't reduce blah blah blah" Don't need that whine in my life Unsubscribed
He rightfully called out your criticism for being simplistic and reductive and your response was to whine about how he didn’t just accept your perception of him. There’s literally two 3-hour films in ‘it’s fine’. There’s not really any notable gap in the length of films between tiers. Your claim does not even make sense within the context of the video.
The problem with this tier list is the name of the tiers. You make it a clear that the list is based strictly off of personal enjoyment. Which is fine. Decent time/it’s fine are valid. But you can’t be ranking things based solely on personal enjoyment and then label the top spot “Genuine Cinema”. You’re telling me The fucking Godfather isn’t “genuine cinema”? You can make an argument that of any film ever made, in any country, at at any time, no film better represents cinema than The Godfather. I also like the idea of kind of dunking on “Film Bros” and then rating SCARFACE over The Godfather. You couldn’t create a bigger “bro” opinion in a lab. And I can’t fucking stand the way people talk about The Dark Knight and say “aside from The Joker”. You mean the main god damn villain of the movie? The person the entire film is built around? Yeah, fuck it. Besides him. Is Django REALLY that good without Leo? I mean fuck, how long is JK Simmons in Whiplash? How good is the movie without him? The idea of a movie having legitimately one of the greatest performances and characters in the history of cinema and then saying “well take him out of it.” is fucking insane. we agree and and disagree on a lot, the prestige is also my favorite Nolan. I also don’t really like The Usual Suspects all that much. All the movies in the top 2 tiers are great movies (even though most of these are great movies). I also disagree with a lot. None of these movies are actually bad. You know this. You know what a bad film looks and feels like, and very, very rarely do actually bad movies become “classics” in any manner. The Joker is a rip off and I find it highly overrated but is it actually “bad”? Come on, now. BUT, I understand for the sake of a tier list, some movies have to bite the bullet. But The Godfather being in “it’s fine” is downvote worthy. You know that’s a batshit opinion.
@@Kopers30 This is just overall silly, if you can understand from the context of some tiers that this is all opinion based, which is what all film discussion is btw, then of course the Genuine Cinema tier is also included in that line of thinking. What would be the point of the video if I just put every film where you expect me to? You might as well just read the IMDb top 250 if you're looking for that kind of validation. Also, this isn't necessarily a dunk on film bros, I've said a million times that the films often associated with that kind of film fan are very great movies, so what's your point? If this were an attempt to dunk on their taste, I'd put it all in the bottom tier. Also, the villain in a movie isn't all the film is so yes, you have to look at everything else too. I think when analyzing that movie, not much else is "greatest of all time" status aside from Ledger's performance. If one performance made a movie perfect, a lot more movies would be regarded just as good. It's okay to disagree with my opinions and placements, I'm sure you dislike movies I love or at least like less, but that doesn't really affect my enjoyment and I for sure would not be this obviously upset lol. Relax man, I'm a silly 23 year old on TH-cam who knows nothing, it's not that deep
Imagine running a TH-cam channel about movies and still having opinions this bad. Have you accepted that movies aren’t for you yet or are you still living in denial?
Whiplash, Blade Runner, and Uncut Gems are supposed to be better than Taxi Driver, Godfather, Shawshank, and Goodfellas? Nah, man. I agree w the Joker though, that was bad.
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I finally found a well adjusted person who shares my exact thoughts on The Dark Knight being just OK.
We must stick together!
have fun being wrong
I don't think that there's a single film released in the 21st century that has been referred to as "overrated" more than The Dark Knight. Ask at literally any forum what people think of it and you're bound to find at LEAST one person that shared your sentiment.
Not every story needs characters to change or "move",... seven is a great film, and the thing that makes it really cool is that the characters are so persistent in their own ways
Joker is not a "carbon-copy" of Taxi Driver. It's a direct downgrade. Taxi Driver doesn't glorify Travis, makes the point it tries to get through very clear and it's not a huge "society bad" movie. The only redeeming quality of this movie (that makes it close to TD anyway) is the cinematography and Joaquin's acting but honestly he's never bad.
