Finding America: The Arrival of the First Americans (OLD VIDEO)
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Who were the first Americans and how did they arrive in the Americas? The settlement of the Americas is one of the most studied and enigmatic topics in Ancient American history and not without controversy. Find out why this simple question is so puzzling to so many scientists and archaeologists.
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Nearly half an hour long, yet before I knew it the video was over and now I'm left wanting more. This could definitely be a series. Fascinating episode!
Thank you!
@@AncientAmericas
You did an excellent job with the info
Pretty much my favorite channel. I learn so much.
This is such an interesting topic!
I would love to see an entire series on this topic.
There's certainly plenty to talk about!
See "America Before" by Graham Hancock
@@cherylbutler3241 Cool yeah heard of him, is there a specific video or would you recommend the book?
@Derek Jackson how?
@@cherylbutler3241 while I certainly wouldn’t call Hancock a failed novelist given how many followers he has and how rich he’s become off of selling his idea, I’d still call his ideas incorrect.
Hancocks publications are actually lacking much in science. They are published for profit. They can’t divulge sources nor is much of their supposed “research,” testable. Convenient for those wishing to push a narrative for profit.
Most people never consider how globalization and the spread commerce has changed the world. The ideas of Hancock, who believes there was an ancient maritime power that spread knowledge, culture and much more through out the world, fails to see the differences and how that globalization didn’t truly begin until the arrival of Columbus. Why didn’t they spread foods around the world? Or genetic material? Or animals? Or animal husbandry? Or agriculture? Or disease? How about words that would have been exchanged in a sharing of knowledge? What about that they completely disappeared without leaving even a tool behind, while Stone Age people were able to survive and thrive, leaving behind signs of their existence? I know, they sank beneath the waves? A sea faring people, who were across the globe, yet all died off and apparently destroyed their material culture before doing so? Why wouldn’t they sail up river as well? His argument that their sites are all under water makes one wonder why stick to the shores? If they practiced agriculture and animal husbandry, why do paleobotanists nor biologists not find evidence of any genetic alterations as a result of people selecting plants and animals for beneficial traits? So many things to ponder
Here in “Canada” the term First Nations is used quite often. I’m not indigenous, but from what I understand this term is pretty well accepted
It makes the most sense.
Native American is mostly used outside of US so ignore him when he says it’s not. He got it completely wrong
indeed! it is how I prefer to be referred to as well.
The first time we visited Canada from the u s, we heard the term first people’s and immediately thought it conveyed respect as well as needed no translation. I believe it is the official descriptor in Canada. Nice
Dude....this is an amazing channel... This video's explanation of the complicated issue of the name native peoples go by/are referred to as, was a fantastic and perfect way to introduce the topic, by pointing out that native peoples' own history has been robbed from them and degraded by being basically called all sorts of names that have nothing to do with them/their language/their culture. And I appreciate immensely that in other video's you do the same, making note that the names of cultures/places didn't come from the peoples themselves and explaining where it did come from.
Thank you!
There were likely several groups that entered the Americas over a long timeline. It is a mistake to assume only one group came here.
Yes, you are correct. Other groups did enter into the americas at different times. This episode is just focused on the initial migration though. We'll discuss later migrations in future episodes.
I must agree
@@AncientAmericas I'm so excited.
@@dffndjdjd how passive aggressive! The author of the channel never implied that experts in the field are "dumber" or anything like it
I got the book of records man's records illumadummie records want a copy it's digital I send it to you if want
We were fortunate enough to visit New Zealand and spent a couple days at their National Museum. The Maori and other Polynesian cultures were so skilled in open ocean navigation that they could tell the distance from land by the pattern of waves hitting their canoes. They had woven stick "maps" with differently bent twigs to compare with the wave patterns. Absolutely amazing.
Polynesian migration is so fascinating! I actually once did a presentation (not on TH-cam) on it and I loved researching it. I'd like to do a video at some point about Polynesian-American contact at some point because there is very good evidence that it occurred before Columbus (but only in the last 1000 years.)
Excellent video!! Quick comment - I believe that homo sapiens moved here and there depending upon the abundance of prey animals and eatable vegetation etc. They never thought, "Oh, we're leaving a certain continent etc." such as moving from Siberia into North America - or leaving Africa... As far the the Polynesians etc. I believe they made a conscience decision to go elsewhere due to their knowledge of currents and wave patterns. What courage they had! I'm a fan of the Coastal Route for at least part of the migration to the Americans.
Well this is officially one of the best channels on TH-cam. Absolutely freaking fascinating you’re up there with Fall of Civilizations in my mind
Thank you! It's very flattering to be compared with the fall of civilizations podcast. Those episodes are masterpieces.
In college, for a political philosophy class I had to read Stephen Ambrose’s (also wrote Band of Brothers) famous 1996 book, “Undaunted Courage” detailing how Thomas Jefferson became great friends with Meriwether Lewis, and how the two decided to explore the North American continent on behalf of the newly formed country.
Before Jefferson sent off what’s now the famous ‘Lewis and Clark Expedition’, the book detailed Jefferson’s beliefs he relayed to Lewis on the Native American’s origins on the continent and it’s fascinating, he for all his brilliance in the natural sciences and comprehensive view of history, absolutely was convinced Natives were also the “lost children of Israel”. You were spot on in this video saying that theory was all the rage. He failed spectacularly in preparing Lewis and Clark for a realistic view of each tribe’s temperament and core values & motivations.
