First of all, there was an Bering strait crossing. That is how some large animals crossed into America long before humans did. Humans came millions of years later across this same area discovering a new area. Just like the Spaniards, other European explorers were disrespectful of the native peoples they've encountered. They disrespected the plants, animals, waters, land resources, the climate, and then the peoples. Native people of Australia, Africa, Asia, and South America are also included.
@lucy9359 .........please tell me where you read or heard that all white men descended from the Vikings. And how did you determine that they were the most ruthless of all? I think that some Mongols, Assyrians or Romans might disagree with you.
@arafel1964 lol there are people of many races in Mexico. It's a nation of immigrants; yes people of indigenous and mixed blood make up a very large segment of the population, but there are plenty of Asian-Mexicans, African-Mexicans, Irish-Mexicans, etc. It's just like every other country in the Americas.
@lucy9359 Not when the the game has been fixed for five hundred years. this is the Constitution-This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.- why are the treaties ignored?
If there are any questions to the authenticity of native Americans being tribes Israel because of the DNA issue, then read Revelation 1:4 "John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:.." Does not say to the 7 churches in Europe or even Africa, but Asia. The Roman empire considered Israel as being in Asia Minor. And today it is called the Middle East(Middle Asia.)
In the book of Daniel the bible speaks of "knowledge shall be increased." Science technology and archeology? Through archeological findings and research they have found that certain native tribes in the Americas had a written language of Paleo Hebrew and spoke Paleo Hebrew. But destroyed by Europeans.
@davegadge1 Sorry I don't understand this part of your comment ".. some same negro/ chinese produced the Native americans". What do you mean? English is not my tongue.
@TheMoonandSea as if the recounts for anything ,look at the complete history 90 million dead Natives and i guess thats not enough.ooooogood history lesson
@nashkita77 ..hahah, no tortillas in those times. Probably only mammoth..And Vickings and Chinese didn't exist yet. Only some groups of Homo Sapiens hunting all around the world Who became the former inhabitants of the Americas about 60.000 years ago. America was never "discovered" because all the ancient cultures traded with its (often even more ancient) cultures.And Columbus knew that..^_^ .But, obviously to justify the European colonization, they had all the interest to hide that..
@davegadge1 Of course since then there have been cultural and DNA exchanges, probably with the Sumerian and the Egyptian. Because they both were used to trade with South America. And maybe some other lost civilisation before. But not before 10.000 years ago. So their roots are Original First American. 30.000 ago they started to cross the Bering Straits. FROM America to Asia..Maybe the Chinese were Native Americans..Just joking, sorry Dave..^_^
@RichardOhKaNoi ...........I can imagine. Would be nice to know what was discovered and how it was analyzed or, even if it has any scientific or historical worth. Or is this something like the Bermuda Triangle or spacecraft over New Mexico?
if i remember correctly they were doing some kind of construction work there when they discovered the bones, they then called in the police thinking it was a crime scene but they then called in the scientist and they have been after it ever sense
i know about the bog where they found the bones it actually is on cape canavral and is not accessable to the public. i am lucky to be retired militairy and have access to the site. a great find and a valuble asset to the world.
I don't know why people think the native people of America were peace pipe smoking, and holding hands with one another, tribes/alliances/civilizations fought one another all the time. Every peoples/civilization in history has been conquered and reconquered no matter what race/religion and by every means necessary. Ever hear of history repeating itself?
@davegadge1 They came across the land bridge before the last ice age around 13,000 to 14,000 years ago. Coming from what we now call Russia. The relatives they left behind were Chinese.
all peoples who own or have power eventually have leaders and peoples and rulers afraid of losing power, and that makes them violent...and sometimes deadly things happen to humans and their cultures...and they behave as frightened beings would, not knowing what is happening, or what will...
@arafel1964 If i were to buy your house, it does not give your grand children the right to come in and jump on my furniture because you used to live there in the past.
@NopeJPeg So you're referring to the Africans that made their way out of Africa to arrive in the Americas 14,000 -15,000 years ago who's relatives came to visit them somewhere about 1492 AD?
@arafel1964 Borders are established sometimes through the blood of people. Many fought and died for those borders, so they have been paid for in blood.
The land bridge crossing would have been far shorter, would have needed less technology, and would have been on the fringes of the ice cap. Crossing from Europe would have entailed full on Ice Age conditions. Ocean crossing would have entailed thousands of miles in primative, ocean worthy boats, if they existed at all.