Nah Joker is easily the better Version.
You're right in a certain sense. Joker 2 just came out and we see the consequences of making a character that is really sympathetic go through what realistically would happen if they murdered six people. Travis fits the profile of a mass murderer better than Arthur. Realistically Arthur would've offed himself on Murray's show. The irony of Taxi Driver is that he was a hero by accident. Joker is better for modern audiences in terms of pacing. The farther back we go the harder it is for modern audiences to watch films, like the 60s
@@Oiantakuyou are a joke if you think joker is better than taxi driver
How the hell anyone wouldn't like Goodfellas??? This is just insane.
I like it, I just don't... love it...
The central paradox of filmbro cinema is that they are sophisticatedly visceral movies.
I don't think that's *necessarily* a paradox. I think plenty of stuff can be sophisticated and visceral. I think the reason filmbros like it so much is it activates the same excitement as more approachable, thrilling pictures but in a way they can feel smart about.
@@nancyboucher4014 well I dont believe in these movies and thats enough for me
Gonna go ahead and put myself in the "what are we even doing here, seriously?" category
NOOO!!!! Not Donnie Darko in actually bad 😭
That’s like the only placement I majorly disagree with though. I’m glad we can agree that The Usual Suspects sucks
I'm being a lil hyperbolic ofc but yeah I do not vibe with it at all lmao
Great video. Disagreed on a lot, but really liked your thoughts and commentary. Here's my list:
Top 10 Material: Oldboy
Masterpiece: The Social Network, The Godfather, Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Pulp Fiction, American Psycho, Uncut Gems, Apocalypse Now, 2001
Great: Nightcrawler, Se7en, The Shawshank Redemption, Prisoners, Wolf of Wall Street
Good: Fight Club, Django Unchained, Eternal Sunshine, Whiplash, Scarface, The Dark Knight, La La Land, Joker (I completely understand why people don't like it, but I still enjoy it for what it is)
Alright: Inception, Interstellar, American Beauty, Drive, The Prestige, Blade Runner 2049
Not a fan: The Usual Suspects
Completely understand that, thank you for watching man! Very solid tier list
Tier List: tiermaker.com/create/film-bro-movies-15880144
(Forgive my editing mistake on the Whiplash segment)
I have a feeling Dune + Dune 2 will make it on the Film Bro list.
I can see that but if they were both would be in Genuine Cinema with Dune 2 just slightly behind
@@kritpickproductions nah they're both just ok, and dune 2 is better than part 1
@@cicolas_nageNah they’re both peak
Good video, man. What you said about American beauty was hilarious.
I’m not a film bro but I do love a majority of these movies anyway.
@@JRBeast-nw3xg they're good movies, mostly
Where was the crow? 😔
People have different opinions that’s what makes film magical ngl
@@strangertony1108 agreed
Prestige is I agree his most underrated movie, and one of the greatest films of all time!!
you're good at articulating and explaining your opinions, and you and i don't seem to have, like, a fundamental difference in what we want out of film as a medium. you don't seem like the type to dismiss a movie without reason, so i'd love to watch a video about why Donnie Darko doesn't work for you/why you think it doesn't work in general
Thank you! I would really love to do a retrospective on Donnie Darko, explaining why it doesn't work but I think it would just come across as hating for hating sake, which I don't love doing. But also it would mean sitting through Donnie Darko again and I reeeaaaallly don't want to do that lmao
Dude, love how people in the comments get triggered someone didn’t agree with the film bro critiques . Just cuz I don’t agree with u on some of these doesn’t mean ur arguments weren’t valid to some right
@@cademacleanYT Yeah, I've learned to let shit just go lol. The thing is, nobody is right and if I just said what everyone expects me to say, well then there'd be no point in me doing the video. But luckily, I'm an individual, so I have my own opinions, therefore I have something to say. I appreciate you watching again!