Thought that was a fascinating read. Sad ending to Lewis’ life.
Coastal migration theory is much more likely than overland.
I personally think so too but who knows?
More and more evidence is leading that way. The aforementioned stemmed points were also found in Hokkaido, Japan.
Also the similar pottery in Valdivia, Ecuador and C2 ydna among the Kichwa and Waorani people.
Yes. Island hopping from Siberia, especially when sea level is low enough to erase the Bering sea, is not a stretch at all. Even from Japan via Siberia.
Some of them likely island hopped coming from Europe. They could do stopovers in Faroe Islands, Iceland, and Greenland.
Could they have entered to the americas through the aleutian islands? Is there any archeological evidence in those islands?
You’re absolutely amazing. I legit wondered “oh what does BP mean?” And you answered immediately.
I love how you don’t assume that we’re already knowledgeable about this topic.
Thanks a lot, you’re def going places.
You're too kind! I didn't know any of this stuff a few years ago so I know what it's like learning all this for the first time. I try to keep things as accessible as possible.
@@AncientAmericas some constructive criticism on that point. While it was great of you to point out how to figure out the time, I think it would be better if you presented it in the time phrasing most people know. If people are doing math to figure out what the time is, they're not listening to what you're saying and miss out on that information. Very good and informative. Look forward to listening to more from you.
@@doop6769 I appreciate the criticism. I'm honestly torn on this because part of me does want to make the material as easy to consume as possible but the other part of me wants to stay true to the scholarly literature that uses BP in these situations in case people want to do more research on their own. At the end of the day, it's a trade off. Thanks for the input and feedback!
@@AncientAmericas fair enough. I'm just thinking if you're trying to reach out to a larger audience. You could still explain the time, just the opposite way. It breaks the fluidity in listening when you have to do math. Someone who is sitting doing research, has the time to do the addition. Just my thoughts. But then, I don't have an educational channel either. Lol. I love this stuff so keep it up.
@@AncientAmericas So let me get this straight, 13,500 BP = roughly 11,500 BCe... and that date is about the time all the mega fauna were wiped out in North America and around the world. The Mammoths, Sabre Tooths, Short Faced Bear and Giant Sloth, ect went extinct...presumably due to comet strikes to the North American Ice Shelf, according to geological evidence, which led to the Younger Dryas period, also called the Mini Ice Age. This is about the time Gobleki Tepe was constructed, coming off a global cataclysm. I think Gobleki Tepe was in use from 11,000 BC to 7000 BC, but I could be off a bit, because these academics keep changing the timeline denotations.
I think a simple solution to clarify the timelines in peoples minds, since this is all about information exchange and learning, would be to give both the BP and BC dates for a given subject, to provide context and cross reference with other known archaeological and historical events. Academia, if they can make something complicated they will.
I remember as a kid in the early 90s specifically asking my history teacher if it was possible that people were in the americas for longer than the currently accepted date and we just haven’t found the evidence. The teacher told me no obviously not and then the class laughed at me lol. That’s why I always challenge people who are so stuck on what the currently accepted truth is. Every couple decades we look back and laugh at what used to be “the truth” only a couple decades ago.
Exactly! The picture is continually changing and this video is already outdated thanks to the white sands footprints.
I remember when I was in 3rd grade (back in the 1950s) and was looking at a globe. I told the teacher that Europe/Africa and North/South America looked like they all "fit together" like they used to be connected. She -- and subsequently the whole class -- got a huge laugh out of it and I learned to STFU about such ridiculous notions.
Well...I only made it through the 8th grade. I did, however go on to teach Computer Science for 30+ years. While I'm no rocket scientist...a lot of my students were. He he he.
Just sane... :^) Saint
@@eugenesaint1231 you should be able to find that validation for your early statement of South America fitting with Africa etc check out a smaller Earth, or expanding Earth, one of those should show you that not only do the continents fit together on the Atlantic side but they fit together on the Pacific as well so you were dead on at least as far as you went.
This is an example of child abuse by female authority figures. You DID NOT deserve to be laughed at!!!
Hugs and love.
@@eugenesaint1231 that happened to me at about the same time, and we were not alone there were thousands of us.
I love your videos about the Americas. You have an open mind and no agenda. You just talk about facts.
Thank you! I try my best!
I would love to see a several hour version of this honestly. I love this shit.
Thank you!
Then you would also love the fossilized shit
All my relatives in northern alberta and saskatchewan speak dene.
My buddy Denny doesn't even speak Dene' 😅😆✌️
The Dene were the last group to arrive from Asia. Their language is considered to be related to Chinese.
Nice
@Jesse Marcel exactly. One of the issues I have with some of these videos from different sources, is they keep using the word Theory. The word theory is so much implicating a vast knowledge of I don't know LOL. I like facts. If it's not facts, then to me it's just guessing. Definitely like your statement :-)
@@70stunes71 Do you know what "theory" means in science? It is not a synonym of "hypothesis". Theory can be proven, disproven or neither. General relativity is also a "theory", yet try telling physicists it is not true
José de Acosta's Natural and Moral History of the Indies is a tough read, specially for people not used to chronicles, but it is a very amazing text. The way he logically picks apart the various theories of his time so he can arrive to the conclusion of an unknown land bridge is amazing.
Amazing how the dates of the first arrivals keeps getting moved back. I can remember when the dates were only 5,000 years ago. New tech and dna have revolutionized things. Love it!