@fortyaider Taking land by force was the norm. If you came into my house and i was unable to defend it, then it is yours. But if my defenses are strong enough, you will die trying. He who has the power, rules the world.
during recent micondral DNA test proved that almost all native american came from asia with one exception and that is the objibwa or objibway have a lot of european DNA and it is a very ancihent DNA possibally passed on by the soultreans who may have been the first to cross the alantic ocean the DNA and the type of tools made by them are the same. also a lot of the stone tools made by the objibwa are much like the soultreans even up to the mid 1800's it may be that the objibwa were the first
@davegadge1 Thank you, I will check. Our History is much more older than the official one. The map of Piri Reis was a copy of another one that survived to the fire of Alexandria (Egypt) Library and that was even more ancient than the Egyptian. The original was designed with instruments ignored by the Egyptians.With latitude and longitude. Yes, about 10.000 years ago. Impossible, isn't it? Of course it reminds of Atlantis..^_^
well mine happened to be first handed, i had access to the cape Canaveral AFB because of my job. and i visited the bog. it is larger than what i thought it would b e but it is smaller than a lot of bogs. only danger were spiders, snakes and gators. but security there is good. no access unless you have business on the base. sorry not open to the public.
@lekkerfiss3 not that i know of. only you tube has a video of it. a lot of people even on the base have never heard of it so dont feel alone but you must have a valid reason just for being on the base and then permission to visit the bog.. not op-0en to the public at all.
@davegadge1 Lol..^_^. What these imaginative anthropologists should know is that 50.000/60.000 years ago( the time of the first immigration from Australia and Africa in South America) black people, as we know now, and chinese and whites didn't exist yet . They were ALL Sapiens! Native American languages still keep the roots of their original antidiluvian language, the Nostratico. So they are right: they lived in America since always!
@davegadge1 I agree. Columbus didn't discover anything. He knew what was looking for..^_^ And neither did the Chinese or Vikings or everybody else. In the Ancient Times it was quite common, even if obviously took years of journey, to trade with South America. I am talking about Sumerian and Egyptians. And after, stealing their maps, the Greeks and the Romans. And then the Europeans..Columbus was given one of those ancient maps, 4.000 years old. They lied to us, my friend, as usual
Thanks to modern science I've being able to workout exactly where my ancestors came from :) its so simple I suggest you all try it, just a bit of research and you can workout a map of migrations to how you got where u are
@ProTuner06 hahahaha ethnocultural prejudice is showing. Your attidue and prejudices are elevated from the level of personal beliefs and preferences to public issues and questions of public policy. You are trying to legitimize religious, ethnocultural and racial prejudices as nationalism. You only know what you were taught, hate your parents and the education system for that. Nahaa.
@thebearjewkiller1976 please reasd my comment again. I was trying to tell arafel1964 that his ethnoicentric attitude, (colonial attitude) is wrong. First Nations people gave up land and life so that future generations will have a better life, so everthing is paid for in advance. What kind of name is bear jew killer for a 34 year old aboriginal man.
@NopeJPeg We all come from the same MOMMA regardless. AND Why do you assume i am not Native American in the definition you described? You know nothing about me.
First of all, there was an Bering strait crossing. That is how some large animals crossed into America long before humans did. Humans came millions of years later across this same area discovering a new area. Just like the Spaniards, other European explorers were disrespectful of the native peoples they've encountered. They disrespected the plants, animals, waters, land resources, the climate, and then the peoples. Native people of Australia, Africa, Asia, and South America are also included.
You don't have to be ashamed that you come from black people.Just be happy that you come from somewhere.
@lucy9359 .........please tell me where you read or heard that all white men descended from the Vikings. And how did you determine that they were the most ruthless of all? I think that some Mongols, Assyrians or Romans might disagree with you.
@arafel1964 lol there are people of many races in Mexico. It's a nation of immigrants; yes people of indigenous and mixed blood make up a very large segment of the population, but there are plenty of Asian-Mexicans, African-Mexicans, Irish-Mexicans, etc. It's just like every other country in the Americas.
@lucy9359 Not when the the game has been fixed for five hundred years. this is the Constitution-This Constitution, and the Laws of the United States which shall be made in Pursuance thereof; and all Treaties made, or which shall be made, under the Authority of the United States, shall be the supreme Law of the Land; and the Judges in every State shall be bound thereby, any Thing in the Constitution or Laws of any State to the Contrary notwithstanding.- why are the treaties ignored?