@@kritpickproductions I appreciate that man. I have some friends who literally have no hot takes whatsoever and it’s boring. No one can truly have the right opinion, what I think matters is that it is your own and you’ve thought about it.
Your pulp fiction take is exactly how I feel I do believe it to be overrated
Although I disagree with some placements, I appreciate how you justify them.
Have you watched Sympathy for Mr Vengeance? It’s like Oldboy but more raw. It’s my personal favorite Chan Wook film.
@@snowset675 I have seen it! I do prefer it to Oldboy, I prefer a lot of Park Chan-wook movies to Oldboy like Sympathy for Mr. Vengeance, Handmaiden, I'm a Cyborg but That's Okay and Decision to Leave. I do still need to see more from him though
@@kritpickproductions Cool! I also want to check out more of Chan Wook’s filmography. I still need to see the Handmaiden and Decision to Leave, as I’ve only touched his Vengeance trilogy so far.
@snowset675 Handmaiden is fantastic but Decision to Leave is one of my favourite movies, it's an essential of the decade imo
@@kritpickproductions I think Decision to Leave will be the next one I watch. Handmaiden is up there though
Actually, Le Samouraï is the first “literally me” film.
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Just outta curiosity what superheroe films would have on the same tier or above tdk?
Batman Begins, Into the Spider-Verse, The Batman, The Incredibles, Thor Ragnarok, Infinity War, Spider-Man 2, Guardians of the Galaxy (any of them), X2, Unbreakable, Batman Returns, Darkman
And then a few comic book movies, not necessarily "superhero" films: Scott Pilgrim vs. the World, Hellboy, Blade, The Crow
Off the top of my head, I would personally say those are better films with the rough genre. Of course a lot of that is subjective and some I'd argue way more than others but yeah, hope this helps.
That’s very fair the one thing I would say that I enjoy tdk for is it feels significantly more grounded than most marvel movies that’s not a hate towards marvel just the style of movie
@@owencampbell4876 I definitely understand that aspect of it, I am for sure a more stylized kind of person when it comes to comic book stuff. Appreciate you watching my man!
@@kritpickproductions absolutely man love to see small channels that are passionate about thing’s definitely gonna watch your stuff when I see it
not putting 2001 in genuine cinema is an actual crime
@@bassterix7151 it was me officer! And I'll do it again!
I think my least favourite part about filmbros is that they (for the most part) have good taste
And I agree, Uncut Gems is a masterpiece that easily cracks my favourites oat
I agree, yeah. The main problem isn't their selection, it's their attitude towards that selection
I actually agree with you on practically every movie
Sorry to hear that man
all of these movies should be in actually good except maybe a few
Watching this video, I went through the constant cycle of nodding in agreement and going “WHAT THE HELL MAN” 😂
My favourite on this list would easily be Whiplash, a top 3 movie for me, I adore it and as a creative, artsy person, I did genuinely find it inspiring. Also, Goodfellas and La La Land are movies I adore. I Really should check out some more of these films.
That's definitely where I operate best lol. It's not fun if you always agree haha.