Thank you.... such an interesting and open minded video!!! Make you feel quite small and insignificant when you consider all the countless people who have lived, loved, worked, fought and then died before us!!
I like the coastal route myself. Various Inits & Siberian peoples have lived handily in harsh Arctic regions. Starting there and traveling along the coast would be easy. At least until other people moved in a blocked your southern progress.
Yakuts of Siberia are in my wifes DNA, also Neanderthal.
The use of boats of some kind is now even believed to have been used by our predecessors,eg Neanderthals.
I am 100% for this migration as well. Mostly because I grew up in the Chimikuan and Salish culture. Coastal Salish and Chimikuan were masters of our coasts from Alaska down to Northern California. Our name literally means, "sea people". This is why we have totem poles. They were meant to stand tall and direct water traffic in our vast and complicated water ways. Those totems resemble quite a few tiki totems. We had massive boats like some Polynesians eventually that we used for whale hunting. Quileute, Makah and a few more tribes still celebrate "Whaling days". It's pivotal to our peoples. We have very old words for these marine life and legends of HUGE turtles when there is no sea turtles in the PNW now. It's not hard for me to imagine that we could have followed whale routes. Some Orca pods have routes that are very close to land. Idk...
I do also know that my peoples closest genetic link out of the America's are paleo-Siberians.
Our languages are so damn unique too. Some that have no contemporary.
I have recently found your channel and I love it! I am kind of aware of the Precolumbian America since I have read many books concerning this topic but I'm not a pro and I'm always delighted to see and hear e.g. about new discoveries, theories or just the good old topics because there's always something interesting in it! :-)
Thank you!
I'm going to binge watch your entire channel at this point.
A recent interpretation of a petroglyph in Australia showing a canoe or boat dating to 50,000 BCE not only is the first known depiction of a boat but the boat as shown has a high curved bow very much like the Polynesian ocean-going canoe!
Polynesians didn't exist that long ago! Obviously, other people before them also used canoes
@@KateeAngel yup ancestor of polynesia the proto-austronesia still in taiwan and southern china at that time
@@KateeAngel He didn't say they did, only that the rock depiction was "very much like" the bow of the Polynesian canoe we are familiar with today. What people made the the pictured boat is anybody's guess.
@Kazumaf context,we talking about Polynesia
The Lakota share a lot of language similarities to some Inuit tribes in and around Alaska. I always thought that was kinda neat
"inuit" are the eskimos of canada and greenland - the eskimo in alaska call themselves "yupik" or "innupiaq" - to call them "inuit" would be calling them by another name - like calling a canadian "american" - you know they love that
@@johneyon5257 They hate the name Eskimo even more. It was a pejorative exonym used by their Native enemies meaning “eaters of raw meat.” It’s like calling all Asians “Orientals” or Chinese.
The Dene language of the Northwest Territories in Canada is very closely related to Navaho.
@@daron6616 would frost back be considered pejorative?
@@johneyon5257 . Like calling the Savior by a Greek word when the truth is He came as a Hebrew speaking Hebrew to Hebrews, and His Father's name is a Hebrew name.
The Most High Almighty Creator's name is Yehovah.
His Son the Savior's name is a Hebrew name.
Yeshua.
HalleluYah!!
I favour the coastal migratian hypothis as this could explain several periods of migration. Great video!
I agree the first settlement came by boat. But when your talking thousands of years, to say it's the only way they came would be unlikely.
Need more content on this!!! Super awesome! I share this video every opportunity I get
Thank you!
I just found your channel. Very well done, unbiased, and informative. Thanks for all the time and effort you put into it!
Thank you!
I favor the idea of several migrations, starting before that glacial period. It would always be a one-way trip, as these were hunter-gatherers, and access to hunting grounds was probably very competitive. The winners got to stay. The losers had to leave forever. And the amount of such people a given amount of land could sustain probably varied greatly over the centuries. At their low points, more people would have to leave.
probably, in my opinion the first one of those migrations was when humans reached hueyatlaco 250,000 years ago
I'm going with non stop migration. I think all peoples made it over until I hear otherwise. So far indigenous Asiatic and Polynesian are checked off. Across Atlantic Ice says Europeans did so. I'm betting evidence of Middle Eastern and African travelers is out there.
@@clarencebeeks2787 You must stop this white men where here first BS 😑😐😑
@@clarencebeeks2787 the DNA trail is pretty solid. There are several ancient human fossils of the Americas first inhabitants. The first footprints r from Asia, Eurasia, some came by water, some from Siberia by land. ALL ancient ppl leave footprints. The Vikings came in a small group and left, they left footprints. That's about it until AFTER the ships of horror came, after that, lots of diversity. It's documented on paper and DNA trail.
Really, really excellent video. Like, surprisingly high-quality, no fluff, very succinct, no remarks on contemporary politics, thank you.
Thank you!
And, it’s entirely possible for several of the theories to be viable, either as (1) separate migrations, (2) separate migrations that merged, (3) single migrations that split and later merged with others or (4) rejoined with their original group. Several migrations, or (5) dribble along group migrations are all viable, and it seems to me that several groups makes a lot more sense than a single group. Actually, only one group seems much less likely.
Genetics, joined with languages, seem to be the best research tools today. There are probably descendants living in the Americas with ties back to old homelands. THAT seems a rich source of research to me. In the future, more techniques will probably emerge.
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At minute 19:18 you'll notice a migration route by Sea. I can picture people in boats following seals, etc. along the coastline west and South.