If there are any questions to the authenticity of native Americans being tribes Israel because of the DNA issue, then read Revelation 1:4 "John, to the seven churches which are in Asia:.." Does not say to the 7 churches in Europe or even Africa, but Asia. The Roman empire considered Israel as being in Asia Minor. And today it is called the Middle East(Middle Asia.)
In the book of Daniel the bible speaks of "knowledge shall be increased." Science technology and archeology? Through archeological findings and research they have found that certain native tribes in the Americas had a written language of Paleo Hebrew and spoke Paleo Hebrew. But destroyed by Europeans.
@davegadge1 Sorry I don't understand this part of your comment ".. some same negro/ chinese produced the Native americans". What do you mean? English is not my tongue.
Nice but can't hear it...
I can also see similarities among whites and blacks.
@TheMoonandSea as if the recounts for anything ,look at the complete history 90 million dead Natives and i guess thats not enough.ooooogood history lesson
The Chukchi People from Northern Siberia were here first.
@nashkita77 ..hahah, no tortillas in those times. Probably only mammoth..And Vickings and Chinese didn't exist yet. Only some groups of Homo Sapiens hunting all around the world Who became the former inhabitants of the Americas about 60.000 years ago. America was never "discovered" because all the ancient cultures traded with its (often even more ancient) cultures.And Columbus knew that..^_^ .But, obviously to justify the European colonization, they had all the interest to hide that..
@davegadge1 Of course since then there have been cultural and DNA exchanges, probably with the Sumerian and the Egyptian. Because they both were used to trade with South America. And maybe some other lost civilisation before. But not before 10.000 years ago. So their roots are Original First American. 30.000 ago they started to cross the Bering Straits. FROM America to Asia..Maybe the Chinese were Native Americans..Just joking, sorry Dave..^_^
@arafel1964 I am also Native American. Born in Philipsburg PA 1962. SFW. Native means living in the area where one was born.
@RichardOhKaNoi ...........I can imagine. Would be nice to know what was discovered and how it was analyzed or, even if it has any scientific or historical worth. Or is this something like the Bermuda Triangle or spacecraft over New Mexico?
if i remember correctly they were doing some kind of construction work there when they discovered the bones, they then called in the police thinking it was a crime scene but they then called in the scientist and they have been after it ever sense
@arafel1964 Yes absolutely. But my point is that a very large percentage of Mexico's population has no Amerindian heritage whatsoever.
@davegadge1 Chinese did not discover anything...They were following some reindeer,then elk, then bear, then buffalo.
i know about the bog where they found the bones it actually is on cape canavral and is not accessable to the public. i am lucky to be retired militairy and have access to the site. a great find and a valuble asset to the world.
although no one may noytice what im talkin about.... DAM YOU HELEN
@wisdomoftheancient chinese and vikings didn't want to come to the Americas. neither liked tortillas.
life needs creatures to compete, and sometimes moving far west, or far south, is needed for survival, or to keep adaptibility strong.
I don't know why people think the native people of America were peace pipe smoking, and holding hands with one another, tribes/alliances/civilizations fought one another all the time. Every peoples/civilization in history has been conquered and reconquered no matter what race/religion and by every means necessary. Ever hear of history repeating itself?
@davegadge1 They came across the land bridge before the last ice age around 13,000 to 14,000 years ago. Coming from what we now call Russia. The relatives they left behind were Chinese.
all peoples who own or have power eventually have leaders and peoples and rulers afraid of losing power, and that makes them violent...and sometimes deadly things happen to humans and their cultures...and they behave as frightened beings would, not knowing what is happening, or what will...
@letkiewiczj
Research THE TWO CONSTITUTIONS. I can't think of anything that so seriously matters more today than it did yesterday.
@arafel1964 If i were to buy your house, it does not give your grand children the right to come in and jump on my furniture because you used to live there in the past.
Excellent-very informative. thanks for posting
@NopeJPeg So you're referring to the Africans that made their way out of Africa to arrive in the Americas 14,000 -15,000 years ago who's relatives came to visit them somewhere about 1492 AD?
@arafel1964 Borders are established sometimes through the blood of people. Many fought and died for those borders, so they have been paid for in blood.
I love the explanation of what 10,000 years means. Most patronising thing Ive ever heard.
@RichardOhKaNoi ......I've never heard about the bog you mentioned-is there a web site about that place?
back when humans of any race, was a minority, and big cats and the enviroments were major threats to us...