I'm glad you love those films though, they're very well made movies :)
@@kritpickproductions oh yeah I agree, I love seeing disagreements and different opinions (ironic I know XD)
You have some very crazy takes sir. But that’s what it’s all about more power to you. But godfather is a s tier movie I think you really need to revisit and reevaluate it from a film making perspective
I'm mostly just exaggerating. I don't hate it and I think it's a very well made movie, just not one for me. I'm not heavy into most mafia/mob movies, not entirely my genre, with a few exceptions. So whilst I can totally respect it, it's not something I enjoy too much. Thank you for watching and being respectful too, not overly common on this site 🙏
i agree with most of your tier, some movies maybe slightly higher or lower but nothing major except for some so here's my take on the major ones
1- django unchained - i don't think it's that good i think it's a decent time but for me i think it didn't live up to my expectations but maybe i need to revisit it
2- prisoners - for me is genuine cinema i think it was carried by the performance for me but i did feel the frustration of the character in every scene
3- la la land - was genuine cinema for me but i understand your reasoning behind your placement here
4 joker - is a decent time i think it's still good enjoyable movie but was ruined by the people over hyping it but maybe i am wrong i still liked it though
5- inception - i loved it the first time i saw it but the more i think about it i liked it less and less also didn't like the performances for the most part and i think it was not as visually pleasing for some reason "still think dunkirk is christopher nolan best movie"
6- space odyssey - i disagree with you i think it holds up very well
7 - seven - is actually bad for me the characters are so boring and i think the friendship was forced and rushed for me to care at the end
still i would say that most of those movies are good even great, even if i think that some of them are better than the others i still understand why people would prefer one over the other
english is not my first language so some of my points may not translate well
I can definitely see where you're coming from with all of those, it's all subjective at the end of the day. I appreciate you watching and taking the time to leave a thought out and detailed comment!
I agree with a lot of points on the dark knight
idk your method in ranking these films but i find myself disagreeing with a lot of your points lol. These films are perfectly well-made films but filmbros tend to worship these films to the point that it's actually annoying. great vid btw
Finally someone whose Not saying godfather is the Best movie of all time
I'm really new to film (both US and foreign) so I've seen very few of these, but I got to say, I agree on most of what I have seen, the only real changes I'd make is swapping American Psycho and Drive, and making Joker "it's fine" even though young me (read: me 6 years ago) would've put it in the top tier ^^'
I don't think Joker is a beat-for-beat copy of Taxi Driver, but I do agree it's not the most original, and it feels like it's actively trying to be a film bro movie, which is just... why? Phoenix is great though, and he saves it tbh.
Completely understandable. If you were to also ask me a few years ago, I would have also put Joker quite high.
However, I'm glad you watched, I appreciate it!
I'm no one's film bro. I love all the stuff that they hate. But putting Blade Runner 2049 as "genuine cinema" and The Usual Suspects as "bad" is a God damn war crime.
To say BR2049's pacing is glacial is being incredible kind.
The disrespect for Interstellar, bruhhhh
goodfellas is too high fuck joe pesci lmao
Fight club is the best change my mind
taxi driver is incredibly boring.
Made a video of how he thinks damsel is better than we think😑 now I know why this list is for the most part ass.
Being a Man United fan I guess you would be the expert on ass, I suppose
Zodiac is a slog and has no conclusion, which makes it doubly offensive. Se7en is far more impactful.
Parasite came out before squid game...
I never said it didn't. I said they're both about the same subject matter and are both insanely popular in the western world, attempting to highlight how common that subject matter is in South Korean media. Bong Joon-ho himself having tackled the social divide multiple times himself before Parasite.
Drive above Goodfellas? Like c’mon this is purely just what you enjoy more, that is not better cinema
Since there is no objectivity in art, it is all subjective, my friend. This isn't what I think is the objective truth, this is what I think
Hi, I'm sorry to be a jerk! It's "Denis" Villenueve, not Dennis, and it's pronounced "den" + "ee".
French names aren't real dw
So many movies here are ranked the opposite I would rank them.
No interest in your future content.
A nice list and entertaining video.
My broness i disagree with Pulp Fiction. Literally 3 different stories happen in it, one of the main characters dies, etc. How can you say nothing happens?
Also, like 75% of your "fine" movies are classics over 3 hrs long. Its an attention span issue😂
My argument with Pulp Fiction isn't so much there is no plot, it's that there's no story. And please don't reduce my critiques, or anybody's, of certain films to 'attention span issues' because it's dismissive and unhelpful in the larger conversation. Being a 'classic' movie, doesn't mean that a person should like it. Plus, many of my favourites are 4hrs+, it's a matter of taste and that's what makes art interesting.