Check some videos on First Americans and the Channel Islands.
Seems the kelp forests were a main staple in food and in construction, and they wrapped around from Asia to NA.
Seals + Kelp + flightless ducks + seabird eggs. Not the worst food choices.
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Don't talk about theories that people in the field talk about! That's a science no no.
@@dffndjdjd because all sea people sites are under hundred meters of water maybe?
@@dffndjdjd Migration by boat would be far easier and more likely than walking. Simply follow the coastline. Much of the evidence for coastal migration is now under water.
Why can’t most of the migration theories be right? People came to America before the glacier, following the coast after the glacier formed, and after the glacier opened up. It would explain the diversity of languages.
That very well could be the case!
The diversity of tribes and languages requiring many millenia of evolution point to a pre-Mammoth Steppe hypothesis migration -- +56,000 BP
Very interesting video. Hopefully as new evidence becomes available we can derive a conclusive theory of how and when the Americas were populated. Once again thank you for the video
You're welcome!
what a puzzling web of questions and evidence! truly fascinating stuff
Those first one probably thought “ I wonder if there’s good hunting over there”
Eh, you're probably right.
And -- since Siberia and North America were one giant continent -- they didn't even know they were entering the "New World".
not really i just liked walking and there was tons of insects to eat. i found that killing larger animals attracted other large animals so i rarely did that. most of the time animals left me alone cause they didn't think of me as food. after all i was the first human they had ever seen for 13,157 years. i do miss the big cat.
The first Americans most likely lived along the coasts when sea levels were lower. The bodies of the dead are under water
Glaciation only extended to present day Missouri and Tennessee. So lands south of there could've been populated during the last glaciation. I heard that Mohawk culture has uncovered archaeological evidence that dates back over a 100,000 years since they inhabited the area in Canada BEFORE the last glaciation which occured some 20,000 years ago. An attempt to present a false narrative concerning migrations timelines is permeating our historical accounts. Why can't the historians simply take the words the "oral traditions" give that cover hundreds of thousands of years? The answer is,....because they keep ending up in black cultures thousands of years old.
@@dffndjdjd that theory already been debunked too. Try again
@@raymondgaines4315 how much weed do you smoke?
@@raymondgaines4315 don't mind the children, people want to ignore that our brains and bodies have been anatomically unchanged since 250,000 (save some hight changes) yet we didn't learn to do anything but not doe untill 10000 BCE? Bullshit, you keep on looking for the truth dude, cuz everyone else is content to live in lala land, where the rules are made up and the points don't matter.
Never, AL RACES SETTLED BY RIVERS AND LAGOONS. WE NEEED FRESH Water and fertile water. its so obvious.
Thank you for making this video- I've watched it three times today... very well done, informative and entertaining.
You're welcome!
@@AncientAmericas You have a cool voice too. =)
@@onetransatmiddleage1966 glad you think so because I can't stand the sound of it.
@@AncientAmericas Gotcha- I think most people don't like the way they sound- you are not alone. I think you sound awesome. =)
@@onetransatmiddleage1966 thank you!
So excited to hear about these latest theories of the earliest Americans... living on the west coast of Canada it makes sooooo much sense.
I like the closing inviting us to imagine them. Nice video
Very good, humble and honest presentation.
Thank you!
This was great, but I love that every once in a while you'll see a comment that was written by a person who read the title and wrote a comment before watching the video or looking at the thumbnail. But I can't complain because the engagement might have prompted TH-cam to recommend this channel to me, and it's good stuff.
Thank you!
The Kelp Highway has a lot to recommend it. I really enjoy the series. Well done!
Thank you!
I love how your channel is a LOT less eurocentric than most of the other sources I've found.
Thank you! We prefer Amerocentrism round these parts.
@@AncientAmericas As it should be.
I call it whitewashed.
I'd give just the delivery of this video a thumbs up. And then the content comes bam! Good stuff !!
And I give this comment a thumbs up!
My wife and I volunteer at Mesa Verde NP and part of our fascination with the park is how the thinking has evolved just in the 42 years I have lived in the region. The studies being done and the evidence being found keeps the theories fluid. Thanks for your research. Are you aware of the Mammoth kill found in the Chesapeake region with European spear points that is fairly new? Please keep this moving forward. I’m a captive.
Thank you. I was not aware of that! Do you remember the name of the site or have an article about it?
@@AncientAmericas “Rethinking the First Americans” by Wilson “Dub” Crook on You Tube.
"Across Atlantic Ice" by Dennis Stanford and Bruce Bradley discusses the relic (called Cinmar laurel leaf biface). It is 188 mm long and 55mm wide, found off the Virginia coast 100 km, and in 75 meters of water. It was not necessarily a kill site, but it was dredged up in 1970 with a mastodon tooth and bones dated to 23,000 BP. The material came from a rhyolite deposit at the MD/PA near Emmitsburg. On a side note, Virginia has at least 3 pre-Clovis sites known.
@@steveparker8785 Read "Across Atlantic Ice" by Dennis Stanford and Bruce Bradley.
@@AncientAmericas see my comments below! There is much info on that Paleo relic and much more on paleo Indians in the reference I noted.