The land bridge crossing would have been far shorter, would have needed less technology, and would have been on the fringes of the ice cap.
Crossing from Europe would have entailed full on Ice Age conditions.
Ocean crossing would have entailed thousands of miles in primative, ocean worthy boats, if they existed at all.
people conquer land, it was always that way in the early days , now they purchase, rent, lease,
we have always been here i have walk in my familys foot prints in stone ( the mud tured to stone )
@fortyaider Taking land by force was the norm. If you came into my house and i was unable to defend it, then it is yours. But if my defenses are strong enough, you will die trying. He who has the power, rules the world.
these is what i want it to see ...now it makes more sence were we come from ..
History says it all, cold blooded killers.for power, money, fortune, position.
during recent micondral DNA test proved that almost all native american came from asia with one exception and that is the objibwa or objibway have a lot of european DNA and it is a very ancihent DNA possibally passed on by the soultreans who may have been the first to cross the alantic ocean the DNA and the type of tools made by them are the same. also a lot of the stone tools made by the objibwa are much like the soultreans even up to the mid 1800's it may be that the objibwa were the first
@davegadge1 Thank you, I will check. Our History is much more older than the official one. The map of Piri Reis was a copy of another one that survived to the fire of Alexandria (Egypt) Library and that was even more ancient than the Egyptian. The original was designed with instruments ignored by the Egyptians.With latitude and longitude. Yes, about 10.000 years ago. Impossible, isn't it? Of course it reminds of Atlantis..^_^
well mine happened to be first handed, i had access to the cape Canaveral AFB because of my job. and i visited the bog. it is larger than what i thought it would b e but it is smaller than a lot of bogs. only danger were spiders, snakes and gators. but security there is good. no access unless you have business on the base. sorry not open to the public.
Success is more likely with short odds. Australians reached AU via the souther Asian land mass.
@arafel1964 HE WHO has the power RULES!
@lekkerfiss3 not that i know of. only you tube has a video of it. a lot of people even on the base have never heard of it so dont feel alone but you must have a valid reason just for being on the base and then permission to visit the bog.. not op-0en to the public at all.
@wisdomoftheancient PLEASE GOOGLE Klerksdorp sphere
@davegadge1 Lol..^_^. What these imaginative anthropologists should know is that 50.000/60.000 years ago( the time of the first immigration from Australia and Africa in South America) black people, as we know now, and chinese and whites didn't exist yet . They were ALL Sapiens! Native American languages still keep the roots of their original antidiluvian language, the Nostratico. So they are right: they lived in America since always!
@davegadge1 I agree. Columbus didn't discover anything. He knew what was looking for..^_^ And neither did the Chinese or Vikings or everybody else. In the Ancient Times it was quite common, even if obviously took years of journey, to trade with South America. I am talking about Sumerian and Egyptians. And after, stealing their maps, the Greeks and the Romans. And then the Europeans..Columbus was given one of those ancient maps, 4.000 years old. They lied to us, my friend, as usual
Thanks to modern science I've being able to workout exactly where my ancestors came from :) its so simple I suggest you all try it, just a bit of research and you can workout a map of migrations to how you got where u are
I'm native American, :D I just recently got registered with the Tribe.
@DollaBiIIz ah ah ah,your so funny
@2canoe i am from European descent and i feel ashamed that people can act in this manner
@ProTuner06 hahahaha ethnocultural prejudice is showing. Your attidue and prejudices are elevated from the level of personal beliefs and preferences to public issues and questions of public policy. You are trying to legitimize religious, ethnocultural and racial prejudices as nationalism. You only know what you were taught, hate your parents and the education system for that. Nahaa.
@thebearjewkiller1976 please reasd my comment again. I was trying to tell arafel1964 that his ethnoicentric attitude, (colonial attitude) is wrong. First Nations people gave up land and life so that future generations will have a better life, so everthing is paid for in advance.
What kind of name is bear jew killer for a 34 year old aboriginal man.
they come from blacks and chinese
never understood why indians where called native americans... why arent they just "Americans"?
@NopeJPeg We all come from the same MOMMA regardless. AND Why do you assume i am not Native American in the definition you described? You know nothing about me.
I was already here before the first person..
this is complete bs.
@Pilgrim1411 ha ha ha ha you'r so naive
de la hoya first real lost was against the boricua john john molina but they robbed molina out that fight. oscar 2 lost 2 rican.
wow TY!