@kritpickproductions @kritpickproductions you had me until the attention span comment. If someone told me that I'd say "hey, probably right, we do have shorter attention spans." Instead you go "boohoo please don't reduce blah blah blah"
Don't need that whine in my life
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@@KasumovMedia lol okay
@@KasumovMedia There’s plenty of story in pulp fiction
He rightfully called out your criticism for being simplistic and reductive and your response was to whine about how he didn’t just accept your perception of him. There’s literally two 3-hour films in ‘it’s fine’. There’s not really any notable gap in the length of films between tiers. Your claim does not even make sense within the context of the video.
The worst tier list I've ever seen
@@holtsinger6065 makes sense coming from the Patrick Bateman pfp
The problem with this tier list is the name of the tiers. You make it a clear that the list is based strictly off of personal enjoyment. Which is fine. Decent time/it’s fine are valid. But you can’t be ranking things based solely on personal enjoyment and then label the top spot “Genuine Cinema”.
You’re telling me The fucking Godfather isn’t “genuine cinema”? You can make an argument that of any film ever made, in any country, at at any time, no film better represents cinema than The Godfather. I also like the idea of kind of dunking on “Film Bros” and then rating SCARFACE over The Godfather. You couldn’t create a bigger “bro” opinion in a lab.
And I can’t fucking stand the way people talk about The Dark Knight and say “aside from The Joker”. You mean the main god damn villain of the movie? The person the entire film is built around? Yeah, fuck it. Besides him. Is Django REALLY that good without Leo? I mean fuck, how long is JK Simmons in Whiplash? How good is the movie without him? The idea of a movie having legitimately one of the greatest performances and characters in the history of cinema and then saying “well take him out of it.” is fucking insane.
we agree and and disagree on a lot, the prestige is also my favorite Nolan. I also don’t really like The Usual Suspects all that much. All the movies in the top 2 tiers are great movies (even though most of these are great movies). I also disagree with a lot. None of these movies are actually bad. You know this. You know what a bad film looks and feels like, and very, very rarely do actually bad movies become “classics” in any manner. The Joker is a rip off and I find it highly overrated but is it actually “bad”? Come on, now. BUT, I understand for the sake of a tier list, some movies have to bite the bullet.
But The Godfather being in “it’s fine” is downvote worthy. You know that’s a batshit opinion.
@@Kopers30 This is just overall silly, if you can understand from the context of some tiers that this is all opinion based, which is what all film discussion is btw, then of course the Genuine Cinema tier is also included in that line of thinking. What would be the point of the video if I just put every film where you expect me to? You might as well just read the IMDb top 250 if you're looking for that kind of validation.
Also, this isn't necessarily a dunk on film bros, I've said a million times that the films often associated with that kind of film fan are very great movies, so what's your point? If this were an attempt to dunk on their taste, I'd put it all in the bottom tier.
Also, the villain in a movie isn't all the film is so yes, you have to look at everything else too. I think when analyzing that movie, not much else is "greatest of all time" status aside from Ledger's performance. If one performance made a movie perfect, a lot more movies would be regarded just as good.
It's okay to disagree with my opinions and placements, I'm sure you dislike movies I love or at least like less, but that doesn't really affect my enjoyment and I for sure would not be this obviously upset lol. Relax man, I'm a silly 23 year old on TH-cam who knows nothing, it's not that deep
Imagine running a TH-cam channel about movies and still having opinions this bad. Have you accepted that movies aren’t for you yet or are you still living in denial?
interstellar should be cinema, you have the worst taste in movies
Whiplash, Blade Runner, and Uncut Gems are supposed to be better than Taxi Driver, Godfather, Shawshank, and Goodfellas?
Nah, man.
I agree w the Joker though, that was bad.