I just found this channel, I sat all weekend seeing the videos and doing some side research on related topics. I would like to suggest making a small episode about the lost city of Colombia "Ciudad Perdida" [800CE-until the late 14th century] and Tairona tribe. Ciudad Perdida was probably the region's political and manufacturing center on the Buritaca River and may have housed 2,000-8,000 individuals. Interesting information can be found on the documentary about Kogi, "From the Heart of the World The Elder Brother's Warning", made 1990. According to the Kogi people, some of the last preserved indigenous descendants of the Tairona, The Tairona lived for thousands of years, up until the age of the conquistadors. The story of Kogi is also very interesting, how they managed to live secretly from the outside world in the mountains of Sierra Nevada de Santa Marta, which they found refuge when conquistadors came, and continue to live up to this day preserving their culture intact.
Thank you! I'll have to check that out.
It is amazing how cleverly it was built into deep jungle with heavy rainfall, with great hydraulic knowledge of how to drain water out and remains still there after centuries.
I am from California
Have you heard or studied the Chumash people who live here on the west coast. They has ancestral sea capable boats called a Tomol. The thumbnail for this video is one and you showed it a few times while explaining the Coastal Migration Theory 🤙🏽
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Fantastic job.. Well done!!!
As a European I'm really fascinated on how fast Homo Sapiens conquered the world and how rapid they migrate from North to South America..
I congratulate you your presentation was very comprehensive..!! 👏👏
Thank you!
Rapidly you say?.....But if the Earth is 4.5 billion years old then what's so rapid about an immigration that occured in the last 3,000 years? Do you realize how much time 3,000 subtracted from 4.5 billion is?.....simple! 4.5 billion.
@@raymondgaines4315 isn't that exactly the proof that it is rapid?
Thanks for explaining things so clearly and succinctly.
You're welcome!
Once again, you do a great job collecting valuable information in every video. Thanks for research all this spread knowledge.
Btw, It would of be a good addition to the video the findings in México in recent years, like the oldest human remains found so far in the Américas inside the Sac Aktun System near Tulum.
Thanks bro
Thank you. Someday, I'd like to do a follow up to this episode because as time has gone by, I've realized that there's stuff I missed.
My family is from Mexico City and Cuentepec, Morelos Mexico. When i took my DNA test i was shocked asf seeing that i have DNA matches up in the far north, from Barrow Alaska, Winnipeg Canada, Michigan, Arizona, New Mexico and Texas down to Mexico and Guatemala. I got 94% Native American, 2% Irish,1% Spanish, 3% Italian. My mother got 97% Native American.
Nobody on the East Coast(US)?
@@godofthisshit i got some matches on the east coast but they're all due to recent Mexican migration. The matches that i got from Alaska, Canada, Michigan and Arizona and some from Oklahoma are all members of federally recognized tribes. Inupiaq, Ojibway, White Mountain Apache, Navajo and Ute of Oklahoma. My haplogroup is A2 which is mostly found in Athabascan tribes. How the hell my family migrate down to central Mexico, who knows. Both of my grandmothers spoke Nahuatl. I do know the Aztecs migrated across North America for hundreds of years until their god Huitzilopochtli told them to settle in Lake Texcoco and so they founded the great city of Tenochtitlan.
very cool!
I always joke with my friends from Michigan that it was really North Michoacan all along! LOL
don't be surprised if your DNA profile is updated and the results much closer to what you expected - my profile changed significantly - so much - it almost seems like they sent someone else's profile - except for the presence of some expected groups - that stayed while the weirder groups disappeared
the DNA tests are skewed towards european testing cuz they bought most of the testing early on - other groups - such as asians & american indians are expected to become more refined as more of those people get the test
Humbly thank u for imparting this knowledge to everyone in a concise and engaging manner 👍🏽💯
Thank you!
It's amazing our understanding the topic has become more clear since your video came out, only a year later and now we know there were peoples in the Americas pre-Beringia thanks to some ancient footprint preserved in New Mexico.
what a nice treat. I find myself rewinding the video often because of the boldness of the topic. god bless the exploration of America past, and its proud and righteous peoples
Thank you!
Thanks for making such a concise video. I’m an archaeology major and I’m going to use some of your bib references in one of my finals.
Thank you! I highly recommend getting a copy of the book Paleoamerican Odyssey. It's a FANTASTIC resource.
I found a knife blade and many cobble mortars at a depth of 108 ft just off the "ancient sea cliffs" of San Diego's Point Loma and the site has my name.
This is a topic missing from this story, as controversial as it is.
I'm an undergrad history major and I can't get enough! Excellent content, great graphics and above all extremely engaging. Very excited to see what you put out going forward. Great vid!
Thank you!
Humans every where, even in remote islands. It is interesting to know how it happened.
Great work, keep it up.
Thank you!
One more comment: When I was a boy in the early 60’s I read in H.G. Wells history, “The Outline Of History” ,that the Atlantic Ocean was so great as to preclude migration from Europe. Later in the same work I read that the early Polynesians were navigating the vast distances of the Pacific Ocean as early as 50,000 years ago! From an early age I came to believe that early man not hindered by the ignorance and superstitions of modern man were capable of amazing feats that should not be underestimated.
Columbus found a bell from a Spanish galleon in a hut in the Carribean...storms blew them there and they made it back to Columbus' home island...Santa Palo...Columbus was finally funded by Queen Isabella when he produced a map of what he thought were the outer islands 🏝of India...took the explorers quite a few years before they realized they had actually discovered North and South America not the Orient...indigenous people are called Indians from then on...as from India...lol
Polynesia was settled only 5 k years ago, before that there were only Melanesians, and they settled only some islands very close to New Guinea and Australia
@@dffndjdjd Yeah, the oldest sites are inland because no one is looking at the obvious place where most ancient sites would be. On the original shoreline during the ice age. It is far more likely that the first Americans came over in boats following the coastline.
IMHO, the coastal route seems most probable due to the food. If the ice sheets made more dry land, then more dry coasts were available. The warmer breezes off the ocean toward the coasts may have provided enough land for people to migrate. Simple boats may have been available to get around ice or from island to island and back to mainland shore. That’s my guess. Texas
You may be on to something. Boats of animal skin (like walrus ) over wood frames would work very well, like kayaks.They would be able to paddle down the coast living off the sea life.
Boats (or water craft of some kind) have been around a long time. There is some evidence of Neanderthal presence on Cyprus. And with the topography of the Mediterranean Basin they sure didn't walk there. There is also some evidence of possibly Homo Erectus in the Phillippines. It may have been possible to walk from Borneo to either Mindanao along the arc of islands that extend between the two or from Borneo via Palawan. But there's a stretch of deep water between Palawan and Mindaro. Another possible route is from Sulawesi along but it features a number of deep water gaps. Several of them fairly long.
A new paper studying ancient DNA from the Caribbean, posted this week on bioRxiv, explains that the Caribbean has one of the most culturally diverse mixes of human beings on the planet, but it was one of the last places in the Americas to be occupied by people between 8000 and 5000 years ago. Where these early migrants came from has always been a mystery until this study of ancient DNA probed into the deep history of the Caribbean and the story discovered by the researchers is one of “migration and cultural mingling” revealing how descendants of the first inhabitants interacted with new waves of migrants who arrived about 2800 years ago.
This is really a well-done series of presentations; well done, oh mysterious amateur pre-historian!!
One thing that needs to be remembered when raising this kind of question is that we're really asking two questions, which may or may not have a common answer. The two questions are: 1) who were the first hominids to visit and reside in the western hemisphere; and 2) who were the ancestors of the later surviving and flourishing western hemisphere populations. As we have come to realize when looking into the similar "first out of Africa" question, the two sub-questions need not have the same answer. Indeed, it's possible that there were many independent routes of the "first people in America", and many first projects may have failed immediately, survived for a while before dying out, and so forth. Archaeology by itself may not be able to distinguish populations doomed to dying out and populations ancestral to modern indigenous groups. Ancient DNA, however, as it may be recovered in the future, can help us learn more about the likelihood of other, non-beringian colonization attempts at whatever time in pre-history may be determined. As things stand, though, the answer to question #2 above seems much clearer: DNA evidence, linguistic evidence, archaeological evidence, and reasonable assumptions about what it would take for people to get to the Western Hemisphere from the source of their DNA and language indicate ever more compellingly that the "kelp route" must have been the path of at least the main waves of those people whose descendants were finally successful in populated the Western Hemisphere.
There are artifacts at the Pedra Furada site in Northern Brazil that date back 48,000 years ago. It's probably the case that there were many groups that made their way to the Americas at different times; and as you said, some of those groups may have died out.
I’d be ok with multiple episodes for this
This is something I'd like to revisit in the future. Maybe someday
The likeliness of the americas being populated only by crossing this icey landbridge is so much harder to grasp than just accepting the fact that ship builders have existed all throughout the world for thousands of years, and people have been arriving, whether it was by choice or accident, but that they've been arriving at different points in time is so much easier to accept.
Great summary - lots to research!
Thank you!
For an amateur in the area, you are very well informed. Amazing video !
Recently, cave paintings have also been found on plateaus in the Colombian Amazon dated some 20 milennia ago. There is much older evidence for campfires in hinterland of Brazil, but there is still no consensus as to whether such campfires are the result of human activity, or whether they are the result of natural fire from lightnings.
Interesting. Do you know how they dated those paintings? Was there other material at the site?
@@AncientAmericas look into toca da tira peia in brazil for possible dating back to 22000 years ago. Also see “genetic evidence of two foundating populations of the americas” for possible australasian dna in this earlier brazilian population.
THANK YOU SOOOOO MUCH!!! I'm so sick of the "Clovis First" theory I can't even say! I'm glad that it's fading away
@@dffndjdjd I dunno. Every history of the Americas I read back in the 70's, every NOVA I saw about the ancient archeology of the Americas, and every article in Scientific American I read about this topic said "Clovis Clovis Clovis". Ditto the textbooks.
Science is a human activity. Scientists are human. Yes yes yes. I've heard that these are "just theories" a "things change with new observations" etc etc. But humans are attached to their ideas. Often so much so, that they reject new information, or discount it.
At any rate, I'm glad that that's changing at least in this arena.
@@johnmanno2052 well, popular explanation, including books, documentaries etc. always oversimplified a lot. Even press releases from universities can be inaccurate. I have seen it myself in my own field
@@KateeAngel Interesting. I certainly understand that. And it's disappointing. However, one also does hear about various political issues in the sciences that get in the way of research. For example, Robert Bakker in the 80s had a terrible time, because he promoted the idea that dinosaurs were warm blooded. And many of the people who excavated pre Clovis sites had to deal with a great amount of criticism and resistance to their findings.
Please don't think I'm saying that science is nonsense, because it's not. However, I do think that scientists are just as human as anyone else.
@@dffndjdjd WHOA!!! I had absolutely no idea about H. Naledi and its anatomical issues! Given everything I've seen about it, including lectures, TED talks, etc, I had imagined it was another "side branch" of Homo, NOT Australopithecus. Very very interesting information. That changes quite a lot of my perspectives on Naledi. Though I still think the whole burial thing is very odd.
I guess I wonder how one differentiates between a "real scientist" and a "scientific showman". Or a "real scientist" and a "scientific curmudgeon". Ernst Mach did not accept atoms, for example, because they could not be observed. Was Mach not a "real scientist" then? Or how about all those geologists who rejected tectonic plates, because of some very cogent objections to the theory. Were they all "curmudgeons"?
In my opinion, there are various kinds of knowledge with varying levels of certainty. And, unfortunately, that means that there's enough ambiguity in our knowledge in certain arenas of science that there's enough doubt that a consensus is always difficult, and an absolute conclusion completely impossible. This tends to engage other, less rational, sides of our human nature, and the issues get ever more muddled.
Definitely coastal migration. It's the only one that truly makes sense, and it's the most efficient in terms of energy for a population of people to move around and gain ground for food and growing their tribes.
I like the Mammoth Steppe hypothesis. More and more dates are being pushed back, and an earlier ice free corridor (30,000 BP) seems to fit better with the dates of these sites.
It is an interesting theory.
I liked your intro,didn't ruffle any feathers.Native American Indian Of the Iroquois People.
Like early homosapien evolutionary theory, which the pendulum of science is swinging away from both extremes into a nuanced multiregionalism and multi-migration position; I think the populating of America will be explained in a similar manner.
I agree, although the genetics strongly point to a single or (at least) main ancestor group. I can imagine how population pressures might encourage some of the more adventurous to head off to find new lands-even if contact was later broken, there might have been an oral tradition of these sons and daughters who went east and south, and then others might follow when there was again population pressures.
Thank you, an excellent and explanatory video!
You're welcome!
Nice video! There's also oral history, which is VERY unreliable, but has been used historically (and to a lesser extent, today) to explain the origins of the First Americans
Take a pack weighing 60lbs. Put it on your back and carry it a mile. Using a calorie counter compare putting that same weight in a small sail boat and travel a mile. Shore lines have food, fuel and distinct features to help keep on tract. Going from river to river would provide fresh water and places to camp. Equally important was the ability to back track to inform the source population of exploration expedition's findings, making exploring new places efficient and lowering the risk factor to the group in finding new lands.
You are correct but remember that a glacier covered shoreline makes fresh water and landing much more difficult. Not impossible by any means but not easy.
@@AncientAmericas ice is a supply of fresh water
That is so crazy, I have a coprolite that I found when I was younger, somewhere out towards Paisley or Fossil, Oregon. Not sure where since it was back in 1988 or 89. But I was honestly not aware that Paisley was a Clovis site!
Now I want to go back for pictures. Maybe see if they have a museum.
I do not live too far up the road.
I loved this presentation. Well done!
Thank you!
A lot of Natives form the US don’t get offended by the term “Indian” because its not used as a derogatory term like it is used in some Latin American countries like Mexico where many of us Indigenous peoples are referred to as “Indios” in a derogatory manner.
I got a kick when a geneticist showed a group of Navajo adults photos of northern Mongolians genetics hinted they were related to.
One man said, "Hey this one guy in front of this little delivery truck, he looks like my cousin Ed over in Sante Fe. Ed drives a delivery truck too.
The genetics links them not pictures!
@Ricky Barber
No as this is YT! The comment does indicate humor as much as it’s critical of genetic science. It’s vague to say the least.
Still if the best contribution you have to this discourse is a question about a joke it says a great deal about your educational background.
@@DrSteveJ-gd3gn still even genetics doesn’t prove anything but inter-relations between two completely different people. To say the least about someone’s educational background as a put down really puts into Perspective how much of a Diva Punk you really are..aside from that, that only 13 thousand years ago when “Mongolians” did arrive. Though there was already an Indigenous people culture here. The land bridge and kelp beds is just a theory not fact. Indigenous peoples are there own people dna studies provide that fact. 9RA ya fool.
The Dene people, which the Navaho are a part of, were the last group to immigrate from Asia. Their language is considered to be related to Chinese.
Haaaaaa!
While I don't consider the Solutrian hypothesis to be very likely, I think many unfairly dismiss it. Many discard it as impossible based on half hearted arguments. This was the case in my university where only a strawman of the hypothesis was presented and argued against and then it was implied that only bad people with bad intentions would support that hypothesis. Luckily I had already learned about the hypothesis and what it actually entailed. I think that sort of thing does a great disservice to finding out the truth about the past
I'm personally not a fan of the hypothesis. I think that there would be much stronger evidence if it were true. That said, I think it's fine to entertain and speculate on the idea as long as you aren't trying to incorporate it into some white supremacy nonsense, which I'm sure you aren't but some people unfortunately do.
That's liberal influence on education. The term for it is "Lysenkoism" and it's been growing in America for decades. Now anything that contradicts the global warming hypothesis or that might possibly offend the Alphabet People is actively suppressed.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 What if the Solutreans took the Columbus route to the Americas and the book No Stone Unturned in1958 brought up the Solutreans and I found out about that book from the book They All Discovered America in 1963.
@@nonyadamnbusiness9887 get a life.
According to professor William W. Crook 20% of Native Americans in the US and Canada have some European DNA. Nearly all of them in Eastern Canada have some.
Thank you. very informative
You're welcome!
There's a site on the Pacific Coast of Canada that has been preserved (it is believed) for around 14,000 years due to isostatic rebound.
Awesome.
Cool! Do you remember the name of the site?
@@AncientAmericas Calvert Island, BC Canada.
Also see the paper Archaeology and Sea Level Change on the British Columbia Coast by Mackie 2018
Coastal migration was the theory championed by my archaeology professor. She also mentioned the Beringia standstill. I think she may have mentioned the split between the two branches of Beringia Amerindians being due to a later group who eventually DID traverse the new land passageway post-LGM, but I might have just dreamed that. Regardless, I remember her mentioning the split at the very least. I should dig up my class notes from two years ago and flip through them
If the 30,000+ years old remains of Monte Verde are proven to be legitimate, the Coastal Migration theory is the most likely correct one.
@@TheNachoOne Except that the inland route was open before the LGM at 22,000. It was closed from 22,000 to 13,500. The kelp highway was open continually, it seems.
to be clear I like the theory you mention. Very interesting.
Ancient Americas: (bored in class)
Teacher: I want all of you to write an informative essay.
Ancient Americas: (perks up)
Haha! You're not too far off the mark.
Great video. Thanks
You're welcome!
On the terminology, the designation “native American” has a major problem not mentioned here. Anyone born in the United States is considered legally to be a “native-born American”. That makes even me, of Irish-Italian heritage (like a zillion other Americans) born in Michigan, therefore a “Native American”. American Indian is best since it is widely understood and it being a misnomer is hardly unusual. “German” is something from Julius Caesar and it’s unclear where he got it, certainly not what they call themselves. Many of the tribal names used today are also exonyms, some not so benign as “Indian”. The term “Apache” actually means “enemy”, and the name “Sioux” means “little snakes” in one attestation.
Are you familiar with the paleo burial at warm mineral Springs in Florida
You mispronounced Oregon (laugh) yet all-in-all, this is an excellent presentation on your part. I enjoyed it and learned from it, thus subscribing. And yes, the coastal migration theory sits well with me. Thx.
Studying Archaeology in the early 90s, I was taught that no one was here until the glaciers cleared. The dated sites that seemingly disagreed with the theory we're completely discounted. It seemed obvious to me that the people who made it to south America first must have been a seafaring culture, and the sites to prove it were out along the continental shelf. Loved the video, and reading through the comments.
Thank you!
fascinating topic, great video
Thank you!
Have you seen anything on pre-Clovis arrowheads found here in the Americas which are similar to those from Southern France and north Spain. Think one of them as Eastern or Western I forget.
I've always thought the tiny boat theory made the most sense
@@dffndjdjd The oldest sites that we know of are far inland. As was mentioned in the video, rising sea levels after the last glacial maximum would have obliterated evidence of Paleo coastal dwellers, which is probably where most settled while traveling along the coasts of north and south America.
No they swam from Australia using the Australian crawl.
Great way to put it
Interested about what was,
Thanks for your teaching
Thank you, very well done, your enthusiasm is noted in the telling. I have always believed that the first nations arrived way before 13k years ago. My logic; the first Australians arrived on their large island 30-60k years ago so why couldn't the first Americans accomplished what the Australians did. I must say and I'm biased, I have learned through DNA that my Haplo-group C1b2 was the Haplo-group group of 2 infants found in Alaska dated back at least 13k years ago! I take great pride in that fact! My DNA has been in America for thousands of years and I am decendant of the first Americans. Thank you again, keep up the great work! Knowledge is king!
You're welcome!
first australians arrived there at least 65,000 years ago
This channel is so professional. Can't wait to see what's next
We will have a new video before the month is out!
Truly educational! Thank you!
@@MarcoMalfario thanks!
Thank you for this excellent presentation!
You're welcome!
I saw a video about the Solutran migration I thought was interesting. They sailed in small boats along the edge of the ice sheet, hunting and fishing as they went. Perhaps your Pacific Coast group did something similar.
Mummies found in the Atacama desert in Ecuador show a very rare strain of leucemia that is prevelant in a southern Japanese island. The mummies are older than 3k years old.
Nothing like the Clovis or Folsom points have ever been found anywhere in Asia.
The Chumash people of coastal California made similar boats, and fishing hooks similar to Polynesian people's. Similar words for house and boat.
There was a people in southern Patagonia who were black, spoke Australian aboriginal dialect, had creation stories of the rainbow serpent. The last 3 survivors of the people were filmed in the early 1900s
The Zuni language is a language group all its own. It is not related to any language group in the world.
Dr Leakey, who made the discovery of "Lucy" worked on a site in southern California. His opinion of the age of the artifacts found was around 250,000 years old.
A site near the mouth of the Amazon river has been dated to around 45,000 years ago
As for the genetics. It is a very small study group used in the study. There were Iver 500 nations when Columbus landed in Hispaniola. .
One must remember any theory that does not fall in line with "accepted" theories is discounted and ridiculed. Science is supposed to be the elimination of possiblities. It seems modern science is about eliminating competing theories.
@ 00:38 "...people of the West Indies." Columbus thought he had reached the _East Indies._
Absolutely fascinating!
Bro I wish you expand your work with global archeology and history, your documentaries are just pure quality
Thanks! I'm focusing on history that's not getting enough attention. There are a lot of other channels covering history and archaeology from the rest of the globe that present it far better than I would.
@@AncientAmericas Fair enough, but I think there is still a ton of history not covered in mainstream, siberia, australia, oceania, whole pacific, I think it would fit well with your american series since they're the closest relatives to the america culture-wise